February 21, 2025 • 50 mins
Thom Owen, a Psychic Medium with a deep connection to the spiritual realm. After getting sober in 2018 his journey began with a profound desire to help others understand and connect with their loved ones on the other side. He has studied under renowned spiritual teachers Travel Channels Sarah Lemos and a certified Spiritual Advisor under Lisa Williams, who have guided him in honing his intuitive abilities and mediumship skills.
Through his work, he offers guidance, healing, and comfort, helping people gain clarity on life’s most important questions. Whether through messages from loved ones, insights into life’s path, or spiritual guidance, his goal is to provide a sense of peace and understanding.
Thom believes in the power of connection and trust that we are all capable of receiving messages from the spirit world. He is honored to use his gifts to help others on their own spiritual journeys, offering them the opportunity to heal, find closure, and embrace their own intuitive abilities.
Through his work, he offers guidance, healing, and comfort, helping people gain clarity on life’s most important questions. Whether through messages from loved ones, insights into life’s path, or spiritual guidance, his goal is to provide a sense of peace and understanding.
Thom believes in the power of connection and trust that we are all capable of receiving messages from the spirit world. He is honored to use his gifts to help others on their own spiritual journeys, offering them the opportunity to heal, find closure, and embrace their own intuitive abilities.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Having I have a very special guest tonight, a new friend, somebody.
It's strange. I got a call today from a friend
of mine, an elderly woman who lives in Michigan, who
is a medium, and she told me that somebody has
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recently come into my life, a man with crystalline blue eyes,
and that he is part of my tribe, that he
is part of my galactic family, that he is part
of that we've had basically a reunion, and I knew
immediately that it was Tom, and so, without further ado,
(00:45):
I want to introduce this wonderful, extraordinary man to my
beautiful audience because you deserve to know him and love
him the way that I do, and very shortly you
will unders stand why we are so connected. Welcome to
a world awakening. Tom, Hi, Hi Hi.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Such an honor to be here. I'm so thankful for you.
You've been such a presence in my life, and it's
so surreal to be on the show and also just
have you in my life all of a sudden, it's
like it's mind blowing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
One of my favorite things that happens is that my
friends become friends with each other, and my friends choose
who they know I need to befriend they do, and
that's what happened with us. Yeah. No, And I was
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just like, you know, when I hear you need to
talk to this man, he totally gets it, you know.
So I knew she was talking about all things metaphysical
and you know, deeply spiritual and your mediumship and all
of that, which is you know, a part of you,
(02:03):
but also all of you simultaneously. You know, your your
macrocosm and your microcosm all wrapped up in one thing.
Energy is everything is energy, and you ride a certain
frequency that I likewise ride, And so it was time
(02:24):
for us to meet. And and then when you started
sharing with me really you know the intricacies of who
you are, what is integral to you, tom Owen, You know,
all I could think of is, oh my god. She
(02:45):
was so right, Oh my God. And the eyes and
we're from the same place. And I just knew it immediately.
And so if you wouldn't mind, rather than me doing it,
I don't you tell our audience about your history and
you know what brought you here to this point where
(03:09):
your gift is able to help so many other people,
and what brought you to this what was your point
of enlightenment and understanding about who you were, where you
came from, why you are here, and what you're supposed
to do.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
All right, Well, I came into my abilities or gifts
or however you want to look at it. In twenty
eighteen I got sober. And I was a pretty bad
alcoholic for three or four years before that, and I
always kind of drank, so it was always something that
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I feel like now I kind of see it as
now I know I was deadening my my gifts and
abilities and awareness because I just didn't think I could
handle it. But I wasn't aware of that at the time.
But in twenty eighteen kind of hit rock bottom. I
was planning on checking out, really honestly, and my dog
stopped me, which was a beautiful experience and I'll always
(04:08):
love him for that. And then once I started, you know,
got sober, and I was, you know, kind of plateaued
and I was stable and all of that, I just
started feeling like, sobriety was more than I had anticipated
because I was like picking up on energies and like
hearing people's thoughts and I didn't really know what to
(04:31):
do about that, and so I thought, oh, maybe I'll
get a reading from like a psych medium, because maybe
they could. You know, I don't like, I don't even
want the reading. I just wanted to know what's going
on with me. And at that time I had looked
up Sarah Lemos. Are you familiar with her at all?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And so I was gonna seek up reading out with her,
and then all of a sudden I saw that she
offered a year long course and you know, kind of
psychic abilities. It's called Pathways to Spirit and it's a
wonderful course, a buffet of learning, shoppers and crystals and
astro travel and just so many great things. And Sarah
it's just a wonderful human being and honestly changed my life.
(05:11):
And so I did that and I got sick during
the middle of that course and I had to have
like a I had to have surgery. And she was like,
I'm starting a mediumship class and I feel like you
should be part of it. And I was like, well,
you know, I just had surgery. I can't really afford
all of that. She's like, my GUIDs are telling me
that you're a medium and that you need to do this,
(05:32):
and I was like okay, and She's like, so I'm
just going to give you the class and I was like, okay.
And after that, I started taking the mediumship class and
I immediately started getting information and I was beside myself
because I didn't know I had this ability. So yeah,
(05:53):
and it just kind of grew from there. And then
I studied under Lisa Williams. I'm being a certified spiritual advisor,
and I just kind of put myself out professionally. I've
been doing this for four years now, and you know,
you kind of just have to put yourself out there
and experience all the different you know, segues in different
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alleyways of what mediumship looks like and with different people
and you know, different vibrations and so I feel like
that's the best school.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So after that, you know, I've kind of just been
studying on my own. And you know, now meditating with
Rupert that has really changed the way that I changed
the meditation game, you know, dumped it on its head
because it was just I mean, he's just fantastic with
(06:45):
meditation in general, but you know, connecting with you know,
the beings, you know, and doing that meditation that you
know went back to when you were thirteen years old.
That that really that really changed changed the way I
saw meditation, and just I kind of was the inevitable
(07:06):
next step for me, I believe. So you are definitely
part of that as well. And so I don't know,
you've just been everywhere for me. And it's such a
joy to speak to you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh, you're so wonderful and so kind. I know, I
feel like we're really you know, maybe approaching it from
different ways, but we have the same message. And it's
a very simple message, and it's about love and kindness
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and respect and you know, being pure of heart and
generous of spirit, and you know, all the stuff that's
considered the fluff of this new age, you know, for
lack of a better term, right, The thing I find
(07:58):
most fascinating about it is that these concepts are as
old age as it gets. Yeah, it's not new. Nothing
that you're saying, or I'm saying, or many many others
are saying that are considered to be spiritual teachers or
you know, enlightened in some way that we're able to
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impart information to others, you know, certain in born wisdom
or you know, whatever whatever you call it. I just
can't imagine living any other way. And for me, this
all came to the surface as a very young child,
(08:44):
before we ever moved to the old haunted farmhouse. I
knew there was something very very different about me, and
I tried really hard to hide that because I didn't
want to be shunned or ridiculed or belittled or you know.
I mean, I got thrown out of Catholic Church for
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asking too many questions, you know, get out. But we
don't need your kind here. You're supposed to just accept
it as we tell you, memorize this that you go,
you know. And yeah, so in that respect, perhaps a
bit of a rebel rouser, but nonetheless to me what
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you do and being able to connect and know that
you're hearing something that's real. You know, my dear friend
Chip Coffee, he gets you know, I'll get a call
in the middle of the night from him every now
and then. You know, your sister is giving me a message.
