June 27, 2025 • 55 mins
We're all finding our way in the dark. Erin and Carrie bring torches, lanterns and a variety of scented candles to light the way with their rather lighthearted approach to adversity in a complicated world. Join us for some uplifting fun!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bosh boom boom.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It is there.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It is a world awakening, and I have got two
of the most fearless, fierce goddesses that I could ever
have on the show. Aaron Bush Carrie Hopper. Welcome to
a world awakening. Let's set this party on fire.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Let's do it. I'm here for it. I mean, Erin
is for me. Erin. You are an inspiration to me.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You are and I can't tell you that often enough,
but you were. You've found the wherewithal within yourself to
you know, people go to psychiatrists, and the psychiatrists will
try to rip the plant out of the planter to
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look at all of the roots of the problem. Right, Okay,
Aaron ripped the plant out of the planter. I threw
it in the back of a Subaru and drove it
to Maine from Florida residence in like the snow belt,
the frozen tundra. Yea, and.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Reinvented herself in a year.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I know, I'm I it sounds so much cooler than
it is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah. No, I know how much work it was, and
I know and I know all of it. I get it.
I've done it. I've done it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I've you know, moved twelve hundred miles in a U
haul all by myself with a dog and a cat
in the front, keeping company through the tolls.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And your life right, why not?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You know? And I have.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I've reinvented myself over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And I think that to live true to yourself, you
have to live fearlessly.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, you can't, because how many times has each one
of us ever been belittled or ridiculed, or kicked to
the side, or had dispersions cast upon us? For you know,
very often no reason, sometimes with reason, and we have
to rise above that and learn our lessons the hard way,
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which is what humanity seems to have to do, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then and then just move on.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But you know, both of you, I mean, Carrie, when
I first met you in person, I was just blown
away by your energy and I know that Aaron was
as well, and we became fast friends.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You guys do a wonderful show on Thursday nights. Thursday nights, Yes, all, Well,
that was weird, a metaphysical comedy of errors with Carrie
and Erin and it's hysterical and you make people laugh
till they cry, and you and you bring forth this
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deluge of human emotion because they can relate because they
get it because, as you know, they're sitting there staring
at a computer screen, or they've moved us on YouTube
because it's all magical and shit over onto their TV,
and you know, just sit there and get absorbed into
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what you're doing. What we are doing. What we are
doing is raising the vibration. That's what all of Soul
School was for the first hour. And then everybody ran
because we talked a lot about food, and everybody ran
to the kitchen to get whatever that they had in
the kitchen. It was really yummy to come back to
(04:58):
watch a world awakening. Yeah, so what inspired you to
concoct this crazy show that touches on all things but
really stems from our connection with the supernatural, with what
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is paranormal and in otherwise quote unquote normal world, which sucks.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Okay, right, you want to take that one.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Well, So Aaron and I had kind of always talked about,
especially when our abilities really started coming to the forefront.
We had always talked about how we just kind of
stumbled through it and just kind of had to try
to like figure it out. We're fortunate Aaron and I
are fortunate enough to have people like you to lean
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on and people like my friend's Chris and Adra to
lean on to kind of just be like how do
I do this?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Where do I start?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
But not everybody has that support network that Aaron and
I have.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So we were.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Like, maybe we want to create a Facebook group where
people can just like ask questions or talk about you know,
this is what it's like for me, what was it
like for you? And but we were so busy with
all these other things in our lives that we were like, well,
now it's not the time. I mean, Ken had approached
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us and said that he wanted to he had a
spot every other Thursday, and did Aaron and I want
to do a show together?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And that was the sign. That was a sign that
we needed, yeah, to.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Finally have this community of people that we'd always wanted
to have.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So that's that's how it got started.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And when you have abilities that are coming out and
you're getting new ones joining them, just getting new abilities
all the time, and you're kind of like, oh, is
that that's what we're doing now?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, well.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Well that was weird, like and that's constantly with Aaron
and I were saying to each other like, well and
then all of a sudden I touched this thing and
I got this flash, and I was like, well that
was weird. So that's kind of where the that's I'm
not kind of where that is where that came from.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think we wanted, you know, when we were in
when we were all together in North Carolina a few
years ago, did I do your third eye for you?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yes, you did, like usual, your fault the mojo whammy mommy.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Is what I have called it. But I tell everybody
I can't undo it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, that's we have forthright, and you know, very straightforward
in terms of I do not know how to undo
whatever it is that I'm doing and I'm not the
one doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
They are comes through and then yep, and it is.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I mean, how many times, Aaron, have you seen me
have to stabilize a human being an old them in
place because they were going over because they were suddenly
not you know, connected until you go out.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, people turn into rubber chickens sometimes when we need Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Quite an experience.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And that's what we tell you because I'm very proud
Andrew that you did that for me. I'm very proud
and very honored because I wouldn't want you to undo
it even.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
If you could.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I love the gifts that I've been given, and if
I get more, I will love those as well. And
that's what a lot of people because you're pretty well
known for being able to do that, for having this
ability to open up somebody's third eye. So I think
a lot of people have this misconception that it's the same.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Ex thing for everybody. No, it's not, and it's not.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
It's very different and you don't actually know what the
person is going to experience.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You're opening up their third eye.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
And however, yeah, like and it may be something huge
and tremendous like it was with me, where you pretty
much just blew the cage wide open, or it might
just be, you know, somebody learns how to raise their
shield so that they can, you know, feel the higher
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vibrations that people are sending to them.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But it's different for everybody.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
And I think that people get so excited when they
talk to folks that you have done that for that
they're like, I want to do the same thing, almost
like they're thinking, you gave me the abilities that I have,
or no, they will.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Give it to them too. Yeah, I gave you the key. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And that's what Erin and Arrow is saying, is like, Okay,
everybody says, it's really cool to have these abilities, and
you wish you had it, but be careful what you
wish for.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Surely you will get it. You're going to meet somebody.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
When I met Erin in Saint Augustine, I knew immediately instantaneously.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I looked in that woman's eyes and I said.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh, you're actorian and she says, yeah, I've been told
that before.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That was it. That was it. You might have you know,
might as well have just stitched us together at the hip,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And it's and I have so many people in my life,
but I have a close knit family that I you know,
Jeff and Lynn Bowling like my family, and you know,
Amy and Sean Moore are my family. And Aaron Bush
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and Carrie Hopper and debdah Ruth and Tom Owen and
you know, I mean, and some people, I mean, I
haven't even known for a year, Mike. You know, I've
only known Nicky Thompson for about maybe six seven years.
But I would I would stop a train, you know,
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to protect him, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I mean, there's there's so.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Many people that we have in our life, but really
it's a small circle. You know, Oh, Erin, I've got
my circle the wagon thing like written for you to
put on the.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Me.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yes, I will, but uh, you know, you can read
people by their vibration. And the thing, you know, what
I needed from Erin more than anything in the world
was I needed her cheerful disposition to live up because
when we met, I was already walking around with this
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dread disease in me. I just didn't know it yet,
and I was fighting every day, fighting, you know, thinking
I'm blaming it on on COVID, blaming.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It on you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I'm just working too many hours, traveling too many trips,
taking you know, too many chances out in the real world,
and not doing what I needed to.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do to rest and take care of myself, and then.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Chastising myself whenever I rested or and you know, point
blank first how that is with me, And I had
to forgive myself and understand that the rest is part
of healing. That that is, you know, something that I
have to do for myself. And it also opens us
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up to the to our galactic family. It opens us
up to the light beings who are trying.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
To help us.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And if we don't get still, and we don't get
quiet every now and then and listen, then we're missing
the whole point. Human beings don't feel like they're they're
worthy unless they're constantly working, constantly active, constantly accomplishing, constantly producing, constantly,
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constantly constantly on the move.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, of taking the time to be on the mend.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, that's that's been something I've been living well since
my job at Sunday River was up. When the season ended,
It's very hard to get used to just sort of
being okay, but then it's like, okay, it's been a
crazy two years. You know, we're feeling good about it,
but the body's still exhausted, souls still tired that you
have to kind of take that, yeah, take that time.
