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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome to a Biscaysing, a horror podcast where we celebrate
all things spooky and mental health.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Okay, I'm your co host Mark and I'm Billy.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
As you can see, we finally brought him back.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
From the dead, which is ironic because we're talking about
this is a memorial episode for the late great Ozzy Osbourne.
I'm your co host Josh, and today we are rocking
out to the sounds of two thousand's Little Nikki, which
Ozzy Osbourne had a powerful influence on.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
There was much more or Ozzy and Black Sabbath and
that that I remember there being for the last time
I watched it.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, I was really surprised rewatching it this morning how
much there was an influence was here where it's like
there's an entire like subplot around the entire climax of
this movie that just is about Ozzy's like big show
in the city. What I was like, I don't remember
Ozzy Osbourne having this big of a role in it
(01:28):
except for the ending. Like that's the one thing about
this movie that I remember in terms of Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Well, that's like I didn't remember all the posters of
Ozzy in his room I started looking at that and
I was pointing out some and then I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Like, there's Ozzy, There's Ozzy. There's wow. Just like three
quarters of it was Ozzy.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, what did you expect? He's the Prince of Darkness.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I get that. I just didn't remember. I just didn't
remember it being that many posters of him in there.
That's that's all it was.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I am.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I might be of the mind already in this conversation
because I am younger than both of you guys. I
was not a huge like Ozzie fan growing up, Like
I know Ozzy from.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
The Osbourne's And I actually heard.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
A radio DJ locally to us that was talking the
other day about how each generation knows Ozzy Osbourne differently
to where you have. You have an entire generation that
know him as Bat Black Sabbath, you have an entire
generation that knows him as a solo artist. You have
an entire generation that knows him as the Osbourne's and
(02:39):
then his big influence with the MCU and some of
the early Marvel movies as well. So it's like it's
kind of crazy to think that, like there are multiple
different generations that know Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
For multiple different things.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I mean they even had their own ghost show. It
was like what was Osbourne's believe the rating system with scale.
I'm gonna lie, I'll watch that all the time when
it comes run, I keep that on the background.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah that was the son that did that, I think.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, which like out of every like you know,
we've seen a lot of people go out this year,
and you know that have unfortunately passed passed on, And
I gotta say, Ozzy Osborne might have like the most
kick ass way to like go out, because I mean,
(03:32):
what was it like two three weeks ago, like he
played his final show.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was like two weeks before a sold out crowd,
and like proposedly, I'm not sure how how true it is,
but I read a couple of things that said he
quit taking all of his medications like a couple of
weeks before to make sure he'd be able to sing
and be as much of himself as he could be.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And there are like I don't know if either of
you guys watched that like live stream, but there are
like certainly like performances, like moments in the performance where
like he was like trying to like actually get up
and like interact with the crowd, but like he knew
like his like I guess security or handlers, whatever you
want to call him, like couldn't knew he couldn't like
(04:17):
stand for that much.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So that makes a lot of sense. I think he
was actually strapped into that chair.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think he was too, but you could tell, like
there are parts that you can watch in that performance
where he's like actively trying to like get up and
like you know, resurrect or like show guy.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
There's a clip where they show him turn around and
it looks like he's saying, let me fucking stand.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
At one point, honestly fucking os warn ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I was gonna say that that sounds like word for words,
something he would say.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So, I mean it's probably one of the biggest start
to get banned from the Alamo for a second amount
of time.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I will also say too that like he's also
probably I think when you think about the definition of
rock star, I think Ozzy is like the perfect embodiment
of that because he has these like legends and lores
about him. But I mean he's also done every damn
near every drug underneath the sun.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
And then like.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Still like we all have to like party and like,
you know, his influence between like you know, the Osborne's
oz Fest, Black Sabbath. I mean that list is just monumental,
to say the least.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, Yeah, he was, he will be a legend for
a very long time.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I think he solidified himself as a legend kind of
long before I mean where we are now in the
grand scheme of timelines.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But I agree with you less. Yeah, I mean he's
in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice, once
for Black Sabbath and once as a solo artist. And
you know you're big when Maynard is doing a tribute
song to you during your induction. M Granted it wasn't
(06:20):
the best song I've ever heard Maynard sing, but still
it's the fact you had Maynard James Keenan is doing
one of your songs. Is your introduction into the Hall
of Fame?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, and then you have movies like Little Nikki that
revolve almost exactly around this.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
This is like such.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
A weird anomaly in a multitude of careers.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Apparently the funny thing is so many people know Little Nikki,
but apparently it was a theatrical flop, which is I've
never done the second one.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I believe that for one. For one, how do you
market a movie like Little.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Nikki It's it's awesome.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It is an awesome movie.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You have a you have the Son of the Devil,
half breed of an who's also the half breed with
too an angel that met at a heaven hell mixer,
which is such a crazy concept in and of itself.
