August 1, 2025 • 54 mins
NOW is the time to share thoughts and messages, downloads and intuition as we confront what is evil in this world. It is a counterintuitive concept to think we'll heal the hearts of those who don't seem to have one. Instead, we must focus all of our positive energy on those who are already positively charged, those who have not lost hope, those who see the Light. Join us for a blunt discussion, a brutally honest, purifying, cleansing and healing hour of revelations and spiritual enlightenment. Jamilah Simmons is my special guest. You will see the path to peace illuminated before your eyes. The Immutable Law of Attraction is cosmic, ethereal and corporeal in equal measure.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Ah good, You've mean everybody and beautiful Jamila, Well yeah,
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well I welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
To a world awakening. I know I'm not Andrea. I
look offe dark, don't I neither?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Am I? All right? I know we look a lot alike, but.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right, but we carry the same love. If anybody doesn't know,
Andrea is a bit under the weather this evening, so
Soul School had to be next, but she did ask
me to fill in for her here, and of course
I'm very honored to do that. And I do want
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to take a second to say thank you, thank you,
thank you to Kgierre and mostly to our wonderful producer Skywatcher,
because he's always so good at working with us, last minute, crisis, anything,
He's on it and he makes things happen for all
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of us. So thank you to Bill into Kgire so Jamila,
so wonderful we get to be here together, which is
the yes, Yes it is. And I love Annie's title
for tonight because everything about tonight is everything that we
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are anyways, and one of our favorite topics the big Love.
Hi Tom, I just love Tom. You know one thing
I can say about Andrey and she has some amazing
saying wonderful followers, and you know, I always feel blessed
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when we can be on here and.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Shares them with us because she loves them so much.
And this is.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
A blessing, right, you know, because everybody is Andrea's best friend. Yes,
and she's not kidding when she says that, because that
love that she radiates, it approves it. So okay, I
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see Darryl asking, where's Annie, Daryl, I'm sorry, it's me tonight,
at me, it's us. Annie is under the weather tonight,
she's not feeling well. She hopes to be back with
you next week, but tonight she just couldn't do it.
So so we want.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
To send her all the healing, all the love. We
want her to get better, and of course we want
her to take the time that she needs so she
can be everything she wants to be and get out
there and kick butt like she always does. So tonight
we step in so she can do what we always
advocate for, which is loving on yourself and knowing when
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to take that break.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So absolutely, absolutely, and who deserves it more than Andrea Parrin.
You know she gets her all always, it's always and always, yes,
so I know I can't kill her shoes, but we're
here to love on y'all anyways. That's right. So the
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whole theme behind this show, Jamila, as you know, is
can we get through all of this with love?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's the only way we're going to make it through.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, So what do you think? I mean, what is
this whole love thing? And how are we going to
get through some of this crazy chaos that our planet's
going through.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The first thing we have to understand is realizing what
love is and what it isn't. When we say love,
a lot of times people just automatically go to this
place of complacence doramat, you know, weakness and things like that.
Love is everything opposite of that. Love is strength. Love
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is realizing that someone is hurting and stepping in and
giving them strength. Love is realizing that we can't do
it alone. Love is realizing that sometimes I have to
love you enough to tell you to back off. Love
is not passive. Love is an action word. Love is
not just something we hold. Love is something that we do.
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So the first step that we need to understand is
really realizing what but love is and what it isn't.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It does to me? Yeah, And I do think there's
a lot of confusion around love, yeah, because really, you know,
we weren't raised to of course, you know our parents,
I love you and I love you back and all
of that, but we were raised in a society where
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love was always very conditional.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's so many different titles to it. You're talking about love.
That's more like the law of one love, that's right.
It's not always a pretty thing.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, supposed to be, you know. And it all goes
back to understanding that no matter what you feel, no
matter what you believe, no matter where you come from,
if we go far enough back, we all come from
one place, you know what I mean, And not just
in the spiritual sense, which of course we do, but
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scientifically as well. I believe it's called mitochondrial eve. So
we can all be traced back to one woman, you understand,
and we are all coming from that place and that
unconditional love. And if we can understand that, we can
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move forward. But until we start loving, not just because
we have to, not just because something happened to us,
and now we understand, you know what I mean, it
has to be a place from we are working to
make the world a better place, not just I'm working
to get what I can and then can what I get.
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You see what I'm saying, It's just it's not going
to work that way, So we really have to stop
looking at love is this, Oh my god, honey, I
just love your sum type stuff. It's not always like that,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Are you seen? It's not always rainbows and butterflies or uniforms.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And sometimes love is the word no. Sometimes love is
saying listen, because I love you, I need to tell
you this, and I need to tell you how I feel.
Love also means being ready for a very not so
happy outcome. It doesn't matter the outcome. Love comes from truth,
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you understand, and truth is not always what you want
it to be. But truth is what it is no
matter what. Truth is truth not alternative truths, not my
version of the truth. A truth is a truth is
a truth and there's no way around it, you know.
And loving starts with loving yourself enough to know that
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you have to be okay no matter what, and that
you're going to make it through no matter what, and
that no matter what I'm going through, my first response,
my default setting. You know how you have to reset
your TV to the default setting so you can get Netflix.
My default setting is love period.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I so believe that. Andrea
and I have said both said for years on our shows.
Love is always the answer, And people, anybody listening has
heard the term so many times from both of us,
higher love and highest love because it is a different
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kind of love, it truly is. It's that connection of
the whole. Everybody knows that right now in this country,
we have different sides, we have opposites, we have you know,
a lot of not love going on. So how do
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we as a society, as the people, as higher vibrating beings,
fix this with love?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yes, that's difficult, it's very difficult, but it's also doable,
and it doesn't I think. The first and foremost thing
is that love sometimes means that we have to have
the uncomfortable conversations. If I love you, if I love
my community, if I love the movement that we're trying
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to create, then I have to be open at least
for a conversation. Love also means that I do no harm,
but I take no shit. Okay, So love does not
mean I have to allow you to speak to me
any kind of way I want to because I love
myself enough to know that my energy is priceless. My
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peace is my perfection, my energy, my surroundings is pressure.
They're precious to me. So while I will have a conversation,
I will not allow you to disrupt my peace. Love
is also realizing that, you know, if we can't have discourse,
then we probably don't need to be, you know, around
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each other. Because I have to love myself enough to
know I will throw punch you if.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean, I knew that was going to come out.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Sometimes I don't mean to it, just that's why I
have to love myself to know that I have to
be selective, you know, but I am open. I one
of one of the things I'm most proud of is
that when the tough, you know, we all post things
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that start conversations, be it good, bad, or indifferent. We
know that, right. But one of my biggest flexes is
that people will message me and ask me the hard questions.
And I love that because they know I love them
enough that if they don't word it properly, I can
see what they mean. If they ask me something that
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they feel might be disrespectful, they don't mean it that way,
but they I put out enough love that they know
they can. They're comfortable asking me. And when they do
ask me, it's not being facetious, it's not being messy,
it's truly I really want to know, why do you
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feel this way? You know, I have people that I
still love that don't agree with me. But we can
have conversations, you know what I mean, because I know
their heart. They're not quite seeing things clearly yet, but
we'll get them there. But that's love. That is love,
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and that is how we have to move period. There's
just there's just no way around it. I don't think.
I don't want to be in the world without love.
I don't want to be in a community without love.
I don't want to be in a conversation without love.
I don't want to be around you know, period, right right?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And I can tell you because we are very close friends.
