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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hi, Hi, I'm all fired up. How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, I am too.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Ever, ever accuse me of being dispassionate.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh no, no, no, you know you're a little quiet.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, when I'm sleeping maybe, but not even then.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Ask you're not quiet when you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Okay, all right, well you know, well, you know I
do snore a little bit. The good news is it's
only when I'm sleeping.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I know this is Yeah, you only snow when you sleep.
I can say that.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You can rad ah help it, you know, I mean,
I did get my adenoids crushed for I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm sure. I'm sure everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Nobody does. Everybody does, whether they want to admit it
or not. Oh he's so sweet, so sweet. Oh God,
as long as it's not during one of my lectures,
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does not get to snore through one of my lectures,
Because I swear to God, I'll go over there and
I'll shake that man awake, you know I will. I'm
thinking about going up to Massachusetts in October for a
couple of days, just to see my people up there,
my tribe.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's it's been a minute since you.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
G it has it's been a minute. So tonight we're
doing a Q and a and the title is we
need to talk, yes, and so have a show for
those that have not read it at Oh thank you Joeanne.
You are so sweet and you lie so well because
I always here a Yankee swamp hag honey, I know it,
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but you know makeup is it's good. I got ear
rings one you gave me these. Okay, So the description
of the show tonight is as follows. Many of us
are suffering from a weird malaise which can only be
described as emotional exhaustion. Our brains are on overload. Tonight,
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we invite our viewers to share what is bothering them
so to help release the stress and tension and anxiety
that seems to be more than an epidemic, more like
a plague. Post your questions and we will address as
many as possible. Now we can't get them, and I
know you've been gathering them for days. So if I
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got a new phone, I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I know, I know it's so nice. I know.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh it's Mama gacy By. Yeah. Yeah, he's the matriarch
of the breed. Yes, missus Baldwin. And uh, I'll tell
you what. I'm open to anything. The one thing that
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I let you know, which I'm sure you let others know,
is that I don't want to talk about the farmhouse
because I can't because I will not be able to
keep my shit together. And I know myself well enough
to know that that is a subject that I cannot address,
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that I have to deal with personally, And so I
beg everybody's indulgence. I know they're an awful lot of
people that want to know what I think and how
I feel, and I just can't ex to beg my pardon.
I beg your pardon for that, And maybe the time
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will come and maybe it won't. But the interim, there's
plenty else to discussing going on in the world, plenty
going on in the world, and plenty going on with
us each individually. So, uh, you know, Lenny, what do
you want this to look like when we're done with
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this hour? How do you how do you want this addressed?
I mean, I've kind of given you the lead.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, you know, I think we need to We do
need to talk about it because I am fully in
the the malaise and fatigue and all of that.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I am physically exhausted, emotional, emotionally, physically, all of it
and I everything.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, I know, and a lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, and I got I let myself get really discouraged.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, when you when you when you get to a
point where you feel helpless and hopeless, like you cannot
affect any positive change, is when you have to flip
over and float that you have to flip that switch
and be defiant in the fifth of what is terrifying you?
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Because I think the definition of courage is being afraid
and doing it anyway.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah mm hmm I I Mine isn't fear.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's nobody else cares. Why should I? Yeah, I'm not
making any difference. Why am I bothering to do this?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And I got myself really discouraged. I got myself talked
out of everything that I thought in everything because you
know how much this is meant to me. Yeah, And
I just have taken so many body shots that I
just got really discouraged and threw up my hands for
about a week or two.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And now I'm getting the fight back and I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Getting the fight back.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Are Yeah, I am? I am. I just was down
a little bit, but not no.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But you know the beauty is is that I'm your
coach and your mind. Yeah, exactly, no, And it's and
the really what I consider a blessing is that we
never get depressed at the same time. True, true, And
when one's going down that rabbit hole, the other one's
got a hand down there, just yanking you know, each
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other up, and you know, that's the the best that
we can do. Empathy is I think, the most other
than our ability to love each other as human beings.
I think that empathy is the most important of all
human emotions, and it's also one of the most difficult
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because it hurts. Yeah, you know, when you're able to
feel somebody else's pain and you're you know, I mean,
I can't tell you, just for instance, about the little
gay guy that got deported to El Salvador. I worry
about him every day, every day, and I don't even
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let my mind go to what could be happening to him.
