Hey It's Ya Boy-cott!

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Of uh, it's no one can take away your right
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just that, isn't just the Hey, I'm gonna talk to
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with your battle buddies or anybody else that you've you've got.

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Yeah, definitely, I've noticed from my experience that the biggest
issue or the biggest thing that I've realized that helps
me feel better about myself is giving back. And then
you feel more responsible to other people, and that helps
your own journey too. And plus it just makes you
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stall next to you. That is what you're doing there
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words that I wanted to bring up now we had
you and I yesterday had kind of talked about maybe
doing obsolescence right is because you start to see things

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of like not necessarily obsolete because it just the time
has changed, but it was planned in that side. And
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if you do. Darn If you don't, it's there but

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one word that just keeps popping up is for me
is something that we saw in I think it was
twenty and twenty three. That was a real big word
when everybody was shooting guns and blowing it up and
Kid Rock got involved. A whole bunch of other stuff
that's out there. But now the how the kids say

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it that the turns have tabled the tables. Yes goes boycott.
That's the word of the day is boycott. We're going
to talk about the history of boycotting, some of the
effects that it had, and then modern boycott that we've

(05:54):
got for two different things. Okay, we had the bud
Light boycott with the conservatives followed along, seen that one,
and now we're getting to the Tesla boycott, the target
one to this, yeah, for the conservative side of it.
And then even then a lot of people are boycotting

(06:14):
places that have shut off their DEI program.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
And even we have whole countries that are boycotting other
countries exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, full on sanctions for things and boycotting this.
So we're going to focus on two different things, the
polarization of those two boycotts, and then we're also going
to talk a little bit about the history of it.
It was actually Captain Charles Boycott. You didn't know Captain

(06:44):
Boycott helped us get into the situation that we're He's.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
A major, He's a major major Boycott.

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Type of stuff, synergy or like what a synergy mean?
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taking them back, We're taking it back. That's it. I mean,
I'm not going to put it on a shirt or
clerk's reference. But today's word that we're going to break
down is boycott. And I don't think you knew this
or not, Nick, but the term boycott originates from Captain
Charles Boycott, a nineteenth century land agent in Ireland who

(15:31):
was socially and economically ostracized by tenant farmers as a
part of a protest against the unfair rent policies. Since then,
the concept of boycotting has evolved into a widespread form
of protest, used by individuals, organizations, and even governments to

(15:55):
express dissent or pressure entities into So we live in
a we live at a capitalist globalist society now, and
so we say it all the time of vote with
your dollars if you want a product to thrive. Right.
They talk about the marketplace of ideas, the marketplace just

(16:19):
in general. Right, So they turn around and they'll say, well,
the market will decide what's good and what's better. I've
heard that before. What they mean by it is consumers
will give their money to the perceived good product. So
if I don't give my money to the thing and
purposefully say I'm not giving my money to that and

(16:40):
give it somewhere else, you are essentially moving your vote
from one side to another. That way you can focus
and raise up that product that's there. Like to talk
about Baits boots. Right, we're in the middle of Harry's

(17:00):
we were we wore some space boots, but they also
have new Balance or anything else that's there. But or
we all decided, you know what, this is the one
we want. They're the comfortable. Even if they were or not,
it was perceived that way because of the marketplace and
everybody turning around the other thing Beats the headphones by

(17:21):
the Beats stuff terrible headphones. I think you'd get a
pair of Shores or Sindhousers, or or even a pair
of so like skull Can or something like that that'll
sound a little bit better. But it's that brand awareness
that people turn around and go, oh, well, they're a major.
Even though it's it's not necessarily.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
People spend money absorbently over something that something is worth
just for the sheer idea that oh, if you get this,
this is what this is worth. My grandpa always said
that something's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it, exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So what happens when people aren't willing to and we're
going to run into a lot of all I mean,
boycotts are often seen as a powerful tool of free
market expression. We turn around and say, you know what,
we don't like the policies, or even then, we don't
like that the green m and ms are now on
flats instead of heels. Like there's a whole bunch of

