March 28, 2025 • 54 mins
Alex is a professional psychic medium, healer, demonologist, paranormal investigator and artist.
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
H good evening everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you for joining us on a world awakening tonight.
If you happen to tune into Soul School in the
previous hour, then you got to hear my rendition of
how defiant I am sporting a new look tonight, having
had my hair cut off by choice on my sister
(01:44):
April's birthday anniversary. God bless her soul and God rest
her soul. I wanted to express in her honor some
of her fearlessness and feistiness. And I decided a couple
of days ago, the twenty seventh, I guess, yeah, yeah, yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Wow, it seems like so much has happened that I
was going to.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Participate in an act of defiance and tell the cancer
that it's not allowed to take my hair, that I'll
take my hair. And so I did that, and so
here it is and there that is. And you know,
I think that we express strength in a variety of ways.
And my guest tonight, Alex Gaska, is the personification of
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strength and resilience in fortitude, as are many women who
I count among my friends. Interesting story before I bring
her on. Many of you know that I'm friends with
George Lopez and He contacted me a few weeks ago
and he's I had this great woman on our show.
(03:04):
She's just fabulous. You're gonna love her. I have to
connect the two of you. So he starts a three
way chat. That's how he introduced us, and she piped
in and said.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Hi, I'm Alex, and we immediately connected.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We started chit chatting back and forth, back and forth,
and you know, within I don't know, maybe an hour
of us having coffee together long distance and just talking
about different different things. You know the phrase the Lord
(03:39):
giveth and the Lord taketh away.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, George has a very high opinion of himself.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, and so he decided that we were getting
on his nerves and that we would have to go
off and go talk amongst ourselves quietly and not involve
him anymore when he's the one that started the thread.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Don't even get me going so on that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Especially in this day and age. So on that happy note,
I'd like to introduce you to my friend Alex Gevska.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Hello, Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Thank you for coming, for accepting my invitation, and then
for being so cordial and wonderful. Two weeks ago when
you were actually supposed to be on the show and
we had that tragic accident in front of the house
and I had to be outside for a couple of
hours instead of on the shows.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And Bill was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I don't know if I thanked you enough for.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The spur of a moment pulling down the two live
broadcasts and plugging in rebroadcasts, and Lenny what she did
to let people know that I was indisposed.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
She was so kind. She's like, I don't know what
to do. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So she said, we were having technical difficulties, but what
we were really having was a tragedy. And so I
went and did what I needed to do, and you
were so gracious about it. You were so kind, and
I appreciate that very much. It tells me everything I
(05:19):
need to know about who you are at your core
and in your soul.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, definitely. I couldn't not understand with that situation, you know,
like I understand how the universe and spirit works, and
you were pulled to do something really great that night,
even thought it was very devastating, and I can put
anything aside for that, so you know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, well, why don't you tell our viewers who you are,
where you're from, what you do, why you do what
you do, and how much you enjoy it?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Awesome? Okay, So I am My name is Alex and
which you introduced me earlier, but so I am from
Western New York and I'm actually a full time professional
psychic medium. I'm an unpathed demonologist, paranormal investigator, and I'm
an artist as well, kind of jack of all trades
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and kind of very similar to your story. And I
grew up in a very very haunted house and watched
it have a failed exorcism, and I had already been
a psychic medium, I had already been studying demonology, and
that had just propelled me to go and help other
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people and get answers, and especially after my papa had
passed away in twenty fourteen and then now recently my father,
I feel like that has just like connected me even
deeper to spirit and I desperately feel called to help
people because it's a type of healing you can't go
to a doctor for and people need that and deserve that,
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and it's healing me too as I go. So yeah,
and yeah, people are actually mentioning saw paranormal. So yeah,
I truly after you know, growing up in a haunted
house where nobody believed you. My parents were like, is
she mentally ill? Uh? They even you know, they were concerned,
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as parents should be with the things I was seeing.
I was having hallucinations I was having So they took
me to get psychologically evaluated, not once, not twice, not
three times, multiple times and nothing. I was old enough
to show signs. I was going into middle school by
that time too. I was old enough to show signs
of any psychological or any anything that could have you know, psychosis.
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It's nothing. I had nothing going on. And then when
that activity furthered to where it wasn't just towards me,
it was that second stage of oppression to where nobody
was excluded from So once the exorcism had failed, I
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just went on to try and find more answers and
to help people. And since then I had been doing
readings in my high school and that just kind of flourished.
I was helping teachers, I was they were actually leaving
time in study hall and at the end of class
for me to like read people. It became so popular
in my high school I would have teachers pulling me out,
(08:30):
you know, planning stuff, and we'd be filling up a
whole Dunkin Donuts with some of their families for me
to practice on. And I just it kind of just
grew into something. I never thought it would become my
full time job.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's still definitely a business and an up and coming
thing that I'm building, but for good and not greed,
you know. So yeah, I've kind of just I think
I just found my purpose. There was a lot of
little signs that when I was a kid, when I
was really little, you know how you know how you
go to school and they have those those little shops
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that you can get your parents first Christmas you can
go and like buy them stuff. Well, I was little
and I had a few extra books that my mom
had given me, and I was I was being selfish
at that age. You don't, but I saw this book.
It was a Judy Bloom book with a psychic medium
Crystal Ball on it. And I don't even like Florida
(09:33):
now is oh my gosh, yeah wild.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Because the devil?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah gotcha? Oh gosh, yeah, So you know, I I
saw I saw that. I don't even remember reading it,
But there's just all these little details and connections just wild.
Even after my Papa passed away, I remember seeing a
drawing in the mirror in the dust at my parents
(10:00):
house in my room, and I couldn't understand it. And
it was a drawing. It was a stick figure, but
it was a drawing of a girl with a hat
on and really long hair, which now looks like pictures
that I had taken the past few years. So it's
really interesting. There's just been little little signs that the
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universal spirit has kind of left me to guide me
on that path that I didn't even put the puzzle
pieces together until you know, you're a day older and
then and then you know more than you did yesterday
type of deal.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, Yeah, And it is it is an excursion, it
is a journey. It's a you know, we each walk
our own spiritual path. And you know, I often say
that it's it's not vertical, it's horizontal.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Now, nobody's ahead of anybody else, nobody's behind to anybody else.
You know, there's an equivalency that exists in spirituality and
in that process of the evolution of human consciousness. And yeah,
so it's it is a process, and it is a slow, arduous,
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laborious process.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Mm hmm, excuse me, Oh, you're totally it's the season.
Yeh yeah, I've been so stuffy. I've been struggling with
my allergies today, so I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, okay, I'm in Georgia. Everything is in full bloom.
I don't even want to hear about you know, upstate
New York. You guys are weeks away from what we're
going through.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I should be knocking on wood, so it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, exactly like hit me.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Now, it's you know, one of the things when we
were talking over the phone that I noticed about you
was not only your appreciation and your patience with yourself.
You gave yourself space and grace to evolve at the
rate that you were supposed to. You didn't push it,
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you didn't rush it, you didn't resist it. You just
let it unfold. And I think that that's a very
beautiful process that would behoove more of us to give ourselves.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
That kind of.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Room to grow, you know, because growing pains are a
real thing, and.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You had to find out the hard way. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
My parents, my father was like, this house is not
haunted that's all hocus pocus. This is not real. And
it took him forty years to admit that he was
being what we were seeing, and it's scared the living
daylights out of him.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Same with my father, it was, and especially he struggled
with addictions, so he was once I was out of
the house with my ability, he became the main target
and he was, yeah, yeah, I can absolutely relate. So
it's just like and it was funny because I always
knew we were going to have this conversation and talk
and I was like, it's gonna be weird. I'm not
(13:26):
sure how. There's just been little trickles there, so it
was funny. A year or two ago, I got a
call from Frank Roberts that we made a friend with,
and he was like, you know, I want to talk
about experiences that you had. They're similar. And he was like,
I'm friends with Andrew Parin and Da Da Da. And
I was like, I feel like there's gonna be a
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weird connection here, and then George ended up being the
one to connect us.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, George is pretty weird. There's no question about that. No.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I love Frank too, I love George too. I love
both of them be more different than they are. But yeah,
I mean, if life finds a way, you know, and
we find a way to each other, and it could
be any number of different reasons. I mean, just having
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your name dropped. I heard your name before I met you,
and I didn't know anything at all about you other
than you had an excellent reputation. That's all that I heard.
And I might have heard that from Frank oh wow,
the last time that I was.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
An event with him. I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
All I know is that you had already seated in
my consciousness and so that this was an inevitability.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, like it comes full circle the way spirit guides people.
