September 3, 2025 • 62 mins
We’re staring into the abyss of 2014’s The Voices to see what will gaze back. Surprise September is back for another year and while Josh is on the road covering GenreBlast this year, Billy is up first with our first pick in the horror comedy, The Voices. In this episode, the gents talk about the rare fact that Ryan Reynolds is in a horror movie, schizophrenia & more.
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Abyss Gazing: A Horror Podcast is a production of Victims and Villains is written by Brandon Moore, Mark Moore & Billy Tabor. Music for this episode comes courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (https://bit.ly/agktheme) & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms).
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, you are listening to a biscazing, a horror podcast
where we celebrate all things spooky and mental health.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm your nonscript reading co host Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And I'm your handsome devil of a co host Brandon,
and I'm in a better mood this time around. Well
I know I'm not out. They have lost pretty bad yesterday,
but I'll get through it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And I'm putting up with both of these knuckleheads with
Josh Gone Billy and yeah exactly, And we are at
Milton's Fixture and Fawcett's this week on the movie I
picked for surprise September called The Voices.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, I was confused with your introduction there for a second. Well, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What'd y'all think of the movie?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Had you seen it before this?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Me?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, yes, okay, had you seen it before this?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I've never heard of it until he brought it up
the other day. But I'm glad that I did see
it because it was a very, very good movie. I
really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It came out as like an independent release anythink straight
to Blu Ray when it came out and I saw it.
I rented it from a red Box when it came
out and it was awesome then and it's still awesome now.
It's actually on the shelf in my movie collection.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Did you keep the copy from red Box? Or did
you buy that movie?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We had a used game and movie store called cool
Stuff in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Be oh, you got it down here?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh man, yep, that's where I got it from. But
they only saw like toys and used video games now and.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Shout out they used videos video and video game stores.
Shout out to those guys.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And this is one of those rarities where all of
us liked the movie because Josh said he liked this
movie too, So it was really a rarity that everybody
on the podcast actually liked this movie, a good one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He's irrelevant, he's not here.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But uh tho, it does not count. No, for those
of people that haven't seen it, it is with Ryan
Reynolds and and A Kendrick, and it's about Ryan Reynolds
being a psychopath.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You forgot, Yeah, Jim Arden's hottest craps.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't forget. I knew one of you Tube would
bring it up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
He's changed borderline unreasonably hot.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I mean, Anna Kendrick's pretty freaking hot too, But I
mean I don't know, and this is this.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Is one of those movies that Ryan Reynolds did before
he got discovered as far as being able to sing
in Japan, right when he got you know what I'm
talking about where he went over there for the mass
singer kind of that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm not sure, but this was done when he was known,
but before he blew up, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Twenty fourteen. He did green Lander in before this, didn't
he He was.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Doing a mix of big releases and independent releases he
did like this one. He did one called Paperman, which
is kind of weird. He plays an imaginary friend that's
a superhero.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So I love this movie because it's kind of a
mix of the comparison I can say is like a
look who's talking with the animals talking and everything, but
it's still got the comedy seriess for like all our
mental health stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Essentially, Ryan Reynolds is playing someone who's schizophrenic and hear
his voices and sees things. Okay, it was. It talks
about the genetic aspects of some of these diseases because
he talks about his mother having the same issues. So
(04:17):
it's it's it's an interesting movie with the way that
they deal with schizophrenia on I'm assuming it's schizophrenia on
the almost comedic level.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I just thought he was being a Laza Thornberry. He
can talk to animals and no one else can. Did
y'all not get that reference?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I get the reference, Okaya the.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Same Wait a second, Mark didn't get it?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So no, no, I didn't you.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Ever seen The Wall of Thornberry. No, I never watched
that long story short. She got this like mystical power
to talk to animals and no one else can. Just her.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I mean you could have just gone with doctor Doolittle.
Everybody would have got that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, well that's not me. I don't like them too little.
I've only seen one two versions of that, and one
was the awful Downey Junior and the other one was
Eddie Murphy. They both suck.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
There's another one that's really old, from like the fifties
or something.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, you're probably there when it came out March anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
A good chance we had better taste and than their
old evil times or.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Whatever the fuck it is. Get off my line. Yes,
my podcast. So, but uh, I don't know about y'all,
but I like how they used the colors in the scenery,
how to differentiate when you were seeing from his eyes
(05:49):
off the meds and you know what he sees versus
when he's on the meds and everybody else, to distinguish
what was fantasy versus what was real. The fact that
they had the bright colors when it was fantasy, I
mean later on it because they had the butterflies in it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But yeah, ping though at first when they show his
living situation, it just looks like a normal place, right
until they show him on his meds and then you
start getting glimpses of what the place actually looks like.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It was a nice touch to who he ended up
being in the movie. But did they ever reference why
he was living in a bowling alley? Did I miss that?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I don't think they did.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, they never did, And that's a question I've always
had about this movie.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
That's a nice touch. If, like I Sayarah Killer would
live in something like that, you know, it's a nice touch.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
But yeah, I mean, that's why I was wondering why
nobody obviously went there to begin with whenever people started dying,
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's where I would go.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But they had his But they had his address because
they gave it to Anna Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean I'd be pissed off if a heart O
came to my door and brought me like dumb little cakes.
I don't want that. I won't like lasagna.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well well wait a minute, wait a minute. She was hot,
She's always hot, but she had her own things. She
was Stalkrish to me.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah. I thought that this is going to be like
a U season two dial and she was going to
find out he killed what's her face? Uh, Fiona? Yeah,
and then she was like, oh my god, finally someone
got rid of that bitch, and then like they do
it together. I really thought that was going to happen, But.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That would have been okay to make it a sequel
and all. But uh yeah, that that I was thrown
in there too where she was Stalkrish And it just
depends on I don't know if it was because we
were seeing still kind of through his eyes, or if
that was really her character throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, well, they can always do a prequel. The boy
is the boy east that voice, it's the voice.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I mean, they do so many prequels now, Yeah, it
would just be par for the course.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Y'all have already made it clear. You know, it's hot
and everything else, But how do you feel about her
attitude and the way she treated him whenever? You know,
he was trying to be nice to her, at least
try to be nice from his perspective, here's a bit
oh yeah, leaving a voice smel on his work phone
so he doesn't get it, so she doesn't go to
(08:32):
she shine.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, that that was dude, She's an idiot. That place
looked freaking sick, like they cook you like great Japanese
food they do. Like there's a freaking dude. Dude in
Kong Fu Like dude, like.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He was doing an Elvis impression before that was.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, like dude, Yeah, like, she's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But but don't remember, don't forget Bryan Reynolds. He knew Karate.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Oh yeah, when you're sitting there the bar with him,
I know Karaoate.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah that was good. But I mean you got to
remember in that scene too, it was early on, so
even that stuff. Was it just because we were seeing
it through his eyes and it was actually that legit
or was it actually run down and he perceived it
as being like cool, are you talking about the direction?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, the boss said that he saw them, he saw
him sitting in there when he won't by it, So I.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Mean, and he talked about how good it was too.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Okay, Okay, I missed up. You don't notice I just
missed that one thing. Uh? And are we all going
karaoke or what?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, we got to get marked to karaoke.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Mary, I want to know.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Josh can't answer because he's not here. So we're going
down the road. Billy, what is your karaoke song? Where
do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I've done Garth Brooks songs. I have done Sir mix
a lot, Baby got Back, I have done Waterfalls. I
probably could do other ones to probably do a jelly
roll song or something. They don't do that. I could
do a rock song too.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I mean, you can do anything but jelly roll. Please,
for love of God?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right, Mark Georgia line whatever, don't don't don't get
me started on that man. They ruined the country anyway? Mark,
what are you doing.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Having a drink in the crowd?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah? Singing a song?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You're not on stage.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If you were to do a song, well, what' it
be like? You just give us something dude, pequila, Okay,
fair enough, I'm different. I'm gonna do I'm gonna I'm
gonna get everybody in their fields because this song will
get everybody drunk and sas along. I'm doing Hunger Strap
by Temple of the Dog.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
People that I thought for sure you were gonna go
with Don't Stop Believing from Journey.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Ah, Noah, I'm a big fan of a Journey. To
be honest with you, I.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Feel like Journey was very underrated from the eighties. They
had some excellent songs.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You know it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
What's underrated? This moodey we were talking about, I.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Know it's kind of overlooked by a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Look at look at me getting the train back on
the rails.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh, you're taking your role as Josh like semi serious.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
As we got to see Pumpkin in the background.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, she's just chilling.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So what are your what's some scenes that y'all like
in this because I'm bringing out scenes that I mean, again,
I like the movie itself. So are there any scenes
in here you like? Actually really like like one of
your favorites.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I'll have the meal prepping them out just a little
like first off, like did he did he have those?
And you have to go to his store, and.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You didn't at the hardware store walking with.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The bag of hand tools in one hand and a
big thing wrapped of tupper wear, and okay.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I didn't see when the sheriff was that was a
lot though. There's no way all that fit in that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Bag and the and the sheriff together, And the sheriff
watched him walk to the truck and put it in
and asked what happened. He thought it was referencing that
because her body was still in the back of the truck.
He was referencing the front of the truck in the window.
And he's like, cardboard fender. That dude, that was crazy.
(12:49):
I'm not gonna lie I love the cardboard fender on
my go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Huh. I was gonna say I didn't because it's been
a while since I owned the movie, but it's been
a while since I watched it. I forgot about the
cardboard fender and cardboard repairs on his truck. And he's
just like driving down the street with no windshield after
heading the deer.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And he's like tells the sheriff, oh, I'll have it
fixed by the night, and he actually, if you pay
attention when it shows him going home, he's got the
windshield in his hand and he's actually sliding it back
in place and pretty go windshielded in front of his house.
Back on, winshields were easy to replace versus now where
(13:35):
they have to have all the extra stuff like for instance, mind,
I had to go to a shop because it's got
all the extra sensors and everything. You can't just replace it.
