Conflict of Interest: The Real Waste, Fraud, and Abuse

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Speaker 1 (04:47):
Et cetera, et cetera. We try to break everything down,
so it is monetary Monday. I hope you had a
great weekend. What we're going to talk about is more
than likely we're going to talk about the conflicts of interest.
There's a lot of times that we talk about the waste, fraud,
and abuse, right, waste. Okay, we can all say that

(05:12):
this program that you like and I don't like is wasteful,
or there are some programs that we can all agree
are pretty wasteful in general. But it's the fraud and
abuse that I think we're going to focus on a
little bit here. There's a lot of people that have
conflicts of interest, not just Elon or President Trump or

(05:34):
Pelosi or any of these other people that are in there.
I mean, you can go as far back as you
want to to where people have those conflicts of interest,
and it's what people do with that conflict of interest.
Do they sell their peanut farm, do they disassociate themselves
with certain think tanks, different things like that. So we're

(05:57):
going to go in a little bit of side with it.
I started out with looking at conflicts of interest from
Elon Musk because that seems to be the largest one.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
We've given we've been given a I guess a promise
that if there is a conflict of interest then somebody
would step down or say this you can't. The biggest
one that jumps into our face right now is the
FAA in SpaceX. We'll go into that one, but for

(06:32):
the most part, uh, the FAA, which is now being
I guess defunded a little bit for it. It's odd
that when you say defund this or defund that is
not really what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
They're saying cut this or cut that.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's the Democrats that really say the defunding side, like
defund the police or defund.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
These other things. But that is essentially what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
When you say, hey, I need you to cut this
amount of money, you're not giving them money. You're defunding
them for it. They already had that money and go down.
Now are you defunding because there is waste, fraud, and abuse? Okay,
let's argue about that. Let's see some facts and let's
go so until we actually start seeing some real facts

(07:20):
coming out of this was this was waste and this
over here was something we cleaned up over there. Until
we actually get some real tangible numbers of Okay, this
thing right here was wasteful in this side. Do not
think that Doge is discovering these things. All of the

(07:46):
things that Doge has been talking about, including the operas
and the comic books and all of the other things
that are out there, are in the actual budget plans.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
You can go to the Treasury.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
There's a few places in Congress that you can actually
look and read those bills. Each and every one of
those programs are public information. Now, public information and publicized
information are two separate things, and I think that's where
we're getting confused when we say Doge discovered this or

(08:21):
the us AID was doing that. For the most part,
in almost every single piece that is not classified is
public information.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Now is it publicized information? That's a whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
So really, what Doge and Musque and all of these
other people that are attacking these institutions are.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Publicizing them.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
They have been public information, but they are just publicizing them.
So what we're going to do is we're going to
break down some of these conflict of interest, both from
Musk and see where that goes. Also from politicians that
you already know the names of, and you can probably
guess the types of waste not necessarily waste, but fraud

(09:15):
and abuse of it.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Let's look at it this way.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Is the government needs let's take let's take space.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I guess for it. NASA goes to space.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
NASA needs to buy UH washers and and silicone rings
and steel and all of the other different things that
they need to UH need to actually get things lifted
up off the ground. They don't manufacture them themselves. They
go and they get a contract. Well, if I'm in

(09:46):
charge of the contracts, the first place I'm gonna go
is probably to my own companies. Okay, well, maybe maybe
I don't have companies that actually fit that bill. Okay,
maybe my friends do at that second time, So first
it goes to me, Second it goes to my friends.
And if it doesn't have if I don't have a

(10:08):
friend or myself for those for those things, then I'm
going to make a new friend. And how do you
make a new friend in business, Well, you exchange money,
you start to work and have that working relationship with
each other. And if I'm the guy that's in charge
of the contracts, you can best sure that I'm going
to be making a new friend with whoever I give

