Free Speech Panel 3-21 Hr2

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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hello fellow Americans, and good day to our friends around
the world. This is our two of a political talk show.
Thanks a lot for being here. We see Jeff, we
see Dean, we see the Dutchman, Sup Pat, Tom, Andrew Matt,
all of these different people that have jumped on to

(00:53):
the YouTube stream throughout the day. We really appreciate you
jumping in and being a part of WRMN. It is
Free Speech Friday. My name is Dennis Son R. Green.
I will be moderating the Free Speech Friday panel. Less
introduce our contestants. We've got Elliott Serrano, Chicago's King of Geeks,

(01:16):
trademarked self declared, but no one's argued yet. It's not
self declared.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It was given to me.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
The title was given WGN right, w WSCR, Oh, okay, WSCR.
When he's not defending the multiverse from bad comic takes,
Elliot moonlights as a pop culture pundit, wg in geek
whisperer and the only person who can make Star Wars
discourse sound like Shakespeare. He has rumored to have said,

(01:47):
I came here to chew bubblegum and correct your opinions
on the Snyder cut and I'm all about I'm all
out of bubblegum.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
And the opinion is, if you like that, you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Cecilia Brooks, Caine County's voice of reason and probably the
only one reading the meeting agenda. Cecilia brings public sector
polish to every panel and enough calm to survive Facebook
comment threads without losing her humanity. She has been quoted
rumored to have said, I believe in the freedom of speech,

(02:24):
but not the freedom from side. I win. You say
something ridiculous. David T's defender of the Constitution, barbecue enthusiast
and Caine County GOP's political GPS. David's the guy who
can quote the founding fathers and grill estake to perfection,
all while planning precinct strategy. He has also been rumored

(02:50):
to have said, if Thomas Jefferson had a Facebook page,
he'd probably be in Facebook jail by now. Thank you
panel for being here.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I like how you transition from saying something ridiculous to Davites.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's it there, hey, Free speech Friday Panel. Traditional alarm
clocks have largely been replaced by smartphones, offering convenience and
multiple functions in one device. However, experts in sleep hygiene
are sounding the alarm. Using phones at bedtime is linked

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to sleep disruption due to blue light exposure, late night notifications,
and increased screen time. Meanwhile, the resurgence of analog or
minimalist digital alarm clocks speak to a growing market seeking
tech boundaries and better sleep. The debate pits convenience and

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efficiency against mental health and rest quality. The Sleep Foundation
in twenty twenty three has said keeping your phone out
of the bedroom might be the single best thing you
can do for your sleep. We'll start with you, Cecilia.
Is the convenience of smartphone alarms worth the potential cost

(04:14):
to sleep quality?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
No, it never is. So what I do.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
I put both of my phones on, do not Disturb on,
vibrate volume down, and yes, both of my phones, And
then I do I put them away from my head
because I've heard about the radiation near your face.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's not good for you.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
And also there's no reason that's when you should be
texting or calling me that late at night.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well, sometimes I need to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
You can't talk right now.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
So I do have alarm on my Alexa five point
forty five. She wakes me up by playing perfect Day
and then she says, good morning, gorgeous, you look great today,
and then she like goes through my morning routine and
I wake up with the sun too.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
So wow, Dave, is that pretty much an alarm clock
at that point? Having your Alexa do it for you
or you just like nope, like the one that's at
the hotel that screams at you when you, uh you
don't have it.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
You're making some alarm clock. Guys that used to build
them back in the day really upset right now. Guys
they lost their jobs because of the smartphones. But I
actually keep uh mine by my bed because I could
have an emergency service call which I don't want to answer,
you know, or somebody can butt dial you at three
o'clock in the morning. I wouldn't know who that is.

(05:36):
It wasn't me but my wife.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
You know you're listening. I'm so sorry, Sam.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I don't even know who buttles on my iPhone, So
I apologize.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't go to sleep with
it still. You put me to sleep and look at stuff. Yeah,
it bothers me, It keeps me up, and then you
just get more and more intrigued and next thing you know,
you find out it's two o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You don't fall asleep and have it fall on your face.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
But yeah, so, but I do use it for an
alarm clock. It's it's comedian. I don't have one. It's
because everything we're plugging in now electricity, alarm clocks, cell
phones and Wi Fi boxes, xboxes, PlayStation. My electric bill's
gone up over the last twenty years.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Is that why my commad bill is so high?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Your meters out there going shit?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Have to switch your solar?

