August 29, 2025 • 33 mins
We’re staring into the abyss of 1997’s Twilight of the Dark Master to see what will gaze back. Josh is out on the road again & Brandon has brought us our finale to Anime August with Twilight of the Dark Master. In this episode, the gents discuss everything from the film’s animation style to addiction and mental health and more.
If you or someone you know is reading this right now and struggling with suicide, depression, addiction, or self-harm - please reach out—comment, message, or tweet’ at us. Go to victimsandvillains.net/hope for more resources. Call the suicide lifeline at 988. Text "HELP" to 741-741. There is hope & you DO have so much value and worth!
Abyss Gazing: A Horror Podcast is a production of Victims and Villains is written by Brandon Moore, Mark Moore & Billy Tabor. Music for this episode comes courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (https://bit.ly/agktheme) & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms). You can now support us on Patreon. Help us get mental health resources into schools and get exclusive content at the same time. Click here (http://bit.ly/vavpatreon) to support us today!
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Abyss Gazing: A Horror Podcast is a production of Victims and Villains is written by Brandon Moore, Mark Moore & Billy Tabor. Music for this episode comes courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (https://bit.ly/agktheme) & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms). You can now support us on Patreon. Help us get mental health resources into schools and get exclusive content at the same time. Click here (http://bit.ly/vavpatreon) to support us today!
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, you are listening to abys Gazing horror podcast where
we celebrate all things spooky and mental health.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm still your co host Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm your other co host Brandon or something, and this.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Is Billy. And as you could tell, we are Josh
less again this.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Week, So we'll be josh lyss this week and next
week it's going to be the three of us covering
next week. Also, Brandon, this was your pick. This is
the last animate August pick.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
What was your pick? And tell us about it?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Wow, I forget the name of it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'll tell you got me because I mistyped it Twilight of.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I just I I had a I've had a long week,
and I took a nap a minute ago and I
just woke up.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And then a lot was going on.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I got you, Yeah, till out of the Dark Master,
which is something I never heard of until recently.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Excuse me.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
It was the work one day and I was watching
one of these things on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was like a dude post like.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
An anime block from like old anime from the nineties,
and I put those things on all the time at
work of different like cartoons, and that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Played and I was like, what is this.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I've never seen this before. What the fuck was that?
And I thought it was cool. So when an opportunity
was given, I was like, Hey, that's horror, so we'll
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So I think back in the day, the Sci Fi
Channel used to have an anime Saturday mornings, and I
think they might have played this then, because I believe
I have seen this before.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
They may have.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I had never heard of it until that, but I
know I looked it up and there was at quite
a following for it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I hadn't seen it, I'll be honest. So it
wasn't a bad watch for me. I didn't mind it.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
But did I hear you say you turned it on
at work?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, I can tell you you don't work like where
people are over your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Actually I do, you do?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I know, I know if it was like me when
we were in the office, man, I would have not
got away.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
We'll watch it, well, I mean, I have everyone that
I work with bought so though they'll never hear this.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But I'm a driver, so I'll just deal with that.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah no, So, I mean you're not sitting in an
office with people around you, so.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I just thought I misheard you. You're good.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It reminded me. There were vncing pieces of it that
reminded me of Demon Cities Shinjuku that came out late eighties,
like eighty eight or eighty nine, but the art style
and story kind of were reminiscent of that. I actually
looked it up to see if maybe this as it
started that that's what this was, just under a different name,
(03:20):
because sometimes they changed the names of them, or an
American name has a different name and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, I know the plot on this was like the
Great Mother Spirit created demons guardians and then the humans
were there.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I think what was it, twenty eighty nine was the
year this was supposed to take place, ye.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Stuffing like that.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So in the guardians were trying to protect the humans
from the demons.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
And things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So this, like I said, I didn't mind it. It
wasn't a bad watch for me. I think they could
have stretched it out a little bit, gave it a
little bit more to it, because forty five minutes was
quick for me.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, I go ahead, Mark, No, you go ahead, Agel forgetting.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
No shit. Then Belly beats us all, Yes I do.
He's got me by like a few months. But it
still gets me that these eighties and nineties anime have
better animation than most modern stuff and it's all hand drawn.
That still just gets me.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, it was just a story to me.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Was there was parts of it just to me, maybe
not everybody, that it was quick or jumpy, And that's
that's the only thing that got me, because I went
back and rewatched it again. But again, it wasn't a
bad thing. It was just you had to literally pay attention.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Like the first time I watched it,
like I I was kind of like, Okay, I missed
something here because I thought it was a show. For one,
I didn't know it was a short movie. I was
kind of bummed that it wasn't a show.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, A lot of the animated some of the A
lot of the movies during that time period were shorter.
Our forty five minutes, our twenty minutes. They weren't our
forty five two hours like a lot of them are.
I know, Kira was pretty long, but it's also that
Dragonball are like the ones responsible for making anime popular
(05:23):
in the States.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Forgive me, mister nili All.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Anyway, Oh yeah, I was kind of lost at first
time I was watching or I was reading people talk
about it, and everybody was.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Like, what was the plot? What was the plot? What this?