And roughly is because I can't because it crushes me.
It crushes me. And he's just one of how many. Yeah,
And when people who are actually citizens of this country
are Green card holders, the holders are being yanked off
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the streets and thrown in jail and point off.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The streets, they're getting yanked off their job, off.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Their job, out of schools, out of court, when they
go to report.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
When they go for their immigration an appointment, right, they're
getting pulled out in the shipped.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Out Yeah yeah, sick. Yeah. And then we have a
senator named Jony Ernst today who decided very ill advised.
I don't know what she was thinking.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I have never liked that, buddy, I've not seen.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Anything like it. When a woman stood up and said,
if you do what you're threatening to do, people will die,
and her response was, well everybody dies. I could well,
heartless bitch, you just kissed your Senate seat goodbye, because
if you think that one, do you know that sixty
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two percent of people in this country are either using
medicaid or know someone is. And it is exactly equal
both parties, exactly percentage wise equal. This is not political.
This is a about what is right and what is wrong.
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And for that to be her reflex response, well everybody dies.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I could.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I was I just I wanted to reach through I
wanted to punch the throat right television and asked me
to please not destroy the television.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah, not advice, right.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You know, I mean so, I mean, anybody that's stuck
around through Soul School knows I'm pumped up and I
can't help it. And you know what, it's good. I
my rage. I am burning my rage for as jet fuel.
I am finding the strength, finding the energy, finding the momentum,
finding my purpose, finding my mission in my contempt and
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loathing for what I see happening in this country and
around the world. Yeah, this is a pivotal point in
human history. It's going to go one way or the other.
And I have rediscovered something of faith. I will never
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ever consider myself a practicing Catholic again.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, but you can have as aspects of you.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But I can love Pope Francis.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I love.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, did my homework? Did my research on this man?
Did you know that there was a cult in South
America that he wiped out a cult leader? Uh, you know,
under under the moniker of Catholicism. But it was a
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cult and this leader was a megalomaniac, narcissist, sato masochist,
and had done unspeakable things to members of his congregation.
Unspeakable I cannot describe. People can go find out and
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read about it, but I cannot even say the words
on the show and Bishop the Bishop Prevost got wind
of it, and he went to the Vatican and he
spoke directly with Pope Francis, and he made sure that
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an end was put to it, and that that things
were handled in a way that could not heal those
wounds that could bind to them. You know, I mean
help for the victims and accountability for the monster. He
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was a monster, and you know, but then when he
adopted Tiberius, when he called for Tiberius to be taken
away from the tomb of Saint Francis, he ought to
be asking can we have two Saint franciss I don't
see why not, because he should be And I didn't
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agree with everything that I argued with him. I mean,
not a person, but I did. I argued, And yet
I don't know. It's just something that's so deeply, deeply
ingrained in me that it's resurfacing now at a time
when I need it. Yeah, I know, when I need
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to solidify my faith in humanity, but my higher faith.
You know, there was a reason I became an ordained
minister in twenty twenty. I was told I was called
it is calling at the College and it had been
ringing in my ears for decades, and I was like, no, no, no, no,
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I can't be associated with organized religion. No. And yet
I did it because I needed to, because I needed
to be a brief counselor, and I needed to re
establish a connection spiritually and through and find my faith
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in something that gave me an opportunity to reach out
and help other people. Yeah, and it's not that I
couldn't do it without the piece of paper and the
certification in the whole nine yards. And I've had the
opportunity to marry people, you know, and celebrate their love.
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I've had the opportunity to speak on subjects that you know,
I might not have touched otherwise. You know, I'm it
was perfectly qualified. I came with my own following. I
agree in philosophy, which means basically, I went to seminary
for four years and it was time. Oh my nose,
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I'm sorry, it's itchy. Does that mean I'm going to
be kissed by a fool?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
A fool?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There's anyone I meet them? And so anyway, let's start
getting to our questions. I don't want to know.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, the first thing I want to tell you is
something that I've kind of been doing a little bit.