But this movie also just has like Rodney Dangerfields in
(07:28):
this movie is like one of his last performances in it,
Quentin Tarantino's in this movie.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
It's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This is like the first movie that I can think
of that like publicly like celebrates like Popeyes.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
And there are Dana Carvey's in it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
There's also two I don't know if you guys caught
this or not or if you know this, but The
Wedding Singer is one of my favorite Adam Sandler films
I know, if not my favorite, and the John love
Its character from that movie, uh late like auditions as
a rival wedding singer, and he sings Ladies Night and
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when he gets into Hell in the beginning of the movie,
the song that he's intros into is Lady's Night, so
I'm also kind of curious if this movie is like
set in that universe to where you're seeing other Sandler crossovers,
because we also see Chubbs in this.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Movie as well. Yeah, and he's got his hand back.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's just it and it's still all in the hips
all over.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I mean, just the fact that they took that character
of always in my mind thought that it was a crossover,
like all.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
The movies kind of messed together in his universe.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But I feel like, out of all the characters in
the movie, then Josh is favorite with nipples.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's okay. I assume that you were big Bird.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
As long as as long as you, Josh Pineapple were good.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Serious.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The also worth mentioning is that is Clint Howard, who
many people may or may I know, is the brother
of Ron Howard and is a legend in his own
right when it comes to genre pitchers, like.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yes, just because he makes so many cameo appearances, just
these little characters might be in it for two minutes
or ten minutes, you don't know. He was in Whendy
and Terrifier three too.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah, he's in Terrifier.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He's in Terrifier threes and Water boy, man, I mean
he's done. He's done a shitload of movies. Like he's
a he's a good character actor. It also happens to
be in How the Great Stole Christmas?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Then Howard Dick the first time you saw this movie
and he's going up to see, uh, what's her name?
And yeah and looks in the wrong window. How many
people did that take all take by surprise? I wonder
the first gallery vallery?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, I forgot about that scene.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Des.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I've only ever seen this movie all the way through.