And I'm just like I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Then I went back and watched it again and I
was like, man, thisbe's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And then I was gonna buy the Blu Ray. But
I don't know if I'm gonna trust this website I
found so good.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, like I said, I watched it twice. The first time,
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't catch the plot. The
second time I caught the plot and I realized it
it should full plot into like halfway through.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
There was a plot at some point.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
About half you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, Oh, there was a there was a plot in there,
but not not the plot we're talking about. I mean,
if you want to go to the sex Dungeon and
things like that, that's all on you.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I will go there.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean it did take place at the Crystal.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Box, yes, and sacrificed all the girls in there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'm pretty sure the pun was intended.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh yeah, this maybe was very sexual.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Which seemed to what at least that should make at
least three of our picks having some sort of anime
sex scenes.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yes, yeah, yeah, how about like how about like low
key like incest.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Scene with their flying in the air and you're licking
off the blood.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, that stuff was weird.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Hey, nothing says nothing like marrying your cousin.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Hey, I'm gonna say this. I say I'm gonna mess
with Brandon. I think they were from Alabama, so we're
all good.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I mean, I've never married a cousin. I can't say
I've kissed the one or not, but.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I've got family from Alabama. But it's it's a running joke,
so I had to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, you wanted to kind of get a wat from
Malama earlier today.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Hey whatever, it's just a couple of a couple of
states away.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Right, You're just trying to get their applications in. That's
an inside jokey' Sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It's all relatives Virginia.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
There are a lot of things a relative dressed Virginia
that shouldn't anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So so basically just trying to sum up the story
a little bit. There was this drug that out there
that if you took it, it made you like bulk
up and strong. And everything, and if you took it
once or twice, it didn't mess with you. But if
you continued to take it, you eventually turn into like, yeah, monster.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
You like this, dude's from t that's that the Ninja
Turtal movie. The second one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, that was the only good one.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Shout out hey. The first one was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, I mean that series of movies, those three, the
original three.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
That was the first one was good though.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, he's agreeing, he said, Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, I mean I met the whole trilogy in the
first three movies from like the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I was about to say, that's what they come at
you with the cancel this episode anyway, Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So the mental health aspect in this, do y'all want
to point it out?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Your sister?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well you that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well one was lost yet right away at the beginning,
was the was it his wife or his girlfriend? The
first guy that changed to a monster almost like killed her.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, if he had just asked her and then it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, so the loss mentally for her. And then later
on it shows him even as monster form could feel
it that uh, he was experiencing loss because he was
afraid that he hurt her killed her.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, that would have been regret well regret also.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, it would have been that would have been a
regretful situation.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I mean, I know he was hungry, but that was ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah, it was pretty hungry and like, yeah later on,
I when I first the second time I watched this,
I thought that that girl was gonna like end up
being some kind of like crazy assassin when she goes
and like up in those people's ship or whatever and
goes and finds something, I watch, it's just new something crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Instead they got we got a really like insane scene
with that. But I was thinking that one was about
to go off, but she didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, that was That was a lot of the trend
in these kind of movies was having a character like
that just destroy everything in sight at a certain point.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, the other trend was always having some underworld uh
people trying to control everything that's going on.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, as far as like you had the cops looking
for that monster and then turn around and have this
other whole team that's run by. We find out later
it's the actual demon that's running it, trying to contain
the monster and hide it from the rest of the world.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Sounds really accurate to our current state in America right now.
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So we're going that route now, not not really okay,
just checking.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I was leaving that one alone. I thought he was
getting to bring up cracker barrel.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
They we went there yesterday and we're safe for now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
H Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But the other thing we hit on it a little
bit was do you want to call it medication or
whatever drugs they were giving them, just the fact that
they're being controlled by those drugs or it's being hidden
what the side effects are is what we experience every
day in life as it is now, like several drugs
(12:05):
that they'll put out and then months later, years later,
they'll find that there's this side effect that could have
been deadly or that is deadly that people start experiencing.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Are you talking about things like the opioid crisis and
a pandemic or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah. Most of the drugs are made to pharmaceuticals are
made to mimic natural chemicals, but they end up having
all kinds of side effects that the natural stuff doesn't have.
Do you want me to go down that rabbit hole?
Or are we just going to leave them.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Go ahead, you can go down that rhad.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
This is short. Maybe we need to get a lengthy
podcast now.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's a lot of medications are based off of certain
plants and chemicals founded plants throughout the world, and the
side effects come from the fact that there artificially produced.
They also depend a lot on the addiction aspects and
the side effects causing you to need more medications to
(13:11):
deal with the side effects. So that's just a whole
scam in and of itself. But I'm not the crazy
one here.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, that's like the ozembic thing that happened recently, where
it's really it was meant for like diabetics to begin with,
but then people started using it for weight loss and
started having side effects.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah, I can speak for that. Well, I was mandurro,
but yeah, I can speak for that. It was insane.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I was sick for two weeks for no reason.
It was really stupid.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, Well that it doesn't help that you have celebrities
glorifying the use of a lot of these things like
o zimpec. Right now, there's a lot of them. They
call it a zimpig face where the cheeks kind of
seek in and the cheakbones stick out and everything. They said,
that's a side effect of the use of that stuff,
(14:06):
where it just drained so much out of the body.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I know that at the time, or at a certain point,
it was making it hard for the diabetics to get
the o zimpic.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
See, I'm on trillicity, so I don't take those epics.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But I know that even with Trillicity sometimes I've had
problems getting it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well. I mean, I'm on fatacidy and just can't control
the elbow action with food.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, is that roasted chicken you the other day?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Hey, I turned that thing into like four meals.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Don't give me shit, dude, Wait a minute, it lasted
for four I thought it was just one.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I ate. Wow, I made like three more dishes out
of it the rest of the week.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I'll mess with you, Mark. Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Didn't see you driving to get over here.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Was like taking me a day to get there.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, it had had taken him like fourteen hours. So
Belly lives a long way away. He's on the coast.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Wait, I thought therebon I thought he lived close to Josh.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I do.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
He's about ninety minutes from Josh.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
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Speaker 4 (16:51):
We get it.