We spend a lot of time together, we have our
and we actually have a ministry together with some of
our best ties, including Andrea. One of the reasons that
people come to you with questions like that is they
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know they can trust you and they know they will
get truth.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
All day because I love you enough not to b
su right.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That does a lot about your loves, you know, because
if we can't give that truth, yes, that does cause distrust,
and it causes lower vibration and just all kinds of
you know, lower emotions. So I really respect that because
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I know that if I come to you with something,
I'm going to get it one hundred percent truth from
your heart. You know. It doesn't matter if I agree
all the time or not, but whether it's good, bad,
or ugly, you're going to give it to me, and.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'll receive it too. I will receive you. There are
things that I've been corrected on, and I love you,
myself and my community enough to say, hey, okay, because
sometimes when we ask a question, people think we're asking.
We are so toxic right now that when you ask
a question, people automatically assume you're asking just because you're
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trying to be messy, you know what I mean, not knowing.
I'm really asking because I'm trying to understand. I love
you enough to try to understand why you feel this way?
Why why? And I think a lot of us, you know,
we have we've been conditioned not to listen. Love means listening.
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We're just waiting for our turn to talk. We don't
want to come to an understanding. We just want to
be right. Love means I might not be right. Every
conversation that I start, I am okay with. If the
outcome is I'm not right, then I'm learning, you know
what I mean. So I don't think that people start
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conversations from that from that point, And I think that's
where loving yourself enough to want to grow any way
you can has to take place, has to come into play.
So it's just it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It is a lot. It is a lot. And you know,
it sounds like such a food food conversation to and
I thought about that when Annie told me, you know
what the show is about tonight with them, people can
think this is foodful, but really thinking about it, it's
where we have to bring discussion right now because of
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the opposite going on exactly. You know, just for the record,
the opposite of love is not hate, it's fear. So
when you see people in that angry mode, it's usually
fear based. All negative emotions are derived from fear. Yes,
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So if other people can understand that sometimes people are
not very kind because they are fearful, yes, because they
have been through hell and back themselves, and they don't
trust anybody. They're angry at everybody, They're angry at life.
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You know, others need to just understand that we are
all in the same boat together at the same time.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, yes, yeah, and that's that easy. Isn't easy. I
am exhausted spiritually, mentally, physically, and just exhausted because this
is hard, especially for some of us leos who have
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not always been operating out of love. I can admit
that I was not a person where my default operating
system was love. My default operating system was survival.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
However that looked like okay, and it was I'm coming
at you before you can come at me and hurt me.
You know what I mean. I know you're gonna hurt me.
I know you are, so let me let me get
mine in first. You know, like it's it. It is hard,
and a lot of us are operating from there, not
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even realizing it, not even realizing it. I have had people,
especially in this climate now, they assume they know what
I'm going to say before I even say it. They
assume they know how I feel about a certain situation
before even starting the conversation. So now instead of a
place of love, they're coming from a place of they
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have to defend their stanits with like a pitbull or
a bulldog or a chihuaha, because those little I digress.
But so they are coming at me like, you don't
even know what I'm gonna say. You don't even you're
not even giving me a chance. You know what I'm saying.
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You don't know what you think you know. And that's
not love for me, for yourself, for the world, nothing like.
It's not. Love is an action word. Love is a verb.
Love is not something that you just feel. Love is
something that you practice, and you practice it because it's hard.
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You practice it because it's not it's not where we
usually come from. It's not especially nowadays, it's not where
we come from. So I just encourage people, especially right now.
Our words are very important. Our words, just our words
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are the first thing people hear, first thing people see.
Take a minute, Take five seconds before you say anything,
before you answer a question, especially in the tough situations,
just hold off a second, don't react, don't just jump off.
It's not helping. Don't assume if you really care about healing,
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raising vibrations because what we are supposed to be doing
right now, we're supposed to be creating micro movements, raising
vibrations in little pockets because all those little pockets can
come together and then we can start mass healing. I
know that sounds foo food and new age and things
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like that, but it is what it is. That old
commercial and so on so on. So it's just like that.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, some good points, some very good points, you know,
And I can't help but think about the human reaction.
There's so much unkindness going on right now. I actually
dealt with some today just walking through Walmart parking lot.
I had this big black truck yell some things that
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weren't very nice, and I wanted to turn around and
flip them off and you know, get it back to them.
And I took deep breath and I thought, I can't
respond to this with the same vibration that they are
putting it out, because that's holding that low vibration. So
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I just smiled and tipped my head and continued walking.
You know, I'm thinking, so the love some them blessings,
I still want to flip them off.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Clipping them off, you're just telling them their number one
That's that's love. That's encouragement, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No? No, you know, I live in a small town
and then people, some people know, you know what I
stand for, and.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
So yeah, I've had that love. Yeah, not so long ago,
especially being a woman of color in a rural town.
And you know, I'm gonna have to send you love,
but not but because anything before the butt don't count,
I'm gonna send you love. I'm also I go to
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the gas station and you know, lady just assumes I
don't live here, and you know, and it hurts, and
I'm like, wait a minute, well I've never seen you.
How do you know? You've never seen it? And then,
because I'm operating out of love, I am trying to
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guide this conversation in a way where can you hear
what you're saying? Do you understand? Can you hear what
you're saying? And if so, I'm giving you every opportunity
to stop. You know, That's how I love because what
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I wanted to do was something completely different, which we
won't describe right now, but yeah, you know, and then
we're end the conversation. I'm not yelling or screaming my
discomfort and my displeasure is known, but it's known with
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a smile on my face, and then I move on,
you know. But that I have to go through that
a lot, you know, And it's it's hard to stay
in a in a mode of love when every place
you turn people are shooting daggers at you one way
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or the other. You know, and everybody you know, certain
people they assume, you know, they believe the stereotype that
I'm automatically angry. No, I just have a loud mouth.
I'm not. Anybody who knows me knows anger is not
my first. My first thing is shenaniganst. You know that,
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you know my first I operate out of shenaniganst inappropriateness.
That's that's not me, That's where I come from. It's
just hard, But I think that one of the ways,
and I really do mean this, one of the ways,
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the best way that we operate out of love is
by surrounding ourselves with people who also operate from love,
because therein lies our strength. Because when I'm feeling low,
I can pull from you and vice versa. And when
we try to do this thing on our own, it's
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just not the same. It's just not the same. So
I encourage everybody watching. If you do not have a
community or a few friends or whatever, either a start
your own be search out some around you your right now,
a lot of people are underground. We're some of the
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few that we don't care. We're not going underground because
I love is too big to be buried. Okay, so
you know, but don't don't isolate yourself. Don't think that
you can do this by yourself. It's too toxic. We
have too many many people that are transitioning themselves away
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from this plane because they think they can do it
on their own, and they're suffering in silence. And that's
not what we want. The world needs your voice. We
need your voice, We need your love. So seek us out,
seek someone out. Talk. Just don't try to do this
on your own. Love is knowing that sometimes we can't
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do this by ourselves.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You know, very well said. And humans are not supposed
to We're not meant to be solitude. We're not meant
to be totally alone. We're supposed to gathering groups. You know,
you go all the way back in time, there's always
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been tribes and in some sort of groups of people,
and there's a lot of power in that. It's like
when we get together and I want to bring up
the fact that Tom Owen is putting in the Saturday
Night Healing circle for Andrey and he has Andrea's angels
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on Facebook. The most wonderful thing about doing things like
that is you can't put it out and not feel
it back. So when you're in a group of people,
even if you can't physically be together, but you're all
sending out that same vibration, that same love and healing,
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it's felt, and that in itself is what can get
us through all of the negative that's going on. I
think it's going to, you know, over time here become
less and less and less because more of us are,
you know, stepping up and speaking out. Just like you said.
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We need those voices, need that strength, We need the power.
You know, my camera is really dark tonight. I don't
know if anyone can see, but this is this is
my buddy right here, Kwan Yin. She always hangs with me.