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And I think you know, that was one of the
other reasons we wanted to do the show is because
I think a lot of times when we say this
often that you know, metaphysical life, spiritual life, you know, paranormal,
a lot of it is fluff, and you know, everything
is unicorn farts and sunshine, rainbows, and we want and
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that's great. Like I'm not knocking that position at all,
because you know, there is a lot of that, but
I think we wanted to bring the balance and the
other end of it. Like we present it as a
train wreck, and we are and that's fine, but I mean,
I mean that's the reality of what it is. I mean,
I'm a mess, She's a mess together, it's just a
whole disaster.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But for whatever reason, that seems to go over well.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
But I think it's because we're trying to present a
realistic way of what this really looks like instead of
it being all done up and filters and you know,
very expensive leggings and like, I'd rather be honest and
if I look like I'm roade hard and hung up
wet as we say in the South, and so be it.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Like that's the reality of what life is.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But there's there seems to be a lack of.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
That to Cody, and he was like, what, I'm like,
this is slide.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
But we wanted to present the reality, like of what
it looked like for us because because, like Carry said,
we we have built an amazing network of people and
that know a lot more than us, so we do
have that access.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I mean, I can call you called zafase I can
you know all.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
These amazing people that have so much time in the field,
whether it be paranormal or metaphysical. Like, we've built this
amazing community of people, but like Harry said, not everybody
has that. So if we're able to present it but
in a way that is true to us, which is
shit show, then people tend to resonate with it because
then it's real, Like we're not trying to say, oh,
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if you do X, Y and.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Z, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
No, there's a lot of rocking in the corner and
crying and what the hell is wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And have I lost my mind?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And we'd rather just present it the way it's sort
of presented for us. And I think that community that
we found it's great because in the chat, like we
always love watching everybody talking just like they do here.
It's a lot of the same people.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
All these I know we do.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We share a lot of the same people, which to
me is like a validation, you know, I mean this
is our tribe.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, they've got the vibe, they know what we're talking about.
They feel us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, we when when we connect with them, even in cyberspace,
which is actually a pretty comfy place, you know, if
you admit it, you know, we can we can do
what we do in our jammys if we want to,
and and so can they.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And that's what's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And it's the acknowledgment that we are normal people that
have had paranormal experiences, that we are natural in our environment,
but we sometimes have supernatural experiences.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That blow us away.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You know, so when you share it, and your viewers,
your participants in what you do, feel that and might
be sitting there going, oh my god. You know something
like that happened to me when I was a kid,
Oh my god, and it just triggered that memory. Just
from having conversation, like just open conversation and with the
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admission that none of us understand exactly what's happening. We
know that there is another realm. We know that because
we've experienced it, and we've been graced to experience it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's not a curse.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's a blessing to have to be touched by spirit,
you know, for that moment that just even if it's
a fraction of a second, to know that what you
just saw, what you just felt what you just heard.
You know, somebody just called your name and it was audible. Oh,
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now do I recognize that voice?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You know? I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It is you erin with two fingers and your back
and you knew and you called me, and I knew.
I knew that an attachment had formed.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Well, your mother, who I hadn't even told anybody yet,
sits up in bed.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Oh, Aaron brought a friend back.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
For the farm call it to tell you that it
had morphed into an attachment. And then I was like,
a shit, if Miss Carolyn's already figured it out, I mean,
I need to.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Make some calls on Monday.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. Right, But I think.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's kind of the other thing, like I'm not afraid
to admit, Like when we've talked about that whole situation
last week, of the biggest things about this journey is
knowing we don't know everything. Like we're always going to
be students.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Of this field.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
There's always something new to learn, and you have to
be comfortable when you're out of your element and you're
not not in trouble, but you're having issues, then you've
got to be willing to go and tap into those
friends and those people that know a lot more than
you do.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Listen to what they say, take that advice.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
And I think one of the other things I love
about our show is all the stuff that we talk about.
We try to make the things we discuss things people
can try at home.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
A lot of these.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Tools and spiritual you know, crystals and all like, so
much of this stuff is really expensive, and you feel
like buy all the newest, fanciest things to kind of
start this journeys trying to get things that they can
do at home, and most of the time it's with
stuff they've already got.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know, well, I'll tell you know, I'll tell our
viewers tonight what I told you what I told Carrie you.
You are your very very best piece of equipment. You
your sensory perceptions. And when you're using your five senses
to their fullest, and you have an open heart and
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your soul is ready to receive information, then here it comes.
You can't stop it, and you can ignore it. You
can turn you back on it. If it scares you
a little bit, you can it's agin na, But eventually
you know whether it's in the back or on the shoulder,
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it's going to let you know, hey, I'm still here,
and I know you know I'm still here. You don't
have to acknowledge it if you don't want to, but
I am here. Yeah, you know, it's it's to me.
It's a wonderful thing to me. It's what washes away
any fear I might have around a dread disease, like
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any fear.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, no, I have to agree with that as well.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I know that, And you know I'm first of all,
I feel way too alive to die. I like way
too alive and in fact, in some ways, and you
might both understand this or not, but in some ways,
you know, being given a death sentence brought me back
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to life. It did and made me cherish every moment,
every experience, even you know, embrace my naps as healing
and divine and lovely.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's brought me deeper.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I've always been a deeply faithful, spiritual person, but
nothing like where I am now. Yeah, you know, because
I've had some life altering healing experiences through this, which
I would not have required if I didn't have the disease.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That makes any sense, it absolutely does.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
It can't help but change your outlook on things when
somebody gives you that kind of.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Diagnosis that.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Unless you simply just don't care about life or living
or anything, you are going to stop and take stock.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So, knowing what it's like in the light, knowing having
that connection, I'm not surprised that it doesn't. You have
no fear of it because we live in it so
much of our lives. Yeah that My best friend of
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forty years, her mother died of breast cancer a year
and a half ago, and Jennifer I talk about her
all the time. She knows about my abilities. She was
one of the ones that were.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Like, I'm here for you. It's going to be okay,
You're not going crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
But there are times where because I know what life
is like in the light, because I talk to people
in it, my own family and loved ones of you know, others,
sometimes I just wish that I could give her my
gift so that she could see what life is like
in the light, where her mom is, where her grandmother is,
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where her cousin is. I wish that there was a
way I could better describe what that's like so that
the ones that are left behind feel a little bit
of comfort, Because a lot of people are like, I
don't what is heaven like I don't know, or if
they don't even believe in it, like.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Where did they go? What is happening? On death?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It changes your whole perception on.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, on death, it does, it does.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
I don't have a fear of it either, and I
don't even have a I haven't even been given that
kind of diagnosis that you have.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Andrea, No, well, I didn't believe it. I refused. I
am defiant in the face of this. I am a
bitch from hell in the face of this.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What's my mantra, Aaron, what's my daily mind?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Get out of my fat fluffy temple right now? I
think I missed a word.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, fuck, you miss the word fuck.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Get the fuck out of my big, fat fluffy temple now.
And then I expanded it over time. Oh did you
have a bitch? Go back and live with your father
the devil.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So it's it's, you know, depending on.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Like how much coffee I've had sometimes, so I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We need to make sure there And there's one long
sentence on the front of her shirt. Somebody will make
it for me.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, somebody hashtag hashtag yeah yeah, and the other one
we are here. I mean, neither one of you are
naive enough to think that you just stumbled upon your
abilities at this particular point in your particular life. Right,
you know, there's no such thing as coincidence. What whatever
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you come into this world with, you were.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Born with, you brought with it. It was up to
you to discover it.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And you know, I'm I am humbled truly by the
fact that I helped Aaron discover what is her essence
because she did a lot of suppressing of the essence,
because it was just a little like like you know, hard,
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it's hard. It's nothing easy about it. Is that Bernie
in the back.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Bang around a bone down here. At least he's not
squeaking tonight. But so we got plenty of time for that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I saw black on black movement over there, right corner. Yeah,
that's burnmeister. I love him.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I had a four mile walk today, so he should
be asleep, but he's not.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
So that's but.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, I think you you know, you get to the
point with the stuff where like in the face of
your diagnosis and the face of the chaos Carrie's had,
and the face of the chaos I've had, and the
you know, everybody's got their own shit that they're going through,
but they have a choice in your perspective on any
situation that you're in. And I've said this before and
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I think you can all.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Agree with that.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Like, do I have every right to potentially be bitter
and pissed off about the last two years?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Do?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But what point everything that's happened in the last two
years has brought me right here? So I could choose
to focus on, you know, the end of my marriage,
and you know, the loss of my job at the farm,
or you know, the death of your mom, the death
of like take your pick of any of the things
that have.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Gone on in the last two years.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
But I made the decision because I've learned so much
from the people on the screen and all these other
people in my life, and I've done a lot of
work to be able to look at it and be like, Okay,
there's no plan. That's okay, because I len for sure
that the universe has always got a bigger, better plan.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I just have to trust it.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
And I also understand that a lot of those things
fall by the wayside because they were no longer.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Working, they no longer served.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
You, They don't, so it's you know, but that's all perspective,
and that's a choice that each individual has to make,
and it's not an easy choice.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
To make, No, it's very difficult.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
A lot of people would rather stay stuck in the
quadmire because change is scary.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Right, change is scary, and compliance are easier than going
forward hopefully and fearlessly.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's easier. In the same way as all three of
us have.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Talked about why it seems like so much of the
world has gotten cold as stone, and the reason that
it seems that way is because it has because empathy hurts.