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Speaker 5 (17:12):
Hey, should we give away Josh's address home podcast?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
No, that's that's all right. Uh, I'm not trying to
get Josh in trouble. No giving out his address.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
For everyone listening to this. I'll just show you know this.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I recently found out that if you that you can
sign up your friends to be witness.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yes. Yeah, yeah, I'm not giving you my address.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Well, I think we should all do it for Josh.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I've already had some them just randomly come to my door.
As it is, I'm not giving my address.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
One of us can send it to his house, the
other one can send to his work.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I ain't doing that at him because he's not
even there right now.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
He's he's on the road.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's even better.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So they can just come in and wait for him.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The things that happened when Josh isn't on the podcast
to control us. I know, the babysitter all.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
I'm just gonna be honest though on this on the air,
you guys like I am, I apologize. I started off
really not really there, so I was kind of like
just kind of get through this. They apologize to that
as very professional. I just had a really extremely hard
week and today's been kind of one of those days
where it's been back and forth with things, and when
(18:34):
I was trying to get this stupid microphone to work,
a lot of what's happening in that moment, and when
I finally got settled, I still was having to deal
with a couple of other things trying to do this.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So, you know, so I apologize.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
This podcast is for mental health, so I'm pretty sure
you're forgiven. And we saw you having problems with the microphone.
I was messing with you because you're rich, had space
behind you instead of your window, and uh, we were
like joking with you as and I said, it's not
I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But you couldn't hear me.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh, yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear any of that
I heard was, Oh, I didn't hear you.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I heard, I heard jiggle a little bit, and then yeah,
I heard because.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
We heard you for a split second and it went out.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And so and then I kind of find out the
fantasy football league man is drafting right now, and no
one told me.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Uh mine, mine did yesterday morning, and I got one Wednesday.
So yeah, I'm like, it's it's my It's as you
used to put it, it's my sports dungeons and dragons.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Leave me alone, dude.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Fantasy football is just dungeons and dragons for sports people.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Fantasy hockey season any one second? Sorry, what all was working?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
You were good.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
He's in purgatory right now.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Isn't he like a little baity little dog.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
We don't have a bigel little yes, do do.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
He's in there with my wife taking the nap. Oh
Kenobi's like he's our youngest dog, but he's kind of
weird looking. I don't know how to pronounce describe him, Obie.
But we have a new kitten named Shiba, and he's
trying to like get rough with her, so we haven't
put him up in purgatory.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
So we call it and he's wanting out. He'll be
all right, he doesn't have the high ground right now.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We picked up a small bag.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
God, we've gotten off the rails.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, and I mean, honestly, this this episode was gonna
be short anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I mean that episode was only that movie was only
forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And Josh told me, I'm just saying this in the
air that our August episodes have been smaller or shorter
because the animes aren't as long as regular movies.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
They just scroll was like an hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, but some of the other ones we like short.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, one of the greatest shows of all time
is Steinfelder and it's a show about nothing, and sitting
here rambling could be very entertaining.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I mean you were talking a minute ago.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
So yeah, because that has been a very very hard week, and.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
In that my mental health effected how I've been the
last twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And I apologize, And so I'm just being honest about it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, no, I get it, but I'm saying, you don't
have to apologize. This is a mental health podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So I want to break my dot My Dot Pepsy
and shut up.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I mean, I'm sitting here drinking tea and painting miniatures.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
So you're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Huh you're doing what with your miniature painting miniatures? Model?
Were naming stuff?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The stuff I talk about off and on all the time.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Oh man, this draft pick Jade and daniels As.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You better have a good year this year.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Dosh will be editing all that out. You know that, right?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Hip? You are right?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Do we have anything else on the I know this
is like short. We didn't get much on this one.
Do we have anything else we want to talk about
in the anime itself?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well, I guess excuse me, hold on what really? Cat?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
The cat debated me on this on this movie. It's
just I'm I'm obsessed, Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and
just put.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It out there to people.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I do not like most modern anime from like the
Two Year, two thousand and six, seven, maybe eight to now,
I don't. I I grew up in the nineties with
Nandi's anime. I grew up in two thousands. I grew
up on Cowboy, Beatbop, Evan glon right, what was the
all that stuff? Ergo Proxy all that stuff and stuff
(23:08):
like this, because there's still so many I've.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Never seen before. It's like it's like new to.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Me and so like this just like the style, the
hand drawn style, this captivates me and that's why it
made me so like in draw of this movie, is
it perfect?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But does it hit that that niche that the hit
that nostalgic like piece in me that brings me comfort.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yes, hits all the bells and whistles.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's it's neat to kind of go back and
see some of this older stuff the way it's just done,
the way it was animated, the different styles, and then
compare it today with a lot of that overly kind
of cute the animation where everything has the proportion of kittens. Yeah,
(24:00):
you laugh, But that's actually their proportions they use. That's
a fact. Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, a lot of modern anime for the faces they
kind of use kitting proportions for the faces on people.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's interesting. I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, I just like I don't know, man, Like first off,
like modern anime, I know classic animes are like there's
some there like this, but like if if someone says, hey,
you should watch this anime and I look and there's
seven seasons.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I'm saying no, so don't tell you to watch One Piece.
I know what that is. I just never got it.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
How many seasons is that Mark Over?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I don't know. I don't watch that one my daughter has.
