July 25, 2025 • 56 mins
Though the famous phrase is widely attributed to Winston Churchill, tonight we will put it to good use for our own purposes. Reason enough to explore the concept of trials and tribulations, all the obstacles we each face on a daily basis. It's just our consistently chaotic reality, a fact of life. Confronting the demons that routinely rear their ugly heads, whether it is a natural disaster, a sudden illness or loss, a car wreck, a fall, a disaster in one form or another tends to befall us all-to-frequently. My Lynny & Jeff Bowling will join me for a relevant, uplifting message for all those who feel like they are going through hell alone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bashi good e.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hy Sorry, have you calmed down now that your technical
issues have been resolved? Maybe I want you to say
that I took my meds.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Good, look at my meds.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm my ten o'clock meds, which means by eleven o'clock,
I'm gonna be down for the count.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But I've got a good hour in me before they get.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh god, okay, I didn't even bother doing an introduction
because anybody that watches this show knows you, knows both
of you as family to me.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Family.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You are my sister, Lenny the Pooh, my paranormal husband Jeff,
who I share you know it works so well for me,
well for me, I can't even tell you. I can't
wait till September. You, sir, better be up and around
(02:25):
end of September. I want to be able to play paranormal.
I have supernatural shenanigans with you. Yep. Okay, So we're
going to talk about the trials and tribulations today.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh my god, there's a mosquito in here. Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So the title of tonight's show is when You're going
through Hell, keep going description though the famous oh I
can't read this without my cheaters.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
My god, well I can't read it anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Oh jeez, I no, and that's something else we'll be talking. Yeah, yeah, okay,
now I can see it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Though the famous phrase is widely attributed to Winston Churchill,
which I don't think he's the one that said.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I think he stole it. But that's okay, that's just
me tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We will put we will put it to good use
for our own purposes. Reason enough to explore the concept
of trials and tribulations, all the obstacles we each face
on a daily basis. It's just our consistently chaotic reality
effect of life. Confronting the demons that routinely rear their
(03:32):
ugly heads, whether it is a natural disaster, a sudden
illness or loss, a car wreck, a fall, A disaster
in one form or another, tends to befall us all
too frequently. My Lenny and Jeff Bowling will join me
for a relevant, uplifting message for all of those who
feel like they are going through hell alone.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You are not alone. No anybody you know, and ask
them what they are facing right now.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Most people, just you know, they internalize their issues, They
internalize their fears about what's coming their way.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But when we reach out to each other and.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Open that box, which sometimes seems like Pandora's box, it's
amazing the relief yea, it brings, you know, the peace
of mind that it brings, and Jeff, you.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Have you know, everybody knows what I'm going through. So
we're going to just skip right over that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But you're facing double hip replacement, no small matter, a
real big deal, an operation that they didn't even conceive
of until about fifty years ago. And so you have
a whole new chance at having a whole new life
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because of medical technology and your willingness, your strength, your resilience,
your perseverance, your.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Just your courage to go through something that difficult.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And I know what it is because my mom fell
and broke her hip years and years ago in twenty
twelve and we were all out, the whole rest of
the family was out on the set of the Conjuring
when they were filming the movie, and we got a
phone call that Mom had fallen and broken her hip
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and had to just pack up and drive back from Wilmington,
North Carolina, on the set and got into the hospital
un mass.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, all five of her children were there and.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I saw what she went through and stayed and helped
in her recovery.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So I understand what you're facing.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I also know that you are perfectly capable of not
only facing it, becoming out pure and perfect and whole
on the other side of this and.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Free of pain.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I celebrate the fact that you weren't willing to just
live with the pain, that you just got to the
point where this is something.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That has to be done. So the floor is yours, darling,
and then we'll move to Lenny.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But the floor is yours because I want you to
the extent that you wish to share your experience.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, my experience, you know, with the hips. I have
been working with the doctors for over five years on
the snow and I finally just couldn't take it anymore.
And the one doctor told me that he only does
the shots and didn't do surgery. So we talked to
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the primary doctors and we got a new doctor and
we're moving right along. And definitely was something on MI.
I'm heavy on my mind about going in for the surgery.
Has been, you know, not easy for me to you know,
to handle, I guess, but I am getting through it
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good and it's remarkable. It's remarkable what's happened and how
the pain's gone into left hip. You know, the only
pain I have now is I have some muscle pain
and some other things you know that are all surgery
related pain. It's not the hip pain anymore. Right, But
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we have the right hip who's screaming and yelling now
and waiting for ins turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing. He's
in the background, growling out of it.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, she's unhappy because she can't be.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
With she can be with us.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Bring her on off, all right, I don't know, Amaze,
there's my baby girl. And never forget, always remember, and
never forget, Lenny, I helped her first.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We know.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, So had my pre surgery visit this morning with
the doctor for the for the second hip, and he's,
you know, he's pretty up for it. And uh, he says,
we're going to take care of it. He says, but
just always remember that things might not be the same
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as the other one. He says. Things could go where
it may hurt more afterwards, it may not hurt more afterwards,
it could just collect nothing. And he says, but you know,
they're never the same. He said to me today and
is just kind of remember that. And it's been hard
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getting around for I don't know, the first two weeks,
three weeks getting around with a walker, yeah, because I
really couldn't move much. But over the weeks it's gotten different,
and I've transferred from a walker to a cane. And
lately I've been catching myself walking around the house and
stuff without the cane, and then I have to take
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and find a cane. It's because I've left it somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But isn't that a good sign? Now?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, isn't that a good sign? But you know, I
was very touched personally, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
When you know, Lenny let me know that you had.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Some trepidation about having this surgery, and because of the
experiences that you have had, you know, paranormal experience, it
is near death experiences. You come from an entirely different perspective.
And I understood that because I've had, you know, not
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like experiences specifically, but like experiences generally. And so one
night we had a conversation, and I hope that it
eased your mind and that it made your transition into
this process a little bit easier to be able to
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speak so openly about what you were feeling. I think
people all too often, as I said earlier, internalized, we attended.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
We don't want to ever ever.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Be perceived as weak. No, especially men. You know, you
guys have a real issue.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
We're stubborn about that.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm just saying, not for nothing, but you know, and Bill,
I know you're listening. Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
And I've had I've had that since i've been healing
here two times where I've got up and did things
when you know you're being told you can't or shouldn't,
and then you take and you get up and do
it anyways because I'm so stubborn about it.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
But yeah, and then and then you're in pain after.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been I've been walking. I've been
starting to walk. I started with the quarter of the
quarter of the block here in front of our house,
started walking around and stuff like that, and then I
I kind of graduated to the quarter mile block around
around the corner here and started walking around. But then
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when I get home, you know, then I've got the
muscle pain from the incision site and some of the
muscles around the hip and things that are just surgery
related stuff. But the left hit the right hip says uh, Hey.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm still hurt. I'm not hurt yet.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I'm hurt and I'm screaming at you because you did
what you did. But the problem, the thing is, it's
not a problem. But the thing is, I've got to
get that left hip strong so that i can move
when the right hips week.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So, yes, how.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Are you feeling about going now that you've done the
surgery and you had concern maybe maybe say what some
of your concerns were going into surgery?
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Well, I was just as andre as you stated. I
just was. I had the feelings the things that with
the near death experiences and the things that have happened
in my life, I was worried, you know. And so
that's what the big part of it was in that,
you know, and now that I've been through all the
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pre pre surgery stuff and all that thing, and the
group that did the actual work that day, the people
in surgery prep and the anesthesiologist and all the other
doctors and nurses and everything, we had such I mean
I had such a good day with them, Yeah, you know,
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just because they were they were upbeat, and you know,
I could joke with them and they joked back with you,
and it just you know, made me feel really good. Yeah,
you know, and just you know, all the things that do,
I mean, they make you do a lot of things
for yourself now when you're prepping for surgery.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
But that was all right. I joked at them about it.
I told them, Hey, what are you guys doing today?