(10:28):
this money to.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
UH Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Example for that is the the new one hundred million
dollars or one hundred I'm sorry, a hundred billion dollars
to go to Arizona to actually start making a semiconductor
factory just dropped just recently reading on Forbes. But that's
where you start working into that side, especially.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
The now policy that.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
We're going to start possibly having a crypto, a crypto service,
or a crypto surge where our money, just like Fort
Knox is in gold, they're thinking about putting some money
in crypto and seeing seeing if it moves from theirs.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
But I guess they can gamble with their money.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Or our money as much as they can because they
get to write those laws.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
And that's the thing that conflict of interest for things
too is.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
If I'm a candidate and I want to skirt, if
I want to skirt the having to disclose where my
money comes from and things like that, maybe I just
fire up a mean coin let everybody throw all of their.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Money into it.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's just like if I publicly made my Swiss Bank
account published out there and said.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh, I don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
These are just my routing numbers in case in case
you you needed to know them. Don't send me any money,
don't buy my stuff, don't don't put any money into
those bank accounts.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
But here they are just in case you in case
you were curious, But don't put any money in there.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's pretty legal. It's the same thing with the with
the meme coins as well. I or my goodness, or
let's talk about n f T s in general. There's
no physical thing. There's no physical product. So it's not
like it's not like I own a whole bunch of
hotels that people stay in, foreign foreign agent's or or

(12:35):
anybody else. Maybe I've I just make up a meme coin,
or I make up a couple of weird trading cars
with cards with me and a cowboy hat. I just
put them out there for as many people in the
world to buy. And then I go, well, you know
what it is me is my business. It's it's there,
it's it's it's not a conflict of interest, it's not bribery,
it's not anything like that.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
There, it's it's a it's a free.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Market, Asnancy Pelosi would say. So when we come back
from the break, we will go down a few of
the potential conflicts of interest from Doge and Elon, and
then we'll go into the left and the right for
those conflicts of interest, and hopefully we can start seeing

(13:19):
where people's motivation actually is.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Now. I know you might be one.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Of those people that says, oh, sodar, they do it
out of the kindness of their heart.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh sodar.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
How would why would somebody who's worth hundreds of billions
of dollars whatever come after after me? Yeah, they want
to keep their hundreds of billions of dollars, right, I mean,
it's it's especially because most of those hundreds of billions
of dollars live in the stock market, so you want
to make sure that your company gets the contracts so

(13:50):
that your stock goes up as well. So we'll break
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I just want to preface what we're going to talk
about with the conflicts of interest. Elon Us appointed the
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These dual realities make his role particularly contentious because it's
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It's like if the person who was getting the contracts
got to go in and decide what the contracts are,
how much they are, if they're waste and fraud. I mean,
I doubt that they have found any waste and fraud
on any of those companies Tesla SpaceX, Neulink, Boring Company,

(22:13):
or Starlink. Of course, they're not going to turn around
and say, hey, the Starlinks plan and the I think
seven hundred or so, I'm sorry, nine hundred million dollars
in federal subsidies to expand rule broadband. Of course, that's
not that waste in fraud, especially because we have a

(22:37):
whole nother side trying to do it for the landlines,
for everything.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
So the issue is is.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
People are willfully looking the other way.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
We can look at.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
These conflicts of interest, but once you see them and
you don't say anything about them, you're looking the other direction.
But that's to be fair, there's a lot of people
that either don't know that it's a conflict of interest
or frankly, don't care that it's a conflict of interest,
whether that's because they're wearing the same jersey or because

(23:14):
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dollars that Tesla has gotten, fifteen billion dollars that SpaceX
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more money from the FAA, which is being regulated by DOGE.

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If that's not a conflict of interest, I don't know
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Speaker 2 (28:54):
I am looking through my notes.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I apologize on that Great Depression side of things. Median
house income in the Great Depression was actually forty.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Two thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
The eighty was me taking two people's incomes because this
is household incomes that are at that point. Household median
income right now as as far as twenty twenty goes,
that is sitting at seventy thousand, but it takes two
people to make that seventy thousand. So do with that

(29:30):
number of what you wish. But if two people were working,
which is kind of unlikely in the Great Depression, considering
there was like one out of every four people were unemployed,
which we're not at yet, but if you look at
the numbers that are here, if two people were to

(29:53):
have a job in the Great Depression, they would be
making more money than the two people that work now.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Because of the household income it's part of my.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
This generation works twice as hard as the previous generations,
and I'll just get that for you with math, I
I can figure that out about how this generation works
twice as hard. Thanks for being here, Thanks for being
a part of the show. I just wanted to get
those numbers out to you, and I'll probably work on