But I am not ashamed to admit that I still
watch dragon ball Oh.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Like I sit there and say that dragon Ball Z
is like, well, my favorite shows of all time period,
but it's I think it's but it's because I had
the nostalgic factor with that, Like that was what was
on when I got home from school on Tai shout
out to Tom.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But y'all are older at me. You have hard I
don't know, no talk.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I watched Tami answer to answer my own question. One
Piece has oneisodes.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I don't ever watch that.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
That's stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I was like you, I grew up on Cowboy Bebop.
I grew up on Dragon Ball Z and everything. Uh
was it Neon Evigilian?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Say it? Say it?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Neon Genesis Evigilian. And then I started watching some of
the newer ones because we have crunchy roll, so I'll
sit down and watch some of them with my kids.
There's a couple of them I don't mind watching. So
I've gotten to where I love the old style and everything.
But in my I guess in my brain, I'll separate
of these are the classics, these are good, and then
(25:55):
these are just what's now.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
So yeah, I haven't found motter and newer things that
really hit that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
That factor for me.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Like recently I started watching Dandy Dan and like the
opening of that, That's why captivated me because it was.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Very Nandies opening.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, and it was like the closest thing that I've
seen in a while to like a two D handron thing.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Now, it might be more out there.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I just don't know about them because I'm not seeking
them out because that's not in my interest to seek
them out.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah. But then when I asked people, they like, you
should just watch my hero Caredamia.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
No, I've watched all of those.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I like, Yeah, I'm waiting for the rest of the
dub So I'm being honest, Well, there should be a
couple more coming out soon.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, I don't know. I thought about watching it, like
do you all like Naruto?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, to watch it a couple of times and just
couldn't get into it.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I watched it one of my sons.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's that was his favorite anime growing up, so of
course I watched.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
It with them.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Does he do the run?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh no, I mean when we were trying to run
from the alien to Area fifty one.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Sure, yeah, no, yeah he did. All the kids used
to do it as a joke.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And now they're going to do the little thing from weapons.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Hey, hey, hey, I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
It's only it's on the freaking poster.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I'm like I have.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Avoided commercials and everything for that because there's been so
many movies that have been ruined by the previous that. No, thanks, okay, yeah,
because I was waiting to watch Superman until it's streaming.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Rush up, lottest kids? You know skits?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
What what's that?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Oh yeah, you don't know. What'd you say on your
wattest kids?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Skits?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The kids?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You know? You ever seen that?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The whitest kids?
Speaker 6 (27:54):
You know?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I've heard of them.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
The director is at Tiger was in that. It was
the friend members of that show, and there's a lot
of like subtle callbacks to that because his best friend
Trevor was also in the show.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
He died a few years ago, So this movie was
actually written help him cope was that with Trevor's death.
And there's a few things in this movie that I
called back to some of the Trevor skis and a
lot of kids.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So yeah, I've I've never seen it, so.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Oh dude, So I can't say some of the things
on the podcast. Josha had definitely edited it out, so.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Especially because you're talking about a different movie.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
No, I would say, if you enjoy the style of
this one, yeah, definitely go check out Demon, said he Shinjuku.
I know it's on Amazon Prime, or at least it
was for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm gonna say if you go to watch this one,
literally sit down to watch. It can't be background noise
like you do with a lot of animes. You've just
pay attention.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, Aggress is really quick, and because it's only forty
five minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And sometimes, like for me, it may be a two watch,
you've got to go back and rewatch it because if
if it's anything like I was, like I said at
the beginning, this thing flew so quick that I lost
some of the plot and everything until I watched it
the second time.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Sorry, I picked that such a complicated Movieguin.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
You you are good. I don't mind. I liked it.
I'm just glad that we got to do anime for August.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
We could do it for a temper two no, no,
no surprise.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh no. Oh well we'll get into that later whenever
we all say we're done going over this movie because
it's the Three of Us next week?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Wait? I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I got, I got, I got to pick. I'm
picking the movie and this the Three of Us recording.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I didn't know that I was supposed to be a
part of that. Yeah, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Well we can we could talk about that. But okay,
all right, but are we It's there anything else that
we want to cover on this movie?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Probably not real handsome, Uh dude, that was killing demonska.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
So yeah, I think we hit everything on this movie.
Like we said, this was a quick one. This is
probably gonna be a shorter episode. It's just it's the
nature of the beast whenever it's a quicker movie. But uh, Mark,
I already know the answer. I know every they can
find you here, But is there anywhere else they can
find you here here here, we own your rights, we
(30:48):
own you. You're good, You're here, Brandon, Where can everybody
find that?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Politically correct to say no?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
But we we've tagged you as like property for is kidding?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Not getting any better for you?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Billy?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I noticed? I noticed, Brandon? Where can everybody find you?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
At Mark's house?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Hey, y'all are close enough dinner?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Hey ahead? Brendon W.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Miller under score two five at Instagram and then Breden W.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Miller on a letterbox.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And speaking of letterbox, you can find me on a
letterbox at v A Boy ninety nine. You can also
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(31:46):
and Patreon abys gazing. We always put new episodes out
every Wednesday night at six pm, so this should be
coming out six pm Wednesday night. As for our next episode,
as we stated earlier, surprise September, Well, surprise, guys. I
found a movie that has Ryan Reynolds and Anna Kendrick Innett.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And he guesses, I don't know, hold on, let me look.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Twenty it's gonna be the twenty fourteen movie. The voices, Oh,
I am that movie.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
So we'll watch the voices, anybody else the voice, the voices,
the voice.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And it's Ryan Reynolds, Annie Kendrick, Gemma Arterton, and I
forgot who else is in it, but I have a
copy of it. Yeah, it's a weird movie.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
And that's my pick a weird one.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And if you anybody wants to watch along with us,
I can tell you it's on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yes, it is on prom And.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So until next time, remember the longer you gaze into
the abyss, the more you get.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
There, the longer your garanted, your bit blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Until next time, remember, the longer you gaze into your abyss,
the more the abyss gazes back into you.