You know, I'm big on TikTok right now. It's my
my thing for some reason. But I wanted to tell
you about that we do Not Care club because I
think that you and I should be members of the
we do not Care club.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I gt nothing else to do. What?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
No, I'm just saying because we do not care about
it's it's that malaise and fatigue thing. We just don't
care about unimportant things anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, Like, am I wearing the T shirt that I
had on yesterday?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Most likely? When it comes to me, most likely, and
most likely.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We do not care. Don't get not care that I
have on makeup that I put on last night. It's
now called the smoky eye.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It looks good, darling. Nothing raccoonish about you.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh no, I got big old raccoon eyes. I'm perfectly
fine with it. I've had it on my whole life. So, yes,
we do not care about the unimportant stuff anymore. We
are going to focus on the people and the things
that are important.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, Yes, and then so doing and then doing this,
and then we'll do a zoom session. We need to
put a zoom sashion. You're definitely doing that. We can
get you know, because we can bring in lots and
lots and lots of people. You know what we can
you know, call it the bitch board. I don't care
what we call it. Yeah, I mean, we can just
call it. We need to talk, we knew it on
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a regular basis, so that people have an escape, people
have place to come to to just spew, to just
share and to be supported and lifted up and loved. Yeah,
so all right, so let's.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Do that then, Okay, I want to do this question
for this thing one first, and this came from Kendra. Okay,
but yes, yes, we love Kendra a lot. But and
we talked about it because I was sending you a
little a few things about the Annabelle Doll, the Annabel
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Doll going around.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The country on her tour. So I know, I know,
I know.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Just tell everybody a little bit about it so that
you know what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
The real Annabel Doll. Nusper, the Warrens and what do
you want to call him. They decided that annabel needed
to go on tour.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Now, this is not the first time that Annabelle has
been to I know, it's a the first time Annabelle's
been taken out of their house. Annabell has gone other
places before. This is just like the first really big one,
and this one went viral. And so she went to
West Virginia State Penitentiary. She went to New Orleans, San Antonio,
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and then the blacks wan In in San Antonio. Average
ticket price was seventy five dollars a person. They were
putting through thousands of people a day, exaggerating it was
the craziest thing. But then what happened is because it's
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part of the Conjuring universe, it went.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It just went viral, especially on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Everybody was making tiktoks, everybody was pretending they were Annabelle.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It just got really really crazy. But what do you
think about them.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Putting Annabelle on display like that when Lorraine had always
said don't do it? What why would they go against
what Lorraine said?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
If I said what I really want to say, I
know that I would probably have being served with a
lawsuit tomorrow. Okay, So extrapolate out from that.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I mean, I think we can all guess what you
think we can.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I think we pretty much can see it, and I
think most of us in the paranormal field feel the
same way that it was a big money grab, but
it went viral.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I mean, we're talking about viral too.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying it was crazy
because we're talking hundreds of thousands of views on these videos.
Everybody was just going crazy. Then they pretended somebody started
a rumor that she was in Chicago and that she
got stolen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It just it it went crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So that was one thing I think that it's having
you knowing that you knew Lorraine.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, you know, I had my issues with Lorraine and Ed,
you know I but I cared about both of them,
and I truly do believe that they cared about our
family and that they never did anything deliberately to hurt us.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I completely honor and.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Respect her wishes above all else. And you know, I
don't even attribute anything particular to a raggedy and doll,
you know, I don't. Uh, it's it's it's just it's
just more of the same of what human beings do.
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It's the dark side of humanity. And I don't get it.
I never will. I don't approve. I never will not
because I think that there's anything inherently evil about a doll,
a doll made of cloth. Nor do I you know,
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we never saw the Annabel doll. We never had nothing
to do with our so cynical Hollywood. It is that
they even wove that part of the story into ours
in the in the original Conjuring film, people are superstitious,
people are curious. And I don't blame people for being
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either of those things. I don't. I think that. Uh,
I think that the tour of that doll was a
very cynical, very superfluous.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
It was for money, bottom line, you know what the guy,
you know what the guys said, Okay, I got to.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Give him this.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
The so Ryan Buell was the one that took the
doll out on tour. But you know, we all we
don't need to talk about Ryan.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
But the she also has a handler, and there's a
Dave and a Dan and I they're both with Nesper.
And the guy said, well, you know, we do have upkeep.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
On the museum. We do have costs on the museum.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And I thought, okay, they did everything that they did
for free, you know time, I'm sure of that.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But I was just like, oh, okay, So we're doing
this to remodel the museum. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Whatever. Can we move on to a like a legitimate question?
