July 18, 2025 • 54 mins
Who among us hasn't said some version of this famous line from the film Splash? ALL of us can relate to navigating the treacherous river of life, riddled with obstacles lurking beneath the surface. Another famous line: "When you are going through hell, keep going." A unique human trait, our ability to demonstrate strength, courage and perseverance during difficult times is an admirable attribute, but what choice do we have? We can crash on the rocks or sail on with determination. And should we get tossed overboard, we can always flip over and float, allowing the current to carry us as we recover. Deb DeRousse joins me for an inspirational hour of revelations about our latest week from hell.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Ah, good evening everyone, Thank you so much for joining
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us on a world awakening. Deb Da Russ, my star sister,
my sweet dear Blay Andrea, my beloved is joining me
for the evening. And you know, we're talking about the
same thing, but different situations, but it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So anybody that didn't have.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
A chance to tap into the title or the description
of tonight's show, I'll give you the heads up here.
The title of our show tonight is what are we
I'm having? And the description who among us hasn't said
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some version of this famous line from the film Splash.
All of us can relate to navigating the treacherous river
of life, riddled with obstacles lurking beneath the surface. Another
famous line, when you are going through hell, keep going
a unique human trait. Our ability to demonstrate strength, courage, resilience,
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and perseverance during difficult times is an admirable attribute.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But what choice do we have. We can crash on
the rocks or sailon with.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Determination, and should we get tossed overboard, we can always
flip over and float, allowing the current to carry us
as we recover. Deb Durus joins me for an inspirational
hour of revelations about our latest week.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
From Amiens sister. Yeah, I keep hearing Dory in my
head from Finding Nemo.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, keep swimming, women, just keep swimming.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yes, yeah, the shark's teeth, you know, nipping at your
at your tail.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So I wanted to apologize to our viewers of this,
you know, just devoted viewers of this show week in
and week out, and we had the show scheduled last
week and you know all of this, I keep you
completely abreast, so to speak, of the situation, my ongoing situation,
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and I had not this past Monday, but the previous Monday,
I had been scheduled for a pet scam, which I
have every three months to chart my progress. And for
the first eleven months since my diagnosis, I had done
remarkably well, and the tumors were shrinking, shrinking, shrinking, some
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completely disappeared. But Christine had some very important business to
attend to that morning, so you know, all brave, I said,
I'll just go by myself.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, it was the first time and only time that
I had ever gone to the hospital complex on my own,
not like you know, I knew how to get there.
That wasn't an issue, where to park, where to go.
I knew all of that, so you know, what did
I have.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
To be afraid of?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And yet when I walked into that building and I
didn't have my sister beside me, I suddenly felt a
wash with vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh just like wow. I felt forsaken.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I felt alone in the midst of dozens and dozens
of people.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
All around me. And I went into the room.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The tech took me in and they gave me the
infusion of the radioactive waste they can scan me with
because it's supposed to light up if there's any new
growth in the tumors. It lights up on the pet
scan and it's called shine. And you know, so I'm there, oh,
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you know shine on Harvest Moon, you know Shine. I'm
like trying to be just uplift myself, you know, not
feel so alone. And I went into the room and
they gave me the infusion, and then they covered me
in warm blankets and reclined my chair and left me
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there alone for forty five minutes, which is standard procedure
so that it can work its way all through my body.
And I broke down and I just I sobbed like
a baby. I just I was so grateful that there
was a full box of tissues in that room and
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there was a button for me to push if I
needed help, but I needed to just cry. For the
first time since my diagnosis that I just wept and
I didn't know why. But everything went fine. The scan
went fine. I came home and was exhausted, so I
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laid down and I took a nap. And that Wednesday morning,
Christine and I went into the hospital to my oncologist's
office and when she walked into the room, she wasn't
smiling the way she was she would normally smile, and
we were you know, I got up, I embraced her, and.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
She said, okay, I need you to have a seat.
We have to talk. And I was like, I don't
like the sound of that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And that's when she informed me that the cancer had
begun to return with a vengeance and that it was
fighting back and that we were going to have to
immediately change my chemotherapy to another therapy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Christine was devastated. She didn't say a word.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I heard her gasp sitting beside me, and she didn't
say a word. And doctor Knight told me the bad news,
and then she told me the good news, and that is,
after more than eleven months of making absolutely remarkable progress
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on my original chemotherapy, it had suddenly stopped working.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And she told me that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
One year to the day prior to my visit on Wednesday,
a drug had been approved by the FBFDA that targets
a specific marker in cancer, marker that had been discovered
in my blood.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Never once in.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
All the blood tests and all the genetic tests and
all everything that I've been through, never once had a
marker for cancer emerged anywhere, Like I didn't have the disease,
like it was somehow a figment of my imagination. There
was no physiological marker in my body to identify cancer,
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and now suddenly.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
There was, and.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
There was a drug that would attack it, target it.
And the way she put it was, we've been riding
blind on a road along road, just hoping for the best,
and we got some great success out of the original drug.
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But now we have a detour sign for a path
and it's road less traveled. It's a very specific immunotherapy
coupled with chemotherapy, and it targets this particular really unusual
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type of cancer specifically, and it suffocates it. It does
not allow it to reproduce. It can't make the babies.
So everything has a natural life cycle, and if it
cannot reproduce itself, then the cells will just naturally run
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their cycle and die without recreating themselves in another more
expansive form by multiplying. And so she explained all of
this to us, and meanwhile, Christine's just sitting there, like
you know, we're looking at all the paperwork and everything,
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and just like you know, she shows me the name
of the drug, which is literally unpronounceable, and I said, well,
I just looked at her and I said, so, what
you're telling me is that this is a blessing in disguise,
and this marker emerging in my bloodline is now a
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gift and an act of divine intervention. And she said yes,
I would prefer to think of it that way too,
And she looked at me and she said, you know,
miracles happen every day, every day, and I said, yep,
I know it. So when do we start? And She's like,
we start today. And so I had to go down
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to the infusion center and I got my pill form
the pill form of the medication, and then I had
to go to the infusion center, and so we were
there for about four hours total. And Chris was very
very quiet on the way home, and I said, I know,
this seems like very very bad news, but it's actually
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really good news.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You just have to, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Look at it from this perspective instead of hearing the
cancer has returned. Here's how we're going to kill it.
And the other drug couldn't do that and this one can.
And I'm tolerating it remarkably well. And I had to
go back to the hospital today this morning after doing
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coast to coast from three to five am, I slept
for an hour and a half, got up, took a shower,
got in the car, and drove down to the hospital
to do.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It all over again.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And you know, and I feel my spirit is lifted
and I feel more hopeful than I have in a
long time. But long story short, this is my apology
for why we suddenly did not do our shows that
were scheduled for last and we canceled them suddenly because
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Bill said, nope, you need dressed, Nope, you need dressed.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And so we'll do reruns.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'll go see Superman and you take it easy and
we'll come to get other next week. And in the interim,
you had a situation which in a way mirrored my own.