(09:53):
I'm supposed to give it to you right away, you know,
and it's like it's eleven o'clock at night, Chip, Okay,
all right, So it's just it's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I got I got a call today now from I
got a call a few weeks ago from a friend
of mine, Kristin, that's up in a medium up in
the up who uh called me out of the blow
just to tell me that the one question that I had,
the answer is yes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The question that I had was when my mother passed away,
did she and April reunite? I wanted to know that
they were together foreshore and the phone rings and it's
Kristen telling me your mother wants your mom said yes, yes,
I'm sure there. You know it's it's it's really amazing
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that you can do, which you know, I don't even
I don't even know about mediumship. I mean to me,
I think if there's one medium in the world, then
everyone has the innate ability. Whether or not they nurture
it and bring it to the surface is entirely upon them.
(11:16):
But I think that if there's one psychic, then everybody
has the ability to be psychic. But like in much
the way that you did. I have often found that
people who start to display this ability, usually coming into
middle age is when it tends to surface, have spent
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a good long period of time of their lives trying
to suppress what they didn't understand that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And the public conditioning of you know what, they kind
of they you know, teach us to defensitize ourselves and
not listen to certain things that we are listening to
a psychic medium. So you know, it's just about, I guess,
unconditioning your brain to go back to the state that
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you were supposed to be in.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So when you embraced your gifts, did they increase exponentially
because of that, because of your acceptance of it?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, it was kind of like flying into spaceship, honest,
because it's just like I don't know, you know, I
didn't know I could do psychometry. I didn't know I
could do remote viewing, you know, all of these things
when you set your mind to it and you're able
to test these dimnations out. Yeah, it's an interesting thing
(12:42):
what you finally realized what you can do and like
how powerful you are, and like stepping into your power
is not something I was really anticipating. Knowing my purpose
or stepping into my power and mediumship has really helped
me grow as a person. And you know, finally having
a purpose at least, you know, I feel like that
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that's my purpose in life.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
To to discover that and know it and to live
it is I'm thankful as a human being to have
experienced this, you know, and to.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It is liberating. To it is liberating to understand what
your your role is and you know, and the Grand
Master Plan and feel really comfortable in your own skin
for the first time, you know. I tell people all
the time, I am certain I was born on the
island of misfit twice. I am absolutely certain of it.
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And that, you know, that's where my clan is. You know,
all the weirdos and the misfits and and the vagabonds
that roam this world with a billion different ideas going
on in their head at the same time, and and
all of these visions, and you know, the seekers and
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the seers and the oracles of the world, and you know,
the the metaphysical journey that we're all on. I think
that once you accept that what's happening to you with
not only your intuitive ability to you know, to read
the room as it were, but to be able to
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communicate that, to have the courage to not only accept it,
but then to put yourself out there so that you
can open up that line of communication. You know, almost
in the shape of a triangle between whoever is up
there that's trying to communicate down here, and you become
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the conduit. And it is empowering and it is beautiful.
It's also humbling as hell.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Absolutely every time I do a reading, n Ie mean,
I feel like I'm a little healed more just facilitating
that and being so close to spirit and hearing the
healing and feeling healing that's transpiring between the spirit and
their loved one. It's magical, you know. It's like reminds
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us of like who we are and what we're really doing,
you know what I mean, and what's really important, and
I just I you know, I don't ever get sick
of finding that reminder. Just absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, now we're going to take a quantum leap in consciousness,
whether you're ready or not.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
When we first got in contact, you one day sent
me a message. You had a question about extraterrestrials, about
our galactic family. You felt like there was some connection,
but you didn't know exactly what it was. You're a
little nervous about exploring that you were, you know, And
then we talked about it at length, as I recall,
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and then within a day or two, I started receiving
photog I don't know, I guess snapshots from your iPhone.
And you asked me, you know, basically, is that what
I think that is? And I said, well, you know,
you've made their introduction, they know who you are. They're
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going to make their presence known to you now because
you've been in contact with me and I'm your conduit.
And you were blown away by that. I was, are
you really? I was going to ask, you know, have
you kind of started to come to terms with it?
Have you? You know, are you seeing more? Are you
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looking up? Are you engaging in a very meaningful way?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Definitely looking up more. I think you just kind of
have to retrain yourself to look up because there's so
much happening, but we're just so focused on our ground
level that we missed so much.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I feel them. I feel them around. I almost feel
like the energies around like I feel you know, I
feel my guides and I feel you know, loved ones
around me, that kind of thing. But I also now
feel them, which is interesting because I almost feel like
they're right here with me versus like you know what
I mean. I feel like they're they're like in my
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around my house, around me, you know what I mean,
And so adjusting to those energies is exciting. And also,
you know, I think in tandem with the world being
the way that it is, I feel so much more
comforted now with feeling that presence. It just feels safer.
(17:40):
For some reason, it feels I don't know, I just
feel a lot of love well.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And in a way, you are being protected, and it's
important for you to know that that you are being protected,
that that your acknowledgement of them and your connection with
me as spontaneous and yet profound as it is, it
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is as it was, as it will be throughout time
as we spend time together. I will see you this
year in Michigan. I'm so excited about that. I'm so
thrilled because then I get to broaden your horizons even
more and expand your circle even more. As I introduce
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you to everyone that's at this singular event, I want
you to know that you are supported. You are being
supported in your desire to do as much good in
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the world as you can possibly do. And I was
given a message before we did the show tonight, and
I you know, I don't know how this pertains to
you specifically, but the message that I was given by
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them when I was outside real quick quickly was tell
Tom to forgive himself.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That resonates deeply. It's I mean, it's what I'm working
on in therapy right now. So you know that's definitely
hits the head on the nail there.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, it's the nail on the head.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Oh yeah, that's what it is. I said that, and
I was like, that was wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I know. I love it when I'm verbally dyslexic too,
makes me laugh at myself.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Right, so often we get them, you know, all messed up.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, you know, it's the thing about I think that
the road to redemption and enlightenment is paved with the
golden stones of forgiveness. Not just forgiveness for others, which
we really don't do it for them. We do it
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to release the burden that we carry when we hold
a grudge against someone else, knowing deep inside that most
likely they were doing the best that they could. And
we all fuck up at one point or another. We
all do, We make mistakes. We are human there, at
least partially in my case for sure, Yeah, threw things up, okay.
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But the thing about forgiveness is the release. And it's
like I tell folks all the time, you need to.
You have got to lay that baggage down on the
side of the road. I don't care if it's Louis Vitan.
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Lay it down, leave it there. Someone will come along
and pick it up and put it to good use.
Just leave it. Leave your pain and your sorrow and
your guilt and your shame and all of the things
emotions that burden us because of the mistakes that we've
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made and the regrets that we have, and put them
in a nice piece of luggage and just lay it
down on the road and keep walking. And you will
discover immediately what Jeff and I were talking about in
this old school tonight, the incredible lightness of being Tom,
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the incredible lightness of being Annie. Let it go, Let
it be. And it is that easy and that difficult
to just change your mind, just side, to change your
mind and say, you know what time to move on.
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I've made amends everywhere that I know how to, in
every way I know how to. And you know, either
the universe accepts the apology or not. But with the
best of intentions, I now move forward having learned my
lessons well, and it really is. It's freedom. It's freedom
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and it's light. And in order for you to do
what you do to the highest level, you have to
shed that weight. So that as I had to, I
had to forgive myself. I did because I've made some
mistakes in life that I would do anything to go
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back and redo it and not say a certain thing
or not do a certain thing. But then the more
you reflect on that in meditation or prayer or whatever
you understand, you get to a point of revelation where
you understand that every single thing that happened to you
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in your life is what formed you into what you
are right now in this moment, here and now, and
that if it happened any other way, you would not
be who or where you are right now. It doesn't mean,
you know, I'm about destiny and fate. I believe in
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free will. You know. I believe that we have the
right to choose to make mistakes, sometimes deliberately because we
think it's in our own best interest and we know
it's not a good idea, but we do it anyway
because we think that ultimately the outcome will behoove us
to uh, you know, feel gratified that a desire was
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met or whatever all of that. And what I will
say to you is for you to enhance and maximize
your gifts, you have to release whatever burdens you and
you can just simply decide to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Interesting. I like that. Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely working
on that. I've been in therapy for late two years
and you know, just going through the past and like
with a fine tooth comb and trying to really look
at spaces within my soul of where I you know,
may have swept things under the rug or you know,
any of that. So, you know, and I do this
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because I want to be the best that I can
be for others.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So well, you're a complicated person, yeah, you know you are.
