Word Wednesday: "Hyperbolic" Echo Chamber!

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we're going to be talking about today in the way
that kind of like we we talk in general with
idioms and colloquialisms and all the different ways that we do.
But you notice I haven't said the word of the
day yet. Well, maybe we are going to use the
word hyperbole. That's it hyperbole. We use it in everyday life.

(03:03):
We use it. I could eat a horse, this bag
weighs a ton. A whole bunch of different things that
are in hyperbole. Politics even more so I'm going to
go and give you a couple examples of the hyperbole
that's there. I was called hyperbolic and spreader of propaganda. Yeah, sure,

(03:28):
I'll take that side. I do use hyperbole from time
to time. I am a writer. I'm allowed to do such.
I don't have the speech and debate clause of a politician,
but I have that beautiful first amendment that we all
like to have. Now, does that start to, I don't know,
break down your argument by using hyperbole? Yes, and no.

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I think for the most part, using those larger terms
is part, as we discovered today, is really part of
our everyday language to begin with of hyperbole. Oh, it's
it's hot as heck outside, right, I mean, it's just
what we use instead of saying it's cold. Trust me,
if I did not use any hyperbole, I was sans hyperbole,

(04:18):
you wouldn't listen. Nobody would listen to anything. We already
try to be that middle of the road and try
to be that fair side anyway, so we don't have
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of today is hyperbole and hyperbole a lot is in
the American idioms and of course those colloquialisms that are there,
the exaggerated language, and it serves a purpose of talking

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in a regular type of every man conversation. You see
a lot of politicians put on those fake accents and
talk about the gravy train with the biscuit wheels that
are like, okay, cool idioms, metaphors, all of the different
things that are there. That's what we're going to talk

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we will talk about hyperbole. We'll talk about its uses,
where we kind of get it from, and where my
word that we that we used to start this thing

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literally kind of die to because hyperbally. You're listening to
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on something just to kind of prime the old brain
engines a little bit, get the hamster wheels, moving the
smoke out of the ears, whatever other idioms or metaphors
that we've got here, But let's talk about hyperbole. Hyperbole
is is a rhetorical device, a figure of speech that

(12:06):
involves exaggerating statements or claims that are not meant to
be literally taken literally. Right, even though we beat the
word literally to death, I literally couldn't get out of bed.
This literally is too hot. It is literally it's literally
as as cold as hell outside, like all of the

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different things that are there. But that's not meant to
be taken literally. Now in this age of chicken little
and the sky is falling and they're coming after your
guns and whatever else, that can also be taken as hyperbole.

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But depending on the context, it's the same kind of side.
Think about sarcasm, right. Sarcasm is the same words that
you would say nicely, or the same words that you
would would use in just regular conversation, but it has
that extra thick layer upon it. Think of hyperbole kind

(13:10):
of not as the negative side, but more as the
I don't know, literary license that everybody kind of has
to speak. Hyperbole is prevalent in literature, politics, advertising, daily
conversations and even historical storytelling. We talk about George Washington

(13:33):
not chopping down the cherry tree because I cannot tell
a lie. This is it's an American fairy tale. It's
a we call them folk tales. Right. If you haven't
been in school for very long, or haven't been at
school for a while, there's a big statistic out there

(13:54):
that the majority of people do not read another non
fiction book after any school, whether it's high school or
college or technical school or anything like that. There's a
majority of people do not ever pick up another non
fiction book. I get it. Changing your mind growing is tough. Sometimes.

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What we're going to do is we're going to explore
the origins of hyperbole, function and everything else that goes
along with it, because that's the word of the day.
Hyperbole h y p E R b O l E.
The word hyperbole comes from the Greek excess or overshooting.

(14:37):
It's literally spelled the same hyperbole, It just has that
fancy little na on top of the e there. It
derives from hyper beyond and balance b A l l
e I n to throw. So you are throwing beyond,
you are going over your reach. It is a extreme
feat in which that is happening, suggesting some thrown beyond

(15:01):
normal range. The concept of hyperbole was has existed since antiquity,
playing a significant role in rhetoric and literature. So we've
got classical rhetoric. Excuse me. Hyperbole was first formally discussed
because I'm sure we used it as a species of

(15:24):
sarcasm and everything else. It's when we start putting actual
words to things instead of instead of just saying, you
know what, what's that thing? When you guys over exaggerate
and kind of overshoot your thought, well, why don't we
make a word for that. Aristotle in rhetoric described it
as an essential tool for persuasion, particularly in speeches designed

