June 20, 2025 • 54 mins
Carmyn Subba – Sound Therapist & Energy Healing Facilitator
Carmyn Subba is a sound therapist and energy healing facilitator with over 20 years of experience helping others find balance and transformation. As a Certified Vibrational Sound Therapist, Reiki Master Teacher, and Licensed Massage Therapist, she combines sound, energy, and intention to guide deep healing. Her sound baths create a space for relaxation, release, and renewal, allowing participants to reconnect with their inner harmony.
Carmyn Subba is a sound therapist and energy healing facilitator with over 20 years of experience helping others find balance and transformation. As a Certified Vibrational Sound Therapist, Reiki Master Teacher, and Licensed Massage Therapist, she combines sound, energy, and intention to guide deep healing. Her sound baths create a space for relaxation, release, and renewal, allowing participants to reconnect with their inner harmony.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
No Ah, good evening, everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you so much for joining us tonight for a
world awakening, and for those who have not had the
pleasure yet to meet my guests tonight, my friend Carmen Suba.
You will be thrilled and enthralled with her mystical, magical
tour that she takes you on in terms of our
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ability to heal, and healing brings hope into the world,
and so I, without further ado, want to bring her
on and introduce her to all of you. Hello, my darling,
Hi Andrea, how are you. I'm doing well. I didn't
get a nap intoda, so I'm a little bit logi,
but I'm doing well and a cup of coffee always helps.
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I've got my sorry, I can't mercury is in retrograde
and the nectar of the gods in it, which helps enormously.
But one of the things that I so enjoyed about
meeting you, and I haven't told you this yet, you're
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going to hear it for the first time, but I
felt like immediately I was meeting somebody number one that
I already knew, number two that I had a sense
of familiarity with, and then realizing that we were on
the same wavelength, we were traveling the same frequency. We
were resonating with each other. With every word, we looked
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into each other's eyes like the whole universe was right
there and it was just Having your energy in the
room with me was a brilliant I guess the best
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word that I could use. I could feel you enter
the room before I saw you. People tell me that
all the time. I could feel you before I saw you.
I knew you were there because something changed, something changed.
And you know, Jeff and I just did a soul
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school and we talked about you know, the pastors, the ministers,
the preachers, the you know, the holy people among us
that just passed through our lives and that we encounter
that change us. The air changes. Something changes when you're
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with somebody that's that grounded, that centered, and yet that
ethereal simultaneously and that's you. Wow and thank you. Well,
why don't you tell people what you do, how you
do it, and why you do it?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh? Okay, what I do?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Ima? I am a vibrational sound therapist. I have been
doing energy work for twenty years on top of that,
so what I do for clients on a one on
one basis is, you know, we tailor a session just
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for you and what.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You need out of it.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
We try to accomplish with the tools I have and
I've acquired over the years.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Why I do it, It's a calling.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I don't think I had any choice because I started
out on a different path. But I always came like
there was part of me that knew that this is
what I was supposed to do. The other things I
did were just SpaceHolders until I got to do what
I got to do.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And some days I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Really like, I'm astounded I get paid to do this.
Other days I'm really glad I get.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Paid to do this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
But I also do sound baths and private sound baths,
and that in itself can be transformative and I can
help more than one person at a time.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So that's what I do and why I do it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, you know Thomas Jefferson years ago, when I was
in college, decades ago, I vaguely remember it. We went
to Monticello. We were singing. My choir was singing with
the men's choir at Uva, and while we were on
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our trip, we went there and the tour guide said
that every afternoon he would lay on his bed, just
buck naked, just lay on his bed and take what
he said was an air bath. So and you know,
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I get that, I really do you know, a cleansing,
a purification when you've got all this stuff going on,
or you know, founding a new country and on an
ideology of freedom for all and you know this man
who had slave quarters underneath the house. You know, a
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little bit of counterintuitive stuff going on there, I would say,
But you know, the fact is that we each have
our own way of finding our own path to health
and wholeness and well being, or we don't and we succumb.
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And you know, you and Bill and I were talking
about people who are perceived authority figures thoughts and planting
doubts in our mind and if we accept that, you know,
and I made mention of the fact that I love
my oncologists. She's wonderful. But the first time I met her,
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she told me bluntly, kindly, but bluntly, that the advanced
stage of my cancer was and I don't want to
call it the cancer not mine, I don't claim it,
that it was inoperable and it was incurable. And she
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would buy me as much time as she could in
other words, go home and get your affairs in order.
And my response to that was those words are meaningless
to me. I don't want to hear them again. They
do not function in my sphere. Yeah, and I will
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beat this. And one of these days you're going to
say to me you are cancer free. And she looked
at me, you know, quizzically like okay, and she's well, well, now,
don't be upset, I said, I'm not upset. You know,
I'm not fearful. I don't feel sorry for myself. I
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live in the best country in the world for medical technicology,
the best doctors, the best equipment, the best hospitals, the
best therapies. You know, what do I have to be
upset about? You know, I'm not in a hovel in
Afghanistan hiding my shame beneath a burka, with no one
to take me to the non existent clinic unless I
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can find a Taliban fighter who will escort me, and
I have no resources to get any help. Then you
have a reason to despair. Then it's a death sentence,
not for me. And those words have no meaning for me,
And I have no fear, and I completely surrender to
my faith, and I surrender to the higher ups, all
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of them, you know, work through me. Let me be
the conduit to the self healing, let me be, let
me live into my destiny, which is to defeat this
and then show others how. Yeah. So when you and
I sat it at the healing which was amazing, I
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mean it really was, really was, And all the ladies
just did a phenomenal job of keeping I mean talk
about trying to herd cats, you.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Know, real there were so many people. I know, it
was an amazing, wonderful experience. But the part that I
loved the most was when people would go play the
bulls and that sound would resonate through that conference room
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and you could feel it vibrating in your sternum. I
mean it was just so purifying and so healing and
so and the energy, oh my god, the energy. I
don't know about you, but I left there feeling like
I was floating and feeling absolutely exhausted simultaneously.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, it was intense. That was probably the second night.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That was probably the biggest healing circle I've ever been
a part of, and it was profound, and like, for
three days afterwards, I didn't I really couldn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I don't know what happened to me, but maybe
it was traveling in both directions at forty thousand feet.
But my joints, all the joints in my body hurt
and really robbed and hurt. And I thought, well, you know,
I ran through Atlanta Hartsfield Airport and I ran through
Detroit Airport, you know, and then I danced, like, you know,
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danced were away and singing at the top of my lungs,
and you know, and my friend Jennifer was giving me,
you know, reiki that knocked me flat on my ass.
I mean, thank god she did it when I was
already in bed, because I wouldn't have been able to
get there, you know. And so I thought, okay, well,
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I've just like been bombarded healing energy, and you know,
finally it has subsided. But you know, sometimes healing hurts.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, sometimes, does.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know, Because you're readjusting your chakras, you're readjusting your
you know, like your your physical form is impacted by
the energy that you're being bombarded with. It makes perfect
sense that it might be a little uncomfortable, you know,
not just spiritually or psychologically, but physically uncomfortable. And so
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you know, I went through that and everybody I know
was just I mean wasteoids words, total wasteoids.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
It was such a powerful weekend and it like had
that cumulative effect too, that like the first night was
amazing and you were saying, and it's just you knew
it was. It was helping, and then the next night
it felt like there were double the people and with
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that we all get healing, which is so amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, you know, yeah, so a lot left there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Like that, did I do your I did your third up?