(18:18):
Is it silly sometimes to turn around and do it?
Look at the Sonic movie. People were saying, we're never
gonna watch it, never gonna do it because of the
CGI Sonic that and so when you when you hold
back your dollars, that's when we turn around and we're
able to vote that way by not having dollars go

(18:40):
out to one.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Kalan Kaepernick was going on his knee for the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
My grandpa was like.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
He'd stopped watching football exactly, like completely like and he'd
never watched it again for the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
My goodness, that's that's a wild boycott right like that.
And they didn't even they didn't even decide to come back.
They were just like, yeah, no, it's so is that
a boycott or is that just I'm out, Like yeah,
sometimes a boycott is to achieve a thing, Right, you're
trying to for even though you like the product or

(19:13):
anything else, maybe you're trying to get something to move.
So when we go into the Tesla side, we right
now it's a boycott, and it's primarily from the Democrats
on that side. Rewind not even four years ago, and
it was like no, no, no, give subsidies to uh
to Tesla, right, yeah, we need what it was it was,

(19:37):
give more money to them. I don't have any money.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Give some more to right, Oh we need electric ability, infrastructure,
all that stuff exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And then all of a sudden we flip it the
other direction. And it's not because necessarily the product has
changed the ideology of the person who's running its right.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, you want guy to argue that nothing about the
product has changed.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, it's still the cyber trucks are still rusting in
all the Yeah, catching on fire more than a pinto
not starting in the freezing colt. Yeah, or what was
the other one all electric? So you can't even open
your doors? Oh yeah, right, your battery dies, So how
do you get in that? Look? I didn't think the

(20:21):
product was very good to begin with anyway.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Guitar where you can drive from the back seat.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, oh, James Bond. So the historical significance of boycotts.
You remember Montgomery Bus right, Rosa Parks Oh right, yeah,
nineteen fifty five, nineteen fifty six, sparked by Rosa Parks
arrest African Americans on Montgomery, Alabama, refused to use the

(20:48):
segregated bus system. That led to the Supreme Court ruling
that segregation on public transportation was unconstitutional. Now, what the
Montgomery Bus Company could have done was say, okay, well,
regardless of what the laws are, we are going to
desegregate the side on right. So they could have fought

(21:11):
for that side of it. You've heard of a guy
named Mahatma Gandhi, right, Oh, yeah, that guy, I think
I've heard of it exactly the Indian Sawadeshi movement. From
nineteen oh five to nineteen eleven, Indians boycotted British goods
as part of a larger independence movement. Even to the

(21:33):
point where Gandhi at a certain point boycotted all food.
Oh my god, I decided to for the Indian independence movement.
Is that exactly? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Is the anti apartheid in there.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, now, anti apartheid boycott of the twentieth century of
South Africa, And that was because governments were forcing the
apartheid system. And so the boycott helped everybody. You choke
their funding out of it, they're going to freak out.
A business is lifeblood.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Is the money money to right affect the money you
can affect something.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Then you've also got the modern boycotts now, and those
are mostly political in the sense of identity politics versus
maybe doing something for the good right is Now, you
can make an argument of even the Montgomery bus boycotts
were identity politics, but it was identifying American and we

(22:31):
need to all look at American aspect of it. Yeah,
I agree with that one. So we're gonna get into
two boycotts that were really polarized when we're talking about
this here. We're going to talk about the bud Light boycott,
and that was from twenty twenty three to twenty four,

(22:53):
and then of course we've got this new one this
Tesla boycott that's here, and even then, and there were
some other things that kind of went along with it.
So even with the Tesla boycott, there's also an ex
boycott that's going on right now of people leaving x
oh for the formula Twitter thing exactly and then going
over to maybe like Blue Sky or even then. I've

(23:15):
seen some conservatives just move over to Rumble or lean
more into Lean more into Facebook for everything over there.
What's really crazy about the Tesla boycott is it is
affecting X because Elon Musk bought X with Tesla collateral.

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So what the Democrats are trying to do is do
a two birds.