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's a legitimate question.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Well, yes, it is one that I can answer in
its entirety because I want to be sued.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
But we all know. Okay. So River wanted to know
if you have a favorite player or a musical.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh, yes I do. I absolutely do. It's the first
musical that I ever saw on a stage. It was
at the Providence Center for the Performing Arts and it
was Jesus Christ Superstar with the original Broadway cast, and
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I was like lone away, lone away, and I was
ten years old, and Kathy Urbanus, who was our babysitter,
took me and it was just between my birthday and Christmas,
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that type of that time of year.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh, that would be perfect time.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, and yeah. I'm also a huge fan of the
sound of music, always have been, always will be. When
I was a little bit older, maybe even a little
younger than when I went to see Jesus Christ Superstar
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on stage, my godmother Claire, took me to the drive in,
to the Lonsdale Drive In in Lincoln, Rhode Island to
go see the Sound of Music again, blown Away. I have.
There are so many musicals that hold a special in
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my heart because I was a stage actor and singer
and musician for so so many years and had so
many roles in so many musicals that you know, I
hold each one a special place in my heart. I've
been in Annie and the follow up, which was a
much better play called Anne Bucks. I was a commissioner
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as the mean, mean woman that was so mean, and
I have. I would have to say that. Recently, one
of my new favorites that moved way up the list
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really really fast was a brilliant show called The Greatest Showman. Yeah,
and I love it. I love everything about that show.
I think it is a brilliant cast, it was brilliantly produced.
I have. Yeah. I'm I'll tell you what. That's my
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great escape when I can't take reality any more, not
one minute more. I either you. And I watched Conclave,
which I encouraged. It's not a.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Musical, but I would encourage everybody to see it.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's a very important film. And there's a new series
that I am completely enthralled with called Ittoi and it's
on Prime Video. I think that's the only place that
it's airing. But it is spectacular, spectacular. Oh, you have
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to watch it, but I warn you in advance. After
the first episode, you won't be able to stop. Okay,
you'll be like toothpicks to keep your eyes open to
just one episode after another after another. It's like you
become a ravenous animal. And it's a feast for the
soul and the eyes and the ears and all your
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senses are heightened. And it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. And it's
about the New York City Ballet swapping their ATOI the
their top dancer with the Paris Company, and the Parisian
comes to America. The American goes to Paris, they swap
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choreographer goes to Paris. I mean, and all of these
characters are all intertwined with each other, and the story
unfolds in the most brilliant, beautiful way. I keep using
the word brilliant because it is so brilliant. It's E
T I oh, I l E or oh, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's okay because I'll just look it up on.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But yeah, and a lot of music there's I mean,
it's it's it's ballet, it's dance. But you know, I
love choir music. I love uh dancing with the stars,
I love I can't help it. I love it. And
America's got talent, you know, if you can get through
the really shitty acts, you know, I mean, you're going
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to see something brilliant there the voice music. I can't
even imagine life without music. I can't imagine. I was
asking during an interview, if I had to relinquish one
of my two senses, my sight or my hearing, my yes,
I'll give up. I've seen so much of the world.
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But if I if I want, if it went.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Silent, yeah, I wouldn't have handled that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Any reason left to be here none, Nope, No, So
that's my answer.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Okay, all right, I was you know, I was looking
because we were talking about last time we did this.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
We haven't done this since COVID, Yeah, I know, I
mean it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What about recording an audio book? Andrew Pren, Oh god,
we're going to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I know that I've never asked you.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
At some point I probably will. Yeah, But to record
my work, it's a lot. It would be an incredible
investment of time. I would have to go someplace to
do it professional studio, Yes, I would. Now I have
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to get on the other side of cancer. Oh, yes,
we think about these. Yeah, I am writing. I am
writing this chapter of my life as a book, and
that will probably be my first audio book because it
will be shored enough and manageable enough. I can take
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a trip down to Florida. And my father's got a
friend who's got a professional suit, said, I can I
use that record everything? Right?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
And yeah, because I would even say A Wonder to
Behold would be an easier audiobook.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, but it's still five hundred pages.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh I know that.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I know that. I'm just saying. I mean, we're talking
about eighty hours.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Oh no, I know that, I know that.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
And that's what I always tell people is it's just
a it's a huge undertaking and it's just never been
possible before.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I would rather put it out in the world for free,
one episode at a time, doing it with Bill and
just sitting here and reading it. Put it out for
free because people are going to buy the books. People
are going to want signed books. Oh, send me the
name of that lady that wants volume two.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I got it okay, And you know, and I could
do that, and Bill would do that for me, because
you know, he would and just hit click and record it.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And I could do that because it's the message is
more important than anything I think. And you know, River
is like deeply immersed and I think he's into Volume
two now, Yes, I think he is into volume and
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you know he's It's had a tremendous impact on him.
