June 17, 2025 • 15 mins
On this edition of ACF 411, Russ talks to Micky Dolenz of The Monkees about what to expect on Sunday August 17th when he performs at the Allen County Fair as part of his "Songs and Stories" Tour!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we are back to Allen County Fairs Official
Podcast ACF four one one. It's a very special edition
and of course it's the official podcast of the Allen
County Fair powered by Nutrient and I'm your host, Russ Decker,
and it's we're excited to announce, you know, this is
the one hundred and seventy fifth Allen County Fair and
to celebrate the anniversary, they're having a very special day
(00:23):
on Sunday, August seventeenth. There still will have a celebration Sunday,
they're calling it, and they're going to have a bunch
of free stuff going on in the grandstand and the
highlight of that show will be Mickey Dolan's of the
Monkeys again. That's on Sunday, August seventeenth. The concert's free,
so there's no excuse not to be there. We should
pack this place to see this guy. He's going to
be incredible and he's joining me on the podcast from California.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So Mickey Dolans of the Monkeys.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome, well, welcome, thank you. It's good to be back.
I was at the very first affair one hundred and
seventy five years ago.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, so were you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So were you coming as Mickey Dolan's a circus boy
at the time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, looking forward to it. Love
doing those big county fairs.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, we're so much looking forward to having you there.
I was going to start the interview a whole different direction,
but then last week happened. So I've got to ask
you rock and roll music, we lost the legend last
week and passing up Brian Wilson. Your thoughts about Brian
and I know you knew him.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, it was a tough one. Well they always are,
but boy, somebody like that that was so iconic, that
just my god. I mean, he created an entire genre
of music. But I mean, you know, I don't know
(01:52):
what can you say? I posted something. Yeah, I knew
him pretty well. I knew him since like the sixties,
early seventies, you know, and we all know that he
had some issues and health issues, but he still managed
to pump out incredible, incredible music. It defined and all
(02:18):
kind of an entire generation, you know, can.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You say absolutely an icon And there's a connection to
Lima in that Al Jardine one of his best friends
and co founders of these Boys.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
This is Alan's hometown. I'm Ohio's yeah, so yeah, big
big beach boys.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So so your concert tour this year is called Mickey
Dolans and the Monkeys Songs and Stories. What kind of
stories might we hear from you when you're here?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, it's been an interesting little little journey I've been.
I've told stories on and off, you know, for you know,
for years, little not so much when I was with
the other guys on a you know, a monkey show,
but whenever I was solo, I did tend to tell
(03:08):
little bits and pieces. Like one of the first little
bits I used to that I've done for years is
tell the story of how Jimmy Hendrix came to be
the opening act for the Monkeys the first Monkey tour.
Everybody's heard that story. Now everybody knows, and you know
basically what happened. I found him, not found him. I
(03:30):
was invited to a show in New York at the
Village the John Hammond Band, an incredible band, of course,
and they said you got to come see this guy.
They played guitar with his teeth, John Hammond's sideman, and
I went down. Sure enough, a great show and this
(03:50):
kid is playing guitar behind his head and over, you know,
with his teeth, and that's all I remembered. And tell
the Monterey Pomp Festival where I was and you know,
with the who and Mama's and pappas, and all of
a sudden, this guy comes on stage with two other
(04:11):
you know, incredible musicians, all dressed up and they're just
killing it. And I go, there, that's the guy that
plays guitar with his teeth. And sure enough, it was
the Jimmy Hendrix experience by then, so I thought it
would make a great mix because they were very theatrical.