It hurts when you even momentarily put yourself in an
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absolutely untenable situation that is happening to someone else, and
even for a moment, feel how scared they are, feel
how much they are suffering, feel how hurt and deeply
scarred they are by what they're experiencing. When you put
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yourself in their shoes, even for a brief amount of time,
and then extricate yourself from it, you still feel that pain.
And so what we have to do is not discount
and discard empathy. I think it's one of the greatest
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human emotions, one of our greatest qualities.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But we have to.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Learn not to let it consume us, not to let
us become the trauma. You know. It's it's yes, it's very,
very difficult when you are an EmPATH. I mean if
my sister gets a hangnail and starts swearing and looking
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for the file and just having a fit in the
kitchen while I'm making her a cup of coffee and
she bought her fingernail letting the cat out the back door,
and she tore her nail off, and oh my god,
it's the end of the world as we know it.
I absorbed that SpongeBob has nothing on it. Then she'll
(29:36):
walk up to me and, you know, with her booboo
finger and.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Look at me and say, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I'll say, no, I just absorbed this fit that
just through for thirty seconds, and it just now I'm mad,
you know, And now I don't even know how to
deal with this.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What do I do with this?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah? And she's like, she's like, I'll just go out
and feed the chickens, you know, freeloading chickens that have
moved into our yard, you know, by the doesn't I'll
just go feed the chickens.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You'll feel better now we are absorbent. Empathy is painful.
It's hard, it.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Is, and you can either choose that path or you
can let yourself go dark and hard and not feel
anything for anyone because that way you don't get hurt.
And me it might be the easier path, but it's
(30:43):
not the brave one.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
No, no, it's a very lonely path.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
At the end of the day, requires courage to live
this life. Nobody's promised us this.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We're going to be easy. Nobody did exactly and exactly
for the week.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Take this kind of stuff takes a lot of self
introspection and a lot of.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Pulling out the worst parts of yourself and having to.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Make peace with those in order to because again it's
all balanced, right, you can't have light without dark.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You have to learn all you have to learn to
love all the parts of yourself in order to become
more whole.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, even the bad things.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
And one of my favorite lines ever is in Pretty
Woman where he's talking to her and telling her she's
amazing and wonderful, and she's like, the bad stuff is
easier to believe, Yeah, because it is, well, okay, look
at it. Where did it come from? How did why
do you? How do you use that bad stuff? How
do you do you push it away? Do you try
(31:43):
to just if you take a really raw look at yourself.
That's hard to do because nobody wants to address the
worst parts about them that maybe other people see and
think that those are the bad parts of them too.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Nobody wants to do that.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
But if you really want to, I don't really want
to say live an authentic life, but just kind of
like own who you are.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Start there.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
We've all at some point, and I've said this on
our show, we all at some point have been toxic
as fuck to someone else. We are a villain in
someone else's story, and that's probably a rightly earned title.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But you know, are we really going to come.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Out and be like, no, no, he lies and he
made it up and I didn't go crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You know what.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
My ex fiance would probably be like that bitch is crazy.
You know why, because I was at times, I know
him crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
It was not great. We just got to admit it, yeah, admitute.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
You don't have to like well, you know, the thing
is that that we all walk with our shadow, all
do if there is.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Light, then our shadow is right there with us.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And you know, Jeff and I, Jeff Turner and I
on Soul School, have addressed this many times, and you
know it's what we really have to do, I think,
is learn to just.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Put our arm around it.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
And and you know that is part of us. You
know that we live in a three dimensional world, in
a multi dimensional universe, and in the world that we
live in, as narrow and as oppressive and as burdensome
(33:40):
as it can be. You know, it's duality, and one
cannot exist without the other.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
There is no one who has ever.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Walked this earth that is pure, absolutely completely pure.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I've seen examples.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Where I've met people that are really close to that,
but even they will say, oh no, no, you know
I could, like I said tonight, I can be a
bitch from help and where I focus that negative energy
(34:21):
that is in me is against a disease.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
And then not believing if I were told by.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
My doctor that what I was told that my particular
infirmity is incurable and inoperable. If I had believed that,
I would probably be gone already, because that's how advanced
it was. Yeah, and now they're having trouble finding it
(34:56):
I'm going for a pet scan next week next week two,
uh yeah, the seventh, I think, And man, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I can't wait to talk to.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
The staff and the people that are reading the machine.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And I'm in.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
A in this like thing that looks like I'm on
a spaceship.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
My cat?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, yes, could I bring my cat like?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Look? I think she ate an earring. You know, you's got.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
To think about it this way, and we've talked about
this at length. I mean, what you've been going through
is such a testament too, because obviously you've got modern
medicine that you're using healthcare system. But then the other
end of it is the energetic.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Side of it. And can we talk about empathy and
people's lack of it in this world.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
The one thing that that empathy and what you dealing
with having comment is that everybody is energetically connected, and
people forget that.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
But on the positive collection.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
What you've been going through and how you've been handling it,
healing so quickly like kicking this thing's ass, is also
a true testament to the energetic connections that you have
with other people, whether it's a healer or a you know,
a friend or whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It looks like thousands and thousands and people have prayed
for me exactly, and so humble, so grateful, so deep grateful.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
But it's your perspective knowing that there's more out there
which takes the fear of death out. But then also
the knowing full well what you'll be getting from other
people energetically, from the galactic's spirit, whatever it is, you're
just like, give it all to me, I don't care.
I'll take it, yea, and fully embracing that. So you
didn't have, like I think you and I talked about,
(36:58):
where there wasn't there's never been fear for you. Where
I think where it gets hard for people is And
of course that kind of diagnosis, if you don't have
the background that you've got in metaphysical, spiritual paranorm all
that stuff, fear is an easy one to slide into,
and once starts manifesting, then that changes the frequency of
the energy you're putting out. So again it's a cognitive
(37:21):
decision that you were basically like not today, Satan, and
you know, stayed on that high vibrational level and then
you just took everybody along with you. So it's been
such an and if you don't write it why you know,
you know how I feel about you writing a book
about this whole experience, because it is a testament to
what the connectedness of all of us can do with
(37:43):
a singular intention. I mean, how many events did you
go to or not even ones you went to, but
the ones you went to, and then other ones you
weren't even at.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Where people were doing prayer circles for you, And you know,
like it's it's a singular intent.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
It's all high vibrational, and it's thousands of people from
all over the world, and that that says something.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, it really does. It's tremendous.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
And to be able to feel to be a part
of it and feel the collective energy for you remarkable, Agree, remarkable.