Hey, you are listening to abys Gazing horror podcast where
we celebrate all things spooky and mental health.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm still your co host Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm your other co host Brandon or something, and this.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Is Billy. And as you could tell, we are Josh
less again this.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Week, So we'll be josh lyss this week and next
week it's going to be the three of us covering
next week. Also, Brandon, this was your pick. This is
the last animate August pick.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
What was your pick? And tell us about it?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Wow, I forget the name of it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'll tell you got me because I mistyped it Twilight of.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I just I I had a I've had a long week,
and I took a nap a minute ago and I
just woke up.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And then a lot was going on.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I got you, Yeah, till out of the Dark Master,
which is something I never heard of until recently.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Excuse me.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
It was the work one day and I was watching
one of these things on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was like a dude post like.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
An anime block from like old anime from the nineties,
and I put those things on all the time at
work of different like cartoons, and that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Played and I was like, what is this.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I've never seen this before. What the fuck was that?
And I thought it was cool. So when an opportunity
was given, I was like, Hey, that's horror, so we'll
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So I think back in the day, the Sci Fi
Channel used to have an anime Saturday mornings, and I
think they might have played this then, because I believe
I have seen this before.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
They may have.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I had never heard of it until that, but I
know I looked it up and there was at quite
a following for it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I hadn't seen it, I'll be honest. So it
wasn't a bad watch for me. I didn't mind it.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
But did I hear you say you turned it on
at work?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, I can tell you you don't work like where
people are over your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Actually I do, you do?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I know, I know if it was like me when
we were in the office, man, I would have not
got away.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
We'll watch it, well, I mean, I have everyone that
I work with bought so though they'll never hear this.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But I'm a driver, so I'll just deal with that.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah no, So, I mean you're not sitting in an
office with people around you, so.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I just thought I misheard you. You're good.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It reminded me. There were vncing pieces of it that
reminded me of Demon Cities Shinjuku that came out late eighties,
like eighty eight or eighty nine, but the art style
and story kind of were reminiscent of that. I actually
looked it up to see if maybe this as it
started that that's what this was, just under a different name,
(03:20):
because sometimes they changed the names of them, or an
American name has a different name and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, I know the plot on this was like the
Great Mother Spirit created demons guardians and then the humans
were there.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I think what was it, twenty eighty nine was the
year this was supposed to take place, ye.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Stuffing like that.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So in the guardians were trying to protect the humans
from the demons.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
And things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So this, like I said, I didn't mind it. It
wasn't a bad watch for me. I think they could
have stretched it out a little bit, gave it a
little bit more to it, because forty five minutes was
quick for me.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, I go ahead, Mark, No, you go ahead, Agel forgetting.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
No shit. Then Belly beats us all, Yes I do.
He's got me by like a few months. But it
still gets me that these eighties and nineties anime have
better animation than most modern stuff and it's all hand drawn.
That still just gets me.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, it was just a story to me.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Was there was parts of it just to me, maybe
not everybody, that it was quick or jumpy, And that's
that's the only thing that got me, because I went
back and rewatched it again. But again, it wasn't a
bad thing. It was just you had to literally pay attention.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Like the first time I watched it,
like I I was kind of like, Okay, I missed
something here because I thought it was a show. For one,
I didn't know it was a short movie. I was
kind of bummed that it wasn't a show.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, A lot of the animated some of the A
lot of the movies during that time period were shorter.
Our forty five minutes, our twenty minutes. They weren't our
forty five two hours like a lot of them are.
I know, Kira was pretty long, but it's also that
Dragonball are like the ones responsible for making anime popular
(05:23):
in the States.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Forgive me, mister nili All.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Anyway, Oh yeah, I was kind of lost at first
time I was watching or I was reading people talk
about it, and everybody was.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Like, what was the plot? What was the plot? What this?