What am I paying you for today?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm doing all the work here.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You know, I got to do this, I got to
do that and everything. And you know, so they were,
you know, joking around with me and everything. And then
the anesthesiologists come in, and of course he asked a
bunch of questions and then we talked about the blood
clots and the NDS and stuff like that, and he
was really interested in that and things, and so it was,
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you know, it made it a good, a good feeling
going into it. And I mean, I don't even really
remember getting to the operating room. They gave me a
shot before we left the pre opp area, and by
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the time I got to the surgery I may have
seen the lights and stuff like that, but I don't
remember anything until I woke up in the in the room.
And I don't even remember in waking up in recovery.
I more woke up in a room hospital room that night.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
They took me right upstairs, but it was but I did,
I did feel like they had me strapped to the
bed because they had my They had apparatus.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
They put between your legs and then they strap your
legs to that apparatus so you can't.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Move it's any.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Anyway, you know, and you know, so that you can't
roll or get out of bed or any of that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I don't know. It sounds more like torture to me,
but you.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Know, yeah, it was. They had strapped and everything. God,
we'll take a picture next time.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
But it was, you know, just not being able to
move when you get But they also had the pulsating
compression socks fill up with air and then release and
fill up with air and release. They had those on
me as well. But other than.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That, blood pressure cuffs right that and then you release
that they swell back. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, kind of like a UD pressure cuff, but they
go from your knees down to your ankles and stuff.
But yeah, so I kind of felt trapped when I
first woke up, you know, not really what was going
on and stuff, and I had to pull the blankets
up and take a look to see what was going on.
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But I mean other than that, I got it and stuff.
And then the next morning, I mean, the physical therapists
were there bright and early the next morning, and we
got out of the bed and had to move around
the room and do some things. And then they took
me to physical therapy and it was on the other
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end of the the ward from where I was at,
and I had to walk all the way to the
other end, so it was, you know, it was okay.
I mean, with the walker and everything, I got okay
and didn't really have a bunch of trouble. They actually
made me do some stairs while I was there. And
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then they have what they call a car, and it
looks like a car almost, and you have to figure
out how to get in and out of the car
after the surgery and stuff, and you need to be
able to do all that before they let you go home.
And then after I got all done with that, we
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went back to the room and got ready to come home.
And that's how quick it was. And just there's a
whole bunch of things that we have to watch for
to not do once you're home, and you got to
make sure you don't bend at your hips on that
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side of your body over ninety degrees. You can't go
to forty five degrees because of the because the muscles
are still loose and they don't want the joint to
locate and all this kind of stuff. They got to
let the muscles you know, tighten up and everything. But
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it really, it really was a positive experience, you know,
you know, after worrying about it. And I thank you
for talking to me because it really did help.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I'm so glad and.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And I just you know, I feel so much better now,
especially with the you know, the left side and the
right side screaming at me. Yet.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But you're going to have a whole new life, Jack,
I know, a whole new life will reclaim your life
and and your your youthfulness. And frankly, when I saw
you in April, I know, I said to Lenny, I've
never seen that man look so good.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And you were in terrible pain, but I didn't know it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You know, you had a glow in a vibrancy about you,
and I was just, you know, I was hoping you
were just so thrilled to see me. I was hoping
that was the reason. But you know either way. You know,
I know that Lenny is your primary caregiver, of course,
but I also know that I know you, and I
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know that you developed friendships with your caregivers in the hospital,
your doctors, your staff, and you know I did too.
I mean, it's you know, I'm I'm I wouldn't say that,
I'm bashful, I'm modest. Don't make me slap you. I
can leap right through that screen.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
You know, I'm all magical and shit, and I right
through that screen.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I'm shot.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Oh but you know, like.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'll walk into my doctor's office and you know, I'll
whip my shirt up and I'll like, can you just
look at this puckering thing that's.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Going on here?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You know, just let and it all hang out, and
you know, and I'm thinking of you sitting, you know,
sitting on that table, and yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
They do that. They do that. You know, they come
in and ask, well, you got to do this, and
I said, oh, don't worry about it. I'm used to
it because my primary doctor office is a residency program
for the hospital, and so I see different doctors, whether
it be male, female, all the time. Yeah, and so,
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but the experience just really was a positive one and.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Once we get the mads figured out.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Yeah. And the thing is that I've you know, I
always try to what I want to say, be kind
and be polite mm hmm with people, yea, even though
you're hurting. Yeah, that's something I've over the years have
really had to work with. But I felt that I have,
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you know, made a bunch to changes in that area
and everything and stuff, and I'm still working at well.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think you're just lovely.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And you know, I've got a caregiver team from my oncologist,
my pa, my you know, I like everybody, my triage nurses,
my infusion nurses. I've got like ten women that take
care of me. And one male tech in the pet
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scan areas who I see and you know, it was
so nice.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
His name is Tyler.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And when I went in a few weeks ago, and
I was feeling very vulnerable because I was doing this
you know, massive test by myself, and I was, you know,
just feeling particularly emotional and vulnerable, which I had never
had before because I always had my sister, you know,
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my my my support system right there with me all
the time. And so going in there, I was a
little nervous. I guess I think I probably knew that
there were some changes going on and that you did
want to detect them, and I was, you know, I
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felt a little bit of trepidation about that, you know,
based on what I wrote the day after you know,
which I covered I think last week on Soul School.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It was really like.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
An awareness that there were some rapid changes happening that
weren't particularly good. And when he walked in the room
to give me the infusion of the toxic waste that
they have to to light your whole body up and everything,
he said, you know, I was going to take today off,
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and yesterday I saw your name on the schedule for today,
and he said, I came to work specifically so that
I could see you. And I got up out of
my chair and wrapped my arms around this lovely young man.
I know all about his wife, I know all about you,
I know all about his dog. Okay, I've had I
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think five or six pet scans, and so you know, when.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
People say, oh, you're glowing, I'm like, well, if.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
You had as many pets skins I've had, you'd be
glowing too. And it when you form those bonds with
the people that are there to help you and that
you know, they really care about you. For him to
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rearrange his work schedule to make sure that he was
there to take care of me that morning was such
a gift and such a blessing. And I know that
you developed the same kind of relationships with your care team,
and I think that's wonderful that that has happened for
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you because you will always remember what these people did
to give you a new life.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Jeff, you know, there are people doing a job too,
you know, and you got to you gotta know that
they're there to do their job and try to make
it light and airy for everything going on, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, Well, they know they're not working on a piece
of machinery. They know they're working on a human being
with feelings and frailties and concerns, and you know, and
for them.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
To be sensitive to that the way that your.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Team has been and my team has been, you know,
I think that I've always said, you know, teachers are
a wonderful part of our society what they give of themselves,
but our medical care givers are equally special people that
give up themselves and have a calling to do what
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they do. Now yeah, yeah, it's important, and now we
need to get little miss Lenny to take care of
an issue of her own.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
My bright eyed but sister.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Just to surprise how fast it's come on.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, Okay, well nobody knows because I haven't said anything.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well I sort of just did.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
So well yeah, but I mean explanation wise, well, Candice knows.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But yeah, I have cataracts.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I right, at the same time of the surgery, I
noticed I was having a lot of issues with my
left eye and it was and then I totally I've lost,
totally lost the vision in my left eye. Now, so
I have I have cataracts on both eyes. There's three
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types of cataracts. My left eye has has all three
types and one of which is is like a fast
growing type, which is why I can still see through
my right eye.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
So yeah, next Tuesday I go for an evaluation and
we'll slip in a cataract surgery around Jeff's other hip.
So just one more thing. I mean, I know it's
not like life threatening or anything like that, but you know,
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I have an autoimmune disease. Anytime you mess with my body,
anything could go wrong, and so I you know, it
always makes me hesitant.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, okay, come through this with flying colors.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I was worried this was going to happen. Hold on
so far.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
What did she do? She plugged everybody.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yeah, she's trying to sneak in between us here and she.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
She's like, amazing, amazing, it's Auntie Anny here. Honey, you
need to behave now. You'd be a good girl and
Mama will take good care of you. Oh so sweet baby.