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Sorry, talking about lots of money, Elliott.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Do you like the traditional alarm clock where it wakes
up to Sonny and share every single morning from your babe? Yes?

Speaker 6 (06:37):
I do.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I love that plus but I mean, mind you, I
do not use my phone. I have a rooster. Oh
my rooster wakes me up every morning and it's wonderful
and he just pranceiss. If I don't wake up, he
picks at my eyelids to wake up. Come on, dude,
a hitchock pretty much.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Doesn't your dog wake you up like my dog yet?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yes, my dog is named Rooster.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
For those who have dogs that wanted that insist on
going out the same time, even when the daylight savings
kicks in and you lost that hour, they don't care.
Get way, excuse me, it's five o'clock in the morning
for you. Now, well I still think it's six. You know, yes,
you you need to get me out.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I don't know if you were there for the vote
or not, but we all decided that it's six o'clock now.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So we're getting you were waking up, and you're getting
me out.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
So, speaking of those clocks, do we prefer digital or analog?
What about the ones on your wrist? Digital or analog?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Analog?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Okay, smart maybe no?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Classic.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
My watch is charging, so I'm the one that didn't have.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
That's my thing. Well, that's my thing. I used to
be a real watch person, like I have tons of
so many watches, and then the battery would run out
and then I'm like, now I got to go to
the watch shop to get them to change the battery,
and that becomes a whole deal. So I just get
a new watch, and then I bought I've I've taken
the the dive on a couple like cheap smart watches.

(08:05):
But it's the same thing again. So yeah, it's funny though.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Those batteries die in like a couple of days. You do,
You're getting another one after three days charge.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But but it's funny. If you come to my house
you will see I have both. I have digital and
big analog clocks. Like I have a big analog clock
in my dining room that I end up looking at
all the time I have. I can ask my Alexa
to tell me what time it is, but no, I
just look at the big clock.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
There you go, David, I like digital because I hit
the snooze button, hit the snooze button, hit the snooze.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
But oh that's true. There's no real, real snooze for
the analog. Still the bells back and.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Forth, Elliott, you probably have a swatch, don't you remember those.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Watch?

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Watch?

Speaker 5 (08:51):
You know how much those are? Word now?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Have the original ones? Yeah? Remember the little slack bands watches?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, you go and had those two classic watches. Never
go of style.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
And I can swim up to down to fifty meters
or one hundred meters.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Or wow, clearly I watch you know, Lifeguard.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
So Cilia doesn't know what a swatch is. You might
want to look those up.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
You awome in Woodfield, there was a Swatch store when
I was growing up.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Do they Are they out of business now?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I think so. I don't think they're around much.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Are you Seriously? I should have jumped on that opportunity when.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I haven't seen the stores.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
At least I saw them on storage wars. They found
them in storage there.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know, we found the last watches for.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Folks, for folks who are wondering. If you're really young,
you don't know Swatch. This was actually a company. They
made colorful watches. They were supposed to be a stylish
and the word Swatch was was a condensing Swiss watch.
So that's where you get the word Swatch.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
There it is, Wendy, says Sonar And to your panel
of guests, good show to listen to. Thank you, Wendy,
Thank you Wendy.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
And you do know that I've been right about everything.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
So let's just for those at home, it's so far,
so far.

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The second.

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There it is? Hey. When we come back for more
a political talk show, we will talk about the guard rails,
the tensions between the executive branch and the judiciary. Are
we seeing the breakdown of due process? Are we seeing
the constitutional crisis that everyone is saying that we are

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in the panel will discuss that when we come back
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Speaker 1 (14:10):
Welcome back to a political talk show here on w
r MN. My name is Dennis Sonar Green the Annihilator
comes in and says, can you ask Dave if he's
come to his senses about our fantasy football trade? See
I told you, David, I told you that we should
get ads about people just calling each other out. Go ahead, sir,

(14:35):
it's your trade. Did you do you want it? What's
the Sorry?