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see and people were like, what do you what do
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I'm the fireman, I'm the policeman, I'm the plumber, I'm
the I'm all the above, the cleaning person.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Don't on a boy kot, your duty's on the boat exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, and that's the word of the day. Boycott. We're
gonna go over a few of those boycotts in most
recent memory. One of such is, well, first off, we
got to go back to to Captain Charles Boycott, which
is I did not think there would be a real person, right.

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You think of some of these words that people put together,
we pull into our vernacular or like that's named after somebody,
like like sandwich, right, the earl of sandwich together, and
you're like, there was an earl of sandwich you're telling
me that, I would hope. So what was happening was

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he was eating with his hands, because I mean they
didn't really necessarily have utensils anything else, even if you
are an earl, and they were eating, he was eating
it with his hands, and he would get nasty. And
so he was like, here's a bun, here's another bun.
Let me put that in there. I can touch bread.
That's not so bad. Nice, and therefore sandwich because like,

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why would you call it a sandwich. Why wouldn't you
call it like a like a bread concoction or whatever
else like, so there's some words like that for it. Now,
boycotts come in a bunch of different ways. Personal boycotts
like you turn around and you say personally I'm gonna
not shop here, or or even then saying I'm not
gonna use plastic bags or straw.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh yeah, you can boycott goods too. It's not necessarily
just spending money on certain things exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
You turn around and you use something different for it.
And then there's also organizations that will put boycotts up
and say hey, here's a list of people that don't.
And then there's also like you had brought up countries.
Countries will boycott. That's what Canada is doing right now, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
They took all the liquor off the shelves and all
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Exactly, and they said, there's they're targeting that that boycott.
And you know how nice the Canadians are for everything.
I mean, they're gonna they're gonna be mad, but they're
gonna be like, Okay, you're gonna be back for cards
on lead.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm my mom's Canadian, so I'm ath Canadian too, So okay,
so I can I can make fun of them, so.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You get some of that that side. That's that's And
here's the issue that I've got is when boycotts align
with your personal beliefs or your political leanings, it's frequently
justified as a legitimate form of protest. Right. However, when
a boycott negatively impacts your preferred companies, then then it's

(33:15):
often called cancel culture or economic coercion, even as far
as being called domestic terrorism. Yeah, I don't like that
we're being thrown around like that. Yeah, lightly like that,
especially when the people who say it's domestic terrorism literally
pardoned a bunch of them.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And as a veteran we swore an oath to to
protect the country from all terrorists, foreign and domestic.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Right, So I don't want to fight people who are
boycotting things. That's their right. Yeah, don't be a domestic terrorist.
Now you're actual terrorist, sure yeah yeah, but like, don't
just wave that word around. Yeah. So one of the
ones I want to talk about is bud Light. You
remember that one where In April twenty twenty three, bud

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Light partnered with transgender influencer Dylan mulmulvaney in a social
media campaign. The partnership was intended to celebrate Mulvaney's three
hundred and sixty five Days of Girlhood series documenting her
gender transition. While the campaign was a small was small

(34:21):
in scale, it quickly drew the ire of many conservatives,
who saw it as a sign that bud Light was
going woke. Oh god, do you remember that? I do
remember that. What do you remember of that?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I remember that people were really angry and they were.
And it's interesting too because bud Light traditionally, when you
just think bud Light, you think like Super Bowl ads.
They're just like crazy drunk guys at parties, the beer
bong parties.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
You know, it's having a good time.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
And the crazy part is their objectification of women in
all the ads and the sex that they used to sell.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's the irony behind.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Oh well, this person feels better, you know whatever they
want to call themselves.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's a huge issue now. And there was like that
was like an Adam Sandler bit inane.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, it's so great. It's just wild, right, This poor
person was just trying to live their life.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
True. Well, and even then it was a small scale
type of thing, but it just grew into such a
big thing. Kid Rocket posted a viral video of him
shooting bud Light cans, stating f bud Light and f
Anheuser Busch. Travis Tritch also removed Anheuser Busch products from