Where my peanut is? Butter Cup?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Where are you? Oh I'm sorry, peanut, Buttercup is.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
She's asleep underneath the blankets. It's like one hundred and
fifty degrees here, and she's underneath the blankets.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Oh god, these little ones, you know, they're so precious.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But oh my god, no, she's you know, she used
to be a really good co host, remember back in then.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I do. Yeah, she used to be and I older
in my arms.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I would get the sweet kisses. She would go for
the lip lard, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I mean, she's like, oh god, I'm going to go
take a nap and.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Get a full body rub and go a little run
around before sleepy time. But all right, Maisie, I'm sorry, honey,
you're not going to get to see Peanut Buttercup. She's
he's indisposed tonight. That's okay. You know, we got we
got the family dog here, so.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
She'd rather see humans and dogs anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't know how we ever, you know, I understand
why dogs were domesticated from war. Yeah, you know, how
could human beings even get through this life? And I
remember Max and how close Max was and Conion, I
mean went everywhere, did everything with him. And now you've
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got your little Maizie, and uh, I don't know that's
about well, other than Peanut Buttercup and little Sam. I
am over here before he is either lucky dogs, very
very very dogs. Yep. Yeah, So Lenny, I would like
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you to wear the Pirate eye patch.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, the pink one.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Yeah, the Pirate eye patch.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Next.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
So the subject of a world awakening tonight is again,
if you're going through hell, going h and it's about perseverance.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
It's about having the courage to just.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Walk on, to make every day important, to make every
day part of your healing. And I know Lenny that
you're afraid that you're going to have an issue when
Jeff needs you most. I know that, Okay, And I'm
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just saying it out loud. I haven't said it to
you before. I don't mean to spring that line on you,
but I'll have a live broadca but concern. I know you,
and I know your concern is that you're not going
to be able to do everything that you need to
do to help him while you're going through your own
personal hell.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I get that, but let me assure you.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
My father had about the worst cataracts that you can
have and glaucoma and had great doctors at the VA
that have He's going to be ninety years old in.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Three now.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Sees with twenty twenty vision and all that I had
to do. Now, please keep in mind that if my
father gets a hangnail, oh.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I know, a little bit of drama, Roger comes a
little bit, just.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
A little bit of oh my god. Well you know,
it's an oh my god moment.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And so when he came back from having his cataract
surgery and I took him for both eyes, two different trips,
and you know it would be time, and I was
so good. I was like, Dad, it's time for you
to take your meds. Now you have to take your
eye drops. And you know he's like the worst patient
of all time, I mean, just so bad. And he
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would lay on the sofa and throw his head back
and hold his eye open like he had no muscular
chart to do that without using his fingers so that
I could put his eye drop in for him, and
when that single drop hit his eye, he would do, oh,
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like it hurt or something.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
No, it didn't, it was.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And after about two weeks of that, I'm like, oh,
come on, old man, throw freaking eye drops. You know.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
God, it's not it's it's I guess I should just
say I'm not scared of like the surgery.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I do have a thing about the eye, like you
and I talked about where I can't watch anything to
do with anybody's eyes.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I know the movie.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
No, that's like me with the dentist.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
It's like, yeah, well I have it with the dentist,
honest to God.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
So yeah, there's that. But that's it's not the thing.
It's it's that, it's one more thing.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
In last year, I have lost my father, I know.
Six months later I lost my bonus child, and then
a month ago I lost somebody extremely important to me.
And then like a week later you know well, and
(33:31):
by the way, you've got to have.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You know well, at first it was a little bit
scary at first because it.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Happened so fast that, you know, we were a little
concerned with.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
This, with the turnaround with this.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
It's like, you know, you have a re emerging aggressive
form of cancer.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know, we were making progress here, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Right, So it's just one more thing, yeah, you know,
it's it's don't don't give me a minute to catch
my breath, don't give me a minute to build up
any reserves. Just more on top of me and in
the and the deaths are the big thing. But in
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between all of that, there's been so many small things
but important things they are. But I mean, I mean,
like you know, Lindsay and Josh breaking up, and Bradley
losing his job and.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Just everything.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, but life is full of little traumas and big traumas.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Little traumas and big traumas, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
And it always helps to aish somebody that you are
friends with or somebody you know that you can talk
to and talk through that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Somebody, trust me, you the English support group for it,
you know, it just you know.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I always try to be there and always try to
answer and help if you can.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, I got tissues. Lend me you want tissues.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Actually, I'm having a hot flash.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Slash. My nose is dripping. Is it that so charming
and lovely?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
We just dabbed, all right, We're good. This is what
happens when you're you know, a woman, Yeah, a woman?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, don't you unplug that light? Yeah you do it
may my gosh. But so anyway, it's I don't.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Here's the thing, I really, this is why I sent
you that last message I sent you. I was trying
to decide. And I have this problem a lot. And
you know that I worry about I'm negative by nature,
(36:08):
and I worry about that sometimes because I only want
positive things around you. And I was just a little
bit concerned because I am in a negative headspace right now.
But then I thought, but I'm still moving forward. I'm
(36:29):
still moving forward, you know. I think back, I had
all these grand plans and I'm like, Andrew, I want
to do this and this and this, and I can
do shows and I and that was a huge stuff
for me because I do not like being on this
camera whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I'm much better now.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
I much now, But I was really concerned about that
because I also feel that the people that watch the
show deserve a positive experience, and I was concerned I
couldn't be positive.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
But it's not all roses and fucking.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Right, right, That's where I landed.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
That's where I landed. Is it's not and it hasn't
been right. I keep I always say, the last good
year I had was twenty nineteen. We had a kick
ass here.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Twenty nineteen, we had a kick ass here. In twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
We did, and twenty twenty was shaping up to be
really really good too.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Best year.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah. COVID, yeah yeah, and it can changed our lives.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
But we all boomed together.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
We did. We did.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
It affected everybody on this lanet. It leveled the playing
failed entirely. Didn't matter how much or how much or
how little money you made, aid didn't matter, nothing mattered.
It was us against a killer virus.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Period. Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
But it was traumatizing, you know, I said, big traumas
little traumas. COVID was a big trauma. It literally changed
the way you know people. It created so much stress,
so much anxiety, that it literally altered our doctors. Scientists
(38:36):
now are studying the effects of COVID on the general population,
and it literally chemically restructured our brains to release stress.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Hormones more quickly.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, it doesn't take as much to upset us as
it once did because of going through that experience together.
But you know, and that was hell. COVID was hell,
COVID still is hell. Hell of three hundred people a
week die from COVID in this country.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Still you never.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
See it in the news. You know, there's a lot
of other stuff in the news, and you just don't,
you know, Like I guess they think if you pretend
it doesn't exist, that it will go away.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's never going away.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
It's never going away, and people.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Will continue to guard against it and be careful.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
And you and I both have compromised immune systems for
an entirely different reason, so we have to be careful
when we go.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
To these events.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And you know, where everybody's in your face and everybody's
in your arms, and you're sharing space, you're sharing air,
you're sharing germs, you're sharing for better for worse.
Speaker 10 (39:56):
But the concrud, the kon crud, Yeah, exactly, you know,
I remember in twenty nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It was in No. Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think twenty We were leaving UFO con because we
didn't have it in twenty twenty because of God and
the new as. We were all leaving that morning, and
I was getting, you know, all tucked into the back
of the truck with you guys, and I kept hearing
everybody said.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Be safe, don't die. Yeah, weren't don't die.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
On the highway they were saying, don't die.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah. And then when I did get COVID, it was
up at the stew but not the first year.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
The second year I went. It was so crazy, we
both that was the first time both of us had
had COVID. I think it's the only time.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
The only time we've had COVID was the Sioux in
twenty two, actually twenty two.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Well here's the news flash.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, there will always be another virus, there will always
be another natural disaster, there will always be another death in.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
The family or amongst our friends.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And that is when we have to circle the wagons
and be there for each other. And I think that
a very important part of this world awakening to our
need for each other. That was the real hit from COVID,
being forced to stay away from the people that you
(41:34):
loved the most because it was the only way you
could keep them safe, and understanding that we need what
we have with each other. You know, when the two
of you pick me up in Detroit and I see
your faces, I get this, I get like this flush,
(41:57):
this glow. I mean, I crawl up into his arms,
you know, like to the point where his chest hair
is tickling me through his shirt.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
I can't get close enough.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And then you grab me and start bouncing around like tigger.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah you know, and I'm like, oh, oh, my back,
she's hurting me. Jeff, peeler off of me. And so
that is.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
When you're going through hell, find heaven in the arms
of your loved ones. And you are my loved ones, O,
my loved ones, and you're going to do just if
I have to, I swear to God, if I have
to get on a plane and come up there and
(42:52):
put eye drops in your eye.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
For you, I'm already Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Now you know what that's called a positive affirmation?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm if when I go in on
Tuesday for the evaluation, if they were to say to me, oh,
we can do it.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Today, I'd be like, let's go, let's go, because.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I man, I have a new appreciation for my eyesight,
a new appreciation for sure.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I know.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Well, the chemo messes with my eyes, yeah, you know,
particularly my left eye. And there's nothing wrong with my eyes,
I mean other than I can't see anything up close
with that, but you know, still it does mess with them.