How did you react to that? I never had a
chance to talk to you about it after.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Andrea, I I'm at a whole new level now I've
had I've had I've had attunements, I've had initiations.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
This I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
This was amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
How it's affected me since it's going to be it's
gonna sound wild, but like the natural world is starting
to like come alive a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I'm noticing things in the sky of course, Yeah, I'm
noticing bugs are starting.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
To hang out with me, which is so strange. You know,
I don't mind bugs at all, but bugs.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Are coming to me for some reason. But yeah, everything
has has has like my senses have have increased.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, it does enhance your five senses, absolutely does. Tapping
into your sixth sense, your your an original five, like
to a whole different level. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, there were there were days where there's a there's
a train that's like five miles from my house and
I could hear you know, we can always hear it,
but I had on ear plugs, headphones, hood and I
can still hear the train.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's like, this is wild.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Andrea, it was amazing and like the things that the
things that I'm seeing now are wild.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah. Well, you know, our mutual friend Tom Owen told
me that it basically, I I didn't mean to hit
him so hard. I really, I mean I had to
hold him up. He started tipping backwards. You know. It
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was Yeah, it's a jolt, it is, and I do
forewarn everybody. Plus you got to hold the stone. Yeah,
that came from the crop circle, Yeah, which I had
never taken to an event before. That's such a sacred
stone to me, but something told me to take and
to share it with everybody that was going to be
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at this event and let them feel the energy of it,
feel and you know. That's part of the connection as
well with the higher ups that I like, you know,
our galactic family. And I felt like for me, I
accomplished an important part of my personal mission. I didn't
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go to Houghton Lake just selfishly for me to be healed.
I also wanted. I wanted to be a healer. I
wanted to be able to participate in opening people up
in a way that it's very hard to do when
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you've got three or four hundred or one thousand or
fifteen hundred people at an event and you can only
connect with just so many for a very limited period
of time. And so to have the freedom and the
space to do what we did and the way that
we did it, and then to all go outside and
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to see the sky just lit up that even broad daylight.
Everybody's like, oh my god, they're everywhere, you know, Yes,
they're everywhere, everywhere, all the time, all the time. I know,
and it's so hard to you know, I don't try
to convince anybody of anything, you know, And I never
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do a third eye opening without telling whoever I'm with,
whomever I'm with, that I can't undo it. No, you
tell it. So you have to be ready and you know,
be absolutely sure that you are ready for this to happen,
because I can't reverse it. I can't, and I don't
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think that I am supposed to mm hmm. I think
that it's like being touched by spirit. Once you are
touched by spirit and you know that spirit exists and
spirit is real, you can't unknow that. You can't unlearn it,
you can't unfeel it. It's just how it is, and
it becomes a part of who you are. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But you know I find that with Tom also, you know,
we have we have spoken about uh, drastic changes and perceptions,
drastic changes in energies around you and what you what
you can embrace and what you can no longer tolerate.
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You know, it's it's it's quite it's liberating, but it's
also in order to really really understand and appreciate the process,
you do have to spend some time with it. You
do have to spend some time not an isolation, but
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in a kind of solitary confinement in your own soul.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, getting really quiet.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Inside, yes, yes, peace be still.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I found that too. And oftentimes, you know,
like I'm no stranger to.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
This and how time moves like time really isn't real,
and this third eye opening kind of just like threw
that right back in my face, that you know, things
are happening everywhere.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
All at once, Yes, because we live in a multi
dimensional universe disguised as are dimensional and ironment that is oppressive.
And you know the world is hard and it's filled
with pain and sorrow, and it's also filled with light
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and love and joy, and it's everything all wrapped up
into one thing. But as I told Tom before you
even arrived, the two of you even arrived, I said,
be prepared because there's something about that place where you
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step into the fifth dimension while you were there. I
know that building like the back of my hand, and
every time I go, I get lost. Lenny has to
come find me and bring me to wherever I'm supposed
to be next because I've taken the stairs or the
elevator to the wrong floor, or i went I took
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a hallway that I wasn't supposed to and I was
suddenly outside and you know, and I'm totally disoriented when
I am in that building because I'm not in three
D the entire time that I am there, and and
I don't. I don't hang out in three D that
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much anyway, because uh yeah. But and because I'm able to,
you know, go into fourth dimension and interact with spirit,
and I'm able to go into fifth dimension and interact
with my galactic family because I'm not relegated to staying
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in three D. When I come back to it, then
I can be defiant of it. Then I can say,
you know, no more of this bullshit. You know, I
have to do something to counteract, to be the antidote
to the you know, toxic waste dump that's on fire.
You know, the world is on fire. And you and
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Tom and Deb and countless other people that I know
and love. I believe we are all here, Jeff Tournament,
that we are all here right now working together in
tandem as a collective to help heal the world of
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its woes. Yes, and we each do it in a
different way, but with the same intention, the best of intentions,
always light and love, always leading with love. And I
think the point is that there isn't just one path. No,
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there's a multitude of paths to healing and spiritual ascension.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes, and how we weave it together is art.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It is. It's a tapestry each of us pulls along
our own little golden thread leaves it into the grand
tapestry of life.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I like that. I refuse to I refuse to succumb
to words thoughts that do not make sense to me. Yeah,
you know, I can't feel this alive and be dying.
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I just it's just not possible. So but it took
me being told that I was going to die from
this to feel this alive, if that makes me make sense,
to be defiant in the face of it, yes, you know,
and to say, okay, you know, if I'm supposed to
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have this so that I can heal through it and
then on the other side share that process and bring
hope to others, then yeah, I'll put up with this. Yeah,
go ahead, I'll put up with this. But I don't
accept it, and I refuse to leave this planet. I'm
not done yet.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
No you're not. You're not even close to done.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
No I'm not. And you know there are times sometimes
I lay my head down, I cuddle up with my
little dog and she sound asleep. Such a waste. Somebody
get you high, like what happened to you? She's so cute?
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She's six and a half years old. From the day
that I rescued her, I promised to take care of
her for her whole life. Shiuahwas live an average of
twenty years. Really, yeah, and so I can't break that promise.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Nope, you can't.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's like in the Hindu religion. If you help someone,
if you lift them up, then you're responsible for them.
You know that is and I believe that that is
that we are all each our brothers keepers, our sisters keepers.
You know that if you want to live, as Emerson said,
you know, showing the way to a child is the
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greatest thing that you can accomplish in your life. It
is a true success when you lift up a child,
when you teach a child and lead a child, and
guide a child, a child how to be in this complicated,
difficult world, then you can say you are truly successful
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in life. You know, A very long paraphrase for what
was a much more concise quote, which is escaping me
at the moment. I used to blame COVID, Now I
blame well whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But you didn't have your nap today.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I didn't have my nap today, and I need another
cup of coffee and there's hardly anything left. It's down
hold in the bottom. Oh no, that's okay. I would
like to get some sleep tonight. In a second coffee
would preclude that. So we're good. We're good. I think
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that what you do and how you do it and
your ability to make music a part of the raising
of the vibration, you know, the frequency that you tune
into that you bring your clients along with you, that
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brings them comfort and soothes them and lets them relax
completely in a world where it's really hard to do that.