(35:36):
his tour, commenting a great American company sold out to
woke ideology and then the backlash from Howard Stern asking
why are you so upset about this? How is it hurtful?
But it's back to that ideology side of things, and
if if you don't like it, then that's your prerogative

(35:58):
to not buy things. Right. It's the same thing of
when and we'll get to X and all of that,
But do you remember when X was they were advertisers
were leaving X right, Yeah, and then Elon Musk turned
around and sued the people that were leaving and said,
you have to advertise with me. Yeah, in a second

(36:20):
first Amendment much. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
He's saying this stuff about Tesla too, saying that if
you're boycotting Tesla, that's also illegal, and you're like.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
How sad.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
How And problem is when he says these words, people
think of it as like law or like they're like, oh,
this is what they say.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
And they use it as their arguments. M hmm. Going,
that's the issue with words not having meanings. The sales
for the bud bud Light Anheuser Busch is a product.
Anheuser Busch in Bev is the name of the company.
Sales in the month following the advertisement, bud Light sales

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fell anywhere between eleven and twenty six percent, depending on
what you were looking at. All of that side. Bud
Light sales going going down. Oh my April so the
springtime you're looking at at cookouts and everything.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, oil day is coming up. I think it said
that Modello took over as the number one beer seller
in the country.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Absolutely not ir there By May they were they had
lost the status as the top selling beer in America.
And you're right, Modello came right back behind it. Wow,
which was a little ironic.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I was gonna say, so the boycotten this truly American company.
And now the irony is just like on multiple.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Levels there it is the other side of it. At
the end of it all, the overall sales of Anheuser
Bush only decreased by about one percent, But one percent
in a billion dollar company, you're looking at some chump change.
But by August twenty twenty three, ab IMBEV reported that

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revenue in the United States had fallen more than ten
percent in the second quarter compared to the same period
the previous year. And that's August, That's that's summertime. Yeah,
that baseball chugging bud Light left and right, and that
was primarily due to the volume decline of bud Light. Wow. Yeah,

(38:21):
it went straight for the What did it actually change, Well,
mulvaney was removed off of the campaign, so they didn't
do that anymore, and all of the signature cans were
also removed from the shelf.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
WO.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
So they did take a black eye. They did get
punched a little bit there, Zach Brian a rising star
because it's back to that countryside Travis Tritt and Kid Rock.
But Zach Bryan said, insulting transgender people is completely wrong.
We live in a country where we can all just
be who we want to be. And it was a

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point of that identity at that point. It was it
was more about how dare they pull this stunt because
of the identity or whatever else was there. I mean,
does Dylan mulvany being on a can affect your life? Right?

(39:19):
Not so much. But at that time twenty twenty three,
the world was our oyster, right. I mean, maybe we
had a little bit of a little bit of the
inflation side of it coming up, but we were finally
coming out of COVID, finally coming out of that COVID,
And so I mean, why not have any markets were
relatively level exactly? Yeah, markets are out of control now.

(39:43):
Oh my gosh. You're seeing so many people on the
uh the text side of it, well a little bit,
but I'm also seeing some people cheering it on because
a lot of people know, we know that the stock
market is kind of at the whim of, right, yeah,
and feelings of the overall investors, because I think the

(40:05):
top ten percent own ninety percent of the stock.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Even Warren Buffett was talking about how there's some issues
going on.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's all investors in that side. So it is a
little bit of feelings. So I'm seeing some of the
investors that are actually cheering this on because they feel
that it's all going to be temporary, even if it
is going to be a recession or anything else. A
lot of people who have money that can survive through
a recession love recession.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Well of course, because the people that can't are selling
all their stuff and they just snatch it all up exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
So, and that's why we're starting to see more recessions
happen more often. Yeah, right, interesting, right, the fifth one
or something like that, Like is every other president going
to have one? And if you know what every other
president's political.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Party, right, exacting is what happens.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
So that's the other side of it too, is if
you look at the pattern of win recessions hit and
who's in charge of the country. I don't need I
don't need to necessarily point out the facts for you,
but here are the facts.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
That's what we do around here. You can check it
out on the substack later.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Right, that's it. I'll make sure I got everything put
up for that. While Tesla was once championed the liberal
environmentalists for its role in revolutionizing electric vehicles, its association
with CEO Elon Musk has shifted its perception. Musk political
leanings have alienated many former Tesla's supporters. I don't need