And like how you were saying, I kind of gave
myself space. I do wish that for everyone, because you know,
I didn't grow up with the easiest upbringing, and I
wasn't always the most positive person. And I think, like
when life gives you leomon, I just you know, you know,
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you kind of just have to make do. And it's
like that my spiritualism, it was my answer, and it
was my healing and it was my savior honestly, and
it helped me give myself that space and grace and
so I just feel like very drawn to help people
get that within themselves too.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Have you used your artwork as an outlet in that.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Respect, Yes, I have. I actually used my artwork as
an outlet for emotion and spirituality. I've used it for channeling.
I've used it for giving people paintings of their pets.
Angel wings there actually that was that was a spiritual one.
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And then of course the Nun that's a highly requested
painting that people ask for a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I have never seen that movie.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I have. I've never seen any of the Conjuring movies
except the one about my family.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't watch horror movies.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't put anything like that into my consciousness.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
The only horror movie I've ever seen in my entire
life was The Conjuring because I had too right, And
that's otherwise. Give me a good Broadway musical or a
wonderful British mystery and I'm perfectly happy.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah. Yeah, literally, I'm such a movie person. I can
go all over with that too. So I've just a
lot of people started to request horror movie paintings. Though
after that they were like, yeah, you know, it's like
whatever people request I'll do commissions. I don't, I don't mind.
I'll sell stuff I already have, and you know, and
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I kind of leave that open. I'll go live on TikTok.
I tell people you don't have to come to me
to pay me. You can come and hang out and
have coffee every morning and have a safe, open space
to talk, and then you can come to me for
a reading if you vibe with me, you know, kind
of like a therapist. You have to vibe with your
therapists or your medium.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, if you don't, it's a waste of time and
for a lot of people, waste of money.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yes, absolutely, because you're not going you're not going to
get that sense of relief if you're if you don't
feel an open sense of communication with that person anyways, exactly.
So yeah, I just kind of leave it open. You
can come for art, you can come to on my
lives to have coffee. You can come to me as
for mediumship. You can come to me if you think
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your house is haunted. I just yeah, I don't know.
I just I and that that's been so healing to
me because I just I really do love what I do,
and I'm a people person. Like down to my core.
So yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Know you need many needs, you know, it's and that's
I think that's truly important and really a gift.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And it seems to me that you are so.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Willing to give up yourself with such ease, and that's
an openness that you have that I share with you.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And so I know that the gift that I give
of my.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Own time and my own attention, my own thoughts, my
own work, my writing, my whatever, that comes back to
me in remarkable ways, just incredible ways. The friendships that
I have built over my career with people that I
would never have had the opportunity to meet and know
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and love if I hadn't taken the plunge into the paranormal,
if I hadn't decided that it was time to tell
my family's story, if I hadn't done that for whatever reason,
inconvenient fear of being ridiculed and belittled, not knowing, you know,
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if there was any security in that endeavor exactly not.
You know, there are so many reasons not to do
what exactly we do in life, the things that we
feel compelled to accomplish because we know I mean, I
think one of the greatest gifts is that moment when
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you realize what your job is on earth, when you
not mission accomplished.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Here's the mission exactly now.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Now you go ahead and start accomplishing it, you know,
piece by piece, one thing at a time, and that's
what you do. But you do that with ease, and
you've got a vibe.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
We have the same. Well, I don't know. My ViBe's
probably you're more mellow than I am. Oh no, I'm
not not really.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh no, I'm a little psychopath.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh good, Oh, excellency, we relate, you know. I have
my psychopathic moments every day every day.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I literally hit the TV for something every day and
my little dog goes.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
But I didn't do anything. Mom. I'm not mad at you.
I am not mad at you. I'm mad at him.
I'm mad at her. I'm mad about this. I'm mad
about that, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And sometimes I have to just leave her on the
sofa and go out on the deck and just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And then it's.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Because it's like that's human. You know, we're spiritual beings,
and we can be spiritual beings all day long, but
we're still living a human experience. So it's just like, yeah,
I have I have no shame. I'll always tell people
because they're like, you're so calm, you're mellow, because it's
like I'm tapping into my course self when I do
what I love and what I'm doing when I'm meant
to do, And like, I think that's why we you know,
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I think that's why the universe meets us halfway when
we when we do what is right for ourselves and
meant for our path, it's like things really do just
come full circle. But yeah, I definitely have a mellow
side to me because I, like I said, I'm tapping
into my highest and best self when I am doing
my work. But I'm definitely still human. So you know,
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a little bit of psychic, a little bit of psycho,
you know.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, I mean, like really, just one letter off makes
all the difference.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It's like half and half tea. You know, you're just
setting a little bit of both, and it is pretty good.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know, it's pretty good. Don't forget the honey exactly,
get the sweetness.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
A little bit of sweetener. Yeah, yeah, And it's a
good balance.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It is, it really is. Now. I think that trying times.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Call for us to rise to the occasion to be
our best self. You know, I tell people on my
other show and this one constantly reassure them that they're
not going crazy, that this is the paradigm shift that
we every one of us is here to expedite that process,
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for us to make that quantum leap out of three
D trapped in the eggshell consciousliness to pecking our way out.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
They're waking up, Yeah, and wake up.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And break out of that shell and be able to
ascend spiritually and psychologically, emotionally, even physically transform from being
trapped in three D to being able to ascend into
three four D and five D and beyond.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
A lot of people are like, what is she talking about?
And then there's a whole bunch of other people that say.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Right on that level, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That explains everything.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Literally and it always right, It depends on like current
consciousness and information given at that time, right, But like yeah, literally,
and like it's it's because you know, as there there
is a big rise in dark energy, so it's calling
everyone to do what they're meant to do. And now
they're waking up because when dark energy rises, so does light. Yes,
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So it's yeah, it appears that that's definitely what's happening,
and people are waking up and is like, they're like,
what is going on? None of this is real, even
though you can go on the CIA documents and you
can read it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yep, yep, this, you know, and a lot of people
are having to face very difficult conclusions, you know, from
this is not what I voted for to this is
not what I expected the world to look like. I thought,
you know, why haven't we learned anything? Why is there
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another war? Why is there you know, devastation and destruction,
and you know, and we see so much of what
is difficult to watch that we're becoming inured to it.
I was doing some research back when I was in college,
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which was like ajillion years ago, about the impact of
the visual mediums television, film, so on and so forth.
And one of the statistics that I came across that I.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Thought was fascinating and horrifying in equal measure was that
between television, films and video games, the average eleven year
old has seen ten thousand murders.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah yeah, and people don't even realize. Yeah yeah, It's
like people don't realize, like even if like your kids
go to bed at night and they have something on TV.
But then it turns to like nighttime and they're watching
like murder document while they're sleeping. That vibration and that
level of frequency, like what do you what do you
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think your subconscious is doing with that? Then ye, and
it can open things absolutely, So when people are like, oh,
watching scary movies, can something happen? Yeah, because you're giving
it recognition. You're striking fear into yourself. So if you
don't do something to raise their vibration afterwards.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Even more than that, Alex, I think that you're relinquishing,
you know, that emotional aspect of yourself. You're empowering what
it's supposed to just be a tool of an emotion.
You know. Fear is that tap on your shoulder, don't
get in the car with that guy, don't go down
that alley. That's the purpose that it serves, and it's
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intertwined with instinct and intuition. But when we relinquish our
power to fear and give put it in the driver's
seatah and let it make the decisions for us.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
It's like manifesting that fear then yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Exactly, And people think, you know, they say, oh, it's
such a low vibration. Actually, fear has a very high vibration,
and the vibration of this planet right now is in
Megahurts is off the charts.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
It's off the charts.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But it's not because we're all happy and holy and
holding hands and singing kumbayah. It's because a thirty story
building collapsed on hundreds of people today in me and
mar and we all saw that happen on TV. And
for those of us that possess a conscience, compassion and empathy,
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we felt that. We felt the sadness and the digging
out of bodies, and we felt the pain of the
people that.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
We will never know, never meet, but they exist.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Yeah, and so we felt that.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, when I see film footage out of Ukraine,
I feel it. But when I see the decimation of
Russian soldiers, I feel that too. You know, you can't
distinguish pain from pain.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Is pain is pain.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
People are people and exactly people are people, And it's
like no matter where who you are or where it's
like I always wish good health upon people.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Because like, oh, send some extra my way.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah I'm doing really.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, as you know, but still I'll take all the
help I can get.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I definitely will send you some good health. But I always, yeah,
I just I always wish people like I really do
just wish the best for people. I've even gotten snippy
when I'm like, why aren't you doing what you could do?