They got to adjust all the sensors and on the windshield.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
We had to replace one of the little little videos
side mirrors and my daughter's car or not mirrors windows,
and that thing was a small fortune because it has
the antenna that runs through the little window. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Safelight repair was not safely cheap.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I got a frame that works for them. So I
heard that too much.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I feel like that's one of those companies like Bank
of America, that the employees don't use their own services
because they're so bad.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
They don't pay well either.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah yeah, I didn't have to pay to get my
windshield replaced because I went through my insurance, so I
got lucky.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Who even needs windshields?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah yeah, just nice set of glasses.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, like yours glasses.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Glasses, no glasses. I'm not talking beer goggles.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Oh yeah, I don't have any of that. I have
I have Pepsi zero goggles. This is the same. Actually,
I was drinking last week. Not just kidding, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Look, so the whole thing that started in the movie
was when he was taking Fiona home. His his voices
is what told him to kill the deer the way
he did, and then he accidentally kills Fiona.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, so so so did he really because we know
at this point he's not on his medications.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Did he really accidentally kill her or because of the
lack of medications? Is that just how he's perceiving it, right?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And that's which is that like a different personality for
him that did the killing, because mister Whiskers could be
his alter ego personality kind of deal. Also, did you
notice that he had a voice for the deer. You
had a voice of the cat and dog. He didn't
have a voice for that fish in the restaurant. He
(16:07):
literally was talking to the fish and he was making
the voice out loud and everything, just say, because the
fish didn't react at all. So what made that different
than the everything else that had the voices.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The deer is what made me think of Elizah Thornberry
because it was just like talking to him. I'm like, oh, okay,
because at first I didn't get so that was like,
what twenty minutes into the movie, you're know what's going
on like that? So I'm just like, okay, he's talking
to his okay, way, either he's got some weird, weird
deal with some with some wizards, or he's got something
(16:41):
else going on.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well. See, you get to hear the voice that is
being used for the cat and dog early on, but
it doesn't show them in the first scene that you
hear the voices because he's like, I don't want to
talk to you right now and closes the door and
he's getting shirts. So you if you're not if you
hadn't seen the movie, you may think, oh, well, he's
got some roommates or something and he's talking to them
or some friends that are over or something, and uh,
(17:05):
later on it shows that those voices one is mister Whiskers,
the other one is what the dog's name is? Bosco? Right, yeah, yeah,
and and they're like the good and bad angels on
his shoulder kind of for his voices. That's the way
it seemed like Bosco was the good angel and mister
Whiskers was a bad angel. That dog's always better than cats.
(17:26):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, I'm gonna I mean, I'm more of a cat guy,
but I love it. I have two dogs. I love
them bye, and my favorites are cats.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I had to say, I know Josh has two cats.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That cares about Josh things. He said. He's blasting his
drawn there right now, he is. He hasn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Apparently they're the film.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
The camera went out, good good karma.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
As we're showing behind the camera now because nobody he
knows that that happened. And I don't know if he's
doing a review for Genre Blast.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So but wait what wait, what's wait Josh, He's a yeah, yeah,
but like it is such a perfect like because we okay,
so like we have me and my wife not be crazy.
(18:24):
I don't know, we have we have characters for our
cats and our dogs. Our dogs are very sweet and
it's still loving people. Our cats, especially Pickles. Pickles is
a male cat that has a Hitler mustache, no joke.
He is a he loves drugs. He loves rock and roll,
he loves women.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
He is just have to stay in the house so
he doesn't invade Poland.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yes, but we have a backstory that he used to
that he's a Vietnam Vet and now this is his
last life. He's part of the Akuza.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So no, I really don't have anything against cats. It's
just but I have to be careful because of allergies.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But that is the thing is cats, like like Pumpkin
back here or she is, like she looks sweet right now.
When she does something, she has this look in her
face like, oh yeah, that hurt, I'm gonna do it again.
Like that's how cats are. Like cats like that. This
is perfect because like cats are just so like I
don't care if this hurts you. I'm gonna do what
(19:27):
I want and I'm gonna love it. I'm gonna kill this,
I'm gonna kill that animal, and it's gonna be the
grest thing I ever did. Like that's just perfect. And
then Bosco was always like, also, cay Man, you're a
good boy, because I think what dogs is, which I
hate that people are mean to animals, but like you
can like yellow a dog and be aggressive to him.
(19:48):
They're gonna forget about it, and they're gonna love you
no matter what. I hate that there are people that
abuse that very much like like my dog duty. They
peed on my nephew's pillow and I gave him a
little thinking and he was upset. Two minutes later he
forgot about it.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It was all low.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
But my nephew's pillows also a Georgia bulldog pillows. I'm
glad he did it anyway.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Well, I mean we're talking about the cat and dog
being the good and bad angel. Later on in the
movie The Dog Rot, he gets out and when they
go and discover who Jerry Ryan Reynolds character is, and
they call the police, and when he's out, it comes
down to he's hearing the voice of mister Whiskers. Alison,
(20:38):
Lisa and Fiona and the girls are all saying, well,
we give up. Maybe the cat's got the best idea.
Just listen to the cat the whole movie. The cat
has had the worst ideas to begin with, so they just.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Or the best, huh, the worst or the best?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
He's like, we fill up a couple of fridges with
some eggs. So what do you think if you.
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
If we're talking about murder, what do you think is
that the best idea? Red Rob got it murder?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
What's the case that they.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But No. One of my favorite scenes though in this
movie is when mister mister Whiskers almost said mister Pickles
because of Brandon, but no, you're good. You're good, mister Whiskers.
Fiona in this psychiatrist or his doctor, they all started
(23:22):
screaming and screaming and screaming in there, and he's like,
everybody shut up, and mister Whiskers not only was screaming,
he started like almost in a singing voice. I thought
that was hilarious because I was like, that would be
something I would do. It's like you told me to
shut up, I'll just change it up.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I kind of feel like his doctor would have already
reported back that he wasn't taking his meds like he
was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And and that was a question I had written down.
I I know that that doctor missed several signs, like
early early on, before anything went.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
She didn't miss them. She suspected what the answer was,
but just took his word for it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, he kind of admitted to it. She's like, so
you haven't been taking your meds. He's like, no, I've
missed some noses or I haven't not religiously or sometime
I forget the exact wording. But he admits to it.
And she's like, you really need to start doing that.
You're in a court order to do this. And he's
like okay. And then he does it again and she's like, well,
(24:31):
if you don't start, I'm going to turn you in.
And she's like he's like okay, And that's when he
takes the meds for the first time.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
No, he took the meds the first time because the
voice of Fiona told him.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
To, right, But that was right, that was right after
the meeting with the psychiatrist, So that's why the voice
was saying, you're a pansias or whatever it was, you
should be taking your meds and then he took his meds.
That's when the whole movie you got to see what
actually was occurring, Like the dog feces, the cat feces
(25:07):
all over the place, the blood all over the place,
the containers just sitting out from the meat where he
cut up the body. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It was so I mean, if it was cleaned up
and nice, would you have lived in that bowling alley?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah? If it wasn't like that, I would love to
live in a bullet aunt, like hell yeah, a free run, Yeah,
you know the ball alley. Did I get to go
downstairs and bowl? Hell yeah? And if it's a normal hey,
I'm paying one thousand dollars or fifteen hundred dollars a
month like a normal rent, and I get to run
the bowling alley. I would be renting out those lanes
(25:44):
making some money so I don't have to work.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Not even a bowling fan, like it's fine, but if
I if I had the access through that, Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Every day I grew up bowling. We when I was younger,
we were un bowling, a bowling league and everything else,
and my brothers on bowling lease. Usually I just haven't
done it recently because I even't had the money.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's eve when amen getting at a thiss gazing bowling
league going or bowling team?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
How would that?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Why are we gonna do a wei version?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Oh dude, I can just take some time off one
day and just like come down to Virginia and Mark
comes down.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well, you realize that bowling league is like from August
to like April, like a.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
One day call a joke, Captain obvious, you don't talk about.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Talk about bowling apparently like you joke about wrestling with me, Billy.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm sorry, I really really sorry. I mean I forgot
how much you like the men in tights.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It's all good, yeah, gets forgiven.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean you really got excited when they did the
d X symbols, so you're all good.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Dude. I used to get rid of right up in
school for doing that. Not well kill me. I had
a bunch of like conservative Christian UH teachers that didn't
think anything was funny.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
They used to hate when we'd say that's the bottom line, because.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
What dude, Okay, I'm gonna tell a funny story real quick.
I think our listeners find this funny. So I was like,
I think third fourth grade and yeah, I had this teacher.
I can say her name because she's a freaking B word.
Miss Dansmore, Cynthia Dinsmore for listen to this. Fuck you
and your son's an idiot too.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Just please don't give details like addresses or anything. Again, No,
this is went.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Way better than last week.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
She wanted us to do.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Like we were making cards for I prefer like for
Mother's Day or it was something working cards for And
she was like, yeah, you can put anything you on there,
but like your favorite like cartoon character, your favorite Bible
verse I put I literally wrote Austin three sixteen. Y'all
get the reference through quick Stone Cole Steve Austin.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I know, yeah, you do. You realize that's my That's
what the three sixteen was in my Gmail account.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Good And she goes, no, Brandon, it's John three sixteen.
I said, no, Miss Dansmore, it's Austin three sixteen knows
John said, I don't know what John is, but what's
Austin three sixteen stand for? I said, oh, it stands
for I just kicked your ass, my god when I
got home that day, right.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
The But the funny thing that even though you say
that Austin three sixteen was really John three sixteen. He
said that that's where he got the three sixteen from.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Oh I know, obviously, Yeah, so the promo he got it,
but he's putting up my own Jake the State, Robert.
He's like, Jake the State. You know you're reformed, You
got your thrown, you got your John three sixteens. Well,
Austin three six whooped.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Your Yeah, he always whipped somebody's whipped somebody's ass, and
then the rock was everybody's candy ass.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So yeah, and then the X started to suck it.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, just what I was raising on.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
So back to the movie we started, We started, He
brought up John three sixteen and everything, So I'm gonna
go with this route the fact that they used.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Did anybody catch what they tried to do with When
they were in the truck, he was talking to Fiona
and he was like, there were four angels and there
were I'm gonna name three of them, and you named
the fourth. Did did you catch that? Yeah? I mean
they named them, but did you catch the rationale behind that?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
What the fourth one is still technically being an angel
even though he was a fallen angel.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It was more of Ah. It seemed like he felt
his that he it is more towards like the fallen angel,
like Lucifer versus the other Angels.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think he might be reading into that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But I don't give it. Damn, I'm reading into it.
That's what I saw. But I mean the fact that, yeah,
the fact that before it's one was Lucifer. Most people
don't really think about that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well. I just thought maybe because like he, I mean,
he clearly has some shit going on. Maybe it was
a it maybe a reference to like, like, he seems
like a good, clean guy on on the outside, but
in the inside there's some dark shit going on. And
maybe that was I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's where I was get in the comparison. But Mark
said I read into it.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Okay, peach fuzz, what do you think it was?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think he was just talking about weird shit that
he knew, like odd pointless facts, useless information.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Peach fez was a deep horror reference. If you if
listeners know what that reference was, you rule anyway, Oh,
have no idea, y'all creep anyway, go.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Ahead, Yeah, I saw that once. It was okay, Okay,
I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's what one thing I
like about horror, And like the deep writing within harks
me horror so much more than scares and gashes and
cutting and all that crap, is that so much stuff
is open to interpretation. I'm so proud of myself for
getting that worry out out stuttering I had, I had.
