Firing the Numbers and Did Gandhi Choose Violence? with Elliott Serrano

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(01:40):
here today, but let's go ahead and get started by
bringing in the man, the myth, the legend, the guy
himself who sits here in this seat at six am
so that I can get up at six pm.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
That is, of course, Elliott Serano. Thank you sir for
being here. I haven't left the whole day. Did you
notice I've been. I've been under the desk. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I was like, I'm just gonna go in here, take
a nap, and then I come back and there, yeah, well,
a couple by the top ten Tammian friends belling. All right, Okay,
I guess it's time to get up, time to get
up right here we are.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Uh, there's lots of different things that are happening within
the news, mister Serrano, lots of craziness, and it's for Mondays.
What is is out of our area for things is
you and I talk on free speech Fridays. We try
to get as much of the news out as possible,
and then they give us all of the evening Friday news,

(02:42):
and then we've got all weekend of people reacting to it,
and then Monday is a whole another push.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's a whole new dumpster fire of stuff. It's like
it doesn't stop.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
But Yeah, one of the things that I want to
talk about is, well, I guess to be uh grammarly correct,
would be would be are One of the things that
that are a concern of mine are the statistics that
we keep saying for things and the erosion of that transparency.

(03:15):
I mean, we lost a lot of CDC information within
within this administration. They kind of put it behind a
paywall or whatever. They just took it down because and
there was things that they didn't really like to hear
about of of climate change or even then obesity like

(03:35):
we had just talked about in uh talk time with
Tammy and friends. So it's it's one of those things
that we're starting to see our government be less apparent.
And despite what what the rhetoric is of we're we're
the most transparent one. That's well, yes, as in you

(03:57):
as in like you don't scandalize breaking the law, you
just do it in front of us.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I see where that might be the transparency for there.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
But talk a little bit about about protecting the numbers, right,
protecting us from the numbers, like it seems a little
counterintuitive for America.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, you're right, and I know that This is a
thing that you're gonna get a lot of arguments over
because if there's anything I've heard said to me how
many times like well, you know what the numbers lie?
And a bit about well, you can take statistics and
you can use statistics to pretty much argue anything that's true.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Do you know what the cure is for bad statistics?
More statistics?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Say exactly, because then you get context from it. Guess yes,
when you say the quote unquote numbers lie, that's usually
because you're taking.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Numbers out of context.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
You're taking numbers like let's say I'm looking at only
a very specific range in a particular area that could
be let's say the outlier of a bunch of things,
and if I focus on that, yeah, the numbers lie.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, let me let me.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Give you an example of it that I usually bring
up for it, and it's okay. Let's say somebody puts
out on paper and writes a whole report about it
about how teen pregnancy.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Doubled over the last year.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
And if you take ten thousand people, and there was
one teen pregnancy in ten thousand people, and then the
next year that's same ten thousand people.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now there's two pregnancies.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh well, teen pregnancy's gone up one hundred percent. That's
a accurate statistic. But without the other statistic of ten
thousand to one and ten thousand to two, that statistic
seems outrageous.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
That's where we get the term per capita. Yes, you
know it's a lot of to that point, yeah, I
mean if it's a lot, if it's ten people, right
and now there are two pregnantines, that's pretty serious exactly.
But if it's a ten thousand people and it's two pregnantines,
it's it's don't get me wrong. If it's an unwanted pregnancy,

(06:13):
it's bad, But it's not the epidemic that some people
will say.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, the one hundred percent increase, right, That's where you
got to watch when you see statistics, and statistics are
represented to you as a percentage of growth.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's now a percentage.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And somebody says, ah, forty, Like we just discovered last hour,
the forty percent of Americans are obese. Now, if I
turned around and said the rate of obesity is one
thousand percent or whatever it is, then that's that's a
little bit more misleading. It's almost as if you there's

(06:52):
people out there that don't understand numbers to the point
where you can have a thousand percent discount.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Two thousand percent discount on something. It's like, yeah, I
wish I wish it was it wasn't true.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I just wish I wish I wish those things would
not come out of the White House.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh yeah, you know that whole thing.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Like you can argue with the word nerds about this
or the math nerds about it when you go but
the coach says, Okay, go up there and give one
hundred and ten percent. It's impossible to give one hundred
and ten.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Percent of effort. It's it's either one hundred percent or not.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
But I can reduce my drug prices by a thousand
per well, man, that.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Means that means they are paying me to take their drugs.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Are statistics wrong? If people don't understand numbers.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Mean, are they wrong? I mean I guess it's that's
a subjective.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, if you don't understand how numbers work, I could
see where statistics would be misleading.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
See, there's there's a thing.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I will bring this up, and I know there is
this entire movie right now within the scientific community and
the economist community. And all that is because you get
a bunch of economists in a room together and they
talk about I mean, I've talked to economists. There are
very few economists that I can sit down and talk with.
I'm like, I pick up everything they're saying. There are
a couple out there that they want to speak to

(08:17):
you in layman's terms and like you're saying, like this
is what this means, so on and so forth. But
a lot of other economists, because they've been doing it
their entire lives, you know, to them, everything makes perfect
sense and they get You'll get a couple of them
together and they start debating it. It's like freaking philosophy.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
They start jumping into inflation rates and then GDP versus
the Consumer Price Index, and you can get into a
lot of these different statistics, but you need somebody who
understands those.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Exactly and can't explain them to the layman so that
they understand. So then like if you sit there and
you go, okay, I really get this now I understand
why this is important. Like again, let's talk about the
big thing. It's with They talk about the unemployment numbers, right,
and they say you have, you get your This isn't
one thing that drives me nuts, though, And I kind

(09:07):
of blamed media for this, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
So you know media outlets they talk about like the.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Unemployment, well, unemployment numbers are better than expected, blah blah blah.
And then they announced so like forty thousand new jobs,
da DA, And then but that's not even a hard number.
What they don't say is that that's really more of
a guestimate and then you're going to get the true
number a couple of months down the line when they
give the.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Quote unquote correction. And that's what they've been doing.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
And that's what kind of set off our president in
that in the beginning these numbers were, you know, everything
was looking kind of erosie, like he was able to
go out there and say, oh, this is great, this
is great. But then when the true numbers started coming in,
it's like, wait a minute, wait, now you're telling telling
everybody's this, and you're just doing this to make us
look bad. And if everyone really got an idea and

(09:54):
said no, it's not that it that they lied the
first time or whatever. It it's just that that's how
when you're when you're polling how many thousands of companies
throughout a nation. You're not going to get instantaneous results,
like within the first week.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
It takes time.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
We even look at the political side of it too.
Iowa was called for Harris at a certain point even
before the election started, and then that was another thing
that triggered this administration too. So so when you have
a sample size of something and you don't actually get
the full numbers, you have to then extrapolate the numbers
upon it.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You turn around and say, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Can't possibly interview all ten thousand people, but ten thousand
people are going to eventually report their taxes and all
of these different things. So what I'm gonna do is
I'm going to sample one thousand people and I'm going
to do my best to pull it from as many
sporadic different places as I can use that sample size

(10:55):
to then project the full ten thousand. Then once everything
is reported, we go back and do the corrections.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
So the way it looks right.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Now was on August first, following the release of the
July jobs report showing only seventy three percent new jobs,
far below forecast. So the forecast had already put up
I think it was like one hundred and thirty almost
two hundred thousand that they were forecasting to grow.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
And I'm like, really, because ask anybody out there who's
trying to find any job right now.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
It is rough.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
You go on LinkedIn and the stories upon stories upon
stories of people who are having a hard time because
companies are they're putting up, you know, ghost jobs. They're
interviewing people for positions and never hiring for them. So
there's also that that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, and even the unemployment rate itself, the unemployment rate
only measures people who are actively looking for work. If
people stop looking for work and don't report that they
have a job or they're getting paid under the table
or anything like that, they they just stop. They just
pull themselves out. There's a lot of people that are

(12:08):
underemployed as well. They may have a job or two
or three, but they're underemployed for everything. So the numbers themselves,
and I agree with you that the media does a
very terrible job of explaining what those numbers are. When
somebody says the unemployment rate, they turn around and go, oh, well,
you're an adult, you should understand what the unemployment rate is.