Because I literally just want the best for people always,
And it's like, regardless, you could be doing horrible things
in life and not it, but like it doesn't mean
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I want to see you get murdered or this or that, Like,
so yeah, I'm I always just yeah, I always just
wish good on everyone. And I never I never I
never watch the news, I never get into politics because
for me, I'm like, people are people, and I'm going
to wish good to I'm gonna wish good to everyone,
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and their energy is going to bring in whatever whatever
they are putting out unfortunately, And it's, oh.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm your polar opposite when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
You know all my friends that say I never know
what's going on, I don't pay any attention to it.
My response to that is silence is tacit approval.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I cannot be silent.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And so I look at the world not only geo politically,
because politics factors.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Into all life on the entire planet.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But I also look at it exo politically, like our
galactic family cannot intervene on our behalf. Yeah, they will not,
because then we don't learn anything exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know, if you have a baby that starts to
grow up and it's time to teach them how to
tie their shoes, but all you ever do is tie
their shoes for them. By the time they reach adulthood,
they don't know how to tie shoes. If you always
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were the one that did it for them, they learned
nothing other than by watching you and maybe being able
to replicate that process. So now I stay fully engaged
at all times to my own detriment. I will admit it.
I run to the fire, you run away from the fire.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
With that particularly, yes, because yeah, and I am the
same way. Because yeah, I never judge people for being
like open to that stuff either, you know, because again
everyone everyone's at different places and everyone let you know
what I means, and I can always I'm very big
on like perspective of other people, So I'm very much
like I can always see someone else's perspective, so I
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can always respect it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Nope, Nope, Nope.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I will say it now, and I'll say it a
thousand times before the week comes to an end. I
have zero tolerance for willful ignorance, and Elon Musk can
burn in a special hell that I would like to
stoke the kindling.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
But that's just me.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I feel that way about animal abusers, so do I. Oh,
that's something where I'm like, know what, there's a special
place for you and it ain't here.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, and it ain't here. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's like two weeks ago when I heard you tear
up on the phone when I told you what happened
in front of this house.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, I never heard you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Choke up, and I knew that you would have done
exactly what I did. You know, I know, as difficult
as it was, as painful as it was, that dog
was in more pain than I could ever have been in.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, you know, and to.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Go through that, you know, that's traumatic.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It is.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
It was traumatic for everybody that was involved, everybody, the police,
the animal rescued, the owner, the neighbor, my sister, every
I mean, we were like that dog left this world
knowing that she was cared for and loved, and I
still don't know her name, and I never will. I
didn't know her name, I couldn't even call her by
her name, but she knew I loved her and that
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I was keeping her warm and helping her to be
the best of my ability.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
She definitely did. And you know, it's as upsetting as
it is. You know, I've been in similar situations where
I've actually, you know, I have had dogs dying in
my arms, and it's at that moment, it's just like,
you know what, you just you give up whatever, because
they're the better species. They're not out here killing, they're
not raping, they're not and you know what.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Blowing things up right, drinking ships and killing all the
animals in the ocean.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
And they're not abusing animals like exactly exactly, or hurting
kids or yeah, exactly exactly. So I'm like that's where
I'm like, yeah, I give you give, I give up
everything for animals because they're definitely the better, the better species.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And we all know why the Egyptians worshiped cats, don't
they Oh, they're not from here.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And that's why they say. They will say that dogs
are very sensitive to like lower and her, but cats
they pick up on everything, everything, everything, they watch things
with their everything. They're super in tune. I've you know,
my dog is super in tune to spirit. Don't get
me wrong, but I've had a cat in the past
and that was a completely different spiritual. Yeah, they're just
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they They get all the vibrations and all the frequencies.
And dogs are kind of like you know, sometimes you
look at them and it's like there's nothing between those eyes.
But some of them are very soulful.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Well, if you don't see anything between those eyes.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
They haven't lived a lot of lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Lift it off into another place, you know, Like my
peanut Buttercup is laying over here on my pillow. No,
that's fine, help yourself, and she's snoring. She's sound asleep.
Now she no longer takes her responsibilities seriously because she
used to co hosts the show with me. We get
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and week out every week in my lap, up in
my face to lick the lip lard off my lips.
And I could hold her up like you know, the
lion king showing the baby off, you know, the baby
cub off the baby, the baby. And now she's like, oh,
she's doing a show again. All right, I'll cup a
nap you know. I mean, it's just an attitude. You know,
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You've got dogs with attitude, you've got cats with catitude.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Two totally totally different things.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And yet you know they'll sleep in a big pile together,
which is you know, so what did they understand that
we don't get? You know, what did they understand that
we don't get in terms of you know, I mean
growing up?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I made peace with.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
The other side when I was twelve years old. Eleven
twelve years old?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Right, could you get used to that? You go through that?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
And then like we had to, you know, as far
as and I was broken hearted when my parents sold
the farm. I thought I would live in that house
my whole life. It was the only place that has
ever felt like home to me, regardless of what kind
of paranormal activity was going on in the house. I
had a sense of belonging and a familial sense. And
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even though we never established any connection between our family
and our ancestry and anybody that lived in that farm
for eight generations before we arrived, we were the first
outsiders you ever live in that house, and yet I
had a profound sense of belonging there and I miss
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it every day and it's a permanent part of my consciousness.
It's a permanent part of my story.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I was going to say that is a huge piece
to the beginning of your journey in this lifetime. So
that's what. It's just something you hold near and dear
for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, and my mom said before she passed away that
she had no fear of death at all because she
learned everything that she needed to know about life and
death in the afterlife from the ten years that we
spent living in the farmhouse.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
No, her energy, I've got it, not to interrupt you.
I remember our talk on the phone, and her energy
is just Yeah, she's a very peaceful person.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yes, she's also a very strong person. And she used
to tell us fear of the living, not the dead.
That it is, you know, those that are in a
position to exert power over others that are the most dangerous.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, the powers of authority, because it's like that ego
and they get carried away with that and it takes agreed.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I mean, really, there's a common denominator that exists not
just here but all over the world. Yes, you know,
and that is you know, anything there there's just nothing
that will get in the way of somebody's desire for
more money, as though they could take it with them.
(37:17):
You know, I don't get There's an old stage play
called You Can't Take It with You, which bears revisiting,
you know. I think societally people should rewatch it. If
they've never seen it, find it because it's a it's
a great play, and it's got a very important lesson.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
The only the only thing, as far as I am concerned,
the only thing worth doing with money other than basic subsistence,
you know, keeping a roof over your head, food on
the table, yah, car.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Is to do whatever you can to help other.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
People exactly exactly, Like if I I always tell people,
they're like, well, why would you want to get known
for what you do? And I was like, because I'm
doing what I who doesn't want to get known for
doing what they love? And if it helps, it's for good,
not greed, for good not greed. And it's like that's
at the end of the day, love and authenticity or
(38:17):
the key, that's like what matters.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, I often say if I could afford to give
all my books away, I would, I would, I would.
It's my livelihood and it's literally my only source of income.
Since I've been sick, I can't travel, and you know,
it's been really difficult. I've had a couple of years
now where I've kind of been off the road, and
(38:43):
you know, I took a financial hit coming off of
COVID where everything that I was scheduled for was canceled
within two week period. I've been playing catch up since
twenty twenty. And you know what, I don't care. I
don't I'll find a way. I always find away no,
and I make sure that when and I'm sure the
(39:06):
same is true of you too. I make sure when
I sell my books that the people that I sell
my books to I engage with, I answer questions. I
make sure that when I'm shipping books out that there
are gifts in the box, there's something personal, there's a
(39:26):
handwritten card, there's something for that individual, because it is
our connection that will will cause what is profound about
the story to surface and what is an I don't
know if you can say the same, but I can
say for us as a family that I felt that
(39:52):
in a way the film misrepresented the true meaning of
the story because I think of it as a love
story with a wicked supernatural twist and a weird thinks
of it as a horror story, you know, about a
loving family, and so it's kind of flipped on its face,
(40:12):
you know. It's it's not representative of the film, is
not representative of what really happened, the.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Truth that Hollywood twist of Yeah, what they think.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Is acceptable for societally.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Except what people want to see.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, right, you know, and so they resort to method
and formula and what filled theaters before this movie. Now
we'll stick to that, you know, And that's fine. I mean,
that's fine. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
It just would have been nice because you've written these
books and it's like to represent the actual experiences and
that what it really Yeah, I can see it though,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, I'm on it.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Everything happens precisely when it's supposed to, absolutely perfect time,
with purpose and reason to everything. There's no such thing
as coincidence, in my opinion. That's a really fancy word
to explain away the otherwise inexplicable events of life.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Agreed. I always say that, I'm like, there isn't coincidence
because when you think about it, when that happened, what
else happened within that day that just came full circle
for you. And how do you explain that?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's but you know, your experience was I
think probably because your parents rejected your gifts, were suspicious
of your gifts, and concern that maybe there was something
wrong with you, when essentially there was an awful lot.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
That was right with you.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
And I know, I've I've spoken about this a lot,
and I think that where that's part of the.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
The raising of our consciousness.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Absolutely, if you raise your child to be honest and
to tell you the truth, and to be able to
trust you to tell you the truth, and then you
say to that child when they tell you the truth,
that didn't happen, that's a lie, that's your imagination. You
(42:31):
were only having a dream. That's not real. Snap out
of it and step into reality.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Kid. What does that do to that child?