I wish, yeah, I wish that that. Like Karin said,
not everybody has that, but I think that a lot
(38:27):
of people will put stuff on Facebook like, oh, you
know where I'm having family problems, please please pray. That's
a lot of people get annoyed when they see posts
like that. They're like, they're vague booking, we don't know
what's going on, blah blah. Well you know what doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Just right, the energy.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think more people should
do that because there are so many of us, the
three of us, everyone watching all everybody that we know
in our beautiful little weird tribe will send that.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Energy to them.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yes, but most people are like, I don't scroll, They
just want attention.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's right, and it's that vibration that we need to avoid,
like the black plague of Europe right for sure, that you.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Because if somebody had, if somebody found the courage to
open up their phone in a moment of desperation and
reach out to some friends, yes, but maybe a lot
of strangers too, and found the courage to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Honor it.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Honor it, you low life scum sucking son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Honor it shot up. It literally costs you nothing, nothing, nothing,
you behind. No, It's That's why I don't want to
hear about it.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It's about the other person.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's not about you.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Them who gets us that it's their business and if
you know that's what they need energetically, you send up
what you got and and hope that it helps.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
And then you know, but it's not about you. At
the end of the day, it's about other people.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
And if they're not going into detail about why they're
asking for prayers or energy, so what so what it's
not Yeah, it's not of our business when.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
You do energy, like when I do energy work, and Carrie,
you can probably relate to this on the cash the
cashing side of things, where I don't need.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
To know, like I don't.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
I mean, like in a copy you may be asking
a question, but you can read the records regardless, right,
it doesn't you know, you get your permission.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Doesn't matter. So like with the energy work that I do,
you don't have to tell me anything.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
I'm just the copper tube that the energy goes through
and comes out, and that energy is intelligent and it does.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Exactly what to go and what to do.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And I do little, you.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Know, directional stuff with symbols, but it's not my energy
I'm working with, and it's it's a very easy way
to just help someone by whether you're praying or you're
using energy, you're using the universe, whatever it is for you,
it's all the same intention.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, And it's exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Turn your volume down just a little because we're getting
suddenly we're getting du.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
That.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yes, the echo, Yeah, I got rid of the echo.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I don't know how this thing works, No know, just
that works.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I did not get a n app today, so that
I'm still conscious is really a testament to my personal strength.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh my, I.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Don't know how you do it, Andrew. I really don't,
because I took a three hour nap. I was like,
i gotta show it ten five o'clock. I'm gonna go
laid down for a little bit.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
The other day she's like, yeah, Chris and I and
maybe this is New England thing. Chris and I are
going to be redoing the deck, pulling all the pots down.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You know, stripping it down.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
And I'm like, what is it with you New Englanders
that you picked the hottest day of the summer to
do this ship that's going to massive amounts of physical efforts.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
She's like, let's just do what Chris tells me to do.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
And I'm going, uh, yeah, that's but that's pretty amazing
that you know, you buy right, should be.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
In bed, but you've chosen to just say no, no,
keep on, keep it on with all that.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah, but that's still a choice, all this choice.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, it is. It really is. And I find very often,
you know, a lot of my life, so much much
of my life happens like from the neck up, you know,
with my writing and everything. The fingers are flying and
and but everything's going on up here and in here,
and when I'm mowing the lawn or excuse me, or
(43:16):
painting the deck, or you know, picking up poop in
the playpen, or you know, just raking, just physical activity
where whether it's in the forties or it's in the nineties,
I'll adjust, I'll dress accordingly, but I go out and
(43:37):
I feel like I'm I'm using the vessel, I'm taxing
the vessel. Sometimes I'm keeping keeping in motion. You know,
a body in motion stays in motion. And I just
(43:59):
I lay down one I need to and I know
when I need to.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I eat chocolate when I need.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
To, which is daily daily because you know, and then
coffee nectar of the gods, it is liquid goddess medicine. Yes,
it is so yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, I
just I just I listen to myself and what can
(44:28):
I do? And you know, thankfully I have a wonderful
sister who if I say to her, Chris.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I'm done, I'm spent.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
You know, she liked, go lay down, Go get a
big glass of water and put a nice back on
the back of your neck, take a couple of moultrim
and go lay down. And then after about forty five minutes,
either she comes in and lays down, or I go
back out and join her, and then we have a
nice dinner and then we both rest. Now.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
So it's it works.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
It is, it works, and it's it's a unique and
interesting and lifelong partnership that I have with my sister,
my very special Christine, who.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I you know, I don't know how if I could
have even.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Gotten to where I am now without her, I know
that I couldn't have. She's been my rock of Gibraltar
through all of this, you know, my saving grace and
my advocate. Uh you know, my doctors know her as
well as they know me. And she watches out for me,
(45:35):
and as I watch out for her, and we go
protest together, and we go out to eat together and
love the Wally world together, and you know, and it's
it's it's a it's a camaraderie. It's it's it's a
unique relationship. There are no boundaries. None, No, And it's
(45:58):
I think it's important for all of us to have
at least one person in our life that it doesn't
matter what you say or how you say it, or
what you think, or if you're laughing hysterically or if
you are crying hysterically, you are universally perpetually accepted, embraced
(46:22):
and deeply loved by someone who, no matter what you
are going through, is there to hold your hand.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yes, I've got that, So I am blessed. I am
truly blessed.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Chrissy's the best, and she's really I don't know, if
you don't hang out with her much, people don't realize.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
How funny she is.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
She's a laugh riot.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
When we spent that fourteen hours cleaning out that room,
I had to laugh that hard a hot minute.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
She and I just.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
It was absurd.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
But you know she too, she's got that experience. She's
not as into it as we are, but she also
want to stands up. But she's just got such a
good attitude about you know that that's and that's just
who she is.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
But damn she's funny.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, yeah, she's in that job. She really is. The
aquariance Carrie, what is your what is your sign? I'm
an aquarian?
Speaker 6 (47:20):
Are you.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So much? I known? Yeah? Yeah, I am a true
aquarian for sure.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Well, I mean, yes, we all know, all three of
us know how to appreciate and to live in the moment.
But as you project forward with your gifts, with your friendships,
with the world and the life that you have built,
you know for yourselves? Do you feel innately optimistic? Because
(48:01):
I do.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I do.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
In spite of everything that operates to the contrary of that,
I still feel very optimistic because I know good conquers evil,
Love conquer sphere.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
It does everything I do without exception. So it's easy
to be optimistic. But how do you feel? I'm very optimistic.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
It's it gets to a point like, just you've got
to turn the news off. You've got to Sometimes my
mom will watch the news all day long and just get.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Madder and matter. I'm like, Mom, you've got to step away,
turn it out, tune about temporarily, tune it out.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
Right, Let's watch Tarry Card, Let's watch Mike and Molly.
Let's watch something else for a little while. Big Bang Theory, Ben,
Big Bang Theory, And of course friends, Yes, and friends
but I am optimistic about not only what is going
on in the world with humanity in our country, but
(49:10):
even in my own personal life. I've got nine thousand
businesses that I've started, and I'm like, you know what,
They're all going to be raging success.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
And while I'm spread very thin with time, I am
going to do it.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
It's going to be fine because I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
What it's what I know I'm supposed to be doing.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
I find that when I do things that I am
called to do, Yes, the more optimistic I've become.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
If that makes well, I think too.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
It's so easy to get caught up in the bigness
of what's going on, and you know, I'm doing the
protests saying, which I know shocks the shit out Andrew, Okay,
I could finally start doing that.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Oh now I knew. I knew you were going to
get there.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I knew there eventually.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
But I think the position, and I still maintain, is
that I can't change what's going on as an individual
in the world or in this country as one person,
but I can affect change in the circles I run in. Yeah,
I can try and be a good person. I can
still you know, like we do our show, or you
know so many I d energy work, or like I
can still affect change in the realm with which the
(50:22):
space that I occupy, you know, I can help.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Very well said like we said, and those.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
Are ripple effects, right, drop pebble in the pond and
it a little out. So yeah, that I think has
helped me with navigating some of that because it's like,
I know, I'm trying to do things the right way
and I'm trying to help other people.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
And if I can do that and feel good with it,
then yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
Can't do anything about the chaos, you know, but I
can help in my immediate little circle.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
That I have, and you can choose not to add
to it.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Well, that was exactly the true, But I was just
going to make and I'm glad you said it first
the way that you It's not just it's not just
about avoiding the chaos, the bedlam, the anger, the subtrifuge.
It's not about avoiding it. It's about not increasing it.
(51:18):
You know how many times, Aaron have you heard me
say we simply cannot afford to become what we loathe. Yes,
you know, we can't. The messages that I have gotten.
I covered this on Soul School Last Hour. The messages
that you know, lead with love, Lead with love, Lead
(51:40):
with light, or you will fail at your mission. Lead
with love and light, or you will fail at your mission.
And you can stop what's going on. But there's only
one way to stop it, and that is love. Because
love is a verb. Love is an action word. It
(52:02):
only masquerades as a noun. It's nothing but four letters
until you put it into action. Yes, and so you
know that was the reason why Bill's throwing us off
the air in like two minutes.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
But you know, I just had him.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I him, But I think he finagles with the clock
because he's probably got to go pee or something, and
you know, seven other show going on, seven other shows
at the same time, you know.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
But yeah, okay, so he's actually right. We are actually
out of time. But I will have you back again
because we need to dance. We need to. Oh that's
so sweet. We need to we need to do this.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
We need to explode with the joy of our sisterhood.
Our you know, we're star sisters. Where you know we are? Oh,
you know, and please everybody out there that's with an earshot,
you know, my dear Lynn and Jeff Bowling and.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Jeff just had hip surgery, so if everybody.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Could please please please send him some good healing energy.
So he's like my paranormal husband, and he needs to be.
I mean, Lenny is kind enough to share him with
me and let him run me all over Michigan and
and and help me in every conceivable way.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
And look they're already doing it. It's already coming in.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Yeah, you know, I really I want Jeff back on
his feet pronto.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
We got shipped to do.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
We got super supernatural Shenanigan zine.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
So do your physical therapy, yes, and do your physical therapy.
Oh and Aaron, before we go. I've got this thing.
I've got this thing that's going on right here. I
don't know what it is. It's right here. It's this
big lump and it's okay, it's my my right I
might have just overstrained it doing something I probably shouldn't
(54:13):
have been doing. But yeah, so if you could just
work on my right back arm and elbow.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, thank you so on that happy.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Note, I love you, I love love love you, I
love you all.
Speaker 7 (54:27):
Thank you so much. This has been such a joy.