You know, there was a crisis that you were facing,
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and we haven't been able to be in touch much
because your attention has been fully focused, as it should be,
on your husband. But you at least were kind enough
to put something out on Facebook so that people knew
what was going on.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And I couldn't find the words yet.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I mean, I had to process this sudden change in direction.
And you know, so we've been in touch a little bit.
But you know, why don't you share your week from hell?
Now that I've shared my week from Hell? And well,
it it helps.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
People to know.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It helps people to know that we're all going through something.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, well it's actually been two weeks from how because
I can tell you now when I got your news,
you let me know immediately I did. I told Bill,
I just I'm not dealing with this. Well, it rocked
my world.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I was terribly upset. I sobbed, I.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Prayed, I went right to my knees because damn it,
I'm not going to lose you.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
This world needs you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And then I you know, after about a day two
days of doing this, I started getting she's going to
pull through this. Keep the faith, Keep the faith, because
I'm always the one to say stay positive, no negative thoughts.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But I love you so deeply, and I loved you
so deeply.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We're one orre, so you know that connection is so
very strong. So my real turning point was when you called,
because I think you just sensed that dev has to
hear my voice and we were able to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Thank you for doing that. I love you.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I am now totally one thousand percent positive that you're
not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm not. So this earth needs you, it really needs you. Yeah,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But I do want to put out there speaking of Facebook,
that Tom Owen, bless his heart, he's such a wonderful,
wonderful man. Wonderful man has started a group called Andrea's Angels,
and you know, everybody can join this and get in
on the healing. There's a healing for you tomorrow evening.
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Although I know that common myself and many of us
are sending at least once twice three times a day,
so we do invite everybody to get in on that
because the collective is powerful, so so powerful. You know,
you've heard about the power of prayer for ever, and
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this is the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's when you get that many.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Souls and minds focused on one positive thing, that's what
you bring to light.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You know, thoughts are things. How often do we say that? Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And when you get the collective doing it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All in a positive way, Andrew is not going anywhere.
So everybody looked at that group up and become a
part of it.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And please send continue sending love, healing and positive thoughts to.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Andrea and our Jay. Thank you, thank you. And now
that being said, r J and I.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Have had a very busy year and had decided we
need a break.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
We just we've worked so hard, there's been so many
things going on. We need a together break. So we
had been planning this past Sunday to head to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
The up to our favorite resort up there in Curtis
where we had our.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Missed CO weekend, and we were going to take three
or four days and just relax, sit by the.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Water fashion yeah yeah, walk in the woods, get our
nature fix and just be together.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
About five we first started with him tearing his rotator
cuff while he was working out lifting weights and so
he was in pain.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The day after doing that, he had a tooth that
went bad. He had to go have that pulled. And
then I started noticing he just wasn't the same. I
could see some poofiness things like that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
While we continued preparing for our week away, and we
were planning on leaving Sunday morning. But Sunday morning, he
got up and said, I can't breathe. So, being the
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hemorrhoid that I am, drives him crazy. I grabbed the
pole socks and the blood pressure cuff and everything because
I know his heart history, and I said, we're not
going to the up yet.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You need to go to the hospital. I could see
that he was in severe a him.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
And could tell that he had congestive heart failure going on.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So he argued with me. Of course he did, said, no,
we have our plan, the cars half packed, blah blah blah. Yeah,
because you know, God forbid you should save his life.
You know exactly exactly, and you know you have to
be respectful to the owner of the cabins. We have
a reservation. You can't just not go. Because he really
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wanted to go. I really wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So long story short, I called nine one one got
him to the hospital, thank god, because he would not
have survived that day.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Had we not gone.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So from Sunday until Wednesday, he was in the hospital
in critical care unit. He was in pretty rough shape.
But between Sunday and today when we saw the cardiologist,
they had pulled off thirty pounds of liquid fluid in
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his body.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So he was drowning. Yes, absolutely, absolutely, he was a mess.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So he's still in rough shape, but he is home.
We spent hours with the cardiologists today. We have a plan.
We're trying to get his heart stronger at the moment
and one step at a time, So in about three
weeks or so, they're going to shock his heart I
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try to get back into rhythm good.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So until then, if people could just send some love
and healing his way, I would be so very grateful.
You know, everybody loves the Wizard.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, and like, like you, we need to keep him around.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yes, yeah, it's been but it's not only us. I mean,
look around look at Texas. Oh my gosh, what they
have been through.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
The I mean I feel guilty even complaining about anything.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, you know, Jeff and I just finished soul school
a few minutes ago, and you know, this is what
we talked about, was letting our vulnerabilities be exposed and revealed,
not just to ourselves but to others, to you know,
bearing our soul that it is actually a purification, it
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is a cleansing, and it also liberates others to have
conversations like we are having. This is what happened to me,
This is what's happening with you and r J. There
is something healing about the energy that we expend so
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much energy internalizing and trying to sequester our vulnerability and
to be strong and to be the picture of grace
in a crisis and you know, to rise above it
and fly above the radar and always be the picture
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of decorum and keep our shit together.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And you know, that's not really what it's about at all.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
The important thing is that we love and trust each
other as beings enough that we can share what we
feel and what we fear. And you know that monster
in the water that's lurking just below the.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Surface, it's just like right there. I know it's right there.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And and I've you know, lectured so many times about
the notion of the river of life and it has
a crazy current and if you happen to fall overboard,
you can flip over and float. And you know that's
where I am now. I got like thrown overboard when
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I got my test results. It was also given a lifeline.
And now RJ has been given a lifeline by removing
that excess fluid from his body, around his heart, his lungs.
It saved him. It saved him. You saved him. And
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you know, there's a beautiful song called Rescue about sending
out an sos.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I will send out an army. You know, I wish
I could sing it, but I'm too choked up to
do that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And we can't play it because then YouTube will you
know fire us.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I don't have I don't have my ASCAP license. Sorry,
But it's called Rescue. You can just google it and
listen to it, and it's it's what we do for
each other. And you know, the main line is I
will rescue you. And that's what we do for each other.
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That's what love does. And that's a whole.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Part of.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And I think a critically important part what taps into
this broadcast a world awakening. When we awaken to our
realization of oneness and our interconnectedness.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Then it's not scary to be vulnerable. It's not scary.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
To expose the deep inner workings of the shadow that
lurks in your soul and let that out, release it,
and you will realize that it's fear. And when you
acknowledge it and embrace it and love it for the
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times that it has helped you, and then release it,
as I told Jeff, and then identify the bully in
the classroom and expel it from soul school, then there's healing.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Involved with that process. It is a part of our
spiritual ascension.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I believe in understanding that we are one, we are
all unique, and yet we are all the same lutely,
you know, it's it's a it's an interesting dichotomy.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's it's an.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Interesting thing about being human is that you know the
old phrase, well, we all cry tears, we all bleed red, you.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Know, and that is true.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And once we no longer feel isolated in our pain
and in our in our worry, in in whatever we're facing,
and come to the understanding that we don't need to
face it alone, then it is liberating. And that liberation
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to share and love each other well is so much
a part of our healing. And the thing that's so
ironic about it was I had to face this crisis
in order to find the shortcut, you know, off the
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well beaten path where we didn't know where we were
going because we didn't have a.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Sign to follow. Now we do, and.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That wouldn't have happened if they didn't detect a shine
on the tumors of the cancer making a resurgence, right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
You know, you had to.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Get the bad news to get the good news, and
it's you know you you had to RJ had to
get the bad news that vacation canceled off to the
hospital and that saved his life.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, and with that it saved my life, yes, absolutely, yeah.