And I'm just like I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Then I went back and watched it again and I
was like, man, thisbe's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And then I was gonna buy the Blu Ray. But
I don't know if I'm gonna trust this website I
found so good.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, like I said, I watched it twice. The first time,
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't catch the plot. The
second time I caught the plot and I realized it
it should full plot into like halfway through.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
There was a plot at some point.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
About half you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, Oh, there was a there was a plot in there,
but not not the plot we're talking about. I mean,
if you want to go to the sex Dungeon and
things like that, that's all on you.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I will go there.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean it did take place at the Crystal.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Box, yes, and sacrificed all the girls in there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'm pretty sure the pun was intended.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh yeah, this maybe was very sexual.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Which seemed to what at least that should make at
least three of our picks having some sort of anime
sex scenes.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yes, yeah, yeah, how about like how about like low
key like incest.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Scene with their flying in the air and you're licking
off the blood.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, that stuff was weird.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Hey, nothing says nothing like marrying your cousin.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Hey, I'm gonna say this. I say I'm gonna mess
with Brandon. I think they were from Alabama, so we're
all good.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I mean, I've never married a cousin. I can't say
I've kissed the one or not, but.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I've got family from Alabama. But it's it's a running joke,
so I had to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, you wanted to kind of get a wat from
Malama earlier today.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Hey whatever, it's just a couple of a couple of
states away.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Right, You're just trying to get their applications in. That's
an inside jokey' Sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It's all relatives Virginia.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
There are a lot of things a relative dressed Virginia
that shouldn't anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So so basically just trying to sum up the story
a little bit. There was this drug that out there
that if you took it, it made you like bulk
up and strong. And everything, and if you took it
once or twice, it didn't mess with you. But if
you continued to take it, you eventually turn into like, yeah, monster.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
You like this, dude's from t that's that the Ninja
Turtal movie. The second one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, that was the only good one.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Shout out hey. The first one was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, I mean that series of movies, those three, the
original three.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
That was the first one was good though.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, he's agreeing, he said, Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, I mean I met the whole trilogy in the
first three movies from like the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I was about to say, that's what they come at
you with the cancel this episode anyway, Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So the mental health aspect in this, do y'all want
to point it out?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Your sister?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well you that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well one was lost yet right away at the beginning,
was the was it his wife or his girlfriend? The
first guy that changed to a monster almost like killed her.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, if he had just asked her and then it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, so the loss mentally for her. And then later
on it shows him even as monster form could feel
it that uh, he was experiencing loss because he was
afraid that he hurt her killed her.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, that would have been regret well regret also.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, it would have been that would have been a
regretful situation.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I mean, I know he was hungry, but that was ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah, it was pretty hungry and like, yeah later on,
I when I first the second time I watched this,
I thought that that girl was gonna like end up
being some kind of like crazy assassin when she goes
and like up in those people's ship or whatever and
goes and finds something, I watch, it's just new something crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Instead they got we got a really like insane scene
with that. But I was thinking that one was about
to go off, but she didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, that was That was a lot of the trend
in these kind of movies was having a character like
that just destroy everything in sight at a certain point.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, the other trend was always having some underworld uh
people trying to control everything that's going on.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, as far as like you had the cops looking
for that monster and then turn around and have this
other whole team that's run by. We find out later
it's the actual demon that's running it, trying to contain
the monster and hide it from the rest of the world.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Sounds really accurate to our current state in America right now.
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So we're going that route now, not not really okay,
just checking.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I was leaving that one alone. I thought he was
getting to bring up cracker barrel.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
They we went there yesterday and we're safe for now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
H Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But the other thing we hit on it a little
bit was do you want to call it medication or
whatever drugs they were giving them, just the fact that
they're being controlled by those drugs or it's being hidden
what the side effects are is what we experience every
day in life as it is now, like several drugs
(12:05):
that they'll put out and then months later, years later,
they'll find that there's this side effect that could have
been deadly or that is deadly that people start experiencing.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Are you talking about things like the opioid crisis and
a pandemic or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah. Most of the drugs are made to pharmaceuticals are
made to mimic natural chemicals, but they end up having
all kinds of side effects that the natural stuff doesn't have.
Do you want me to go down that rabbit hole?
Or are we just going to leave them.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Go ahead, you can go down that rhad.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
This is short. Maybe we need to get a lengthy
podcast now.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's a lot of medications are based off of certain
plants and chemicals founded plants throughout the world, and the
side effects come from the fact that there artificially produced.
They also depend a lot on the addiction aspects and
the side effects causing you to need more medications to
(13:11):
deal with the side effects. So that's just a whole
scam in and of itself. But I'm not the crazy
one here.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, that's like the ozembic thing that happened recently, where
it's really it was meant for like diabetics to begin with,
but then people started using it for weight loss and
started having side effects.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah, I can speak for that. Well, I was mandurro,
but yeah, I can speak for that. It was insane.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I was sick for two weeks for no reason.
It was really stupid.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, Well that it doesn't help that you have celebrities
glorifying the use of a lot of these things like
o zimpec. Right now, there's a lot of them. They
call it a zimpig face where the cheeks kind of
seek in and the cheakbones stick out and everything. They said,
that's a side effect of the use of that stuff,
(14:06):
where it just drained so much out of the body.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I know that at the time, or at a certain point,
it was making it hard for the diabetics to get
the o zimpic.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
See, I'm on trillicity, so I don't take those epics.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But I know that even with Trillicity sometimes I've had
problems getting it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well. I mean, I'm on fatacidy and just can't control
the elbow action with food.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, is that roasted chicken you the other day?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Hey, I turned that thing into like four meals.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Don't give me shit, dude, Wait a minute, it lasted
for four I thought it was just one.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I ate. Wow, I made like three more dishes out
of it the rest of the week.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I'll mess with you, Mark. Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Didn't see you driving to get over here.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Was like taking me a day to get there.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, it had had taken him like fourteen hours. So
Belly lives a long way away. He's on the coast.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Wait, I thought therebon I thought he lived close to Josh.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I do.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
He's about ninety minutes from Josh.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
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This is the heartbeat or why we do what we do.
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and every day on American soil, and when you scale
back internationally, there are eight hundred thousand successful suicides. That
is one death roughly every forty seconds. So if you
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Speaker 4 (16:51):
We get it.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Suicide, depression, mental health. These are hard topics and this
stigma around them doesn't make it any easier. But please
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Speaker 5 (17:12):
Hey, should we give away Josh's address home podcast?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
No, that's that's all right. Uh, I'm not trying to
get Josh in trouble. No giving out his address.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
For everyone listening to this. I'll just show you know this.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I recently found out that if you that you can
sign up your friends to be witness.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yes. Yeah, yeah, I'm not giving you my address.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Well, I think we should all do it for Josh.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I've already had some them just randomly come to my door.