Oh God, I love you so much. And Aaron, you're
my god, one of my very best friends. And I
know I'll talk to you in like an hour or so.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
But yeah, yes, yeah, for sure, Yeah all right, I've
never been watching. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Okay, everybody have a wonderful, very happy find something to
celebrate on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Trying not to use fireworks in.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
You know, places that are nothing but tender waiting to
you know, go up.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
And pets inside.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yes, and be safe and don't drink and drive and
be the light you seek.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Okay, that's it. We're good. We're out of here. My
love you. I guys,
Bosh boom boom.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It is there.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It is a world awakening, and I have got two
of the most fearless, fierce goddesses that I could ever
have on the show. Aaron Bush Carrie Hopper. Welcome to
a world awakening. Let's set this party on fire.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Let's do it. I'm here for it. I mean, Erin
is for me. Erin. You are an inspiration to me.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You are and I can't tell you that often enough,
but you were. You've found the wherewithal within yourself to
you know, people go to psychiatrists, and the psychiatrists will
try to rip the plant out of the planter to
(02:10):
look at all of the roots of the problem. Right, Okay,
Aaron ripped the plant out of the planter. I threw
it in the back of a Subaru and drove it
to Maine from Florida residence in like the snow belt,
the frozen tundra. Yea, and.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Reinvented herself in a year.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I know, I'm I it sounds so much cooler than
it is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah. No, I know how much work it was, and
I know and I know all of it. I get it.
I've done it. I've done it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I've you know, moved twelve hundred miles in a U
haul all by myself with a dog and a cat
in the front, keeping company through the tolls.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And your life right, why not?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You know? And I have.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I've reinvented myself over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And I think that to live true to yourself, you
have to live fearlessly.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, you can't, because how many times has each one
of us ever been belittled or ridiculed, or kicked to
the side, or had dispersions cast upon us? For you know,
very often no reason, sometimes with reason, and we have
to rise above that and learn our lessons the hard way,
(03:32):
which is what humanity seems to have to do, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then and then just move on.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But you know, both of you, I mean, Carrie, when
I first met you in person, I was just blown
away by your energy and I know that Aaron was
as well, and we became fast friends.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You guys do a wonderful show on Thursday nights. Thursday nights, Yes, all, Well,
that was weird, a metaphysical comedy of errors with Carrie
and Erin and it's hysterical and you make people laugh
till they cry, and you and you bring forth this
(04:16):
deluge of human emotion because they can relate because they
get it because, as you know, they're sitting there staring
at a computer screen, or they've moved us on YouTube
because it's all magical and shit over onto their TV,
and you know, just sit there and get absorbed into
(04:37):
what you're doing. What we are doing. What we are
doing is raising the vibration. That's what all of Soul
School was for the first hour. And then everybody ran
because we talked a lot about food, and everybody ran
to the kitchen to get whatever that they had in
the kitchen. It was really yummy to come back to
(04:58):
watch a world awakening. Yeah, so what inspired you to
concoct this crazy show that touches on all things but
really stems from our connection with the supernatural, with what
(05:20):
is paranormal and in otherwise quote unquote normal world, which sucks.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Okay, right, you want to take that one.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Well, So Aaron and I had kind of always talked about,
especially when our abilities really started coming to the forefront.
We had always talked about how we just kind of
stumbled through it and just kind of had to try
to like figure it out. We're fortunate Aaron and I
are fortunate enough to have people like you to lean
(05:52):
on and people like my friend's Chris and Adra to
lean on to kind of just be like how do
I do this?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Where do I start?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
But not everybody has that support network that Aaron and
I have.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So we were.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Like, maybe we want to create a Facebook group where
people can just like ask questions or talk about you know,
this is what it's like for me, what was it
like for you? And but we were so busy with
all these other things in our lives that we were like, well,
now it's not the time. I mean, Ken had approached
(06:31):
us and said that he wanted to he had a
spot every other Thursday, and did Aaron and I want
to do a show together?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And that was the sign. That was a sign that
we needed, yeah, to.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Finally have this community of people that we'd always wanted
to have.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So that's that's how it got started.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And when you have abilities that are coming out and
you're getting new ones joining them, just getting new abilities
all the time, and you're kind of like, oh, is
that that's what we're doing now?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, well.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Well that was weird, like and that's constantly with Aaron
and I were saying to each other like, well and
then all of a sudden I touched this thing and
I got this flash, and I was like, well that
was weird. So that's kind of where the that's I'm
not kind of where that is where that came from.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think we wanted, you know, when we were in
when we were all together in North Carolina a few
years ago, did I do your third eye for you?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yes, you did, like usual, your fault the mojo whammy mommy.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Is what I have called it. But I tell everybody
I can't undo it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, that's we have forthright, and you know, very straightforward
in terms of I do not know how to undo
whatever it is that I'm doing and I'm not the
one doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
They are comes through and then yep, and it is.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I mean, how many times, Aaron, have you seen me
have to stabilize a human being an old them in
place because they were going over because they were suddenly
not you know, connected until you go out.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, people turn into rubber chickens sometimes when we need Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Quite an experience.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And that's what we tell you because I'm very proud
Andrew that you did that for me. I'm very proud
and very honored because I wouldn't want you to undo
it even.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
If you could.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I love the gifts that I've been given, and if
I get more, I will love those as well. And
that's what a lot of people because you're pretty well
known for being able to do that, for having this
ability to open up somebody's third eye. So I think
a lot of people have this misconception that it's the same.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Ex thing for everybody. No, it's not, and it's not.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
It's very different and you don't actually know what the
person is going to experience.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You're opening up their third eye.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
And however, yeah, like and it may be something huge
and tremendous like it was with me, where you pretty
much just blew the cage wide open, or it might
just be, you know, somebody learns how to raise their
shield so that they can, you know, feel the higher
(09:35):
vibrations that people are sending to them.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But it's different for everybody.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
And I think that people get so excited when they
talk to folks that you have done that for that
they're like, I want to do the same thing, almost
like they're thinking, you gave me the abilities that I have,
or no, they will.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Give it to them too. Yeah, I gave you the key. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And that's what Erin and Arrow is saying, is like, Okay,
everybody says, it's really cool to have these abilities, and
you wish you had it, but be careful what you
wish for.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Surely you will get it. You're going to meet somebody.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
When I met Erin in Saint Augustine, I knew immediately instantaneously.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I looked in that woman's eyes and I said.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh, you're actorian and she says, yeah, I've been told
that before.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That was it. That was it. You might have you know,
might as well have just stitched us together at the hip,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And it's and I have so many people in my life,
but I have a close knit family that I you know,
Jeff and Lynn Bowling like my family, and you know,
Amy and Sean Moore are my family. And Aaron Bush
(10:52):
and Carrie Hopper and debdah Ruth and Tom Owen and
you know, I mean, and some people, I mean, I
haven't even known for a year, Mike. You know, I've
only known Nicky Thompson for about maybe six seven years.
But I would I would stop a train, you know,
(11:12):
to protect him, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I mean, there's there's so.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Many people that we have in our life, but really
it's a small circle. You know, Oh, Erin, I've got
my circle the wagon thing like written for you to
put on the.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Me.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yes, I will, but uh, you know, you can read
people by their vibration. And the thing, you know, what
I needed from Erin more than anything in the world
was I needed her cheerful disposition to live up because
when we met, I was already walking around with this
(11:51):
dread disease in me. I just didn't know it yet,
and I was fighting every day, fighting, you know, thinking
I'm blaming it on on COVID, blaming.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It on you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I'm just working too many hours, traveling too many trips,
taking you know, too many chances out in the real world,
and not doing what I needed to.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do to rest and take care of myself, and then.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Chastising myself whenever I rested or and you know, point
blank first how that is with me, And I had
to forgive myself and understand that the rest is part
of healing. That that is, you know, something that I
have to do for myself. And it also opens us
(12:37):
up to the to our galactic family. It opens us
up to the light beings who are trying.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
To help us.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And if we don't get still, and we don't get
quiet every now and then and listen, then we're missing
the whole point. Human beings don't feel like they're they're
worthy unless they're constantly working, constantly active, constantly accomplishing, constantly producing, constantly,
(13:11):
constantly constantly on the move.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, of taking the time to be on the mend.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, that's that's been something I've been living well since
my job at Sunday River was up. When the season ended,
It's very hard to get used to just sort of
being okay, but then it's like, okay, it's been a
crazy two years. You know, we're feeling good about it,
but the body's still exhausted, souls still tired that you
have to kind of take that, yeah, take that time.