And without you finding the marker, you know, had you
discontinued with the chemo you were in once you once
you called me and explained, okay, here's the positive. Yeah,
that's so we have a marker.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now we never read.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Dark cloud, Yes, yes, so you know we all have
to remember and hold on to that there's there is
always some good that comes out of things.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
We just have to find it.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
And you know, it's okay to cry those tears and
it's okay to fall apart. That's that's why we're here
to share this too. You know, we can all suffer
in silence or we can ease it by doing it together.
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Things are not all that easy right now, I say
the least right, but together we've got this to get
all of it.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
And you know see whats Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Seeing people come together and stand up like Tom who
started that group and starting healing and all of the
things that. You know, one crisis can bring so many
people together.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, really can.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The Twin Towers. I mean back to that when that
happened and how everybody banded together, Yes, and in pure
love say no matter what, we together we have this.
So you know, hopefully we're shedding that light on people
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who are kind of suffering long.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
R yes, and suffering in silence. Far to many suffering
in silence. And it's important that we be here as
you know, we awaken to our purpose, our mission in
this world, which is to love each other powerfula And
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during soul school I read this brief little message somebody
had written to me today.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Wanting to.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Asking me a question about spiritual ascension. And this is
how and what that meant to me, and this is
what I responded in my text to him. I think
we spiritually ascend when we realize that each and every
one of us is a church, a place of worship.
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Once we learned to open the door within our soul,
it's all within us. We are each and every one
of us capable of healing because we are each, in
every one of us, a divine manifestation of the God Consciousness,
the prime Creator.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
We are all part and parcel of the One.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And that's empowering to understand that you are not a
subject of anything. You know, you're not you know, there's
not a king, and you're just a feudal subject. We're
all together in this and it is that singular concept
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that holds within it the seed to the cure of.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
All the discontent in the world.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So there are those among us who spread that word
very effectively. And I sent you a thing a few
weeks ago from a physicist who's also a philosopher, doctor Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I believe his name. Excuse me, honey.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
That's okay, Yes, I remember that, but that Stephen Hawkins.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yes, I don't remember, not Stephen Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I think it was David Hawkins.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And in his research, what he has determined, and he's
done this, you know, with mathematical equations and you know,
studying kinetic energy and you know that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
He's physicists, and.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And he he said that he has determined that one
individual emanating a higher frequency of love and light counteracts
the negative emotions of one hundred and seventy five thousand people.
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Is now incredible, even if that number in actuality is
half ten, you know, even if that's then the antidote
is love. The antidote to.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
All that ails us is love. You know, I'm buttercup.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I've got my little banner on the top that says
I did not come to teach you. I came to
love you. Love will teach you. I will never part
with that. I have assimilated. I don't know who wrote it.
I just stole it off the internet. The incident spoke
to me the instant I saw it years and years ago.
I was like, I'm going to take that and use
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it because it was it spoke to what I feel is,
you know, the embodiment of my soul on this plane
of action, that I am here to express love in
every conceivable way that I can to spread that as
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far and wide as I am able, which is why
I'm so grateful to Bill, and I'm so grateful to
KGRA forgiving me this global forum so that those that
need us find us, and it urgeons, and it grows,
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and it grows, and the message spreads like the proverbial
pebble in the middle of a pond, and the concentric
circles keep going and going and going, because it has
created a center of energy that spreads equidistantly across.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
The body of water.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And even when you don't see the ripples anymore, that
energy is still in motion and spreading and spreading. And that,
my friends, my friends, is our world awakening to our
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own divine being, to our own consciousness, to our own
ability to comprehend the notion that we are part of
a sacred whole. And once we know that, it liberates us,
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it empowers us, and it gives us an ability to
heal others that we touch with that higher frequency. Yes, absolutely,
beautifully said I think I love that, and love is
always always the answer, and that's.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
What we're here for. Like you said, Andrews, you know
we're here to remember because we are soul. You know,
our physical bodies are very individual, our soul bodies are one. Yeah,
And we're here to remember who we are, who we're connected.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
To, where where were from, and how ancient we are.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Absolutely, and that we are connected. And love is the
answer always to every question.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And that in its own, as simple as it sounds,
that is a truly sacred realization. That is, it's really
that simple. Love each other, you know, the golden rue.
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
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It is that simple. We're the ones that complicate everything,
and you know, tend to let our emotions run amok,
and you know, fight over stupid stuff and alien each
other from.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And it doesn't need to be that way. It doesn't
need to be that way. And intrinsic in this conversion
of faith and knowing who we are and why we're
here involves the revelation of forgiveness and reverence and respect
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for all other beings.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Always, except we're not separate from any of those, you know,
we are divine tapestry, absolutely interwoven.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, threads and lights and sparks of light, threads interwoven
into one beautiful piece of art.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I love it so well, said so well, oh, I'm
sure I stole that from somebody's side.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, I still love it, and it's it's so accurate.
And if you think about it, you know, we have
the physical human self with the ego. That's that's where
we screw up as we have. Yeah, yeah, tell ourselves that,
you know, some are better than others and.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
But that's all the physical self, where the soul self
is totally different. But if the soul self doesn't teach
the physical self.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We have problems.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, and that's why humans need human contact.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You know, a baby who has failure to thrive will
literally die without human kind contact. Yes, yes, they have
to have that touch.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
They have to. We all have to.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
That's why we hug, that's why we hold hands, that's
why we kiss.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
That's right, and that's also why you know, one of
our lessons in this life this round.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Was COVID and the only way.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That you could actually express your love and affection and
tenderness for another human being was to stay the hell
away from them.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
It was it was such a difficult couple of years
where we were forced to isolate from each other. And
I always say, thank god the Internet didn't explode.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
When that was the only way we could be together safely.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
No, And I didn't know it at the time, but
I already had cancer. My doctor told me that, based
on how advanced.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
This cancer was upon detection.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
That probably been carrying it in my body for four
years or more. And and I just didn't know it.
And it's like, you know the story of the bumblebee.