I've only ever seen it like once before that, I've
seen like bits and pieces of it, and I was like,
I totally forgot about this scene. And then like the
longer I watched, I was like, that's Clint Howard. God
bless that man.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I think the funniest part is when Adam Sandler's just like,
good luck there nippoles, and he's like, I don't, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I mean it take confidence to look that good. So, yeah,
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Speaker 1 (12:35):
I don't know, there's there's so many like good moments
in this movie that it's.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Like Wether I forgot Whetherspoon too. Yeah, I'm saying not
Reech Weatherspoon, the dude that stole his flask. Oh, I
forgot his name, when Weatherspoon.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
When John something like that, John Witherspoon, it was the
dad from Friday.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, oh yeah, I don't nobody go in that bathroom
for thirty to forty five minutes.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I totally forgot he was in there as well. Yeah,
John Witherspoon.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, there's so many people in this movie that's like
the hell where they come from.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, I mean it's great.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You also have like I mean we talked about, you know,
one of the angels. I missed it on my first watch,
but having just watched Happy Gilmore Too this past weekend
as well. Adam Sandler's Wife's also in this movie. Yeah,
and she plays one of the She plays like the
angel that's on the right side of Reese Witherspoon when
(13:46):
you're watching the the scene at the end where they're connecting.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
The ginger one.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
The other thing I loved was at the end, even
though he wasn't in it his name, was that he dedicated,
like Chris Farley was the new aerobic constructor or whatever,
that she fell in love with the mom his little
Nicky's mom fell in love with the Chris Farley character.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Chris is not in this movie, not in.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
The movie, but he's mentioned.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, she says something. She says something about I met,
uh my new aerobics instructor Chris Farley or something like that.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, that and at the end stuff that is telling
you about each character as it's closing out, one of
the things says that she gets with Chris Farley.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh okay, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
That which I know that was like a real close
friend Adam Sandler. So the fact that he included that
is even.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's he broke the internet.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I didn't break the internet.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, not yet.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Uh yeah, I think that's That's one of the things
that I've always really appreciated. But I'm Sandler is I mean,
you know, even even watching this movie, like you know,
I I texted our group chat earlier today and I
was like, this movie makes me want Popeye's like really.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Bad, like.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And like, but like most people, like you know, Popeyes
doesn't have that commercial appeal that like AMC or McDonald's
or Taco Bell or like you know, these more universally
celebrated brands have the And I mean he did the
same thing with Subway and.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Habby Gilmore. You know, like.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Even there right now with Habby Gilmore, they are doing
promotional stuff with Abby Gilmore too, as at Subway. And
you know, if we were to ever get a little
nikky sequel, I agree that like think that like Popeyes
would be on board for it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, I feel like they paid for promotion in the
movie and he just took it and ran with it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I mean still, but like what I'm saying is like
he's always taken these like smaller brands and like really
magnified them. Like He's always kind of taken those like
small the Little Guy and essentially like brought them to
like a grander scale the same way that he did
with like Subway, like and Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
He did it again with with uh Popeyes.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And it's such an it's weird because like with here
the same way that it wasn't Gilmour, It's such an
integral part of Nikki's identity on Earth to where like
it's almost exclusively like what he eats. Like there are
like five or six scenes with him just eating Popeye's chicken.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And then I've introducing all the demons to chicken. You
put it in your mouth and you let it slide
down your throat hole.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Wait you are you?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's one of the Yeah, it's one of the best scenes. Also,
Like I I want to say, probably one of my
favorite scenes is the scene where they're all sitting around
and uh, after Todd learns about Nikky's like relationship to
like Hell and the Devil and stuff, and uh, they're
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playing the records backwards and he's like oh, He's like,
you know, they're like try to do it. He's like, oh,
watch this, and he pulls up Chicago Chicago record and
he's like he's like, oh, Todd's like, I love Chicago.