(41:45):
to get into the criticisms of his policies or his
quote unquote free speech absolutionist, which I don't believe in
any kind of way, especially when you turn around and
say I'm going to sue you if you don't come
back and advertise with me. I didn't know you could
do that. I mean, I'm gonna start doing that for

(42:05):
the station. That's what you needna start calling people up.
Hey McDonald's. Hey, I heard you weren't advertising with WRMN.
Well you know what you better?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
It should be a new class here at I AM
that's on how to do that.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
But the peral discontent with Musk has now reached a
breaking point. His purchase of Twitter, which is now x
and his decision to reinstate banned figures.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, he bought the whole thing just because they kick
or kick Trump off of there.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, and wanted to put it back on there. He's
also been overly vocal for certain candidates as well, and
the allegations that Musk relaxed content moderation as well, where
hate speech and misinformation have come out a little right, yeah,
and no fact checking allowed or whatever exactly. And even

(42:53):
then I think Facebook is moving from fact checking as well.
They're going back to or they're going to community notes
like the like the other ones had for there. So
this is what's happened with Tesla because when Musk bought Tesla,
or Musk bought X, he used his Tesla stock to

(43:15):
be collateral. So the way that the rich get away
from income tax because you turn around and you're like,
the guy's worth five hundred billion dollars of taxes, right,
And everybody goes, well, we can't go after perceived gain
or anything like that. So what I do is I

(43:35):
buy a whole bunch of stock and then I turn
around and I go to the bank and I take
out a loan, and that loan is now a liability,
not an asset. And because it's a liability, I'm not
being taxed on the money that I borrowed. So then
what I do is any of the subsidies that I

(43:55):
get from my stock or any of the things that
I that I get from it, I then use that
to pay off the interest of the loan that I
got from the bank. And if I really need to,
at any point, I can sell off the stock and
pay off my loan, and it is me paying off

(44:16):
my loan as opposed to me receiving an income. So
that's how they kind of get away. That's wild. Yeah,
that's what it is. Money makes money. I mean, it's smart,
but it's the laws that put it that directly. So
the financial impact to what's going on right now is
a huge backlash. The stock decline for Tesla experienced a

(44:42):
sharp decline, falling over fifteen percent by the tenth marking
its steepest drop in nearly five years. It was at
four hundred something. It is now sitting below three. So
that's why a lot of people are cheering on the

(45:05):
drop because they believe that it's only going to be temporary.
So you buy it now while it's low dip, and
then maybe, but you still need.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
A bunch of money to buy that type of thing.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Exactly, you still need the money. But anybody who's got
a four h one k right now, they're maybe pulling
their hairs out.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
When the first recession came around, my dad he was
going to retire from being a police officer, and he,
like you said, four to one k whatever the things were,
but he had opted to do whatnot, And because of
the recession, he had to work like another ten years exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
And that's usually what happens is when a recession happens,
people who are already on the edge lose the farm,
right right, and then a venture capitalist comes in and says, hey,
I get it on the cheap because it's a fire sale.
And so then they come around and put that in together.

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Public reactions and quotes of the Tesla boycott, the president
has called the Tesla boycott illegal and blaming it on
the radical left lunatics. He also stated, I'm buying a
Tesla to support Musk. I saw that not only is
he buying a Tesla, he is also buying a fleet

(46:23):
of cyber trucks for what the government for the government.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, I was just being silly.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
No, no, no, oh dirty, right, that's where oh absolutely,
because the eye test doesn't even pass the eye test
on that that's true. Elon Musk dismissed the protests, saying,
these are small, noisy groups with no real power. But
what I do not like is the vandalism. It is
one thing to protest the product. It is another thing

(46:53):
to destroy somebody else property and that you cannot have.
That that is illegal. That is borderline terrorism if you
want to step into that realm for it. Protesters gathered
around Tesla stores with signs reading defund Musk and boycott Tesla.