Anybody familiar with physics knows that a bumblebee.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Is too fat and too heavy and.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Its wings are too fragile for it to be able
to lift its body and fly, But it doesn't know
it can't fly, so.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It flies anyway.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I love that I had not heard that.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh well, they defy the laws of physics. Yeah, and
so can we, and so can we. Yeah yeah, well,
I mean hostro travel things.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh. I have out of body experiences so regularly. It's
like I'm only visiting when I'm actually here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I know. Yeah, you know, I'm curious how many people
I know.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
When I was young, I knew I could fly, and
I did often, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, Yeah, I've laid and you could just seen stairs
when I was five years old, because I was absolutely
sure that if I just launched myself off those stairs
that I would land on my feet at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I'm really lucky I survived that. My mother, you were
very lucky. I didn't try it. I didn't try it physically,
No I did.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I couldn't push my soul out, which you know, shows
lack of wisdom from an early age.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
But you're so rebellious now. Because I had had a
dream that I was a bird. I mean, it was
so vivid, it was so real, and I it was.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
A huge, a huge raven with a long, black, shiny beak,
and I could see my wings extended on and I
was just a little child, and I was given this
gift of I don't think it was a dream.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
It was something more important than that. And I flew all.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Over around the world.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
And I was just a baby, you know, five years old,
and I flew all around. I saw the Redwood forest
and it's original before we cut a tree down. I
saw I went back in time, and I saw the
world as it was, not as it was when I
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was that age, but as it was a thousand years
before or And but then with having that experience, at
such a young age, and it becoming integral to who
I was. I mean, I just I can still close
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my eyes and like it's just happening again.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
It was. It left an imprint on me that was permanent.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And so after that happened, I was sure that I
had now developed the ability to fly, because I wasn't,
you know, rational yet. I had not reached the age
of consciousness yet. And yeah, my mother told me that
I wasn't allowed to fly until I was older. That's
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how she handled it. So it was dangerous. I couldn't
fly until I was older.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I can get physical, Yeah, but you can still fly
and you did, did see.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
When we're little, we have that knowing and we just
do it.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
We think it's dreams, yes, or something. I don't I
don't remember even trying to figure it out. I just
knew that I could fly places and see things and
it worked. But I did, you know, I've always been
afraid of heights, So I think a past life took
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care of me trying to do it physically.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oh perhaps, Yeah. I didn't hurt myself trying to fly.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I only did it with my consciousness.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Well, you know, little kids are very like they're like
played out.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
We bounce, you know, I mean little kids generally do
bounce right softer.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, that's very true. That's very true.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And I did want to bring up the fact that
I believe it started yesterday.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
We are in mercury retrograde. I know, I've meant to
use my cups. I can't.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Mercury is retrograde. I usually have it with gluffee, but
I'm not allowed to. The next time you see me,
I am going to be significantly smaller because this particular
chemo elevates blood sugar. So I'm having to cut carbohydrates
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out of my diet, which is like, you.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Know, let me just open a vein. What do you mean.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I can't eat half a bag of chocolates while I'm
watching TV, but a half a bag of potato chips. Yeah,
now I can't have to get I know they do
salt and sweet, absolutely perfect combination.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
So yeah, now it's I'm basically going to need to
do the Atkins diet.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
The last time I felt a little fat and fluffy,
and I did the Atkins diet, which I was I
don't know, maybe fifteen twenty years ago, and then I
just stopped caring, but I lost thirty pounds in thirty days,
and so I have to mitigate that. And my doctor said,
you know, now, don't go overboard, because I told her
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that's how my body responds to removing carbohydrates from my system.
And she's like, all we need to do is make
sure that we keep your blood sugar at a certain
level and not let the chemo elevate it beyond a
certain point, which is why I have to have much
more regular blood work with the vampire in the lab
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coat and blood sucking vampire. I saw her this morning, Karla.
She's wonderful, my triachnurse.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
And.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
No, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
It is I mean, I am literally transforming physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually,
cleansing and releasing whatever is toxic in my body. And
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that is inspirational.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
For me. It is clean the temple. Yeah, clean the temple, absolutely,
absolutely well.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I wanted to bring up the retrograde because you know,
people kind of freak out with that.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
We do have to, you know, I just want to
add a.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Little positive to it that it's really you know, it's
not a good time to like make big decisions or
sign legal documents things like that. But it's really a
good time to cleanse the temple.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, to meditate, to.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Reflect, take this time to take care of yourself, make
a plan for maybe a diet. There is something healthy
for you, you know, find find the silver lining and
this retrograde, because I see retrograde usually.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
As a good thing. I do.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I love the the time to reflect, time to rest,
time to meditate. Everybody knows I love to meditate. So
you know, try it, just try it. I dare everybody
to try it. And so you know, this might be
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why these things happened with you, with Argie, with so
many people right now when it did. Yeah, so we
can go into it. And I think this is a long one,
isn't it. Like it is way into August and usual, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Or September. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Somebody out there probably knows, but it's a long one.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
So maybe that's why it happened when it did.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, well I'll have to I'll have to check that out.
But I know my trajectory now, and you know yours,
and r J knows his, and together and anyone out there,
anyone out there that feels alone, isolated, that feels the
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need to reach out come to tom Owen's spot, and
we'll be together there, and we will pray for each
other there, and we will heal each other, and we
will gather together in moments of sublime wonder, and we
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will practice the presence, and we will be still in
our souls and open those doors to the deepest, most
wondrous part of who we are, and experience, perhaps for
the first time, experience our own essence.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
And it is divine, and it.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Is sacred, and miracles happen every day. We're just too
busy to pay attention and to notice. But slow down
enough and breathe and notice the beauty around you and
the love that surrounds you. And feel the presence of
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your ancestors, and feel the presence of legions of angels,
and feel your source, and feel the energy pulsing through
your body, flowing through your veins. And we will be
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each for each other, a beacon in the night. And
so it is, and so it is.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Wow, that was fantastic, Andrea, I kept I'm fighting going
into a meditative state right now. Your words and your
tone just really came over me. That was beautiful. I
hope everybody else is feeling that the energy, the power
and the love behind what's happening here tonight with our
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connection and knowing that when we connect, we know it's
we connect without everybody, all beings, and we truly are.
I mean, if you send healing to Andrea, you're sending
healing to everybody.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
You're sending that love to ore body. And be open
to receiving, not just giving, be open to receiving.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Now, that is so integral to this process of this
swirling energy that we are each a part of. And
so we shall gather together birds of a feather, and
we will fly.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
We will fly. Let's thank you together.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Thank you, Deb, thank you, thank you for joining me tonight.
I feel like this was not only selfishly, this was
really important for both of us, but I hope it
touched the hearts and minds of many more because in
times of you know, high stress and anxiety particularly and
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feeling a little stable, this is a grounding that we
did tonight and take your shoes off, walk in the
wet grass, feel the dew settling between your toes, and
look up, look up. Thank you all for joining us tonight,
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My darlings. We love you all, and we will close
with our mantra. Be the beacon of hope, light the
way for others, illuminate the path. Be the change you
wish to see in the world, and always strive to
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be the light you seek.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Good Night,
Ah, good evening everyone, Thank you so much for joining
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us on a world awakening. Deb Da Russ, my star sister,
my sweet dear Blay Andrea, my beloved is joining me
for the evening. And you know, we're talking about the
same thing, but different situations, but it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So anybody that didn't have.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
A chance to tap into the title or the description
of tonight's show, I'll give you the heads up here.