I love this album. But then he like starts playing
in it. It's like spins it backwards and it's just like.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
But after they did the thing of No, he always
talked straight, you don't.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It doesn't work for this, but try Chicago and.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They're over there.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Laugh.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
He's like Chicago kicks ass.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Which I gotta say also to like give it up for.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The uh trying to think about those guys Peter and
who's the other guy that was hanging around Peter.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Paul and Mary? I fucking find it.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Nah.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
No, it was the two guys that were like always
like stoners.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And hanging around with him, the metal heads.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, so the metal heads, Like Peter was played by
Peter Dante and I can't remember the other guy's name,
and it's like.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He had pretty much his usual cast that's in all
of his movies or makes appearances in his movies.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
He did.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I I'm just trying to credit the characters properly, Mark, Yes, yeah, yeah,
maybe it was John.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah yeah, but like yeah, Peter and Peter and John.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Uh were probably some of my favorite characters in this
movie the way that they were like the stereotypical like
metal heads, but like thought that like everything up robbing
around like Hell and Lucifer and Pain and Torture were
like awesome, like the exact opposite of like the normal
responses you need as well.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
When when little Nikki gets hit by the train or
the bus or whatever and splatters blood on him one
of them, and the stain stays there the rest of
the movie.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I noticed that. I was like, wait, is that it's
supposed to be like like shirt design?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And then like I went back every wounded, I was like, nope,
they they left the bloodstain on there.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That's that's metal as fuck right there.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
The fact that what they bought a plane, stocked everything
up forgotten.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The chilot led Zeppelin's tour plane.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And they ended up down in Hell and they kind
of not took over, but they the Nikki's bedroom.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So I was like, all right, I can see that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Check checks out for those guys.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
They made best friends with them.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
That made sense. But why the devil have to be
a Jets fan? Man, he couldn't give Marino that Super
Bowl for me.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
He became an announcer and won an Emmy.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I could be Look, it could be worse. He could
have been a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah, I've got family members that are.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So Billy is a long time established Dolphins fan. That's true.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I don't have a team.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I just know that Cowboys have a really bad losing
streak for for several years in counting. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Other favorite scenes is uh.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
This whole movie just yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But like the first like I love the like the
his like first ideal of like evil when he's like
sitting there talking with h with Beefy is to go, oh, yeah,
you could change this into anything. And he gives him
this like laundry list of things and he changes it
from a coke to a pepsi and he's just like, Bro,
you could have changed it to anything. And he's just like,
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but I changed it from coke to pepsi.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
To bring up the fact that he uh the movie
made a reference to that rivalry and the jab at
each other in between.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
He was crazy when he goes to sleep on the radiator.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Oh no, I mean, and you expect, even though he didn't,
you almost expect BF to start singing because he did
the little kid's voice.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
That's what I was expecting. But yeah, BF was crazy
with the kid's voice.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I love that coming out of him.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I don't think there is a bad, bad part to
the movie. It's just a fun movie from beginning to end.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It's so crazy to me that this movie like doesn't
get brought up with in the grand scheme of Sandler movies,
because this movie, I feel like, just gets overshadowed by
a lot of other projects from this era, whether you're
talking about Bailey Madison or wedding Singer Happy Gilmore or
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water Boy. You know, even Mister Deed's I feel like
gets brought up more than Mister.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Minister is like the d I'm not complaining, it's like
Big Daddy, Like, there's so many others.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
There's so many other movies that like get overshadowed from
this era, and this is like the only like were
adjacent that Sandler's ever gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It was so far it was in his style of movie,
but the way the movie was was out of his wheelhouse.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And honestly, I think if you remade this movie today,
the perfect person that would elevate this movie pass Sandler
would be Jack Black. I feel like Black would play
an awesome especially if you're seeing Dear Santa last year.
And also to pick a destiny, I feel like this
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is more in the wheelhouse of something for Black than
it is for Sandler. I mean, Sandler historically has played
the good guys you know, or guys that are down
on their luck or buffoons or goofballs, whereas this one
he just kind of plays a misfit and what a hero.