Sometimes I hit her back a little bit, but can
you see her at all? Let us she's so gorgeous.
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She's a basic is Look at her. You know, she
started something long ago. She's the Goddess of compassion and mercy,
and that is love. And you see somebody who you
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don't agree with, but you know they're hurting, and you
know that for some reason they just can't grasp what
you're putting out there. Instead of being angry at them
and saying hurtful things, Christ sending you off, Christ saying
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I understand, be compassionate.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Even when you're by yourself, when you think of them,
instead of having I'm the time, I'll be there. Like
I don't know how many people know, but I am
neu divergent. I have a brain that works differently than
other people. So I have full blown conversations in my
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head sometimes, and you know, and they're real to me,
like as real as you are right there. So it's like,
instead of going over the last time you spoke to them,
and if I was here, I'd say this or whatever
and send them you know, I wish you well say
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it out loud because your words have power. So if
you think of that person like you said that that
you know you disagree with, instead of holding on to
that lower vibrational feeling, raise it yourself. Even if they
don't know it. It's not for them it's for you,
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you know what I'm saying. It's raising the vibration so
your vibration can stay up. Because what happens is when
that vibration lowers, if you have any health issues, it
makes them worse. If you have anything else going on,
it makes that worse. You know, So send them love,
wish them well. Sometimes love means loving people from a distance.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I was going to bring that up next. I'm you know,
and being wise enough and considerate enough to realize that
that is best. All the way around. There are people
and then you know, like you said, you know that
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it's best to love them from a distance. I can
love people that I don't really agree with or you know,
you know there are people out there that mean now,
so well, it's okay to love them from a distance.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Because honestly, I'm gonna be very real with you. I'm
still on my journey. I'm not there yet, so I
need to love you from a distance because if we're
around each other, I don't know that I could love
you the way I need. And that's just me being
very real because that's part of love too, is realizing
where you yourself need to do a little work. So
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that's my shadow work. It's trying to be consistent, you know,
trying to do those things. But I know there are
certain people and situations that in order for me to
still have high vibrational feelings towards you, we don't need
to be around each other all the time. When I
see you, it's cool. You know, we're all good. And
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you know, if you ever need, if you really did,
really really down and you called, I'm there, you know
what I mean, Because I would do that for anybody,
So why would not do that for you? You know
what I mean? But we have to love people on
their level. We have to. We have to realize that.
And it's not And here's the thing. It's not somebody
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being superior, because I hear that a lot. Oh you
just think you're better than people? No, No, far from it.
I have fallen way short. I'm not better, nor am
I worse than anybody else. I just know what I
have to work on where I am on my walk
and my journey. And for me, that means that I
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have to love people, certain people from a distance. That
doesn't mean they're bad. That just means that we not
we all have radios, but we're not all listening to
the same state.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right, right, and yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. And
sometimes people, I mean, you can see animals, dogs are
all wonderful. I love dogs, I love all animals. But
every now and then two dogs will meet up and
fight like crazy. Humans are the same way. Sometime sometimes
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our energy just does not mash. And I'm going to
go back several years, probably twenty years ago. I met
a person online. I actually was doing a ministry forum
that I built, and I met this person who was
also a minister, and we just hit it right off,
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and we talked and talked and talked. We ended up
talking on the phone. We started doing healing groups, and
the healing that we would send out was just you know,
everybody would comment how oneonderful it was, how strong it was.
He was a yogi. He became a very very good friend.
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Ended up coming up to where I live. He was
in Chicago at the time, and he came to spend time,
and when we would sit in healing mode, in our
spiritual mode, it was remarkable. I actually had someone pull
in my driveway and say, there was a glow coming
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out at the top of your house. Wow, people in
my house would say, God, I don't know what's going on.
When you and Mark do that healing thing, it's like
everything lights up and it feels staticky. So it was
incredible our energy when it came to spiritual work and healing.
But if we hung out together, I wanted to punch
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him in the face and him was saying for me.
You know, it was just we could not be third
dimensional together. Yeah, And once we realized that, we were
very cautious to you know, keep our time. We could
still talk together as friends online or on the phone.
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Just don't put our energies together in the same building
unless we are higher vibrational and in the fourth or
fifth dimension, because we're going to hurt one another.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Okay, But that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Right, that's part of it, and that is just how
it goes. Some humans cannot You just can't mix those.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Energies and don't force it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
No gosh, no about it.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Thank you. That's love.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I can honestly tell you I love this person
with all that I am and I will always probably
many lifetimes. He is now on the other side, but
we still communicate often and we still do healing work together.
Rarely do I do any sessions without him.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
That's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
But I think next to me, I'm going to punch him.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think that if more people were honest with themselves,
and really, the thing is that we seek, whether we
want to admit it or not, we seek acceptance and validation.
And sometimes the things that are honest are not necessarily
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socially accepted or the the you know what, people think
that we should do, so we kind of conform instead
of being honest. One of the ways I see this
a lot is in relationships. I talk to a lot
of people, and if they were just honest with each
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other in the beginning or whatever about what their needs
are and what they wanted, you know, then a lot
of the things that they go through wouldn't be there
because it's just you're trying to force things that don't fit,
and that never works. That's the same for relationships, churches, jobs.
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Like I tried to fit into a size tengene and
it just didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Not for a very long time. I might do it
just for the fun of it, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I just feel like I feel like I am overall
just so much better physically, mentally, spiritually, operating from a
place of love first, and that is what I want
for everyone. And I get that, well, how can I
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love especially there's a group of people that operate a
certain way and you go, well, how can I love them?
It's not about loving them per se, It's about just
operating out of love first. You know, nobody is saying
that you have to coddle and be whatever. That's not
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what love is. Love is truth, love is you know.
I know a lot of people you know, and I
don't care what faith you are, but a lot of
people like to when they talk about love, they want
to talk about Jesus and they want to talk talk
about how Jesus behaved and how meek he was. And
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then I asked them, I'm like, what book you read?
Because the Jesus had I read about had an attitude. Okay,
he was turning over tables, you know. He was like,
how you're gonna be mad at somebody, how you're gonna
see past talk about a splinter when you got a
whole two by four in your eye? You know what
I mean? Like, I don't know who you were talking about.
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That's not what love is. Understanding what love is, and
if you don't really know, then look in the different
you know, practices about Go look what the Eastern faiths
say about love. Go look at what Buddhism and the Eaching,
Go look at what Islam says about You have to
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be just be knowledgeable about what love really is, you know,
because it's not this weak. It doesn't make you weak.
Love makes you stronger, you know, and then love makes
you stronger together.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Right, yeah, it's you know, it's a little useless if
you don't share it, come on ascept it. And I
think that the very first person that we have to
love is ourselves, and that's the hardest. But you know,
thinking about Buddha and Jesus, they were like the ones
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who taught us, taught people their followers, not that you know,
not that either of them one to be a deity,
but they taught people number one, do no harm, but
take no shit.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
COmON no.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Maybe not those words, but that's what they taught really
very well could have been. But yes, loving ourselves is
very difficult. But if we don't, you know, we have
to realize that we are a part of everything else.
Even those people that we don't agree with are a
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part the same thing. We're a part of. We come
from the same place. Like you said, you know, we
all put our pants on the same way. We all
need water, we all need food, and we all need loves.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That's right. And when you talk about loving yourself people,
how do I do that? Yeah, first and foremost, speak
life to yourself. No one. We were having a conversation
the other day when we were sitting together and we
were talking, and the first one of the things we
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were talking about is no one can talk bad to
you and make you feel bad like you. We say
some of the most horrific things to ourselves. So what
I would like anyone listening to this, no matter when
you listen to it, I would like you to be
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very mindful of what you're inward thoughts are what you
think about yourself, what you say to yourself. And if
you need a little exercise, my dad, who was a pastor,
always used to give us this exercise for twenty four hours.