(15:48):
to stir emotions. Imagine a speech without any hyperbole. My goodness,
you're at a lecture. You don't need me to read
the phone book for you. So that's a lot of
what hyperbole ends up. I mean, it's deeply ingrained in

(16:09):
American way of speaking, particularly idioms and colloquial expressions. Colloquial
right c O L L O q U I A L.
For those of you that are playing at home, it's
a form of exaggerated language. I mean, it's it's a
lot of different purposes to it. It adds color to conversations,

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it emphasizes emotions, and it makes storytelling a little bit
more engaging. I mean, that's the first form of entertainment,
with storytelling to each other. When you ask somebody how
they're doing, what was your weekend? Like, et cetera, et cetera,
you're asking for a story. You're you're not asking to
just be like, how was your weekend? What did you do? Nothing? Well, okay, right?

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You feel disappointed when what doesn't give you a story,
story of what they did? It's it's back to it.
Whether it's in casual speech, literature, or marketing, Americans frequently
use hyperbole to drive their points home in entertaining and
most importantly, memorable ways. So let's talk a little bit

(17:20):
about the role of hyperbole. An American English is filled
with hyperbolic expressions that are rarely meant to be taken literally.
These exaggerated phrases enhance communication by conveying emotions more vividly
and humorously. Common examples conclude, I'm so hungry, I can

(17:41):
eat a horse. I've told you a million times, Oh
what you got in this thing? This bag weighs a ton. Now,
obviously those aren't real things. You might be so hungry,
but I out you could eat a horse. Told you

(18:04):
a million times that frustration out of the millionth, tenth
millionth time this bag weigh is a ton. My goodness,
it's just heavy. How would it How would it see
if every single time you picks up up and said, oh,
that's heavy, or should I be more specific, oh, your
your pound, your bag feels like it weighs fifteen pounds,

(18:27):
Like what what do you want to do? Like? We
have to use this to communicate with each other effectively.
Historical roots for hyperbolic idioms, right, it's back to that
amazing feat that overthrow. Many hyperbolic idioms in American English
trace back all the way to historical context, literature, and

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even early advertising. Paul Bunyan's acts creating the Grand Canyon
is an exaggerated tale to convey his legendary strength. You've
also got pekost Bill lassoing the Tornado, a hyperbolic depiction
of a cowboy bravado. These myths shaped American storytelling, reinforcing

(19:20):
the nation's appreciation for exaggeration. You exaggerate so you can
walk back down. I don't know if you've read the
Art of the deal, but a lot of that is
part of making a deal if you end up wanting
Let's say I've got a trinket, I've got a widget

(19:40):
that I want fifteen hundred dollars for. I come in
at twenty five hundred, so that I can walk it
back down to what I really want taggling. It's exaggeration.
Mark Twain was really good at it. Mark Twain, one

(20:02):
of the one of America's most famous writers, frequently used
hyperbole for comedic effect. And the Adventures of Tom Sawyer,
Tom imagines his own funeral and how mourners will grieve
passing an exaggerated, dramatic fashion. Twain's use of hyperbole influenced
humorists and writers for generations. We talk about advertising the

(20:28):
best a man can get. It's an unprovable, subjective fact.
Tastes so good. Kats asked for it by name. No,
they don't. Cats can't talk, they make noises. Red bull
gives you wings. Right, This is all part of that

(20:57):
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in the world, unbeatable prices, lose thirty pounds in a week.
Just do it. It's revolutionary, life changing. Then we start

(21:21):
talking about political rhetoric, it's going to be tremendous day one.
These are the things that we end up with when

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we don't necessarily want to say the actual thing either.
If I can't describe something in an accurate way, why
not describe it in a unaccurate way. It's a sational way.
It'll be tremendous, the best you've ever seen, Sue. We're

(22:05):
talking about playing with fire. If this bill becomes law,
it will be used to prosecute pastors. We're headed towards
a modern day inquisition. We should be sending more terrorists

(22:26):
there to Guantanamo Bay. As far as I'm concerned, every
last one of them can rot. The world is going
to end in twelve years if we don't address climate change.
Hyperbole good bad otherwise. It's what we have to communicate,

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and honestly, it's what we have to communicate effectively. A
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Hello, my fellow Americans, and good day to our friends
around the world. Welcome back to a political talk show.
Thank you very much for being here. We are discussing
our word for word Wednesday. That is hyperbole. H Y
p E R b O l E. Hyperbole. Somebody used

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it last week. They were using it for more of
a a dig in, more of a a pejorative than
really a hey, you're you're being a little too hyperbolic
type of type of thing. It was attached also to propaganda. Yeah,