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
The proper question is if you're the mother and the
child comes out of the room and says, Grandpa, grandma
came and read me a bedtime story last night, instead
of saying, your grandmother died before you were born.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
That did not happen. You were dreaming, You were YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Instead of saying that and shutting her down, that ability
to communicate in that child with spirit that loves that
child the right and proper questions.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
The line of questions should be she did, what did
she read you? What was she wearing? Did she mention
me exactly?
Speaker 2 (43:21):
How was she doing? Is she coming back? Did you
sleep peacefully? Was it a nice visit?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
And you know, I think a big thing is, you know,
my family's very like old school and traditional, and it
was almost taboo to talk about these experiences sot as
I was growing up. But another thing that I noticed
is that like, you go to school and what do
they teach you? A lot of limits. So then you
hear those things and it's almost like people don't know
(43:50):
how to react to it because they're like, well, that's
not real. And it's like what school taught you? That
school taught you. That wasn't real because they're not teaching
you everything. They're teaching you the basics for what you
need for life, they're not teaching you that stuff. So
it's like yeah, I do, Yeah, I see a lot.
I see parents that are like, you know, that kid,
(44:11):
there's got to be something wrong. Da da da. Well,
while to a degree. It's okay to get them psychologically evaluated,
but it's also absurd to not hear your kid out.
And because when you're a kid, you're a sponge and
you also are limitless. You are not thinking. You haven't
gone to school for all these years to be taught limits.
(44:32):
So that's why kids they can they're more susceptible to
a spiritual or paranormal experience. They're just not closed off
yet the way the world had. You know, they haven't
had these taxins in their body to close them off.
They haven't had people limiting them. And so yeah, to
listen to your kids is here now, I will say now,
of course, as I grew older, my parents definitely came around,
(44:56):
and my mom's like my number one fan. But all
it used to freak my bother out.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But see then again, Alex, what is the common denominator?
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Fear?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Absolutely, your dad was afraid. I'm sure your dad loves
you very much and loved you when you were a child,
and was afraid that something was wrong with you because
you were different.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Very very and you know, they didn't have anybody else
talking about that, right.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It was very much a taboo subject, at least back
in the seventies when we were having our experiences, it
was definitely.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
A taboo subject.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I got threatened with expulsion from high school and I
was a straight A student or talking about it in
a classroom.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
So you know, I've had my traumas.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I mean, when you're physically abused by the principle of
your school, you know, shoved up against a wall, slapped
it across the mouth, and told, don't you ever talk
about this again, because if you do, you won't not
only will you not graduate from high school, you won't
get into any college.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Yeah, because people just they don't know how to react
in it.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, and he was terrified, and he was very ugly,
and he was very mean about.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
It to me.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Yeah, and I'm sure you had to go through that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
About it For decades.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Outside of our family and our very small circle of
friends that had actually had experiences in the house, you know,
it did not get discussed.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
And then.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
It went off. Then I didn't care anymore. I just
reached an age where I didn't care anymore. Who said what,
who believed us, who accepted it, who you know, just
trashed us. I didn't care because story the significance of
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the story was more important than any criticism that I
might have received from telling it.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, exactly. And it's like, when you're in that moment
experiencing anything, if you weren't there, you will never understand
what it feels like to watch something happen that you
weren't ever told about. And it's happening but you were
told it wouldn't ever really be real or happy. You
question your reality in that very moment.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Oh, I question my reality every day.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I know, right, it's not even in that moment. Day
is the moment I wake up?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
No, you know, yeah, absolutely well. You channel your emotions
through your artwork. I channel mine through my writing, and
you know, and doing this this kind of exchange, you know.
And the thing that's wonderful is we don't.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Have to agree about everything. We don't, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And I'm not just you, but any of my guests
that come on, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I don't select.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
People because they maintain my exact point of view. I
select people to come onto the show because they bring
something else.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
They bring a different perspective, a higher perspective in some respects.
You know, people that I have had that have come
on where did that sound come.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
From I'm so sorry that might have been. It might
have been.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I kept trying to do It.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Sounded like it came from behind me, which was very
strange because I know that my sister took her phone
to bed, and my phone's right here and the volume
is turned off. But it sounded like it came from
behind me. That was very weird.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I'm so sure. I kept thought. I kept thinking, I'm
like prushing the mute button, and I think I was
turning it up the whole time. And I'm like, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
You know, it's a good thing we're not doing in
soul School instead of a world awakening, because when these
things happen in soul School, I'm sorry, you have to
go to detention for a little while. And although I've
never sent Geft to detention, I've never sent Jeff to detention,
not that he hasn't deserved it from time to time.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Oh, we have a wonderful way. You know.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
It's interesting too, because anybody that's watching the show tonight
and just finished watching Soul School is.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Probably sitting there.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Wow, they're talking about a lot of the same things,
you know.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
I mean, yeah, we are you know, the the we're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
The whole notion of suffering is sanctuary, you know, and
the grief causes us to evolve. We talked a lot
about empathy for other people, and you know, it's and
it's a wonderful.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Aspect of the paranormal.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
You know. I tell people all the time when I open,
well I used to anyway, when I used to election, no,
there's nothing, say there's nothing, there is nothing. Well, you
know what, I'm gonna take that back because it could
be something.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
You know, my mother could have just popped in for it.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Well you would.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Now you let me know if my mother just popped in,
and why they're acting the full you know. The thing
that's most interesting to me about this is that I find,
by and large, the happiest people I know are obsessed
with death.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
But it's not that we're obsessed with death.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
It is that, you know that it might seem that way.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Excuse me, excuse me, step that.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
It's they're obsessed with life, yeah, and the after life
and loving life so much that they want to make
sure that it goes on some way, somehow, in some form. Now,
that's the most important thing is that This isn't the
end all be all, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
(51:16):
That there is something beyond our mortal existence. And that's
why I think pariormal people are the most interesting and
the most inquisitive fascinated, and that curiosity is a driving
force that often stays with them life long. So it's
(51:39):
so we need to get together. You know, Bill lives
up in your neck of the woods. Yeah, in New
York too, you know, in the frozen tundra.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
You people are nuts living there on purpose.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
But oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, I'm a Rhode Island Okay, so believe me.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
But yeah, he's telling us we only have three minutes left,
and now we probably only have two minutes left.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
But I would love to have you back on.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
And and we will maybe even bring George on for laughs,
you know. And then what we'll do is we'll get
like halfway through the show and just.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Kick him out.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
And kick him out.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yes, nobody out there who knows George, tell him that
this happened, that this little conspiracy is not concocted.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Oh Bill, you're gonna wrap me out. You're gonna left
me out for George.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
But I will say this, Alex, I'm gonna see if
I can get you to the Pine Bush Paranormal and
UFO Museum to do a presentation. Really, oh yeah, I
have the insight on that.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yeah he does, so all right, Yeah he's your neighbor.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
Well, she's in western New York. She's a little far
from me. I'm in in the Hudson Valley, so she's
a few hundred miles to my north and west.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Oh, it's just around the corner.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I live in Georgia, for God's sake, to half an
hour to go to the grocery store.
Speaker 4 (53:04):
She's like, come, now, got much right, Alex, It hasn't.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
It really has not here at least maybe you're by
the lakes that's different, but not here.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
What was that snow? We got snow the other day again?
And I was like you, you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
It's fifty five degrees here right now. So I don't
want to say anything but you.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
And yet you did say it, And yet you actually
said it out loud.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
I mean haunting.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
I mean, I've got forty four degrees right now. I'll
take it.
Speaker 5 (53:33):
Exactly, but I want to remind him. But in the
show description you can find all the links to Alex's pages.
It's whether it's TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, everything's there in the description.
And you both were wonderful tonight and Alex, like she said, well,
it's always a pleasure to have you back in the future.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
Yeah, I really appreciate that. Thank you both.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
See you.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Let it stame touch because I'm going to work on
that with for you.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Yeah, and he will. Yeah, Okay, I'll give you some
personal phone number.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yes, yes, okay, awesome, ladies, because.
Speaker 5 (54:02):
We got to reap.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Love you all.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Be the light you seek, Be the light you seek
in this fucked up world.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Be the light, love you.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
Good night, y'all. Thank you,
H good evening everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you for joining us on a world awakening tonight.