Pretend that every single thing you say comes to pass
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literally and exactly. So you make me sick, you know,
I hate you know, blah blah blah blah blah. Just
be really mindful of what you say. Because one of
the things the kids were saying that I had to like,
I don't allow in my house. I'm dead. Ooh, I'm dead,
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like ooh, stop that, stopping not that, because even though
you don't mean it, and the way it is, if
you say it over and over and over and over again,
you know the whole Oh I just can't do that.
Oh but I just and it just comes out of
your mouth so quickly. You talk so bad.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
If you treated your spouse the way you treated yourself,
y'all be divorced. If you treated your best friend the
way you treated yourself, you wouldn't have a best friend.
And the bad part about it is you talk to
your friends and you speak life unto them, You encourage them,
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you want the best for them, and then you get
by yourself.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
And you talk to yourself like you you don't even
want to be with you no more, but you can't escape,
so you might as well want to be with you.
Who else gonna be with you if you ain't gonna
be with you? You know what I'm saying, Like, come on,
so please, my loves. If you don't get anything else
from this conversation, tonight, be easy on yourself. Speak life
unto yourself. Get affirmations, if that's something that you need
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to do. When you get up in the morning, I
want you to get up and look in the mirror
and say, hey, Saxy, Yes, I love all this weight,
I love all this fluff. You see the people I've
been to you. It's about this big forehead my whole life,
and it is fabulous because it holds the knowledge of
my answer.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Does you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I have big feet my whole life, but those big
feet helped me walk through this world and change people.
That's what you have to do. That's what we want
for you. That's where the love starts. It starts with you.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yep, put it out if we're not putting it in.
That is so, so so true. And it's funny that
you brought up our conversation from the other night because
I'm sitting here thinking, oh yeah, that conversation, and it
actually started with me saying I busted myself, that's right,
telling myself I didn't deserve something, and it dawned on
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me that I had manifested something myself. Now, y'all know
I'm very spiritual, I'm old. I should have gotten it
by now. But I want you to all know none
of us are perfect. And you know, this whole soul
school is life and we're always learning. It's never too late.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
So when we leave this world, we're still going to
have stuff left to learn.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh we never come back absolutely, so yeah, I mean
it's okay, and it's It was good for me to
realize that I had manifested that myself and I did
give myself a little bit of a spanking. I probably
liked it, but just me, but I did, you know,
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I had to talk with myself about it. But realizing
it made a difference.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
That's right. Because once you put some once you put
a word to something, once you name something, you can
speak to it. You can move on it, right, you
can change it.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, So try to notice when when you're not quite
so nice to yourself. You know, self criticism can be
helpful if it's constructing the healthy way, constructive, But to
tell yourself it's because I never deserved it anyway, And.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Stop listening to what you've heard over the years, right,
Stop allowing other people to speak your identity to you.
Stop giving your power away to other people. It's not
nobody has a heaven or hell to put you in
point blank and period likes nobody has that. Don't allow
people and what they feel about you to become your identity.
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You are in control of your identity. You are in
control of who you present to the world, who you're
going to be, and what you go out here and do.
That's where the love comes from. Love yourself enough to
know that you are a rock star. Love yourself enough
to realize that you are somebody's ancestor. You get that
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you are, you are an ancestor.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I am a me too.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I will be fifty three into me.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's coming up soon, yes, right.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I'm like, I'm my mama's age. Like when I think
back to when I was a teenager, you know, when
you think about your your growing up and stuff, and
I look at the times of my life, I'm like,
am my mama's age. I'm somebody's mama.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Right right, you know. And you know I've got several
grands and a couple of great grands, so I get it.
I do want to stop for a moment in case
there are people here that we're not here in the beginning,
to let you know that Annie is not here because
she's under the weather tonight and asked me to fill
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in for her and know I can't fill her shoes,
but hopefully I feel her hurt. So everybody please send
love and healing in prayers Annie's way. Let's wrap her
in a nice blanket of angel wings and and just
love on her. She needs that right now.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
She loves on all of us. That's the least we
can do.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yause she does. She gives love so freely that you know,
there's been times I've actually worried about her. You know,
be cautious. We do have to use caution, so o
Kate sometimes to love people and know that you need
to not get scammed by them because excuse me, that
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happens too. My sentences have been horrid.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, mute for a second, clock, but it is okay.
But we do want to send our love to Annie.
We want to encourage you. One of the things we
were talking about is Unity Tree Interfaith Ministries. We are
going to start doing some things online. So if you
are on Facebook, please go to Unity Tree Interfaith Ministries,
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follow us and all of us. Annie is a excuse me,
Annie is a founder along with all of us, and
we are going to because earlier we were talking about
how we need to spread this love between everybody and
one of the things we were meeting in person and
I don't know if that was going to talk about this.
I'm sorry if I'm stepping on anything, but we are
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going to start doing things online because so many people
want to be a part of it, but they're not
here locally. So we have been meeting locally, but we
have been led to do more things digitally, so more
of you could be a part of it. Because I've
gotten messages, debs, gotten messages. So this is something that
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Source wants us to do. So I encourage you to
go to Unity Tree inter Faith Ministries on Facebook and
just hit follow and that way, you know, when we
are getting ready to do our lives or lessons that
we put out whatever Source tells us to do. And
I'm sorry it's not as structured as some things are,
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but right now we just want to hear what Sort
wants us to do.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
So that I think that you know, that's one of
the things I love about our group is we are
all you know, we speak, we get downloads, it comes out.
Sometimes we have no idea. A lot of times we
don't even plan what we're now there. Well, okay, so
(50:45):
we're like down to four minutes. But you know, we're
led by spirit, we're led by the galactic family, we're
led by Source. We are lud and we are a
voice and we're not afraid to use it. So that's
what the ministry is all about, is just being there,
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being that voice through whatever is needed and helping out.
Speaking of helping out, I mentioned earlier about Tom Owens
having the group Andrey's Angels on Facebook. Every Saturday night
at eight pm. We all send a lot of love
and healing to Andrey at eight o'clock, you know, the
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same time. So it's a collective. You know, you always
hear about that power of prayer. That's exactly what this is.
It's so so that even sending the energy, I'm just
getting all kinds of energy and love back. And so
when we heal others, we're healing the whole. We're healing us.
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And you know that is so important because that is
sharing that love and spreading it. Yes, so the healing
goes way way beyond yes, what we You know, I
always have a little group of people that I send
to every single night, but I always ask Spirit to
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send to whoever needs it to send it to mother
Earth to send it to the universe and just keep
it going. So we're like about out of time here,
but Jamila, thank you, thanks, thank you. It's been so
nice to talk to you. I mean, we don't love
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our part of our great friends, so you know, I'm
blessed to be able to do it a little more
often than some people. But this has been and I
thank you and I love you, and.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Whoever's listening, I thank you guys, and know that you're
awesome to and just start loving on yourself. I just
need you to do that. I need that for you,
that you are worthy of all the love. You are
worthy to be the rock star that you are. And
I just remember the same energy I say it over
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and over again, but the same energy that created the
universe is in you. You are powerful and whatever it
is you're going through right now, you're gonna make it
through it and then you're gonna help somebody else after. Okay,
So just know that you two did.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
I will thank you. Thank you for sharing us with
me on a daily basis. I love you, and we
love everybody out there. And remember Andrea's words, be the
light that you sink. Good night, everybody. We love you all,
take care. Spread the love
Speaker 3 (54:02):
M
Ah good, You've mean everybody and beautiful Jamila, Well yeah,
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well I welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
To a world awakening. I know I'm not Andrea. I
look offe dark, don't I neither?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Am I? All right? I know we look a lot alike, but.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right, but we carry the same love. If anybody doesn't know,
Andrea is a bit under the weather this evening, so
Soul School had to be next, but she did ask
me to fill in for her here, and of course
I'm very honored to do that. And I do want
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to take a second to say thank you, thank you,
thank you to Kgierre and mostly to our wonderful producer Skywatcher,
because he's always so good at working with us, last minute, crisis, anything,
He's on it and he makes things happen for all
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of us. So thank you to Bill into Kgire so Jamila,
so wonderful we get to be here together, which is
the yes, Yes it is. And I love Annie's title
for tonight because everything about tonight is everything that we
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are anyways, and one of our favorite topics the big Love.