(12:30):
But nobody explains what that unemployment rate is. And the
unemployment rate is people the amount of people who are
actively looking for a job compared to the people who
have a job.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Added to that, the number of people who are actively
looking for a job and are receiving unemployment benefits exactly,
which only lasts for so long, and the moment you're
a benefits run out, they just stop counting you exactly.
So that means that number can drop. But as you said,
doesn't necessarily mean you are actively employed.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
And so this brings us a little bit more into
some of the referee positions. Right, you've got the Central Bank,
you've got the Federal Reserve, you've got Powell. He turns
around and says, look, I'm not going to raise the
rates or lower the rates until these numbers hit. So

(13:24):
what's the next thing that happens, Well, get rid of
the person that's doing the numbers. If guy's waiting on numbers,
well then let's get our own person in here to
put our own numbers in. And if that's the numbers
that he's looking for, well, oh, just so magically the
numbers are here. So what's your excuse now? And it's

(13:44):
dangerous it's dangerous when you start firing the referees. It
marches us towards a different type of government than what
we assumed we were born into.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
The irony being that he wants to fire the guy
that he hired the first time around.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, and Powell absolutely, which you forgot that he that
he was the guy who hit it.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
At this point, it's like, oh, well, Biden did that.
He's a Biden. No, no, you did it.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Oh that terrible, that whole thing that we have with Canada.
Who came up but that it was an idiot. It
was you.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
You.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
You threw out NAFTA and you came up with this
new bit. And now after doing that, you come back
and go, oh ah, this isn't good either.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
And then and you also got to look at the
numbers as well. This is also within the turmoil of tariffs.
There are a lot of businesses out there that are
holding off completely, but because they didn't say they were
going to hold off because the tariffs were being paused

(14:49):
as well. So when I call you up and say, hey,
do you plan on hiring anybody? Oh, yeah, I definitely
plan on hiring people. And then when the terriffs finally
hit and you didn't tire those people.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, you need that correction that's in there.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So this is the issue of it for here, when
a head of state dismisses a statistician or an entire
statistical office. See, that's what we've seen too, for a
lot of these things. We've seen a specific statistician be fired,
and then we're also seeing the offices be eroded because

(15:25):
the data produced was politically inconvenient. Is the that's almost
the exact quote of their here to the numbers that
weren't out. We're here to make the Republicans and me
look bad. And I think it is your own bill
and your own policies that make you look bad.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean, if you can do that, if you can
just declare that reality doesn't apply in reality only makes
me look bad, then at what point can any president
do that?

Speaker 6 (15:58):
Now?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I will say this because is I hear this all
the time. I still hear about how things were under
previous administrations and how terrible they were. But when you
look at the numbers, yeah, the numbers show that things.
I mean, did we feel it? Not necessarily a lot
of people didn't feel it. And I empathize with that,

(16:20):
but the numbers overall showed that things did improve on
their previous administrations.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
And faster than any of the other countries.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Because to that, we had really competent people and they're
doing their jobs.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Really okay, okay, now your biases really showing really competent people.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Get out of to ask anyone, Ask anyone in the
city if they said, you know what we're gonna do.
We're gonna go to w RMN and we're gonna hire
everybody there and we're gonna make put them in charge
of the city of Elgin.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Tell me how many people are.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Gonna go, How many people are gonna go, Oh, that's.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
A great idea. Yeah, well, I mean he's on wa
RMN and friends on the weekend. I can must because
I'll do public works.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Sure, I mean, it's what pick up garbage and roadkill.
I guess I can talk about how great it is,
you know. So to me, it's just been so plainly
obvious right now that there are things going on and
if anyone can sit there and go, you know, that's
that's fine. I can still I'm okay with this. I

(17:27):
can live with this.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
There was a time when they said it's a it's
you're whistling by the graveyard with things, you know, Well,
they say Republicans will whistled by the graveyard when it
came to the economy. Right now, they're all whistling by
the graveyard, and the zombies are coming up out of
the graves, and they're they're looking for birds. Don't that's

(17:51):
that's fine that they're they're they're looking for jobs.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Elliott, the party told you to reject the evidence of
your eyes and your ears. It is their final, most
essential command. Is that what we're finally getting into right now.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
We've been the unfortunate parties that we've been there for
a while.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, we've been we've been that direction. I would say
that that we've had. Even even six months ago, we
we still had some sort of I guess, legitimacy towards
the non government organizations, right, even though they're vilified, even
though they're they're called bureaucrats, even though they're they're whatever

(18:32):
else you want to want to attack them with the
deep state, right.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
And someone still has yet to explain to me what
the deep state.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, the deep state is anybody who works for the
government that isn't part of your party.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Is the way that I've I've seen.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
So if anybody works at the government and wasn't appointed
by you, or wasn't part of your party, or didn't
register as this certain party over here, immediately deep state.
That's just what both sides like to do at this point,
because now we've got the left that is screaming the
deep state of the Heritage Foundation and Project twenty twenty five,

(19:08):
while we've had for almost my entire life the Clinton
deep state and the Blue deep state and all of
the other stuff. From what I've seen, it's anybody who's
not in your party is the deep state. At this point.
It's atrocious because a lot of it, to me is

(19:28):
there are a lot of people in these government organizations
that that is their job. They turned around and said,
I'm going to be a statust like I'm going to
be a statistician, right, I'm going to be a person
that takes numbers and looks at the science behind them.
For everything else, labor and bureau and all of the

(19:49):
other things that happen, there are people that generally take
pride in giving the most accurate numbers that they possibly can,
regardless of what it makes the the party look like,
and when the party is only when the party is
only worried about the way that everything makes them look

(20:14):
all the time, this vanity play for the party. Yes,
it doesn't matter what statistics are going to come out.
If they are not one favorable to them, then they're
going to then they're going to now claim that it's false.
This is the new nuh uh that we're.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
In right now. It's it's truthiness against alternative facts.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
There are so many people and I hear this too,
it's like, well, you know, you should be able to
fire whoever you want in government, you know, if they're
not part of if they're again, if they're not a
part of your team, you should be able to get
rid of them. Which, if that's the way you want
to look at it, fine, but here's here's another way
I'll ask you to look at things. Let's say you

(20:59):
buy you buy us a business that services an entire
town and they have like one hundred employees, and you
go in and you decide I'm going to run this
my way, and you fire all hundred employees because you
didn't know any of them. And now you've got to
hire one hundred new folks, and you got to train
them up, and you got to build them up to

(21:20):
the expertise that they're going to need to be able
to service the entire town. How long is it going
to take you to get those hundred new people up
to the level where they can do the work that
you hired them to do.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Especially without any help from anybody else.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
And anybody like who was working there before, because you
got rid of them. You know, they call it institutional knowledge.
You got rid of all the institutional knowledge. So all
these new people are going to come in. And what
happens when you bring new people in that they haven't
made the mistakes that you've made.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh, they make new mistakes.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They make the same mistakes that the other people would
have not made to begin with.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Right like handling a pandemic or or you know again,
things like the very basic things that we need the
federal government to do for people. And I will say
this again and again and again. If you keep saying
you want smaller government, here's a problem. Then you need
a smaller country. Because our country is bigger now than

(22:18):
it was, say ten years ago, when there was quote
unquote smaller government. And add to that the government really
isn't that much bigger now than it was ten years.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
When they say smaller government, what they mean is one
dude with a pointy hat with a whole bunch of
jewels on it and a big chair. That's what they
mean by small government, because that's the smallest government that
you can get, is one.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Dude, right, Dumbledore. Yeah, well, monarchy at h at that
point to me. But even with that, that's the smallest
government you can get. Right, But is it? Yeah? I guess,
but is it?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But that's the problem is then then the pyramid becomes inverted.
The king is not there to serve the people. The
people are there to serve the king.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
So you know, if you want to sit there and go, well,
this guy's my king, fine, but understand that a king
does not serve the people. The king is there to
be served by the people. That's the very purpose of royalty.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
The over under for me is twenty thirty of if
we get North Korea style. Oh no, grocery stores are full.
I don't know what you're talking about. Oh no, what
are you talking about? Is Tucker Carlson gonna come to
a Pigley wiggly and point out in America's pretty great, guys. See,

(23:36):
at what point do we do this? Because if it's
all rainbows and puppies for everything on there, and that's
the only numbers that can come out are rainbow and
puppy numbers, then we're just going to see hyper inflation
for everything too.