Speaker 5 (14:38):
I'll do this an the air officially. Sorry, John, I
am not going to make the trade now, you guys,
your answer and you can stop.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
It to me official.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm just curious what the trade was.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
He wants Jalen Hurts for. He wants Jalen Hurts from me.
He wants to give me two number ones and Tua
the quarterback in Miami.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I would take that. I do not expect Jalen Hurts
they have this same kind of year next year.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, okay, it leads me down to Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
But that's all for quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well, Lamar Jackson's good and Tua is not going to
have a great year either.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Two, I'd be surprised to finishes the year.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
You're gonna make the Sports Guy Saturday.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
But for the two. Number one though, that's I think
that's a good I think I would if it was me,
I would take that trade Annihilator, just so you know,
And so just so you know, folks, I have been
right so far, this whole, this whole show. And if
you decide not to go with it, mark just down Annihilator.
Watch if he regrets it later you get to come

(15:40):
on the air and say, hey, Elliott, you were right
then too. She maybe kind of.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Left, but at least today he's pretty right.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
There you go, good one.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
How long are you?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
At least I'm ahead of my time.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I saw the draft like two weeks ago. Okay, let's
talk a little bit about some tensions. We are way
too chummy around here, Tensions between the executive branch and
the judiciary. Let's try that one again. Judiciary have been

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reoccurring theme in the political history of the United States,
not just currently. These tensions arise from a system of
checks and balances enshrined in the US Constitution designed to
prevent any one branch of government from exercising unchecked power.
A few times these things have happened. Andrew Jackson, in

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response to the Supreme Court's decision of were Chester versus Georgia,
which favored the Native Americans territorial rights. President Jackson reportedly
defied the ruling, highlighting the limitations of the judiciary and
enforcing its decisions without the executive support. Roosevelt, frustrated by

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the Supreme Court's opposition to his new dear Field programs,
proposed the Judiciary Processes Reform of nineteen thirty seven, aiming
to expand the number of justices. This is known as
court packing today. And Truman. During the Korean War, President
Truman attempted to seize control of steel mills to avert

(17:19):
a strike, citing national security concerns. The Supreme Court, in
Youngstown Sheet and Tube Company versus Sawyer both in nineteen
fifty two, ruled against him, stating that he had overstepped
his executive authority. Today we've got more coming. In the
defiance of the court orders, the Trump administration faced allegations

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of ignoring court injunctions, notably in cases involving deportations and
immigration policies. We've also seen the president's public disparagement of
judges who ruled against the policies, including calls for impeachment,
which drew rebukes from judas issue figures including Chief Justice Roberts,

(18:03):
and the challenges to judiciary authority the administration's efforts to
limit the power of those federal judges, such as advocating
for restrictions on nationwide injunctions. We'll start with you, mister
T's is this just history as normal that we're going

(18:23):
through right now or is this an absolute challenge of
the other branches.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
It's actually both, because back in the day's, you're gonna
get challenged no matter who you are, what job you do. Okay,
But with Trump sending back those Venezuelan gang members to
El Salvador, and then it went to the courts, but
we were already into plane and all that stuff, and

(18:50):
so these are people that are murderers and killers and
alleged alleged Okay, allegend, this.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Is this is where the new process.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
The alleged into there. But in my person opinion is
if these judges and these people want them back into
this country, then they should go stay at their house.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
That's the way I look at it, because if these
people are these what they're saying they are, If they are,
how do we do you want them in your neighborhood?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
You Well, my biggest thing, I think I don't mean
to necessarily cut you off for it, but I guess
I do mean to because what I think this illustrates
is that there that there is not the presumption of
innocence in this There's no public facing allegations. There's not

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even a private court hearing. This is the Secretary of
State or Homeland Security or anybody just pointing and saying
that's a terrorist. And I think, I think, honestly, that's
where I find a little bit of the pushback for it. Now,
as far as going against the judges and everything like that,
I think we still need to have due process with

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what we're doing. But you're absolutely right, if these people
are who they say they or that the government says
they are then absolutely this is what needs to happen
with it. I agree with you on ed Yeah, yeah, Cecilia,
your thoughts on this.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
So as a traditional conservative and large and hardcore constitutionalist,
I would say that I take issue a little bit
with the pushback on the checks and balances. I mean,
we have checks and balances for a reason. And I
and while just because this has happened in history previously
does not It didn't make it okay then, and I

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wouldn't say that it makes it okay now. And I
think that we need to be abiding by and we
have the Constitution for a reason. We need to be
abiding by those checks and balances. We literally have that
for a reason. And if I think that if it were,
for example, a Supreme Court overreach, then people would have
an issue. If we had a legislative overreach, then people
would have an issue. But I don't think it should
be defended simply because.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Of who is sitting at the top, who is sitting
in the office.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
And I would say that if it were a Democrat,
absolutely so, even with the Republican administration, I think that
we need to be abiding by the constitution otherwise we
start getting into unchartered and potentially dangerous territory.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Do you think the checks and balances are part of
our systems due process?