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propaganda is pretty high hyperbolic. It's it's it's out there,
is that type of we'll get them in the doghouses
and the trenches and the whatever else. I mean, there's
a bunch of different things that are out there, and yeah,
it is propaganda. The propaganda that I would like to

(29:15):
spread and I try to spread is American values and
exceptionalism because of the Constitution, Jeffersonian propaganda. If you will,
now by all means, if you think the Democratic Republic
is too democratic or too republican, then I guess that's

(29:37):
on you. But from the Age of Reason and the
age of what they called Enlightenment for that turn of
from seventeen nineties to about the eighteen hundreds that are there.
That age of reason is when we got a lot
of our founding fathers and including George Washington, John Adams,

(30:00):
Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Payne. I mean, there's just so many
of them that are out there. In that turn, it
was also a big side of philosophy of it. In
Germany you had a manual Kant Kant, I guess ka
n t Kant, and it was all about finding universal

(30:21):
laws in the fact of like, this is what we
should all agree with. In fact, Emmanuel Kant has one
of the best ways to talk about the Golden rule, right,
love thy neighbor as thyself. Sure, well, what if you
don't love yourself? That makes it a little little stickier there.

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What the way Kant put it was do everything as
if it was universal law. So if somebody was going to,
I don't know, run through a red light, and you're like, look,
I'm gonna run through this red light right now because
I want to, you should imagine that every single person

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gets to run through red lights. Do everything as if
it was universal law. You want people to hold doors
for you, you hold doors for other people. That's I think
it takes a little bit of the self deprecation or

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the I don't care about the world. It takes kind
of like that nihilism, not completely out of it, but
it does kind of stay away from the emotional side
of things. Love thy neighbor as thyself is fine if
you love yourself. If you don't, then it just gives
you full rain to just do whatever you want to

(31:57):
do to anybody. Because I don't love my well, actually
I love myself this much, so therefore I'm gonna love
everybody that much. So, if anything, the same kind of
thing Thomas Paine lots of propaganda out there into that
Jeffersonian democracy type of propaganda, the Democratic Republic from our

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early founding fathers. He did these almost the same kind
of thing. Thomas Paine said his religion was doing good.
It's easy enough, pretty simple, but it's not specific and
what is good? So by this side of it, even

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that is hyperbole. What's your religion doing good? Or here's
the best one from Thomas pain I am a citizen
of the world, absolutely hyper Yeah, you live in the world,
but you are a citizen of whatever country, state, region
that you you are of. But it helps you understand

(33:13):
his point instead of him just saying I'm a person
that lives on earth, factual, straight to the point. But
it doesn't have remembrance to it. Oh yeah, that's famous
Thomas Payne quote. I'm a dude that lives here. And

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even then, Sorry, I can't help but put some of
that hyperbole back in. So we all have propaganda, we
all have messaging, and the fact that you use the
words hyperbole and propaganda in a negative connotation, and every

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single time you use that word tells me that we
need to do more word Wednesdays. Sorry, there's only fifty
some of them. I talked to the Upper Office to
see if we could get three or four more Wednesdays
a week. Ain't gonna happen. Sorry, I know, I know

(34:20):
you are all looking forward to it. But let's go
a little bit into the political hyperbole because this is
a political talk show. Thanks for listening. Find us on
your favorite podcasting platform. This episode will be there. Political
hyperbole is common. It is featured in congressional discourse, often

(34:42):
used to emphasize points or sway public opinion. Marjorie Taylor
Green has said things like this is exactly the type
of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about, and it's
exactly what happened to Nazi Germany. When she was referring

(35:02):
to the COVID nineteen mask mandates to the actions of
Nazi Germany. I thought I thought it was just the
Democrats that called people Nazis when they don't agree with them.
You better check with Marjorie Taylor Green and JD. Vance.