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Speaker 1 (28:08):
Hello, america welcome back to a political talk show here
on w r M. N it's good to see you.
Here it's good to see you out there in the.
World on YouTube, land we see a couple people that
are over.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
There brandon's hopping in.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
There The Boss lady showed up as, Well karen And,
dennis And derek And jose And, buffy all kinds of
different people that hopped. IN i Think Hector soto came
in right off the bat first this. Morning, there Mister,
serrano you were here for.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
THAT i was. Here i'm here in the. Morning CAN
i tell you.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
SOMETHING i think the people who are here at first
seeing in the, morning like six in the, MORNING i love,
them But i'm, like what are you doing? It what
are you doing on YouTube at six in the. Morning
i'm NOT i gotta be. HERE i, mean i'd be
turning on the. RADIO i listen to the, radio BUT
i don't know if i'd have you, on i'd be
on the YouTube listen ready to, go because you got
to have your phone out to THE tv on And i'm, like, OKAY.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I like doing that at the at the, House i'll
put it on either like we got one of those
displays for it and The google, displays, yeah and put
him in, there or just to put it on THE
tv in the living room.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Now but that's HOW i listened to, this the everything
on our. Men When i'm, home just put the feed
on my SMART. TV i Tell alexa played w. Orament
then If i'm not, there it's keeping my dog.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Company there you, go, hey, baby how are? You she
likes talk time With tammy And. Friends it is. Fun
it is a fun.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Show but On fridays there is no talk time With
tammy And. Friends it Is Dino's Night.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
OUT i, know AND i GUESS i fired. Him and
do you, KNOW i just want you to. KNOW i
think we've come to. Terms we can sign you a new.
Contract please come back For Dino's Night. Out, WELL i
think we're gonna do a little rejiggering of the, show
maybe a little, rebranding but, NO i think you know
you've got a home.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Here that's gonna be. Fine you're welcome, anytime. Anytime that's
really an insight. Joke oh my.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Goodness uh here we go because of Course dito is
the general, manager, right of course he's.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
There if, anything he locks me out of the station
if we come back in the keys of. It, kay
the key doesn't work. Anymore, YEAH i want to talk
about the weaponization of.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Information there's a lot of times that people hold, onto
uh onto a statistic and then just go around and
beat people up with.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
It it's, like is that is there a purpose for?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That should we just hold statistics in our back pocket
ready to ready to shoot him out at any, time
or is it something that we should constantly just be
researching in in general and not necessarily write them all
down and make sure that we've got those those things in?
There how how Space pacific do we really need to

(31:01):
get with?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Statistics and Nowadays.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I'm a collect. Them But i'm gonna be honest with.
YOU i am done trying to debate with. PEOPLE i
am done trying to, say, hey this is what it
is and this is how it can be and da da.
DA i think in many cases we are kind of past.
THAT i think at this point it's time for all
the folks who aren't participating in this whole, thing who
just sit back and let those of us on the

(31:23):
fringes have it out shouting at each. Other it's time
for them to step in and kind of like be
the grown. Ups it's like, that how many millions of
people who normally don't, vote like with this last?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Election was? IT i think it was less than half
the total, Electorcy oh, yeah we didn't hit. Half yeah
we didn't even hit.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Half so that other half that stayed home needs to
step up and, Go, okay y'all you. CRAZY i put
myself among, them you crazy. People you're with your idealisms
or your or your or whatever it. Is we need
to start voting more sensibly and boom and get get
more of the more of the voice of the majority

(32:04):
of the country, involved because we've fallen into this whole
thing now where it's a minority gets just enough votes
and then they say that that's what the entire country,
wants which it. Doesn't yeah to the, Mandate so it's
back to this WHOLE i, Mean i'm, LIKE i can tell, you,
hey you know, what fewer people voted for our current
president than voted For biden in the last, election but

(32:25):
that doesn't. Matter they're just gonna, say, oh, well more
than half the country voted for, him which actually. No
but the problem is is that then you have EVEN
cnn going out there and saying that at least half
the country voted for our current, president which did that
did not. Happen and we also we tend to overlook

(32:46):
what the to the point, again with, numbers even basic,
numbers simple.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Numbers how many people live in The United states Of, America.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Well about at the last, census we're going three hundred
and thirty, million we, believe although that number is going
to drop in a bit because of all the.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Deportations we're doing. Fine but, then, okay.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
The three hundred and thirty million people live in The
United states Of. America how many people live In canada forty? Million,
well we have a trade deficit With. Canada they don't
buy as much stuff as we. Do they don't buy
as much stuff from us as we do from. Them
yet because we have almost three hundred, more three hundred
million more, people of course we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Buy more stuff if that's a simple understanding of.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Numbers but would and you're but you're back to the, statistics,
Right you're back to making a decision based off of
the single, statistic, right because because the other side of,
it the only cure for statistics is more, statistics is
to get more of it out. There and if that's a,
few but that's if you have people who dig their heels.
In it doesn't matter exactly because you can lean on one.
Statistic and that's kind of my point here is is

(33:51):
do we lean too much on a single statistic and
then not look at anything. Else like we talked about crime,
rate Right nationally crime rate is going. Down, yes if
you look at some of the rural areas of the,
country crime rate is going up because saturating, wise cities

(34:13):
are becoming safer and places that are out and the rural,
side per capita again this is per capita rates per.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Person the rural areas.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Per person are becoming more violent and that may be
where people are seeing this rise in violence or whatever.
Else and here's what you're gonna. Get you're gonna, go,
oh but what about The summer of love.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That was years?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Ago excuse, me, hello years years years.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Wit To summer of love that was Seventy.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
No, NO i MEAN i mean no of The Black
Lives matter and everything else that was that was.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
There it was half a decade. Ago, yeah it was
PRE covid advat at THE.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
VAT i keep hearing about how they Burned minnesota to the. Ground,
yeah oh my, Goodness. Minisoda are you? Okay but AND i.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Think minnesota's pretty much saying it's like what what happened
with The Los angeles when they sent the?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Vedo YEAH i heard that's still. On, yeah SO i
heard there's still people punching babies over.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
There but it's back to But i'm going to go
back to again the sensationalism of. MEDIA cnn included that
liberal that liberal direct where that they're always pushing their liberal.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Agenda IN, SNBC i think is more.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Liberal but, yeah, yeah, no But i'm just, saying but
they like REMEMBER cnn is false fake.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
News, yeah we can't believe anything they.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Say if you look At adfonte's with the with the
chart for, everything most of the mainstream media is Slightly, yeah,
yeah is. Slightly now are they outside of skew.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Or lean or anything like.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
That, no they are slightly left because a lot of
times they're dealing with statistics and not.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
SENSATIONALISM i know statistics have a liberal, bias but but
but to that point.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Though AGAIN i see the stay around because the people
have this particular perception of a particular network or, whatever
and the networks and all the, networks all of. Them
i'll even throw UP msnbc, TWO msmb. THREE i, mean
they go so far left or. DAYS i can't listen
to them even AND i myself as a. Liberal they

(36:37):
they they all know they have to show that sensationalism
to get the. Ratings so when this whole thing happens
In Los angeles and they deploy all these marines, there they.
Don't they don't show. That, yeah The marines were, deployed
and what did they. Do they sat in an office
building for how? Long, yeah and then after a while
they just guarded some government buildings for a, while and
then they went. Home and at the same the same

(36:59):
burning garbage, can everyone was standing around it.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
And showing Of Los angeles is on.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Fire, meanwhile my friends who actually live In Los angeles
are on their social, media is Going, folks none of
that has.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Happened show me a Different, Waymo, like show me that's
that's a Way mo of a different, color.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
And everyone's, great everyone's everyone's having vigils For. Waymo it's
like that That simpsons episode where Where homer had the
assistance monkey Named mojo And wayo was gay For, waymo
this For, weymo AND i did feel bad for The.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Waymo they were calling The waymos to ber.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Them so, there, uh here we go on the phone
lines here eight, four, seven, nine, three one fourteen.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Ten hello, caller what would you like to talk? About
mister T.

Speaker 14 (37:51):
Let's, go, Buddy, OKAY i would like to see if
we could get a dunking tanket The Americans First Responder
fest and see who can raise the most money from
W R M. N i.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Challenge, OH i got to get. SPICIER i got to
get spicier on this. Show then if that's the way
it's going to, be, really Because i'll tell, You i'll tell, You,
dave there's SOMETIMES i don't let you look at my
notes because there are some there are some people and
some groups of people THAT i absolutely refrain from calling

(38:25):
out BECAUSE i know that they might want to show
up with pitchforks instead of dunk.

Speaker 14 (38:33):
Tanks come on Versus, ELLIOTT i have people drop him
like a.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
ROCK i.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Know well.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
AGAIN i say, This i'll do.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
It but two things, first as long as there's beer
BECAUSE i love it when people get drunk and try
to throw a, ball and and and and the angrier
and drunker they are the. Worse they're aim and no
one can run up the up to the little target
and hit it with their. Fists BECAUSE i get that's
happened to me to get so. Angry they're, like, ah

(39:07):
did they run up to the target and hit it
with their?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Fists there there a guy who's jumping in right now
on the chat and he's, saying go, packers bears.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Suck he's trying. Already it's getting that getting people all worked.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Up, Now, dave what do you think about statistics in?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Politics?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Man because you do a lot of grassroots stuff and
you make a lot of decisions based off of those micro.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Statistics for the.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Community what do you think about about us kind OF
i don't, know maybe having some referees in this, thing
or should it all just be whoever wants to make
a study should just make a study and publish it
regardless of the.