(31:51):
I think it's the pepsi I got me through. Like
it's just like you can go all day with like, oh,
what's this mean? This mean? What's this meaning? It's just
like a really good conversation. And I don't know ifere
I'm going with where I was going with that, but
I view like the that this movie wasn't just written
(32:12):
down to be, oh, we're gonna have this guy that
might have schizrophrenia that says weird things and talks as animals. No,
Like there's actually stuff in there to make you, like
really think about things, because dude, like I know somebody
who has has schizophrenia. I have a hard time real quick.
(32:34):
I have a slight speech impediment, so some words I
say wrong. I try do my best, and it's it's
a process that they go through and it's really difficult
to see him go through it. And you know, the
person I know is still getting still going through treatment
and everything.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know, and.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's a it's something you knowing someonhe it goes through it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I mean this movie brought a lot of mental health issues.
I'll be honest. There's people in my family that are bipolar.
There's other and have other issues too, So I could
see different things in movies just based on seeing it
from perspective of how I've seen other people act friends
that have had issues family. So even if I do
(33:22):
read into some of the stuff, it's again it's interpretation
of each person and what you're coming through the movie with.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, and Christie and me and Martin know about bipolar.
We both have wives, right, Martin, Am I right?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I'm not getting into that one because she knows where
I sleep and I might wake up with a pillow
in my face.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I am friends with Kate. I am fine with Kate.
I am never going in that joke with you. I
am on the other side of the fits. I'm friends
with Kate. You two can sleep on the couches. I'm
staying over here.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
My bos's a sleep, my loss a sleep why nephews
interplaying a Fortnite.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So yeah, oh, you're right now, you didn't hear it.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, so unless Pumpkin on me.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
But building off what we were just talking about and
the serious side of this movie, the fact that Jerry
ral Ryan Reynolds's character talks about his childhood to Lisa
and he's going through and it shows the scene where
his mom has, I guess reached out to the cops
who reported herself, and it's like, yeah, I told him
(34:30):
I could talk to the angels which is her voices
and like stabs her neck but couldn't go through it,
and then she begs him to help me, help me
finish this. That has to be traumatizing alone if it
doesn't matter what age, but even more as a teenager kid.
It didn't really say what time frame that was for him.
(34:53):
That has to be traumatizing, and that that had to
play more of a factor of why he is the
way he is. Yeah, there's there's the famous yeah he.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I mean, they explain with that why he was under
court orders and everything to begin with. That was the
whole purpose of that scene, was showing what happened and
revealing why he was under court orders and seeing the
doctors and on the medications and everything.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, but but it helped explain his mentality too.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yes, did you notice when they went to leave the
house he laid the knife down.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, I caught that. Did you catch that? Branded Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah, called that while I was driving my route in
that movie.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, let's we did not condone watching movies while you're driving.
I just want to put that out there. Yeah, no,
don't do that anyway, Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
M Yeah. I don't think he would have done anything
to Anna Kendrick if she hadn't come and caught him
at the house with everything all jacked up.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I honestly pursuing a to date her and everything. Honestly,
if she didn't show.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Up, well, he was trying to push her away from
where he was living, so she didn't see it, and
he put down the knife because he wasn't gonna kill her.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, I mean the fact that it seemed like she
accepted him. I mean they went back to her place
after that, and then Lucky Lucky Dog. Yeah, but but yeah,
they went back to her place and then it seemed
like she had accepted him, and he kind of gave
off the I'm in love kind of stuff, like even
(36:51):
just walking out to his car. So I felt like
you like you're saying, if she never came over to
his place, I'm wondering how that relationship would have gone
because he may have hidden all that from her. Back
to Brandon saying about the U series, he would have
hidden all that from her just to try to make
(37:12):
his version of happiness.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
And then you get down to his basement, there's like
a big chamber that you keep like books in and
keep them fresh. Yeah, got it, pretty much shout out
my boy, Joe Goldbergen. He did nothing wrong anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
But I mean, but the scene where he's kidnapped the
doctor and he's first he goes in to her office everything,
and then he kidnaps her and takes her out to
the field and says, I don't want the quiet doctor,
blah blah blah, I want the doctor that is going
(37:52):
to help me. That that seemed like he was at
his breaking point. He was asking for help. Be it
be too late, but he was asking for help. And
the fact that he made the comment after she started explaining, well,
and this is this is the point I'm trying to
get to. Everybody has voices. She said that everybody has voices.
(38:13):
Each of our voices are different. So I'll be honest,
there are times in my head, not as much recently,
but there have been times to where I felt workless,
I didn't feel like I deserved stuff, or I didn't
feel like I was capable of doing right by my
kids or things like that. Those are all voices that
(38:34):
were in my head that I don't think Mark knew.
But Mark was there when they were going around in
my head, especially after everything that happened with my wife.
So I was like I was in I had in
my head.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Are you saying you had no Bosco?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I didn't have Bosco. I wasn't, but I didn't have
mister Whiskers either. I was. I was just in the
middle of dealing with you had Mark. I had a Mark,
but I was dealing with them.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
How well did that work out?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Well?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
It worked out pretty good. I'm on the show, aren't I.
I kind of like have to do the intro and
the intros now so when Josh isn't here, So I
guess it worked out pretty good. But uh, if you
have self doubt or any of those those are just
self they're not necessarily what other people see of you.
(39:30):
That's the point I'm trying to make. Don't always go
based on those voices. Always reach out for help. There's
always help out.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
There, absolutely, even when it feels like it's impossible to
get help, like you feel like, oh no, I'm a
fuck up. I can't be No, no, you can't be
trust me, you can absolutely be fixed. You can be helped.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
And I mean I feel this way. We all have
a group chat. I feel if I put a no
judgment sentenced before I say something, y'all go judge it
for a minute, but you're gonna realize that I'm telling you.
I don't want no jokes and nothing. I'm trying to
tell you something.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
My language is that like if I didn't love you
because I love you about you guys, you know we're
being romantic. I love about you guys.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Language No, I mean verbal hostility.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I'm used to all that. I I love all that stuff.
But I mean there are times to where even in
our chat, it's got Josh has done it. It's like, dude,
I need you serious a minute. He's done that to me.
So if there are times where you've got to be
you tell somebody, I need you serious, and we're we'll
off flip that switch. We'll go to the serious part
(40:44):
and help each other. And that's that's the best thing
in the world is to have friends or family or
a doctor or whatever somebody.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I mean, and and people suck if you can't find
someone that you can us listen sticking from experience of
someone that has a scene, get get involved in something
like if you love music, get into the music scene.
Like I'm big involved in my local hardcore and punk
rock scene. Dude, I've done these people for twenty years
(41:16):
and now they're all having kids and they're making band
their kids are making bands. Do like, man, let me
tell you. Or if you like music, you can get
into D and D man, I mean going to movies.
Get going to like a local theater and finding people
to get the movies, book club. You're in a knitting mean, dude,
There's so much out there that you get Like if
people in your life suck, like, there's people out there
(41:38):
that want to hang out with you and have your
interest and want to be your friend, Like and.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Hang out doesn't have to be in about the music scene.
Talking about the music scene. We're taking my stepdaughter to
her first metal show.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Sweet, here are y'all seeing a Static accent? That's awesome.
I just took my nephew to his first show scene bleeding.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
So she saw everybody on Patreon. You can see a shirt.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, she's seen. I think, uh pat Benatar, I think.
And she went to a country concert with her boyfriend
and me and her mom are taking her to Static accident.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah. See in Static. I mean, it sucks that it
doesn't have Wayne, but see and Static acts regardless, is
still looking a pretty incredible first metal show.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, they're They're so fun. And I've seen it. I
saw him just before the lockdown some crap and they
did a real good tribute to Wayne Static.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I've heard the dude this due vocals with him.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I was it's Ensil dope. Great, So it's Enseil dope.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
That's that's why now there it's both of them are
on the same tours.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
And that's pretty dope. Yeah, I'd love to be able
to go to that show. Oh you like music, Billy,
I know I do.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
No, I listened to you too all the time. I
don't need music anymore.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I think you said you listen to you too.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Like the band, They're coming to the NORFA on the
full tour. This is an off date forum somebody else
right now, but they are coming to.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Norfolk, gotcha. I have to look and see when that is.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Would highly recommend seeing it.
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Speaker 1 (44:30):
And you were saying about book clubs and all that.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Branded.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
What I was gonna say was you don't have to
be in person to find your your people. I mean
I was years ago. I used to play in three sixty.
I played PlayStation now, but on the Xbox I would
have people that I had never met in person that
we randomly found each other playing Call of Duty and
(44:54):
we would get hey, we're getting on tomorrow night at
a certain time. I mean I met people from over
receipts that would purposely get on at the time we
did for Eastern time, which is ours difference to play
the game with us and talk.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Oh yeah, I have a friend named Emily who I've
never met in person. I met her years ago, like dude,
like two thousand and three, four five, maybe years ago,
aol Aim messenger.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Back.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
We're playing a game called Avatar High that was on
the Ends website. It was old teen Nick, the original
teen Nick, like before teen Nick, and we met through
that and we've never met. She was in the Louisiana.
We just never met, but we still talk like all
the time, like and then that was in like two
thousand and four or five. So like, you know, like
(45:46):
some of those friendships do. Like one of my favorite
lyrics of my favorite email bands, Midwest pen Pals, it
goes so goes my life weekends at home, long distance
friendships because the close ones a blow. Yeah, sometimes that's
how that's how it be.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
But yeah, so Jerry with his voices, I didn't I
didn't realize until yeah, I'm going back to the movie.
I'm sorry Jerry with his voices. I didn't realize until
Lisa was at the door though, that he was doing
the voices externally, not just internally, because she's like, who
(46:27):
are all the people in there? And that's when I
caught that, even when nobody's around, he's doing the different
voices and the different characters to himself. So I just
thought that was crazy. Also about this, just the fact
of the level that they went to to show how
far out there he was.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Absolutely Lisa, poor poor girl. She was just trying to
find her friend.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
She's trying to find a man.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah, she was trying to find a man. Hey, listen,
that's what I've been I was gonna say this earlier.