If you happen to tune into Soul School in the
previous hour, then you got to hear my rendition of
how defiant I am sporting a new look tonight, having
had my hair cut off by choice on my sister
(01:44):
April's birthday anniversary. God bless her soul and God rest
her soul. I wanted to express in her honor some
of her fearlessness and feistiness. And I decided a couple
of days ago, the twenty seventh, I guess, yeah, yeah, yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Wow, it seems like so much has happened that I
was going to.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Participate in an act of defiance and tell the cancer
that it's not allowed to take my hair, that I'll
take my hair. And so I did that, and so
here it is and there that is. And you know,
I think that we express strength in a variety of ways.
And my guest tonight, Alex Gaska, is the personification of
(02:43):
strength and resilience in fortitude, as are many women who
I count among my friends. Interesting story before I bring
her on. Many of you know that I'm friends with
George Lopez and He contacted me a few weeks ago
and he's I had this great woman on our show.
(03:04):
She's just fabulous. You're gonna love her. I have to
connect the two of you. So he starts a three
way chat. That's how he introduced us, and she piped
in and said.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Hi, I'm Alex, and we immediately connected.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We started chit chatting back and forth, back and forth,
and you know, within I don't know, maybe an hour
of us having coffee together long distance and just talking
about different different things. You know the phrase the Lord
(03:39):
giveth and the Lord taketh away.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, George has a very high opinion of himself.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, and so he decided that we were getting
on his nerves and that we would have to go
off and go talk amongst ourselves quietly and not involve
him anymore when he's the one that started the thread.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Don't even get me going so on that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Especially in this day and age. So on that happy note,
I'd like to introduce you to my friend Alex Gevska.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Hello, Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Thank you for coming, for accepting my invitation, and then
for being so cordial and wonderful. Two weeks ago when
you were actually supposed to be on the show and
we had that tragic accident in front of the house
and I had to be outside for a couple of
hours instead of on the shows.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And Bill was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I don't know if I thanked you enough for.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The spur of a moment pulling down the two live
broadcasts and plugging in rebroadcasts, and Lenny what she did
to let people know that I was indisposed.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
She was so kind. She's like, I don't know what
to do. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So she said, we were having technical difficulties, but what
we were really having was a tragedy. And so I
went and did what I needed to do, and you
were so gracious about it. You were so kind, and
I appreciate that very much. It tells me everything I
(05:19):
need to know about who you are at your core
and in your soul.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, definitely. I couldn't not understand with that situation, you know,
like I understand how the universe and spirit works, and
you were pulled to do something really great that night,
even thought it was very devastating, and I can put
anything aside for that, so you know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, well, why don't you tell our viewers who you are,
where you're from, what you do, why you do what
you do, and how much you enjoy it?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Awesome? Okay, So I am My name is Alex and
which you introduced me earlier, but so I am from
Western New York and I'm actually a full time professional
psychic medium. I'm an unpathed demonologist, paranormal investigator, and I'm
an artist as well, kind of jack of all trades
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and kind of very similar to your story. And I
grew up in a very very haunted house and watched
it have a failed exorcism, and I had already been
a psychic medium, I had already been studying demonology, and
that had just propelled me to go and help other
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people and get answers, and especially after my papa had
passed away in twenty fourteen and then now recently my father,
I feel like that has just like connected me even
deeper to spirit and I desperately feel called to help
people because it's a type of healing you can't go
to a doctor for and people need that and deserve that,
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and it's healing me too as I go. So yeah,
and yeah, people are actually mentioning saw paranormal. So yeah,
I truly after you know, growing up in a haunted
house where nobody believed you. My parents were like, is
she mentally ill? Uh? They even you know, they were concerned,
(07:23):
as parents should be with the things I was seeing.
I was having hallucinations I was having So they took
me to get psychologically evaluated, not once, not twice, not
three times, multiple times and nothing. I was old enough
to show signs. I was going into middle school by
that time too. I was old enough to show signs
of any psychological or any anything that could have you know, psychosis.
(07:47):
It's nothing. I had nothing going on. And then when
that activity furthered to where it wasn't just towards me,
it was that second stage of oppression to where nobody
was excluded from So once the exorcism had failed, I
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just went on to try and find more answers and
to help people. And since then I had been doing
readings in my high school and that just kind of flourished.
I was helping teachers, I was they were actually leaving
time in study hall and at the end of class
for me to like read people. It became so popular
in my high school I would have teachers pulling me out,
(08:30):
you know, planning stuff, and we'd be filling up a
whole Dunkin Donuts with some of their families for me
to practice on. And I just it kind of just
grew into something. I never thought it would become my
full time job.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's still definitely a business and an up and coming
thing that I'm building, but for good and not greed,
you know. So yeah, I've kind of just I think
I just found my purpose. There was a lot of
little signs that when I was a kid, when I
was really little, you know how you know how you
go to school and they have those those little shops
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that you can get your parents first Christmas you can
go and like buy them stuff. Well, I was little
and I had a few extra books that my mom
had given me, and I was I was being selfish
at that age. You don't, but I saw this book.
It was a Judy Bloom book with a psychic medium
Crystal Ball on it. And I don't even like Florida
(09:33):
now is oh my gosh, yeah wild.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Because the devil?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah gotcha? Oh gosh, yeah, So you know, I I
saw I saw that. I don't even remember reading it,
But there's just all these little details and connections just wild.
Even after my Papa passed away, I remember seeing a
drawing in the mirror in the dust at my parents
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house in my room, and I couldn't understand it. And
it was a drawing. It was a stick figure, but
it was a drawing of a girl with a hat
on and really long hair, which now looks like pictures
that I had taken the past few years. So it's
really interesting. There's just been little little signs that the
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universal spirit has kind of left me to guide me
on that path that I didn't even put the puzzle
pieces together until you know, you're a day older and
then and then you know more than you did yesterday
type of deal.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, Yeah, And it is it is an excursion, it
is a journey. It's a you know, we each walk
our own spiritual path. And you know, I often say
that it's it's not vertical, it's horizontal.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Now, nobody's ahead of anybody else, nobody's behind to anybody else.
You know, there's an equivalency that exists in spirituality and
in that process of the evolution of human consciousness. And yeah,
so it's it is a process, and it is a slow, arduous,
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laborious process.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Mm hmm, excuse me, Oh, you're totally it's the season.
Yeh yeah, I've been so stuffy. I've been struggling with
my allergies today, so I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, okay, I'm in Georgia. Everything is in full bloom.
I don't even want to hear about you know, upstate
New York. You guys are weeks away from what we're
going through.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I should be knocking on wood, so it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, exactly like hit me.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Now, it's you know, one of the things when we
were talking over the phone that I noticed about you
was not only your appreciation and your patience with yourself.
You gave yourself space and grace to evolve at the
rate that you were supposed to. You didn't push it,
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you didn't rush it, you didn't resist it. You just
let it unfold. And I think that that's a very
beautiful process that would behoove more of us to give ourselves.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
That kind of.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Room to grow, you know, because growing pains are a
real thing, and.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You had to find out the hard way. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
My parents, my father was like, this house is not
haunted that's all hocus pocus. This is not real. And
it took him forty years to admit that he was
being what we were seeing, and it's scared the living
daylights out of him.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Same with my father, it was, and especially he struggled
with addictions, so he was once I was out of
the house with my ability, he became the main target
and he was, yeah, yeah, I can absolutely relate. So
it's just like and it was funny because I always
knew we were going to have this conversation and talk
and I was like, it's gonna be weird. I'm not
(13:26):
sure how. There's just been little trickles there, so it
was funny. A year or two ago, I got a
call from Frank Roberts that we made a friend with,
and he was like, you know, I want to talk
about experiences that you had. They're similar. And he was like,
I'm friends with Andrew Parin and Da Da Da. And
I was like, I feel like there's gonna be a
(13:47):
weird connection here, and then George ended up being the
one to connect us.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, George is pretty weird. There's no question about that. No.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I love Frank too, I love George too. I love
both of them be more different than they are. But yeah,
I mean, if life finds a way, you know, and
we find a way to each other, and it could
be any number of different reasons. I mean, just having
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your name dropped. I heard your name before I met you,
and I didn't know anything at all about you other
than you had an excellent reputation. That's all that I heard.
And I might have heard that from Frank oh wow,
the last time that I was.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
An event with him. I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
All I know is that you had already seated in
my consciousness and so that this was an inevitability.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, like it comes full circle the way spirit guides people.