(23:59):
He is a hero, He's a he is a misfit
and he's kind of like they have like the standard
Sandler standard qualities. Yeah, but it's you're right, it's such
it's so out of his wheelhouse. But this movie, like
you go through it, you go through the entirety of
the cast, every performer here, with the exception of Harvey
(24:20):
Guy tel As The Devil feels like a feels like
an anomaly, and a lot of people's cinematograph filmographies.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I mean, it's like we could sit here and talk
about the movie all day and almost every scene is
gonna come up the more we talk about it, like
down to when they're trying to kill him and slam
his hat on the table and the roommate looks up
as like I've always wanted to kill someone.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah, can I have a try? And then he's like
letting out all his press.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Kevin Spacey God, which in like we talk about like
scenes from this movie that like did not age well.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
That scene aged incredibly well, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
If you know about Kevin Spacey's wild ass in.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
The last couple of years that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Charges didn't the charges against him end up getting dropped.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, so they did get dropped, but now because they
got dropped, he's been trying to like circuit a uh,
he's been trying to circuit a comeback on the comic
con scene. And the every time a convention announces him
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as a guest, they have to turn the post off
and will not respond to it.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Like it's almost like convention kryptonite. It's crazy. But honestly, given.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
The what we know, not a huge.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He had some good movies, but still.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, So while we're kind of hopping around, I
thought that I would bring some trivia to you guys. Okay,
So this is the fourth film of Adam Sandler's Apparently
he has a lot in common with stan Lee. This
is the fourth film that he has a love interest
with the initials VV, where we have Patricia Arquette playing
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Valerie Vernon. Then there was Verdica Vaughn from Billy Madison,
Virginia Vinnett from Happy Gilmour, and Vicki Valancourt from water Boy.
And also worth mentioning that Hube Halloween also has a
fifth one with Violet Valentine, so we've brought Dana Carvey
(27:04):
an incredible scene from him earlier. Actually broke his ankle
while filming the Globetrotter's basketball scene and he ended up
on crutches.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I didn't know that there was an alternative ending where
the blind deacon overreacts seeing Nicky's son, but it was
replaced with the where are they Now? Montage, which I
think we haven't brought up. But this movie is.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Really good at also having running gags throughout the course
of it, Like it's not just they have like a
one and done kind of thing. But the the reoccurrence
of the of the Tarantino.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Popeye's is a really good one.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But the Tarantino one, I think is the one that
I was like specifically thinking about.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Where again totally out of his wheelhouse he wasting.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
You're in the Devil get Away.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
So we didn't even really talk about.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
The Reese. Uh I friends who plays Nikki's brother in
this movie. Out of the the main antagonists, Adrian in
this movie incredible performance.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
But one of the wildest trivia facts for this is
that uh he turned his birthday is the same day
as Ozzie's death.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He did. He was He's been in a handful of
movies that were really cool, and he played good characters
in Like I really liked him in The.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Replacements, I say Replacements.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, he was really cool in The Replacements.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So my knowledge of him is like exclusive to Spider
Man properties because he played the He played the lizard
in The Amazing Spider Man, and then he played a
hippie in The Final then a movie. So outside of
those two movies, this is the only other thing I've
ever seen man, So the g one.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
The biggest one before that that I can think of
was The Replacements with Keanu Reeves and Gene Hackman. Okay,
and it's it's a movie kind of like Necessary Roughness,
where it's a football comedy but it's fun and it's
he played. He had a good part in that movie too.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So yeah, he was a field goal kicker that had
a gambling habit.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, and he'd come out on that he'd come out
getting ready to run out to go kick the ball
and be like smoking a cigarette. It's stupid stuff like that, I.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Mean, honestly, like he's like he's a really good here, Like, yeah,
he's a well worth adversary for Nikki to have to stop, essentially.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Better than Zeus tiny Lister. Yeah he I mean he
did well at his part, but Adrian overshadowed him.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, So like there's there's one of those things that like,
you know, sometimes I think the more compelling aspects of
an antagonist are not necessarily brute strength, which is what
Lister very much embodies. Also a Friday recollab again, but
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I think some of the more compelling ones are the
ones that are eccentric, like we see with.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Our friends.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
As part of the reason I think he's a much
more electric villain than Lister is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Because he can only play certain roles. Really, he was
a wrestler in the eighties and nineties I think, and
he was right up there rivaling the size of like
Haul Coogan when he did that. That was one of
the big things. And then he started doing movies. It
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was in like Friday and.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
It's also done The Dark Nights.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, he just kind of shows up in things, but
he's always like he always kind of plays like almost
that same exact type where he's like the muscle guy.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, well, I mean he was okay in The Fifth Element.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Oh yeah, he was the President of the Fifth Element.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, so, I mean he didn't do a lot in it,
but he was the president of the Element.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I keep forgetting that he was in that.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's one of my favorite movies. I love The Element.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
That also is one that is outside of the norm
for a lot of those actors.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeahah, and it kind of put Mi Lachob in that
kind of role deleting action.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Lady Shember never seemed to walk away from it.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
She had a lot of money, but Little Nikki did not,
sadly unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
And I agree with what you said earlier.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
A lot of it had to do with marketing, because
I don't remember a big marketing thing for Little Nikki.