Speaker 14 (39:47):
Bias you, know the physics really are just off the.
Charge you don't go by bill because They since the
last ten, years twelve, years the elections have have always
changed different because now you've got these mail in, ballots
and now you've got to calculate before the elections as
to how many mail and ballots are out there and
your district that you're running for or you're you, know

(40:09):
stuff like. That you got to start pumping. Them so
did those people go in and vote in person or
did they not turning their mail in ballots or you.
Know so statistics are just hard because the demographics is
changing left and right every time we turn, AROUND i,
mean population, stages the mail in ballots is a different
factor to the whole entire. Equation so it's hard to

(40:32):
keep tracking. Statistics WHEN i, RAN i didn't really go on,
statistics you, KNOW i went on was just bombing Everybody
democrat Or, republican are independent with my message and with my,
literature with my speaking to. THEM i, MEAN i didn't
want to get involved the statistics because sometimes that's the
sort you can die.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
By, yeah that's very.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
True if you if you don't have SOLID i guess,
numbers you could be walking directly into a trap or
into something that's.

Speaker 14 (41:03):
Bad, yeah and polls are always. Off if we watched
out the. Poles goal on one news broadcaster says, that,
oh this person's up by this much in the polls
when they're really actually. Not you, know you're you're you're
talking to about one hundred. People you can't talk to
a million, people you.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Know do you think this back and forth with incumbency
is The american people searching for a place to? Land
is this what we're having issues with because us going
back and forth with just essentially kicking out the, incumbent
whatever party it, is people are voting anti. Incumbent is
this because we've lost faith in the party system or

(41:47):
do you think people are just trying to recircle the.

Speaker 14 (41:50):
Wagon, NO i think they lost faith in the. Person
they may have voted in for this person and didn't
like their policies after one term and then and they
wanted them. Out that's what, happens you. Know will people
will will like you one day for something you, say
and then hate you for the same thing you, say
and then the next day it's the, opposite you know
WHAT i. Mean you can't please everybody in this, world

(42:13):
because if you, did it would be a perfect.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
World, Right, well you.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Can please everybody in the world if they only hear
the good, stuff or they only hear the things that
you want them to hear. Right so that's WHY i
think a lot of times this administration says the same,
thing it, says says both sides, right we turn around
and and just last week we got if if the

(42:40):
dollar is, weak you've got an idiot for a, president
and then seven days later it, was, well the dollar's.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Got to go. Down you make a lot of. Money
it's a smart.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Move and do you think if you think IF i
just keep saying both things enough, Times i'll see somebody
will turn around and just, go, oh, well he said
the right, thing even THOUGH i may have said the
wrong thing six or seven other, times as long AS
i say the right thing once you've got the good,
SoundBite regardless of what reality you want to actually live.

Speaker 14 (43:14):
In, yeah it. Is you, know you get your message out,
there repeat it over and over any brainwashed, people.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
But you repeat both.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Messages that's that's Where i'm starting to see right, now
is we're getting both messages from the same, source just
so that we're kind of covering our. Bases it's odd
to hear that it's made up by The democrats and
it's a, hoax but it's also something that we put

(43:43):
together at a different time and date or something, else
like it's JUST i don't, KNOW i don't like.

Speaker 14 (43:49):
It yeah it. Is and here's another thing, too when
people why why people are voted out incumbents is because
of the fact is is that it bothers. Me it's
mind blowing to. Me like, say, uh let's SAY i
run For. Congress let's Say i'm, saying why WOULD i
want to raise my own? Taxes why WOULD i want
a better? GOVERNMENT i want safer, STREET i want more.

(44:09):
Jobs i'm gonna go and fight for. You i'm not
going to be uh those other ones that are just
making money off the system and living high on the
hog and don't want to go away because it's too
good to be a, king now you know WHAT i.
Mean and then all of a sudden you run out
of those, morals and then you get into In, congress
and you, know lobbyists are paid everybody's want and die
in you and and then next thing you, know you

(44:30):
become one of. Them and that's what bothers me the.
Most and there's only one, guy WELL i, think has
not been became one of, them and he is my Favorite,
democrat and that is definitely. BETTERMAN i mean betterment is
my Favorite.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
DEMOCRAT i think HE'S i think he's.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
OKAY i think he's doing his best for the people Of.
Pennsylvania BUT i my problem is with him IS i
think he's just as much of a warhawk As Lindsay
gang AND i think that's my biggest issue with. Him
but as far as like sticking to his own, guns,
yeah he's thumbed his nose at the party a few
times because that's just the way that he wants to do.

(45:07):
It he wants to wear sandals with socks and. Uh
where his hoodies for things like? That and if that,
look if that's if that's the working man's wardrobe that we,
need throw a Throw american tie Or american flag pin
on the hoodie and uh and march him Into washington
or give him a radio. Show, hey, Thanks, Teaz i'm

(45:31):
gonna work on that dunk tank. MAN i think that's
a great, idea.

Speaker 14 (45:34):
Me And, elliott who makes them all some. MONEY i
think it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Be, ooh that'll we'll have to put out a bucket
or something like. That that'll be a.

Speaker 14 (45:42):
Good unless there are more people to Hate elliott like
people like, him it's hard to talk to.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
People like those, people, right those, people people. People, Thanks Buddy.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
ELLIOTT i want to talk a little bit about, that
about the populist incumbent type of things statistics, Wise, statistically
the populist movement right now In america That Donald trump
absolutely tied. Into, now is he a true? POPULIST i don't.
Know heked he talked the talk at least with it

(46:17):
for a lot of. Stuff but right, now, statistically all
of these Things i'm about ready to tell you are
in the upper seventy to eighty percent of All americans
as a.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Whole, now some of these pull.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
A little bit better for, progressives but even With, republicans
these still pull above seventy. Percent higher, wages paid family,
leave ending, wars negotiating prescription drug, prices removing big money from,
politics and banning private equity from buying up large housing.

(46:56):
Stock should this be the platform for either? Party regardless
of what trans kids do in?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Sports should this be the? Platform?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah but here's the. Thing those all sound, great everybody loves,
it but the reality is is that when you actually
try to address, it you get say you're going to address,
it like this whole thing That President trump is considered
to be a quote unquote. Populist, firse he's the most
unpopular Populist i've ever. SEEN i mean, again seventy seven

(47:32):
million people voted for. Him that's like a twenty three
twenty four percent of the. Nation, yeah, okay so that's
one in four. People you get One trump supporter in
a room of five. People they're not talking about.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Mid, America kreda Kat he's my, king.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
He's my now go now they sit down and they
they mind their their p's and q's because, well because it's.
That but but then add to, that, yes he says
all these, things and it astounds me That i've the first.
Administration they didn't realize the guy's gonna tell you anything
he can to get you to vote for. Him and,
again and this time, around talk to anybody In New

(48:10):
york meet a.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Contractor did he didn't break his break a deal with
a number of.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
People he even went On elon on a podcast With
Elon musk praising him for firing all those people in
that in THAT i.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Want to, say it was A TEXAS U tesla.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Plan and he cheats a golf and have you seen
his his his, ground his putting.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Game, no it's really.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Bad and add to, that he's, like and then he
has a guy out there with a little. Stick it's,
like the ball isn't even close to the, cup and
the guy still.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Pulls a little, pole the little pole out of the,
hall AND i, go what are you doing that? For
for what you just? Want you're gonna kick it in for? Him, okay,
Fine but to be so being.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
A populist in what you, say, perhaps but an actual, deeds,
no because then that brings you to the point of
we know we can't do, this so we're going to
distract you with these other things that you really should
care more.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
About, well and to my point is is these are
also things that The democrats and their party have also
just kind of placated towards fifteen's start with higher, wages,
right fifteen dollars minimum?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Wage who took that? Out?