As it is, I'm not giving my address.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
One of us can send it to his house, the
other one can send to his work.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I ain't doing that at him because he's not
even there right now.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
He's he's on the road.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's even better.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So they can just come in and wait for him.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The things that happened when Josh isn't on the podcast
to control us. I know, the babysitter all.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
I'm just gonna be honest though on this on the air,
you guys like I am, I apologize. I started off
really not really there, so I was kind of like
just kind of get through this. They apologize to that
as very professional. I just had a really extremely hard
week and today's been kind of one of those days
where it's been back and forth with things, and when
(18:34):
I was trying to get this stupid microphone to work,
a lot of what's happening in that moment, and when
I finally got settled, I still was having to deal
with a couple of other things trying to do this.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So, you know, so I apologize.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
This podcast is for mental health, so I'm pretty sure
you're forgiven. And we saw you having problems with the microphone.
I was messing with you because you're rich, had space
behind you instead of your window, and uh, we were
like joking with you as and I said, it's not
I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But you couldn't hear me.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh, yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear any of that
I heard was, Oh, I didn't hear you.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I heard, I heard jiggle a little bit, and then yeah,
I heard because.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
We heard you for a split second and it went out.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And so and then I kind of find out the
fantasy football league man is drafting right now, and no
one told me.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Uh mine, mine did yesterday morning, and I got one Wednesday.
So yeah, I'm like, it's it's my It's as you
used to put it, it's my sports dungeons and dragons.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Leave me alone, dude.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Fantasy football is just dungeons and dragons for sports people.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Fantasy hockey season any one second? Sorry, what all was working?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
You were good.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
He's in purgatory right now.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Isn't he like a little baity little dog.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
We don't have a bigel little yes, do do.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
He's in there with my wife taking the nap. Oh
Kenobi's like he's our youngest dog, but he's kind of
weird looking. I don't know how to pronounce describe him, Obie.
But we have a new kitten named Shiba, and he's
trying to like get rough with her, so we haven't
put him up in purgatory.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
So we call it and he's wanting out. He'll be
all right, he doesn't have the high ground right now.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We picked up a small bag.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
God, we've gotten off the rails.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, and I mean, honestly, this this episode was gonna
be short anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I mean that episode was only that movie was only
forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And Josh told me, I'm just saying this in the
air that our August episodes have been smaller or shorter
because the animes aren't as long as regular movies.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
They just scroll was like an hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, but some of the other ones we like short.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, one of the greatest shows of all time
is Steinfelder and it's a show about nothing, and sitting
here rambling could be very entertaining.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I mean you were talking a minute ago.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
So yeah, because that has been a very very hard week, and.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
In that my mental health effected how I've been the
last twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And I apologize, And so I'm just being honest about it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, no, I get it, but I'm saying, you don't
have to apologize. This is a mental health podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So I want to break my dot My Dot Pepsy
and shut up.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I mean, I'm sitting here drinking tea and painting miniatures.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
So you're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Huh you're doing what with your miniature painting miniatures? Model?
Were naming stuff?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The stuff I talk about off and on all the time.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Oh man, this draft pick Jade and daniels As.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You better have a good year this year.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Dosh will be editing all that out. You know that, right?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Hip? You are right?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Do we have anything else on the I know this
is like short. We didn't get much on this one.
Do we have anything else we want to talk about
in the anime itself?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well, I guess excuse me, hold on what really? Cat?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
The cat debated me on this on this movie. It's
just I'm I'm obsessed, Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and
just put.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It out there to people.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I do not like most modern anime from like the
Two Year, two thousand and six, seven, maybe eight to now,
I don't. I I grew up in the nineties with
Nandi's anime. I grew up in two thousands. I grew
up on Cowboy, Beatbop, Evan glon right, what was the
all that stuff? Ergo Proxy all that stuff and stuff
(23:08):
like this, because there's still so many I've.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Never seen before. It's like it's like new to.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Me and so like this just like the style, the
hand drawn style, this captivates me and that's why it
made me so like in draw of this movie, is
it perfect?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But does it hit that that niche that the hit
that nostalgic like piece in me that brings me comfort.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yes, hits all the bells and whistles.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's it's neat to kind of go back and
see some of this older stuff the way it's just done,
the way it was animated, the different styles, and then
compare it today with a lot of that overly kind
of cute the animation where everything has the proportion of kittens. Yeah,
(24:00):
you laugh, But that's actually their proportions they use. That's
a fact. Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, a lot of modern anime for the faces they
kind of use kitting proportions for the faces on people.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's interesting. I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, I just like I don't know, man, Like first off,
like modern anime, I know classic animes are like there's
some there like this, but like if if someone says, hey,
you should watch this anime and I look and there's
seven seasons.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I'm saying no, so don't tell you to watch One Piece.
I know what that is. I just never got it.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
How many seasons is that Mark Over?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I don't know. I don't watch that one my daughter has.
But I am not ashamed to admit that I still
watch dragon ball Oh.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Like I sit there and say that dragon Ball Z
is like, well, my favorite shows of all time period,
but it's I think it's but it's because I had
the nostalgic factor with that, Like that was what was
on when I got home from school on Tai shout
out to Tom.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But y'all are older at me. You have hard I
don't know, no talk.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I watched Tami answer to answer my own question. One
Piece has oneisodes.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I don't ever watch that.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
That's stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I was like you, I grew up on Cowboy Bebop.