Hi Tom, I just love Tom. You know one thing
I can say about Andrey and she has some amazing
saying wonderful followers, and you know, I always feel blessed
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when we can be on here and.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Shares them with us because she loves them so much.
And this is.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
A blessing, right, you know, because everybody is Andrea's best friend. Yes,
and she's not kidding when she says that, because that
love that she radiates, it approves it. So okay, I
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see Darryl asking, where's Annie, Daryl, I'm sorry, it's me tonight,
at me, it's us. Annie is under the weather tonight,
she's not feeling well. She hopes to be back with
you next week, but tonight she just couldn't do it.
So so we want.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
To send her all the healing, all the love. We
want her to get better, and of course we want
her to take the time that she needs so she
can be everything she wants to be and get out
there and kick butt like she always does. So tonight
we step in so she can do what we always
advocate for, which is loving on yourself and knowing when
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to take that break.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So absolutely, absolutely, and who deserves it more than Andrea Parrin.
You know she gets her all always, it's always and always, yes,
so I know I can't kill her shoes, but we're
here to love on y'all anyways. That's right. So the
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whole theme behind this show, Jamila, as you know, is
can we get through all of this with love?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's the only way we're going to make it through.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, So what do you think? I mean, what is
this whole love thing? And how are we going to
get through some of this crazy chaos that our planet's
going through.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The first thing we have to understand is realizing what
love is and what it isn't. When we say love,
a lot of times people just automatically go to this
place of complacence doramat, you know, weakness and things like that.
Love is everything opposite of that. Love is strength. Love
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is realizing that someone is hurting and stepping in and
giving them strength. Love is realizing that we can't do
it alone. Love is realizing that sometimes I have to
love you enough to tell you to back off. Love
is not passive. Love is an action word. Love is
not just something we hold. Love is something that we do.
(05:52):
So the first step that we need to understand is
really realizing what but love is and what it isn't.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It does to me? Yeah, And I do think there's
a lot of confusion around love, yeah, because really, you know,
we weren't raised to of course, you know our parents,
I love you and I love you back and all
of that, but we were raised in a society where
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love was always very conditional.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's so many different titles to it. You're talking about love.
That's more like the law of one love, that's right.
It's not always a pretty thing.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, supposed to be, you know. And it all goes
back to understanding that no matter what you feel, no
matter what you believe, no matter where you come from,
if we go far enough back, we all come from
one place, you know what I mean, And not just
in the spiritual sense, which of course we do, but
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scientifically as well. I believe it's called mitochondrial eve. So
we can all be traced back to one woman, you understand,
and we are all coming from that place and that
unconditional love. And if we can understand that, we can
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move forward. But until we start loving, not just because
we have to, not just because something happened to us,
and now we understand, you know what I mean, it
has to be a place from we are working to
make the world a better place, not just I'm working
to get what I can and then can what I get.
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You see what I'm saying, It's just it's not going
to work that way, So we really have to stop
looking at love is this, Oh my god, honey, I
just love your sum type stuff. It's not always like that,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Are you seen? It's not always rainbows and butterflies or uniforms.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And sometimes love is the word no. Sometimes love is
saying listen, because I love you, I need to tell
you this, and I need to tell you how I feel.
Love also means being ready for a very not so
happy outcome. It doesn't matter the outcome. Love comes from truth,
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you understand, and truth is not always what you want
it to be. But truth is what it is no
matter what. Truth is truth not alternative truths, not my
version of the truth. A truth is a truth is
a truth and there's no way around it, you know.
And loving starts with loving yourself enough to know that
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you have to be okay no matter what, and that
you're going to make it through no matter what, and
that no matter what I'm going through, my first response,
my default setting. You know how you have to reset
your TV to the default setting so you can get Netflix.
My default setting is love period.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I so believe that. Andrea
and I have said both said for years on our shows.
Love is always the answer, And people, anybody listening has
heard the term so many times from both of us,
higher love and highest love because it is a different
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kind of love, it truly is. It's that connection of
the whole. Everybody knows that right now in this country,
we have different sides, we have opposites, we have you know,
a lot of not love going on. So how do
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we as a society, as the people, as higher vibrating beings,
fix this with love?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yes, that's difficult, it's very difficult, but it's also doable,
and it doesn't I think. The first and foremost thing
is that love sometimes means that we have to have
the uncomfortable conversations. If I love you, if I love
my community, if I love the movement that we're trying
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to create, then I have to be open at least
for a conversation. Love also means that I do no harm,
but I take no shit. Okay, So love does not
mean I have to allow you to speak to me
any kind of way I want to because I love
myself enough to know that my energy is priceless. My
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peace is my perfection, my energy, my surroundings is pressure.
They're precious to me. So while I will have a conversation,
I will not allow you to disrupt my peace. Love
is also realizing that, you know, if we can't have discourse,
then we probably don't need to be, you know, around
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each other. Because I have to love myself enough to
know I will throw punch you if.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean, I knew that was going to come out.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Sometimes I don't mean to it, just that's why I
have to love myself to know that I have to
be selective, you know, but I am open. I one
of one of the things I'm most proud of is
that when the tough, you know, we all post things
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that start conversations, be it good, bad, or indifferent. We
know that, right. But one of my biggest flexes is
that people will message me and ask me the hard questions.
And I love that because they know I love them
enough that if they don't word it properly, I can
see what they mean. If they ask me something that
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they feel might be disrespectful, they don't mean it that way,
but they I put out enough love that they know
they can. They're comfortable asking me. And when they do
ask me, it's not being facetious, it's not being messy,
it's truly I really want to know, why do you
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feel this way? You know, I have people that I
still love that don't agree with me. But we can
have conversations, you know what I mean, because I know
their heart. They're not quite seeing things clearly yet, but
we'll get them there. But that's love. That is love,
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and that is how we have to move period. There's
just there's just no way around it. I don't think.
I don't want to be in the world without love.
I don't want to be in a community without love.
I don't want to be in a conversation without love.
I don't want to be around you know, period, right right?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And I can tell you because we are very close friends.
We spend a lot of time together, we have our
and we actually have a ministry together with some of
our best ties, including Andrea. One of the reasons that
people come to you with questions like that is they
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know they can trust you and they know they will
get truth.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
All day because I love you enough not to b
su right.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That does a lot about your loves, you know, because
if we can't give that truth, yes, that does cause distrust,
and it causes lower vibration and just all kinds of
you know, lower emotions. So I really respect that because
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I know that if I come to you with something,
I'm going to get it one hundred percent truth from
your heart. You know. It doesn't matter if I agree
all the time or not, but whether it's good, bad,
or ugly, you're going to give it to me, and.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'll receive it too. I will receive you. There are
things that I've been corrected on, and I love you,
myself and my community enough to say, hey, okay, because
sometimes when we ask a question, people think we're asking.
We are so toxic right now that when you ask
a question, people automatically assume you're asking just because you're
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trying to be messy, you know what I mean, not knowing.
I'm really asking because I'm trying to understand. I love
you enough to try to understand why you feel this way?