Speaker 12 (21:17):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Having those checks and balances.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yes, And I think that is the most important. Honestly,
I think that's the most important thing and aspect of
the United States government are those checks and balances, because
that's what creates a democratic republic and a constitutional republic.
That is the most important thing we need to adhere
and protect the end. That's really what I pledged personally,
my loyalty to the United States Constitution, no matter who

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sits in the over office.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Elliott, despite them being the fanciest dressed of all of
the three branches. The judiciary does not have any teeth.
The Congress has the power of the purse, the executive
has the power of the army, and the judiciary has
the power of the powdered Wig. And if I was

(22:05):
going to play army wallet Wig, I don't think WIG
would win too often.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, well, let's see. It's funny because Wig has kind
of set us up though for this when you really
think about it. I mean, there was the ruling that
pretty much the president can do anything in office, and yeah,
you know, and and that's where you set up this
this whole idea. Okay, now we're going to test the
power of the executive office to its limits. We're going

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to just push it, push it, push it. It's like
it's even to the part now where with the executive office,
they're not even saying it's not that we don't want
to it's not that we don't want to obey. You know,
listen to the judiciary. It's just that they told us
too late, and now it's already you know, it's already
been done. You taught, you said this, you didn't write
it down. If you're told the sooner, maybe we would

(22:57):
have done this or that, when we all know that's
not really the case. As for the thing about due process,
it amazes me that there is this idea out there that, Okay,
we're just gonna accept what the government says. The government's
gonna say, hey, you know what, you're a terrorist. We're
shipping you off to El Salvador. Oh you're a gang member,

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we're shipping you out. And everyone's like, yeah, okay, the
government said it. I guess I guess they're right. I'm
just gonna go up put.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Up with it now. I understand that sentiment, and we
will dive a little bit more into that due process
and the executive ruling theory or the executive there's a
theory out there where the executive is the leader and
all of the other branches kind of just fall in line.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's how they're acting.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, more a political talk show after.

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Speaker 1 (27:53):
I'll take ste Welcome back to a political talk show

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Learn how to turn bulls and other woodworking things to
do with your hands. He also comes in and says, Republicans,
why did you vote this guy in? I wonder how
how many of the Republicans have bailed from the party already.
We're starting to see a fissier I believe, in both parties.

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And to discuss a little bit of that, we brought
on the Free Speech Friday panel and maybe we get
into that as we talk about this unitary executive theory.
Let's start with that side of it first. Do we
think panel that the executive branch is starting to get

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in snowball more power than it should have. Yes, yes,
we got one. Yes, anybody else all right.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, definitely, But mind you didn't that start with this?

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Of course snowball, and as it stands right now, as
it stands right now, not not as in like it's
a power grab right now, it's been a power grab
from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Been a bit.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
As a Republican well as a traditional conservative and constitutionalist,
I will be the first to be outspoken and say
that I am.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I'm very, very worried.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I can I tell you something. On the other side,
I love it because when when when the Democrats get
their guy in there, Oh man, we're gonna be We're
gonna run rough shots.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
From college for everybody.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
We're gonna have abortions on every corner.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
My prediction is that the Democratic and Republican parties will
not last.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Neither parties will last four.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Parties in twenty forty.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm telling you that's not that's actually that's that's not
as far off as some people might want to.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
I really, I really don't think that either party is
going to make it completely through this administration. I honestly,
I'm worried that America won't make it through this administration.
And that is coming from somebody on the right.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, And I think there's a lot of people that
hold that sentiment right now. And I don't think it's
a I don't think it's a chicken little. The sky
is falling, sky is falling. The way I put it
is when I hop on the highway and it says Milwaukee,
I mean not be going towards Milwaukee. There's going to
be times that I can get off in any exit, right,

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That's what everybody says. You can get off in any exit.
But if I don't get off of the exits, I
will end up in Milwaukee. So that's I think the
way that I kind of frame this is the reason
I don't get stabbed in dark alleys is I don't
go down dark alleys. So the reason I don't end
up in Milwaukee is eventually I turn off to get