I didn't see Little Nikki till it was on DVD.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I don't know if I saw this one in
the theater or not.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
They also released this movie at like a really weird time,
like this was if I remember correctly, this was like
push to be like a Thanksgiving or Christmas movie, And
that's such a weird thing to put this on, Like
I feel like this is a movie that you could
release in like September or October and it would be
like really good or like March or April and it
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would do really well.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah. Well it was released November ten, two thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
See, yeah it happened. What I find amusing is when
they started the fight scene between him and Adrian where
they were both throwing the little characters and stuff out,
like he put out the squirrel and stuff, and it
reminded me of the fight between morning Star and Sandman
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and season one of Sandman where they were having their
fight doing something very similar, just more dramatic.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
One of my favorite scenes though, and it went a lot,
was just it was the fight, but it was them
in the flask where you couldn't even see the fight.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Just that right there was just I love that.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Thank the ball.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Think they got so much out of that and you
couldn't even see the fight that was going on. It's
just crazy and shows you how good he is with
the movies and all.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think that's one of the things that like Sandler's
always been able to do like really well. And I'm
kind of enjoying this like renaissance he's having with Netflix
where he's kind of he's kind of getting away. I
think a little bit from those like Goofyer roles. Like
obviously Gilmore is kind of a return to that. But
you look at the movies like he's done in the
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last like five or six years where they're talking about
uncut gems, hustle, you know these more like you know,
even like you're so not invited to my bar missfoot
is like they're more like serious movies, and I think
it's like really demonstrating his capability. But like, I mean,
this is Sandler like in his prime before he like
goes off and starts experimenting. Because like his follow up
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to this movie was pun Strong Love, which if you've
ever seen that movie is like a knockout performance from him.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, I mean the movie I really didn't like that
you did was with Jack or Jill. I mean, but
there's a lot of people that don't like we'll talk
about that. We don't talk about what was the one.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
For him and his buddy pretended to be gay so
they could get benefits. That's uh, Larry, Larry, that was
actually pretty fun. Yeah, that was really good.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Like I said, I've always been a Sandler fan, and
I mean I know that Josh is because we got
in the conversation about it. Before we were sitting there,
just sitting there watching wedding Singer for no reason at all.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I mean, I I was lucky enough to see Billy
Madison in the theater back when I was in high school.
I think it was high school, maybe in middle school.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Mark is teaching himself.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Mark doesn't give a ship to ask. That's all right.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I aged myself way earlier in the show, so it's
only fair that you do it now.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, you're the young and the little guy. It's all right.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
I think I've made good life choices thus far.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know, being friends with you is questionable, but you
know that's just truething's questionable.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Marked over their scream and released the evil.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
There in the flask.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, and it's it's just so funny that the whole
build up to this movie was Ozzie being at it
for like two minutes.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But it is like it was a great two minutes.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I was gonna say, like, it's one of the best
like cameos I think I've ever come across in any
type of medium, because he essentially like it like leans
into like all of these like stereotypes and like mythologies
that have been placed around him and like just was like, it's.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Just part of the great part of out. It was
all Adrian had to do was transform again, but he didn't.