Why why? And I think a lot of us, you know,
we have we've been conditioned not to listen. Love means listening.
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We're just waiting for our turn to talk. We don't
want to come to an understanding. We just want to
be right. Love means I might not be right. Every
conversation that I start, I am okay with. If the
outcome is I'm not right, then I'm learning, you know
what I mean. So I don't think that people start
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conversations from that from that point, And I think that's
where loving yourself enough to want to grow any way
you can has to take place, has to come into play.
So it's just it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It is a lot. It is a lot. And you know,
it sounds like such a food food conversation to and
I thought about that when Annie told me, you know
what the show is about tonight with them, people can
think this is foodful, but really thinking about it, it's
where we have to bring discussion right now because of
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the opposite going on exactly. You know, just for the record,
the opposite of love is not hate, it's fear. So
when you see people in that angry mode, it's usually
fear based. All negative emotions are derived from fear. Yes,
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So if other people can understand that sometimes people are
not very kind because they are fearful, yes, because they
have been through hell and back themselves, and they don't
trust anybody. They're angry at everybody, They're angry at life.
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You know, others need to just understand that we are
all in the same boat together at the same time.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, yes, yeah, and that's that easy. Isn't easy. I
am exhausted spiritually, mentally, physically, and just exhausted because this
is hard, especially for some of us leos who have
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not always been operating out of love. I can admit
that I was not a person where my default operating
system was love. My default operating system was survival.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
However that looked like okay, and it was I'm coming
at you before you can come at me and hurt me.
You know what I mean. I know you're gonna hurt me.
I know you are, so let me let me get
mine in first. You know, like it's it. It is hard,
and a lot of us are operating from there, not
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even realizing it, not even realizing it. I have had people,
especially in this climate now, they assume they know what
I'm going to say before I even say it. They
assume they know how I feel about a certain situation
before even starting the conversation. So now instead of a
place of love, they're coming from a place of they
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have to defend their stanits with like a pitbull or
a bulldog or a chihuaha, because those little I digress.
But so they are coming at me like, you don't
even know what I'm gonna say. You don't even you're
not even giving me a chance. You know what I'm saying.
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You don't know what you think you know. And that's
not love for me, for yourself, for the world, nothing like.
It's not. Love is an action word. Love is a verb.
Love is not something that you just feel. Love is
something that you practice, and you practice it because it's hard.
(19:52):
You practice it because it's not it's not where we
usually come from. It's not especially nowadays, it's not where
we come from. So I just encourage people, especially right now.
Our words are very important. Our words, just our words
(20:16):
are the first thing people hear, first thing people see.
Take a minute, Take five seconds before you say anything,
before you answer a question, especially in the tough situations,
just hold off a second, don't react, don't just jump off.
It's not helping. Don't assume if you really care about healing,
(20:37):
raising vibrations because what we are supposed to be doing
right now, we're supposed to be creating micro movements, raising
vibrations in little pockets because all those little pockets can
come together and then we can start mass healing. I
know that sounds foo food and new age and things
(20:58):
like that, but it is what it is. That old
commercial and so on so on. So it's just like that.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, some good points, some very good points, you know,
And I can't help but think about the human reaction.
There's so much unkindness going on right now. I actually
dealt with some today just walking through Walmart parking lot.
I had this big black truck yell some things that
(21:32):
weren't very nice, and I wanted to turn around and
flip them off and you know, get it back to them.
And I took deep breath and I thought, I can't
respond to this with the same vibration that they are
putting it out, because that's holding that low vibration. So
(21:54):
I just smiled and tipped my head and continued walking.
You know, I'm thinking, so the love some them blessings,
I still want to flip them off.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Clipping them off, you're just telling them their number one
That's that's love. That's encouragement, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No? No, you know, I live in a small town
and then people, some people know, you know what I
stand for, and.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
So yeah, I've had that love. Yeah, not so long ago,
especially being a woman of color in a rural town.
And you know, I'm gonna have to send you love,
but not but because anything before the butt don't count,
I'm gonna send you love. I'm also I go to
(22:50):
the gas station and you know, lady just assumes I
don't live here, and you know, and it hurts, and
I'm like, wait a minute, well I've never seen you.
How do you know? You've never seen it? And then,
because I'm operating out of love, I am trying to
(23:11):
guide this conversation in a way where can you hear
what you're saying? Do you understand? Can you hear what
you're saying? And if so, I'm giving you every opportunity
to stop. You know, That's how I love because what
(23:32):
I wanted to do was something completely different, which we
won't describe right now, but yeah, you know, and then
we're end the conversation. I'm not yelling or screaming my
discomfort and my displeasure is known, but it's known with
(23:54):
a smile on my face, and then I move on,
you know. But that I have to go through that
a lot, you know, And it's it's hard to stay
in a in a mode of love when every place
you turn people are shooting daggers at you one way
(24:14):
or the other. You know, and everybody you know, certain
people they assume, you know, they believe the stereotype that
I'm automatically angry. No, I just have a loud mouth.
I'm not. Anybody who knows me knows anger is not
my first. My first thing is shenaniganst. You know that,
(24:40):
you know my first I operate out of shenaniganst inappropriateness.
That's that's not me, That's where I come from. It's
just hard, But I think that one of the ways,
and I really do mean this, one of the ways,
(25:00):
the best way that we operate out of love is
by surrounding ourselves with people who also operate from love,
because therein lies our strength. Because when I'm feeling low,
I can pull from you and vice versa. And when
we try to do this thing on our own, it's
(25:21):
just not the same. It's just not the same. So
I encourage everybody watching. If you do not have a
community or a few friends or whatever, either a start
your own be search out some around you your right now,
a lot of people are underground. We're some of the
(25:42):
few that we don't care. We're not going underground because
I love is too big to be buried. Okay, so
you know, but don't don't isolate yourself. Don't think that
you can do this by yourself. It's too toxic. We
have too many many people that are transitioning themselves away
(26:04):
from this plane because they think they can do it
on their own, and they're suffering in silence. And that's
not what we want. The world needs your voice. We
need your voice, We need your love. So seek us out,
seek someone out. Talk. Just don't try to do this
on your own. Love is knowing that sometimes we can't
(26:25):
do this by ourselves.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You know, very well said. And humans are not supposed
to We're not meant to be solitude. We're not meant
to be totally alone. We're supposed to gathering groups. You know,
you go all the way back in time, there's always
(26:50):
been tribes and in some sort of groups of people,
and there's a lot of power in that. It's like
when we get together and I want to bring up
the fact that Tom Owen is putting in the Saturday
Night Healing circle for Andrey and he has Andrea's angels
(27:12):
on Facebook. The most wonderful thing about doing things like
that is you can't put it out and not feel
it back. So when you're in a group of people,
even if you can't physically be together, but you're all
sending out that same vibration, that same love and healing,
(27:36):
it's felt, and that in itself is what can get
us through all of the negative that's going on. I
think it's going to, you know, over time here become
less and less and less because more of us are,
you know, stepping up and speaking out. Just like you said.
(27:57):
We need those voices, need that strength, We need the power.
You know, my camera is really dark tonight. I don't
know if anyone can see, but this is this is
my buddy right here, Kwan Yin. She always hangs with me.
Sometimes I hit her back a little bit, but can
you see her at all? Let us she's so gorgeous.