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away from it.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
I would encourage everyone who is listening and watching to
read between the lines, to really do your research, to
look at the history, because I'm not gonna lie. We've
seen this movie, We've read this book. I know how
this starts, and I'm afraid that I know how it's
going to end as well, and those who forget history
are doomed to repeat it if.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
We don't get off the track. Right. That's that's the
I think the clause that we're not putting out there. Yes,
I think that's really it is. All the people who
are saying gloom and doom is like, hold on a second.
That's if we don't correct or if the system doesn't correct,
because that's what we're talking about due process here, right,
mister T's Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
I mean the executive orders and him doing this is uh,
if we've been watching the same thing over and over
and over again for way too many years, and if
it's good for the country, then yes, I agree with it.
And I'm not just saying that, but we actually, uh,
we got to change some things. And what are you
starting to say to the rise of the tea parties

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coming back here?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
You know?

Speaker 5 (32:31):
As a purple shirts? That's what he got read, and
then I'll start the purple shirts.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Purple shirts.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, I do like to wear.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Purple shirts, especially when I'm goffing right there right there
in the middle.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Unitary executive theory posits that the US Constitution grants the
president complete control over the executive branch, asserting that all
executive power resides solely within the president. This interpretation emphasizes
that the president cident has the authority to direct, supervise,
remove all executive branch officials without the interference of the

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legislative branch. It also goes on to say that anything
within the scope of the president is also part of everything.
There sounds pretty nice at the end of the day,
for it. They take it from the vesting clause in
Article two. The clause states that the executive power shall
be vested in the President of the United States of America,

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and also an Article two Section three, the clause of
the take care clause, the President shall take care that
the laws be faithfully executed. In the Federalist papers, Alexander
Hamilton frequently referenced to the Bolster theory that argued for
a single energetic executive, stating that the unified executive is

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essential for accountability to the effective governance. Energy in the
executive is a leading character in the definition of good government.
Should Congress lead the government or should we have more
of a hands on executive that kind of makes the

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decisions and everybody else kind of follows in line to
make it legal after it happens. Should that be the flow, Elliott,
or should we take it from Congress first? And then
the other two branches are the checks and balances.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, I mean, it's my understanding that Congress is the
representative of the nation, right, That's why you get the
power of the purse is in the Congress. So let's
say the Congress disagrees with what the president wants to do.
That's why they there are things like veto's and veto overrides.
If if the Congress doesn't like, you know, us going

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to war, well you know, we're just not going to
fund that war. If you know, the president says we
need to do this sort of program where we're not
going to fund it. Yeah, it's the president can't make laws,
I guess is a thing. You know he can say
there should be a law he cannot He or she. Hopefully,
at one point we will have a woman as a president.
I mean, maybe I'm sitting next to the future. Remember

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when when they send me off to Guantanamo. I'm gonna
call you, all right, So.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm gonna call you, whether you're a president or not. Hey,
I need some help right now.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
I don't know why I'm here but chill, but at
three in the morning.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
But to the point being that the president, yes, the
president has it serves as a leader, and I think
a lot of times that's when a lot of folks
get frustrated with our government. They tend to focus on
the president because the president. We have this idea that
we elected this guy. He's supposed to be our leader.

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He's supposed to be taking our you know, our country
in a certain direction. But then we forget that we
also have a Congress, and the Congress is there to
like I mean, if anyone has ever seen that movie
The Dead Zone, okay, when Martin Sheen is a president
in United States, not like President Bartlett in the West Wing,
which would be pretty awesome. No, we're talking like a

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kind of a kookie president who thinks it's his destiny
to bring, you know, do bring the world to the
brink of you know war. You know, if if we
end up with a guy like that and we don't
have other the other branches keeping things in check, then
that's when the leadership is you know, leadership should be questioned.