Instead he just Holy Ship. Ozzie grabs it and bites
his head off.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
And and the fact the fact that I loved was
was in the good side.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
He was, he wasn't from hell. God gave him the
thing to take.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
Yeah, that's the twist I love because it's like when
you think of you're thinking of everything else, dark, this whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
The fact that he comes out of this glowing orb
is like crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Now talking about Ozzie. He's had He has worked with
probably three of the most recognizable guitarists throughout throughout rock
and heavy metal, with Tony Iomi and Black Sabbath, Grandy
Rhodes and his a solo career than Zach Wilde on
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the album With No More Tears and Mama I'm Coming Home.
He's he had a way of picking working with musicians
that ended up becoming the legends.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I think it's probably like one of the things that
has made him so prolific as a entertainer and I
think will continue to solidify him as one of the
greatest voices in rock, you know. I mean he's been
at the pioneer for a lot of you know, the
early days of like what we consider the foundation for
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heavy metal, as well as you know, being on the
forefront of other things like reality TV.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Like he was like the legend.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
He was the goat, and there is a reason that
like his legacy will surpass anything set here on this
podcast and anything that we ever produce.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, yeah, he's he's probably if he's not in the
same level of he's very close to the same level
of somebody like Elvis.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, I mean I would say for like I would
say for probably, I would argue for like our generation,
he's probably like both of our generations, he's probably more
iconic than Elvis.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah, I mean, he's transcend through all the generations and
still relatable to a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
So, but you gotta wonder how many of them people
that were in the crowd for that performance two weeks earlier,
knew that that was the last that was almost like
his goodbye closing out with MoMA I'm coming Home.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I mean I thought that I wasn't there, you know,
I didn't realize, like I think, I think the thing
about that concert is it made me really understand where
he was at because, you know, I'd read and I'd
heard stories.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Over the years, the last couple of years where.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
He had canceled stuff because of his health and I
didn't realize it. And then they were like, oh, yeah,
he's got Parkinson's and like, this is why he's bad.
And like the fact that, like he raised over one
hundred and ninety million dollars for charity on top of
it being like going out like a rock star, and
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they just solidified him as rock star.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And the interesting thing about that is so many celebrities, Oh,
I raised money for this, I raised money for that,
I donated this, I donated that. And he was just like,
fuck it, we're going out in style.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
And the fact, like we brought up earlier that he
wanted to go out as him so he stopped taking
all the medication so he can do it.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
That, I mean, that's even more respectable.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, I'm just saying I don't respect Josh right now?
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Why? Oh gotcha?
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Well, I think that's gonna do it for us.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
On this episode of The biscasing this bonus episode for
the Summer of Fear, We're gonna have another bonus episode
for you guys next week with Fantasia Fest, but we
are also kicking off anime August Mark was first on
our docket.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Oh I'm kidtying that one off.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
Yeah, I said this guy last night.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, I don't pay attention to that shit. I usually
asked you the day before.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Did you actually finally pick something?
Speaker 5 (41:41):
He did?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I did. I think we're gonna go with Ninja Scroll
just because it's a fucking classic and it's violent and
Josh gets his fix of anime movies. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
It's currently streaming on Netflix, so if you guys would
like to watch along with us and doing the conversation
with Nicks as of this podcast, As of this recording,
it is going to be streaming on Netflix. But we'll
be back this Wednesday at six pm Easterner Standard time,
talk about Ninja Scroll Mark, where can people find you online?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Hanging out with you?
Speaker 5 (42:15):
All we needs invited.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
We're still on the right Stuy.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yeah, we'll be negotiating that contract in the coming weeks.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
We have contracts.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Now, there's a lot of There's been a lot of
things that have changed since you've been here.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
In like the five weeks I was gone or whatever.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, okay, you can find me a letterbox of.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
You guys can invite me.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I am currently also on letterbox at Captain Nostalgia. Also
this weekend four Victims and Villains I will be inviting
in depth coverage for a Queer Screams film festival as well.
More information add Victims and Feelings dot net or you
guys can go to Queer Screams dot com as well.
But until next time, remember, the longer you gaze into
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the abyss, the more the abyss cases back into you.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Rock on and long live Ossie