The title of our show tonight is what are we
I'm having? And the description who among us hasn't said
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some version of this famous line from the film Splash.
All of us can relate to navigating the treacherous river
of life, riddled with obstacles lurking beneath the surface. Another
famous line, when you are going through hell, keep going
a unique human trait. Our ability to demonstrate strength, courage, resilience,
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and perseverance during difficult times is an admirable attribute.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But what choice do we have. We can crash on
the rocks or sailon with.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Determination, and should we get tossed overboard, we can always
flip over and float, allowing the current to carry us
as we recover. Deb Durus joins me for an inspirational
hour of revelations about our latest week.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
From Amiens sister. Yeah, I keep hearing Dory in my
head from Finding Nemo.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, keep swimming, women, just keep swimming.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yes, yeah, the shark's teeth, you know, nipping at your
at your tail.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So I wanted to apologize to our viewers of this,
you know, just devoted viewers of this show week in
and week out, and we had the show scheduled last
week and you know all of this, I keep you
completely abreast, so to speak, of the situation, my ongoing situation,
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and I had not this past Monday, but the previous Monday,
I had been scheduled for a pet scam, which I
have every three months to chart my progress. And for
the first eleven months since my diagnosis, I had done
remarkably well, and the tumors were shrinking, shrinking, shrinking, some
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completely disappeared. But Christine had some very important business to
attend to that morning, so you know, all brave, I said,
I'll just go by myself.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, it was the first time and only time that
I had ever gone to the hospital complex on my own,
not like you know, I knew how to get there.
That wasn't an issue, where to park, where to go.
I knew all of that, so you know, what did
I have.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
To be afraid of?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And yet when I walked into that building and I
didn't have my sister beside me, I suddenly felt a
wash with vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh just like wow. I felt forsaken.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I felt alone in the midst of dozens and dozens
of people.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
All around me. And I went into the room.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The tech took me in and they gave me the
infusion of the radioactive waste they can scan me with
because it's supposed to light up if there's any new
growth in the tumors. It lights up on the pet
scan and it's called shine. And you know, so I'm there, oh,
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you know shine on Harvest Moon, you know Shine. I'm
like trying to be just uplift myself, you know, not
feel so alone. And I went into the room and
they gave me the infusion, and then they covered me
in warm blankets and reclined my chair and left me
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there alone for forty five minutes, which is standard procedure
so that it can work its way all through my body.
And I broke down and I just I sobbed like
a baby. I just I was so grateful that there
was a full box of tissues in that room and
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there was a button for me to push if I
needed help, but I needed to just cry. For the
first time since my diagnosis that I just wept and
I didn't know why. But everything went fine. The scan
went fine. I came home and was exhausted, so I
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laid down and I took a nap. And that Wednesday morning,
Christine and I went into the hospital to my oncologist's
office and when she walked into the room, she wasn't
smiling the way she was she would normally smile, and
we were you know, I got up, I embraced her, and.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
She said, okay, I need you to have a seat.
We have to talk. And I was like, I don't
like the sound of that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And that's when she informed me that the cancer had
begun to return with a vengeance and that it was
fighting back and that we were going to have to
immediately change my chemotherapy to another therapy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Christine was devastated. She didn't say a word.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I heard her gasp sitting beside me, and she didn't
say a word. And doctor Knight told me the bad news,
and then she told me the good news, and that is,
after more than eleven months of making absolutely remarkable progress
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on my original chemotherapy, it had suddenly stopped working.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And she told me that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
One year to the day prior to my visit on Wednesday,
a drug had been approved by the FBFDA that targets
a specific marker in cancer, marker that had been discovered
in my blood.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Never once in.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
All the blood tests and all the genetic tests and
all everything that I've been through, never once had a
marker for cancer emerged anywhere, Like I didn't have the disease,
like it was somehow a figment of my imagination. There
was no physiological marker in my body to identify cancer,
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and now suddenly.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
There was, and.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
There was a drug that would attack it, target it.
And the way she put it was, we've been riding
blind on a road along road, just hoping for the best,
and we got some great success out of the original drug.
(09:30):
But now we have a detour sign for a path
and it's road less traveled. It's a very specific immunotherapy
coupled with chemotherapy, and it targets this particular really unusual
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type of cancer specifically, and it suffocates it. It does
not allow it to reproduce. It can't make the babies.
So everything has a natural life cycle, and if it
cannot reproduce itself, then the cells will just naturally run
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their cycle and die without recreating themselves in another more
expansive form by multiplying. And so she explained all of
this to us, and meanwhile, Christine's just sitting there, like
you know, we're looking at all the paperwork and everything,
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and just like you know, she shows me the name
of the drug, which is literally unpronounceable, and I said, well,
I just looked at her and I said, so, what
you're telling me is that this is a blessing in disguise,
and this marker emerging in my bloodline is now a
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gift and an act of divine intervention. And she said yes,
I would prefer to think of it that way too,
And she looked at me and she said, you know,
miracles happen every day, every day, and I said, yep,
I know it. So when do we start? And She's like,
we start today. And so I had to go down
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to the infusion center and I got my pill form
the pill form of the medication, and then I had
to go to the infusion center, and so we were
there for about four hours total. And Chris was very
very quiet on the way home, and I said, I know,
this seems like very very bad news, but it's actually
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really good news.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You just have to, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Look at it from this perspective instead of hearing the
cancer has returned. Here's how we're going to kill it.
And the other drug couldn't do that and this one can.
And I'm tolerating it remarkably well. And I had to
go back to the hospital today this morning after doing
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coast to coast from three to five am, I slept
for an hour and a half, got up, took a shower,
got in the car, and drove down to the hospital
to do.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It all over again.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And you know, and I feel my spirit is lifted
and I feel more hopeful than I have in a
long time. But long story short, this is my apology
for why we suddenly did not do our shows that
were scheduled for last and we canceled them suddenly because
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Bill said, nope, you need dressed, Nope, you need dressed.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And so we'll do reruns.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'll go see Superman and you take it easy and
we'll come to get other next week. And in the interim,
you had a situation which in a way mirrored my own.
You know, there was a crisis that you were facing,
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and we haven't been able to be in touch much
because your attention has been fully focused, as it should be,
on your husband. But you at least were kind enough
to put something out on Facebook so that people knew
what was going on.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And I couldn't find the words yet.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I mean, I had to process this sudden change in direction.
And you know, so we've been in touch a little bit.
But you know, why don't you share your week from hell?