You know, he sends me little messages and he asks
me occasional questions and usually I just tell him I
don't know, it could have you know, I don't know
how to answer that. It's uh, it is. It's a revelation.
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It makes you think differently about everything. And you know,
I have put a couple of videos out where I've
just read one sub chapter of a chapter.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
We did a lot, We used to do a lot
of things.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah that we just every life just got too busy.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I guess, Yeah, we just.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Kind of shift. Doesn't mean that we can't do more.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It doesn't mean that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
We can get back to doing something.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, and uh yeah, and so we will.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
We will.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But you know the thing is that I can't turn
those any of my work over to somebody else to
right that I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I know that I'd.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Rather not do it than have it done half asked.
And I have no input, and the inflection is not
right in that sentence, or you know, the emotion isn't
there in that sentence or that paragraph. I mean, I know,
as I wrote the books, I didn't. As I wrote
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the books, I read each chapter allowed before I would
move on to the next one, you know. And it's
got a few little glitches in it here and there.
It does. I mean, you know, every book does. There's
no book I've ever read that didn't have a mistake
in it somewhere.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Except it's kind of like a that's kind of like
a gift in a way.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah it is, you know the laws. Yeah, well, you know,
I just tell people, look, I didn't have a professional editor,
and I'm dyslexic, I know. I mean, you know, do
your best to get through it. And if the words
are too big, then get a dictionary. You know. The
worst thing that ever happened to you today was that
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you had to learn a new word. Yeah, so there's that.
But yeah, okay, so there's that. I will do my
best to go down to my friend Steve Ward has
a professional studio in Florida, and I could go down
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with my and you know, go see Dad and Carleen
and Dad would take me to the studio and I
could record the new book book.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
We'll see what happens anything, Okay. Jessica Hubbard was the
retreat with us.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh, yes, I know Jessica.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, so I'm hoping she's in here. She she talked
a bit about the I know, you like.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Meeting somebody for the first time and knowing that you
know them all right without having met them.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yes, yeah, it's it's about recognition. So I think that
that's what it is, that that I think that there's
every possibility that there is one soul, as there is
one divine mind. I'm not talking about our individual brains, right,
you know, create the function of our vessels about divine
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mind that comes directly from source. And I think that
the same might be true for the soul.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
And so when you meet someone who you feel inside
that you know that you can talk to them, you
know how it was with us when we I I
couldn't get the wholest part. I mean, just like.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
But I could tell you. I looked at Jeff and
I said, she's in the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And this was you know we heard years ago.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah, we talked on the phone and talked you know,
obviously online, but never any video or any anything like that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And I I knew when you were in the parking lot.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah, the my whole just everything changed. And I got
up and you weren't even in the build. You weren't
even in Tomorrow's yet, And so I was standing. I
was just standing there because I was I was frozen.
But you had to get through all of those people first,
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and I and I think I knew that, so I
just kind of hung back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
And then that's been this ever since I've been your
Lenny ever.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So, but but that does happen, and not and not
just with you, but like with she mentioned that she'd
had that same thing with deb, you know, and just
wanted you to talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And I think that that there's uh, I think that
it's highly plausible that we come from the same place,
we come from the same tribe family, and I'm galactic,
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and that we're placed here at this time to fulfill
a very specific purpose. And now is the time that
we have. Over the last ten or twenty years, I've
been finding each other, coming together, and in so doing
we have it's like we magnify the message with our numbers.
(37:50):
But the thing that's most brilliant and wonderful about it
is that we can have a conversation to telepathically. You know,
I can hold your hand and just from your vibration,
know what you're thinking, feel how you're feeling. That kind
of connection, and I think that everybody can have that
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with everybody, but they hold back and they create barriers
to that kind of emotional They don't want to feel empathy.
They don't want to feel anything. A lot of times
it hurts. And you know, when you feel somebody else's pain,
you're feeling pain too.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It doesn't feel good, you know. And so I understand
why people so cruel and so callous and so you know, heartless.