I grew up on Dragon Ball Z and everything. Uh
was it Neon Evigilian?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Say it? Say it?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Neon Genesis Evigilian. And then I started watching some of
the newer ones because we have crunchy roll, so I'll
sit down and watch some of them with my kids.
There's a couple of them I don't mind watching. So
I've gotten to where I love the old style and everything.
But in my I guess in my brain, I'll separate
of these are the classics, these are good, and then
(25:55):
these are just what's now.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
So yeah, I haven't found motter and newer things that
really hit that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
That factor for me.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Like recently I started watching Dandy Dan and like the
opening of that, That's why captivated me because it was.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Very Nandies opening.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, and it was like the closest thing that I've
seen in a while to like a two D handron thing.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Now, it might be more out there.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I just don't know about them because I'm not seeking
them out because that's not in my interest to seek
them out.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah. But then when I asked people, they like, you
should just watch my hero Caredamia.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
No, I've watched all of those.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I like, Yeah, I'm waiting for the rest of the
dub So I'm being honest, Well, there should be a
couple more coming out soon.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, I don't know. I thought about watching it, like
do you all like Naruto?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, to watch it a couple of times and just
couldn't get into it.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I watched it one of my sons.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's that was his favorite anime growing up, so of
course I watched.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
It with them.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Does he do the run?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh no, I mean when we were trying to run
from the alien to Area fifty one.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Sure, yeah, no, yeah he did. All the kids used
to do it as a joke.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And now they're going to do the little thing from weapons.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Hey, hey, hey, I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
It's only it's on the freaking poster.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I'm like I have.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Avoided commercials and everything for that because there's been so
many movies that have been ruined by the previous that. No, thanks, okay, yeah,
because I was waiting to watch Superman until it's streaming.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Rush up, lottest kids? You know skits?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
What what's that?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Oh yeah, you don't know. What'd you say on your
wattest kids?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Skits?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The kids?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You know? You ever seen that?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The whitest kids?
Speaker 6 (27:54):
You know?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I've heard of them.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
The director is at Tiger was in that. It was
the friend members of that show, and there's a lot
of like subtle callbacks to that because his best friend
Trevor was also in the show.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
He died a few years ago, So this movie was
actually written help him cope was that with Trevor's death.
And there's a few things in this movie that I
called back to some of the Trevor skis and a
lot of kids.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So yeah, I've I've never seen it, so.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Oh dude, So I can't say some of the things
on the podcast. Josha had definitely edited it out, so.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Especially because you're talking about a different movie.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
No, I would say, if you enjoy the style of
this one, yeah, definitely go check out Demon, said he Shinjuku.
I know it's on Amazon Prime, or at least it
was for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm gonna say if you go to watch this one,
literally sit down to watch. It can't be background noise
like you do with a lot of animes. You've just
pay attention.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, Aggress is really quick, and because it's only forty
five minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And sometimes, like for me, it may be a two watch,
you've got to go back and rewatch it because if
if it's anything like I was, like I said at
the beginning, this thing flew so quick that I lost
some of the plot and everything until I watched it
the second time.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Sorry, I picked that such a complicated Movieguin.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
You you are good. I don't mind. I liked it.
I'm just glad that we got to do anime for August.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
We could do it for a temper two no, no,
no surprise.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh no. Oh well we'll get into that later whenever
we all say we're done going over this movie because
it's the Three of Us next week?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Wait? I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I got, I got, I got to pick. I'm
picking the movie and this the Three of Us recording.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I didn't know that I was supposed to be a
part of that. Yeah, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Well we can we could talk about that. But okay,
all right, but are we It's there anything else that
we want to cover on this movie?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Probably not real handsome, Uh dude, that was killing demonska.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
So yeah, I think we hit everything on this movie.
Like we said, this was a quick one. This is
probably gonna be a shorter episode. It's just it's the
nature of the beast whenever it's a quicker movie. But uh, Mark,
I already know the answer. I know every they can
find you here, But is there anywhere else they can
find you here here here, we own your rights, we
(30:48):
own you. You're good, You're here, Brandon, Where can everybody
find that?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Politically correct to say no?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
But we we've tagged you as like property for is kidding?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Not getting any better for you?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Billy?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
I noticed? I noticed, Brandon? Where can everybody find you?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
At Mark's house?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Hey, y'all are close enough dinner?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Hey ahead? Brendon W.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Miller under score two five at Instagram and then Breden W.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Miller on a letterbox.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And speaking of letterbox, you can find me on a
letterbox at v A Boy ninety nine. You can also
find follow this podcast and our parent company, Victims and
Villains on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube reads, wherever you find your podcast,
(31:46):
and Patreon abys gazing. We always put new episodes out
every Wednesday night at six pm, so this should be
coming out six pm Wednesday night. As for our next episode,
as we stated earlier, surprise September, Well, surprise, guys. I
found a movie that has Ryan Reynolds and Anna Kendrick Innett.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And he guesses, I don't know, hold on, let me look.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Twenty it's gonna be the twenty fourteen movie. The voices, Oh,
I am that movie.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
So we'll watch the voices, anybody else the voice, the voices,
the voice.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And it's Ryan Reynolds, Annie Kendrick, Gemma Arterton, and I
forgot who else is in it, but I have a
copy of it. Yeah, it's a weird movie.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
And that's my pick a weird one.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And if you anybody wants to watch along with us,
I can tell you it's on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yes, it is on prom And.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So until next time, remember the longer you gaze into
the abyss, the more you get.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
There, the longer your garanted, your bit blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Until next time, remember, the longer you gaze into your abyss,
the more the abyss gazes back into you.
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