(13:41):
And I think you know, that was one of the
other reasons we wanted to do the show is because
I think a lot of times when we say this
often that you know, metaphysical life, spiritual life, you know, paranormal,
a lot of it is fluff, and you know, everything
is unicorn farts and sunshine, rainbows, and we want and
(14:01):
that's great. Like I'm not knocking that position at all,
because you know, there is a lot of that, but
I think we wanted to bring the balance and the
other end of it. Like we present it as a
train wreck, and we are and that's fine, but I mean,
I mean that's the reality of what it is. I mean,
I'm a mess, She's a mess together, it's just a
whole disaster.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But for whatever reason, that seems to go over well.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
But I think it's because we're trying to present a
realistic way of what this really looks like instead of
it being all done up and filters and you know,
very expensive leggings and like, I'd rather be honest and
if I look like I'm roade hard and hung up
wet as we say in the South, and so be it.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Like that's the reality of what life is.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But there's there seems to be a lack of.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
That to Cody, and he was like, what, I'm like,
this is slide.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
But we wanted to present the reality, like of what
it looked like for us because because, like Carry said,
we we have built an amazing network of people and
that know a lot more than us, so we do
have that access.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I mean, I can call you called zafase I can
you know all.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
These amazing people that have so much time in the field,
whether it be paranormal or metaphysical. Like, we've built this
amazing community of people, but like Harry said, not everybody
has that. So if we're able to present it but
in a way that is true to us, which is
shit show, then people tend to resonate with it because
then it's real, Like we're not trying to say, oh,
(15:41):
if you do X, Y and.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Z, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
No, there's a lot of rocking in the corner and
crying and what the hell is wrong with me?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And have I lost my mind?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And we'd rather just present it the way it's sort
of presented for us. And I think that community that
we found it's great because in the chat, like we
always love watching everybody talking just like they do here.
It's a lot of the same people.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
All these I know we do.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We share a lot of the same people, which to
me is like a validation, you know, I mean this
is our tribe.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, they've got the vibe, they know what we're talking about.
They feel us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, we when when we connect with them, even in cyberspace,
which is actually a pretty comfy place, you know, if
you admit it, you know, we can we can do
what we do in our jammys if we want to,
and and so can they.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And that's what's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And it's the acknowledgment that we are normal people that
have had paranormal experiences, that we are natural in our environment,
but we sometimes have supernatural experiences.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That blow us away.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You know, so when you share it, and your viewers,
your participants in what you do, feel that and might
be sitting there going, oh my god. You know something
like that happened to me when I was a kid,
Oh my god, and it just triggered that memory. Just
from having conversation, like just open conversation and with the
(17:17):
admission that none of us understand exactly what's happening. We
know that there is another realm. We know that because
we've experienced it, and we've been graced to experience it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's not a curse.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's a blessing to have to be touched by spirit,
you know, for that moment that just even if it's
a fraction of a second, to know that what you
just saw, what you just felt what you just heard.
You know, somebody just called your name and it was audible. Oh,
(17:57):
now do I recognize that voice?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You know? I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It is you erin with two fingers and your back
and you knew and you called me, and I knew.
I knew that an attachment had formed.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Well, your mother, who I hadn't even told anybody yet,
sits up in bed.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Oh, Aaron brought a friend back.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
For the farm call it to tell you that it
had morphed into an attachment. And then I was like,
a shit, if Miss Carolyn's already figured it out, I mean,
I need to.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Make some calls on Monday.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. Right, But I think.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's kind of the other thing, like I'm not afraid
to admit, Like when we've talked about that whole situation
last week, of the biggest things about this journey is
knowing we don't know everything. Like we're always going to
be students.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Of this field.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
There's always something new to learn, and you have to
be comfortable when you're out of your element and you're
not not in trouble, but you're having issues, then you've
got to be willing to go and tap into those
friends and those people that know a lot more than
you do.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Listen to what they say, take that advice.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
And I think one of the other things I love
about our show is all the stuff that we talk about.
We try to make the things we discuss things people
can try at home.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
A lot of these.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Tools and spiritual you know, crystals and all like, so
much of this stuff is really expensive, and you feel
like buy all the newest, fanciest things to kind of
start this journeys trying to get things that they can
do at home, and most of the time it's with
stuff they've already got.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know, well, I'll tell you know, I'll tell our
viewers tonight what I told you what I told Carrie you.
You are your very very best piece of equipment. You
your sensory perceptions. And when you're using your five senses
to their fullest, and you have an open heart and
(19:53):
your soul is ready to receive information, then here it comes.
You can't stop it, and you can ignore it. You
can turn you back on it. If it scares you
a little bit, you can it's agin na, But eventually
you know whether it's in the back or on the shoulder,
(20:15):
it's going to let you know, hey, I'm still here,
and I know you know I'm still here. You don't
have to acknowledge it if you don't want to, but
I am here. Yeah, you know, it's it's to me.
It's a wonderful thing to me. It's what washes away
any fear I might have around a dread disease, like
(20:41):
any fear.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, no, I have to agree with that as well.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I know that, And you know I'm first of all,
I feel way too alive to die. I like way
too alive and in fact, in some ways, and you
might both understand this or not, but in some ways,
you know, being given a death sentence brought me back
(21:05):
to life. It did and made me cherish every moment,
every experience, even you know, embrace my naps as healing
and divine and lovely.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's brought me deeper.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I've always been a deeply faithful, spiritual person, but
nothing like where I am now. Yeah, you know, because
I've had some life altering healing experiences through this, which
I would not have required if I didn't have the disease.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That makes any sense, it absolutely does.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
It can't help but change your outlook on things when
somebody gives you that kind of.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Diagnosis that.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Unless you simply just don't care about life or living
or anything, you are going to stop and take stock.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So, knowing what it's like in the light, knowing having
that connection, I'm not surprised that it doesn't. You have
no fear of it because we live in it so
much of our lives. Yeah that My best friend of
(22:29):
forty years, her mother died of breast cancer a year
and a half ago, and Jennifer I talk about her
all the time. She knows about my abilities. She was
one of the ones that were.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Like, I'm here for you. It's going to be okay,
You're not going crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
But there are times where because I know what life
is like in the light, because I talk to people
in it, my own family and loved ones of you know, others,
sometimes I just wish that I could give her my
gift so that she could see what life is like
in the light, where her mom is, where her grandmother is,
(23:04):
where her cousin is. I wish that there was a
way I could better describe what that's like so that
the ones that are left behind feel a little bit
of comfort, Because a lot of people are like, I
don't what is heaven like I don't know, or if
they don't even believe in it, like.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Where did they go? What is happening? On death?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It changes your whole perception on.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, on death, it does, it does.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
I don't have a fear of it either, and I
don't even have a I haven't even been given that
kind of diagnosis that you have.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Andrea, No, well, I didn't believe it. I refused. I
am defiant in the face of this. I am a
bitch from hell in the face of this.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What's my mantra, Aaron, what's my daily mind?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Get out of my fat fluffy temple right now? I
think I missed a word.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, fuck, you miss the word fuck.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Get the fuck out of my big, fat fluffy temple now.
And then I expanded it over time. Oh did you
have a bitch? Go back and live with your father
the devil.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So it's it's, you know, depending on.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Like how much coffee I've had sometimes, so I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We need to make sure there And there's one long
sentence on the front of her shirt. Somebody will make
it for me.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, somebody hashtag hashtag yeah yeah, and the other one
we are here. I mean, neither one of you are
naive enough to think that you just stumbled upon your
abilities at this particular point in your particular life. Right,
you know, there's no such thing as coincidence. What whatever
(25:00):
you come into this world with, you were.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Born with, you brought with it. It was up to
you to discover it.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And you know, I'm I am humbled truly by the
fact that I helped Aaron discover what is her essence
because she did a lot of suppressing of the essence,
because it was just a little like like you know, hard,
(25:29):
it's hard. It's nothing easy about it. Is that Bernie
in the back.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Bang around a bone down here. At least he's not
squeaking tonight. But so we got plenty of time for that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I saw black on black movement over there, right corner. Yeah,
that's burnmeister. I love him.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I had a four mile walk today, so he should
be asleep, but he's not.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
So that's but.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, I think you you know, you get to the
point with the stuff where like in the face of
your diagnosis and the face of the chaos Carrie's had,
and the face of the chaos I've had, and the
you know, everybody's got their own shit that they're going through,
but they have a choice in your perspective on any
situation that you're in. And I've said this before and
(26:18):
I think you can all.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Agree with that.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Like, do I have every right to potentially be bitter
and pissed off about the last two years?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Do?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But what point everything that's happened in the last two
years has brought me right here? So I could choose
to focus on, you know, the end of my marriage,
and you know, the loss of my job at the farm,
or you know, the death of your mom, the death
of like take your pick of any of the things
that have.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Gone on in the last two years.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
But I made the decision because I've learned so much
from the people on the screen and all these other
people in my life, and I've done a lot of
work to be able to look at it and be like, Okay,
there's no plan. That's okay, because I len for sure
that the universe has always got a bigger, better plan.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I just have to trust it.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
And I also understand that a lot of those things
fall by the wayside because they were no longer.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Working, they no longer served.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
You, They don't, so it's you know, but that's all perspective,
and that's a choice that each individual has to make,
and it's not an easy choice.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
To make, No, it's very difficult.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
A lot of people would rather stay stuck in the
quadmire because change is scary.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Right, change is scary, and compliance are easier than going
forward hopefully and fearlessly.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's easier. In the same way as all three of
us have.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Talked about why it seems like so much of the
world has gotten cold as stone, and the reason that
it seems that way is because it has because empathy hurts.