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Biden biden took that. Out they didn't even try to
get it into the. Floor and this is my issue
with a lot of these, things is they campaign on,
it they get your vote out of, it but when
it time comes time to put it on the floor
and use the majority that you've got and to do everything.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Else, ah darn.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
It's Joe manchin won't let me do. It oh, MAN
i would really like to do, it But Christian cinema
just won't let.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Us let us do.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
It AND i KNOW i could just put it in
the bill and make them vote against the, thing But
Nancy pelosi said that we can't bring a bill to
the floor unless we have all the votes, already otherwise
we'll look. Dumb here's the, thing bring it to the. Floor,
yeah but bring it to the floor and beat up
everybody who votes against.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
IT i would say, yes but Let's i'm gonna be
see now you've you have beaten the idealist out of.
Me so every TIME i come on this, show here's my,
Thing makavellian, Politics i'm gonna tell, you and this is.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Back this is back to the thing about.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Statistics this is back to the thing about about facts
and truthiness and so. On you can have a bill
out there that gives everybody a pony because the entire
nation wants a. Pony, sure it goes to the floor
and The Democratic party can vote against, it or The
Republican party can vote against, it and it.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Can fail because of that.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Vote but the time's going to come when the actual
when the actual reckoning for that vote comes.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Up oh, no, no, NO i didn't vote for that.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
REASON i didn't vote for it because or GET i
wanted to vote for, That but this is what was,
Happening da da, da and then and then us.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
As an electorate we go, okay, yeah, fine.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Exactly so here's my point with, it as we got one.
MINUTE i don't want to hit the other brake, tour
but my issue with it here is The Republican. Party
the reason That Donald trump got control of The Republican
party was every time somebody spoke up against, him.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
He, said that guy's, out and guess what.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Happened that guy got out until he had masked enough
people that he bullied into saying this is my. Platform,
now instead of having a strong man or anything like
that for The democratic side of, THINGS i would turn

(51:52):
around and, Say, okay everybody wants fifteen dollars an hour
paid family, leave ending the.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Wars you now.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Have to vote for, them and now you have to
go back to your constituents to say why you did
or did not vote for. It i'm saying The democrats
do not beat up on each other enough to actually
get stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Done i'd beat Up republicans for they know we want,
it they're not giving it to.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Them they want to beat Up republicans Because republicans.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Are on that.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Side, now nobody turns around and, Says Joe, manchin.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
If you don't get your stuff, Together.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I'm going down To West virginia and telling everybody you
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N those of you that are watching over.

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There on the YouTube side of things are seeing THAT
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Other yeah and and it took everything in me to
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Speaker 1 (55:29):
GREEN i am joined with the amazing co host for
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but this Is Elliott. Serrano thank you very much for
being here and staying up with.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Me thank you for having.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Me this allows me a chance to get all my
political ramblings out because you, KNOW i don't talk about
it in the morning because really that's Again i'm getting depressed.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Right now just talking. HERE i don't want to bring
that into the more the.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Show so, well don't get too, depressed right BECAUSE i
mean despair is not an. Option we cannot sit here
and and just keep keep thinking about all, well let's
just ride the uh the way down type of type of.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
THING i don't know where you say THAT i can do,
that But i'm ready to ride that. DOWN i mean
it's A i, mean what was it the the capsule
that went to the deep flea and then. Floated i'm,
like that's that's WHERE i.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Am, well in The, navy they always asked LIKE i
had secret clearance for, things so everybody would like all
my friends and family be, like.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Oh how how deep could a submarine?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Go like they would they would ask me all these,
things And i'd, say, well it could go all the
way down to the bottom.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Once all, right let me ask you as an as
a navy, Man so how do you feel like when
the president announces that there's gonna be some nuclear subs
in waters near another?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Man that is that's tough times like it.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Says it like announces it to the fricking. World oh,
yeah by the, Way i'm oly two subs that go over.

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There.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yes in, Fact News nation put something.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
OUT i just saw it the other. Day i'm trying
to look for it right. Now but for, me, yes
this is obvious. Escalation the other, thing did you see
did you see the response that The russian government put
out with?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
IT i hope they.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Trolled, yeah it was quite a. Bit they to paraphrase
a little bit BECAUSE i don't Speak. Russian, uh they, said,
uh The President Donald trump should be reminded that the
videos is unmralless videos or something like, that the unscrupulous

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videos along those lines are not only in possession by The.
Masade so they essentially like wink, wink nudge, nudge like,
hey these uh these videos that that That, Massae, yes for,
Real russia put That.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah wait CAN i, say CAN i say.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
The the the the letter that comes after oh twice
THE pp tapes they're talking about the.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Steel, yes what it says was a Real. Yeah so
after these submarines went over. There, yes it Was dmitri
med Uh. Medved he was the one who who, SAID
i want to remind The president of The United states
That massad isn't.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
The only one who has the. TAPES i, mean come,
on let's just release can we see?

Speaker 3 (58:41):
HIM i want to see them because here's the. Thing
it's not gonna make a blessed. Difference it's. Not you
can have it out there and it'll be, like, oh you, know, whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
If not if the if the Access hollywood stuff and
all of the other things didn't do. It there's there
is no. Line there's there's there's no. Line there is
we've We've.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
You guys can say that there's a.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Line you can say, That oh, well not everybody's going. That,
no there is a there's a bottom when we talk about,
statistics there is a bottom thirty two thirty three percent
that favorability That trump.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Never never lose, rates never never. Happens it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Matter but mind, you that's, okay let's go back into
the let's.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Look at it per. Capita, sure what's thirty two percent
of seventy seven?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Million, no, no, No i'm saying of the entire not
just the people who. Voted i'm saying his approval. Rating,
yeah but it's approval rating cannot get.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Below, well that.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Was something When David t's was on and talking about
polling and the the unreliability of, it which is true
because now the science of polling has advanced to the
point where IF i want a poll that tells me
a particular, result there are are now ways to get
that result using using the science quote unquote scientific method of.

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Polling but you, know, Okay i'm gonna sample, here, here
and here BECAUSE i know are more likely to get
the Result i'm looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
There, yeah even if you, GO i think it's five
thirty eight dot com that is that Is Silver Nate
silver's aside to it as. Well and if you read
The gallop or The politico or any of the other
THE ipso poles that are in, there at, most at

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most these approval ratings are at five thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
People that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
It, yeah all they are, doing, yeah and then looking
for five thousand people and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
They are five. Thousand here's the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Thing i've got a problem with poles in. General poles
are skewed towards people who take.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Poles, yes so as someone as someone who participates in. Polls,
Yes ACTUALLY i get The gallop all the. Time there's
a lot of people that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Turn around and GO i don't want TO i don't
want to talk about. IT i don't or even not
answering the, Phone, NO i.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
DON'T i get. THEM i get them via email BECAUSE
i want to be. ONE i get the. Whole no
one asked me, no ask. Me i'll tell, you, Honestly
i'll tell.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
You but, yeah although some of the questions that they
ask on gallipols are pretty pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Personal oh it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
True, well because they're trying to find it all the
way down for that and IT'S i don't, know it's
it's toue that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Point, well WHAT.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I want to talk about at this at this juncture
here Is i've been starting to see a lot more
people advocating for violence at this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Point AND i don't go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Real, quick just BEFORE i lose this, thought JUST i
did a quick math theme in my. Head if it's
if you're talking about the supporters and The Republican party
as well as The trump, voters and you said thirty two,
percent that's THE ba.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Bottom, yeah they've never seen it go below fair twenty
four that's twenty four million right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
There that so twenty four million will never lose their
faith in Dal trump won't do. It but here's the, Thing,
uh the pop the state Of california has.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Thirty nine, Million so, wow thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Million Still trump's pun intended that base that will always believe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
In In Donald trump if they show, Up, yes that is.
True if they are not disenfranchised by their own.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Party pretty, true, Man SEE i was trying to For.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
You're like a see Mostly, ELLIOTT i get so much
crap from the right hand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Side you can, cry get. CRAP i get caught out
on the, air beat on them so. BAD i don't.
KNOW i have to take your delusions. DOWN i have
your your you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
If you beat on the on the right hand, side
that's with a with a with a velvet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
GLOVE i. Know but you, know, man anyway you were
making you were about to go into the thinner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Skins sometimes you know it is. There but here's something
THAT i definitely wanted to put. Out there's a lot
of people that talk about AND i Know i'm gonna
get some mail about, This so please send all of
your mail To elliott at.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
W's two l's and To. T's guess.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
WHAT i have yet to get hate mail, Here, REALLY
i have yet to get hate. Mail i've gotten hate,
Calls i've gotten hate text for, easy But i've yet
to get hate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Mail so give me Some. Elliott THAT'S. E. L L I. O.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
T t AT W R M n fourteen ten dot.
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Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Waiting this is this is What I'm I'm i'm debating
on even like bringing up too. Much let's let me
just preface everything in the most absurd click baity headline
THAT i can possibly think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Of with this, Concept it's gonna be. Fun gandhi chose,
VIOLENCE i.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Something there are times WHEN i wish she. Did there
are times WHEN i want. TO i Wanted gandhi to
pull A stone Cold Steve austin AND.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I up class break.

Speaker 14 (01:04:05):
Up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Gandhi my, god he's broken in. Half you know cut
he had.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Didn't have, beer BUT i don't, know Mat gandhi drag
smash it together and then go out there and find
like Some british officer and you Know, stone you, know
do A mahat mus, stunner you, know The mahama masher
or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
That because THERE i can't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
There the problem, IS i cannot but help but Picture
gandhi As Ben, kingsley because that's the role that he
played in the movie and got the oscar, for and
in my, mind he will always look At Ben. Kingsley
even THOUGH i have seen actual photographs of the Actual,
gandhi you'd not think that was not the, same.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Not the same in any kind of. Way but the
truth force is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
THERE I i've been doing a lot of research for
authoritarian governments for, things BECAUSE i, mean if you're gonna
call somebody, something, right you're gonna call some an authoritarian
or a dictator or a fascist or whatever it. Is
If i'm going to use something in even then in
a pejorative type of, MANNER i want to make sure

(01:05:11):
THAT i know what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
A butt heead is BEFORE i call you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
One So i've been doing a lot of research for
authoritarians and the overthrowing of. Authoritarians how do we how
do we take a government that is in that, dictatorship
in that authoritarian or the oligarchical.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Type of side to? Things how do you how do
you change?