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And I think that's something that that the Founding Fathers
wanted us to have. Because we don't have kings. We
can have a leader, but the leader has to be
able to work with the other branches so that it's
for the good of the entire country and not just
for this one particular person who's the head of it.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
I just have to add, you should change this. My
family out there, my son and my dog, and happy birthday, birthday,
really quickly. You should change from free speech. Friday. Elliott's
always right, Friday. I mean really he was right about that.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, we'd have a little bit more with Can I
tell you something I'm leaving on a high note, the Beatles.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I'm putting this.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'm putting this show in my portfolio.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Mister Tez. Let's talk a little bit about that. We'll
bring your your your football analogies into it as well.
Is it kind of like the quarterback? How the quarterback
takes the blame for anybody who doesn't want to look
and remember the name of the line. I don't want
to remember the name of Congress. I don't there's too
many people, So I will just focus on the person

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that throws the ball right, and maybe I'll know a
couple other people here or there. Just so I don't
sound like an idiot when I talk about things. Is
this kind of the same mentality with government.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Yeah it is, I mean, but you got to remember
the quarterback is the guy to guess the calls from
the coach or the offensive coordinator, which would probably be
the president, okay, and the quarterback is the is the
Senate I think, and then the offensive line. Ye, it's Congress.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
They're one to protect us side of it. Is it
easier for us to blame one person than to than
to just know a giant roster and all of their flaws.
I'd rather just know one person in their flaw.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah, we all had uh, we have our one guy.
We all blame on a team that if something's going wrong,
you're the guy. No matter what's going on, you're the
guy that did it.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
There it is Cecilia.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
So I want to stress the importance because I do
think that it is easier per se to hold one
person to blame regardless of what the situation is, especially
in the US government, especially at a federal level. But
I do want to stress the importance of holding our
elected officials accountable, regardless of regardless of party lines. Hold

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our elected officials accountable and not mean on the Democratic
side and the Republican side as well. I think that
when we start holding our elected officials accountable, being more
into educating ourselves and being informed on what's going on
in this country, then we would have a more educated
and informed population that is able to speak up and say, hey,
what you are doing is not okay, this is unconstitutional,

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whatever it may be, and start holding every single person
responsible for their actions and their words and everything that
they do. And I don't necessarily blame the American people
for being so disheartened and being so out of tune
with what's going on in politics at a federal, even state,
and even local level. American citizens are so disengaged and disenfranchised,

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and that has got to change. But again, I think
that's due to the lack of relatable or reasonable or
competent candidates.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
At every level.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Ellie, what happens when all three branches are in cahoots
with each other, regardless of party, regardless of anything, all
three branches know that if they want to get something done,
they're all just in this cycle of backscratching regardless of
what the American people really want. Is that the real

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detrimental side of it. Not necessarily the elite, but the
political elite have finally made the meat grinder that they've
been looking for over the past couple of years.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Isn't that what I mean we talk about the disenfranchise
and the disengagement. Isn't that how people look at the
system now? It's like they're all working together anyway. It
doesn't really matter what side you vote for if this
is what they want. You know, I am a I'm
a you know, I'm an independent or Democrat, leaning more
independent now because I'm incredibly frustrated with the Democratic Party

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and I've had I've spoken with members of the Democratic
Party and you know, it's like with the Democrats, it's
like they don't have a problem now fundraising during all this,
And I'm like, why are you going on book tours
when you have your constituents, people who believe in your
side of the story that you need to be fighting.

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You shouldn't be out there trying to raise money acting
like it's business as usual.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Don't get me wrong, it's not that. I mean, there
are some folks who say this is all overblown, that ah,
we're constitutional crisis. Well it's not a constitutional crisis. We're
we haven't we're not getting there yet. D da da dah.
But mind you and and and and let me lump
in mass corporate media with this whole thing. Yeah, that
has got everyone so ratcheted up right now that oh

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my god, this guy is falling. And then oh wait,
and and and and and President Trump. You know, the
whole time, it's like, well, he's the end of democracy.
He's going to be a dictator. He's he's doing some
things right now that everyone predicted he was going to do. Fine,
But but that at the same time, uh, you know,
a former president Barack Obama is sitting next to him
at a at a at a at the Carter's funeral,

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and they're chatting and laughing. I'm like, wait a minute,
if this guy is the next Hitler, how and and
these they're then then the Republicans are supposed to be terrible.
Then why are you even putting on this, you know,
this air of civility when right now we're telling you,
I mean, you need to like, either tell us this
is what things are. If it's the end of the

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republic is coming, then act like it, you know, and
stop acting like it's business as usual?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Are we not getting the whole story? David? Is that
what's happening here? Is we the fourth branch of government,
the media that's supposed to be doing it. And what
I think what's happening with some of it is that
there is some media that's trying to get there, but
because of the new administration, they don't want those types
of questions in there. So is that where the failing

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is or is it the corporate just we got to
make money, so we're going to sensationalize everything.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
I think it's the media one. I mean they they
people rely on the media, and I mean you got,
once again, you got two different type of media outlets.
You got see it in in SNBC, you got news
Max and you got Fox. I mean, they're the Republicans
and this is the Democrats. Okay, it's the same thing
with what we got in both of our houses. I mean,

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it's with the stuff going on with.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Which one does a dog watch. I'm just curious, what's
that is your dog doing Fox or MSNBC?