I didn't get to Dartor Warren Man Dartor Warren. Hear
me out, that's what I'm gonna say. That's what I'm
going to say. No, you got to expand what you
don't know what hear me out means.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I know what hear me means.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Jackie Weaver's kind of hot.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I like older women. Okay, I mean my wife's five.
You're drunker than me. But you know, I tell my
life all the time. If it never happens to her,
I'm married like an older Roman with money. Give me
a sugar.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
My wife was five years older than me.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Oh, you're supposed to find a mom because they come
with snacks. Yes, yes, as we offend half our audience.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
We love all the moms out there that. Yeah, we apologize.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Mark doesn't get out much to apologize for him.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, his wife will get his wife will get him later,
trust us.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, send all complaints to Mark to uh Kate's email.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
We'll put it, but please.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Someone go through every every episode ever and find all
the crazy things Marcus said and.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Send it to make an episode by itself.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Sent Kate, and then.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
I don't say that much crazy.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
We'll have Kate one.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, I asked her to come on the show once
and she's.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Like, no, if we ever do like Saw or any
crazy like b right, like Sharp movies because she loves
these things.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
We did Saw one, we haven't done the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Sauce her favorite horror franchise, Like she's obsessed.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
He'd be jealous because we sold a Saw picture last
year and got to meet the guy from Saul's.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
He's pretty pissed.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Does she know who it was? Huh?
Speaker 3 (49:17):
No, it was Uh it was a dude that played
the cop.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
Yeah, cop crap, No be a year man.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Anyway, that was like one of my first cons, one
of them. That wasn't the.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
First, Oh, working with us.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Working with Uh yeah. When I went with Josh, he
made me get on stage and we talked about Saul. No,
he didn't make me. But at the same time, I volunteered.
I've never been a person to talk in front of people,
but I'm all about trying to get over fears.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
So yeah, there's a lot to be said for doing
things you're not comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Detective Hoffman.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, yeah, which one was Detective Hoffman?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Detective Hoffman?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
What's his real name?
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Is?
Speaker 1 (50:23):
What he's asking?
Speaker 3 (50:24):
A costas man? Mandy Lore.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Which one was he in?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
He was in Soul four. I think he was in
like four until because he was in the new one too.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well, you know, I don't know. I haven't seen ten.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
He's not in. I think he makes an appearance in three.
I think, yes, I've only seen all those movies. Three
one time.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I've seen him one time. I watched them for that cock.
I watched all of them in one week for that cop.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I watched them all when that new one was coming
out a couple of years ago, so I could say
it with my wife and I've never watched them. It
was a good first one. I actually liked them all,
like I liked the voices watching it.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
I mean, I'm gonna go back and watch them again.
But yeah, like I said, this was like one of
the guilty pleasure kind of movies for me because it's
the comedy is Ryan Reynolds, Anna Kendrick, and we all
joked that I've always had a man crushed from Ryan Reynolds.
So it's all good. But Anna Kendrick, she could come
(51:29):
and play the cup songs for me anytime.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Oh, next week we're doing Pitch Perfect.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Mark will not show up.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Mark, Oh No, Mark, Mark won't be here.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Mark won't be here, but Mark Mark gets to pick
the next movie a little bit.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Huh, are you a pitch perfect fan?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I don't know what you can tell me.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
You can tell me I love.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
It, so I liked It's perfect. Yes, i've seen them all.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yeah, they're all good.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Well I haven't seen any of them.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Have them all?
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Watch the first one at least?
Speaker 1 (52:02):
No? Yes?
Speaker 2 (52:04):
No, wow? Because it looks stupid and I have no
reason to either.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
The most movies that you love are stupid.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
So what's your point?
Speaker 3 (52:13):
I don't know how to say that Mark actually me
and were actually like agree with movies more than like
him and Josh Grand movies like me and were actually
like a lot of similar things. Yeah, when this minds
man for surprise, he might like my pick, But I
can't tell you a couple of weeks. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
I was shocked to he liked mine because it had
because it had singing as the ending credit.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh you mean the end of Evan gaily On.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
No, he's talking about the voice voice credits.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
No, okay, y'all obviously never seen Evan Gallon.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yes, it's been a while, you.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Know the ending I'm talking about. There's two endings.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, there was. I I think I've only seen the
one that's almost like a slide show.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Now, I highly doubt that director like got that from
evany On, but that's what their minded was, that congratulations
ending when they're all at the end like congratulations to
to Shinji. Anyway, that's that's what I got from that.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
But I know Mark hate's musicals, so that's why it
was kind of shocked a passion. Yes, he will not watch.
We're trying to get him. We were gonna do a
show of mean girls just to mess with them. The
New World dude, I like.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
So. I used to be a grumpy old man too.
I used to hate musicals, but I opened my mind
up to them when I met my wife. She wanted
me to watch one of her favorite movies because we
had a deal when we first started dating. My wife
was like, hey, I know you're a big movie buff.
Showed me one of your favorite movies. She was expecting,
you know, like a you know, like a like an
Oscar run here. No. I showed her pe b Herman's
(53:56):
Big Adventure. So in return, I had to watch Hairspray
with her.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
So what you're saying is your first date really well.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yes, his piece big adventure is a Chef's Kiss. But
we watched Hairspray, which is one of her favorites, and
I was like, no musical, suck, dude. That is a
great movie and it totally got me like, Okay, maybe
I need to go back and watch more musicals. And
I have and they're great. Hairspray. They all have an
air Spray listeners.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
I watched it one, I've seen it.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Do you do you like it?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
I didn't mind it?
Speaker 3 (54:32):
If you love John Travolta, he plays the woman plays
the mom.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Oh, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
Incredible.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Isn't the one that had like I saw?
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Is that the one that had like Ricky Lake in
it or something? Or am I thinking of something else?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I don't know I did it. I can't remember. Uh,
then you think of something else, I might be that
Michelle fire for and Christopher walk Home on where you
Need and Amanda Bonds she's in it too, was in it?
Speaker 1 (55:08):
That's that's out with something else in it?
Speaker 2 (55:12):
That?
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah? I liked it. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
James Morrison, Queen Latifa, what a what a cast?
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:19):
What a cast. Freaking Cyclops is in it.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
I mean, come on, hell is Cyclops from X Man.
Oh that actor?
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah? That actor.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
Okay, well, well have you seen the Sonic trilogy.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Nope, that's just because I haven't watched him.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
You should, dude.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I went and watched the new one in the theater.
I'm waiting for the next one.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
Oh, they're all the knuckles is good. They're all good.
And I know Josh isn't like Banter, but Josh loves
him too. He would be agreeing right now. He big
Sonic fan.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
It's a perfect example of internet bullying at its finest.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was m It's very I
wish the worst that would have worked for Fantastic four
first Steps and gotten patriopscal out of there.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Anyway, I wish it would just stop with Fantastic four.
But okay, this is like what the third one or
fourth one? They'd tried fourth.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
One they did too, and they did that really bad
one with Uncle be Jordan's and.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Where they were like playing shoe Storm was like, yeah,
I don't care about the comic book. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:43):
And then the new one. The best, the best thing
with the new one was my boy, Paul walk Houser,
shout out to that guy. Great actor. Anyway, I don't
see me interested in them.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
I'm fine. So do y'all have anything else you want
to talk about this movie? You think we hit everything?
Speaker 3 (57:07):
We got the We talk about the ending. So if
I was, don't bring that up. If he didn't get
brought up?
Speaker 2 (57:12):
What's the singing?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (57:15):
Well howe reminded me of Evan Gail. Oh my god,
what a catch? Sorry anyway, that.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Yeah, we had nothing. We all know what. That's a
reference to Josh. You can get them later. Was there
anything else?
Speaker 3 (57:30):
If you're wondering Miami's up or right now? Fourteen to
seven on her day?
Speaker 1 (57:33):
Anyway, he'll edit that out.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
I don't care. But, uh, you have you ever watched well,
I've never seen this movie. By'm asking the director of
this movie. I can't pronounce her name. Uh Mark? Is
it like Mark Mariin's Satra Pete. I don't know they
were watching her other movies because I looked her. I'm
(57:58):
looking at her. Uh on letter by, so I've actually
seen the poster for this movie. She did call Persephalis.
Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 2 (58:07):
It is just what the director of voice.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, uh s A t R A P. I. Apparently
it's a good movie. It's got like a four point
two letterbox and a lot of my friends have seen that,
all gave it four or five stars. Sitting Have you
ever seen anything from this woman? And Radioactive? I've heard
(58:31):
of that before too, that she did.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Let's see, y'all.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
I have not seen her other movies.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Know, this movie sounds interesting because it says it in
Nateen Seventy's Iran Margie, which is the director watches events
through her young eyes and her idealistic family of a
long dream being fulfilled, of hatred, of Shaw's defeat, and
the Iranian revolution of saving on and so it's.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Like she's also the writer of a lot of her movies.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Yeah, there's the animated movie of her like watching all
that stuff, and like that just sounds really cool to me.
I need to tick that down. That sounds really dope.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
I know Josh is looking forward to next week and
my pick, and we have a pretty cool guest for
next week too.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
Before we get to that, I like, I'm a nerd
with this stuff. So as one now we're not gonna
do Warshack. We're gonna gonna do out of five because
I'm a letter about Scott. What do you great?
Speaker 1 (59:33):
This movie?
Speaker 3 (59:33):
Really?
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Four out of five?
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Mark, I'd probably go four out of five.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Two so boom four star film watch this movie?
Speaker 1 (59:48):
So all right, Well, on that note, as we've hinted
at next week for surprise September pick is Marks, So Mark,
what movie you bring in with us? And who's your guest?
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
So everything's been confirmed. We are going to have Jonathan
from the channel Latinos against Spooky Shit. That's awesome and
after doing some hunting and thinking, we're going with the
French movie High Tension.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
That sounds like a fun episode. I don't guess I'm
being forced to be on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, Josh was pretty happy when I gave him my
pick for next week.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
So Josh like this, maybe we can't watch.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
It and will probably be one of the few times
we watched something that me and him both agreed on.
Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
I wanna I wanna see if I wanna beg it
beyond that episode, and I'm just going to sit there
at all the time and just make noises. Somebody won't
say anything.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
We'll see how that goes, see how that goes, so
all right, So, Brandon Working, everybody find you at my
house watching football as you're doing right now, Mark Working,
everybody finds you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I wasn't done the usual.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Well go ahead, Brandon, I thought you were done.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Astagram, Uh Brandon W. Miller two five Underscore two of
five and then Letterbox Brandon W. Miller And in my
house watching football. If you want to come watch football,
I may taco too, plenty left.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Mark. We know everybody finds you here, that we have
your rights and everything. Are you doing any miniatures or
anything right now?