And there are you know, some days I'll wake up
and this eye is so dry. Oh yeah, it drops
(43:51):
and it as soon as I wake up. And uh.
And that's just part of you know, one of the
bajillion side of.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
But ultimately it's the baby girl. She is kid black
nose from me.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
He needed to go outside while she was barking.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
So yeah, okay, we forgot to put her out before.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Sorry, sorry, Well at.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Least there's not six feet of snow on the ground.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah, she doesn't like the snow.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Well after after yesterday and the day before, I wish
it was.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Oh it's all hot.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Oh I know, Jeff, let's face it, honey, you do
not do well. And he I mean anything above sixty.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Degrees, yeah, sixty that would be good.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So see, all right, so let me just you know,
as our our wine's down here, I just want to
make a case in point. Yeah, everyone that is watching
this and is sitting home alone in front of a computer, thinking,
oh God, and I've got this going on, and I've
got that going on, and I have this health problem,
(45:07):
and you know you're not alone, and just the camaraderie
of the three of us tonight and knowing that you
are out there and we are sending all of this
energy your way to lift you up and to live
as the embodiment of examples of how to walk over
(45:31):
the hot coals of hell and be able to say,
my feet were a little chilly. This feels pretty good,
you know. I mean it's hell, is what you make
of it. Yeah, and so is heaven.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
And you know, I am a woman of faith.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I am a spiritual person, but I also believe that
heaven and Hell exists right here on planet Earth.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
And we have to decide.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
And I don't think of you as a negative person,
I really don't. I think of you as as this
bright light. And I know you have your struggles and
I know what they are. I get it totally. And
maybe it is that balance that we strike as inevitably, Lenny,
(46:23):
if I am having a hard day and I get
a text message from you, you up got your coffee
yet immediately because I know we're going to get on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
We're going to talk. You know, Jeff is home now.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, hide from me, you know, and say, oh, I'm working,
I can't really.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Talk right now. Oh yes you can right there, sofa,
Yeah that I saw pictures of that. You know. You
always have to move your daughter off of to give
us space. Yeah, I see, I know all these things. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
And it's what I want to encourage people to do,
is to reach out with each other like this, to
your nearest dat. You know, we've got Candace. Look what
Candace has been through. Yeah, look what Candace has been
through and comes out on the other side with a bright,
beautiful smile, just ready to take on the next.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Day and face hardships.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
M h.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
And in the course of a good, long life well lived,
all of us face hardships and obstacles. And it depends
on how you decide to approach it. They're going to
be in the road. Do you go over them, do
you dig under them? Do you cut around to the left,
(47:50):
do you cut around to the right, or do you
plow right through them?
Speaker 4 (47:57):
I've been plowing right through.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, well look what happened to me. My mother died
in June and July month later. It has a death sentence.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I didn't even have time properly.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
I know, I know it has been so that's when
it's just been one thing after another and.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
All I can do is continue to go forward. That's all.
I even have my on my forward shirt today. Yep, yep,
I see, you know, because I don't know what I have.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
On undershare throw anybody, Okay.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
I just have to keep moving forward. And it's one
as I tell all the guys at work, I mean,
the guys have been asking me lately. A lot of
them is like, twenty eight years. How do you do
twenty eight years? I said, it's one day at a time.
You have good days and you have bad days, and
you come back the next day and you do another day,
and you just try. Yeah, you don't keep moving forward,
(49:02):
and you know, think about how you treat people and
how you want to be treated and just you know,
be in there for people when they need it and everything.
It just you know, it makes a world of difference.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Yeah, it does, it does.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
And you know what, if something's really not a big deal,
don't make a big deal out of it. Yeah, don't
bring the drama, don't bring extra drama.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
I don't have any resentment. I'm I'm not a whiney
kind of person.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
No, no, yeah, I just I just mean, like, if
somebody else is having a hard time, okay, say like,
you have plans with somebody and things get messed up.
If it's not a big deal, don't make a big
deal out of it. Everybody is struggling right now. Yeah,
So any any kindness that you can extend to a
(49:59):
person is well worth it, I think.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Written.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, well, I have my next appointment for my infusion
and my e KG and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
And blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Tuesday morning, Monday afternoon, Christine and I will be making
banana bread.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
We're making brownies with no nuts. We call you.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
The joke.
Speaker 8 (50:28):
It's funny, okay, Jeff got yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
And then we're having the pecan and walnut brownies and
then uh a little tray of chocolates in the middle
because I can't have them.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
I am going and you're not going to any of that.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I know, well in like little tiny tiny, but I've
lost ten pounds, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
We damn I'm good about that. I am not to
tell you because this shit right here, this stuff, this
is the new stuff, which is empty.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
I just took my last pell. Now I have three
days off and yeah, I mean you know, I'm a
sugar addict. Anything that is loaded with carbohydrates, Yeah, it's
going to go live on my ass.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
I knew, yep.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
So it's hard, you know, Jeff just lost weight to
be able to have this.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
Surgeon had twenty. I was down to twenty five pounds
total and thirty. Now yeah, at one time I was
down thirty. But I'm still still keeping it off, man,
because I've changed my eating habits and different things, and
it just you know, made a change to try and
to do this.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So yeah, and they did with me too.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Because this particular drug elevates as a tendency to elevate
blood sugar. Blood sugar stays too high can create It
can be bad. Yeah, you can go into a coma.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
You can die. Yeah, since I don't want to die it.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
That means that I can't and watch TV and eat
a bag full of Hershey's.
Speaker 11 (52:12):
This is at noight, which somehow seems wrong, a small
sacrifice weight against you know, keep living or you know,
have to find another drug that allows me to be
a lazy ass that.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Eats a lot of chocolate.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
But I I have embraced this. You have embraced your situation.
Jeff has embraced his situation. And maybe that's the key,
you know, in the same way that I say, embrace
your fear, and you rather of all power to embrace
(52:56):
what we're going through right now and just keep going
because there is there is light on the other side
of this, and the light so.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Bright, so bright, And then guess what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Another trauma is going to come down, something else is
going to happen.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
But if we.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Fight to maintain our equilibrium, our balance, our emotional stability
through all of it. I see you're flirting with your
dog while I'm talking to you.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Stuck out.
Speaker 9 (53:34):
Right and reach out, reach out to each other, reach
out to the people that you love and you trust,
and you know, whatever you tell them they get it.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Reach out to those people.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
And you would be amazed at how much we all
have in common.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Everyone is going through something. Yep.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
So all right, well yeah, okay, we're being thrown off
the air.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Because you know, Bill, it.
Speaker 5 (54:12):
Always helps to stay calm and try and keep the
drama away.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
The drama envelop you and not stay calm through it.
It just makes it worse.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
It does, and it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
We get to decide how we are going to react
to any given situation.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
We make a choice.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
And so that's why I wanted the two of you
on a world awakening tonight, because we all have this
in common.
Speaker 3 (54:45):
All of us have this in common.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
It's called being alive, being human, Yeah, being human, And
I want those out there that perhaps might be suffering
in silence to know it doesn't have to go that way.
And so I think both of you with all my heart.
I couldn't possibly love you more. And yet tomorrow morning,
(55:10):
when I wake up, I will love both of you
just a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
I truly will you.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Have a wonderful, wonderful night.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
And to those who are with us this evening, as
we sign off, we will just remind you always to
lead with love in all things. Lead with love, be kind,
and always be that beacon of hope for those who
need help, who are lost, who need to follow a light.