Speaker 5 (43:15):
He's doing Fox?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Oh Man?

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah, I know, yeah, but I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
The German shepherd, of course, my German.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Shepherd, but he listens to like with what's going on
with Tesla.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
I mean, don't you think they kind of like are
encouraging this and pushing this like it's a good thing
when it's not a good thing.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
People as far as my terrorism or the perceived.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Terror they're doing, but it's not terrorism, it's stupidism. It's
destroying cars and people's jobs absolutely and costing money.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
It shouldn't be about the general boycott. You're saying that
the mainstream media is pushing the general boycott as well.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Oh yeah, but everybody says we could boycott. Everybody has
the rights of boycott. I said we should boycott other
corporations on the show who once remember don't go wow,
don't buy gas, don't buy eggs, don't buy anything. Show
them who's the boss the general?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, the general boycott. That's that's there for it is
the mainstream media, are we now at? It is that
manufactured consent all the time, and the media drives what
the public opinion is for almost everything.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Absolutely, I see if you're mongering on both sides. What
I want to again emphasize is term limit Congress. Term
limit Congress because I think that's a bipart is an
issue and I'm sure there's.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Enough people to cycle through Congress, right, the same same,
like fifty people every time.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
And there's so there's so much hatred and mud sing,
even on both sides, fear mongering.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
The media is playing a huge role in this.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
The media and anybody knows that a population is much
easier to control when we are divided.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
And I'm not with that absolutely, so.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Ly, I'm going to hold you accountable if he becomes
city councilwoman. Okay, if I don't get my water slides, So
remember that. You know you've got to be held accountable.
I bring that up to you.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
So without the Congress and its purse, and without the
executive branch with its law enforcement, whether that be army
or National Guard or police force, et cetera, what does
the judicial branch have to enforce anything? Is it shame?

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Is it? Is it the wag of the finger? Is
it to not go down in history as the person
that defied court order? What what is the mechanism to
enforce this? If the other two branches don't see.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
That's that's where now we start talking about the quote
unquote constitutional crisis, Because up to this point it was shame, right,
it was a repet of the system.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
If you can't spell potato, you can't be president, right,
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Right, which is funny.

Speaker 6 (46:06):
All it took was like.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
And Howard Dean was done out.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
But how do we go from that to like, magnets
don't work, let's vote that guy in. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Really, So to me, it's like, at some point, and
I'm gonna say, you know, I know we've all been
saying this, At some point, Congress is gonna have to
do something because I am going I every time people
start going on social media and saying, well, president Trump
is doing this, and President Trump is doing that, and

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how could he do that? Then this is the end
of democracy and it's all his fault. I'm like, no, no,
Congress at any point can put a stop to this.
Congress at any point can say no, we're sorry, but
you can't do that. You can't do that. And if
you don't, you know, if you don't da da da,
then you know the judiciary will back that up. Because
the judiciary is constantly saying that, you know, we're not

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going to enforce this because it's Congress's job to do that.
And I'm going to sound like a broken record because
I say this. I think I say that every time
I'm on Free Speech Friday. Congress for the last ten
years has been skating. We talk about do nothing, Congress.
We're talking about, Yes, it's easy to blame a president

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than it is to keep all representatives of you know,
all your representatives, make them accountable. That at this point,
I I cannot believe. I hate to say this because
I do have a I mean, even though I will
complain about the Republican Party, although I mean I think
I grew I grew up a conservative, and I do
have some respect for the Republican Party growing up. A

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lot of the Republican Party representatives that are in Congress
right now, I'm sorry, they seem brain dead, like they
do not know how to represent it. Yeah, they do
not know how to communicate. They do not know how
to talk to their constituency. I mean, if you're a
Republican and you're like, well, nothing's going to get done
right now, if all you're gonna do is yell at me,
they're in this whole session, I'm like, you know, you're