And like how you were saying, I kind of gave
myself space. I do wish that for everyone, because you know,
I didn't grow up with the easiest upbringing, and I
wasn't always the most positive person. And I think, like
when life gives you leomon, I just you know, you know,
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you kind of just have to make do. And it's
like that my spiritualism, it was my answer, and it
was my healing and it was my savior honestly, and
it helped me give myself that space and grace and
so I just feel like very drawn to help people
get that within themselves too.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Have you used your artwork as an outlet in that.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Respect, Yes, I have. I actually used my artwork as
an outlet for emotion and spirituality. I've used it for channeling.
I've used it for giving people paintings of their pets.
Angel wings there actually that was that was a spiritual one.
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And then of course the Nun that's a highly requested
painting that people ask for a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I have never seen that movie.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I have. I've never seen any of the Conjuring movies
except the one about my family.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't watch horror movies.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't put anything like that into my consciousness.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
The only horror movie I've ever seen in my entire
life was The Conjuring because I had too right, And
that's otherwise. Give me a good Broadway musical or a
wonderful British mystery and I'm perfectly happy.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah. Yeah, literally, I'm such a movie person. I can
go all over with that too. So I've just a
lot of people started to request horror movie paintings. Though
after that they were like, yeah, you know, it's like
whatever people request I'll do commissions. I don't, I don't mind.
I'll sell stuff I already have, and you know, and
(16:45):
I kind of leave that open. I'll go live on TikTok.
I tell people you don't have to come to me
to pay me. You can come and hang out and
have coffee every morning and have a safe, open space
to talk, and then you can come to me for
a reading if you vibe with me, you know, kind
of like a therapist. You have to vibe with your
therapists or your medium.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, if you don't, it's a waste of time and
for a lot of people, waste of money.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yes, absolutely, because you're not going you're not going to
get that sense of relief if you're if you don't
feel an open sense of communication with that person anyways, exactly.
So yeah, I just kind of leave it open. You
can come for art, you can come to on my
lives to have coffee. You can come to me as
for mediumship. You can come to me if you think
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your house is haunted. I just yeah, I don't know.
I just I and that that's been so healing to
me because I just I really do love what I do,
and I'm a people person. Like down to my core.
So yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Know you need many needs, you know, it's and that's
I think that's truly important and really a gift.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And it seems to me that you are so.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Willing to give up yourself with such ease, and that's
an openness that you have that I share with you.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And so I know that the gift that I give
of my.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Own time and my own attention, my own thoughts, my
own work, my writing, my whatever, that comes back to
me in remarkable ways, just incredible ways. The friendships that
I have built over my career with people that I
would never have had the opportunity to meet and know
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and love if I hadn't taken the plunge into the paranormal,
if I hadn't decided that it was time to tell
my family's story, if I hadn't done that for whatever reason,
inconvenient fear of being ridiculed and belittled, not knowing, you know,
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if there was any security in that endeavor exactly not.
You know, there are so many reasons not to do
what exactly we do in life, the things that we
feel compelled to accomplish because we know I mean, I
think one of the greatest gifts is that moment when
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you realize what your job is on earth, when you
not mission accomplished.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Here's the mission exactly now.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Now you go ahead and start accomplishing it, you know,
piece by piece, one thing at a time, and that's
what you do. But you do that with ease, and
you've got a vibe.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
We have the same. Well, I don't know. My ViBe's
probably you're more mellow than I am. Oh no, I'm
not not really.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh no, I'm a little psychopath.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh good, Oh, excellency, we relate, you know. I have
my psychopathic moments every day every day.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I literally hit the TV for something every day and
my little dog goes.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
But I didn't do anything. Mom. I'm not mad at you.
I am not mad at you. I'm mad at him.
I'm mad at her. I'm mad about this. I'm mad
about that, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And sometimes I have to just leave her on the
sofa and go out on the deck and just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And then it's.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Because it's like that's human. You know, we're spiritual beings,
and we can be spiritual beings all day long, but
we're still living a human experience. So it's just like, yeah,
I have I have no shame. I'll always tell people
because they're like, you're so calm, you're mellow, because it's
like I'm tapping into my course self when I do
what I love and what I'm doing when I'm meant
to do, And like, I think that's why we you know,
(20:50):
I think that's why the universe meets us halfway when
we when we do what is right for ourselves and
meant for our path, it's like things really do just
come full circle. But yeah, I definitely have a mellow
side to me because I, like I said, I'm tapping
into my highest and best self when I am doing
my work. But I'm definitely still human. So you know,
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a little bit of psychic, a little bit of psycho,
you know.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, I mean, like really, just one letter off makes
all the difference.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It's like half and half tea. You know, you're just
setting a little bit of both, and it is pretty good.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know, it's pretty good. Don't forget the honey exactly,
get the sweetness.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
A little bit of sweetener. Yeah, yeah, And it's a
good balance.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It is, it really is. Now. I think that trying times.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Call for us to rise to the occasion to be
our best self. You know, I tell people on my
other show and this one constantly reassure them that they're
not going crazy, that this is the paradigm shift that
we every one of us is here to expedite that process,
(22:09):
for us to make that quantum leap out of three
D trapped in the eggshell consciousliness to pecking our way out.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
They're waking up, Yeah, and wake up.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And break out of that shell and be able to
ascend spiritually and psychologically, emotionally, even physically transform from being
trapped in three D to being able to ascend into
three four D and five D and beyond.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
A lot of people are like, what is she talking about?
And then there's a whole bunch of other people that say.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Right on that level, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That explains everything.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Literally and it always right, It depends on like current
consciousness and information given at that time, right, But like yeah, literally,
and like it's it's because you know, as there there
is a big rise in dark energy, so it's calling
everyone to do what they're meant to do. And now
they're waking up because when dark energy rises, so does light. Yes,
(23:25):
So it's yeah, it appears that that's definitely what's happening,
and people are waking up and is like, they're like,
what is going on? None of this is real, even
though you can go on the CIA documents and you
can read it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yep, yep, this, you know, and a lot of people
are having to face very difficult conclusions, you know, from
this is not what I voted for to this is
not what I expected the world to look like. I thought,
you know, why haven't we learned anything? Why is there
(24:00):
another war? Why is there you know, devastation and destruction,
and you know, and we see so much of what
is difficult to watch that we're becoming inured to it.
I was doing some research back when I was in college,
(24:20):
which was like ajillion years ago, about the impact of
the visual mediums television, film, so on and so forth.
And one of the statistics that I came across that I.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Thought was fascinating and horrifying in equal measure was that
between television, films and video games, the average eleven year
old has seen ten thousand murders.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah yeah, and people don't even realize. Yeah yeah, It's
like people don't realize, like even if like your kids
go to bed at night and they have something on TV.
But then it turns to like nighttime and they're watching
like murder document while they're sleeping. That vibration and that
level of frequency, like what do you what do you
(25:16):
think your subconscious is doing with that? Then ye, and
it can open things absolutely, So when people are like, oh,
watching scary movies, can something happen? Yeah, because you're giving
it recognition. You're striking fear into yourself. So if you
don't do something to raise their vibration afterwards.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Even more than that, Alex, I think that you're relinquishing,
you know, that emotional aspect of yourself. You're empowering what
it's supposed to just be a tool of an emotion.
You know. Fear is that tap on your shoulder, don't
get in the car with that guy, don't go down
that alley. That's the purpose that it serves, and it's
(25:56):
intertwined with instinct and intuition. But when we relinquish our
power to fear and give put it in the driver's
seatah and let it make the decisions for us.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
It's like manifesting that fear then yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Exactly, And people think, you know, they say, oh, it's
such a low vibration. Actually, fear has a very high vibration,
and the vibration of this planet right now is in
Megahurts is off the charts.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
It's off the charts.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But it's not because we're all happy and holy and
holding hands and singing kumbayah. It's because a thirty story
building collapsed on hundreds of people today in me and
mar and we all saw that happen on TV. And
for those of us that possess a conscience, compassion and empathy,
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we felt that. We felt the sadness and the digging
out of bodies, and we felt the pain of the
people that.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
We will never know, never meet, but they exist.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Yeah, and so we felt that.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, when I see film footage out of Ukraine,
I feel it. But when I see the decimation of
Russian soldiers, I feel that too. You know, you can't
distinguish pain from pain.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Is pain is pain.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
People are people and exactly people are people, And it's
like no matter where who you are or where it's
like I always wish good health upon people.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Because like, oh, send some extra my way.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah I'm doing really.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, as you know, but still I'll take all the
help I can get.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I definitely will send you some good health. But I always, yeah,
I just I always wish people like I really do
just wish the best for people. I've even gotten snippy
when I'm like, why aren't you doing what you could do?