(30:30):
I'll probably work on something like that. There's a lot
of people that are I don't know. I don't want
to necessarily say fear mongering or anything like.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
That, but we're pretty close.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
To the levels that things were in the old Great
Depression number one. So we'll we'll end up with Great
Depression number two, and then maybe World War three will
pull us out of it, just like we did with
the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
But I don't know. I'm I I hate it. I
don't like the.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Military industrial complex. I don't like that the major export
of the United States is war. It just I don't
like it. I'm not a big fan of it. Truman
was absolutely right to warn us all about it. So
we'll see. We'll see where it ends up on that
side of things. So what we're going to do is
we're going to continue to talk about conflicts of interest.

(31:29):
We talk about hey, hankers log Over there, That is
a city councilman, Steve Thorn, driving past on that honkers log.
I'll make sure I do a little tally mark on
him over here. My goodness, three billion honkers logs man,
he must drive past all quite a bit. Anyway, Let's
just talk a little bit about conflict of interest. And

(31:51):
part of conflict of interest is if you're in charge
of things, right. It's like if you're in charge of
the birthday parties at the office and you want to
make sure that everybody kind of gets the same stuff.
But you turn around and go, oh, wait a minute,
there's an extra fifty dollars sitting over here.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
After I average everybody's birthday out.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, you know what, why don't I make sure that
not only get me a cake, I'm also going to
get a clown for the for my birthday party too.
Now nobody else gets it because nobody else gets to
see the numbers. It's an old business adage of mine
that the accountant make sure that he gets paid first.

(32:37):
Is there there's always enough money to pay the accountant,
but there's there may not be enough money for all
the rest of the bills, but the accountant will make
sure that he's taken care of. So's it's kind of
like that is we've got norms in government of I guess,
disassociating yourself from your business, or I guess the norm

(32:59):
really is hand it over to your spouse. We've seen
a lot of that where you're talking about Diane Feinstein,
you're talking about Nancy Pelosi, you're talking about Jenny Thomas,
like there's a whole bunch of no, no, no, that
was my spouse.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
That wasn't me, that was my spouse.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And so what we're getting into with Doge, who doesn't
really have confined areas, right, nobody has defined the job.
And because nobody has defined the job, there is no nomination.
Because there's no nomination, there's no Senate confirmation and so

(33:43):
so it's that's why it's a mess. And it doesn't
seem like they're actually going to do anything about it.
And by them, I mean Congress. Congress isn't going to
say this is a conflict of interest. Congress isn't going
to turn around and say, hey, we need to appoint
this person as per article I think it's Article one,

(34:06):
sub section seven or that.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Could be where the perse side of things are.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
But the issue is is that the person who is
in charge of saying what is fraud and waste and
what is good for the American people gets billions of
dollars a year. And I don't know how else to
really say it. I mean, if I'm missing something, then

(34:33):
by all means somebody says something about it. But for
the most part that is the case that's here.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Now we can turn around and speculate and go.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Oh, he's doing it for the good or the people,
and he's not really taken over the FAA with this.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
He's the most efficient person to be able to do it,
and blah.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
My argument to that is, give me thirty six thirty
nine billion dollars over the course of the last twenty
years or so, and I'll make these things for you. You
want SpaceX, Yeah, give me fifteen billion dollars and I'll
make SpaceX. I will me just a regular dude with

(35:15):
a billion dollars and a reason to go get it.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Somebody great, somebody bad, somebody good, whatever.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Okay, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
You give me the billion dollars and I won't take
millions of dollars in salary.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
And so this is where.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
To me, we're talking about not paying farmers who have
already grown the food to go out there and give
it to starving people. It's already been grown already, the
pipeline's already been put together.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
But yet we're going to give.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Two point nine billion dollars to a lunar lander contract
that was supposed to land in April of twenty one.
So where did that three billion dollars go? By the way,
that three billion dollars is a tenth of USAID's total budget.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
But no, let's make.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Sure that those farmers don't get paid for the labor
that they did. And this is where I think so
so many people are going to these town halls in
screaming literally the word literally, screaming.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
At their congress members.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Because they want to turn around and say, you know what,
we're not going to cut Medicaid. We're not going to
cut this, We're not going to cut that. But those
departments all need to find money to cut Well, which
is it, Are you not going to cut them or
are you telling those people to find cuts? And even