You know, the level is through the roof, you know. Fear.
Fear is I think that love is the most compelling,
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most intense human emotion, but it holds hands with fear. Yeah,
it does, it does. They kind of fall into the
same category. It's love is good and fear is evil.
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You know it is, and it functions in our lives
because fear is often provoked by acts of evil, and
you know, we're seeing that unfolding day to day in
our own country, where people are terrified to go to work,
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terrified to go to school, terrified to go grocery shopping.
Now because of the color of their skin. I mean
really that's how they're being targeted and profiled now, arrest
first to ask questions later. And we've not lived that
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in our lifetimes. We've not seen that in our lifetimes.
The closest that we have was the Japanese internment camps
in World War Two, again based on fear that you know,
these people are a danger, danger, danger, and I don't
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know how to overcome it. But I do know that
what you do, and I do know that what I
do and what I do with Jeff and what I
do with deb and what I do with Lenny, and
what I do, I hope makes a modicum of difference.
And I know that you hold that hope in your
heart too.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It's not just about holding the vibration.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It's about right, like raising the vibration right, and we
can only do that collectively.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But it's also don't you think of transformation vibration, because
the vibration on this planet, this planet right now is
vibrating off the charts. Yeah, it's generally, for as long
as they've measured the vibration of the Earth, it's always
been somewhere between two point seven gigahertz and seven point nine.
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Then the for as long and now it's it's in
the hundreds. I mean, it's like everything's you know, it
really is, but it's not because the planet is vibrating
at a high level of love. We're vibrating at a
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very high level of fear. And the transmutation that needs
to occur where we relinquish the fear and embody the love.
And you know, I have received many messages, many messages
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in the last six months or so, a lot of downloads,
a lot of intergalactic communicates, and one of them that
I think was one of the most important of all,
was that we will fail at our mission if we
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do not embody the love and shine the light on
what is wrong and make it right. And that requires compassion,
It requires empathy, and a lot of people don't want
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to feel empathy because it hurts. It hurts when you
put yourself, even for a moment, in the shoes of
another one who is suffering immeasurably more than you, any
kind of suffering you have ever known, and you put
yourself in their place for even a moment. It's like
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being struck by lightning. And it hurts. It does hurts
your soul. It hurts physically you'll get a headache, you know.
I mean it's there's a visceral response to empathy and
its purest form, and so it's something that a lot
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of people avoid. And then those among us that are
extremely you know what they call impaths, people that are
extremely sensitive to that kind of energy, myself included, We
suffer not just for them, but with them. And so
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transmutation needs to occur, Yes, not only a transformation, but
a transmutation where these two entities that are basically holding
hands have to flip the switch. Yes, so that love,
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not fear is in control, because fear is there is
legitimate fear. Like am I in Gaza and I'm going
to go line up and try to get some and
I'm going to be shot while I'm standing in line.
That's a legitimate fear because it's happening every fucking day. Children. Yeah,
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gone away while they're standing there with a bucket waiting
to get some soup. Yeah, okay, that's the world that
we're living. You know, people being abducted off the streets
and thrown into unmarked van with masked ma wauters who
refuse to tell you who they are or why you're
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being arrested. That's happening on the streets of America right now. Yeah,
that's the world that we're living. And it's cruel. It's cruel,
it's beyond unkind. You know, when the cruelty is the point,
when the division is the point when the when you
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don't have any rights anymore, when you go from being
you know, an objective viewer of what's happening to the
subject of the abuse. When that happens and you understand
what other people are going through, even if it's just
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that moment that you put yourself in their shoes and
you realize they're not going home to their family that night,
and they might not be in the country in a
couple of days, no due process involved. It's scary. It's
a legitimate fear.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, and it's overwhelming at times, it is.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So what's the antidote? How do we counteract this? The
messages that I have gotten are you know, it's got
to be with love. It's got to be with love.
It's got to be putting up the biggest umbrella that
you can find and inviting everyone in, including people who
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once supported this and now are looking at it going
that's not what I meant. Now, the hardest thing for
a human being to do is to admit that they've
made a mistake. It is very, very difficult because it
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conjugates as failure, and nobody wants to believe that they
are supporting a failed policy, proposition or even person they
had imbued their confidence in. And so talk about a
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big fish to fry, this is a big one. Yeah,
how do you keep yourself grounded that you go do
what you do every day even no matter how you're feeling,
no matter where you are, and you know we all
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have bad days, all right. Do you feel that when
you go do what you do that it is as
healing to you as uplifting for you as it is
for your clients. Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Absolutely, I feel very blessed that, you know, I get
I do modalities that touch me as well. So when
I'm holding space for somebody else, I'm in service and
nothing brings me joy like being in service. But yes,
I do, like have to work to ground myself and
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be intentional with just about everything I do, taking care
of myself and making sure I get my naps. But
you know, there's a lot of time that I spend
in isolation just to recalibrate from being in service to
other people, but I also get the benefits of being
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in service.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Do you feel that it drains your energy and rejuvenates
your energy simultaneous, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
That's an interesting way to put it.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I don't feel like I'm drained by what I do.
But because I am empathic and my clients are suffering,
of course I'm going to be feeling for them and
putting myself in their place and understanding, you know, what's
unfolding for them. So so yes, it does drain me
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from that aspect, but the energy never drains me because
it's it's.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
The universal energy. Yeah, well AAM is the channel for it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, we are the conduits. We are, and you know,
some of us have the luxury of thinking about that. Yeah,
we're not necessarily worried about where our next meal is coming,
or are we going to have shelter for the night.
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We don't have to live like that, and countless millions do.
They don't have the luxury of considering what their personal
philosophy is trying to stay alive, you know. So it's
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it's interesting to me, Carmen that when we connect the
way that we did, when the collective comes to ether
the way that we did in Holton Lake, how it
makes everything brighter. It brings clarity in a way that
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nothing else can, even being in deep meditation. And I
think that community, it really is, it really is, you know,
for you to feel when you are with like minded individuals.
And it doesn't mean you agree on absolutely everything, and
it doesn't mean that you practice the same faith, and
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it doesn't mean it doesn't mean any of that. It's
it's about an energy and a vibration that you share,
that that wavelength that we ride together, you know. And
it's I tell people all the time, spiritual ascension is
not about climbing a ladder. It is horizontal, you know,
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and we're at a different place on our path. But
it's not one person being above or beneath another in
that process. That human evolution doesn't work that way. No,
it is individual. And with each client that you have,
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I would venture to guess that each one of them
leaves being in your presence, ash with emotion, awash with
a sense of wellness. But it's different for every single
one of them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Absolutely, we all process things differently, we all have different
lenses we view things from. But we're all people, we're
all human. And you know, even with that, even like
with all the fear in the world, there's just as
much love.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yes, And I believe that love, love conquersphear. It certainly does.
It didn't, none of us would be here anymore, right,
you know that we would have just killed each other
off too, you know, human beings. The destructive tendencies of
human beings are off the charts.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
And if love was not able to defeat fear and hatred,
which you know, hatred is born of fear, yes, not
the opposite of love. Fear is the opposite of love.