Now that I've shared my week from Hell? And well,
it it helps.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
People to know.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It helps people to know that we're all going through something.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, well it's actually been two weeks from how because
I can tell you now when I got your news,
you let me know immediately I did. I told Bill,
I just I'm not dealing with this. Well, it rocked
my world.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I was terribly upset. I sobbed, I.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Prayed, I went right to my knees because damn it,
I'm not going to lose you.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
This world needs you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And then I you know, after about a day two
days of doing this, I started getting she's going to
pull through this. Keep the faith, Keep the faith, because
I'm always the one to say stay positive, no negative thoughts.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But I love you so deeply, and I loved you
so deeply.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We're one orre, so you know that connection is so
very strong. So my real turning point was when you called,
because I think you just sensed that dev has to
hear my voice and we were able to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Thank you for doing that. I love you.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I am now totally one thousand percent positive that you're
not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm not. So this earth needs you, it really needs you. Yeah,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But I do want to put out there speaking of Facebook,
that Tom Owen, bless his heart, he's such a wonderful,
wonderful man. Wonderful man has started a group called Andrea's Angels,
and you know, everybody can join this and get in
on the healing. There's a healing for you tomorrow evening.
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Although I know that common myself and many of us
are sending at least once twice three times a day,
so we do invite everybody to get in on that
because the collective is powerful, so so powerful. You know,
you've heard about the power of prayer for ever, and
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this is the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's when you get that many.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Souls and minds focused on one positive thing, that's what
you bring to light.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You know, thoughts are things. How often do we say that? Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And when you get the collective doing it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All in a positive way, Andrew is not going anywhere.
So everybody looked at that group up and become a
part of it.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And please send continue sending love, healing and positive thoughts to.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Andrea and our Jay. Thank you, thank you. And now
that being said, r J and I.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Have had a very busy year and had decided we
need a break.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
We just we've worked so hard, there's been so many
things going on. We need a together break. So we
had been planning this past Sunday to head to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
The up to our favorite resort up there in Curtis
where we had our.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Missed CO weekend, and we were going to take three
or four days and just relax, sit by the.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Water fashion yeah yeah, walk in the woods, get our
nature fix and just be together.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
About five we first started with him tearing his rotator
cuff while he was working out lifting weights and so
he was in pain.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The day after doing that, he had a tooth that
went bad. He had to go have that pulled. And
then I started noticing he just wasn't the same. I
could see some poofiness things like that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
While we continued preparing for our week away, and we
were planning on leaving Sunday morning. But Sunday morning, he
got up and said, I can't breathe. So, being the
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hemorrhoid that I am, drives him crazy. I grabbed the
pole socks and the blood pressure cuff and everything because
I know his heart history, and I said, we're not
going to the up yet.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You need to go to the hospital. I could see
that he was in severe a him.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
And could tell that he had congestive heart failure going on.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So he argued with me. Of course he did, said, no,
we have our plan, the cars half packed, blah blah blah. Yeah,
because you know, God forbid you should save his life.
You know exactly exactly, and you know you have to
be respectful to the owner of the cabins. We have
a reservation. You can't just not go. Because he really
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wanted to go. I really wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So long story short, I called nine one one got
him to the hospital, thank god, because he would not
have survived that day.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Had we not gone.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So from Sunday until Wednesday, he was in the hospital
in critical care unit. He was in pretty rough shape.
But between Sunday and today when we saw the cardiologist,
they had pulled off thirty pounds of liquid fluid in
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his body.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So he was drowning. Yes, absolutely, absolutely, he was a mess.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So he's still in rough shape, but he is home.
We spent hours with the cardiologists today. We have a plan.
We're trying to get his heart stronger at the moment
and one step at a time, So in about three
weeks or so, they're going to shock his heart I
(20:43):
try to get back into rhythm good.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So until then, if people could just send some love
and healing his way, I would be so very grateful.
You know, everybody loves the Wizard.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, and like, like you, we need to keep him around.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yes, yeah, it's been but it's not only us. I mean,
look around look at Texas. Oh my gosh, what they
have been through.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
The I mean I feel guilty even complaining about anything.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, you know, Jeff and I just finished soul school
a few minutes ago, and you know, this is what
we talked about, was letting our vulnerabilities be exposed and revealed,
not just to ourselves but to others, to you know,
bearing our soul that it is actually a purification, it
(21:43):
is a cleansing, and it also liberates others to have
conversations like we are having. This is what happened to me,
This is what's happening with you and r J. There
is something healing about the energy that we expend so
(22:06):
much energy internalizing and trying to sequester our vulnerability and
to be strong and to be the picture of grace
in a crisis and you know, to rise above it
and fly above the radar and always be the picture
(22:28):
of decorum and keep our shit together.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And you know, that's not really what it's about at all.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
The important thing is that we love and trust each
other as beings enough that we can share what we
feel and what we fear. And you know that monster
in the water that's lurking just below the.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Surface, it's just like right there. I know it's right there.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And and I've you know, lectured so many times about
the notion of the river of life and it has
a crazy current and if you happen to fall overboard,
you can flip over and float. And you know that's
where I am now. I got like thrown overboard when
(23:27):
I got my test results. It was also given a lifeline.
And now RJ has been given a lifeline by removing
that excess fluid from his body, around his heart, his lungs.
It saved him. It saved him. You saved him. And
(23:50):
you know, there's a beautiful song called Rescue about sending
out an sos.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I will send out an army. You know, I wish
I could sing it, but I'm too choked up to
do that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And we can't play it because then YouTube will you
know fire us.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I don't have I don't have my ASCAP license. Sorry,
But it's called Rescue. You can just google it and
listen to it, and it's it's what we do for
each other. And you know, the main line is I
will rescue you. And that's what we do for each other.
(24:31):
That's what love does. And that's a whole.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Part of.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And I think a critically important part what taps into
this broadcast a world awakening. When we awaken to our
realization of oneness and our interconnectedness.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Then it's not scary to be vulnerable. It's not scary.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
To expose the deep inner workings of the shadow that
lurks in your soul and let that out, release it,
and you will realize that it's fear. And when you
acknowledge it and embrace it and love it for the
(25:26):
times that it has helped you, and then release it,
as I told Jeff, and then identify the bully in
the classroom and expel it from soul school, then there's healing.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Involved with that process. It is a part of our
spiritual ascension.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I believe in understanding that we are one, we are
all unique, and yet we are all the same lutely,
you know, it's it's a it's an interesting dichotomy.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's it's an.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Interesting thing about being human is that you know the
old phrase, well, we all cry tears, we all bleed red, you.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Know, and that is true.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And once we no longer feel isolated in our pain
and in our in our worry, in in whatever we're facing,
and come to the understanding that we don't need to
face it alone, then it is liberating. And that liberation
(26:43):
to share and love each other well is so much
a part of our healing. And the thing that's so
ironic about it was I had to face this crisis
in order to find the shortcut, you know, off the
(27:04):
well beaten path where we didn't know where we were
going because we didn't have a.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Sign to follow. Now we do, and.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That wouldn't have happened if they didn't detect a shine
on the tumors of the cancer making a resurgence, right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
You know, you had to.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Get the bad news to get the good news, and
it's you know you you had to RJ had to
get the bad news that vacation canceled off to the
hospital and that saved his life.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, and with that it saved my life, yes, absolutely, yeah.