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Right i'm sorry to let everyone. Know i'm absolutely sorry
to let everybody. Know historically there has been no authoritarian
government overthrown with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Peace, no never with. Peace.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Never, now the actual, coup the day of the coup
could have been nonviolent or whatever for the everything, else
but everything leading up to, it or every thing for
the threat of or anything like, that there has never
been an authoritarian government overthrown by.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Peace.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
NOW i don't tell you that BECAUSE i want you
to go and start making your own multav cocktails and
whatever pitchforks that you want to carry. Yourself What i'm
telling you is that we need to turn around. Now
if you want, peace and if you want this to
be the way that it is supposed to, be we

(01:06:33):
need to make sure that we are on the right.
Path if we make it to, authoritarian we cannot maintain.
Peace in, FACT i will even bring up our founding,
fathers the ones that wrote the breakup. Letter jefferson himself
said there should be a rebellion every twenty years or

(01:06:57):
so because it is supposed to help help us re
write the ship put it on that. Path and WHEN
i Say gandhi chose, VIOLENCE i. DON'T i don't mean.
That he turned around and said said that we just
need to start punching people in the. Face he himself,

(01:07:18):
said nonviolence is the first article of my. Faith it
is also the last article of my. Creed so nonviolence was?
It that was the way he said. It but here's
WHERE i bring. Up gandhi chose, violence and it is
absolutely mirrored In JOHN. F kennedy And Martin Luther king

(01:07:41):
in the nineteen, sixties forty years later than the way
That gandhi put it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Here he, says where there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Is only a choice between cowardice and, VIOLENCE i would advise.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Violence, elliott what Did gandhi mean? Here, WELL i mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
There's this thing where a lot of times pacifism is
mistaken for, uh, well it's it's it's mistaken for inaction
in the face of. Oppression you, know you might Say
i'm a, pacifist AND i cannot but If i'm a
pacifist and someone's like beating the crap out of me

(01:08:28):
and wanting to rob me and my, family then at
then at point it's not it's not so much pacifism
as you, said it is. Cowardice it's not it's not
like protecting that which is directly. Threatened AND i Know
gandhi delt you, know there's a lot of times it's
we run into the danger of getting into the abstract

(01:08:49):
because things as tremendous as again we throw out terms
like authoritarianism and and and and throwing off the yoke
of oppression and again that's all the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Nice poet stuff that goes. On but because you have
to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Almost grandiloquently about, this because as soon as you, say
we cannot live like this unless we attack these. People,
now now it's an inciting. Violence, now it is literally
inciting violence as opposed to, well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
You, know you could either be a coward or you
could be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Violent you should PROBABLY i don't KNOW i would advise the, latter.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Like BECAUSE i didn't flat out say.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
It, yeah Because, YADI i, mean you, forget there were
people within the system Of india who cooperated with The
British empire and they were a part of that. System
so it wasn't just fighting The British. Empire it was
fighting your. Brothers it was fighting your own countrymen as.
Well and to stand up and, say, okay this is
what we need to. Do or you do not stand

(01:09:50):
up for, this you are being a coward calling his
own countrymen that as, well not just members of The British.
Empire so you, know calling up members of The British.
Empire so, uh and you, know and it's so easy
for us to look back on that now and go oh,
yeah you, know and the abstract because we're so removed from.

(01:10:10):
It and then you, know people will talk, about, Well
Muhamma gandhi was he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Did it was all about peaceful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Resistance it was, like you, know peaceful protest and blah
blah blah or and that's How Martin Luther king brought
about you, know the civil rights you know, era you,
know peaceful. Protests he he didn't stop, traffic he didn't
upset people in the business dick Tric he didn't like
cause riots like, well In.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
March a million people across the, bridge nobody could.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Drive nobody could drive. Out and he didn't do any of.
That what WHAT i mean between him And john The, Apostle,
john they're both writing letters from, prison you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Know BUT i didn't do ANYTHING i, DID i think,
So Thomas jefferson, Says and it's one of my absolute
favorite quotes, too BECAUSE i love the way that The
founding fathers love to put things in front of the. Other,
right is the order in which they said things. Mattered
Thomas jefferson, says the tree of liberty must be refreshed

(01:11:13):
from time to time with the blood of patriots and.
Tyrants WHAT i love about that phrase is the tree
of liberty already has to be. Refreshed he's talking about the.
Challenge he's talking about bringing this in for. Blood refreshed
with blood means, like, look this needs to be at

(01:11:36):
least costly to. Us but the last three words and their,
order patriots and tyrants patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Is first we have to give. Up we have to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Fight we have to bleed for liberty, first before we
could even look at bleeding tyrants or before of attacking,
tyrants we have to look at ourselves as patriots. First James,
madison the advantage Of americans being armed forms a barrier
against the enterprises of. Ambition is that same kind of

(01:12:18):
of side to things with. It so when you talk
About James madison coming in and, saying, look we need
to be able to protect, ourselves And jefferson coming in
and saying we need to be able to fight against,
tyranny is this Where gandhi or even Then kennedy or
any of these people finally got this. Side not the

(01:12:39):
physical blood of a, Revolution but we have to be,
First we have to change. First we have to be
loud enough.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
First you, know it's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
FUNNY i used to think that a lot of you,
know The Second amendment folks are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Like, AH i want to be armed against the, government.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
And you have like the the what's the those rancher
guys who remember they were hold up on their ranch
for the longest, time the government was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Like The, Texas, Yeah, waco Not, waco am In, bundy was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
It oh, yeah, yeah that was a couple of. Years
that was a few years, back but that was way more,
recent way more.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Recent but and then even one of them came out
and they were talking about The Black Lives matter of.
Protests they're, saying, look it's not LIKE i necessarily agree with,
them BUT i understand what they're. Doing and it's to
that point where when The Second amendment WHAT i consider
kind of lunatic people, like BECAUSE i grew up as
an idealist thinking IF i HAD i live in a

(01:13:38):
country WHERE i have a, democracy a representative, government and
IF i have an issue with my, GOVERNMENT i have
the right to a. TRIAL i have the right to
have my my grievances addressed in a court of. LAW
i can do, this, this, this and. This and THEN
i see all that stuff kind of like being pulled
away from people and they're, going, ah, hey you know

(01:14:00):
those guys who are talking about the arming and being
ready to deal with the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
GOVERNMENT i get it. NOW i kind of get, it because.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Do you know why the gun laws are really so
strict In california to begin. With they started becoming strict
in the nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Seventies, oh because you had a lot of black families arming.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Themselves, yes, yes because what was happening is In, california
a lot of families were being, lynched a lot of
black people were being lynched off the. Streets so the
black panthers started arming people to escort people. Around as
soon as that, happened Good Old Ronnie reagan was, like
m people can't be walking around with guns. Now and

(01:14:38):
so it's one of those issues that power will try
to keep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Power AND i get.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
IT i would much rather, Now american, Citizens i'll give
you the benefit of the doubt all. Day american, citizens
you're with, Me you're my. People we're. Here there is
a kernel of good in every Single american that's out
there until you become a. Politician and then as soon
as you become a, politician my default is that you

(01:15:11):
are trying to screw me with every single piece that
you possibly. Can, now you want to prove me wrong
by all, means prove me. Wrong but until THEN i
have to for my own, SAFETY i have to admit
that you are the worst thing in the entire.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
World when we talk about the term politics and, politician
and people, say keep your politics out of, this OR
i don't want to talk, politics when politics in general
is people talking about the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Rules of society that we that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Politics if YOU i don't like my politics in keep
politics out of my beer, commercial all, Right, well, okay
show me a beer commercial that actually has actual. Politics
if if you, think let's, say a trans person representing
your brand is, politics you're, fine guess what that. Is

(01:16:07):
you're you have an issue with representation and that's something
that we.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Need to discuss in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Society so what people, SAY i don't like, politics it's
gotten to that point now where like we we don't
discuss politics and kind in in polite, company blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Blah but it shouldn't be that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Way so but it's because the problem now is to your,
point And i've talked about this before it is With,
davides is that the political process has turned into. Theater
it's turned into into getting people riled. Up and the
politicians themselves don't even believe half the stuff they, say
and it's just to play to a particular base to

(01:16:48):
get something out of. Them and that's, why as you,
say you guys want a. POLITICIAN i think you're trying
to screw. Me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
YEAH i have to take The machavellian approach to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
It that, is absolute power corrupts absolutely unless You're, superman, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Exactly and even then he's supposed to be what we're
all supposed to, be The, ubermensch where the last man
turns around and, goes what is this H speaking of
that as, well another one from the nineteen, sixties Doctor
Martin Luther king, said a riot is the language of the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Unheard stick around and hear. Us after this.