And it's it's just something that we we have to
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a mindset that we have to work to maintain every
day because it would be so easy to succumb to
the darkness. Now, so when you are that that beacon
of light, even if it's just a pin light, you know,
against the darkness of the darkest night, that light shows
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and it wouldn't without the darkness right as the backdrop,
as the grim.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Yeah, it just takes one light. It just takes one
light to light others up. You do it, You do
it all the time.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
I try, you do I do. I try. I try
to live in service to others all the time, and
I try to always lead with love, lead with kindness.
The easiest thing in the world to do is to
be kind It really is. It is. It's the easiest
thing in the world to do, you know. I never
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you know. I had an interesting experience a couple of
weeks ago, and I don't remember what happened prior to it.
I think I just had a doctor's appointment. Yeah it was.
It was Christine and I stopped at Wallyworld while on
the way home from the hospital, and I don't know
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what happened. This does happen to me a lot, but
not like that day. Everybody I made eye contact with
in wally World, row after row after row, we walked
the whole store because we needed pet food, and we
needed this, and we needed that, and of course it's
spread out all over the place, and so I finally
(43:30):
had to walk up to my sister and say, don't
let me make eye contact with him, don't let me
make eye contact with anybody, because She's like, where were you?
I said, I was talking to a woman in Isle eight,
and I was talking to a man in asle six.
Who both came up to me and started expelling everything
(43:52):
that they were holding onto that troubled them or that
touched them that they needed to get out. And you know,
Jeff and I in soul School were talking about that
calling and you were referring to that calling for some reason.
(44:13):
That day, I was just radiating something that was magnetizing
to certain people. And I could just be walking past
someone and make eye contact with them, and in that
second they stopped and engaged me in conversation and their
(44:34):
hearts out to me, five ten minutes at a time.
And that happened five times in one that was supposed
to be a brief stop. And you know, Christine's like, well,
let me give you my baseball cap and you just
put it over your eyes. My head's too big, it
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won't fit in my head, you know. And I don't
know what it is, but it is something. It's the
light that happened.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
It's the light you radiate. It's the light like it
happens to me all the time too.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
It's strangers, perfect strangers that you've never met before, you've
never seen before, and they tell you their most intimate
secrets and their family story and their pain and their
suffering and what makes them cry? And you know where
does that come from? That outpouring of human emotion that
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is so pent up, so internalized within them that it
explodes out of them when they see someone that they
know they can talk to, they know that they can
trust with something that they might never have discussed with
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anyone else ever before. And those moments where I'm extending myself,
where I am pausing, giving them my full undivided attention,
touching them while we talk, sharing that energy, even if
it's just a hand on the shoulder, And then inevitably
(46:20):
they hugged me before they walk on to go get
their soup. You know, I and I don't, but it's
so lovely. It's so lovely. I had a little boy
once at public supermarket. We're standing near that. I was
walking up to the deli and he was there with
his mother, and he just turned and he looked at
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me and he ran to me. He just pulled away
from her and ran and wrapped his arms around my legs.
And that poor woman was so mortified. She's like, oh
my god, he's like this in his life. I said, Oh,
it's okay. It happens all the time, and she's like
what I said, No, it really does. And I got
down on the ground with him and I looked it
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in his eyes and I said, oh my god, you're
the most beautiful little boy I've ever seen. What is
your name? And he said, I'm Gabriel. I was named
after an archangel. Fuck, you know that's my arch angel.
That's the woe that watches over me, so says a
number of mystics. And and yeah, there he was. No,
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I mean that was a spiritual experience at the deli
of a public supermarket.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, they can have They can happen anywhere, can't they.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
It was miraculous. It was Watch for the Miracles, Watch
for the Miracles. Yes, my sister was had gone shopping
a few weeks ago. I told the story. You probably
heard it because you watched the show all the time.
But a woman walked an elderly woman walked up to
her and handed her a big, beautiful bouquet of flowers
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and just, you know, just out of noware she just
showed up. And Christine was so taken by it. She
was so shocked. She's like, she didn't know this woman,
and but she walked up to her. The side of
the car. Chris rolled down her window and the woman
handed her this massive, beautiful bouquet of flowers. And after
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they engaged for a few moments and Chris like, are
you sure? I get you know why? You know? They
had this lovely little back and forth and she thanked
her profusely, and she leaned over and she put the
flowers on the passenger seat, and when she turned back around,
that woman was gone. I love that side of the car.
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She looked all over a few seconds, looked all over
the parking lot, and that woman was gone. And she
came home and she's like ann, oh my god, I
have to I'm like, where you bought flowers? She's like, no,
they were given to me and told me the story,
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and it just it was so uplifting. It was so beautiful,
it was so sacred, it was so holy. It was
so precious and having those moments and I know you
do too, and I know Tom does too. Yeah, that's
part of it.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, that's really.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Magic, the supernatural aspect of our natural world. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, when you look for it, it's everywhere too.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, everywhere. Expect a miracle right around you all the time.
And when you live in that place and heart. When
you live in that mindset, when everything is beautiful, even
on the ugliest day, you can still find the beauty.
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I know what you mean about I mean I I
love hummingbirds. And my mother always had a yard full
of feeders from the first Scouts in Georgia usually show
up in mid March, and that's when the feeders went out.
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And this year, Christine put all the feeders out in
the same place that they've always been, and not one
hummingbird came, not one. And I thought maybe they were
coming from Mom. Maybe her attachment to them was why
they would come here and nest here and have their
babies and raise their babies here on this property because
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we're surrounded by forest. And I was heartbroken that not
a single one had either of us seen all through
the spring. And yesterday morning, no, this afternoon, there was
a hummingbird feeding in my sister's plant, the flowers that
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she and I bought the day of our mother's one
year anniversary of for passing.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Oh that's so beautiful, Oh that's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
There it was ruby throated, which was my mom's favorite.
Always the green isn't with the ruby throats very well,
so beautiful. Only one that we've seen all spring into
now summer, and it is the solstice, my sister, perfect
timing it is. So let us go forward, You and
(51:37):
I Yes, and all of our ilk as birds of
a feather do tend to flock together. Yes, And I
will see you again in September. And everybody that can
get there needs to come to the UFO contact in
Houghton Lake, in the hotel that's in the fifth dimension.
(51:59):
For some reason, I think maybe the lay lines. I'm
not sure, deb.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
I think it's I think it's definitely the lay.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Lines have something to do with it. Something and the water,
Oh my god. Yeah. But we will. We will get
together again, and we will hold hands and we will
make the bulls sing and we will sing, and we
will bring our light and our love together in unison
into the world and raise the vibration. And I love you.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Carl, I love you.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
You're pressed so much. We will do this again next month.
Tom On, He's like, oh, I got to go to bed,
I got to get up early. I'm like, snap out
of it. I'm in coffee, man, What is wrong with you?
Oh God? I love them. You know, we're about out
of time tonight. But I do feel like tonight we
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lived up to the title of the show, a world Awakening,
because we are a world awakening to the truth. The
truth is that love will liberate you. Love will set
you free. Yes, and love and compassion and kindness and
empathy is the light. And Carmen Suba, you are the light.
(53:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Andrew you are the light as well.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Thank you. Okay, shine on, sister, you glow girl.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Thank you everybody. Here's your message, You're closing message. Be
the change you wish to see in the world. Be
that beacon of hope on a hill, Be the light
you seek. I love you, We love you. Have a
wonderful night. God bless
No Ah, good evening, everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you so much for joining us tonight for a
world awakening, and for those who have not had the
pleasure yet to meet my guests tonight, my friend Carmen Suba.