(55:44):
Always be the light you seek. I love you all,
have a wonderful night. Let me I'll call you in
a minute.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
Okay, they
Bashi good e.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hy Sorry, have you calmed down now that your technical
issues have been resolved? Maybe I want you to say
that I took my meds.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Good, look at my meds.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm my ten o'clock meds, which means by eleven o'clock,
I'm gonna be down for the count.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But I've got a good hour in me before they get.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh god, okay, I didn't even bother doing an introduction
because anybody that watches this show knows you, knows both
of you as family to me.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Family.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You are my sister, Lenny the Pooh, my paranormal husband Jeff,
who I share you know it works so well for me,
well for me, I can't even tell you. I can't
wait till September. You, sir, better be up and around
(02:25):
end of September. I want to be able to play paranormal.
I have supernatural shenanigans with you. Yep. Okay, So we're
going to talk about the trials and tribulations today.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh my god, there's a mosquito in here. Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So the title of tonight's show is when You're going
through Hell, keep going description though the famous oh I
can't read this without my cheaters.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
My god, well I can't read it anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Oh jeez, I no, and that's something else we'll be talking. Yeah, yeah, okay,
now I can see it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Though the famous phrase is widely attributed to Winston Churchill,
which I don't think he's the one that said.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I think he stole it. But that's okay, that's just
me tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We will put we will put it to good use
for our own purposes. Reason enough to explore the concept
of trials and tribulations, all the obstacles we each face
on a daily basis. It's just our consistently chaotic reality
effect of life. Confronting the demons that routinely rear their
(03:32):
ugly heads, whether it is a natural disaster, a sudden
illness or loss, a car wreck, a fall, A disaster
in one form or another, tends to befall us all
too frequently. My Lenny and Jeff Bowling will join me
for a relevant, uplifting message for all of those who
feel like they are going through hell alone.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You are not alone. No anybody you know, and ask
them what they are facing right now.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Most people, just you know, they internalize their issues, They
internalize their fears about what's coming their way.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But when we reach out to each other and.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Open that box, which sometimes seems like Pandora's box, it's
amazing the relief yea, it brings, you know, the peace
of mind that it brings, and Jeff, you.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Have you know, everybody knows what I'm going through. So
we're going to just skip right over that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But you're facing double hip replacement, no small matter, a
real big deal, an operation that they didn't even conceive
of until about fifty years ago. And so you have
a whole new chance at having a whole new life
(05:05):
because of medical technology and your willingness, your strength, your resilience,
your perseverance, your.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Just your courage to go through something that difficult.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And I know what it is because my mom fell
and broke her hip years and years ago in twenty
twelve and we were all out, the whole rest of
the family was out on the set of the Conjuring
when they were filming the movie, and we got a
phone call that Mom had fallen and broken her hip
(05:42):
and had to just pack up and drive back from Wilmington,
North Carolina, on the set and got into the hospital
un mass.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, all five of her children were there and.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I saw what she went through and stayed and helped
in her recovery.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So I understand what you're facing.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I also know that you are perfectly capable of not
only facing it, becoming out pure and perfect and whole
on the other side of this and.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Free of pain.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I celebrate the fact that you weren't willing to just
live with the pain, that you just got to the
point where this is something.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That has to be done. So the floor is yours, darling,
and then we'll move to Lenny.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But the floor is yours because I want you to
the extent that you wish to share your experience.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, my experience, you know, with the hips. I have
been working with the doctors for over five years on
the snow and I finally just couldn't take it anymore.
And the one doctor told me that he only does
the shots and didn't do surgery. So we talked to
(07:06):
the primary doctors and we got a new doctor and
we're moving right along. And definitely was something on MI.
I'm heavy on my mind about going in for the surgery.
Has been, you know, not easy for me to you know,
to handle, I guess, but I am getting through it
(07:28):
good and it's remarkable. It's remarkable what's happened and how
the pain's gone into left hip. You know, the only
pain I have now is I have some muscle pain
and some other things you know that are all surgery
related pain. It's not the hip pain anymore. Right, But
(07:48):
we have the right hip who's screaming and yelling now
and waiting for ins turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing. He's
in the background, growling out of it.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, she's unhappy because she can't be.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
With she can be with us.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Bring her on off, all right, I don't know, Amaze,
there's my baby girl. And never forget, always remember, and
never forget, Lenny, I helped her first.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We know.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, So had my pre surgery visit this morning with
the doctor for the for the second hip, and he's,
you know, he's pretty up for it. And uh, he says,
we're going to take care of it. He says, but
just always remember that things might not be the same
(08:43):
as the other one. He says. Things could go where
it may hurt more afterwards, it may not hurt more afterwards,
it could just collect nothing. And he says, but you know,
they're never the same. He said to me today and
is just kind of remember that. And it's been hard
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getting around for I don't know, the first two weeks,
three weeks getting around with a walker, yeah, because I
really couldn't move much. But over the weeks it's gotten different,
and I've transferred from a walker to a cane. And
lately I've been catching myself walking around the house and
stuff without the cane, and then I have to take
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and find a cane. It's because I've left it somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But isn't that a good sign? Now?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, isn't that a good sign? But you know, I
was very touched personally, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
When you know, Lenny let me know that you had.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Some trepidation about having this surgery, and because of the
experiences that you have had, you know, paranormal experience, it
is near death experiences. You come from an entirely different perspective.
And I understood that because I've had, you know, not
(10:11):
like experiences specifically, but like experiences generally. And so one
night we had a conversation, and I hope that it
eased your mind and that it made your transition into
this process a little bit easier to be able to
(10:34):
speak so openly about what you were feeling. I think
people all too often, as I said earlier, internalized, we attended.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
We don't want to ever ever.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Be perceived as weak. No, especially men. You know, you
guys have a real issue.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
We're stubborn about that.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm just saying, not for nothing, but you know, and Bill,
I know you're listening. Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
And I've had I've had that since i've been healing
here two times where I've got up and did things
when you know you're being told you can't or shouldn't,
and then you take and you get up and do
it anyways because I'm so stubborn about it.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
But yeah, and then and then you're in pain after.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been I've been walking. I've been
starting to walk. I started with the quarter of the
quarter of the block here in front of our house,
started walking around and stuff like that, and then I
I kind of graduated to the quarter mile block around
around the corner here and started walking around. But then
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when I get home, you know, then I've got the
muscle pain from the incision site and some of the
muscles around the hip and things that are just surgery
related stuff. But the left hit the right hip says uh, Hey.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm still hurt. I'm not hurt yet.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I'm hurt and I'm screaming at you because you did
what you did. But the problem, the thing is, it's
not a problem. But the thing is, I've got to
get that left hip strong so that i can move
when the right hips week.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So, yes, how.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Are you feeling about going now that you've done the
surgery and you had concern maybe maybe say what some
of your concerns were going into surgery?
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Well, I was just as andre as you stated. I
just was. I had the feelings the things that with
the near death experiences and the things that have happened
in my life, I was worried, you know. And so
that's what the big part of it was in that,
you know, and now that I've been through all the
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pre pre surgery stuff and all that thing, and the
group that did the actual work that day, the people
in surgery prep and the anesthesiologist and all the other
doctors and nurses and everything, we had such I mean
I had such a good day with them, Yeah, you know,
(13:15):
just because they were they were upbeat, and you know,
I could joke with them and they joked back with you,
and it just you know, made me feel really good. Yeah,
you know, and just you know, all the things that do,
I mean, they make you do a lot of things
for yourself now when you're prepping for surgery.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
But that was all right. I joked at them about it.
I told them, Hey, what are you guys doing today?
What am I paying you for today?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm doing all the work here.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You know, I got to do this, I got to
do that and everything. And you know, so they were,
you know, joking around with me and everything. And then
the anesthesiologists come in, and of course he asked a
bunch of questions and then we talked about the blood
clots and the NDS and stuff like that, and he
was really interested in that and things, and so it was,
(14:16):
you know, it made it a good, a good feeling
going into it. And I mean, I don't even really
remember getting to the operating room. They gave me a
shot before we left the pre opp area, and by
(14:36):
the time I got to the surgery I may have
seen the lights and stuff like that, but I don't
remember anything until I woke up in the in the room.
And I don't even remember in waking up in recovery.