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That the one time you had to come in BECAUSE
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It's Because i'm up all night reading The constitution is
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Rights it's just it's my favorite. Book there we go and,
Welcome welcome to The Second amendment hour. Everybody that's what
this show has sounded like for the last home.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Right it's, there you, know It's i'm trying not to
be SO i guess down for. Things it's it's hard
when you can see it a little bit. More it's
hard when you can can look and, go, well this
seems to be the same pattern as, this, this and

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this from this era or when this leader made that,
decision this is how it turned out for their.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
People like it's a lot of. Things we.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Live WHAT i like about politics is we live in.
History we are we are literally watching history happen as it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
GOES i am so tired of living an unprecedented times right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Now, yes it's the it's the old what is, it
the Old chinese curse of may you live in interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Times? Yeah That's can we go back to? BORING i
like the boring, times thank.

Speaker 8 (01:24:08):
YOU i.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
DO i want politics to be boring, again because when
politics is, boring things have at least the appearance of
working the way that they're supposed. To, now we can't
always just turn around and be, like, ah you know,
what it's always worked, forever which it. Hasn't but my
issue is is we've never Had we've never had anybody

(01:24:32):
or any party turn around and just start systematically dismantling.
Things this is What i'm starting to see is just
the constant ticking, away the the constant.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Just chip chip chip chip.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Chip let me pull this, thing let me adjust, this
let me set this piece, here so that thing it's
it's gone beyond brinksmanship and it's gotten to the point
where it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Budsmanship.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
YEAH i mean, yes but let us also acknowledge That
america has not, ever in any time been a perfect. Nation,
no there was a time when The Supreme court ruled
against slaves because several of.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
The Supreme court justices were slave.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Owners it wasn't even that long ago when the redlining
even the city Of chicago on their most segregated cities
in the, Country because there was a time and there's
still bits of this out there where it was. Illegal
And i'm not saying within one hundred, Years i'm talking
within the Last for fifty, years sixty or, years you

(01:25:44):
could a black person could not buy a house in particular.
Neighborhoods it was you were not allowed to sell them a.
House there was a time when you could go to
jail for teaching a minority how to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Read so.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
This country has always been, imperfect AND i think a
lot of times where we, stuff we take, forward we
take two. BACK i think what's happening now is now
there's a new minority that's being hurt by, everything and
in this case it is it's the trans. Community the
trans community is now the. Boogeyman these are the ones
that we need to be afraid. Of these are the

(01:26:19):
ones that we need to keep in. Check and of
course we always have the immigrants there, too because we
have the you, know we have that that a school
janitor who's also a member OF ms. Thirteen so we
got to go there and you, know kick him out
of the. Country so my point to that is, that
And i'm trying to buck myself up. Here things have

(01:26:39):
been bad, before things that even there were times when
this system was unfair, before and there's always been someone
in this country who has been hurt by the system
as it. Is that's where the term woke comes. From
the term woke comes from acknowledging the unfairness of the.
System but then when enough pece people started realizing, that

(01:27:02):
they had to turn that into a. Pejorative SO i
want to believe as things are, now as things if
we were going to take a couple of steps, back
AND i know they're im. Focusing oh you're being dramatical
this whole, thing, Folks you do.

Speaker 15 (01:27:16):
NOT i don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
THINK i THINK i had this conversation With David t's
we had the soft. Air the way our government is right,
now the way things have been kind.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Of pulled, apart something really bad is going to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Happen we're going to have either a, disaster or it's
going to be a terrorist, attack or it's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Just going to be something something really really.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Bad that for the longest time we were able to
catch in advance because we had very competent people and
a very reliable system in. Place because we've gone in
and we've torn the guts out of, everything something, really
really bad is going to. Happen and that's when we
either fold our tents and give up and fall to

(01:28:00):
despair As i've been doing this whole, show or we
get ourselves together and we rally and we, Say, okay
we need to fix, this but we also need to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Understand people will need to be held. Accountable, Yes AND
i think a lot of that is we're not holding anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Accountable somebody messes something, up we, go, oh you know,
what they did their best for, it or they don't
do the thing that we want them, to and are they.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Blame we'll blame that somebody else is not even an.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Office, well and to you to your, point especially about
the trans, community for it, is all of these communities, exist,
right AND i think they take the idea that these micro,
communities not even minority, communities microscopic, communities and they just
get blown up out of, proportion as if the one

(01:28:50):
in eight people are this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Person if you look at all of.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
The, athletes the tens of thousands OF nc DOUBLE a athletes.
Leads there are about ten trans athletes in. There so
we are going to spend months and months and months
talking about ten people because that is the, distraction and we're.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Going to talk about the.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Child that's transitioning from male to. Female we don't want
them in, males we want them don't want them in female.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Sports. Ah but if there's a female who's transitioning to, male,
oh that's.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Fine or if there's a female that wants to play male, sports,
right you've got that side.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Too So.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
I'm just, saying we said this, before it's a distraction
to get us away from the things and this is
a sad.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Part it's a distraction to get us away from the
things that can be. Fixed they can be. FIXED i mean,
again like a healthcare like they've been talking About medicaid for, All,
WELL i don't want. THAT i don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Paying for somebody else's. UP i don't want to be
paying for somebody else's health. Care guess, what you're already doing.
It when you pay for, premiums you're also paying for
somebody else's health.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Care you're not just paying for.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
You that's why the, government that's why this private health
insurance company is doing everything they can to keep you
keep from paying for your things because they already took
your money and then use it somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Else this is where for, me this is where the
first party that decides to take an actual populist turn will.
Win that's the way it. Goes AND i absolutely agree with, You,
john he is absolutely. Wasted AND i agree that The
morning show is purposely. DUMB i agree on both.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
COUNTRAS i like being dumb in the. Morning this Is,
John thank, You. John i'm taking that as a.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Compliment but also that IF i had to talk like
this all the time on the morning, Show, no if you,
would you would have, listened BE i wouldn't want to
do it because they'd be, like, no, please.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
This show right here used to be at ten. O'clock
they don't like, It, john they don't like. IT i
like this. Show that's not like being on this. Show
so they moved me all the way over. Here so it's.
Okay when you get, syndicated it'll be. Something can we
syndicate the morning? Show you got to stop talking about

(01:31:20):
The Fox River. Valley that's the only. Thing you can't
syndicate local. Programming ah, No, okay that's. FINE i LOVE
i love MY i love My Fox River. Valley, okay that's.
Fine forget.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
That And, so this is my issue with it is
is why are we focusing on all of these culture
wars WHEN i can turn around and, say you know,
what eighty percent Of americans want? This eighty percent Of
americans want. That, okay, yeah it might be ninety percent
on the left and eighty or seventy something percent on the,

(01:31:52):
right but the majority Of. Americans you want to get
people off the couch to go to go and. Vote
not looking at, you Jd. Vance you stay exactly where
you are. Couch fair, enough is What i've.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Heard this is so, though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
My issue is is if you want to mobilize, people
you want to get those people, Out you want to
break this thirty percent type of. Thing when can we
get an approval rating for a president over fifty?

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Percent? Right it's craziness that we can't get to.

Speaker 17 (01:32:26):
That so.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Why focus on writing legislation for ten people when you
can write legislation for one hundred million? People that's my
issue with. This you put out a legislation that takes
out just an easy one for all of us banning

(01:32:49):
private equity from buying up housing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Stock just that that's not a policy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Issue that's not a, well you, know higher, wages what
you can it? Be, no ban private equity from buying
large housing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Stock that's.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
It it's a big. No it goes right across the.
Board and over seventy percent of All americans want. This
but we're going to look at the legal tiny group
of people that happen to play volleyball and have different.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Genitals it's craziness. Here it. WAS i was trying to
pull myself out of this. Despair you keep knocking me in.
THERE i keep knocking you into. It because the, Parties,
man it's both.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
PARTIES i haven't heard a single party turn around and
say banning private. Equity what they, Said Kamala, harris what
she turned around and said was.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
To make you competitive with those.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Jerks i'm going to give you twenty five thousand, dollars
but not twenty five thousand dollars in your, pocket twenty
five thousand dollars off of your. Taxes who what first
time home buyer is out there struggling that has twenty
five thousand dollars in?