You're a complicated person that comes with you know, it
would just have been you know, ultimately, it would have
just been so much easier for you to deny and
shun your gifts rather than to embrace them. Do you
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feel that your clients, you know, those that reach out
to you for readings and that type of thing, do
you feel when you are with them? And I'm just
doing this for a little bit of comparative analysis, because
I know a lot of people that are psychics or
you know, are connected in some way very either intuitive
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or empaths or you know whatever. And our vernacular has
expanded so much over the years. But you know, do
you feel a connection while you're doing the reading that
that touches you viscerally? I mean, do you feel well,
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is there any kind of a distance between you And
I'm not talking physical distance. I mean, I'm sure you
have to do some readings not in person but over
computers and stuff, But do you feel them and their
reaction to what you're telling them? I mean, how engaged
are you in the process or are you just passing
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on a message?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Uh? Yes, I'm just I am passing on the message.
But oftentimes I can feel the emotion behind the message,
which then kind of draws me in on a personal level.
Not that I let that get within the reading, but
you know, you feel the messages that they're getting are
just so beautiful that I can't help but get emotional,
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you know, and I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm crying. You know,
this is not you know, it's just and they understand
because they're so moved as well. But I mean, it
doesn't happen very often, but you know, I also find
that sometimes when I'm doing readings and the message that's
coming through for the person is also a message for me.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, so what's my next question?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So you know, there's a lot for me to ponder
and like sit with, you know, even after reading, you know,
because I always feel like there is something in there
that I can take and put in my back pocket,
you know, and even if it's not for myself, it
could be for one of my clients, you know, So
I always am trying to investigate what's offered.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
For sure. So do you sometimes get messages from your
own loved ones, you know, members of your family perhaps,
or ancestors that have passed messages of support and encouragement.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Absolutely. I always loved my grandfather, and you know I
was always around him, but you know, I was young
and he was old, and you know we weren't like
connected on a human to human level so much as
like a grandfather to a grandson.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And so.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Once I kind of established my mediumship, he kind of
came in pretty early on, and you know he told me,
you know, I'm sorry for you know, not understanding not
understanding you and your life and what you've been through,
and he you know, and now he had that understanding
and and he just really wanted to make sure that
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I knew. And that was you know, incredibly special. You know,
I think, you know, the whole the whole reason this
started was my grief from my mother's passing. And so
this is my grief and action in a sense. And
so she always, you know, comes by, and you know,
and it's always really special. I mean it's only probably
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be about like once every six months or so, but
she comes by and I can just feel it, like
it's like electricity in the air. And you know, I think,
of course I'll always miss her. But my sadness is
so different now that I have communication, you know, and
in my grief, it looks so much different after having communication.
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And you know, because of even that, I want other
people to have that experience and know that they can
do it, and I want them to you know, I
may be able to facilitate messages, but I really want
them to know that they can do this on their
own and that they don't need me, and you know,
leave people better than I found them.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, Yeah, it's incredibly comforting. That's you know what I
have found for people incredibly comforting. I have, you know,
having been connected to and exposed to the existence of
spirit at such a young age, fundamental until he changed
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my perspective on life and death and the afterlife. And
I do occasionally have a visitation or a message for
someone else. Normally, though, don't get it through spirit. I
get it through the galactic family, like the message for
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you that came from a very specific place with a
very specific reason. But every now and then I will
have a spirit reach out and reach through and just
usually not say anything. I don't really hear in my
(30:44):
head voice spirits voices usually, but I do sense a
very strong presence, not always easily identifiable, until there is
some action that occurs with it, and then oh there
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she is. There, she is right there, here she is,
and and it is it. It brings me joy. So
I understand, Tom, I mean, you used that word in
one of our initial conversations about how what you do
now brings you joy, not just your clients but for
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you as well, which is why I wanted to explore, Like,
how emotionally invested you get, right?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I get pretty I mean I get invested with them
because I care about humans, and I you know, and
I care about my community, and I care about you know,
helping people in their pain, and so you know, I
try to keep obviously professional lines, but you know, I
can't help but feel motion when someone can put down
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their grief and you know, and to watch them do
that and to feel that lightness, to feel that shift.
I mean, there's nothing like it. There's nothing like it
in the world. It's just it's so powerful, and you know,
you can't help feel emotion towards that, as you know,
an EmPATH and as a person that can feel the
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other person and just all of it. It's it's pretty encompassing.
But I definitely feel I feel like it changes me
emotionally for myself too, because it brings me back to
center about my life and and you know, and it's
always kind of just a reminder like don't get caught
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up and you know too much, because what's really important
is is caring for each other and loving each other.
Love is the important thing, and you know that, so
you know it all it's.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
A reset of your moral compass to true north, you know.
Every time. I mean, my sister Christine today went over
to do the grocery shopping, and you know, I don't
go out munch. I have to be very careful not
to interact with people, especially while you know, flew and
everything is just wildfire. I running rampant in Georgia, so
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I'm having to be rather reclusive staying them. And she
went out. She went shopping today, and I always tell her,
you know, expect. She tells me to expect a miracle.
I tell her to watch for earth angels. And today
when she went shopping, she made her rounds. She cashed out,
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She went and loaded everything into her car. She looked
all around her, all around her to make sure she
wasn't backing out. She got a big ass car, and
she just got to be careful. She's not backing out
into anybody that's coming and going. And she looked, and
she looked, and she looked, and she put it in
reverse and she started backing out, and all of a sudden,
(34:00):
a woman just appeared on the side of her car,
and she slammed on the brakes and panicked, thinking, oh
my god, you know, I'm did I like almost hit her.
And she opened her door and she said, I'm so
sorry I didn't see you. I didn't see you. And
the woman said, but I've been here all along, and
she handed her a beautiful bouquet of flowers. Oh my goodness,
(34:25):
and Christine's like, these are for me. And the woman said.
She was an elderly woman, she was short, she had
a big had of gray hair, and her winter coat on.
It was freezing cold, and she had and she had
nothing else in her hands. And she handed this bouquet
(34:47):
of beautiful, fresh cut flowers to my sister and told
her that she is blessed and walked away. And Chris
came home. She's like, Ann, you are not going to
believe this. You are not going to believe what just
happened to me today in the parking lot of public supermarket.
(35:09):
And she told me. And I just looked at her
and I said, they're everywhere, those Earth angels, they're everywhere,
you know. She's like, nothing like this has ever happened
to me in my life, you know, And I said, well,
maybe today was the day it deserved it most.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Just trying to get her attention, to get her refocus
on love and knowing that they're sending bigger at play. Yeah,
it's just I mean, how cool. And you wonder of that,
and that's even cooler.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It's this thing called life is a cornucopia of delight. No,
it's one of the reasons that I wanted to ask
you about your your interaction and your connection with your
clients during your readings. There's a very specific reason that
(36:09):
I want to ask you for that, because I'm sure
that your intuition is just you know, like going off
like ding ding ding ding ding. You know, you're picking
up on stuff and in a way kind of integrating
with your client as you're passing through those messages and
(36:30):
sharing that energy and that association for the length of
time that you're involved in the reading. But are you
aware as it's happening, Are you aware you had used
a moment a moment ago of the word. You can
(36:52):
sense and feel the shift that takes place, and it
is a paradigm shift. It is you know when you're first,
especially if you've never been consciously touched by spirit before,
not that you haven't been unconsciously or subconsciously touched, but
where you know that something has just happened that changes everything,
(37:15):
your understanding of spirit, an expansion of your notion of
life and death and an after life expands. You can't.