You will be thrilled and enthralled with her mystical, magical
tour that she takes you on in terms of our
(01:42):
ability to heal, and healing brings hope into the world,
and so I, without further ado, want to bring her
on and introduce her to all of you. Hello, my darling,
Hi Andrea, how are you. I'm doing well. I didn't
get a nap intoda, so I'm a little bit logi,
but I'm doing well and a cup of coffee always helps.
(02:04):
I've got my sorry, I can't mercury is in retrograde
and the nectar of the gods in it, which helps enormously.
But one of the things that I so enjoyed about
meeting you, and I haven't told you this yet, you're
(02:28):
going to hear it for the first time, but I
felt like immediately I was meeting somebody number one that
I already knew, number two that I had a sense
of familiarity with, and then realizing that we were on
the same wavelength, we were traveling the same frequency. We
were resonating with each other. With every word, we looked
(02:51):
into each other's eyes like the whole universe was right
there and it was just Having your energy in the
room with me was a brilliant I guess the best
(03:15):
word that I could use. I could feel you enter
the room before I saw you. People tell me that
all the time. I could feel you before I saw you.
I knew you were there because something changed, something changed.
And you know, Jeff and I just did a soul
(03:36):
school and we talked about you know, the pastors, the ministers,
the preachers, the you know, the holy people among us
that just passed through our lives and that we encounter
that change us. The air changes. Something changes when you're
(03:56):
with somebody that's that grounded, that centered, and yet that
ethereal simultaneously and that's you. Wow and thank you. Well,
why don't you tell people what you do, how you
do it, and why you do it?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh? Okay, what I do?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Ima? I am a vibrational sound therapist. I have been
doing energy work for twenty years on top of that,
so what I do for clients on a one on
one basis is, you know, we tailor a session just
(04:41):
for you and what.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You need out of it.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
We try to accomplish with the tools I have and
I've acquired over the years.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Why I do it, It's a calling.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I don't think I had any choice because I started
out on a different path. But I always came like
there was part of me that knew that this is
what I was supposed to do. The other things I
did were just SpaceHolders until I got to do what
I got to do.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And some days I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Really like, I'm astounded I get paid to do this.
Other days I'm really glad I get.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Paid to do this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
But I also do sound baths and private sound baths,
and that in itself can be transformative and I can
help more than one person at a time.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So that's what I do and why I do it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, you know Thomas Jefferson years ago, when I was
in college, decades ago, I vaguely remember it. We went
to Monticello. We were singing. My choir was singing with
the men's choir at Uva, and while we were on
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our trip, we went there and the tour guide said
that every afternoon he would lay on his bed, just
buck naked, just lay on his bed and take what
he said was an air bath. So and you know,
(06:37):
I get that, I really do you know, a cleansing,
a purification when you've got all this stuff going on,
or you know, founding a new country and on an
ideology of freedom for all and you know this man
who had slave quarters underneath the house. You know, a
(07:00):
little bit of counterintuitive stuff going on there, I would say,
But you know, the fact is that we each have
our own way of finding our own path to health
and wholeness and well being, or we don't and we succumb.
(07:25):
And you know, you and Bill and I were talking
about people who are perceived authority figures thoughts and planting
doubts in our mind and if we accept that, you know,
and I made mention of the fact that I love
my oncologists. She's wonderful. But the first time I met her,
(07:50):
she told me bluntly, kindly, but bluntly, that the advanced
stage of my cancer was and I don't want to
call it the cancer not mine, I don't claim it,
that it was inoperable and it was incurable. And she
(08:11):
would buy me as much time as she could in
other words, go home and get your affairs in order.
And my response to that was those words are meaningless
to me. I don't want to hear them again. They
do not function in my sphere. Yeah, and I will
(08:33):
beat this. And one of these days you're going to
say to me you are cancer free. And she looked
at me, you know, quizzically like okay, and she's well, well, now,
don't be upset, I said, I'm not upset. You know,
I'm not fearful. I don't feel sorry for myself. I
(08:56):
live in the best country in the world for medical technicology,
the best doctors, the best equipment, the best hospitals, the
best therapies. You know, what do I have to be
upset about? You know, I'm not in a hovel in
Afghanistan hiding my shame beneath a burka, with no one
to take me to the non existent clinic unless I
(09:16):
can find a Taliban fighter who will escort me, and
I have no resources to get any help. Then you
have a reason to despair. Then it's a death sentence,
not for me. And those words have no meaning for me,
And I have no fear, and I completely surrender to
my faith, and I surrender to the higher ups, all
(09:41):
of them, you know, work through me. Let me be
the conduit to the self healing, let me be, let
me live into my destiny, which is to defeat this
and then show others how. Yeah. So when you and
I sat it at the healing which was amazing, I
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mean it really was, really was, And all the ladies
just did a phenomenal job of keeping I mean talk
about trying to herd cats, you.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Know, real there were so many people. I know, it
was an amazing, wonderful experience. But the part that I
loved the most was when people would go play the
bulls and that sound would resonate through that conference room
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and you could feel it vibrating in your sternum. I
mean it was just so purifying and so healing and
so and the energy, oh my god, the energy. I
don't know about you, but I left there feeling like
I was floating and feeling absolutely exhausted simultaneously.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, it was intense. That was probably the second night.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That was probably the biggest healing circle I've ever been
a part of, and it was profound, and like, for
three days afterwards, I didn't I really couldn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I don't know what happened to me, but maybe
it was traveling in both directions at forty thousand feet.
But my joints, all the joints in my body hurt
and really robbed and hurt. And I thought, well, you know,
I ran through Atlanta Hartsfield Airport and I ran through
Detroit Airport, you know, and then I danced, like, you know,
(11:35):
danced were away and singing at the top of my lungs,
and you know, and my friend Jennifer was giving me,
you know, reiki that knocked me flat on my ass.
I mean, thank god she did it when I was
already in bed, because I wouldn't have been able to
get there, you know. And so I thought, okay, well,
(11:57):
I've just like been bombarded healing energy, and you know,
finally it has subsided. But you know, sometimes healing hurts.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, sometimes, does.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know, Because you're readjusting your chakras, you're readjusting your
you know, like your your physical form is impacted by
the energy that you're being bombarded with. It makes perfect
sense that it might be a little uncomfortable, you know,
not just spiritually or psychologically, but physically uncomfortable. And so
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you know, I went through that and everybody I know
was just I mean wasteoids words, total wasteoids.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
It was such a powerful weekend and it like had
that cumulative effect too, that like the first night was
amazing and you were saying, and it's just you knew
it was. It was helping, and then the next night
it felt like there were double the people and with
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that we all get healing, which is so amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, you know, yeah, so a lot left there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Like that, did I do your I did your third up?