(37:08):
then it's not, Hey, we found eight hundred and eighty
billion dollars in fraud and waste and abuse. No, it's
cut eight hundred and eighty billion dollars of budget. Nobody's saying,
this is what we found, and go ahead and go

(37:29):
to committee to review what we did. It's go to
committee and find this money. And that's where for me,
it's it's so so disingenuous to say we are not
going to cut these programs, but yet you are going

(37:50):
to cut funding from those organizations.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
So which is it?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Because I read your budget or your budget outline, your
reconciliation if you will, and.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Where is it? Where is the where is what am
I missing?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
And it's this this double think that depending on which
silo of.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
News you live in, is really what we're starting to see.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
So Tesla itself has received seven billion dollars in subsidies,
including a four hundred and sixty five million Department of
Energy loan in twenty twenty ten. And this isn't just
a Republicans or have been feeding Elon Musk. The Democrats

(38:45):
have been giving money to Tesla forever for at least
the last fifteen years or so, and a lot of
that is the electric vehicle side of everything. SpaceX Company
has secured fifteen bills billion dollars in NASA and Department
of Defense contracts for satellite launches, space station resupply missions,

(39:07):
and classified military payloads.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
This includes the two.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Point nine billion dollar lunar contract in twenty twenty twenty
one to make sure that we were on the moon.
And so again, by all means, give me fifteen billion dollars,
and I'll make sure that I make a SpaceX. Maybe

(39:35):
I'll make a space Y. Now then you then you've
got to name your first rocket Kevin. Starlink, the SpaceX
satellite Internet company, has won over nine hundred.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Million dollars in federal subsidies.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
The other conflict of interest is exactly what we were
talking about before the federal AVA administration initially awarded two
point four billion dollar contract to Verizon. Verizon got that contract. However,
since taking office, Musk has publicly criticized Verizon's network and

(40:19):
suggested Starlink is a better alternative. Is it because Verizon
has waste, fraud and abuse or is it because a
certain person who's in charge of the funding owns Starlink.
Verizon's contract is under review, but Starlink is being fast

(40:43):
tracked as the new recipient.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Tesla's federal EV subsidies.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
They contend Tesla continues to benefit from the federal EV
incentives incentives in state subsidies, but DOJ's cost cutting measures
could determine which EV tax credits remain or are phased out.
So if there's an EVE subsidy or incentive electric vehicles incentive,

(41:18):
if it doesn't go to SpaceX, it must be waste,
fraud and abuse, or if it doesn't go to Tesla,
it must be waste, fraud and abuse. National Highway Traffic
Safety Administration oversight of Tesla's safety investigations. Tesla is under
multiple investigations regarding the autopilot crashes, not to mention the

(41:41):
fact that the thing blows up as well Neuralink FDA
scrutiny Since must government appointment. Several FDA employees involved in
these investigations have been reassigned or dismissed.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
We've also got.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
The SEC has repeatedly investigated US for misleading investors, including
the infamous funding Secured tweet about taking Tesla private. DOJ
SEC probs into Starlink's military contracts. Starlink has received Pentagon

(42:25):
funding for military grade satellite services. And of course labor
law violations. And he's not the only one. Dick Cheney
was the CEO of Halliburton before becoming vice president. Despite

(42:49):
officially resigning, he retained the Halliburton stocks. Why do you
think we went to war? Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross. Wilber Ross,
a billionaire investor, served as Secretary of Commerce from twenty

(43:11):
seventeen to twenty twenty one, but failed to fully divest
from companies he regulated. Ross held undisclosed investments in China
and Russia and stock manipulation. Commerce Secretary Betsy de Vas,

(43:32):
the Education Secretary who was Education Secretary from twenty seventeen
to twenty one, with financial stakes in for profit education companies.
Why do you think there was such a large push
for school choice? Because now you can get those government

(43:56):
vouchers and hand them directly to Betty Vos, Betsy Devas,
I don't even want to get to Jared Kushner with
the Middle East policy and now sitting at a billion
dollar investment. We've also got Nancy Pelosi in house, trading

(44:16):
as Speaker of the House from two thousand and seven
to eleven.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
And nineteen to twenty three.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Pelosi had a confidential economic policy discussions, while her husband,
Paul Pelosi, made highly profitable stock trades. Twenty twenty one,
Paul Pelosi bought millions in call options of Apple, Microsoft,
and Nvidia, companies directly affected by congressional regulation of big tech.