I more woke up in a room hospital room that night.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
They took me right upstairs, but it was but I did,
I did feel like they had me strapped to the
bed because they had my They had apparatus.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
They put between your legs and then they strap your
legs to that apparatus so you can't.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Move it's any.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Anyway, you know, and you know, so that you can't
roll or get out of bed or any of that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I don't know. It sounds more like torture to me,
but you.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Know, yeah, it was. They had strapped and everything. God,
we'll take a picture next time.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
But it was, you know, just not being able to
move when you get But they also had the pulsating
compression socks fill up with air and then release and
fill up with air and release. They had those on
me as well. But other than.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That, blood pressure cuffs right that and then you release
that they swell back. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, kind of like a UD pressure cuff, but they
go from your knees down to your ankles and stuff.
But yeah, so I kind of felt trapped when I
first woke up, you know, not really what was going
on and stuff, and I had to pull the blankets
up and take a look to see what was going on.
(16:21):
But I mean other than that, I got it and stuff.
And then the next morning, I mean, the physical therapists
were there bright and early the next morning, and we
got out of the bed and had to move around
the room and do some things. And then they took
me to physical therapy and it was on the other
(16:42):
end of the the ward from where I was at,
and I had to walk all the way to the
other end, so it was, you know, it was okay.
I mean, with the walker and everything, I got okay
and didn't really have a bunch of trouble. They actually
made me do some stairs while I was there. And
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then they have what they call a car, and it
looks like a car almost, and you have to figure
out how to get in and out of the car
after the surgery and stuff, and you need to be
able to do all that before they let you go home.
And then after I got all done with that, we
(17:25):
went back to the room and got ready to come home.
And that's how quick it was. And just there's a
whole bunch of things that we have to watch for
to not do once you're home, and you got to
make sure you don't bend at your hips on that
(17:47):
side of your body over ninety degrees. You can't go
to forty five degrees because of the because the muscles
are still loose and they don't want the joint to
locate and all this kind of stuff. They got to
let the muscles you know, tighten up and everything. But
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it really, it really was a positive experience, you know,
you know, after worrying about it. And I thank you
for talking to me because it really did help.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I'm so glad and.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And I just you know, I feel so much better now,
especially with the you know, the left side and the
right side screaming at me. Yet.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But you're going to have a whole new life, Jack,
I know, a whole new life will reclaim your life
and and your your youthfulness. And frankly, when I saw
you in April, I know, I said to Lenny, I've
never seen that man look so good.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And you were in terrible pain, but I didn't know it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You know, you had a glow in a vibrancy about you,
and I was just, you know, I was hoping you
were just so thrilled to see me. I was hoping
that was the reason. But you know either way. You know,
I know that Lenny is your primary caregiver, of course,
but I also know that I know you, and I
(19:20):
know that you developed friendships with your caregivers in the hospital,
your doctors, your staff, and you know I did too.
I mean, it's you know, I'm I'm I wouldn't say that,
I'm bashful, I'm modest. Don't make me slap you. I
can leap right through that screen.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
You know, I'm all magical and shit, and I right
through that screen.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I'm shot.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Oh but you know, like.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'll walk into my doctor's office and you know, I'll
whip my shirt up and I'll like, can you just
look at this puckering thing that's.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Going on here?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You know, just let and it all hang out, and
you know, and I'm thinking of you sitting, you know,
sitting on that table, and yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
They do that. They do that. You know, they come
in and ask, well, you got to do this, and
I said, oh, don't worry about it. I'm used to
it because my primary doctor office is a residency program
for the hospital, and so I see different doctors, whether
it be male, female, all the time. Yeah, and so,
(20:30):
but the experience just really was a positive one and.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Once we get the mads figured out.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Yeah. And the thing is that I've you know, I
always try to what I want to say, be kind
and be polite mm hmm with people, yea, even though
you're hurting. Yeah, that's something I've over the years have
really had to work with. But I felt that I have,
(20:59):
you know, made a bunch to changes in that area
and everything and stuff, and I'm still working at well.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think you're just lovely.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And you know, I've got a caregiver team from my oncologist,
my pa, my you know, I like everybody, my triage nurses,
my infusion nurses. I've got like ten women that take
care of me. And one male tech in the pet
(21:29):
scan areas who I see and you know, it was
so nice.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
His name is Tyler.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And when I went in a few weeks ago, and
I was feeling very vulnerable because I was doing this
you know, massive test by myself, and I was, you know,
just feeling particularly emotional and vulnerable, which I had never
had before because I always had my sister, you know,
(21:58):
my my my support system right there with me all
the time. And so going in there, I was a
little nervous. I guess I think I probably knew that
there were some changes going on and that you did
want to detect them, and I was, you know, I
(22:20):
felt a little bit of trepidation about that, you know,
based on what I wrote the day after you know,
which I covered I think last week on Soul School.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It was really like.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
An awareness that there were some rapid changes happening that
weren't particularly good. And when he walked in the room
to give me the infusion of the toxic waste that
they have to to light your whole body up and everything,
he said, you know, I was going to take today off,
(22:57):
and yesterday I saw your name on the schedule for today,
and he said, I came to work specifically so that
I could see you. And I got up out of
my chair and wrapped my arms around this lovely young man.
I know all about his wife, I know all about you,
I know all about his dog. Okay, I've had I
(23:19):
think five or six pet scans, and so you know, when.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
People say, oh, you're glowing, I'm like, well, if.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
You had as many pets skins I've had, you'd be
glowing too. And it when you form those bonds with
the people that are there to help you and that
you know, they really care about you. For him to
(23:48):
rearrange his work schedule to make sure that he was
there to take care of me that morning was such
a gift and such a blessing. And I know that
you developed the same kind of relationships with your care team,
and I think that's wonderful that that has happened for
(24:08):
you because you will always remember what these people did
to give you a new life.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Jeff, you know, there are people doing a job too,
you know, and you got to you gotta know that
they're there to do their job and try to make
it light and airy for everything going on, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, Well, they know they're not working on a piece
of machinery. They know they're working on a human being
with feelings and frailties and concerns, and you know, and
for them.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
To be sensitive to that the way that your.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Team has been and my team has been, you know,
I think that I've always said, you know, teachers are
a wonderful part of our society what they give of themselves,
but our medical care givers are equally special people that
give up themselves and have a calling to do what
(25:10):
they do. Now yeah, yeah, it's important, and now we
need to get little miss Lenny to take care of
an issue of her own.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
My bright eyed but sister.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Just to surprise how fast it's come on.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, Okay, well nobody knows because I haven't said anything.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well I sort of just did.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
So well yeah, but I mean explanation wise, well, Candice knows.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But yeah, I have cataracts.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I right, at the same time of the surgery, I
noticed I was having a lot of issues with my
left eye and it was and then I totally I've lost,
totally lost the vision in my left eye. Now, so
I have I have cataracts on both eyes. There's three
(26:09):
types of cataracts. My left eye has has all three
types and one of which is is like a fast
growing type, which is why I can still see through
my right eye.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
So yeah, next Tuesday I go for an evaluation and
we'll slip in a cataract surgery around Jeff's other hip.
So just one more thing. I mean, I know it's
not like life threatening or anything like that, but you know,
(26:45):
I have an autoimmune disease. Anytime you mess with my body,
anything could go wrong, and so I you know, it
always makes me hesitant.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, okay, come through this with flying colors.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I was worried this was going to happen. Hold on
so far.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
What did she do? She plugged everybody.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yeah, she's trying to sneak in between us here and she.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
She's like, amazing, amazing, it's Auntie Anny here. Honey, you
need to behave now. You'd be a good girl and
Mama will take good care of you. Oh so sweet baby.