(28:20):
She's a basic is Look at her. You know, she
started something long ago. She's the Goddess of compassion and mercy,
and that is love. And you see somebody who you
(28:40):
don't agree with, but you know they're hurting, and you
know that for some reason they just can't grasp what
you're putting out there. Instead of being angry at them
and saying hurtful things, Christ sending you off, Christ saying
(29:02):
I understand, be compassionate.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Even when you're by yourself, when you think of them,
instead of having I'm the time, I'll be there. Like
I don't know how many people know, but I am
neu divergent. I have a brain that works differently than
other people. So I have full blown conversations in my
(29:28):
head sometimes, and you know, and they're real to me,
like as real as you are right there. So it's like,
instead of going over the last time you spoke to them,
and if I was here, I'd say this or whatever
and send them you know, I wish you well say
(29:50):
it out loud because your words have power. So if
you think of that person like you said that that
you know you disagree with, instead of holding on to
that lower vibrational feeling, raise it yourself. Even if they
don't know it. It's not for them it's for you,
(30:12):
you know what I'm saying. It's raising the vibration so
your vibration can stay up. Because what happens is when
that vibration lowers, if you have any health issues, it
makes them worse. If you have anything else going on,
it makes that worse. You know, So send them love,
wish them well. Sometimes love means loving people from a distance.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I was going to bring that up next. I'm you know,
and being wise enough and considerate enough to realize that
that is best. All the way around. There are people
and then you know, like you said, you know that
(30:59):
it's best to love them from a distance. I can
love people that I don't really agree with or you know,
you know there are people out there that mean now,
so well, it's okay to love them from a distance.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Because honestly, I'm gonna be very real with you. I'm
still on my journey. I'm not there yet, so I
need to love you from a distance because if we're
around each other, I don't know that I could love
you the way I need. And that's just me being
very real because that's part of love too, is realizing
where you yourself need to do a little work. So
(31:40):
that's my shadow work. It's trying to be consistent, you know,
trying to do those things. But I know there are
certain people and situations that in order for me to
still have high vibrational feelings towards you, we don't need
to be around each other all the time. When I
see you, it's cool. You know, we're all good. And
(32:02):
you know, if you ever need, if you really did,
really really down and you called, I'm there, you know
what I mean, Because I would do that for anybody,
So why would not do that for you? You know
what I mean? But we have to love people on
their level. We have to. We have to realize that.
And it's not And here's the thing. It's not somebody
(32:26):
being superior, because I hear that a lot. Oh you
just think you're better than people? No, No, far from it.
I have fallen way short. I'm not better, nor am
I worse than anybody else. I just know what I
have to work on where I am on my walk
and my journey. And for me, that means that I
(32:48):
have to love people, certain people from a distance. That
doesn't mean they're bad. That just means that we not
we all have radios, but we're not all listening to
the same state.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right, right, and yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. And
sometimes people, I mean, you can see animals, dogs are
all wonderful. I love dogs, I love all animals. But
every now and then two dogs will meet up and
fight like crazy. Humans are the same way. Sometime sometimes
(33:23):
our energy just does not mash. And I'm going to
go back several years, probably twenty years ago. I met
a person online. I actually was doing a ministry forum
that I built, and I met this person who was
also a minister, and we just hit it right off,
(33:46):
and we talked and talked and talked. We ended up
talking on the phone. We started doing healing groups, and
the healing that we would send out was just you know,
everybody would comment how oneonderful it was, how strong it was.
He was a yogi. He became a very very good friend.
(34:10):
Ended up coming up to where I live. He was
in Chicago at the time, and he came to spend time,
and when we would sit in healing mode, in our
spiritual mode, it was remarkable. I actually had someone pull
in my driveway and say, there was a glow coming
(34:33):
out at the top of your house. Wow, people in
my house would say, God, I don't know what's going on.
When you and Mark do that healing thing, it's like
everything lights up and it feels staticky. So it was
incredible our energy when it came to spiritual work and healing.
But if we hung out together, I wanted to punch
(34:57):
him in the face and him was saying for me.
You know, it was just we could not be third
dimensional together. Yeah, And once we realized that, we were
very cautious to you know, keep our time. We could
still talk together as friends online or on the phone.
(35:19):
Just don't put our energies together in the same building
unless we are higher vibrational and in the fourth or
fifth dimension, because we're going to hurt one another.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Okay, But that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Right, that's part of it, and that is just how
it goes. Some humans cannot You just can't mix those.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Energies and don't force it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
No gosh, no about it.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Thank you. That's love.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I can honestly tell you I love this person
with all that I am and I will always probably
many lifetimes. He is now on the other side, but
we still communicate often and we still do healing work together.
Rarely do I do any sessions without him.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
That's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
But I think next to me, I'm going to punch him.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think that if more people were honest with themselves,
and really, the thing is that we seek, whether we
want to admit it or not, we seek acceptance and validation.
And sometimes the things that are honest are not necessarily
(36:47):
socially accepted or the the you know what, people think
that we should do, so we kind of conform instead
of being honest. One of the ways I see this
a lot is in relationships. I talk to a lot
of people, and if they were just honest with each
(37:09):
other in the beginning or whatever about what their needs
are and what they wanted, you know, then a lot
of the things that they go through wouldn't be there
because it's just you're trying to force things that don't fit,
and that never works. That's the same for relationships, churches, jobs.
(37:37):
Like I tried to fit into a size tengene and
it just didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Not for a very long time. I might do it
just for the fun of it, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I just feel like I feel like I am overall
just so much better physically, mentally, spiritually, operating from a
place of love first, and that is what I want
for everyone. And I get that, well, how can I
(38:18):
love especially there's a group of people that operate a
certain way and you go, well, how can I love them?
It's not about loving them per se, It's about just
operating out of love first. You know, nobody is saying
that you have to coddle and be whatever. That's not
(38:41):
what love is. Love is truth, love is you know.
I know a lot of people you know, and I
don't care what faith you are, but a lot of
people like to when they talk about love, they want
to talk about Jesus and they want to talk talk
about how Jesus behaved and how meek he was. And
(39:04):
then I asked them, I'm like, what book you read?
Because the Jesus had I read about had an attitude. Okay,
he was turning over tables, you know. He was like,
how you're gonna be mad at somebody, how you're gonna
see past talk about a splinter when you got a
whole two by four in your eye? You know what
I mean? Like, I don't know who you were talking about.
(39:25):
That's not what love is. Understanding what love is, and
if you don't really know, then look in the different
you know, practices about Go look what the Eastern faiths
say about love. Go look at what Buddhism and the Eaching,
Go look at what Islam says about You have to
(39:46):
be just be knowledgeable about what love really is, you know,
because it's not this weak. It doesn't make you weak.
Love makes you stronger, you know, and then love makes
you stronger together.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Right, yeah, it's you know, it's a little useless if
you don't share it, come on ascept it. And I
think that the very first person that we have to
love is ourselves, and that's the hardest. But you know,
thinking about Buddha and Jesus, they were like the ones
(40:22):
who taught us, taught people their followers, not that you know,
not that either of them one to be a deity,
but they taught people number one, do no harm, but
take no shit.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
COmON no.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Maybe not those words, but that's what they taught really
very well could have been. But yes, loving ourselves is
very difficult. But if we don't, you know, we have
to realize that we are a part of everything else.
Even those people that we don't agree with are a
(40:59):
part the same thing. We're a part of. We come
from the same place. Like you said, you know, we
all put our pants on the same way. We all
need water, we all need food, and we all need loves.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That's right. And when you talk about loving yourself people,
how do I do that? Yeah, first and foremost, speak
life to yourself. No one. We were having a conversation
the other day when we were sitting together and we
were talking, and the first one of the things we
(41:35):
were talking about is no one can talk bad to
you and make you feel bad like you. We say
some of the most horrific things to ourselves. So what
I would like anyone listening to this, no matter when
you listen to it, I would like you to be
(41:57):
very mindful of what you're inward thoughts are what you
think about yourself, what you say to yourself. And if
you need a little exercise, my dad, who was a pastor,
always used to give us this exercise for twenty four hours.