Because I literally just want the best for people always,
And it's like, regardless, you could be doing horrible things
in life and not it, but like it doesn't mean
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I want to see you get murdered or this or that, Like,
so yeah, I'm I always just yeah, I always just
wish good on everyone. And I never I never I
never watch the news, I never get into politics because
for me, I'm like, people are people, and I'm going
to wish good to I'm gonna wish good to everyone,
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and their energy is going to bring in whatever whatever
they are putting out unfortunately, And it's, oh.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm your polar opposite when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
You know all my friends that say I never know
what's going on, I don't pay any attention to it.
My response to that is silence is tacit approval.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I cannot be silent.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And so I look at the world not only geo politically,
because politics factors.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Into all life on the entire planet.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But I also look at it exo politically, like our
galactic family cannot intervene on our behalf. Yeah, they will not,
because then we don't learn anything exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know, if you have a baby that starts to
grow up and it's time to teach them how to
tie their shoes, but all you ever do is tie
their shoes for them. By the time they reach adulthood,
they don't know how to tie shoes. If you always
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were the one that did it for them, they learned
nothing other than by watching you and maybe being able
to replicate that process. So now I stay fully engaged
at all times to my own detriment. I will admit it.
I run to the fire, you run away from the fire.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
With that particularly, yes, because yeah, and I am the
same way. Because yeah, I never judge people for being
like open to that stuff either, you know, because again
everyone everyone's at different places and everyone let you know
what I means, and I can always I'm very big
on like perspective of other people, So I'm very much
like I can always see someone else's perspective, so I
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can always respect it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Nope, Nope, Nope.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I will say it now, and I'll say it a
thousand times before the week comes to an end. I
have zero tolerance for willful ignorance, and Elon Musk can
burn in a special hell that I would like to
stoke the kindling.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
But that's just me.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I feel that way about animal abusers, so do I. Oh,
that's something where I'm like, know what, there's a special
place for you and it ain't here.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, and it ain't here. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's like two weeks ago when I heard you tear
up on the phone when I told you what happened
in front of this house.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, I never heard you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Choke up, and I knew that you would have done
exactly what I did. You know, I know, as difficult
as it was, as painful as it was, that dog
was in more pain than I could ever have been in.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, you know, and to.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Go through that, you know, that's traumatic.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It is.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
It was traumatic for everybody that was involved, everybody, the police,
the animal rescued, the owner, the neighbor, my sister, every
I mean, we were like that dog left this world
knowing that she was cared for and loved, and I
still don't know her name, and I never will. I
didn't know her name, I couldn't even call her by
her name, but she knew I loved her and that
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I was keeping her warm and helping her to be
the best of my ability.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
She definitely did. And you know, it's as upsetting as
it is. You know, I've been in similar situations where
I've actually, you know, I have had dogs dying in
my arms, and it's at that moment, it's just like,
you know what, you just you give up whatever, because
they're the better species. They're not out here killing, they're
not raping, they're not and you know what.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Blowing things up right, drinking ships and killing all the
animals in the ocean.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
And they're not abusing animals like exactly exactly, or hurting
kids or yeah, exactly exactly. So I'm like that's where
I'm like, yeah, I give you give, I give up
everything for animals because they're definitely the better, the better species.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And we all know why the Egyptians worshiped cats, don't
they Oh, they're not from here.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And that's why they say. They will say that dogs
are very sensitive to like lower and her, but cats
they pick up on everything, everything, everything, they watch things
with their everything. They're super in tune. I've you know,
my dog is super in tune to spirit. Don't get
me wrong, but I've had a cat in the past
and that was a completely different spiritual. Yeah, they're just
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they They get all the vibrations and all the frequencies.
And dogs are kind of like you know, sometimes you
look at them and it's like there's nothing between those eyes.
But some of them are very soulful.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Well, if you don't see anything between those eyes.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
They haven't lived a lot of lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Lift it off into another place, you know, Like my
peanut Buttercup is laying over here on my pillow. No,
that's fine, help yourself, and she's snoring. She's sound asleep.
Now she no longer takes her responsibilities seriously because she
used to co hosts the show with me. We get
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and week out every week in my lap, up in
my face to lick the lip lard off my lips.
And I could hold her up like you know, the
lion king showing the baby off, you know, the baby
cub off the baby, the baby. And now she's like, oh,
she's doing a show again. All right, I'll cup a
nap you know. I mean, it's just an attitude. You know,
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You've got dogs with attitude, you've got cats with catitude.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Two totally totally different things.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And yet you know they'll sleep in a big pile together,
which is you know, so what did they understand that
we don't get? You know, what did they understand that
we don't get in terms of you know, I mean
growing up?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I made peace with.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
The other side when I was twelve years old. Eleven
twelve years old?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Right, could you get used to that? You go through that?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
And then like we had to, you know, as far
as and I was broken hearted when my parents sold
the farm. I thought I would live in that house
my whole life. It was the only place that has
ever felt like home to me, regardless of what kind
of paranormal activity was going on in the house. I
had a sense of belonging and a familial sense. And
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even though we never established any connection between our family
and our ancestry and anybody that lived in that farm
for eight generations before we arrived, we were the first
outsiders you ever live in that house, and yet I
had a profound sense of belonging there and I miss
(35:39):
it every day and it's a permanent part of my consciousness.
It's a permanent part of my story.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I was going to say that is a huge piece
to the beginning of your journey in this lifetime. So
that's what. It's just something you hold near and dear
for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, and my mom said before she passed away that
she had no fear of death at all because she
learned everything that she needed to know about life and
death in the afterlife from the ten years that we
spent living in the farmhouse.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
No, her energy, I've got it, not to interrupt you.
I remember our talk on the phone, and her energy
is just Yeah, she's a very peaceful person.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yes, she's also a very strong person. And she used
to tell us fear of the living, not the dead.
That it is, you know, those that are in a
position to exert power over others that are the most dangerous.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, the powers of authority, because it's like that ego
and they get carried away with that and it takes agreed.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I mean, really, there's a common denominator that exists not
just here but all over the world. Yes, you know,
and that is you know, anything there there's just nothing
that will get in the way of somebody's desire for
more money, as though they could take it with them.
(37:17):
You know, I don't get There's an old stage play
called You Can't Take It with You, which bears revisiting,
you know. I think societally people should rewatch it. If
they've never seen it, find it because it's a it's
a great play, and it's got a very important lesson.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
The only the only thing, as far as I am concerned,
the only thing worth doing with money other than basic subsistence,
you know, keeping a roof over your head, food on
the table, yah, car.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Is to do whatever you can to help other.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
People exactly exactly, Like if I I always tell people,
they're like, well, why would you want to get known
for what you do? And I was like, because I'm
doing what I who doesn't want to get known for
doing what they love? And if it helps, it's for good,
not greed, for good not greed. And it's like that's
at the end of the day, love and authenticity or
(38:17):
the key, that's like what matters.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, I often say if I could afford to give
all my books away, I would, I would, I would.
It's my livelihood and it's literally my only source of income.
Since I've been sick, I can't travel, and you know,
it's been really difficult. I've had a couple of years
now where I've kind of been off the road, and
(38:43):
you know, I took a financial hit coming off of
COVID where everything that I was scheduled for was canceled
within two week period. I've been playing catch up since
twenty twenty. And you know what, I don't care. I
don't I'll find a way. I always find away no,
and I make sure that when and I'm sure the
(39:06):
same is true of you too. I make sure when
I sell my books that the people that I sell
my books to I engage with, I answer questions. I
make sure that when I'm shipping books out that there
are gifts in the box, there's something personal, there's a
(39:26):
handwritten card, there's something for that individual, because it is
our connection that will will cause what is profound about
the story to surface and what is an I don't
know if you can say the same, but I can
say for us as a family that I felt that
(39:52):
in a way the film misrepresented the true meaning of
the story because I think of it as a love
story with a wicked supernatural twist and a weird thinks
of it as a horror story, you know, about a
loving family, and so it's kind of flipped on its face,
(40:12):
you know. It's it's not representative of the film, is
not representative of what really happened, the.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Truth that Hollywood twist of Yeah, what they think.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Is acceptable for societally.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Except what people want to see.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, right, you know, and so they resort to method
and formula and what filled theaters before this movie. Now
we'll stick to that, you know, And that's fine. I mean,
that's fine. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
It just would have been nice because you've written these
books and it's like to represent the actual experiences and
that what it really Yeah, I can see it though,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, I'm on it.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Everything happens precisely when it's supposed to, absolutely perfect time,
with purpose and reason to everything. There's no such thing
as coincidence, in my opinion. That's a really fancy word
to explain away the otherwise inexplicable events of life.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Agreed. I always say that, I'm like, there isn't coincidence
because when you think about it, when that happened, what
else happened within that day that just came full circle
for you. And how do you explain that?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's but you know, your experience was I
think probably because your parents rejected your gifts, were suspicious
of your gifts, and concern that maybe there was something
wrong with you, when essentially there was an awful lot.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
That was right with you.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
And I know, I've I've spoken about this a lot,
and I think that where that's part of the.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
The raising of our consciousness.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Absolutely, if you raise your child to be honest and
to tell you the truth, and to be able to
trust you to tell you the truth, and then you
say to that child when they tell you the truth,
that didn't happen, that's a lie, that's your imagination. You
(42:31):
were only having a dream. That's not real. Snap out
of it and step into reality.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Kid. What does that do to that child?