(35:27):
Let's see here, the House Minority Leader Pelosi had said
the bill that's on the floor brings shame and disgrace.
It's arm again in she said that on the tax
reform of twenty seventeen. How are you feeling with that
tax reform of twenty seventeen. You know, the same taxes

(35:48):
that we're living under right now, the same deficit that
we created in seventeen, the same debt that we created
in twenty and seventeen, same tax reform bill that is
now marching its way through Congress right now, which will
be its big brother that's marching through right now. You

(36:12):
thought it was bad when they were just giving the
cuts to the billionaires and not really cutting any expenses,
Wait until they start cutting expenses and give that extra
little push for the billionaire buddies. Look, you don't have
to you don't have to believe me. Read it. It's
on the internet. You can go to Congress. You can

(36:33):
look at the House bill from Congress one nineteen just past.
It's literally what we're going to go over Thursday. Literally,
see because I used it there. That's not hyperbole. We're
literally going to go over Thursday's we usually do legislation.
Bernie Sanders has said climate change is directly related to

(36:55):
the growth of terrorism. He said that in twenty fifteen.
Senator Sanders linked climate change to terrorism, suggesting that resource
scarcity exasperated by climate issues can lead to global conflicts.
That doesn't sound as fun, that's not as memorable. And

(37:19):
this one, which I love too. People bring it up
all the time, and as they should. This is from
Representative Alexandria Acasio Cortes back in twenty nineteen. The world
is going to end in twelve years if we don't
address climate change. Well, I guess we started addressing climate

(37:40):
change then, or it's not there yet. That was only
said six years ago, so we've only got six years left. Everybody,
it's not what she meant. AOC emphasized the urgency of
addressing climate change. It's the same thing that you said
back in the seventies too.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
Oh, the seventies. If we don't get something on climate change,
then we'll do it. And then what did we do?
We got rid of the things that we're adding holes
in the ozone layer. Do you know why we don't
talk about those anymore? Because we regulated them away. Senator

(38:20):
Tom Cotton on Guantanamo Bay closure in twenty fifteen, We
should be sending more terrorists there. As far as I'm concerned,
every last one of them can rot. Senator Cotton expressed
strong opposition to closing Getmom, using this emphatic language to
convey his stance. Right, He said, I don't want it

(38:44):
to be closed. In fact, I want more to go there.
So this colorful language, this hyperbolic type of rhetoric that's here.

(39:05):
If you think it's only on one side, it's because
you don't like the hyperboles on the other side, or
you like the hyperboles on your side and you don't
like it on the other. Elizabeth Warren coming in in

(39:27):
twenty seventeen, the Republican Party is just one giant scam.
Senator Warren criticized the GOP, particularly for the context of
the tax reforms back to that twenty seventeen side and healthcare,
using strong language to question their motives. Hey, I don't

(39:49):
think you're doing the right thing. Hey I don't think
they're doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Hey I don't. That doesn't go as far as this. Now,
is the rhetoric getting out of hand? Are people taking
things literally when they should not? Yes? Mostly I blame
the fact that literally isn't a word anymore. Yeah, that's
a word. But in the definition of literally is also

(40:15):
the definition of figuratively. Because again, we listen, but we don't. Wait, wait,
we hear, but we don't listen. We hear the things
that our teachers said, We heard the things that our

(40:35):
English teacher put together, or our social studies teacher or
our science teacher or anybody else that's there, but we
didn't internalize it. And that's okay. Look, we can't all
know everything, and the Google effect affects us every single day.
Why learn anything when all I've got to do is
punch seven words into a search and everything pumps out.

(40:58):
Why retain it? Well, retain it so that you can
send it back out, so that you can use it
in your argument. Back up your opinions, not just form
an opinion and only remember the opinion. Why is that

(41:20):
your opinion? What new information have you brought in that
says that your opinion is what you actually think your
opinion is. Senator Schumer warned of severe consequences if the
Senate refused to consider President Obama Supreme Court nominee. Using

(41:43):
a metaphor to stress the gravity of the situation, he said,
the Senate is playing with fire. Yeah, severe consequences. Have
you seen some of the things that the Supreme courts

(42:04):
put together? Now, by all means, I do love my
tenth Amendment, send stuff back to the states, But are
we going to send the rest of our liberties back
to the states. Are we going to say the states
get to decide inter racial marriage, gay marriage, any marriage.

(42:35):
And I guess if it's not codified or galvanized or
whatever you want to make it into the Constitution, then
it isn't It is another law that could be changed
or manipulated a lot easier than an amendment can. Representative

(42:57):
Michelle Bachman, if you remember her back into when she
talked about the Affordable Care Act, this will be the
end of prosperity in America as we know it. And

(43:18):
so yes, some of the things that you say, hyperbolicly,
hyperbolically could have that grain of truth in it. That's
what makes it effective. If the truth is that I've
got to I don't know, let's go back to Tom Cotton.