Where my peanut is? Butter Cup?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Where are you? Oh I'm sorry, peanut, Buttercup is.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
She's asleep underneath the blankets. It's like one hundred and
fifty degrees here, and she's underneath the blankets.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Oh god, these little ones, you know, they're so precious.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But oh my god, no, she's you know, she used
to be a really good co host, remember back in then.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I do. Yeah, she used to be and I older
in my arms.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I would get the sweet kisses. She would go for
the lip lard, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I mean, she's like, oh god, I'm going to go
take a nap and.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Get a full body rub and go a little run
around before sleepy time. But all right, Maisie, I'm sorry, honey,
you're not going to get to see Peanut Buttercup. She's
he's indisposed tonight. That's okay. You know, we got we
got the family dog here, so.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
She'd rather see humans and dogs anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't know how we ever, you know, I understand
why dogs were domesticated from war. Yeah, you know, how
could human beings even get through this life? And I
remember Max and how close Max was and Conion, I
mean went everywhere, did everything with him. And now you've
(29:08):
got your little Maizie, and uh, I don't know that's
about well, other than Peanut Buttercup and little Sam. I
am over here before he is either lucky dogs, very
very very dogs. Yep. Yeah, So Lenny, I would like
(29:29):
you to wear the Pirate eye patch.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, the pink one.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Yeah, the Pirate eye patch.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Next.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
So the subject of a world awakening tonight is again,
if you're going through hell, going h and it's about perseverance.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
It's about having the courage to just.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Walk on, to make every day important, to make every
day part of your healing. And I know Lenny that
you're afraid that you're going to have an issue when
Jeff needs you most. I know that, Okay, And I'm
(30:18):
just saying it out loud. I haven't said it to
you before. I don't mean to spring that line on you,
but I'll have a live broadca but concern. I know you,
and I know your concern is that you're not going
to be able to do everything that you need to
do to help him while you're going through your own
personal hell.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I get that, but let me assure you.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
My father had about the worst cataracts that you can
have and glaucoma and had great doctors at the VA
that have He's going to be ninety years old in.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Three now.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Sees with twenty twenty vision and all that I had
to do. Now, please keep in mind that if my
father gets a hangnail, oh.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I know, a little bit of drama, Roger comes a
little bit, just.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
A little bit of oh my god. Well you know,
it's an oh my god moment.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And so when he came back from having his cataract
surgery and I took him for both eyes, two different trips,
and you know it would be time, and I was
so good. I was like, Dad, it's time for you
to take your meds. Now you have to take your
eye drops. And you know he's like the worst patient
of all time, I mean, just so bad. And he
(31:51):
would lay on the sofa and throw his head back
and hold his eye open like he had no muscular
chart to do that without using his fingers so that
I could put his eye drop in for him, and
when that single drop hit his eye, he would do, oh,
(32:14):
like it hurt or something.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
No, it didn't, it was.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And after about two weeks of that, I'm like, oh,
come on, old man, throw freaking eye drops. You know.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
God, it's not it's it's I guess I should just
say I'm not scared of like the surgery.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I do have a thing about the eye, like you
and I talked about where I can't watch anything to
do with anybody's eyes.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I know the movie.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
No, that's like me with the dentist.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
It's like, yeah, well I have it with the dentist,
honest to God.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
So yeah, there's that. But that's it's not the thing.
It's it's that, it's one more thing.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
In last year, I have lost my father, I know.
Six months later I lost my bonus child, and then
a month ago I lost somebody extremely important to me.
And then like a week later you know well, and
(33:31):
by the way, you've got to have.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You know well, at first it was a little bit
scary at first because it.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Happened so fast that, you know, we were a little
concerned with.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
This, with the turnaround with this.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
It's like, you know, you have a re emerging aggressive
form of cancer.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know, we were making progress here, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Right, So it's just one more thing, yeah, you know,
it's it's don't don't give me a minute to catch
my breath, don't give me a minute to build up
any reserves. Just more on top of me and in
the and the deaths are the big thing. But in
(34:19):
between all of that, there's been so many small things
but important things they are. But I mean, I mean,
like you know, Lindsay and Josh breaking up, and Bradley
losing his job and.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Just everything.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, but life is full of little traumas and big traumas.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Little traumas and big traumas, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
And it always helps to aish somebody that you are
friends with or somebody you know that you can talk
to and talk through that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Somebody, trust me, you the English support group for it,
you know, it just you know.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I always try to be there and always try to
answer and help if you can.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, I got tissues. Lend me you want tissues.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Actually, I'm having a hot flash.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Slash. My nose is dripping. Is it that so charming
and lovely?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
We just dabbed, all right, We're good. This is what
happens when you're you know, a woman, Yeah, a woman?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, don't you unplug that light? Yeah you do it
may my gosh. But so anyway, it's I don't.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Here's the thing, I really, this is why I sent
you that last message I sent you. I was trying
to decide. And I have this problem a lot. And
you know that I worry about I'm negative by nature,
(36:08):
and I worry about that sometimes because I only want
positive things around you. And I was just a little
bit concerned because I am in a negative headspace right now.
But then I thought, but I'm still moving forward. I'm
(36:29):
still moving forward, you know. I think back, I had
all these grand plans and I'm like, Andrew, I want
to do this and this and this, and I can
do shows and I and that was a huge stuff
for me because I do not like being on this
camera whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I'm much better now.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
I much now, But I was really concerned about that
because I also feel that the people that watch the
show deserve a positive experience, and I was concerned I
couldn't be positive.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
But it's not all roses and fucking.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Right, right, That's where I landed.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
That's where I landed. Is it's not and it hasn't
been right. I keep I always say, the last good
year I had was twenty nineteen. We had a kick
ass here.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Twenty nineteen, we had a kick ass here. In twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
We did, and twenty twenty was shaping up to be
really really good too.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Best year.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah. COVID, yeah yeah, and it can changed our lives.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
But we all boomed together.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
We did. We did.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
It affected everybody on this lanet. It leveled the playing
failed entirely. Didn't matter how much or how much or
how little money you made, aid didn't matter, nothing mattered.
It was us against a killer virus.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Period. Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
But it was traumatizing, you know, I said, big traumas
little traumas. COVID was a big trauma. It literally changed
the way you know people. It created so much stress,
so much anxiety, that it literally altered our doctors. Scientists
(38:36):
now are studying the effects of COVID on the general population,
and it literally chemically restructured our brains to release stress.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Hormones more quickly.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, it doesn't take as much to upset us as
it once did because of going through that experience together.
But you know, and that was hell. COVID was hell,
COVID still is hell. Hell of three hundred people a
week die from COVID in this country.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Still you never.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
See it in the news. You know, there's a lot
of other stuff in the news, and you just don't,
you know, Like I guess they think if you pretend
it doesn't exist, that it will go away.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's never going away.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
It's never going away, and people.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Will continue to guard against it and be careful.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
And you and I both have compromised immune systems for
an entirely different reason, so we have to be careful
when we go.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
To these events.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And you know, where everybody's in your face and everybody's
in your arms, and you're sharing space, you're sharing air,
you're sharing germs, you're sharing for better for worse.
Speaker 10 (39:56):
But the concrud, the kon crud, Yeah, exactly, you know,
I remember in twenty nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It was in No. Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think twenty We were leaving UFO con because we
didn't have it in twenty twenty because of God and
the new as. We were all leaving that morning, and
I was getting, you know, all tucked into the back
of the truck with you guys, and I kept hearing
everybody said.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Be safe, don't die. Yeah, weren't don't die.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
On the highway they were saying, don't die.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah. And then when I did get COVID, it was
up at the stew but not the first year.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
The second year I went. It was so crazy, we
both that was the first time both of us had
had COVID. I think it's the only time.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
The only time we've had COVID was the Sioux in
twenty two, actually twenty two.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Well here's the news flash.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, there will always be another virus, there will always
be another natural disaster, there will always be another death in.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
The family or amongst our friends.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And that is when we have to circle the wagons
and be there for each other. And I think that
a very important part of this world awakening to our
need for each other. That was the real hit from COVID,
being forced to stay away from the people that you
(41:34):
loved the most because it was the only way you
could keep them safe, and understanding that we need what
we have with each other. You know, when the two
of you pick me up in Detroit and I see
your faces, I get this, I get like this flush,
(41:57):
this glow. I mean, I crawl up into his arms,
you know, like to the point where his chest hair
is tickling me through his shirt.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
I can't get close enough.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And then you grab me and start bouncing around like tigger.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah you know, and I'm like, oh, oh, my back,
she's hurting me. Jeff, peeler off of me. And so
that is.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
When you're going through hell, find heaven in the arms
of your loved ones. And you are my loved ones, O,
my loved ones, and you're going to do just if
I have to, I swear to God, if I have
to get on a plane and come up there and
(42:52):
put eye drops in your eye.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
For you, I'm already Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Now you know what that's called a positive affirmation?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm if when I go in on
Tuesday for the evaluation, if they were to say to me, oh,
we can do it.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Today, I'd be like, let's go, let's go, because.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I man, I have a new appreciation for my eyesight,
a new appreciation for sure.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I know.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Well, the chemo messes with my eyes, yeah, you know,
particularly my left eye. And there's nothing wrong with my eyes,
I mean other than I can't see anything up close
with that, but you know, still it does mess with them.