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Taxes are you? Kidding, ME i legit thought you were
going to drop an. Fbomb, yes then, like, YEAH i
think you caught. Yourself oh, man are you kidding? Me,
No you're right about. That that's WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Mean AND i know who is the populist? Party who
is actually For america, now not who's going to do the,
worst the most damage or the least. Damage who actually
fights for?

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Us now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
It's okay to say no, One, Superman, Superman i'll Take superman.

Speaker 7 (01:34:36):
ALL i.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
HAD i known THAT i was, going, okay If i'm
on the board right, now LIKE i would be on
the morning, SHOW i would have already you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Would have shut me off. Already, no, no, NO i
would have already called up the princess bride bit where
where were? You the pit of? Despair just because that's
WHERE i am right. Now so that's WHO i feel.
LIKE i feel like that witch or that nasty Woman.

Speaker 18 (01:35:03):
Babe bob go on voute for, him vouts for The
king of, Refuge like this is HOW.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
I feel about this two party system, here because no
matter how much The american people scream about this, stuff
we cannot get anybody to. Listen and which is WHY
i brought up my moral compass here Of gandhi And

(01:35:38):
madison And JOHN. F kennedy And Martin Luther King junior
and all of these people that are supposed to be
the non. Violent let's sit, down let's make sure everything
goes and then all of a, sudden it's, like, well you,
know in nineteen sixty, Seven Martin Luther king, says the
riot is the language of the. Unheard, well, HECK i

(01:36:00):
really feel unheard right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Now and So i'm not, Again i'm not trying to advocate.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Violence What i'm trying to do is set up a
warning that if we cannot get them to listen to,
us this is what is going to.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Happen it's The, guillotines The French. Revolution, YEAH i hate
to speaking hyperbolic. Terms vote AND i have a tremendous
respect for people who run for office and who represent
us in the, state on the state, level on the federal,
levels the, level the local.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Level and the city.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Council you're looking at, Township you're looking at all of
those people.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
There but there is a level, here AND i know
people on the local level are getting the brunt of
it because of things that are happening on the national.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Level game let's call a spade a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
Spade Republican party right now has done a very poor
job of managing its. Brand And i'm talking as a
marketing person The Republican, party and you talk to folks
that a local level to talk To, Davites, Republican, yes
a Reasonable. REPUBLICAN i can talk To davites. Reasonably he
AND i disagree on things he. Likes he likes to

(01:37:11):
needle me with his wearing A trump shirt from time to,
Time but he does it to needle, me just LIKE
i wore My obama shirt the other day to needle.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
Him that's because you guys talk face to, face not
just online.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Exactly, yeah you, know Snowflaken and AND i want to believe.
THAT i believe That davides sincerely respects my point of,
view just LIKE i sincerely respect his point of. View
but the problem is that's not what's up. Up that's
the exception to the, rule if you ask, me there's
a lot of stuff uptap that's filtering down and it's

(01:37:42):
affecting local, politics and it's keeping, people even on a local,
level from having these truly sincere and necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Conversations and if if someone In washington if this message
gets to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
THEM i want to, desperately desperately ask our federal, representatives
people In, washington our state, senators our state OUR us,
representatives The, president, please for the love Of, god.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Listen yes you're not, listening and something really bad is
on the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Horizon it might be coming from the, inside it might
be coming from the, outside but please don't ignore what's
happening right, now because it's like everyone feels they're like that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Frog they say the. Thing if you want to get
a frog to sit in a pot of boiling, water
turn it off. Slowly actually that's not.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
True the frogs will jump, out the frogs getting ready to,
jump and it's not going to be pretty when it.
Does AND i say that with tremendous respect and love
and admiration for my Fellow, americans and Both republicans And
democrats and liberal and conservative and independence. Folks we need

(01:38:58):
to start listening to each, other because if we're not
listening to each, other it's we're going to take yet
another step.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Back and AND i just don't want to be. RIGHT
i don't want to be.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
RIGHT i don't, know AND i don't want to be
the guy who read the history books before they were.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Published, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Yep That's that's my biggest issue right now is we
are looking at everything that is. Happening IF i told
you That Joe biden fired the director of The Bureau
Labor statistics because he did not like the, numbers your

(01:39:34):
head would.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Explode for folks who you know Who i'm talking, to
your head would. Explode but here's the. Thing there are
a lot of folks out there who don't have a
problem with. That And i'm telling you right, now if
you don't have a problem with, That, okay you don't
have a problem with, it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Fine you know who does have a problem with?

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
It, Businesses, yes businesses who are going to now start
be making decisions on numbers that they can't, trust on
numbers that they're always going to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Doubt and that's. It it's gonna it's gonna be a.
Feedback you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Talk about, volatility you want to talk about, futures you
want to talk about all of the different things for
the stock.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Market.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Yep you have decided over the last thirty years that
everybody's retirement was going to be put on to a
fictitious type of feelings meter that we all get to
keep track, of and then you all decided that you
were going to pull out every single thing that was
solid that kept it. Moving because those who make peaceful

(01:40:28):
revolution impossible will make violent revolution. Inevitable That's JOHN. F,
kennedy a, president said. That and this is the warning
THAT i have for people that will not. Listen when
you are so out of touch that you think giving

(01:40:51):
a poor middle class twenty five thousand dollars off of
their taxes when they made that much money that, year.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
You aren't. Listening and if you're not going to, listen
then riots are the voice of the.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Unheard and for folks who THINK i have a liberal
bent AND i will never criticize A. Democrat Brandon johnson
was just on The score today talking about how they're
trying to figure out a way to keep The bears
In chicago because they want to do a stadium with
benefit the city Of.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Chicago blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Blah and he went on there and he talked about, how,
oh we have all this money that can only be
used for.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Stadium that's what it's there. For it's only for. That
i'm they're going you're closing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Schools, yes you're saying that you need to cut back
on police because you don't have the money for them
and not but you have all this money to build.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
A stadium for a football. Team but don't get me,
WRONG i love The.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
Bears we're carrying them. HERE i would love The bears
to benefit have all the benefit of having your own
private stadium where they can all the money they want
and do all that and out here In Arlington, heights
Because i'll tell you it'd be a lot easier for
me to get to a Game Arlton. HEIGHTS i am
looking forward to The Arlington Heights.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Bears, yeah that would be, amazing way closer to the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Broadcast, so oh, my we can tailgate a lot. Easier that's.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
It so in the last couple of minutes that we've got,
Here i've got six popular ideas which won if the,
like wasn't? It who was the the lady from The
carolinas that was running for? President why CAN i remember her?

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
NAME i know who you're talking, about BUT i can't
remember her.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
Name they had talked about the first person that starts
running on on just populist sides are going to win
the first she, said, specifically the first candidate for the
first party.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
That puts a non a non old white guy there will.
Win so here's the Thing i'm gonna. Play, well just
as long as it's not a, woman they won't they
won't vote for a woman. PERSON i, mean we're the
only we're the only nation in that planet who can't
women tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
That i've had women tell me that they are too
emotional and they didn't vote for a.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
While have you seen what the men are?

Speaker 18 (01:43:13):
Doing?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Yeah are you kidding? Me they're not any? Better you
complain about the patriarch.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Was Pete heggs has to get up there and start
whining at the, press at the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Press but go.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
On, So i've got six, things six. Things you tell
me which one of THESE i can build a party
of populism off? Of here we, go higher, wages paid family,
leave ending, wars negotiating prescription drug, prices removing big money from,

(01:43:47):
politics or banning private equity from buying up large housing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Stock which one of?

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
These which poll each one of these pull over seventy
percent with All?

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
America which one of these AM i building the party off.
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none of, Them none of. Them what AM i. Doing
it's too abstract for the Average.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
American even even IF i just, said, hey banning private
equity from buying up large.

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Housings at one, Point i'm gonna want to be. RICH
i want to work for private. Equity my, gosh are
you kidding? Me for every every, ARGUMENT i got a
counter argument removing big money from. Politics that they talk
about that all the.

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Time that the problem is is That Citizens united has
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we could live there quite, happily quite some.

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can follow in the dun in a tank full of.
Paranhas they're not you'll be, okay you're not going to
go after.

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been actively trying not to attack and inform as honestly
and kindly AS i can on social.

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MEDIA i am, tired boss.

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Lady CAN i, SAY i see, YOU i feel, YOU
i recognize. You that's WHY i deleted A facebook from my.

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Phone Oh i'll get out of.

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WHAT i don't need that. Anymore too much doom. Scrolling
reddit's way. Better, yeah, nah even don't Even i'll look
at A reddit page on the on the On, chrome
and Then i'll, say.

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No thank, you, no thank.

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You i'm on MY i think four hundred and twentieth
day streak on On. Reddit i'm gonna get a badge. Eventually,
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