It's like, you know, the expanding universe. You can't shrink
it back down. You can't unthink, unlearned, unfeel, unhere, unno
(37:38):
what you've just experienced, especially when you are so precise
that the client knows instantly who the message is coming
from now? And does that for lack of a does
it bring you like a higher level of joy something
(38:03):
that I describe as higher love, like a higher level,
not like mortal love, like you know, I love that
TV show and I love my nephew and you know,
I mean yeah, but like a more spiritually advanced quantum
leap in love. Do you feel that? And if you do,
(38:28):
does it grow you?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I do feel that, and yes it does grow me.
It's kind of miraculous the shift that happens when you
are witnessing that, and you know, like you said, being
a paradigm shift in that moment and expanding consciousness and
(38:53):
expanding a person's viewpoint. You know, you get a few
of those, a handful of those moments as a human
being in general. But to be able to do it
on the regular and be side by side with those
with those experiences, yeah, I mean, and influences my life,
I feel like, you know, of course, I try to
(39:15):
be as relatable as possible to people and connect how
I can. But I just see love and connection and
this overall, you know, these souls all being together and
all having these love cords together, you know what I mean,
Like if we could just stop and understand how much
(39:36):
love there is versus how much division there is, and
so having those reminders, Yeah, it makes me want to
propel that love in front of everybody that I meet,
so that they have an experience of feeling loved that day,
you know, to feel seen, to feel connection, And I
just think it's so important to take that love that
(39:59):
I'm experiencing and share that. It's just it's what I'm
here to do.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
It is, and I know, I think one of the
other reasons that we're here is that it's your job,
and my job, and the job of many others to
be the antidote to this toxic disease that has spread
around the globe, that mindset that creates a constant conflict.
(40:34):
One mindset being we are all one family, we are
all in this together. The other mindset being all for me,
the rest of you are on your own. Yeah, And
as long as human beings have found that there's power
(40:55):
in engendering fear, as long as greed prevails, as long
as the phrase where interest lies, honor dies is particularly
poignant to me at this point, at this point in
(41:16):
my life, I've seen too much. I know that it
is a chronic condition of humanity. And I think that
part of your job, and part of my job, and
so many others, is to infuse, instill, and maybe even
(41:36):
reinstall in our hard drive the notion of empathy. What
does that word mean, simply put, the ability to put
yourself in the position of another and feel their pain.
(41:56):
And I think that part of the reason why humanity
is as not as a whole by any stretch, but
partially forsaken, the idea of nurturing that human emotion and
shunning it, is because it's painful. It is painful, and
(42:22):
it's just easier to be solitary and in that respect,
somewhat unapproachable. And it's easier not to feel compassion and
grief and witness the pain of others and feel it yourself.
(42:44):
It's just easier to shut that down, to drink it away,
to smoke it away, to self medicate it away one
way or another, and many of us that have worked
in this field and tried to impart what our gifts are,
(43:08):
our information are, our wisdom, what we have learned, what
we have experienced and passed that on. The only reason
that we're where we are is because, no matter how painful,
we allow ourselves to absorb it and process it and
(43:30):
feel it for others, which is why so many of
us are so prone to grief, sadness, and depression very much,
and a lot of anxiety, a lot of anxiety. And
so it's really hard to live in the real world
(43:51):
when you're not comfortable in three D where it doesn't
it doesn't compute, it doesn't make sense using, it's contradictory,
it's rhetorical, and it's vitriolic, and it's it's duality at
(44:12):
its worst. And so I think that what you do
by providing these readings for your clients is you're opening
their hearts up, not just their third eye, but their
hearts so that they feel the pain of that loss
(44:34):
but also feel the comfort of getting a message from
the person who's loss devastated them. Does that make sense.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Or am I just absolutely you know, opening the heart
to remind them of the love that is there and
never went away, but you know, human mind makes them
think that that's not there anymore. And so you have
that recognition of love, love that you've known, you know,
love that that is part of you. It changes people.
(45:08):
It changes people, It gets them out of it gets
them out of their slump. And then, you know, and
hopefully they can take that with them and let them
inspire their lives to to change and to see things
or offer things in a different way, because there are
so many low vibrational people in the world, you know,
(45:29):
and one high change, you know, can change the vibration
grid if you will. So you know, it's it's important
to just do what you can at any moment in
time for somebody because you're helping the collective vibration, which
I know that you're fully aware of.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
So I'm incredibly fully aware of that. So you are
coming to the event that we're doing it Hot and Lake, Yeah,
in Michigan, in central Michigan, right at the heart Holton
Lake is right if if Michigan has a heart, that's
right there at Holton Lake. And we're doing an event
(46:11):
that will involve meditation. It's a spiritual retreat that we're
doing at the end of April. If anybody that's watching
and it is in that area and wants to attend
and get to meet you, are you going to be
able to be available to do readings for anybody that
I can't? You know, can do that and you know,
(46:32):
bring that real with you.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It's time to do that.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, And and there will be eating and making merry.
And I only drink coke and you know sweet tape,
but you know still it's I don't like alcohol. I can't.
My body will not even accept it. My body is like,
don't you even you know? So I'm not a drinker.
(46:59):
I got a nice bit fat glass eyes right here.
But yeah, we will be up late. We will be
doing some circles and some calling in of the galactic family.
Not that I call them like they come when I
call them, because they're already here, but they will make
(47:20):
their presence known. I will make some formal introductions. It
will be so much light and love. We won't need
cars to leave. We can just levitate. When the event
is over, and it's the last weekend of April. Anybody
wants to know about it, please contact either the Lakeside
Resort in Houghton Lake or deb Darus at Mystical Awakenings.
(47:46):
She also has a show here on KGRA, I believe
on Thursday nights. I should know that right off the
top of my head. I've been her guest many times.
I'm going to turn her on to you. I'm going
to introduce the two of you and let her explore
she does a lot of what you do as well.
There will be so many it's it's just it's got
(48:09):
I need this, okay, Tom, Let me just say it's
really all about me and my personal healing and how
I need to be with these beautiful, spiritually enlightened souls
that will lift me up and make me feel a
whole lot better and put their hands on me and
so that I can suck the energy out of all
(48:29):
of your bodies. Are you okay with that?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
That's my That's what I'm most excited about.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Excellent, because you know what the energy can always make more.
So just give me what I need to see you
in person and wrap you in my arms. And I'm
so grateful that you joined me on the show tonight.
I know an hour can go by very fast. It did,
It did it won't be. It was your first appearance,
(49:00):
it will not be your last. And we'll get together
again after the event and do like a group thing
on a world Awakening where we can share our experiences.
We'll gab On and Jamila and you know some of
the other people that are running this sponsoring this event.
And so that's when folks will see you next on
(49:22):
a world awakening, probably the first weekend, the first Friday
in May, so you know, put that on your calendar
if you don't mind, eh yah, because I certainly do
intend to be around here in May, this May and
the next and the next and the next. Yes, So
let's do some light and love and healing and sharing
(49:47):
and communicating on a whole different level. Thank you, Thank you,
my dear sweet Tom. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
It's been my honor just being in your presence is
just amazing, and so thank you, Andrea.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I hope everyone has a wonderful night, a wonderful weekend,
And from my heart, I will share what I always say,
because I mean it, Be the change you wish to
see in.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
The world, Be the light that you seek, be the
beacon of hope, carry the torch and know that you
are loved.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Thank you Tom, thank you Bill, thank you all. I
wish you pleasant good night.