And without you finding the marker, you know, had you
discontinued with the chemo you were in once you once
you called me and explained, okay, here's the positive. Yeah,
that's so we have a marker.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now we never read.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Dark cloud, Yes, yes, so you know we all have
to remember and hold on to that there's there is
always some good that comes out of things.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
We just have to find it.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
And you know, it's okay to cry those tears and
it's okay to fall apart. That's that's why we're here
to share this too. You know, we can all suffer
in silence or we can ease it by doing it together.
(28:42):
Things are not all that easy right now, I say
the least right, but together we've got this to get
all of it.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
And you know see whats Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Seeing people come together and stand up like Tom who
started that group and starting healing and all of the
things that. You know, one crisis can bring so many
people together.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, really can.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The Twin Towers. I mean back to that when that
happened and how everybody banded together, Yes, and in pure
love say no matter what, we together we have this.
So you know, hopefully we're shedding that light on people
(29:38):
who are kind of suffering long.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
R yes, and suffering in silence. Far to many suffering
in silence. And it's important that we be here as
you know, we awaken to our purpose, our mission in
this world, which is to love each other powerfula And
(30:01):
during soul school I read this brief little message somebody
had written to me today.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Wanting to.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Asking me a question about spiritual ascension. And this is
how and what that meant to me, and this is
what I responded in my text to him. I think
we spiritually ascend when we realize that each and every
one of us is a church, a place of worship.
(30:36):
Once we learned to open the door within our soul,
it's all within us. We are each and every one
of us capable of healing because we are each, in
every one of us, a divine manifestation of the God Consciousness,
the prime Creator.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
We are all part and parcel of the One.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And that's empowering to understand that you are not a
subject of anything. You know, you're not you know, there's
not a king, and you're just a feudal subject. We're
all together in this and it is that singular concept
(31:26):
that holds within it the seed to the cure of.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
All the discontent in the world.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So there are those among us who spread that word
very effectively. And I sent you a thing a few
weeks ago from a physicist who's also a philosopher, doctor Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I believe his name. Excuse me, honey.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
That's okay, Yes, I remember that, but that Stephen Hawkins.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yes, I don't remember, not Stephen Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I think it was David Hawkins.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And in his research, what he has determined, and he's
done this, you know, with mathematical equations and you know,
studying kinetic energy and you know that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
He's physicists, and.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And he he said that he has determined that one
individual emanating a higher frequency of love and light counteracts
the negative emotions of one hundred and seventy five thousand people.
(32:51):
Is now incredible, even if that number in actuality is
half ten, you know, even if that's then the antidote
is love. The antidote to.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
All that ails us is love. You know, I'm buttercup.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I've got my little banner on the top that says
I did not come to teach you. I came to
love you. Love will teach you. I will never part
with that. I have assimilated. I don't know who wrote it.
I just stole it off the internet. The incident spoke
to me the instant I saw it years and years ago.
I was like, I'm going to take that and use
(33:37):
it because it was it spoke to what I feel is,
you know, the embodiment of my soul on this plane
of action, that I am here to express love in
every conceivable way that I can to spread that as
(33:59):
far and wide as I am able, which is why
I'm so grateful to Bill, and I'm so grateful to
KGRA forgiving me this global forum so that those that
need us find us, and it urgeons, and it grows,
(34:20):
and it grows, and the message spreads like the proverbial
pebble in the middle of a pond, and the concentric
circles keep going and going and going, because it has
created a center of energy that spreads equidistantly across.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
The body of water.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And even when you don't see the ripples anymore, that
energy is still in motion and spreading and spreading. And that,
my friends, my friends, is our world awakening to our
(35:01):
own divine being, to our own consciousness, to our own
ability to comprehend the notion that we are part of
a sacred whole. And once we know that, it liberates us,
(35:25):
it empowers us, and it gives us an ability to
heal others that we touch with that higher frequency. Yes, absolutely,
beautifully said I think I love that, and love is
always always the answer, and that's.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
What we're here for. Like you said, Andrews, you know
we're here to remember because we are soul. You know,
our physical bodies are very individual, our soul bodies are one. Yeah,
And we're here to remember who we are, who we're connected.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
To, where where were from, and how ancient we are.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Absolutely, and that we are connected. And love is the
answer always to every question.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And that in its own, as simple as it sounds,
that is a truly sacred realization. That is, it's really
that simple. Love each other, you know, the golden rue.
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
(36:43):
It is that simple. We're the ones that complicate everything,
and you know, tend to let our emotions run amok,
and you know, fight over stupid stuff and alien each
other from.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And it doesn't need to be that way. It doesn't
need to be that way. And intrinsic in this conversion
of faith and knowing who we are and why we're
here involves the revelation of forgiveness and reverence and respect
(37:29):
for all other beings.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Always, except we're not separate from any of those, you know,
we are divine tapestry, absolutely interwoven.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, threads and lights and sparks of light, threads interwoven
into one beautiful piece of art.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I love it so well, said so well, oh, I'm
sure I stole that from somebody's side.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, I still love it, and it's it's so accurate.
And if you think about it, you know, we have
the physical human self with the ego. That's that's where
we screw up as we have. Yeah, yeah, tell ourselves that,
you know, some are better than others and.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
But that's all the physical self, where the soul self
is totally different. But if the soul self doesn't teach
the physical self.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We have problems.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, and that's why humans need human contact.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You know, a baby who has failure to thrive will
literally die without human kind contact. Yes, yes, they have
to have that touch.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
They have to. We all have to.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
That's why we hug, that's why we hold hands, that's
why we kiss.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
That's right, and that's also why you know, one of
our lessons in this life this round.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Was COVID and the only way.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That you could actually express your love and affection and
tenderness for another human being was to stay the hell
away from them.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
It was it was such a difficult couple of years
where we were forced to isolate from each other. And
I always say, thank god the Internet didn't explode.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
When that was the only way we could be together safely.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
No, And I didn't know it at the time, but
I already had cancer. My doctor told me that, based
on how advanced.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
This cancer was upon detection.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
That probably been carrying it in my body for four
years or more. And and I just didn't know it.
And it's like, you know the story of the bumblebee.