And there are you know, some days I'll wake up
and this eye is so dry. Oh yeah, it drops
(43:51):
and it as soon as I wake up. And uh.
And that's just part of you know, one of the
bajillion side of.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
But ultimately it's the baby girl. She is kid black
nose from me.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
He needed to go outside while she was barking.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
So yeah, okay, we forgot to put her out before.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Sorry, sorry, Well at.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Least there's not six feet of snow on the ground.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah, she doesn't like the snow.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Well after after yesterday and the day before, I wish
it was.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Oh it's all hot.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Oh I know, Jeff, let's face it, honey, you do
not do well. And he I mean anything above sixty.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Degrees, yeah, sixty that would be good.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So see, all right, so let me just you know,
as our our wine's down here, I just want to
make a case in point. Yeah, everyone that is watching
this and is sitting home alone in front of a computer, thinking,
oh God, and I've got this going on, and I've
got that going on, and I have this health problem,
(45:07):
and you know you're not alone, and just the camaraderie
of the three of us tonight and knowing that you
are out there and we are sending all of this
energy your way to lift you up and to live
as the embodiment of examples of how to walk over
(45:31):
the hot coals of hell and be able to say,
my feet were a little chilly. This feels pretty good,
you know. I mean it's hell, is what you make
of it. Yeah, and so is heaven.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
And you know, I am a woman of faith.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I am a spiritual person, but I also believe that
heaven and Hell exists right here on planet Earth.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
And we have to decide.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
And I don't think of you as a negative person,
I really don't. I think of you as as this
bright light. And I know you have your struggles and
I know what they are. I get it totally. And
maybe it is that balance that we strike as inevitably, Lenny,
(46:23):
if I am having a hard day and I get
a text message from you, you up got your coffee
yet immediately because I know we're going to get on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
We're going to talk. You know, Jeff is home now.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, hide from me, you know, and say, oh, I'm working,
I can't really.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Talk right now. Oh yes you can right there, sofa,
Yeah that I saw pictures of that. You know. You
always have to move your daughter off of to give
us space. Yeah, I see, I know all these things. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
And it's what I want to encourage people to do,
is to reach out with each other like this, to
your nearest dat. You know, we've got Candace. Look what
Candace has been through. Yeah, look what Candace has been
through and comes out on the other side with a bright,
beautiful smile, just ready to take on the next.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Day and face hardships.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
M h.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
And in the course of a good, long life well lived,
all of us face hardships and obstacles. And it depends
on how you decide to approach it. They're going to
be in the road. Do you go over them, do
you dig under them? Do you cut around to the left,
(47:50):
do you cut around to the right, or do you
plow right through them?
Speaker 4 (47:57):
I've been plowing right through.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, well look what happened to me. My mother died
in June and July month later. It has a death sentence.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I didn't even have time properly.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
I know, I know it has been so that's when
it's just been one thing after another and.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
All I can do is continue to go forward. That's all.
I even have my on my forward shirt today. Yep, yep,
I see, you know, because I don't know what I have.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
On undershare throw anybody, Okay.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
I just have to keep moving forward. And it's one
as I tell all the guys at work, I mean,
the guys have been asking me lately. A lot of
them is like, twenty eight years. How do you do
twenty eight years? I said, it's one day at a time.
You have good days and you have bad days, and
you come back the next day and you do another day,
and you just try. Yeah, you don't keep moving forward,
(49:02):
and you know, think about how you treat people and
how you want to be treated and just you know,
be in there for people when they need it and everything.
It just you know, it makes a world of difference.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Yeah, it does, it does.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
And you know what, if something's really not a big deal,
don't make a big deal out of it. Yeah, don't
bring the drama, don't bring extra drama.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
I don't have any resentment. I'm I'm not a whiney
kind of person.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
No, no, yeah, I just I just mean, like, if
somebody else is having a hard time, okay, say like,
you have plans with somebody and things get messed up.
If it's not a big deal, don't make a big
deal out of it. Everybody is struggling right now. Yeah,
So any any kindness that you can extend to a
(49:59):
person is well worth it, I think.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Written.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, well, I have my next appointment for my infusion
and my e KG and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
And blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Tuesday morning, Monday afternoon, Christine and I will be making
banana bread.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
We're making brownies with no nuts. We call you.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
The joke.
Speaker 8 (50:28):
It's funny, okay, Jeff got yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
And then we're having the pecan and walnut brownies and
then uh a little tray of chocolates in the middle
because I can't have them.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
I am going and you're not going to any of that.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I know, well in like little tiny tiny, but I've
lost ten pounds, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
We damn I'm good about that. I am not to
tell you because this shit right here, this stuff, this
is the new stuff, which is empty.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
I just took my last pell. Now I have three
days off and yeah, I mean you know, I'm a
sugar addict. Anything that is loaded with carbohydrates, Yeah, it's
going to go live on my ass.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
I knew, yep.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
So it's hard, you know, Jeff just lost weight to
be able to have this.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
Surgeon had twenty. I was down to twenty five pounds
total and thirty. Now yeah, at one time I was
down thirty. But I'm still still keeping it off, man,
because I've changed my eating habits and different things, and
it just you know, made a change to try and
to do this.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So yeah, and they did with me too.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Because this particular drug elevates as a tendency to elevate
blood sugar. Blood sugar stays too high can create It
can be bad. Yeah, you can go into a coma.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
You can die. Yeah, since I don't want to die it.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
That means that I can't and watch TV and eat
a bag full of Hershey's.
Speaker 11 (52:12):
This is at noight, which somehow seems wrong, a small
sacrifice weight against you know, keep living or you know,
have to find another drug that allows me to be
a lazy ass that.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Eats a lot of chocolate.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
But I I have embraced this. You have embraced your situation.
Jeff has embraced his situation. And maybe that's the key,
you know, in the same way that I say, embrace
your fear, and you rather of all power to embrace
(52:56):
what we're going through right now and just keep going
because there is there is light on the other side
of this, and the light so.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Bright, so bright, And then guess what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Another trauma is going to come down, something else is
going to happen.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
But if we.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Fight to maintain our equilibrium, our balance, our emotional stability
through all of it. I see you're flirting with your
dog while I'm talking to you.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Stuck out.
Speaker 9 (53:34):
Right and reach out, reach out to each other, reach
out to the people that you love and you trust,
and you know, whatever you tell them they get it.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Reach out to those people.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
And you would be amazed at how much we all
have in common.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Everyone is going through something. Yep.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
So all right, well yeah, okay, we're being thrown off
the air.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Because you know, Bill, it.
Speaker 5 (54:12):
Always helps to stay calm and try and keep the
drama away.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
The drama envelop you and not stay calm through it.
It just makes it worse.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
It does, and it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
We get to decide how we are going to react
to any given situation.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
We make a choice.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
And so that's why I wanted the two of you
on a world awakening tonight, because we all have this
in common.
Speaker 3 (54:45):
All of us have this in common.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
It's called being alive, being human, Yeah, being human, And
I want those out there that perhaps might be suffering
in silence to know it doesn't have to go that way.
And so I think both of you with all my heart.
I couldn't possibly love you more. And yet tomorrow morning,
(55:10):
when I wake up, I will love both of you
just a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
I truly will you.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Have a wonderful, wonderful night.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
And to those who are with us this evening, as
we sign off, we will just remind you always to
lead with love in all things. Lead with love, be kind,
and always be that beacon of hope for those who
need help, who are lost, who need to follow a light.
(55:44):
Always be the light you seek. I love you all,
have a wonderful night. Let me I'll call you in
a minute.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
Okay, they
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