It hurts when you even momentarily put yourself in an
(28:07):
absolutely untenable situation that is happening to someone else, and
even for a moment, feel how scared they are, feel
how much they are suffering, feel how hurt and deeply
scarred they are by what they're experiencing. When you put
(28:27):
yourself in their shoes, even for a brief amount of time,
and then extricate yourself from it, you still feel that pain.
And so what we have to do is not discount
and discard empathy. I think it's one of the greatest
(28:48):
human emotions, one of our greatest qualities.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But we have to.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Learn not to let it consume us, not to let
us become the trauma. You know. It's it's yes, it's very,
very difficult when you are an EmPATH. I mean if
my sister gets a hangnail and starts swearing and looking
(29:14):
for the file and just having a fit in the
kitchen while I'm making her a cup of coffee and
she bought her fingernail letting the cat out the back door,
and she tore her nail off, and oh my god,
it's the end of the world as we know it.
I absorbed that SpongeBob has nothing on it. Then she'll
(29:36):
walk up to me and, you know, with her booboo
finger and.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Look at me and say, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I'll say, no, I just absorbed this fit that
just through for thirty seconds, and it just now I'm mad,
you know, And now I don't even know how to
deal with this.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What do I do with this?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah? And she's like, she's like, I'll just go out
and feed the chickens, you know, freeloading chickens that have
moved into our yard, you know, by the doesn't I'll
just go feed the chickens.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You'll feel better now we are absorbent. Empathy is painful.
It's hard, it.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Is, and you can either choose that path or you
can let yourself go dark and hard and not feel
anything for anyone because that way you don't get hurt.
And me it might be the easier path, but it's
(30:43):
not the brave one.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
No, no, it's a very lonely path.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
At the end of the day, requires courage to live
this life. Nobody's promised us this.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We're going to be easy. Nobody did exactly and exactly
for the week.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Take this kind of stuff takes a lot of self
introspection and a lot of.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Pulling out the worst parts of yourself and having to.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Make peace with those in order to because again it's
all balanced, right, you can't have light without dark.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You have to learn all you have to learn to
love all the parts of yourself in order to become
more whole.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, even the bad things.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
And one of my favorite lines ever is in Pretty
Woman where he's talking to her and telling her she's
amazing and wonderful, and she's like, the bad stuff is
easier to believe, Yeah, because it is, well, okay, look
at it. Where did it come from? How did why
do you? How do you use that bad stuff? How
do you do you push it away? Do you try
(31:43):
to just if you take a really raw look at yourself.
That's hard to do because nobody wants to address the
worst parts about them that maybe other people see and
think that those are the bad parts of them too.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Nobody wants to do that.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
But if you really want to, I don't really want
to say live an authentic life, but just kind of
like own who you are.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Start there.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
We've all at some point, and I've said this on
our show, we all at some point have been toxic
as fuck to someone else. We are a villain in
someone else's story, and that's probably a rightly earned title.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But you know, are we really going to come.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Out and be like, no, no, he lies and he
made it up and I didn't go crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You know what.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
My ex fiance would probably be like that bitch is crazy.
You know why, because I was at times, I know
him crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
It was not great. We just got to admit it, yeah, admitute.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
You don't have to like well, you know, the thing
is that that we all walk with our shadow, all
do if there is.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Light, then our shadow is right there with us.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And you know, Jeff and I, Jeff Turner and I
on Soul School, have addressed this many times, and you
know it's what we really have to do, I think,
is learn to just.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Put our arm around it.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
And and you know that is part of us. You
know that we live in a three dimensional world, in
a multi dimensional universe, and in the world that we
live in, as narrow and as oppressive and as burdensome
(33:40):
as it can be. You know, it's duality, and one
cannot exist without the other.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
There is no one who has ever.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Walked this earth that is pure, absolutely completely pure.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I've seen examples.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Where I've met people that are really close to that,
but even they will say, oh no, no, you know
I could, like I said tonight, I can be a
bitch from help and where I focus that negative energy
(34:21):
that is in me is against a disease.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
And then not believing if I were told by.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
My doctor that what I was told that my particular
infirmity is incurable and inoperable. If I had believed that,
I would probably be gone already, because that's how advanced
it was. Yeah, and now they're having trouble finding it
(34:56):
I'm going for a pet scan next week next week two,
uh yeah, the seventh, I think, And man, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I can't wait to talk to.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
The staff and the people that are reading the machine.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And I'm in.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
A in this like thing that looks like I'm on
a spaceship.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
My cat?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, yes, could I bring my cat like?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Look? I think she ate an earring. You know, you's got.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
To think about it this way, and we've talked about
this at length. I mean, what you've been going through
is such a testament too, because obviously you've got modern
medicine that you're using healthcare system. But then the other
end of it is the energetic.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Side of it. And can we talk about empathy and
people's lack of it in this world.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
The one thing that that empathy and what you dealing
with having comment is that everybody is energetically connected, and
people forget that.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
But on the positive collection.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
What you've been going through and how you've been handling it,
healing so quickly like kicking this thing's ass, is also
a true testament to the energetic connections that you have
with other people, whether it's a healer or a you know,
a friend or whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It looks like thousands and thousands and people have prayed
for me exactly, and so humble, so grateful, so deep grateful.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
But it's your perspective knowing that there's more out there
which takes the fear of death out. But then also
the knowing full well what you'll be getting from other
people energetically, from the galactic's spirit, whatever it is, you're
just like, give it all to me, I don't care.
I'll take it, yea, and fully embracing that. So you
didn't have, like I think you and I talked about,
(36:58):
where there wasn't there's never been fear for you. Where
I think where it gets hard for people is And
of course that kind of diagnosis, if you don't have
the background that you've got in metaphysical, spiritual paranorm all
that stuff, fear is an easy one to slide into,
and once starts manifesting, then that changes the frequency of
the energy you're putting out. So again it's a cognitive
(37:21):
decision that you were basically like not today, Satan, and
you know, stayed on that high vibrational level and then
you just took everybody along with you. So it's been
such an and if you don't write it why you know,
you know how I feel about you writing a book
about this whole experience, because it is a testament to
what the connectedness of all of us can do with
(37:43):
a singular intention. I mean, how many events did you
go to or not even ones you went to, but
the ones you went to, and then other ones you
weren't even at.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Where people were doing prayer circles for you, And you know,
like it's it's a singular intent.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
It's all high vibrational, and it's thousands of people from
all over the world, and that that says something.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, it really does. It's tremendous.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
And to be able to feel to be a part
of it and feel the collective energy for you remarkable, Agree, remarkable.