I understand what's going on. It's because the intensity of
the world that we live in. You're either going to
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break open. You remember the phrase that I used to
talk about more frequently than I have recently. But the
great poet and musician Leonard Cohen wrote about there is
a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. Yes,
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And when we break open, when we break wide open,
like a seed that's buried deep in the dirt, and
the pressure of the weight of the dirt and the
rain and the snow, and the pressure that is put
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on that singular seed cracks it open, and what's in
that seed goes to the surface, goes to the light,
and then springs forth into something beyond beautiful. But it's
the pressure that cracks that seed wide open, and that's
(39:54):
how the light gets into the darkness. And that's what
happens when I meet someone who I recognize, ye never
seen them more? Yeah, you recognize their I recognize their soul. Yeah,
that's how I felt when I met her.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Almost you know, I wonder if that's a little bit
of that is how I can sometimes tell when people
reach out to you, but I get them first.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Just kind of know.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, well, tom Owen Carmen, Yeah, I mean there were
so many people that were there that, you know, and
everybody was so thoughtful and respectful of my time and
my space, and you know, and meanwhile, I'm like, come on,
come on in, you know, if I need to take
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a napp, I'll let you know. And I expended a
great deal of energy that week.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You're still not Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I did. I really put it all out there, all
out there, and uh and I have no regrets about that.
It was so fulfilling. It was so enriching, you know
for all of us our circle were you know, we
circled our wagons, you know, we went out into the
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night air and the sky lit up. I mean, it
was just amazing. We use great photographs.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
That I just yeah, I couldn't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I've probably stayed there at least eight times now because
I've stayed there other times too.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
That's probably the most activity I've seen. And it was
during the day.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, during the day.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
But I know it's a really.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Good time to plug. The weekend UFO contact is the
last week of September.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Last weekend of September.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Like be there or be square. I'm telling you it
is going to be a rock and time.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I don't care what it takes. I will get here.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
We do not here.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I have to sleep for an entire week before it
picks me up and takes me to this cluster airport
and you know.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's half your problem is airport.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Oh god, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Lets me get you here. It's okay.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Oh yeah, oh god, Detroit's a piece of cake.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I know.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Oh my god, Detroit is so easy and it's amazing
because that's such a big city. You know, you would
think that it would it would be just as bad
as Orlando or Atlanta or La Guardia or god forbid
l a X, which is another one that I avoid,
like the Black plague. Okay, next questions before we run
out of time.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
Yeah, do you have a current favorite book, favorite book,
and possibly a favorite book that you've had maybe from
like your you're like from childhood or from from a
long time ago.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
It's like been your favorite book for a long time.
So are you reading anything right now? And do you
have something that.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Right now? I am reading a wonderful book called Make
Magic my favorite book. I have a number of them,
I know.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I don't know how she's going to answer this.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Waw Brideshead revisited shattering, absolutely shattering, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant Emerson's
Essays Walden by Henry David Thureaux. You want to be illuminated,
You want to be enlightened. You want to find your
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way Walden. I went to his cabin on Walden Pond.
Mm hmmm, where he wrote it, where he lived it.
Incredible Emerson's essays. My favorite of Emerson's essays as circles.
Walt Whitman Leaves of Grass. Uh, Nathaniel Hawthorne House of
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the Seven Gables, very spiritual, very enlightening. Uh, now I'm
going back to you know, grade school.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, actually that's what the question was from childhood too.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
And uh, A Gift from the Sea and Marl Lindbergh. Yeah,
favorite book. Yeah, that's really Silent Spring by Rachel Carson,
who went to Chatham College a few years before I did. Uh,
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that should be mandatory reading for everybody. And the one
book that broke my heart and I loved so much
were Charlotte's Web and it's being banned. So there's one
psychopathic woman in Texas went before the school board and
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said that if a spider was able to write words
in a web, it's an act of the devil. And
now children are being denied reading Charlotte's Web. Oh, don't
get me going now.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I'm all pissed off, all pissed off. We're not going
to do that tonight.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
We are.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
All of these books are available without getting them from
your school library extents that are awake. They can order
them for you on Amazon for okay, all right, yeah, Next.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Question, what's your favorite perfume?