(47:15):
And this is where we kind of get into the
hypocrisy of it.

Speaker 7 (47:20):
Is when.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
It was bud light and it was oh, let's let's
rally behind this movement of no bud light and all
of these other things that were there, it was consumer
choice or it was a necessary stand or fu bud
light like it was. It was that type of side.
But now if you don't like the boycott, it's cancel culture,

(47:49):
or it's economic terrorism, or even some people have gone
as far as calling it blackmail. Oh well, if I'm
not going to buy your products, well, if you're not
gonna buy my product because you want me to change,
then that's blackmail, right. No, that's the free market. Yeah,
so it just goes to show you that boycotts are

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powerful tools that allow consumers to express their values, but
they are also highly politicized, because that's the point of it.
You don't you don't just turn around a boycott because
they change the color of something. Well you might, I
mean people do, but yeah, but you're not going to.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Get a movement bind right, no long term steamrolling or
any type of like a big bill behind you.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Now we may look at like, like I said, the
Sonic movie where they people were saying they were going
to boycott it because they didn't like the look or
the seat, oh the Little Mermaid, some of the Disney
shows just because of the type of or the actors
the skin color, you know, because people are like, oh,
it's not traditionally whatever they got said about, you know,

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bud Light and Tesla. Boycotts reveal the inconsistencies on how
political groups perceive and apply economic pressure. Instead of recognizing
boycotts as a neutral mechanism of a free market activism.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I like that when you say that again, let's see here.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Instead of recognizing boycotts as a neutral mechanism of free
market activism, I like that both sides use them selectively
to support their causes while vilifying the opposition. Ultimately, whether
a boycott is perceived as righteous activism or economic terrorism,

(49:38):
it is less about its impact and more about who
it benefits and who it harms. That people kind of
lean into. And that's why we had a car show
at the White House this week. I don't necessarily need
to get into the laws that that's not supposed to happen,

(49:59):
because they were all brought up in twenty sixteen when
the hats were being sold. Oh right, even then, we
can go.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
As far as coins that you know, the coins, the coins.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Absolutely legal to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
So goodness, didn't he say that he as soon as
he bought all these things then he then he donated
one hundred million dollars to his campaign or something like that.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
We'll just say the super PACs and the.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Way they don't the way they're regulated is just so
it's very frustrated.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
It since United, but to have just blatant payoffs, I think, Yeah,
the biggest issue for me on it because it's if
you own a thing, I can turn around and buy
as much of the thing as you want it. Imagine
if Carter turned around and said, yeah, I'm selling peanuts.
What of it, right? I mean, yeah, so Saudi Arabia

(50:51):
decided to buy all my peanuts. So let's free market,
right what? Yeah, I do what I want to Pullosi
because I like to bring her up as the as
the stock market side.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Oh god, yeah, she would make it like thirty one
percent on her investments exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
That that's the ridiculous. So money in politics isn't just
necessarily bribes in politics, it's what levers are you pulling?
Who are you giving the contracts to. We've got Tesla
stock being pulled up because of the subsidies that go
to him. We're also looking at buying more and oh yeah,

(51:30):
the subsidies. And now the FAA. How are you in
charge of the people. How are you in charge of
the people who work there and you're in charge of
the contracts?

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, I'll can be in charge of the system and
also be in charge of the people that are supposed
to hold the system accountable.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Exactly. It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
They have a serial by nature, you know, yourpations and
the American government.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Nikki, you stick around for a little bit more and
we got one more hour leftover. I'm in. I'm in Hey, well,
listening to a political talk show here on WRMN. That
was word Wednesdays. Stick around for some headlines. Oh, and
we will keep track of that. Hey, Tammy, I just
made an AI fact checker for the show. Do you
want to try it out?

Speaker 8 (52:14):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (52:15):
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two pm to four pm. Let me know when Tammy

(52:46):
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Speaker 1 (53:03):
I'll work on it.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
You better your hometown radio station.

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