I wish, yeah, I wish that that. Like Karin said,
not everybody has that, but I think that a lot
(38:27):
of people will put stuff on Facebook like, oh, you
know where I'm having family problems, please please pray. That's
a lot of people get annoyed when they see posts
like that. They're like, they're vague booking, we don't know
what's going on, blah blah. Well you know what doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Just right, the energy.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think more people should
do that because there are so many of us, the
three of us, everyone watching all everybody that we know
in our beautiful little weird tribe will send that.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Energy to them.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yes, but most people are like, I don't scroll, They
just want attention.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's right, and it's that vibration that we need to avoid,
like the black plague of Europe right for sure, that you.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Because if somebody had, if somebody found the courage to
open up their phone in a moment of desperation and
reach out to some friends, yes, but maybe a lot
of strangers too, and found the courage to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Honor it.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Honor it, you low life scum sucking son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Honor it shot up. It literally costs you nothing, nothing, nothing,
you behind. No, It's That's why I don't want to
hear about it.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It's about the other person.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's not about you.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Them who gets us that it's their business and if
you know that's what they need energetically, you send up
what you got and and hope that it helps.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
And then you know, but it's not about you. At
the end of the day, it's about other people.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
And if they're not going into detail about why they're
asking for prayers or energy, so what so what it's
not Yeah, it's not of our business when.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
You do energy, like when I do energy work, and Carrie,
you can probably relate to this on the cash the
cashing side of things, where I don't need.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
To know, like I don't.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
I mean, like in a copy you may be asking
a question, but you can read the records regardless, right,
it doesn't you know, you get your permission.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Doesn't matter. So like with the energy work that I do,
you don't have to tell me anything.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
I'm just the copper tube that the energy goes through
and comes out, and that energy is intelligent and it does.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Exactly what to go and what to do.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And I do little, you.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Know, directional stuff with symbols, but it's not my energy
I'm working with, and it's it's a very easy way
to just help someone by whether you're praying or you're
using energy, you're using the universe, whatever it is for you,
it's all the same intention.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, And it's exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Turn your volume down just a little because we're getting
suddenly we're getting du.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
That.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yes, the echo, Yeah, I got rid of the echo.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I don't know how this thing works, No know, just
that works.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I did not get a n app today, so that
I'm still conscious is really a testament to my personal strength.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh my, I.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Don't know how you do it, Andrew. I really don't,
because I took a three hour nap. I was like,
i gotta show it ten five o'clock. I'm gonna go
laid down for a little bit.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
The other day she's like, yeah, Chris and I and
maybe this is New England thing. Chris and I are
going to be redoing the deck, pulling all the pots down.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You know, stripping it down.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
And I'm like, what is it with you New Englanders
that you picked the hottest day of the summer to
do this ship that's going to massive amounts of physical efforts.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
She's like, let's just do what Chris tells me to do.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
And I'm going, uh, yeah, that's but that's pretty amazing
that you know, you buy right, should be.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
In bed, but you've chosen to just say no, no,
keep on, keep it on with all that.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah, but that's still a choice, all this choice.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, it is. It really is. And I find very often,
you know, a lot of my life, so much much
of my life happens like from the neck up, you know,
with my writing and everything. The fingers are flying and
and but everything's going on up here and in here,
and when I'm mowing the lawn or excuse me, or
(43:16):
painting the deck, or you know, picking up poop in
the playpen, or you know, just raking, just physical activity
where whether it's in the forties or it's in the nineties,
I'll adjust, I'll dress accordingly, but I go out and
(43:37):
I feel like I'm I'm using the vessel, I'm taxing
the vessel. Sometimes I'm keeping keeping in motion. You know,
a body in motion stays in motion. And I just
(43:59):
I lay down one I need to and I know
when I need to.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I eat chocolate when I need.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
To, which is daily daily because you know, and then
coffee nectar of the gods, it is liquid goddess medicine. Yes,
it is so yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, I
just I just I listen to myself and what can
(44:28):
I do? And you know, thankfully I have a wonderful
sister who if I say to her, Chris.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I'm done, I'm spent.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
You know, she liked, go lay down, Go get a
big glass of water and put a nice back on
the back of your neck, take a couple of moultrim
and go lay down. And then after about forty five minutes,
either she comes in and lays down, or I go
back out and join her, and then we have a
nice dinner and then we both rest. Now.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
So it's it works.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
It is, it works, and it's it's a unique and
interesting and lifelong partnership that I have with my sister,
my very special Christine, who.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I you know, I don't know how if I could
have even.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Gotten to where I am now without her, I know
that I couldn't have. She's been my rock of Gibraltar
through all of this, you know, my saving grace and
my advocate. Uh you know, my doctors know her as
well as they know me. And she watches out for me,
(45:35):
and as I watch out for her, and we go
protest together, and we go out to eat together and
love the Wally world together, and you know, and it's
it's it's a it's a camaraderie. It's it's it's a
unique relationship. There are no boundaries. None, No, And it's
(45:58):
I think it's important for all of us to have
at least one person in our life that it doesn't
matter what you say or how you say it, or
what you think, or if you're laughing hysterically or if
you are crying hysterically, you are universally perpetually accepted, embraced
(46:22):
and deeply loved by someone who, no matter what you
are going through, is there to hold your hand.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yes, I've got that, So I am blessed. I am
truly blessed.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Chrissy's the best, and she's really I don't know, if
you don't hang out with her much, people don't realize.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
How funny she is.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
She's a laugh riot.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
When we spent that fourteen hours cleaning out that room,
I had to laugh that hard a hot minute.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
She and I just.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
It was absurd.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
But you know she too, she's got that experience. She's
not as into it as we are, but she also
want to stands up. But she's just got such a
good attitude about you know that that's and that's just
who she is.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
But damn she's funny.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, yeah, she's in that job. She really is. The
aquariance Carrie, what is your what is your sign? I'm
an aquarian?
Speaker 6 (47:20):
Are you.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So much? I known? Yeah? Yeah, I am a true
aquarian for sure.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Well, I mean, yes, we all know, all three of
us know how to appreciate and to live in the moment.
But as you project forward with your gifts, with your friendships,
with the world and the life that you have built,
you know for yourselves? Do you feel innately optimistic? Because
(48:01):
I do.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I do.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
In spite of everything that operates to the contrary of that,
I still feel very optimistic because I know good conquers evil,
Love conquer sphere.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
It does everything I do without exception. So it's easy
to be optimistic. But how do you feel? I'm very optimistic.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
It's it gets to a point like, just you've got
to turn the news off. You've got to Sometimes my
mom will watch the news all day long and just get.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Madder and matter. I'm like, Mom, you've got to step away,
turn it out, tune about temporarily, tune it out.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
Right, Let's watch Tarry Card, Let's watch Mike and Molly.
Let's watch something else for a little while. Big Bang Theory, Ben,
Big Bang Theory, And of course friends, Yes, and friends
but I am optimistic about not only what is going
on in the world with humanity in our country, but
(49:10):
even in my own personal life. I've got nine thousand
businesses that I've started, and I'm like, you know what,
They're all going to be raging success.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
And while I'm spread very thin with time, I am
going to do it.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
It's going to be fine because I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
What it's what I know I'm supposed to be doing.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
I find that when I do things that I am
called to do, Yes, the more optimistic I've become.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
If that makes well, I think too.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
It's so easy to get caught up in the bigness
of what's going on, and you know, I'm doing the
protests saying, which I know shocks the shit out Andrew, Okay,
I could finally start doing that.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Oh now I knew. I knew you were going to
get there.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I knew there eventually.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
But I think the position, and I still maintain, is
that I can't change what's going on as an individual
in the world or in this country as one person,
but I can affect change in the circles I run in. Yeah,
I can try and be a good person. I can
still you know, like we do our show, or you
know so many I d energy work, or like I
can still affect change in the realm with which the
(50:22):
space that I occupy, you know, I can help.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Very well said like we said, and those.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
Are ripple effects, right, drop pebble in the pond and
it a little out. So yeah, that I think has
helped me with navigating some of that because it's like,
I know, I'm trying to do things the right way
and I'm trying to help other people.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
And if I can do that and feel good with it,
then yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
Can't do anything about the chaos, you know, but I
can help in my immediate little circle.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
That I have, and you can choose not to add
to it.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Well, that was exactly the true, But I was just
going to make and I'm glad you said it first
the way that you It's not just it's not just
about avoiding the chaos, the bedlam, the anger, the subtrifuge.
It's not about avoiding it. It's about not increasing it.
(51:18):
You know how many times, Aaron have you heard me
say we simply cannot afford to become what we loathe. Yes,
you know, we can't. The messages that I have gotten.
I covered this on Soul School Last Hour. The messages
that you know, lead with love, Lead with love, Lead
(51:40):
with light, or you will fail at your mission. Lead
with love and light, or you will fail at your mission.
And you can stop what's going on. But there's only
one way to stop it, and that is love. Because
love is a verb. Love is an action word. It
(52:02):
only masquerades as a noun. It's nothing but four letters
until you put it into action. Yes, and so you
know that was the reason why Bill's throwing us off
the air in like two minutes.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
But you know, I just had him.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I him, But I think he finagles with the clock
because he's probably got to go pee or something, and
you know, seven other show going on, seven other shows
at the same time, you know.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
But yeah, okay, so he's actually right. We are actually
out of time. But I will have you back again
because we need to dance. We need to. Oh that's
so sweet. We need to we need to do this.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
We need to explode with the joy of our sisterhood.
Our you know, we're star sisters. Where you know we are? Oh,
you know, and please everybody out there that's with an earshot,
you know, my dear Lynn and Jeff Bowling and.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Jeff just had hip surgery, so if everybody.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Could please please please send him some good healing energy.
So he's like my paranormal husband, and he needs to be.
I mean, Lenny is kind enough to share him with
me and let him run me all over Michigan and
and and help me in every conceivable way.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
And look they're already doing it. It's already coming in.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Yeah, you know, I really I want Jeff back on
his feet pronto.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
We got shipped to do.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
We got super supernatural Shenanigan zine.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
So do your physical therapy, yes, and do your physical therapy.
Oh and Aaron, before we go. I've got this thing.
I've got this thing that's going on right here. I
don't know what it is. It's right here. It's this
big lump and it's okay, it's my my right I
might have just overstrained it doing something I probably shouldn't
(54:13):
have been doing. But yeah, so if you could just
work on my right back arm and elbow.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, thank you so on that happy.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Note, I love you, I love love love you, I
love you all.
Speaker 7 (54:27):
Thank you so much. This has been such a joy.
Oh God, I love you so much. And Aaron, you're
my god, one of my very best friends. And I
know I'll talk to you in like an hour or so.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
But yeah, yes, yeah, for sure, Yeah all right, I've
never been watching. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Okay, everybody have a wonderful, very happy find something to
celebrate on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Trying not to use fireworks in.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
You know, places that are nothing but tender waiting to
you know, go up.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
And pets inside.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yes, and be safe and don't drink and drive and
be the light you seek.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Okay, that's it. We're good. We're out of here. My
love you. I guys,
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