How did you react to that? I never had a
chance to talk to you about it after.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Andrea, I I'm at a whole new level now I've
had I've had I've had attunements, I've had initiations.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
This I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
This was amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
How it's affected me since it's going to be it's
gonna sound wild, but like the natural world is starting
to like come alive a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I'm noticing things in the sky of course, Yeah, I'm
noticing bugs are starting.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
To hang out with me, which is so strange. You know,
I don't mind bugs at all, but bugs.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Are coming to me for some reason. But yeah, everything
has has has like my senses have have increased.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, it does enhance your five senses, absolutely does. Tapping
into your sixth sense, your your an original five, like
to a whole different level. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, there were there were days where there's a there's
a train that's like five miles from my house and
I could hear you know, we can always hear it,
but I had on ear plugs, headphones, hood and I
can still hear the train.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's like, this is wild.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Andrea, it was amazing and like the things that the
things that I'm seeing now are wild.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah. Well, you know, our mutual friend Tom Owen told
me that it basically, I I didn't mean to hit
him so hard. I really, I mean I had to
hold him up. He started tipping backwards. You know. It
(15:41):
was Yeah, it's a jolt, it is, and I do
forewarn everybody. Plus you got to hold the stone. Yeah,
that came from the crop circle, Yeah, which I had
never taken to an event before. That's such a sacred
stone to me, but something told me to take and
to share it with everybody that was going to be
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at this event and let them feel the energy of it,
feel and you know. That's part of the connection as
well with the higher ups that I like, you know,
our galactic family. And I felt like for me, I
accomplished an important part of my personal mission. I didn't
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go to Houghton Lake just selfishly for me to be healed.
I also wanted. I wanted to be a healer. I
wanted to be able to participate in opening people up
in a way that it's very hard to do when
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you've got three or four hundred or one thousand or
fifteen hundred people at an event and you can only
connect with just so many for a very limited period
of time. And so to have the freedom and the
space to do what we did and the way that
we did it, and then to all go outside and
(17:09):
to see the sky just lit up that even broad daylight.
Everybody's like, oh my god, they're everywhere, you know, Yes,
they're everywhere, everywhere, all the time, all the time. I know,
and it's so hard to you know, I don't try
to convince anybody of anything, you know, And I never
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do a third eye opening without telling whoever I'm with,
whomever I'm with, that I can't undo it. No, you
tell it. So you have to be ready and you know,
be absolutely sure that you are ready for this to happen,
because I can't reverse it. I can't, and I don't
(17:58):
think that I am supposed to mm hmm. I think
that it's like being touched by spirit. Once you are
touched by spirit and you know that spirit exists and
spirit is real, you can't unknow that. You can't unlearn it,
you can't unfeel it. It's just how it is, and
it becomes a part of who you are. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But you know I find that with Tom also, you know,
we have we have spoken about uh, drastic changes and perceptions,
drastic changes in energies around you and what you what
you can embrace and what you can no longer tolerate.
(18:45):
You know, it's it's it's quite it's liberating, but it's
also in order to really really understand and appreciate the process,
you do have to spend some time with it. You
do have to spend some time not an isolation, but
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in a kind of solitary confinement in your own soul.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, getting really quiet.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Inside, yes, yes, peace be still.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I found that too. And oftentimes, you know,
like I'm no stranger to.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
This and how time moves like time really isn't real,
and this third eye opening kind of just like threw
that right back in my face, that you know, things
are happening everywhere.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
All at once, Yes, because we live in a multi
dimensional universe disguised as are dimensional and ironment that is oppressive.
And you know the world is hard and it's filled
with pain and sorrow, and it's also filled with light
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and love and joy, and it's everything all wrapped up
into one thing. But as I told Tom before you
even arrived, the two of you even arrived, I said,
be prepared because there's something about that place where you
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step into the fifth dimension while you were there. I
know that building like the back of my hand, and
every time I go, I get lost. Lenny has to
come find me and bring me to wherever I'm supposed
to be next because I've taken the stairs or the
elevator to the wrong floor, or i went I took
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a hallway that I wasn't supposed to and I was
suddenly outside and you know, and I'm totally disoriented when
I am in that building because I'm not in three
D the entire time that I am there, and and
I don't. I don't hang out in three D that
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much anyway, because uh yeah. But and because I'm able to,
you know, go into fourth dimension and interact with spirit,
and I'm able to go into fifth dimension and interact
with my galactic family because I'm not relegated to staying
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in three D. When I come back to it, then
I can be defiant of it. Then I can say,
you know, no more of this bullshit. You know, I
have to do something to counteract, to be the antidote
to the you know, toxic waste dump that's on fire.
You know, the world is on fire. And you and
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Tom and Deb and countless other people that I know
and love. I believe we are all here, Jeff Tournament,
that we are all here right now working together in
tandem as a collective to help heal the world of
(22:22):
its woes. Yes, and we each do it in a
different way, but with the same intention, the best of intentions,
always light and love, always leading with love. And I
think the point is that there isn't just one path. No,
(22:44):
there's a multitude of paths to healing and spiritual ascension.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes, and how we weave it together is art.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It is. It's a tapestry each of us pulls along
our own little golden thread leaves it into the grand
tapestry of life.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I like that. I refuse to I refuse to succumb
to words thoughts that do not make sense to me. Yeah,
you know, I can't feel this alive and be dying.
(23:30):
I just it's just not possible. So but it took
me being told that I was going to die from
this to feel this alive, if that makes me make sense,
to be defiant in the face of it, yes, you know,
and to say, okay, you know, if I'm supposed to
(23:52):
have this so that I can heal through it and
then on the other side share that process and bring
hope to others, then yeah, I'll put up with this. Yeah,
go ahead, I'll put up with this. But I don't
accept it, and I refuse to leave this planet. I'm
not done yet.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
No you're not. You're not even close to done.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
No I'm not. And you know there are times sometimes
I lay my head down, I cuddle up with my
little dog and she sound asleep. Such a waste. Somebody
get you high, like what happened to you? She's so cute?
(24:40):
She's six and a half years old. From the day
that I rescued her, I promised to take care of
her for her whole life. Shiuahwas live an average of
twenty years. Really, yeah, and so I can't break that promise.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Nope, you can't.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's like in the Hindu religion. If you help someone,
if you lift them up, then you're responsible for them.
You know that is and I believe that that is
that we are all each our brothers keepers, our sisters keepers.
You know that if you want to live, as Emerson said,
you know, showing the way to a child is the
(25:28):
greatest thing that you can accomplish in your life. It
is a true success when you lift up a child,
when you teach a child and lead a child, and
guide a child, a child how to be in this complicated,
difficult world, then you can say you are truly successful
(25:51):
in life. You know, A very long paraphrase for what
was a much more concise quote, which is escaping me
at the moment. I used to blame COVID, Now I
blame well whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But you didn't have your nap today.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I didn't have my nap today, and I need another
cup of coffee and there's hardly anything left. It's down
hold in the bottom. Oh no, that's okay. I would
like to get some sleep tonight. In a second coffee
would preclude that. So we're good. We're good. I think
(26:31):
that what you do and how you do it and
your ability to make music a part of the raising
of the vibration, you know, the frequency that you tune
into that you bring your clients along with you, that
(26:54):
brings them comfort and soothes them and lets them relax
completely in a world where it's really hard to do that.
You know, the level is through the roof, you know. Fear.
Fear is I think that love is the most compelling,
(27:16):
most intense human emotion, but it holds hands with fear. Yeah,
it does, it does. They kind of fall into the
same category. It's love is good and fear is evil.
(27:40):
You know it is, and it functions in our lives
because fear is often provoked by acts of evil, and
you know, we're seeing that unfolding day to day in
our own country, where people are terrified to go to work,
(28:02):
terrified to go to school, terrified to go grocery shopping.