Pretend that every single thing you say comes to pass
(42:19):
literally and exactly. So you make me sick, you know,
I hate you know, blah blah blah blah blah. Just
be really mindful of what you say. Because one of
the things the kids were saying that I had to like,
I don't allow in my house. I'm dead. Ooh, I'm dead,
(42:39):
like ooh, stop that, stopping not that, because even though
you don't mean it, and the way it is, if
you say it over and over and over and over again,
you know the whole Oh I just can't do that.
Oh but I just and it just comes out of
your mouth so quickly. You talk so bad.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
If you treated your spouse the way you treated yourself,
y'all be divorced. If you treated your best friend the
way you treated yourself, you wouldn't have a best friend.
And the bad part about it is you talk to
your friends and you speak life unto them, You encourage them,
(43:19):
you want the best for them, and then you get
by yourself.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
And you talk to yourself like you you don't even
want to be with you no more, but you can't escape,
so you might as well want to be with you.
Who else gonna be with you if you ain't gonna
be with you? You know what I'm saying, Like, come on,
so please, my loves. If you don't get anything else
from this conversation, tonight, be easy on yourself. Speak life
unto yourself. Get affirmations, if that's something that you need
(43:47):
to do. When you get up in the morning, I
want you to get up and look in the mirror
and say, hey, Saxy, Yes, I love all this weight,
I love all this fluff. You see the people I've
been to you. It's about this big forehead my whole life,
and it is fabulous because it holds the knowledge of
my answer.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Does you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I have big feet my whole life, but those big
feet helped me walk through this world and change people.
That's what you have to do. That's what we want
for you. That's where the love starts. It starts with you.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yep, put it out if we're not putting it in.
That is so, so so true. And it's funny that
you brought up our conversation from the other night because
I'm sitting here thinking, oh yeah, that conversation, and it
actually started with me saying I busted myself, that's right,
telling myself I didn't deserve something, and it dawned on
(44:49):
me that I had manifested something myself. Now, y'all know
I'm very spiritual, I'm old. I should have gotten it
by now. But I want you to all know none
of us are perfect. And you know, this whole soul
school is life and we're always learning. It's never too late.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
So when we leave this world, we're still going to
have stuff left to learn.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh we never come back absolutely, so yeah, I mean
it's okay, and it's It was good for me to
realize that I had manifested that myself and I did
give myself a little bit of a spanking. I probably
liked it, but just me, but I did, you know,
(45:39):
I had to talk with myself about it. But realizing
it made a difference.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
That's right. Because once you put some once you put
a word to something, once you name something, you can
speak to it. You can move on it, right, you
can change it.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, So try to notice when when you're not quite
so nice to yourself. You know, self criticism can be
helpful if it's constructing the healthy way, constructive, But to
tell yourself it's because I never deserved it anyway, And.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Stop listening to what you've heard over the years, right,
Stop allowing other people to speak your identity to you.
Stop giving your power away to other people. It's not
nobody has a heaven or hell to put you in
point blank and period likes nobody has that. Don't allow
people and what they feel about you to become your identity.
(46:42):
You are in control of your identity. You are in
control of who you present to the world, who you're
going to be, and what you go out here and do.
That's where the love comes from. Love yourself enough to
know that you are a rock star. Love yourself enough
to realize that you are somebody's ancestor. You get that
(47:03):
you are, you are an ancestor.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I am a me too.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I will be fifty three into me.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's coming up soon, yes, right.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I'm like, I'm my mama's age. Like when I think
back to when I was a teenager, you know, when
you think about your your growing up and stuff, and
I look at the times of my life, I'm like,
am my mama's age. I'm somebody's mama.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Right right, you know. And you know I've got several
grands and a couple of great grands, so I get it.
I do want to stop for a moment in case
there are people here that we're not here in the beginning,
to let you know that Annie is not here because
she's under the weather tonight and asked me to fill
(47:56):
in for her and know I can't fill her shoes,
but hopefully I feel her hurt. So everybody please send
love and healing in prayers Annie's way. Let's wrap her
in a nice blanket of angel wings and and just
love on her. She needs that right now.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
She loves on all of us. That's the least we
can do.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yause she does. She gives love so freely that you know,
there's been times I've actually worried about her. You know,
be cautious. We do have to use caution, so o
Kate sometimes to love people and know that you need
to not get scammed by them because excuse me, that
(48:43):
happens too. My sentences have been horrid.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, mute for a second, clock, but it is okay.
But we do want to send our love to Annie.
We want to encourage you. One of the things we
were talking about is Unity Tree Interfaith Ministries. We are
going to start doing some things online. So if you
are on Facebook, please go to Unity Tree Interfaith Ministries,
(49:12):
follow us and all of us. Annie is a excuse me,
Annie is a founder along with all of us, and
we are going to because earlier we were talking about
how we need to spread this love between everybody and
one of the things we were meeting in person and
I don't know if that was going to talk about this.
I'm sorry if I'm stepping on anything, but we are
(49:38):
going to start doing things online because so many people
want to be a part of it, but they're not
here locally. So we have been meeting locally, but we
have been led to do more things digitally, so more
of you could be a part of it. Because I've
gotten messages, debs, gotten messages. So this is something that
(49:58):
Source wants us to do. So I encourage you to
go to Unity Tree inter Faith Ministries on Facebook and
just hit follow and that way, you know, when we
are getting ready to do our lives or lessons that
we put out whatever Source tells us to do. And
I'm sorry it's not as structured as some things are,
(50:20):
but right now we just want to hear what Sort
wants us to do.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
So that I think that you know, that's one of
the things I love about our group is we are
all you know, we speak, we get downloads, it comes out.
Sometimes we have no idea. A lot of times we
don't even plan what we're now there. Well, okay, so
(50:45):
we're like down to four minutes. But you know, we're
led by spirit, we're led by the galactic family, we're
led by Source. We are lud and we are a
voice and we're not afraid to use it. So that's
what the ministry is all about, is just being there,
(51:07):
being that voice through whatever is needed and helping out.
Speaking of helping out, I mentioned earlier about Tom Owens
having the group Andrey's Angels on Facebook. Every Saturday night
at eight pm. We all send a lot of love
and healing to Andrey at eight o'clock, you know, the
(51:28):
same time. So it's a collective. You know, you always
hear about that power of prayer. That's exactly what this is.
It's so so that even sending the energy, I'm just
getting all kinds of energy and love back. And so
when we heal others, we're healing the whole. We're healing us.
(51:52):
And you know that is so important because that is
sharing that love and spreading it. Yes, so the healing
goes way way beyond yes, what we You know, I
always have a little group of people that I send
to every single night, but I always ask Spirit to
(52:16):
send to whoever needs it to send it to mother
Earth to send it to the universe and just keep
it going. So we're like about out of time here,
but Jamila, thank you, thanks, thank you. It's been so
nice to talk to you. I mean, we don't love
(52:37):
our part of our great friends, so you know, I'm
blessed to be able to do it a little more
often than some people. But this has been and I
thank you and I love you, and.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Whoever's listening, I thank you guys, and know that you're
awesome to and just start loving on yourself. I just
need you to do that. I need that for you,
that you are worthy of all the love. You are
worthy to be the rock star that you are. And
I just remember the same energy I say it over
(53:09):
and over again, but the same energy that created the
universe is in you. You are powerful and whatever it
is you're going through right now, you're gonna make it
through it and then you're gonna help somebody else after. Okay,
So just know that you two did.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
I will thank you. Thank you for sharing us with
me on a daily basis. I love you, and we
love everybody out there. And remember Andrea's words, be the
light that you sink. Good night, everybody. We love you all,
take care. Spread the love
Speaker 3 (54:02):
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