Having I have a very special guest tonight, a new friend, somebody.
It's strange. I got a call today from a friend
of mine, an elderly woman who lives in Michigan, who
is a medium, and she told me that somebody has
(00:21):
recently come into my life, a man with crystalline blue eyes,
and that he is part of my tribe, that he
is part of my galactic family, that he is part
of that we've had basically a reunion, and I knew
immediately that it was Tom, and so, without further ado,
(00:45):
I want to introduce this wonderful, extraordinary man to my
beautiful audience because you deserve to know him and love
him the way that I do, and very shortly you
will unders stand why we are so connected. Welcome to
a world awakening. Tom, Hi, Hi Hi.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Such an honor to be here. I'm so thankful for you.
You've been such a presence in my life, and it's
so surreal to be on the show and also just
have you in my life all of a sudden, it's
like it's mind blowing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
One of my favorite things that happens is that my
friends become friends with each other, and my friends choose
who they know I need to befriend they do, and
that's what happened with us. Yeah. No, And I was
(01:42):
just like, you know, when I hear you need to
talk to this man, he totally gets it, you know.
So I knew she was talking about all things metaphysical
and you know, deeply spiritual and your mediumship and all
of that, which is you know, a part of you,
(02:03):
but also all of you simultaneously. You know, your your
macrocosm and your microcosm all wrapped up in one thing.
Energy is everything is energy, and you ride a certain
frequency that I likewise ride, And so it was time
(02:24):
for us to meet. And and then when you started
sharing with me really you know the intricacies of who
you are, what is integral to you, tom Owen, You know,
all I could think of is, oh my god. She
(02:45):
was so right, Oh my God. And the eyes and
we're from the same place. And I just knew it immediately.
And so if you wouldn't mind, rather than me doing it,
I don't you tell our audience about your history and
you know what brought you here to this point where
(03:09):
your gift is able to help so many other people,
and what brought you to this what was your point
of enlightenment and understanding about who you were, where you
came from, why you are here, and what you're supposed
to do.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
All right, Well, I came into my abilities or gifts
or however you want to look at it. In twenty
eighteen I got sober. And I was a pretty bad
alcoholic for three or four years before that, and I
always kind of drank, so it was always something that
(03:47):
I feel like now I kind of see it as
now I know I was deadening my my gifts and
abilities and awareness because I just didn't think I could
handle it. But I wasn't aware of that at the time.
But in twenty eighteen kind of hit rock bottom. I
was planning on checking out, really honestly, and my dog
stopped me, which was a beautiful experience and I'll always
(04:08):
love him for that. And then once I started, you know,
got sober, and I was, you know, kind of plateaued
and I was stable and all of that, I just
started feeling like, sobriety was more than I had anticipated
because I was like picking up on energies and like
hearing people's thoughts and I didn't really know what to
(04:31):
do about that, and so I thought, oh, maybe I'll
get a reading from like a psych medium, because maybe
they could. You know, I don't like, I don't even
want the reading. I just wanted to know what's going
on with me. And at that time I had looked
up Sarah Lemos. Are you familiar with her at all?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And so I was gonna seek up reading out with her,
and then all of a sudden I saw that she
offered a year long course and you know, kind of
psychic abilities. It's called Pathways to Spirit and it's a
wonderful course, a buffet of learning, shoppers and crystals and
astro travel and just so many great things. And Sarah
it's just a wonderful human being and honestly changed my life.
(05:11):
And so I did that and I got sick during
the middle of that course and I had to have
like a I had to have surgery. And she was like,
I'm starting a mediumship class and I feel like you
should be part of it. And I was like, well,
you know, I just had surgery. I can't really afford
all of that. She's like, my GUIDs are telling me
that you're a medium and that you need to do this,
(05:32):
and I was like okay, and She's like, so I'm
just going to give you the class and I was like, okay.
And after that, I started taking the mediumship class and
I immediately started getting information and I was beside myself
because I didn't know I had this ability. So yeah,
(05:53):
and it just kind of grew from there. And then
I studied under Lisa Williams. I'm being a certified spiritual advisor,
and I just kind of put myself out professionally. I've
been doing this for four years now, and you know,
you kind of just have to put yourself out there
and experience all the different you know, segues in different
(06:15):
alleyways of what mediumship looks like and with different people
and you know, different vibrations and so I feel like
that's the best school.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So after that, you know, I've kind of just been
studying on my own. And you know, now meditating with
Rupert that has really changed the way that I changed
the meditation game, you know, dumped it on its head
because it was just I mean, he's just fantastic with
(06:45):
meditation in general, but you know, connecting with you know,
the beings, you know, and doing that meditation that you
know went back to when you were thirteen years old.
That that really that really changed changed the way I
saw meditation, and just I kind of was the inevitable
(07:06):
next step for me, I believe. So you are definitely
part of that as well. And so I don't know,
you've just been everywhere for me. And it's such a
joy to speak to you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh, you're so wonderful and so kind. I know, I
feel like we're really you know, maybe approaching it from
different ways, but we have the same message. And it's
a very simple message, and it's about love and kindness
(07:36):
and respect and you know, being pure of heart and
generous of spirit, and you know, all the stuff that's
considered the fluff of this new age, you know, for
lack of a better term, right, The thing I find
(07:58):
most fascinating about it is that these concepts are as
old age as it gets. Yeah, it's not new. Nothing
that you're saying, or I'm saying, or many many others
are saying that are considered to be spiritual teachers or
you know, enlightened in some way that we're able to
(08:22):
impart information to others, you know, certain in born wisdom
or you know, whatever whatever you call it. I just
can't imagine living any other way. And for me, this
all came to the surface as a very young child,
(08:44):
before we ever moved to the old haunted farmhouse. I
knew there was something very very different about me, and
I tried really hard to hide that because I didn't
want to be shunned or ridiculed or belittled or you know.
I mean, I got thrown out of Catholic Church for
(09:07):
asking too many questions, you know, get out. But we
don't need your kind here. You're supposed to just accept
it as we tell you, memorize this that you go,
you know. And yeah, so in that respect, perhaps a
bit of a rebel rouser, but nonetheless to me what
(09:30):
you do and being able to connect and know that
you're hearing something that's real. You know, my dear friend
Chip Coffee, he gets you know, I'll get a call
in the middle of the night from him every now
and then. You know, your sister is giving me a message.
(09:53):
I'm supposed to give it to you right away, you know,
and it's like it's eleven o'clock at night, Chip, Okay,
all right, So it's just it's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I got I got a call today now from I
got a call a few weeks ago from a friend
of mine, Kristin, that's up in a medium up in
the up who uh called me out of the blow
just to tell me that the one question that I had,
the answer is yes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The question that I had was when my mother passed away,
did she and April reunite? I wanted to know that
they were together foreshore and the phone rings and it's
Kristen telling me your mother wants your mom said yes, yes,
I'm sure there. You know it's it's it's really amazing
(10:54):
that you can do, which you know, I don't even
I don't even know about mediumship. I mean to me,
I think if there's one medium in the world, then
everyone has the innate ability. Whether or not they nurture
it and bring it to the surface is entirely upon them.