Anybody familiar with physics knows that a bumblebee.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Is too fat and too heavy and.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Its wings are too fragile for it to be able
to lift its body and fly, But it doesn't know
it can't fly, so.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It flies anyway.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I love that I had not heard that.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh well, they defy the laws of physics. Yeah, and
so can we, and so can we. Yeah yeah, well,
I mean hostro travel things.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh. I have out of body experiences so regularly. It's
like I'm only visiting when I'm actually here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I know. Yeah, you know, I'm curious how many people
I know.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
When I was young, I knew I could fly, and
I did often, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, Yeah, I've laid and you could just seen stairs
when I was five years old, because I was absolutely
sure that if I just launched myself off those stairs
that I would land on my feet at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I'm really lucky I survived that. My mother, you were
very lucky. I didn't try it. I didn't try it physically,
No I did.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I couldn't push my soul out, which you know, shows
lack of wisdom from an early age.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
But you're so rebellious now. Because I had had a
dream that I was a bird. I mean, it was
so vivid, it was so real, and I it was.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
A huge, a huge raven with a long, black, shiny beak,
and I could see my wings extended on and I
was just a little child, and I was given this
gift of I don't think it was a dream.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
It was something more important than that. And I flew all.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Over around the world.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
And I was just a baby, you know, five years old,
and I flew all around. I saw the Redwood forest
and it's original before we cut a tree down. I
saw I went back in time, and I saw the
world as it was, not as it was when I
(42:55):
was that age, but as it was a thousand years
before or And but then with having that experience, at
such a young age, and it becoming integral to who
I was. I mean, I just I can still close
(43:18):
my eyes and like it's just happening again.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
It was. It left an imprint on me that was permanent.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And so after that happened, I was sure that I
had now developed the ability to fly, because I wasn't,
you know, rational yet. I had not reached the age
of consciousness yet. And yeah, my mother told me that
I wasn't allowed to fly until I was older. That's
(43:47):
how she handled it. So it was dangerous. I couldn't
fly until I was older.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I can get physical, Yeah, but you can still fly
and you did, did see.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
When we're little, we have that knowing and we just
do it.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
We think it's dreams, yes, or something. I don't I
don't remember even trying to figure it out. I just
knew that I could fly places and see things and
it worked. But I did, you know, I've always been
afraid of heights, So I think a past life took
(44:26):
care of me trying to do it physically.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oh perhaps, Yeah. I didn't hurt myself trying to fly.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I only did it with my consciousness.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Well, you know, little kids are very like they're like
played out.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
We bounce, you know, I mean little kids generally do
bounce right softer.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, that's very true. That's very true.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And I did want to bring up the fact that
I believe it started yesterday.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
We are in mercury retrograde. I know, I've meant to
use my cups. I can't.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Mercury is retrograde. I usually have it with gluffee, but
I'm not allowed to. The next time you see me,
I am going to be significantly smaller because this particular
chemo elevates blood sugar. So I'm having to cut carbohydrates
(45:21):
out of my diet, which is like, you.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Know, let me just open a vein. What do you mean.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I can't eat half a bag of chocolates while I'm
watching TV, but a half a bag of potato chips. Yeah,
now I can't have to get I know they do
salt and sweet, absolutely perfect combination.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
So yeah, now it's I'm basically going to need to
do the Atkins diet.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
The last time I felt a little fat and fluffy,
and I did the Atkins diet, which I was I
don't know, maybe fifteen twenty years ago, and then I
just stopped caring, but I lost thirty pounds in thirty days,
and so I have to mitigate that. And my doctor said,
you know, now, don't go overboard, because I told her
(46:13):
that's how my body responds to removing carbohydrates from my system.
And she's like, all we need to do is make
sure that we keep your blood sugar at a certain
level and not let the chemo elevate it beyond a
certain point, which is why I have to have much
more regular blood work with the vampire in the lab
(46:37):
coat and blood sucking vampire. I saw her this morning, Karla.
She's wonderful, my triachnurse.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
And.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
No, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
It is I mean, I am literally transforming physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually,
cleansing and releasing whatever is toxic in my body. And
(47:14):
that is inspirational.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
For me. It is clean the temple. Yeah, clean the temple, absolutely,
absolutely well.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I wanted to bring up the retrograde because you know,
people kind of freak out with that.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
We do have to, you know, I just want to
add a.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Little positive to it that it's really you know, it's
not a good time to like make big decisions or
sign legal documents things like that. But it's really a
good time to cleanse the temple.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, to meditate, to.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Reflect, take this time to take care of yourself, make
a plan for maybe a diet. There is something healthy
for you, you know, find find the silver lining and
this retrograde, because I see retrograde usually.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
As a good thing. I do.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I love the the time to reflect, time to rest,
time to meditate. Everybody knows I love to meditate. So
you know, try it, just try it. I dare everybody
to try it. And so you know, this might be
(48:37):
why these things happened with you, with Argie, with so
many people right now when it did. Yeah, so we
can go into it. And I think this is a long one,
isn't it. Like it is way into August and usual, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Or September. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Somebody out there probably knows, but it's a long one.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
So maybe that's why it happened when it did.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, well I'll have to I'll have to check that out.
But I know my trajectory now, and you know yours,
and r J knows his, and together and anyone out there,
anyone out there that feels alone, isolated, that feels the
(49:31):
need to reach out come to tom Owen's spot, and
we'll be together there, and we will pray for each
other there, and we will heal each other, and we
will gather together in moments of sublime wonder, and we
(49:54):
will practice the presence, and we will be still in
our souls and open those doors to the deepest, most
wondrous part of who we are, and experience, perhaps for
the first time, experience our own essence.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
And it is divine, and it.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Is sacred, and miracles happen every day. We're just too
busy to pay attention and to notice. But slow down
enough and breathe and notice the beauty around you and
the love that surrounds you. And feel the presence of
(50:40):
your ancestors, and feel the presence of legions of angels,
and feel your source, and feel the energy pulsing through
your body, flowing through your veins. And we will be
(51:02):
each for each other, a beacon in the night. And
so it is, and so it is.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Wow, that was fantastic, Andrea, I kept I'm fighting going
into a meditative state right now. Your words and your
tone just really came over me. That was beautiful. I
hope everybody else is feeling that the energy, the power
and the love behind what's happening here tonight with our
(51:37):
connection and knowing that when we connect, we know it's
we connect without everybody, all beings, and we truly are.
I mean, if you send healing to Andrea, you're sending
healing to everybody.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
You're sending that love to ore body. And be open
to receiving, not just giving, be open to receiving.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Now, that is so integral to this process of this
swirling energy that we are each a part of. And
so we shall gather together birds of a feather, and
we will fly.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
We will fly. Let's thank you together.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Thank you, Deb, thank you, thank you for joining me tonight.
I feel like this was not only selfishly, this was
really important for both of us, but I hope it
touched the hearts and minds of many more because in
times of you know, high stress and anxiety particularly and
(52:58):
feeling a little stable, this is a grounding that we
did tonight and take your shoes off, walk in the
wet grass, feel the dew settling between your toes, and
look up, look up. Thank you all for joining us tonight,
(53:23):
My darlings. We love you all, and we will close
with our mantra. Be the beacon of hope, light the
way for others, illuminate the path. Be the change you
wish to see in the world, and always strive to
(53:46):
be the light you seek.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Good Night,
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