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Not at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
No, you're not playing with the miniature, if you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
No, No, So all right, on that note, everybody can
find me at Letterbox at v A Boy ninety nine.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm your nonscript reading co host Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And I'm your handsome devil of a co host Brandon,
and I'm in a better mood this time around. Well
I know I'm not out. They have lost pretty bad yesterday,
but I'll get through it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And I'm putting up with both of these knuckleheads with
Josh Gone Billy and yeah exactly, And we are at
Milton's Fixture and Fawcett's this week on the movie I
picked for surprise September called The Voices.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, I was confused with your introduction there for a second. Well, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What'd y'all think of the movie?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Had you seen it before this?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Me?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, yes, okay, had you seen it before this?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I've never heard of it until he brought it up
the other day. But I'm glad that I did see
it because it was a very, very good movie. I
really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It came out as like an independent release anythink straight
to Blu Ray when it came out and I saw it.
I rented it from a red Box when it came
out and it was awesome then and it's still awesome now.
It's actually on the shelf in my movie collection.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Did you keep the copy from red Box? Or did
you buy that movie?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We had a used game and movie store called cool
Stuff in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Be oh, you got it down here?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh man, yep, that's where I got it from. But
they only saw like toys and used video games now and.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Shout out they used videos video and video game stores.
Shout out to those guys.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And this is one of those rarities where all of
us liked the movie because Josh said he liked this
movie too, So it was really a rarity that everybody
on the podcast actually liked this movie, a good one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
He's irrelevant, he's not here.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But uh tho, it does not count. No, for those
of people that haven't seen it, it is with Ryan
Reynolds and and A Kendrick, and it's about Ryan Reynolds
being a psychopath.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You forgot, Yeah, Jim Arden's hottest craps.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't forget. I knew one of you Tube would
bring it up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
He's changed borderline unreasonably hot.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I mean, Anna Kendrick's pretty freaking hot too, But I
mean I don't know, and this is this.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Is one of those movies that Ryan Reynolds did before
he got discovered as far as being able to sing
in Japan, right when he got you know what I'm
talking about where he went over there for the mass
singer kind of that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm not sure, but this was done when he was known,
but before he blew up, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Twenty fourteen. He did green Lander in before this, didn't
he He was.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Doing a mix of big releases and independent releases he
did like this one. He did one called Paperman, which
is kind of weird. He plays an imaginary friend that's
a superhero.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So I love this movie because it's kind of a
mix of the comparison I can say is like a
look who's talking with the animals talking and everything, but
it's still got the comedy seriess for like all our
mental health stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Essentially, Ryan Reynolds is playing someone who's schizophrenic and hear
his voices and sees things. Okay, it was. It talks
about the genetic aspects of some of these diseases because
he talks about his mother having the same issues. So
(04:17):
it's it's it's an interesting movie with the way that
they deal with schizophrenia on I'm assuming it's schizophrenia on
the almost comedic level.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I just thought he was being a Laza Thornberry. He
can talk to animals and no one else can. Did
y'all not get that reference?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I get the reference, Okaya the.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Same Wait a second, Mark didn't get it?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So no, no, I didn't you.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Ever seen The Wall of Thornberry. No, I never watched
that long story short. She got this like mystical power
to talk to animals and no one else can. Just her.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I mean you could have just gone with doctor Doolittle.
Everybody would have got that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, well that's not me. I don't like them too little.
I've only seen one two versions of that, and one
was the awful Downey Junior and the other one was
Eddie Murphy. They both suck.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
There's another one that's really old, from like the fifties
or something.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, you're probably there when it came out March anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
A good chance we had better taste and than their
old evil times or.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Whatever the fuck it is. Get off my line. Yes,
my podcast. So, but uh, I don't know about y'all,
but I like how they used the colors in the scenery,
how to differentiate when you were seeing from his eyes
(05:49):
off the meds and you know what he sees versus
when he's on the meds and everybody else, to distinguish
what was fantasy versus what was real. The fact that
they had the bright colors when it was fantasy, I
mean later on it because they had the butterflies in it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But yeah, ping though at first when they show his
living situation, it just looks like a normal place, right
until they show him on his meds and then you
start getting glimpses of what the place actually looks like.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It was a nice touch to who he ended up
being in the movie. But did they ever reference why
he was living in a bowling alley? Did I miss that?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I don't think they did.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, they never did, And that's a question I've always
had about this movie.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
That's a nice touch. If, like I Sayarah Killer would
live in something like that, you know, it's a nice touch.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
But yeah, I mean, that's why I was wondering why
nobody obviously went there to begin with whenever people started dying,
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's where I would go.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But they had his But they had his address because
they gave it to Anna Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean I'd be pissed off if a heart O
came to my door and brought me like dumb little cakes.
I don't want that. I won't like lasagna.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well well wait a minute, wait a minute. She was hot,
She's always hot, but she had her own things. She
was Stalkrish to me.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah. I thought that this is going to be like
a U season two dial and she was going to
find out he killed what's her face? Uh, Fiona? Yeah,
and then she was like, oh my god, finally someone
got rid of that bitch, and then like they do
it together. I really thought that was going to happen, But.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That would have been okay to make it a sequel
and all. But uh yeah, that that I was thrown
in there too where she was Stalkrish And it just
depends on I don't know if it was because we
were seeing still kind of through his eyes, or if
that was really her character throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, well, they can always do a prequel. The boy
is the boy east that voice, it's the voice.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I mean, they do so many prequels now, Yeah, it
would just be par for the course.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Y'all have already made it clear. You know, it's hot
and everything else, But how do you feel about her
attitude and the way she treated him whenever? You know,
he was trying to be nice to her, at least
try to be nice from his perspective, here's a bit
oh yeah, leaving a voice smel on his work phone
so he doesn't get it, so she doesn't go to
(08:32):
she shine.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, that that was dude, She's an idiot. That place
looked freaking sick, like they cook you like great Japanese
food they do. Like there's a freaking dude. Dude in
Kong Fu Like dude, like.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He was doing an Elvis impression before that was.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, like dude, Yeah, like, she's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But but don't remember, don't forget Bryan Reynolds. He knew Karate.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Oh yeah, when you're sitting there the bar with him,
I know Karaoate.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah that was good. But I mean you got to
remember in that scene too, it was early on, so
even that stuff. Was it just because we were seeing
it through his eyes and it was actually that legit
or was it actually run down and he perceived it
as being like cool, are you talking about the direction?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, the boss said that he saw them, he saw
him sitting in there when he won't by it, So I.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Mean, and he talked about how good it was too.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Okay, Okay, I missed up. You don't notice I just
missed that one thing. Uh? And are we all going
karaoke or what?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, we got to get marked to karaoke.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Mary, I want to know.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Josh can't answer because he's not here. So we're going
down the road. Billy, what is your karaoke song? Where
do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I've done Garth Brooks songs. I have done Sir mix
a lot, Baby got Back, I have done Waterfalls. I
probably could do other ones to probably do a jelly
roll song or something. They don't do that. I could
do a rock song too.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I mean, you can do anything but jelly roll. Please,
for love of God?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right, Mark Georgia line whatever, don't don't don't get
me started on that man. They ruined the country anyway? Mark,
what are you doing.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Having a drink in the crowd?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah? Singing a song?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You're not on stage.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If you were to do a song, well, what' it
be like? You just give us something dude, pequila, Okay,
fair enough, I'm different. I'm gonna do I'm gonna I'm
gonna get everybody in their fields because this song will
get everybody drunk and sas along. I'm doing Hunger Strap
by Temple of the Dog.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
People that I thought for sure you were gonna go
with Don't Stop Believing from Journey.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Ah, Noah, I'm a big fan of a Journey. To
be honest with you, I.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Feel like Journey was very underrated from the eighties. They
had some excellent songs.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You know it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
What's underrated? This moodey we were talking about, I.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Know it's kind of overlooked by a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Look at look at me getting the train back on
the rails.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh, you're taking your role as Josh like semi serious.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
As we got to see Pumpkin in the background.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, she's just chilling.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So what are your what's some scenes that y'all like
in this because I'm bringing out scenes that I mean, again,
I like the movie itself. So are there any scenes
in here you like? Actually really like like one of
your favorites.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I'll have the meal prepping them out just a little
like first off, like did he did he have those?
And you have to go to his store, and.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You didn't at the hardware store walking with.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The bag of hand tools in one hand and a
big thing wrapped of tupper wear, and okay.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I didn't see when the sheriff was that was a
lot though. There's no way all that fit in that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Bag and the and the sheriff together, And the sheriff
watched him walk to the truck and put it in
and asked what happened. He thought it was referencing that
because her body was still in the back of the truck.
He was referencing the front of the truck in the window.
And he's like, cardboard fender. That dude, that was crazy.
(12:49):
I'm not gonna lie I love the cardboard fender on
my go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Huh. I was gonna say I didn't because it's been
a while since I owned the movie, but it's been
a while since I watched it. I forgot about the
cardboard fender and cardboard repairs on his truck. And he's
just like driving down the street with no windshield after
heading the deer.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And he's like tells the sheriff, oh, I'll have it
fixed by the night, and he actually, if you pay
attention when it shows him going home, he's got the
windshield in his hand and he's actually sliding it back
in place and pretty go windshielded in front of his house.
Back on, winshields were easy to replace versus now where
(13:35):
they have to have all the extra stuff like for instance, mind,
I had to go to a shop because it's got
all the extra sensors and everything. You can't just replace it.