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
The proper question is if you're the mother and the
child comes out of the room and says, Grandpa, grandma
came and read me a bedtime story last night, instead
of saying, your grandmother died before you were born.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
That did not happen. You were dreaming, You were YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Instead of saying that and shutting her down, that ability
to communicate in that child with spirit that loves that
child the right and proper questions.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
The line of questions should be she did, what did
she read you? What was she wearing? Did she mention
me exactly?
Speaker 2 (43:21):
How was she doing? Is she coming back? Did you
sleep peacefully? Was it a nice visit?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
And you know, I think a big thing is, you know,
my family's very like old school and traditional, and it
was almost taboo to talk about these experiences sot as
I was growing up. But another thing that I noticed
is that like, you go to school and what do
they teach you? A lot of limits. So then you
hear those things and it's almost like people don't know
(43:50):
how to react to it because they're like, well, that's
not real. And it's like what school taught you? That
school taught you. That wasn't real because they're not teaching
you everything. They're teaching you the basics for what you
need for life, they're not teaching you that stuff. So
it's like yeah, I do, Yeah, I see a lot.
I see parents that are like, you know, that kid,
(44:11):
there's got to be something wrong. Da da da. Well,
while to a degree. It's okay to get them psychologically evaluated,
but it's also absurd to not hear your kid out.
And because when you're a kid, you're a sponge and
you also are limitless. You are not thinking. You haven't
gone to school for all these years to be taught limits.
(44:32):
So that's why kids they can they're more susceptible to
a spiritual or paranormal experience. They're just not closed off
yet the way the world had. You know, they haven't
had these taxins in their body to close them off.
They haven't had people limiting them. And so yeah, to
listen to your kids is here now, I will say now,
of course, as I grew older, my parents definitely came around,
(44:56):
and my mom's like my number one fan. But all
it used to freak my bother out.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But see then again, Alex, what is the common denominator?
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Fear?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Absolutely, your dad was afraid. I'm sure your dad loves
you very much and loved you when you were a child,
and was afraid that something was wrong with you because
you were different.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Very very and you know, they didn't have anybody else
talking about that, right.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It was very much a taboo subject, at least back
in the seventies when we were having our experiences, it
was definitely.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
A taboo subject.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I got threatened with expulsion from high school and I
was a straight A student or talking about it in
a classroom.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
So you know, I've had my traumas.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I mean, when you're physically abused by the principle of
your school, you know, shoved up against a wall, slapped
it across the mouth, and told, don't you ever talk
about this again, because if you do, you won't not
only will you not graduate from high school, you won't
get into any college.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Yeah, because people just they don't know how to react
in it.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, and he was terrified, and he was very ugly,
and he was very mean about.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
It to me.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Yeah, and I'm sure you had to go through that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
About it For decades.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Outside of our family and our very small circle of
friends that had actually had experiences in the house, you know,
it did not get discussed.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
And then.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
It went off. Then I didn't care anymore. I just
reached an age where I didn't care anymore. Who said what,
who believed us, who accepted it, who you know, just
trashed us. I didn't care because story the significance of
(47:04):
the story was more important than any criticism that I
might have received from telling it.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, exactly. And it's like, when you're in that moment
experiencing anything, if you weren't there, you will never understand
what it feels like to watch something happen that you
weren't ever told about. And it's happening but you were
told it wouldn't ever really be real or happy. You
question your reality in that very moment.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Oh, I question my reality every day.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I know, right, it's not even in that moment. Day
is the moment I wake up?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
No, you know, yeah, absolutely well. You channel your emotions
through your artwork. I channel mine through my writing, and
you know, and doing this this kind of exchange, you know.
And the thing that's wonderful is we don't.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Have to agree about everything. We don't, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And I'm not just you, but any of my guests
that come on, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I don't select.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
People because they maintain my exact point of view. I
select people to come onto the show because they bring
something else.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
They bring a different perspective, a higher perspective in some respects.
You know, people that I have had that have come
on where did that sound come.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
From I'm so sorry that might have been. It might
have been.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I kept trying to do It.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Sounded like it came from behind me, which was very
strange because I know that my sister took her phone
to bed, and my phone's right here and the volume
is turned off. But it sounded like it came from
behind me. That was very weird.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I'm so sure. I kept thought. I kept thinking, I'm
like prushing the mute button, and I think I was
turning it up the whole time. And I'm like, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
You know, it's a good thing we're not doing in
soul School instead of a world awakening, because when these
things happen in soul School, I'm sorry, you have to
go to detention for a little while. And although I've
never sent Geft to detention, I've never sent Jeff to detention,
not that he hasn't deserved it from time to time.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Oh, we have a wonderful way. You know.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
It's interesting too, because anybody that's watching the show tonight
and just finished watching Soul School is.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Probably sitting there.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Wow, they're talking about a lot of the same things,
you know.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
I mean, yeah, we are you know, the the we're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
The whole notion of suffering is sanctuary, you know, and
the grief causes us to evolve. We talked a lot
about empathy for other people, and you know, it's and
it's a wonderful.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Aspect of the paranormal.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
You know. I tell people all the time when I open,
well I used to anyway, when I used to election, no,
there's nothing, say there's nothing, there is nothing. Well, you
know what, I'm gonna take that back because it could
be something.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
You know, my mother could have just popped in for it.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Well you would.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Now you let me know if my mother just popped in,
and why they're acting the full you know. The thing
that's most interesting to me about this is that I find,
by and large, the happiest people I know are obsessed
with death.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
But it's not that we're obsessed with death.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
It is that, you know that it might seem that way.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Excuse me, excuse me, step that.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
It's they're obsessed with life, yeah, and the after life
and loving life so much that they want to make
sure that it goes on some way, somehow, in some form. Now,
that's the most important thing is that This isn't the
end all be all, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
(51:16):
That there is something beyond our mortal existence. And that's
why I think pariormal people are the most interesting and
the most inquisitive fascinated, and that curiosity is a driving
force that often stays with them life long. So it's
(51:39):
so we need to get together. You know, Bill lives
up in your neck of the woods. Yeah, in New
York too, you know, in the frozen tundra.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
You people are nuts living there on purpose.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
But oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, I'm a Rhode Island Okay, so believe me.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
But yeah, he's telling us we only have three minutes left,
and now we probably only have two minutes left.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
But I would love to have you back on.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
And and we will maybe even bring George on for laughs,
you know. And then what we'll do is we'll get
like halfway through the show and just.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Kick him out.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
And kick him out.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yes, nobody out there who knows George, tell him that
this happened, that this little conspiracy is not concocted.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Oh Bill, you're gonna wrap me out. You're gonna left
me out for George.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
But I will say this, Alex, I'm gonna see if
I can get you to the Pine Bush Paranormal and
UFO Museum to do a presentation. Really, oh yeah, I
have the insight on that.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yeah he does, so all right, Yeah he's your neighbor.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
Well, she's in western New York. She's a little far
from me. I'm in in the Hudson Valley, so she's
a few hundred miles to my north and west.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Oh, it's just around the corner.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I live in Georgia, for God's sake, to half an
hour to go to the grocery store.
Speaker 4 (53:04):
She's like, come, now, got much right, Alex, It hasn't.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
It really has not here at least maybe you're by
the lakes that's different, but not here.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
What was that snow? We got snow the other day again?
And I was like you, you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
It's fifty five degrees here right now. So I don't
want to say anything but you.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
And yet you did say it, And yet you actually
said it out loud.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
I mean haunting.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
I mean, I've got forty four degrees right now. I'll
take it.
Speaker 5 (53:33):
Exactly, but I want to remind him. But in the
show description you can find all the links to Alex's pages.
It's whether it's TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, everything's there in the description.
And you both were wonderful tonight and Alex, like she said, well,
it's always a pleasure to have you back in the future.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
Yeah, I really appreciate that. Thank you both.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
See you.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Let it stame touch because I'm going to work on
that with for you.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Yeah, and he will. Yeah, Okay, I'll give you some
personal phone number.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yes, yes, okay, awesome, ladies, because.
Speaker 5 (54:02):
We got to reap.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Love you all.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Be the light you seek, Be the light you seek
in this fucked up world.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Be the light, love you.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
Good night, y'all. Thank you,
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