(44:48):
Diane Feinstein defense and Chinese business interests, longtime California senator
from nineteen ninety two to twenty twenty three on the
Senate Intelligence Committee, while her husband held financial ties to
China and US defense contractors. The fact that they were

(45:13):
able to go around and sell the Biden name Hunter
Biden leveraged his father's political influence to secure foreign business deals.
Now was the President Joe Biden involved in this.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Depends on who you ask.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
At this point, would have really liked that impeachment trial,
but they did not have the votes to get it
done either. Same thing on Donald Trump. If I am
accused of something, I also have the right to a
speedy trial. If I said, no, I didn't do it,

(45:55):
why would you not want to go to trial to
prove that you didn't do it. When Trump became president
in twenty seventeen, he refused to divest from the Trump Organization,
maintaining financial ties to his real estate empire. His business

(46:18):
profited from foreign government payments, taxpayer funded events, and US
government leases. Yeah, if I made so much money for
being the president, I would also donate.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
My salary as president.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
When I could make way more money from proposing that
we host the twenty twenty G seven summit.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
At my golf course, or perhaps.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
The one point four million dollars that Secret Service paid
from January seventeenth to September twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
The one point four million dollars. Okay, well, I.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Donated the point four so I recouped that money back.
So I just made a million bucks or my companies
made a million bucks. And why did those companies make
a million bucks?

Speaker 9 (47:20):
Well?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Trump International Hotel in Washington.

Speaker 12 (47:23):
D C.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
The Secret Service paid one thousand, one hundred and eighty
five dollars per room per night, five times the government
rate of twoh one. Similarly, in February of twenty eighteen,
during Eric's Trump Eric Trump's visit, the hotel charged Secret

(47:47):
Service eight hundred and ninety five dollars for a room.
So this is where you want to talk about waste
fraud abuse. Let's start looking at conflicts of interest, Let's
start looking at insider trading.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Let's not go after our farmers. Let's not go after
the poor people in any of the other countries that
we've got South America, Africa, the Middle East. Let's start
looking at these contractors.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Okay, let's be mad. Let's be mad about the let's.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Say sixty thousand dollars for a comic book in Peru
that the State Department put together, not USAID.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
But let's go after that. Let's spend time. Let's spend
literally seven.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Million dollars every week, a million dollars a day to
go track down that sixty thousand, while we also divest
in the IRS. There's study after study that says for
every one dollar we invest in the IRS, the government

(49:19):
gets anywhere from six to twenty five dollars. They're not
coming after you. They don't want the investigators because they're
the ones cheating.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
You think those.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Eighty thousand IRS agents were gonna come after you, Yeah,
just like the Democrats are coming after your guns. And
this is where we have to start looking at these things.
We have to start looking at where the waste is

(50:02):
actually there, where is the actual corruption. There's a few
different things. The Dutchman's after me, where's the solution. We'll
I'll give it to you right here. Ban insider trading.
That's a first, one second one no more.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Citizens United get rid of that as well.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
And this is the issue is the money is inside
because they allowed it to be. And until we start
voting for people that will not allow this, it's what
we're going to get. The system won't correct itself with

(50:53):
the people that are inside the system benefiting from it.
So you and I that aren't benefiting from the system
need to start running, run for something, be part of it.
I know you've got some time, but the only way

(51:14):
to take our government, our economy, our livelihoods back is
to not get career politicians because their career is make
as much money as possible. We need teachers, we need firefighters,

(51:37):
we need sandwich artists, small business owners all need to run.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I'm thinking about it. Are you thinking about it?

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
When we come back, let's come back with some.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
News, some headlines, and we'll open up those phone lines.
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