(11:16):
But I think that if there's one psychic, then everybody
has the ability to be psychic. But like in much
the way that you did. I have often found that
people who start to display this ability, usually coming into
middle age is when it tends to surface, have spent
(11:39):
a good long period of time of their lives trying
to suppress what they didn't understand that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And the public conditioning of you know what, they kind
of they you know, teach us to defensitize ourselves and
not listen to certain things that we are listening to
a psychic medium. So you know, it's just about, I guess,
unconditioning your brain to go back to the state that
(12:08):
you were supposed to be in.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So when you embraced your gifts, did they increase exponentially
because of that, because of your acceptance of it?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, it was kind of like flying into spaceship, honest,
because it's just like I don't know, you know, I
didn't know I could do psychometry. I didn't know I
could do remote viewing, you know, all of these things
when you set your mind to it and you're able
to test these dimnations out. Yeah, it's an interesting thing
(12:42):
what you finally realized what you can do and like
how powerful you are, and like stepping into your power
is not something I was really anticipating. Knowing my purpose
or stepping into my power and mediumship has really helped
me grow as a person. And you know, finally having
a purpose at least, you know, I feel like that
(13:02):
that's my purpose in life.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
To to discover that and know it and to live
it is I'm thankful as a human being to have
experienced this, you know, and to.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It is liberating. To it is liberating to understand what
your your role is and you know, and the Grand
Master Plan and feel really comfortable in your own skin
for the first time, you know. I tell people all
the time, I am certain I was born on the
island of misfit twice. I am absolutely certain of it.
(13:33):
And that, you know, that's where my clan is. You know,
all the weirdos and the misfits and and the vagabonds
that roam this world with a billion different ideas going
on in their head at the same time, and and
all of these visions, and you know, the seekers and
(13:54):
the seers and the oracles of the world, and you know,
the the metaphysical journey that we're all on. I think
that once you accept that what's happening to you with
not only your intuitive ability to you know, to read
the room as it were, but to be able to
(14:18):
communicate that, to have the courage to not only accept it,
but then to put yourself out there so that you
can open up that line of communication. You know, almost
in the shape of a triangle between whoever is up
there that's trying to communicate down here, and you become
(14:39):
the conduit. And it is empowering and it is beautiful.
It's also humbling as hell.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Absolutely every time I do a reading, n Ie mean,
I feel like I'm a little healed more just facilitating
that and being so close to spirit and hearing the
healing and feeling healing that's transpiring between the spirit and
their loved one. It's magical, you know. It's like reminds
(15:09):
us of like who we are and what we're really doing,
you know what I mean, and what's really important, and
I just I you know, I don't ever get sick
of finding that reminder. Just absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, now we're going to take a quantum leap in consciousness,
whether you're ready or not.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
When we first got in contact, you one day sent
me a message. You had a question about extraterrestrials, about
our galactic family. You felt like there was some connection,
but you didn't know exactly what it was. You're a
little nervous about exploring that you were, you know, And
then we talked about it at length, as I recall,
(15:56):
and then within a day or two, I started receiving
photog I don't know, I guess snapshots from your iPhone.
And you asked me, you know, basically, is that what
I think that is? And I said, well, you know,
you've made their introduction, they know who you are. They're
(16:19):
going to make their presence known to you now because
you've been in contact with me and I'm your conduit.
And you were blown away by that. I was, are
you really? I was going to ask, you know, have
you kind of started to come to terms with it?
Have you? You know, are you seeing more? Are you
(16:40):
looking up? Are you engaging in a very meaningful way?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Definitely looking up more. I think you just kind of
have to retrain yourself to look up because there's so
much happening, but we're just so focused on our ground
level that we missed so much.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I feel them. I feel them around. I almost feel
like the energies around like I feel you know, I
feel my guides and I feel you know, loved ones
around me, that kind of thing. But I also now
feel them, which is interesting because I almost feel like
they're right here with me versus like you know what
I mean. I feel like they're they're like in my
(17:20):
around my house, around me, you know what I mean,
And so adjusting to those energies is exciting. And also,
you know, I think in tandem with the world being
the way that it is, I feel so much more
comforted now with feeling that presence. It just feels safer.
(17:40):
For some reason, it feels I don't know, I just
feel a lot of love well.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And in a way, you are being protected, and it's
important for you to know that that you are being protected,
that that your acknowledgement of them and your connection with
me as spontaneous and yet profound as it is, it
(18:08):
is as it was, as it will be throughout time
as we spend time together. I will see you this
year in Michigan. I'm so excited about that. I'm so
thrilled because then I get to broaden your horizons even
more and expand your circle even more. As I introduce
(18:33):
you to everyone that's at this singular event, I want
you to know that you are supported. You are being
supported in your desire to do as much good in
(18:55):
the world as you can possibly do. And I was
given a message before we did the show tonight, and
I you know, I don't know how this pertains to
you specifically, but the message that I was given by
(19:15):
them when I was outside real quick quickly was tell
Tom to forgive himself.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That resonates deeply. It's I mean, it's what I'm working
on in therapy right now. So you know that's definitely
hits the head on the nail there.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, it's the nail on the head.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Oh yeah, that's what it is. I said that, and
I was like, that was wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I know. I love it when I'm verbally dyslexic too,
makes me laugh at myself.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Right, so often we get them, you know, all messed up.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, you know, it's the thing about I think that
the road to redemption and enlightenment is paved with the
golden stones of forgiveness. Not just forgiveness for others, which
we really don't do it for them. We do it
(20:13):
to release the burden that we carry when we hold
a grudge against someone else, knowing deep inside that most
likely they were doing the best that they could. And
we all fuck up at one point or another. We
all do, We make mistakes. We are human there, at
least partially in my case for sure, Yeah, threw things up, okay.
(20:45):
But the thing about forgiveness is the release. And it's
like I tell folks all the time, you need to.
You have got to lay that baggage down on the
side of the road. I don't care if it's Louis Vitan.
(21:05):
Lay it down, leave it there. Someone will come along
and pick it up and put it to good use.
Just leave it. Leave your pain and your sorrow and
your guilt and your shame and all of the things
emotions that burden us because of the mistakes that we've
(21:29):
made and the regrets that we have, and put them
in a nice piece of luggage and just lay it
down on the road and keep walking. And you will
discover immediately what Jeff and I were talking about in
this old school tonight, the incredible lightness of being Tom,
(21:52):
the incredible lightness of being Annie. Let it go, Let
it be. And it is that easy and that difficult
to just change your mind, just side, to change your
mind and say, you know what time to move on.
(22:15):
I've made amends everywhere that I know how to, in
every way I know how to. And you know, either
the universe accepts the apology or not. But with the
best of intentions, I now move forward having learned my
lessons well, and it really is. It's freedom. It's freedom
(22:38):
and it's light. And in order for you to do
what you do to the highest level, you have to
shed that weight. So that as I had to, I
had to forgive myself. I did because I've made some
mistakes in life that I would do anything to go
(23:03):
back and redo it and not say a certain thing
or not do a certain thing. But then the more
you reflect on that in meditation or prayer or whatever
you understand, you get to a point of revelation where
you understand that every single thing that happened to you
(23:24):
in your life is what formed you into what you
are right now in this moment, here and now, and
that if it happened any other way, you would not
be who or where you are right now. It doesn't mean,
you know, I'm about destiny and fate. I believe in
(23:46):
free will. You know. I believe that we have the
right to choose to make mistakes, sometimes deliberately because we
think it's in our own best interest and we know
it's not a good idea, but we do it anyway
because we think that ultimately the outcome will behoove us
to uh, you know, feel gratified that a desire was
(24:09):
met or whatever all of that. And what I will
say to you is for you to enhance and maximize
your gifts, you have to release whatever burdens you and
you can just simply decide to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Interesting. I like that. Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely working
on that. I've been in therapy for late two years
and you know, just going through the past and like
with a fine tooth comb and trying to really look
at spaces within my soul of where I you know,
may have swept things under the rug or you know,
any of that. So, you know, and I do this
(24:51):
because I want to be the best that I can
be for others.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So well, you're a complicated person, yeah, you know you are.