They got to adjust all the sensors and on the windshield.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
We had to replace one of the little little videos
side mirrors and my daughter's car or not mirrors windows,
and that thing was a small fortune because it has
the antenna that runs through the little window. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Safelight repair was not safely cheap.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I got a frame that works for them. So I
heard that too much.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I feel like that's one of those companies like Bank
of America, that the employees don't use their own services
because they're so bad.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
They don't pay well either.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah yeah, I didn't have to pay to get my
windshield replaced because I went through my insurance, so I
got lucky.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Who even needs windshields?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah yeah, just nice set of glasses.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, like yours glasses.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Glasses, no glasses. I'm not talking beer goggles.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Oh yeah, I don't have any of that. I have
I have Pepsi zero goggles. This is the same. Actually,
I was drinking last week. Not just kidding, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Look, so the whole thing that started in the movie
was when he was taking Fiona home. His his voices
is what told him to kill the deer the way
he did, and then he accidentally kills Fiona.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, so so so did he really because we know
at this point he's not on his medications.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Did he really accidentally kill her or because of the
lack of medications? Is that just how he's perceiving it, right?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And that's which is that like a different personality for
him that did the killing, because mister Whiskers could be
his alter ego personality kind of deal. Also, did you
notice that he had a voice for the deer. You
had a voice of the cat and dog. He didn't
have a voice for that fish in the restaurant. He
(16:07):
literally was talking to the fish and he was making
the voice out loud and everything, just say, because the
fish didn't react at all. So what made that different
than the everything else that had the voices.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The deer is what made me think of Elizah Thornberry
because it was just like talking to him. I'm like, oh, okay,
because at first I didn't get so that was like,
what twenty minutes into the movie, you're know what's going
on like that? So I'm just like, okay, he's talking
to his okay, way, either he's got some weird, weird
deal with some with some wizards, or he's got something
(16:41):
else going on.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well. See, you get to hear the voice that is
being used for the cat and dog early on, but
it doesn't show them in the first scene that you
hear the voices because he's like, I don't want to
talk to you right now and closes the door and
he's getting shirts. So you if you're not if you
hadn't seen the movie, you may think, oh, well, he's
got some roommates or something and he's talking to them
or some friends that are over or something, and uh,
(17:05):
later on it shows that those voices one is mister Whiskers,
the other one is what the dog's name is? Bosco? Right, yeah, yeah,
and and they're like the good and bad angels on
his shoulder kind of for his voices. That's the way
it seemed like Bosco was the good angel and mister
Whiskers was a bad angel. That dog's always better than cats.
(17:26):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, I'm gonna I mean, I'm more of a cat guy,
but I love it. I have two dogs. I love
them bye, and my favorites are cats.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I had to say, I know Josh has two cats.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That cares about Josh things. He said. He's blasting his
drawn there right now, he is. He hasn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Apparently they're the film.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
The camera went out, good good karma.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
As we're showing behind the camera now because nobody he
knows that that happened. And I don't know if he's
doing a review for Genre Blast.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So but wait what wait, what's wait Josh, He's a yeah, yeah,
but like it is such a perfect like because we okay,
so like we have me and my wife not be crazy.
(18:24):
I don't know, we have we have characters for our
cats and our dogs. Our dogs are very sweet and
it's still loving people. Our cats, especially Pickles. Pickles is
a male cat that has a Hitler mustache, no joke.
He is a he loves drugs. He loves rock and roll,
he loves women.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
He is just have to stay in the house so
he doesn't invade Poland.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yes, but we have a backstory that he used to
that he's a Vietnam Vet and now this is his
last life. He's part of the Akuza.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So no, I really don't have anything against cats. It's
just but I have to be careful because of allergies.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But that is the thing is cats, like like Pumpkin
back here or she is, like she looks sweet right now.
When she does something, she has this look in her
face like, oh yeah, that hurt, I'm gonna do it again.
Like that's how cats are. Like cats like that. This
is perfect because like cats are just so like I
don't care if this hurts you. I'm gonna do what
(19:27):
I want and I'm gonna love it. I'm gonna kill this,
I'm gonna kill that animal, and it's gonna be the
grest thing I ever did. Like that's just perfect. And
then Bosco was always like, also, cay Man, you're a
good boy, because I think what dogs is, which I
hate that people are mean to animals, but like you
can like yellow a dog and be aggressive to him.
(19:48):
They're gonna forget about it, and they're gonna love you
no matter what. I hate that there are people that
abuse that very much like like my dog duty. They
peed on my nephew's pillow and I gave him a
little thinking and he was upset. Two minutes later he
forgot about it.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It was all low.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
But my nephew's pillows also a Georgia bulldog pillows. I'm
glad he did it anyway.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Well, I mean we're talking about the cat and dog
being the good and bad angel. Later on in the
movie The Dog Rot, he gets out and when they
go and discover who Jerry Ryan Reynolds character is, and
they call the police, and when he's out, it comes
down to he's hearing the voice of mister Whiskers. Alison,
(20:38):
Lisa and Fiona and the girls are all saying, well,
we give up. Maybe the cat's got the best idea.
Just listen to the cat the whole movie. The cat
has had the worst ideas to begin with, so they just.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Or the best, huh, the worst or the best?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
He's like, we fill up a couple of fridges with
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
If we're talking about murder, what do you think is
that the best idea? Red Rob got it murder?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
What's the case that they.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But No. One of my favorite scenes though in this
movie is when mister mister Whiskers almost said mister Pickles
because of Brandon, but no, you're good. You're good, mister Whiskers.
Fiona in this psychiatrist or his doctor, they all started
(23:22):
screaming and screaming and screaming in there, and he's like,
everybody shut up, and mister Whiskers not only was screaming,
he started like almost in a singing voice. I thought
that was hilarious because I was like, that would be
something I would do. It's like you told me to
shut up, I'll just change it up.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I kind of feel like his doctor would have already
reported back that he wasn't taking his meds like he
was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And and that was a question I had written down.
I I know that that doctor missed several signs, like
early early on, before anything went.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
She didn't miss them. She suspected what the answer was,
but just took his word for it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, he kind of admitted to it. She's like, so
you haven't been taking your meds. He's like, no, I've
missed some noses or I haven't not religiously or sometime
I forget the exact wording. But he admits to it.
And she's like, you really need to start doing that.
You're in a court order to do this. And he's
like okay. And then he does it again and she's like, well,
(24:31):
if you don't start, I'm going to turn you in.
And she's like he's like okay, And that's when he
takes the meds for the first time.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
No, he took the meds the first time because the
voice of Fiona told him.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
To, right, But that was right, that was right after
the meeting with the psychiatrist, So that's why the voice
was saying, you're a pansias or whatever it was, you
should be taking your meds and then he took his meds.
That's when the whole movie you got to see what
actually was occurring, Like the dog feces, the cat feces
(25:07):
all over the place, the blood all over the place,
the containers just sitting out from the meat where he
cut up the body. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It was so I mean, if it was cleaned up
and nice, would you have lived in that bowling alley?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah? If it wasn't like that, I would love to
live in a bullet aunt, like hell yeah, a free run, Yeah,
you know the ball alley. Did I get to go
downstairs and bowl? Hell yeah? And if it's a normal hey,
I'm paying one thousand dollars or fifteen hundred dollars a
month like a normal rent, and I get to run
the bowling alley. I would be renting out those lanes
(25:44):
making some money so I don't have to work.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Not even a bowling fan, like it's fine, but if
I if I had the access through that, Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Every day I grew up bowling. We when I was younger,
we were un bowling, a bowling league and everything else,
and my brothers on bowling lease. Usually I just haven't
done it recently because I even't had the money.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's eve when amen getting at a thiss gazing bowling
league going or bowling team?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
How would that?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Why are we gonna do a wei version?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Oh dude, I can just take some time off one
day and just like come down to Virginia and Mark
comes down.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well, you realize that bowling league is like from August
to like April, like a.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
One day call a joke, Captain obvious, you don't talk about.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Talk about bowling apparently like you joke about wrestling with me, Billy.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm sorry, I really really sorry. I mean I forgot
how much you like the men in tights.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It's all good, yeah, gets forgiven.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean you really got excited when they did the
d X symbols, so you're all good.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Dude. I used to get rid of right up in
school for doing that. Not well kill me. I had
a bunch of like conservative Christian UH teachers that didn't
think anything was funny.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
They used to hate when we'd say that's the bottom line, because.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
What dude, Okay, I'm gonna tell a funny story real quick.
I think our listeners find this funny. So I was like,
I think third fourth grade and yeah, I had this teacher.
I can say her name because she's a freaking B word.
Miss Dansmore, Cynthia Dinsmore for listen to this. Fuck you
and your son's an idiot too.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Just please don't give details like addresses or anything. Again, No,
this is went.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Way better than last week.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
She wanted us to do.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Like we were making cards for I prefer like for
Mother's Day or it was something working cards for And
she was like, yeah, you can put anything you on there,
but like your favorite like cartoon character, your favorite Bible
verse I put I literally wrote Austin three sixteen. Y'all
get the reference through quick Stone Cole Steve Austin.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I know, yeah, you do. You realize that's my That's
what the three sixteen was in my Gmail account.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Good And she goes, no, Brandon, it's John three sixteen.
I said, no, Miss Dansmore, it's Austin three sixteen knows
John said, I don't know what John is, but what's
Austin three sixteen stand for? I said, oh, it stands
for I just kicked your ass, my god when I
got home that day, right.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
The But the funny thing that even though you say
that Austin three sixteen was really John three sixteen. He
said that that's where he got the three sixteen from.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Oh I know, obviously, Yeah, so the promo he got it,
but he's putting up my own Jake the State, Robert.
He's like, Jake the State. You know you're reformed, You
got your thrown, you got your John three sixteens. Well,
Austin three six whooped.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Your Yeah, he always whipped somebody's whipped somebody's ass, and
then the rock was everybody's candy ass.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So yeah, and then the X started to suck it.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, just what I was raising on.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
So back to the movie we started, We started, He
brought up John three sixteen and everything, So I'm gonna
go with this route the fact that they used.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Did anybody catch what they tried to do with When
they were in the truck, he was talking to Fiona
and he was like, there were four angels and there
were I'm gonna name three of them, and you named
the fourth. Did did you catch that? Yeah? I mean
they named them, but did you catch the rationale behind that?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
What the fourth one is still technically being an angel
even though he was a fallen angel.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It was more of Ah. It seemed like he felt
his that he it is more towards like the fallen angel,
like Lucifer versus the other Angels.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think he might be reading into that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But I don't give it. Damn, I'm reading into it.
That's what I saw. But I mean the fact that, yeah,
the fact that before it's one was Lucifer. Most people
don't really think about that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well. I just thought maybe because like he, I mean,
he clearly has some shit going on. Maybe it was
a it maybe a reference to like, like, he seems
like a good, clean guy on on the outside, but
in the inside there's some dark shit going on. And
maybe that was I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's where I was get in the comparison. But Mark
said I read into it.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Okay, peach fuzz, what do you think it was?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think he was just talking about weird shit that
he knew, like odd pointless facts, useless information.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Peach fez was a deep horror reference. If you if
listeners know what that reference was, you rule anyway, Oh,
have no idea, y'all creep anyway, go.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Ahead, Yeah, I saw that once. It was okay, Okay,
I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's what one thing I
like about horror, And like the deep writing within harks
me horror so much more than scares and gashes and
cutting and all that crap, is that so much stuff
is open to interpretation. I'm so proud of myself for
getting that worry out out stuttering I had, I had.