Now because of the color of their skin. I mean
really that's how they're being targeted and profiled now, arrest
first to ask questions later. And we've not lived that
(28:23):
in our lifetimes. We've not seen that in our lifetimes.
The closest that we have was the Japanese internment camps
in World War Two, again based on fear that you know,
these people are a danger, danger, danger, and I don't
(28:50):
know how to overcome it. But I do know that
what you do, and I do know that what I
do and what I do with Jeff and what I
do with deb and what I do with Lenny, and
what I do, I hope makes a modicum of difference.
And I know that you hold that hope in your
heart too.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
It's not just about holding the vibration.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It's about right, like raising the vibration right, and we
can only do that collectively.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But it's also don't you think of transformation vibration, because
the vibration on this planet, this planet right now is
vibrating off the charts. Yeah, it's generally, for as long
as they've measured the vibration of the Earth, it's always
been somewhere between two point seven gigahertz and seven point nine.
(29:48):
Then the for as long and now it's it's in
the hundreds. I mean, it's like everything's you know, it
really is, but it's not because the planet is vibrating
at a high level of love. We're vibrating at a
(30:10):
very high level of fear. And the transmutation that needs
to occur where we relinquish the fear and embody the love.
And you know, I have received many messages, many messages
(30:32):
in the last six months or so, a lot of downloads,
a lot of intergalactic communicates, and one of them that
I think was one of the most important of all,
was that we will fail at our mission if we
(30:55):
do not embody the love and shine the light on
what is wrong and make it right. And that requires compassion,
It requires empathy, and a lot of people don't want
(31:16):
to feel empathy because it hurts. It hurts when you
put yourself, even for a moment, in the shoes of
another one who is suffering immeasurably more than you, any
kind of suffering you have ever known, and you put
yourself in their place for even a moment. It's like
(31:40):
being struck by lightning. And it hurts. It does hurts
your soul. It hurts physically you'll get a headache, you know.
I mean it's there's a visceral response to empathy and
its purest form, and so it's something that a lot
(32:01):
of people avoid. And then those among us that are
extremely you know what they call impaths, people that are
extremely sensitive to that kind of energy, myself included, We
suffer not just for them, but with them. And so
(32:24):
transmutation needs to occur, Yes, not only a transformation, but
a transmutation where these two entities that are basically holding
hands have to flip the switch. Yes, so that love,
(32:45):
not fear is in control, because fear is there is
legitimate fear. Like am I in Gaza and I'm going
to go line up and try to get some and
I'm going to be shot while I'm standing in line.
That's a legitimate fear because it's happening every fucking day. Children. Yeah,
(33:12):
gone away while they're standing there with a bucket waiting
to get some soup. Yeah, okay, that's the world that
we're living. You know, people being abducted off the streets
and thrown into unmarked van with masked ma wauters who
refuse to tell you who they are or why you're
(33:34):
being arrested. That's happening on the streets of America right now. Yeah,
that's the world that we're living. And it's cruel. It's cruel,
it's beyond unkind. You know, when the cruelty is the point,
when the division is the point when the when you
(34:01):
don't have any rights anymore, when you go from being
you know, an objective viewer of what's happening to the
subject of the abuse. When that happens and you understand
what other people are going through, even if it's just
(34:24):
that moment that you put yourself in their shoes and
you realize they're not going home to their family that night,
and they might not be in the country in a
couple of days, no due process involved. It's scary. It's
a legitimate fear.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, and it's overwhelming at times, it is.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So what's the antidote? How do we counteract this? The
messages that I have gotten are you know, it's got
to be with love. It's got to be with love.
It's got to be putting up the biggest umbrella that
you can find and inviting everyone in, including people who
(35:13):
once supported this and now are looking at it going
that's not what I meant. Now, the hardest thing for
a human being to do is to admit that they've
made a mistake. It is very, very difficult because it
(35:35):
conjugates as failure, and nobody wants to believe that they
are supporting a failed policy, proposition or even person they
had imbued their confidence in. And so talk about a
(36:01):
big fish to fry, this is a big one. Yeah,
how do you keep yourself grounded that you go do
what you do every day even no matter how you're feeling,
no matter where you are, and you know we all
(36:21):
have bad days, all right. Do you feel that when
you go do what you do that it is as
healing to you as uplifting for you as it is
for your clients. Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Absolutely, I feel very blessed that, you know, I get
I do modalities that touch me as well. So when
I'm holding space for somebody else, I'm in service and
nothing brings me joy like being in service. But yes,
I do, like have to work to ground myself and
(36:59):
be intentional with just about everything I do, taking care
of myself and making sure I get my naps. But
you know, there's a lot of time that I spend
in isolation just to recalibrate from being in service to
other people, but I also get the benefits of being
(37:23):
in service.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Do you feel that it drains your energy and rejuvenates
your energy simultaneous, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
That's an interesting way to put it.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I don't feel like I'm drained by what I do.
But because I am empathic and my clients are suffering,
of course I'm going to be feeling for them and
putting myself in their place and understanding, you know, what's
unfolding for them. So so yes, it does drain me
(37:56):
from that aspect, but the energy never drains me because
it's it's.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
The universal energy. Yeah, well AAM is the channel for it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, we are the conduits. We are, and you know,
some of us have the luxury of thinking about that. Yeah,
we're not necessarily worried about where our next meal is coming,
or are we going to have shelter for the night.
(38:27):
We don't have to live like that, and countless millions do.
They don't have the luxury of considering what their personal
philosophy is trying to stay alive, you know. So it's
(38:49):
it's interesting to me, Carmen that when we connect the
way that we did, when the collective comes to ether
the way that we did in Holton Lake, how it
makes everything brighter. It brings clarity in a way that
(39:14):
nothing else can, even being in deep meditation. And I
think that community, it really is, it really is, you know,
for you to feel when you are with like minded individuals.
And it doesn't mean you agree on absolutely everything, and
it doesn't mean that you practice the same faith, and
(39:36):
it doesn't mean it doesn't mean any of that. It's
it's about an energy and a vibration that you share,
that that wavelength that we ride together, you know. And
it's I tell people all the time, spiritual ascension is
not about climbing a ladder. It is horizontal, you know,
(39:59):
and we're at a different place on our path. But
it's not one person being above or beneath another in
that process. That human evolution doesn't work that way. No,
it is individual. And with each client that you have,
(40:21):
I would venture to guess that each one of them
leaves being in your presence, ash with emotion, awash with
a sense of wellness. But it's different for every single
one of them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Absolutely, we all process things differently, we all have different
lenses we view things from. But we're all people, we're
all human. And you know, even with that, even like
with all the fear in the world, there's just as
much love.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yes, And I believe that love, love conquersphear. It certainly does.
It didn't, none of us would be here anymore, right,
you know that we would have just killed each other
off too, you know, human beings. The destructive tendencies of
human beings are off the charts.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
And if love was not able to defeat fear and hatred,
which you know, hatred is born of fear, yes, not
the opposite of love. Fear is the opposite of love.
And it's it's just something that we we have to
(41:38):
a mindset that we have to work to maintain every
day because it would be so easy to succumb to
the darkness. Now, so when you are that that beacon
of light, even if it's just a pin light, you know,
against the darkness of the darkest night, that light shows
(42:04):
and it wouldn't without the darkness right as the backdrop,
as the grim.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Yeah, it just takes one light. It just takes one
light to light others up. You do it, You do
it all the time.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
I try, you do I do. I try. I try
to live in service to others all the time, and
I try to always lead with love, lead with kindness.