You're a complicated person that comes with you know, it
would just have been you know, ultimately, it would have
just been so much easier for you to deny and
shun your gifts rather than to embrace them. Do you
(25:15):
feel that your clients, you know, those that reach out
to you for readings and that type of thing, do
you feel when you are with them? And I'm just
doing this for a little bit of comparative analysis, because
I know a lot of people that are psychics or
you know, are connected in some way very either intuitive
(25:38):
or empaths or you know whatever. And our vernacular has
expanded so much over the years. But you know, do
you feel a connection while you're doing the reading that
that touches you viscerally? I mean, do you feel well,
(26:00):
is there any kind of a distance between you And
I'm not talking physical distance. I mean, I'm sure you
have to do some readings not in person but over
computers and stuff, But do you feel them and their
reaction to what you're telling them? I mean, how engaged
are you in the process or are you just passing
(26:23):
on a message?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Uh? Yes, I'm just I am passing on the message.
But oftentimes I can feel the emotion behind the message,
which then kind of draws me in on a personal level.
Not that I let that get within the reading, but
you know, you feel the messages that they're getting are
just so beautiful that I can't help but get emotional,
(26:49):
you know, and I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm crying. You know,
this is not you know, it's just and they understand
because they're so moved as well. But I mean, it
doesn't happen very often, but you know, I also find
that sometimes when I'm doing readings and the message that's
coming through for the person is also a message for me.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, so what's my next question?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So you know, there's a lot for me to ponder
and like sit with, you know, even after reading, you know,
because I always feel like there is something in there
that I can take and put in my back pocket,
you know, and even if it's not for myself, it
could be for one of my clients, you know, So
I always am trying to investigate what's offered.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
For sure. So do you sometimes get messages from your
own loved ones, you know, members of your family perhaps,
or ancestors that have passed messages of support and encouragement.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Absolutely. I always loved my grandfather, and you know I
was always around him, but you know, I was young
and he was old, and you know we weren't like
connected on a human to human level so much as
like a grandfather to a grandson.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And so.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Once I kind of established my mediumship, he kind of
came in pretty early on, and you know he told me,
you know, I'm sorry for you know, not understanding not
understanding you and your life and what you've been through,
and he you know, and now he had that understanding
and and he just really wanted to make sure that
(28:39):
I knew. And that was you know, incredibly special. You know,
I think, you know, the whole the whole reason this
started was my grief from my mother's passing. And so
this is my grief and action in a sense. And
so she always, you know, comes by, and you know,
and it's always really special. I mean it's only probably
(29:00):
be about like once every six months or so, but
she comes by and I can just feel it, like
it's like electricity in the air. And you know, I think,
of course I'll always miss her. But my sadness is
so different now that I have communication, you know, and
in my grief, it looks so much different after having communication.
(29:20):
And you know, because of even that, I want other
people to have that experience and know that they can
do it, and I want them to you know, I
may be able to facilitate messages, but I really want
them to know that they can do this on their
own and that they don't need me, and you know,
leave people better than I found them.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, Yeah, it's incredibly comforting. That's you know what I
have found for people incredibly comforting. I have, you know,
having been connected to and exposed to the existence of
spirit at such a young age, fundamental until he changed
(30:01):
my perspective on life and death and the afterlife. And
I do occasionally have a visitation or a message for
someone else. Normally, though, don't get it through spirit. I
get it through the galactic family, like the message for
(30:22):
you that came from a very specific place with a
very specific reason. But every now and then I will
have a spirit reach out and reach through and just
usually not say anything. I don't really hear in my
(30:44):
head voice spirits voices usually, but I do sense a
very strong presence, not always easily identifiable, until there is
some action that occurs with it, and then oh there
(31:07):
she is. There, she is right there, here she is,
and and it is it. It brings me joy. So
I understand, Tom, I mean, you used that word in
one of our initial conversations about how what you do
now brings you joy, not just your clients but for
(31:29):
you as well, which is why I wanted to explore, Like,
how emotionally invested you get, right?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I get pretty I mean I get invested with them
because I care about humans, and I you know, and
I care about my community, and I care about you know,
helping people in their pain, and so you know, I
try to keep obviously professional lines, but you know, I
can't help but feel motion when someone can put down
(32:02):
their grief and you know, and to watch them do
that and to feel that lightness, to feel that shift.
I mean, there's nothing like it. There's nothing like it
in the world. It's just it's so powerful, and you know,
you can't help feel emotion towards that, as you know,
an EmPATH and as a person that can feel the
(32:22):
other person and just all of it. It's it's pretty encompassing.
But I definitely feel I feel like it changes me
emotionally for myself too, because it brings me back to
center about my life and and you know, and it's
always kind of just a reminder like don't get caught
(32:43):
up and you know too much, because what's really important
is is caring for each other and loving each other.
Love is the important thing, and you know that, so
you know it all it's.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
A reset of your moral compass to true north, you know.
Every time. I mean, my sister Christine today went over
to do the grocery shopping, and you know, I don't
go out munch. I have to be very careful not
to interact with people, especially while you know, flew and
everything is just wildfire. I running rampant in Georgia, so
(33:16):
I'm having to be rather reclusive staying them. And she
went out. She went shopping today, and I always tell her,
you know, expect. She tells me to expect a miracle.
I tell her to watch for earth angels. And today
when she went shopping, she made her rounds. She cashed out,
(33:38):
She went and loaded everything into her car. She looked
all around her, all around her to make sure she
wasn't backing out. She got a big ass car, and
she just got to be careful. She's not backing out
into anybody that's coming and going. And she looked, and
she looked, and she looked, and she put it in
reverse and she started backing out, and all of a sudden,
(34:00):
a woman just appeared on the side of her car,
and she slammed on the brakes and panicked, thinking, oh
my god, you know, I'm did I like almost hit her.
And she opened her door and she said, I'm so
sorry I didn't see you. I didn't see you. And
the woman said, but I've been here all along, and
she handed her a beautiful bouquet of flowers. Oh my goodness,
(34:25):
and Christine's like, these are for me. And the woman said.
She was an elderly woman, she was short, she had
a big had of gray hair, and her winter coat on.
It was freezing cold, and she had and she had
nothing else in her hands. And she handed this bouquet
(34:47):
of beautiful, fresh cut flowers to my sister and told
her that she is blessed and walked away. And Chris
came home. She's like, Ann, you are not going to
believe this. You are not going to believe what just
happened to me today in the parking lot of public supermarket.
(35:09):
And she told me. And I just looked at her
and I said, they're everywhere, those Earth angels, they're everywhere,
you know. She's like, nothing like this has ever happened
to me in my life, you know, And I said, well,
maybe today was the day it deserved it most.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Just trying to get her attention, to get her refocus
on love and knowing that they're sending bigger at play. Yeah,
it's just I mean, how cool. And you wonder of that,
and that's even cooler.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It's this thing called life is a cornucopia of delight. No,
it's one of the reasons that I wanted to ask
you about your your interaction and your connection with your
clients during your readings. There's a very specific reason that
(36:09):
I want to ask you for that, because I'm sure
that your intuition is just you know, like going off
like ding ding ding ding ding. You know, you're picking
up on stuff and in a way kind of integrating
with your client as you're passing through those messages and
(36:30):
sharing that energy and that association for the length of
time that you're involved in the reading. But are you
aware as it's happening, Are you aware you had used
a moment a moment ago of the word. You can
(36:52):
sense and feel the shift that takes place, and it
is a paradigm shift. It is you know when you're first,
especially if you've never been consciously touched by spirit before,
not that you haven't been unconsciously or subconsciously touched, but
where you know that something has just happened that changes everything,
(37:15):
your understanding of spirit, an expansion of your notion of
life and death and an after life expands. You can't.