(31:51):
I think it's the pepsi I got me through. Like
it's just like you can go all day with like, oh,
what's this mean? This mean? What's this meaning? It's just
like a really good conversation. And I don't know ifere
I'm going with where I was going with that, but
I view like the that this movie wasn't just written
(32:12):
down to be, oh, we're gonna have this guy that
might have schizrophrenia that says weird things and talks as animals. No,
Like there's actually stuff in there to make you, like
really think about things, because dude, like I know somebody
who has has schizophrenia. I have a hard time real quick.
(32:34):
I have a slight speech impediment, so some words I
say wrong. I try do my best, and it's it's
a process that they go through and it's really difficult
to see him go through it. And you know, the
person I know is still getting still going through treatment
and everything.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know, and.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's a it's something you knowing someonhe it goes through it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I mean this movie brought a lot of mental health issues.
I'll be honest. There's people in my family that are bipolar.
There's other and have other issues too, So I could
see different things in movies just based on seeing it
from perspective of how I've seen other people act friends
that have had issues family. So even if I do
(33:22):
read into some of the stuff, it's again it's interpretation
of each person and what you're coming through the movie with.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, and Christie and me and Martin know about bipolar.
We both have wives, right, Martin, Am I right?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I'm not getting into that one because she knows where
I sleep and I might wake up with a pillow
in my face.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I am friends with Kate. I am fine with Kate.
I am never going in that joke with you. I
am on the other side of the fits. I'm friends
with Kate. You two can sleep on the couches. I'm
staying over here.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
My bos's a sleep, my loss a sleep why nephews
interplaying a Fortnite.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So yeah, oh, you're right now, you didn't hear it.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, so unless Pumpkin on me.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
But building off what we were just talking about and
the serious side of this movie, the fact that Jerry
ral Ryan Reynolds's character talks about his childhood to Lisa
and he's going through and it shows the scene where
his mom has, I guess reached out to the cops
who reported herself, and it's like, yeah, I told him
(34:30):
I could talk to the angels which is her voices
and like stabs her neck but couldn't go through it,
and then she begs him to help me, help me
finish this. That has to be traumatizing alone if it
doesn't matter what age, but even more as a teenager kid.
It didn't really say what time frame that was for him.
(34:53):
That has to be traumatizing, and that that had to
play more of a factor of why he is the
way he is. Yeah, there's there's the famous yeah he.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I mean, they explain with that why he was under
court orders and everything to begin with. That was the
whole purpose of that scene, was showing what happened and
revealing why he was under court orders and seeing the
doctors and on the medications and everything.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, but but it helped explain his mentality too.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yes, did you notice when they went to leave the
house he laid the knife down.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, I caught that. Did you catch that? Branded Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah, called that while I was driving my route in
that movie.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, let's we did not condone watching movies while you're driving.
I just want to put that out there. Yeah, no,
don't do that anyway, Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
M Yeah. I don't think he would have done anything
to Anna Kendrick if she hadn't come and caught him
at the house with everything all jacked up.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I honestly pursuing a to date her and everything. Honestly,
if she didn't show.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Up, well, he was trying to push her away from
where he was living, so she didn't see it, and
he put down the knife because he wasn't gonna kill her.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, I mean the fact that it seemed like she
accepted him. I mean they went back to her place
after that, and then Lucky Lucky Dog. Yeah, but but yeah,
they went back to her place and then it seemed
like she had accepted him, and he kind of gave
off the I'm in love kind of stuff, like even
(36:51):
just walking out to his car. So I felt like
you like you're saying, if she never came over to
his place, I'm wondering how that relationship would have gone
because he may have hidden all that from her. Back
to Brandon saying about the U series, he would have
hidden all that from her just to try to make
(37:12):
his version of happiness.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
And then you get down to his basement, there's like
a big chamber that you keep like books in and
keep them fresh. Yeah, got it, pretty much shout out
my boy, Joe Goldbergen. He did nothing wrong anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
But I mean, but the scene where he's kidnapped the
doctor and he's first he goes in to her office everything,
and then he kidnaps her and takes her out to
the field and says, I don't want the quiet doctor,
blah blah blah, I want the doctor that is going
(37:52):
to help me. That that seemed like he was at
his breaking point. He was asking for help. Be it
be too late, but he was asking for help. And
the fact that he made the comment after she started explaining, well,
and this is this is the point I'm trying to
get to. Everybody has voices. She said that everybody has voices.
(38:13):
Each of our voices are different. So I'll be honest,
there are times in my head, not as much recently,
but there have been times to where I felt workless,
I didn't feel like I deserved stuff, or I didn't
feel like I was capable of doing right by my
kids or things like that. Those are all voices that
(38:34):
were in my head that I don't think Mark knew.
But Mark was there when they were going around in
my head, especially after everything that happened with my wife.
So I was like I was in I had in
my head.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Are you saying you had no Bosco?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I didn't have Bosco. I wasn't, but I didn't have
mister Whiskers either. I was. I was just in the
middle of dealing with you had Mark. I had a Mark,
but I was dealing with them.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
How well did that work out?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Well?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
It worked out pretty good. I'm on the show, aren't I.
I kind of like have to do the intro and
the intros now so when Josh isn't here, So I
guess it worked out pretty good. But uh, if you
have self doubt or any of those those are just
self they're not necessarily what other people see of you.
(39:30):
That's the point I'm trying to make. Don't always go
based on those voices. Always reach out for help. There's
always help out.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
There, absolutely, even when it feels like it's impossible to
get help, like you feel like, oh no, I'm a
fuck up. I can't be No, no, you can't be
trust me, you can absolutely be fixed. You can be helped.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
And I mean I feel this way. We all have
a group chat. I feel if I put a no
judgment sentenced before I say something, y'all go judge it
for a minute, but you're gonna realize that I'm telling you.
I don't want no jokes and nothing. I'm trying to
tell you something.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
My language is that like if I didn't love you
because I love you about you guys, you know we're
being romantic. I love about you guys.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Language No, I mean verbal hostility.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I'm used to all that. I I love all that stuff.
But I mean there are times to where even in
our chat, it's got Josh has done it. It's like, dude,
I need you serious a minute. He's done that to me.
So if there are times where you've got to be
you tell somebody, I need you serious, and we're we'll
off flip that switch. We'll go to the serious part
(40:44):
and help each other. And that's that's the best thing
in the world is to have friends or family or
a doctor or whatever somebody.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I mean, and and people suck if you can't find
someone that you can us listen sticking from experience of
someone that has a scene, get get involved in something
like if you love music, get into the music scene.
Like I'm big involved in my local hardcore and punk
rock scene. Dude, I've done these people for twenty years
(41:16):
and now they're all having kids and they're making band
their kids are making bands. Do like, man, let me
tell you. Or if you like music, you can get
into D and D man, I mean going to movies.
Get going to like a local theater and finding people
to get the movies, book club. You're in a knitting mean, dude,
There's so much out there that you get Like if
people in your life suck, like, there's people out there
(41:38):
that want to hang out with you and have your
interest and want to be your friend, Like and.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Hang out doesn't have to be in about the music scene.
Talking about the music scene. We're taking my stepdaughter to
her first metal show.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Sweet, here are y'all seeing a Static accent? That's awesome.
I just took my nephew to his first show scene bleeding.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
So she saw everybody on Patreon. You can see a shirt.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, she's seen. I think, uh pat Benatar, I think.
And she went to a country concert with her boyfriend
and me and her mom are taking her to Static accident.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah. See in Static. I mean, it sucks that it
doesn't have Wayne, but see and Static acts regardless, is
still looking a pretty incredible first metal show.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, they're They're so fun. And I've seen it. I
saw him just before the lockdown some crap and they
did a real good tribute to Wayne Static.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I've heard the dude this due vocals with him.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I was it's Ensil dope. Great, So it's Enseil dope.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
That's that's why now there it's both of them are
on the same tours.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
And that's pretty dope. Yeah, I'd love to be able
to go to that show. Oh you like music, Billy,
I know I do.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
No, I listened to you too all the time. I
don't need music anymore.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I think you said you listen to you too.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Like the band, They're coming to the NORFA on the
full tour. This is an off date forum somebody else
right now, but they are coming to.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Norfolk, gotcha. I have to look and see when that is.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Would highly recommend seeing it.
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Speaker 1 (44:30):
And you were saying about book clubs and all that.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Branded.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
What I was gonna say was you don't have to
be in person to find your your people. I mean
I was years ago. I used to play in three sixty.
I played PlayStation now, but on the Xbox I would
have people that I had never met in person that
we randomly found each other playing Call of Duty and
(44:54):
we would get hey, we're getting on tomorrow night at
a certain time. I mean I met people from over
receipts that would purposely get on at the time we
did for Eastern time, which is ours difference to play
the game with us and talk.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Oh yeah, I have a friend named Emily who I've
never met in person. I met her years ago, like dude,
like two thousand and three, four five, maybe years ago,
aol Aim messenger.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Back.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
We're playing a game called Avatar High that was on
the Ends website. It was old teen Nick, the original
teen Nick, like before teen Nick, and we met through
that and we've never met. She was in the Louisiana.
We just never met, but we still talk like all
the time, like and then that was in like two
thousand and four or five. So like, you know, like
(45:46):
some of those friendships do. Like one of my favorite
lyrics of my favorite email bands, Midwest pen Pals, it
goes so goes my life weekends at home, long distance
friendships because the close ones a blow. Yeah, sometimes that's
how that's how it be.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
But yeah, so Jerry with his voices, I didn't I
didn't realize until yeah, I'm going back to the movie.
I'm sorry Jerry with his voices. I didn't realize until
Lisa was at the door though, that he was doing
the voices externally, not just internally, because she's like, who
(46:27):
are all the people in there? And that's when I
caught that, even when nobody's around, he's doing the different
voices and the different characters to himself. So I just
thought that was crazy. Also about this, just the fact
of the level that they went to to show how
far out there he was.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Absolutely Lisa, poor poor girl. She was just trying to
find her friend.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
She's trying to find a man.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah, she was trying to find a man. Hey, listen,
that's what I've been I was gonna say this earlier.
I didn't get to Dartor Warren Man Dartor Warren. Hear
me out, that's what I'm gonna say. That's what I'm
going to say. No, you got to expand what you
don't know what hear me out means.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I know what hear me means.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Jackie Weaver's kind of hot.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I like older women. Okay, I mean my wife's five.