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Obsession? Yes, far away from possession. Ession. Also, Avon makes
a really great uh rare gold. Okay, fabulous, It's like Frank,
It's just it's intoxicating. And I also love shalomar.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Oh, yes, yes you do, Yes you do.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Obsession first, foremost my scent. It loves my what do
you call it?
Speaker 2 (46:41):
It loves your chemistry.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
It is my body.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
It works very well with your body chemistry, it really does.
I agree that. In the Shallmar does too.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I'm not sure it smelled the Avon one.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
But no, you haven't enough.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I don't think I have. But Bill was did I
miss anything in chat? Because I haven't been pained? Verry, guys,
I buy part of It's my eyesight and I can't
even read it.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
I know, I got my right here. I can barely,
I know.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Let me let me look, let me look.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I can see beyond the stratosphere, but I can't read
a menu in a restaurant.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
I know we're all passing around a pair of cheaters
when we go out to eat, a pair in every room.
I know, I do too, I do too.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
These are my favorites, my cat.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Islands islands, those are my I think those might be
my favorite of yours.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
What about travel essentials?
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Some travel essentials.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yes, because you travel a lot.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Well, I travel a lot less than I used to. Yes,
which was weird because when I was getting ready to
go to I was nervous. I mean not just because
all the freaking planes are falling off fire, just barely
missing each other, you know, because you know, on day one,
let's fire the fucking a director. Okay that, but I
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mean so I was a little nervous. I just you know,
I wasn't was I was feeling a little like anxiety
traveling going to Atlanta, even though I had Greta the
Great to help navigate me through. But I don't know.
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I always think it's really good to have a tranquilizer.
And I do know that when I get where I'm going,
there will be gummies.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
And I do know that I imagine who would do that?
Speaker 1 (48:56):
So all right, so I'm gonna just say gummies or
travel essentially.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Okay, Okay, honest to god, I probably know your travel
essentials a little better.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Than you, probably.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Because you don't have to bring him anymore. We have
them here waiting for me, waiting for you. Get to
Atlanta Airport.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah, little baby Snickers bars, little baby peppermint past rollos,
and let's not forget the moja.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, Starbucks, Yes.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Starbucks, there we go. Yes, Okay, we can see one
more question. And they told me five minutes because he's mean,
I know I'm at the freaking clock back Bill, I
mean you know, I mean, don't you have one of
those that you can like you know, No you don't, Okay,
do you?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (49:51):
That's right?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Somebody says, yeah, we call we call it the Bermuda
Triangle when we were tight. This says, I live in
ho and like we call it the triangle. You can leave,
but you keep coming back.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah. It's kind of like California. You can check out
anytime you like, Hotel California.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
We just need to call it Hotel California in that
lakeside because I I've never experienced anything like it.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I mean, well, the thing is, honey, that we spend
so much of our time in fifth dimension. I know,
you know, he asked all about it. I mean he
had to literally leave the room when the energy got
so high that he couldn't breathe anything.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
I had to keep leaving this time. Yeah, a lot
more than I normally do.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, and you know what I mean, I'm bringing that
same energy with me.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
And you're allowed to go down to my room and
go lay down and just you know, you know, or
your own room.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I mean, better have my own room.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, but my room was closer this year.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Your closer here. And that was nice.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
That was it was and I really really really hope
that that happens again, because well it loves that room.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yep. We got we got everything worked out.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
But that was that was a truly inspiring and incredibly
enlightening you know with I mean we had Val and
Marie and and Mimi and my god deb and oh jeez, Jonathan,
I love you too. Love.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
There's Bill. Okay, did I miss anything?
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Bill?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Sorry? Was looking?
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Well, we'll set we'll do a zoom thing. Yeah, and
then we'll we'll put it all out of time. Go ahead,
laugh it up, fuzzball. We'll we'll set a zoom and
we'll do it and someone close out tonight. I thank
you with all my heart for being here with me.
I thank everybody for putting up with you know what
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was that thing that we just put up about. You know,
I'm like a Southern Bell. I have the hospital southern
bell and the emotional stability of a raccoon lost in
a dollar store. So yeah, okay, so that and I we.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Do not care.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
We do not care. I love you all. Be the
light that you seek. Have a wonderful weekend, and we'll
see you in a couple of weeks back here on
Soul School because we're not live next week because Bill's
got an event, so we run this. This was fun, Yes,
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and you know his stuff. He's because you know producer stuff.
I love you all, I talk to you a little bit. Bye.