(43:43):
If I don't want Guantanamobay to be closed, then I'll
say we need to put more people in there. The
truth is mine. My truth of wanting it to be closed.
Is the tax plan of twenty seventeen any good. I

(44:06):
don't know. You asked me. We're still under it right now.
If we were doing great in the beginning of the
side seventeen sixteen, right on that upswing that we had,
and then for some reason the back half, well not

(44:27):
for some reason, COVID, thank you, and I'll give it
to you. Sure you want to put it there. But
we also had a gentleman that added the better part
of a third of what we have in our debt
right now under one term one term, And so was

(44:51):
Elizabeth Warren Wright. Maybe I don't know, but at the
end of the day, it was hyperbole of it being
one giant scam. May not be a giant scam, may
have been a little scam, little piece here, a little
piece there, But it's that little grain of truth or

(45:15):
that little opinion that you build the rest of the
verbiage around. And so I understand, I get it, I
get exaggeration and how exaggeration can dilute your arguments. But

(45:36):
if you don't like all like hyperbole from the left
or the hyperbole from the right, or the propaganda from
the left or the propaganda from the right, you're not listening.
You're hearing, but you're not listening. They say that the

(46:00):
same words, they just changed the name. You've got everybody
on the left call and everybody else what is it?
Or no, we've got Trump derangement syndrome, we've got wokeism,
we've got Nazism, We've got you're a dirty socialist, you're
a dirty capitalist, you're a dirty communist. All they do

(46:25):
is change the words, Still the same rhetoric, still the
same hyperbole, because you're gonna hear it now, you're just
gonna hear it in a different flavor, especially when they're
talking about the budget or anything else. Right, I remember
when we couldn't raise the debt ceiling. That was like

(46:48):
getting it was like getting an extra credit card if
we couldn't pay for everything. What happened? Massy, And I think,
who's the other one. Paul Ran Paul are the only
two on that side that didn't completely change the narrative.

(47:10):
Where are they? Where are the people that where are
the chip Roys that said adding this much debt or
increasing the debt limit, no fix it? So it's apparent
when you listen, you hear it. You hear it all day.

(47:31):
You hear rhetoric. This, you hear the White House said that,
ABC says this. You get it all day. Anyway, listen,
it's the same song, like you know when when they
take a rock song on the rock stations and then
they like put a little bit more of an acoustic
side to it and a little bit more of its wing,

(47:53):
and you hear it on the country stations afterwards. It's
the same song, slightly different lyrics made for your flavor.
And that's what we have to really look out for. Hyperbole. Sure,
I appreciate you being here on Word Wednesday to learn

(48:15):
all about hyperbole with me, or go through some hyperbole again.
It'll be on our substack, a political talk show substack.
You can find it over there. I believe in you,
and I believe in you so much that I know
you hear it. Are you choosing not to listen. Is

(48:43):
it because it's painful? Is it because you already put
on the jersey? Is it because you bought the hat?
I watched the Doge Committee this morning, Marjorie Taylor Green chairman, sorry, chairperson. Rather,

(49:04):
it's weird to just turn around like, uh you call
women sir in certain sides of it or certain branches
like it. Just I don't know. It's it's back to, uh,
find the neutral side to it. But what I really
liked about the Doge Committee Now, I'm not gonna like

(49:27):
everything that everybody says, and more than likely you are
going to have to fact check things yourself. Now, they
do put articles for things in as evidence. I suggest you.
I suggest you you kind of take notes of what
those articles are because it is literally the congress person

(49:49):
kind of putting in their their like research paper type
of thing for it. Now, granted they probably grabbed it
from whatever news source is nice enough to them. But
what I really appreciated about it, and I watched it
on Forbes. Forbes is actually centered for the most part
higher factuality, not the highest What am I talking about?

(50:14):
Go to Adfonte's Media. You'll be able to find the
grade for Forbes, they take about I think it's like
the last I think it's like the last one hundred
articles or one hundred things that they put out, and
they grade each individual thing itself to where even if
you don't like what it was, you can go directly
to that link, read that article, look at the bias

(50:37):
for yourself or no bias. But what I really liked
about it was I got a really good handle on
multiple different people. What I love about centered platforms is
everybody feels welcome to say something, even if maybe that's

(50:58):
something isn't necessarily the truth or how they feel, or
the hyperbolee that we all put together. I liked it
because we're all Americans. I liked it because we had
the discourse. We had the discussion, we were able to

(51:19):
send those facts and use our hyperboles and not just
completely roll our eyes every single time. We have to
learn how to talk with each other, not just for
political side, not just for the exchange of facts, but

(51:43):
how do we get along anymore? How do we crack
a joke? How do we not take ourselves so literally?
A political talk show. We'll be right back for our
number two. We will go down and read some of
these headlines and go through some of your texts and

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calls right after this.

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