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a constituent. It's your job to go up there and say, Okay,
I know you don't understand this. I know this worries you.
I know this is what the problem is. This is okay,
this is what you heard on the media.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
Look, I have the.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Act right here, right now, the thing that we voted on.
Let me point out to you what's actually happening versus
what you think is going to happen. But these representatives are.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Out there like, well, well I didn't get a chance
to read it yet, right.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
The one who said one who said, well, Trump took
care of birthright, birthright citizenship, which was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Like, no, that's everybody yelled at me. That's a constitutional.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Anyway, Elliott right Friday, guys.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Because you guys all agree as well. And that's and
that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Go ahead striking down the fourteenth Amendment with a an
executive order absolutely as unconstitutional and there's no question about it,
regardless of party lines. Republicans and Democrats in Congress.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Need to have a backbone.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
They need to have a backbone, and none of them
are doing that. I'm talking Democrats need to stand up
when they think the Democratic Party is getting way too
far left and way too far woke. They need to
stand up and say we've had enough of this. And
enough of this woke culture wars, and the Republicans need
to say, hey, this is unconstitutional, and while we are Republicans,
we disagree with this, and we're going to stand up

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and have a backbone because this is wrong and it's
unconstitutional and both parties need to be held accountable.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I can't stress that enough.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
And honestly, I don't even know half how half of
these elected officials even became elected in the first place.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
It's concerned the.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Better campaigners than they are governors. Clearly, Oh yeah, yeah,
mister T's let's speak to that just a little bit more.
We're seeing a lot of these town halls just erupt
and a lot of people, oh they're paid actors or
whatever else, even if they are Democrat constituents, seeing entire

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districts like uh move and are motivated for these things.
Are we going to see a correction of the parties
or are we going to see a fissure of the parties.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
I think we're going to see a correction of the parties.
I think these these politicians, congressmen, senators should go to
town halls. They should be talking to these people and
get some input. Because if you walk around the yelling
at them. No, no, we yell at them, We keep
yelling on. It's how they get something into their head.
I guess, because these guys walk around like zombies, doing
nothing in there and wait for somebody else to do

(50:35):
a job or speak up for them. And it's time
for these people to meet him, talk to them, yell
at them and say, hey, we're not going to vote
for you next time.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Oh we gotta tease.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
This, right, I got a double bell today.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
That's it. Should both parties start to foster outside of
their normal I guess farms, right, they have. They have
certain things that say, okay, you went to this, you
did this, check mark, check mark, check mark, and now
you're in. Should they start looking at some of these

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more grassroots or people that do not have that political pedigree.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Don't be a Democrat, don't be a Republican. Be a
concerned citizen that you were voted in to do because
you were in a platform that you're here for the people.
Be that person put away to differences.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Platform over party.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
What do we got so celia, policy over party every
single time?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Policy over party.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I just want smart people who can communicate in office.
That's all I want right now because if anything, that
there is an utter lack of that in the House
of Representatives right now. And it's really obvious. It's people,
I see. It's the used car dealer who is now
suddenly having to govern and finding out that they can't
just talk their way out of things now.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
And our US governments needs to stop acting like the
Jerry Springer Show and start acting like a real government.
It's absolutely and I do believe, I know we can
do so much better than we have.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Jerry.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
We need the we need the I believe in you,
America really do.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Maybe when they start throwing chairs in the House.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Representative, there you go today show as well.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
To be fair, we already have cross dressers in Congress,
so it's it's already part of the Jerry Spurgers show. Cheeters,
cross dressers. I don't know, maybe it is the Jerry
Springer Show. That was the end of a political talk show.
Thanks for hanging out with us. More w r m
N programming after that. Hi.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
My name is Cecilia Evonna Brooks. I'm running for Elgin
City Council because I have a passion for people and politics.
I care deeply for this city and The city of
Elgin is my home, and I want to see all
of our people thrive, prosper and grow for generations to come.
I want to lay the groundwork for this city, championing

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business development and economic prosperity, improving community relations and empowering
our youth, and maneuvering our mental health and substance abuse crisis.
Because the people of Elgin deserve to have a government
that is run by the people for the people. So
join me and please support by voting for me Cecilia
Evanna Brooks on Tuesday, April first, for Elgin City Council.

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