The easiest thing in the world to do is to
be kind It really is. It is. It's the easiest
thing in the world to do, you know. I never
(42:44):
you know. I had an interesting experience a couple of
weeks ago, and I don't remember what happened prior to it.
I think I just had a doctor's appointment. Yeah it was.
It was Christine and I stopped at Wallyworld while on
the way home from the hospital, and I don't know
(43:06):
what happened. This does happen to me a lot, but
not like that day. Everybody I made eye contact with
in wally World, row after row after row, we walked
the whole store because we needed pet food, and we
needed this, and we needed that, and of course it's
spread out all over the place, and so I finally
(43:30):
had to walk up to my sister and say, don't
let me make eye contact with him, don't let me
make eye contact with anybody, because She's like, where were you?
I said, I was talking to a woman in Isle eight,
and I was talking to a man in asle six.
Who both came up to me and started expelling everything
(43:52):
that they were holding onto that troubled them or that
touched them that they needed to get out. And you know,
Jeff and I in soul School were talking about that
calling and you were referring to that calling for some reason.
(44:13):
That day, I was just radiating something that was magnetizing
to certain people. And I could just be walking past
someone and make eye contact with them, and in that
second they stopped and engaged me in conversation and their
(44:34):
hearts out to me, five ten minutes at a time.
And that happened five times in one that was supposed
to be a brief stop. And you know, Christine's like, well,
let me give you my baseball cap and you just
put it over your eyes. My head's too big, it
(44:54):
won't fit in my head, you know. And I don't
know what it is, but it is something. It's the
light that happened.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
It's the light you radiate. It's the light like it
happens to me all the time too.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
It's strangers, perfect strangers that you've never met before, you've
never seen before, and they tell you their most intimate
secrets and their family story and their pain and their
suffering and what makes them cry? And you know where
does that come from? That outpouring of human emotion that
(45:35):
is so pent up, so internalized within them that it
explodes out of them when they see someone that they
know they can talk to, they know that they can
trust with something that they might never have discussed with
(45:55):
anyone else ever before. And those moments where I'm extending myself,
where I am pausing, giving them my full undivided attention,
touching them while we talk, sharing that energy, even if
it's just a hand on the shoulder, And then inevitably
(46:20):
they hugged me before they walk on to go get
their soup. You know, I and I don't, but it's
so lovely. It's so lovely. I had a little boy
once at public supermarket. We're standing near that. I was
walking up to the deli and he was there with
his mother, and he just turned and he looked at
(46:40):
me and he ran to me. He just pulled away
from her and ran and wrapped his arms around my legs.
And that poor woman was so mortified. She's like, oh
my god, he's like this in his life. I said, Oh,
it's okay. It happens all the time, and she's like
what I said, No, it really does. And I got
down on the ground with him and I looked it
(47:03):
in his eyes and I said, oh my god, you're
the most beautiful little boy I've ever seen. What is
your name? And he said, I'm Gabriel. I was named
after an archangel. Fuck, you know that's my arch angel.
That's the woe that watches over me, so says a
number of mystics. And and yeah, there he was. No,
(47:28):
I mean that was a spiritual experience at the deli
of a public supermarket.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, they can have They can happen anywhere, can't they.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
It was miraculous. It was Watch for the Miracles, Watch
for the Miracles. Yes, my sister was had gone shopping
a few weeks ago. I told the story. You probably
heard it because you watched the show all the time.
But a woman walked an elderly woman walked up to
her and handed her a big, beautiful bouquet of flowers
(47:58):
and just, you know, just out of noware she just
showed up. And Christine was so taken by it. She
was so shocked. She's like, she didn't know this woman,
and but she walked up to her. The side of
the car. Chris rolled down her window and the woman
handed her this massive, beautiful bouquet of flowers. And after
(48:19):
they engaged for a few moments and Chris like, are
you sure? I get you know why? You know? They
had this lovely little back and forth and she thanked
her profusely, and she leaned over and she put the
flowers on the passenger seat, and when she turned back around,
that woman was gone. I love that side of the car.
(48:42):
She looked all over a few seconds, looked all over
the parking lot, and that woman was gone. And she
came home and she's like ann, oh my god, I
have to I'm like, where you bought flowers? She's like, no,
they were given to me and told me the story,
(49:02):
and it just it was so uplifting. It was so beautiful,
it was so sacred, it was so holy. It was
so precious and having those moments and I know you
do too, and I know Tom does too. Yeah, that's
part of it.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, that's really.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Magic, the supernatural aspect of our natural world. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, when you look for it, it's everywhere too.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, everywhere. Expect a miracle right around you all the time.
And when you live in that place and heart. When
you live in that mindset, when everything is beautiful, even
on the ugliest day, you can still find the beauty.
(49:56):
I know what you mean about I mean I I
love hummingbirds. And my mother always had a yard full
of feeders from the first Scouts in Georgia usually show
up in mid March, and that's when the feeders went out.
(50:17):
And this year, Christine put all the feeders out in
the same place that they've always been, and not one
hummingbird came, not one. And I thought maybe they were
coming from Mom. Maybe her attachment to them was why
they would come here and nest here and have their
babies and raise their babies here on this property because
(50:40):
we're surrounded by forest. And I was heartbroken that not
a single one had either of us seen all through
the spring. And yesterday morning, no, this afternoon, there was
a hummingbird feeding in my sister's plant, the flowers that
(51:02):
she and I bought the day of our mother's one
year anniversary of for passing.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Oh that's so beautiful, Oh that's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
There it was ruby throated, which was my mom's favorite.
Always the green isn't with the ruby throats very well,
so beautiful. Only one that we've seen all spring into
now summer, and it is the solstice, my sister, perfect
timing it is. So let us go forward, You and
(51:37):
I Yes, and all of our ilk as birds of
a feather do tend to flock together. Yes, And I
will see you again in September. And everybody that can
get there needs to come to the UFO contact in
Houghton Lake, in the hotel that's in the fifth dimension.
(51:59):
For some reason, I think maybe the lay lines. I'm
not sure, deb.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
I think it's I think it's definitely the lay.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Lines have something to do with it. Something and the water,
Oh my god. Yeah. But we will. We will get
together again, and we will hold hands and we will
make the bulls sing and we will sing, and we
will bring our light and our love together in unison
into the world and raise the vibration. And I love you.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Carl, I love you.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
You're pressed so much. We will do this again next month.
Tom On, He's like, oh, I got to go to bed,
I got to get up early. I'm like, snap out
of it. I'm in coffee, man, What is wrong with you?
Oh God? I love them. You know, we're about out
of time tonight. But I do feel like tonight we
(52:51):
lived up to the title of the show, a world Awakening,
because we are a world awakening to the truth. The
truth is that love will liberate you. Love will set
you free. Yes, and love and compassion and kindness and
empathy is the light. And Carmen Suba, you are the light.
(53:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Andrew you are the light as well.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Thank you. Okay, shine on, sister, you glow girl.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Thank you everybody. Here's your message, You're closing message. Be
the change you wish to see in the world. Be
that beacon of hope on a hill, Be the light
you seek. I love you, We love you. Have a
wonderful night. God bless
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