It's like, you know, the expanding universe. You can't shrink
it back down. You can't unthink, unlearned, unfeel, unhere, unno
(37:38):
what you've just experienced, especially when you are so precise
that the client knows instantly who the message is coming
from now? And does that for lack of a does
it bring you like a higher level of joy something
(38:03):
that I describe as higher love, like a higher level,
not like mortal love, like you know, I love that
TV show and I love my nephew and you know,
I mean yeah, but like a more spiritually advanced quantum
leap in love. Do you feel that? And if you do,
(38:28):
does it grow you?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I do feel that, and yes it does grow me.
It's kind of miraculous the shift that happens when you
are witnessing that, and you know, like you said, being
a paradigm shift in that moment and expanding consciousness and
(38:53):
expanding a person's viewpoint. You know, you get a few
of those, a handful of those moments as a human
being in general. But to be able to do it
on the regular and be side by side with those
with those experiences, yeah, I mean, and influences my life,
I feel like, you know, of course, I try to
(39:15):
be as relatable as possible to people and connect how
I can. But I just see love and connection and
this overall, you know, these souls all being together and
all having these love cords together, you know what I mean,
Like if we could just stop and understand how much
(39:36):
love there is versus how much division there is, and
so having those reminders, Yeah, it makes me want to
propel that love in front of everybody that I meet,
so that they have an experience of feeling loved that day,
you know, to feel seen, to feel connection, And I
just think it's so important to take that love that
(39:59):
I'm experiencing and share that. It's just it's what I'm
here to do.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
It is, and I know, I think one of the
other reasons that we're here is that it's your job,
and my job, and the job of many others to
be the antidote to this toxic disease that has spread
around the globe, that mindset that creates a constant conflict.
(40:34):
One mindset being we are all one family, we are
all in this together. The other mindset being all for me,
the rest of you are on your own. Yeah, And
as long as human beings have found that there's power
(40:55):
in engendering fear, as long as greed prevails, as long
as the phrase where interest lies, honor dies is particularly
poignant to me at this point, at this point in
(41:16):
my life, I've seen too much. I know that it
is a chronic condition of humanity. And I think that
part of your job, and part of my job, and
so many others, is to infuse, instill, and maybe even
(41:36):
reinstall in our hard drive the notion of empathy. What
does that word mean, simply put, the ability to put
yourself in the position of another and feel their pain.
(41:56):
And I think that part of the reason why humanity
is as not as a whole by any stretch, but
partially forsaken, the idea of nurturing that human emotion and
shunning it, is because it's painful. It is painful, and
(42:22):
it's just easier to be solitary and in that respect,
somewhat unapproachable. And it's easier not to feel compassion and
grief and witness the pain of others and feel it yourself.
(42:44):
It's just easier to shut that down, to drink it away,
to smoke it away, to self medicate it away one
way or another, and many of us that have worked
in this field and tried to impart what our gifts are,
(43:08):
our information are, our wisdom, what we have learned, what
we have experienced and passed that on. The only reason
that we're where we are is because, no matter how painful,
we allow ourselves to absorb it and process it and
(43:30):
feel it for others, which is why so many of
us are so prone to grief, sadness, and depression very much,
and a lot of anxiety, a lot of anxiety. And
so it's really hard to live in the real world
(43:51):
when you're not comfortable in three D where it doesn't
it doesn't compute, it doesn't make sense using, it's contradictory,
it's rhetorical, and it's vitriolic, and it's it's duality at
(44:12):
its worst. And so I think that what you do
by providing these readings for your clients is you're opening
their hearts up, not just their third eye, but their
hearts so that they feel the pain of that loss
(44:34):
but also feel the comfort of getting a message from
the person who's loss devastated them. Does that make sense.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Or am I just absolutely you know, opening the heart
to remind them of the love that is there and
never went away, but you know, human mind makes them
think that that's not there anymore. And so you have
that recognition of love, love that you've known, you know,
love that that is part of you. It changes people.
(45:08):
It changes people, It gets them out of it gets
them out of their slump. And then, you know, and
hopefully they can take that with them and let them
inspire their lives to to change and to see things
or offer things in a different way, because there are
so many low vibrational people in the world, you know,
(45:29):
and one high change, you know, can change the vibration
grid if you will. So you know, it's it's important
to just do what you can at any moment in
time for somebody because you're helping the collective vibration, which
I know that you're fully aware of.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
So I'm incredibly fully aware of that. So you are
coming to the event that we're doing it Hot and Lake, Yeah,
in Michigan, in central Michigan, right at the heart Holton
Lake is right if if Michigan has a heart, that's
right there at Holton Lake. And we're doing an event
(46:11):
that will involve meditation. It's a spiritual retreat that we're
doing at the end of April. If anybody that's watching
and it is in that area and wants to attend
and get to meet you, are you going to be
able to be available to do readings for anybody that
I can't? You know, can do that and you know,
(46:32):
bring that real with you.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It's time to do that.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, And and there will be eating and making merry.
And I only drink coke and you know sweet tape,
but you know still it's I don't like alcohol. I can't.
My body will not even accept it. My body is like,
don't you even you know? So I'm not a drinker.
(46:59):
I got a nice bit fat glass eyes right here.
But yeah, we will be up late. We will be
doing some circles and some calling in of the galactic family.
Not that I call them like they come when I
call them, because they're already here, but they will make
(47:20):
their presence known. I will make some formal introductions. It
will be so much light and love. We won't need
cars to leave. We can just levitate. When the event
is over, and it's the last weekend of April. Anybody
wants to know about it, please contact either the Lakeside
Resort in Houghton Lake or deb Darus at Mystical Awakenings.
(47:46):
She also has a show here on KGRA, I believe
on Thursday nights. I should know that right off the
top of my head. I've been her guest many times.
I'm going to turn her on to you. I'm going
to introduce the two of you and let her explore
she does a lot of what you do as well.
There will be so many it's it's just it's got
(48:09):
I need this, okay, Tom, Let me just say it's
really all about me and my personal healing and how
I need to be with these beautiful, spiritually enlightened souls
that will lift me up and make me feel a
whole lot better and put their hands on me and
so that I can suck the energy out of all
(48:29):
of your bodies. Are you okay with that?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
That's my That's what I'm most excited about.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Excellent, because you know what the energy can always make more.
So just give me what I need to see you
in person and wrap you in my arms. And I'm
so grateful that you joined me on the show tonight.
I know an hour can go by very fast. It did,
It did it won't be. It was your first appearance,
(49:00):
it will not be your last. And we'll get together
again after the event and do like a group thing
on a world Awakening where we can share our experiences.
We'll gab On and Jamila and you know some of
the other people that are running this sponsoring this event.
And so that's when folks will see you next on
(49:22):
a world awakening, probably the first weekend, the first Friday
in May, so you know, put that on your calendar
if you don't mind, eh yah, because I certainly do
intend to be around here in May, this May and
the next and the next and the next. Yes, So
let's do some light and love and healing and sharing
(49:47):
and communicating on a whole different level. Thank you, Thank you,
my dear sweet Tom. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
It's been my honor just being in your presence is
just amazing, and so thank you, Andrea.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I hope everyone has a wonderful night, a wonderful weekend,
And from my heart, I will share what I always say,
because I mean it, Be the change you wish to
see in.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
The world, Be the light that you seek, be the
beacon of hope, carry the torch and know that you
are loved.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Thank you Tom, thank you Bill, thank you all. I
wish you pleasant good night.
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