You're drunker than me. But you know, I tell my
life all the time. If it never happens to her,
I'm married like an older Roman with money. Give me
a sugar.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
My wife was five years older than me.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Oh, you're supposed to find a mom because they come
with snacks. Yes, yes, as we offend half our audience.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
We love all the moms out there that. Yeah, we apologize.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Mark doesn't get out much to apologize for him.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, his wife will get his wife will get him later,
trust us.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, send all complaints to Mark to uh Kate's email.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
We'll put it, but please.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Someone go through every every episode ever and find all
the crazy things Marcus said and.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Send it to make an episode by itself.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Sent Kate, and then.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
I don't say that much crazy.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
We'll have Kate one.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, I asked her to come on the show once
and she's.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Like, no, if we ever do like Saw or any
crazy like b right, like Sharp movies because she loves
these things.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
We did Saw one, we haven't done the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Sauce her favorite horror franchise, Like she's obsessed.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
He'd be jealous because we sold a Saw picture last
year and got to meet the guy from Saul's.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
He's pretty pissed.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Does she know who it was? Huh?
Speaker 3 (49:17):
No, it was Uh it was a dude that played
the cop.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
Yeah, cop crap, No be a year man.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Anyway, that was like one of my first cons, one
of them. That wasn't the.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
First, Oh, working with us.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Working with Uh yeah. When I went with Josh, he
made me get on stage and we talked about Saul. No,
he didn't make me. But at the same time, I volunteered.
I've never been a person to talk in front of people,
but I'm all about trying to get over fears.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
So yeah, there's a lot to be said for doing
things you're not comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Detective Hoffman.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, yeah, which one was Detective Hoffman?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Detective Hoffman?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
What's his real name?
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Is?
Speaker 1 (50:23):
What he's asking?
Speaker 3 (50:24):
A costas man? Mandy Lore.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Which one was he in?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
He was in Soul four. I think he was in
like four until because he was in the new one too.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well, you know, I don't know. I haven't seen ten.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
He's not in. I think he makes an appearance in three.
I think, yes, I've only seen all those movies. Three
one time.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
I've seen him one time. I watched them for that cock.
I watched all of them in one week for that cop.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I watched them all when that new one was coming
out a couple of years ago, so I could say
it with my wife and I've never watched them. It
was a good first one. I actually liked them all,
like I liked the voices watching it.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
I mean, I'm gonna go back and watch them again.
But yeah, like I said, this was like one of
the guilty pleasure kind of movies for me because it's
the comedy is Ryan Reynolds, Anna Kendrick, and we all
joked that I've always had a man crushed from Ryan Reynolds.
So it's all good. But Anna Kendrick, she could come
(51:29):
and play the cup songs for me anytime.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Oh, next week we're doing Pitch Perfect.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Mark will not show up.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Mark, Oh No, Mark, Mark won't be here.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Mark won't be here, but Mark Mark gets to pick
the next movie a little bit.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Huh, are you a pitch perfect fan?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I don't know what you can tell me.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
You can tell me I love.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
It, so I liked It's perfect. Yes, i've seen them all.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yeah, they're all good.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Well I haven't seen any of them.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Have them all?
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Watch the first one at least?
Speaker 1 (52:02):
No? Yes?
Speaker 2 (52:04):
No, wow? Because it looks stupid and I have no
reason to either.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
The most movies that you love are stupid.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
So what's your point?
Speaker 3 (52:13):
I don't know how to say that Mark actually me
and were actually like agree with movies more than like
him and Josh Grand movies like me and were actually
like a lot of similar things. Yeah, when this minds
man for surprise, he might like my pick, But I
can't tell you a couple of weeks. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
I was shocked to he liked mine because it had
because it had singing as the ending credit.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh you mean the end of Evan gaily On.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
No, he's talking about the voice voice credits.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
No, okay, y'all obviously never seen Evan Gallon.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yes, it's been a while, you.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Know the ending I'm talking about. There's two endings.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, there was. I I think I've only seen the
one that's almost like a slide show.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Now, I highly doubt that director like got that from
evany On, but that's what their minded was, that congratulations
ending when they're all at the end like congratulations to
to Shinji. Anyway, that's that's what I got from that.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
But I know Mark hate's musicals, so that's why it
was kind of shocked a passion. Yes, he will not watch.
We're trying to get him. We were gonna do a
show of mean girls just to mess with them. The
New World dude, I like.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
So. I used to be a grumpy old man too.
I used to hate musicals, but I opened my mind
up to them when I met my wife. She wanted
me to watch one of her favorite movies because we
had a deal when we first started dating. My wife
was like, hey, I know you're a big movie buff.
Showed me one of your favorite movies. She was expecting,
you know, like a you know, like a like an
Oscar run here. No. I showed her pe b Herman's
(53:56):
Big Adventure. So in return, I had to watch Hairspray
with her.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
So what you're saying is your first date really well.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yes, his piece big adventure is a Chef's Kiss. But
we watched Hairspray, which is one of her favorites, and
I was like, no musical, suck, dude. That is a
great movie and it totally got me like, Okay, maybe
I need to go back and watch more musicals. And
I have and they're great. Hairspray. They all have an
air Spray listeners.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
I watched it one, I've seen it.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Do you do you like it?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
I didn't mind it?
Speaker 3 (54:32):
If you love John Travolta, he plays the woman plays
the mom.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Oh, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
Incredible.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Isn't the one that had like I saw?
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Is that the one that had like Ricky Lake in
it or something? Or am I thinking of something else?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I don't know I did it. I can't remember. Uh,
then you think of something else, I might be that
Michelle fire for and Christopher walk Home on where you
Need and Amanda Bonds she's in it too, was in it?
Speaker 1 (55:08):
That's that's out with something else in it?
Speaker 2 (55:12):
That?
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah? I liked it. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
James Morrison, Queen Latifa, what a what a cast?
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:19):
What a cast. Freaking Cyclops is in it.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
I mean, come on, hell is Cyclops from X Man.
Oh that actor?
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah? That actor.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
Okay, well, well have you seen the Sonic trilogy.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Nope, that's just because I haven't watched him.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
You should, dude.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I went and watched the new one in the theater.
I'm waiting for the next one.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
Oh, they're all the knuckles is good. They're all good.
And I know Josh isn't like Banter, but Josh loves
him too. He would be agreeing right now. He big
Sonic fan.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
It's a perfect example of internet bullying at its finest.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was m It's very I
wish the worst that would have worked for Fantastic four
first Steps and gotten patriopscal out of there.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Anyway, I wish it would just stop with Fantastic four.
But okay, this is like what the third one or
fourth one? They'd tried fourth.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
One they did too, and they did that really bad
one with Uncle be Jordan's and.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Where they were like playing shoe Storm was like, yeah,
I don't care about the comic book. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:43):
And then the new one. The best, the best thing
with the new one was my boy, Paul walk Houser,
shout out to that guy. Great actor. Anyway, I don't
see me interested in them.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
I'm fine. So do y'all have anything else you want
to talk about this movie? You think we hit everything?
Speaker 3 (57:07):
We got the We talk about the ending. So if
I was, don't bring that up. If he didn't get
brought up?
Speaker 2 (57:12):
What's the singing?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (57:15):
Well howe reminded me of Evan Gail. Oh my god,
what a catch? Sorry anyway, that.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Yeah, we had nothing. We all know what. That's a
reference to Josh. You can get them later. Was there
anything else?
Speaker 3 (57:30):
If you're wondering Miami's up or right now? Fourteen to
seven on her day?
Speaker 1 (57:33):
Anyway, he'll edit that out.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
I don't care. But, uh, you have you ever watched well,
I've never seen this movie. By'm asking the director of
this movie. I can't pronounce her name. Uh Mark? Is
it like Mark Mariin's Satra Pete. I don't know they
were watching her other movies because I looked her. I'm
(57:58):
looking at her. Uh on letter by, so I've actually
seen the poster for this movie. She did call Persephalis.
Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 2 (58:07):
It is just what the director of voice.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, uh s A t R A P. I. Apparently
it's a good movie. It's got like a four point
two letterbox and a lot of my friends have seen that,
all gave it four or five stars. Sitting Have you
ever seen anything from this woman? And Radioactive? I've heard
(58:31):
of that before too, that she did.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Let's see, y'all.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
I have not seen her other movies.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Know, this movie sounds interesting because it says it in
Nateen Seventy's Iran Margie, which is the director watches events
through her young eyes and her idealistic family of a
long dream being fulfilled, of hatred, of Shaw's defeat, and
the Iranian revolution of saving on and so it's.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Like she's also the writer of a lot of her movies.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Yeah, there's the animated movie of her like watching all
that stuff, and like that just sounds really cool to me.
I need to tick that down. That sounds really dope.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
I know Josh is looking forward to next week and
my pick, and we have a pretty cool guest for
next week too.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
Before we get to that, I like, I'm a nerd
with this stuff. So as one now we're not gonna
do Warshack. We're gonna gonna do out of five because
I'm a letter about Scott. What do you great?
Speaker 1 (59:33):
This movie?
Speaker 3 (59:33):
Really?
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Four out of five?
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Mark, I'd probably go four out of five.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Two so boom four star film watch this movie?
Speaker 1 (59:48):
So all right, Well, on that note, as we've hinted
at next week for surprise September pick is Marks, So Mark,
what movie you bring in with us? And who's your guest?
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
So everything's been confirmed. We are going to have Jonathan
from the channel Latinos against Spooky Shit. That's awesome and
after doing some hunting and thinking, we're going with the
French movie High Tension.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
That sounds like a fun episode. I don't guess I'm
being forced to be on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, Josh was pretty happy when I gave him my
pick for next week.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
So Josh like this, maybe we can't watch.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
It and will probably be one of the few times
we watched something that me and him both agreed on.
Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
I wanna I wanna see if I wanna beg it
beyond that episode, and I'm just going to sit there
at all the time and just make noises. Somebody won't
say anything.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
We'll see how that goes, see how that goes, so
all right, So, Brandon Working, everybody find you at my
house watching football as you're doing right now, Mark Working,
everybody finds you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I wasn't done the usual.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Well go ahead, Brandon, I thought you were done.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Astagram, Uh Brandon W. Miller two five Underscore two of
five and then Letterbox Brandon W. Miller And in my
house watching football. If you want to come watch football,
I may taco too, plenty left.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Mark. We know everybody finds you here, that we have
your rights and everything. Are you doing any miniatures or
anything right now?
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Not at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
No, you're not playing with the miniature, if you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
No, No, So all right, on that note, everybody can
find me at Letterbox at v A Boy ninety nine.
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