The Monkeys was very theatrical. It was a theatrical act,
(04:33):
and I guess there are people liked it. Our people
liked it because sure enough, Jimmy Hendrix was the was
the first opening act of the Monkey. So I tell
this story and it has a bit of a punchline,
but you'll have to come to the show if you
want to hear the punchline. But anyway, I would tell
these little stories on and off, and then I gradually
(04:54):
over the years I realized that people really loved the story,
especially if they're followed by a punchline. And the punchline
is a song that has something to do with the story,
and I tell a story about Stephen Stills and Elton
(05:14):
John and I have one actually I've been working on
about Brian Wilson. And that's it. That's basically. Sorry to
ramble on there, but that's basically that's basically it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So, you know, I'm thinking about the you know, all
the great music that the Monkeys are known for, and
and it all came from some an incredible cast of writers,
you know, Neil Diamond, Gary Carly Simon, Neil Sedaka.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow, you guys have what a writing crew.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I mean, I was blessed I still am to be
able to sing these songs, you know, and people say, well,
how do you keep singing these after so many years
hit on the and I it's because they're great songs.
It's kind of hard to mess them up, you know.
Carol King didn't write many Duff tunes, you know, and
(06:12):
Neil Diamond, like you say, and Harry Nielsen and David
Gates and Paul Williams and boys and Hart, Tommy Boyce
and Bobby Hart two of the great pop songwriters who
wrote some of our biggest hits. So it's it's you know,
and then when the audience appreciates it so much and
sings along. And I always do the songs in their entirety.
(06:36):
I don't do Medley's I don't, you know, do short
hand versions or anything. I've always vowed to do the
songs in their entirety because I know that's what people
want to hear.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know. So I've seen you a couple of times
and love your show.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And one of the songs I like was actually, I
think it was probably the most hit you had was
back from the nineteen eighties, but that was then. This
is now, and I was Vance right from Herman's Hermans
wrote that one.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Vance Frescia absolutely, and he was on stage with me
just a couple of months ago. We have hit him
to be coming through town and whatever. Whenever he is around,
I always invite him up on stage. Another thing I'm
doing is trying to invite people up that I know.
If I happened to go through town or New York
(07:31):
or somewhere and out here in LA I had Paul
Shaffer come up and play a couple of tunes. You know,
whenever it's possible, great musicians like Phil Cagy and Lord Shuber,
and you know, whenever I have an opportunity though invite
somebody has to do a tune, you know, I kind
(07:53):
of I kind of play like like Ed Sullivan and
wonderful show Tonight, So.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Love me Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So when you're putting your music together, I think it's
a question a lot of your fans ask, is there
are so many great monkey songs that the Monkeys are
known for that that you, Mickey Dolans are known for.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
How do you pick a set list?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, it's it's pretty simple, actually, because of the wonderful
library of material that I have to choose from. I
always do all the hits, always the big hits, the
big number one, two or three, you know whatever, And
that already is like six eight tunes. And then there
(08:43):
were many album cuts that did very very well because
of the television show that were on the show. They
weren't necessarily singles, but are really well known because of
repeated plays on the television show. So that also then
is pretty easy to pick. And then I found out
(09:04):
over the years that as long as the audience knows
that I'm going to be doing those big hits, and
now my audiences do know, then I've discovered over the
years that I can kind of you know, pepper, salt
and pepper. It here with lots of different stuff. Like
I just mentioned, I tell stories and do other people's songs,
(09:28):
tell stories about the Beatles when I was there in
London in the sixties at some of the sessions for
Sergeant Pepper. And then I can do a little bit
of a song or a Beatles song, write and do
a like I mentioned, a song by somebody else if
I have a connection, if I have a story, and
then there's these incredible album cuts, and it kind of
(09:51):
depends a bit also on the venue. If it's in
a club late at night, you know, small club, let's say,
it might be a different set than say at a
big daytime county fair. That can change up a little bit.
But I have a musical director, way Navers does an
(10:13):
incredible job of doing set lists and picking the you know.
But like I say, I mean, some of it is
what we call them can't can't not dos, which are
things like in my case it be I'm a believer,
(10:34):
lest train to Clarksville pleasantly Sunday's you know, those of
the can't can't not dos, And like I say, I'm
so fortunate and I'm so blessed to have, you know,
almost an entire set just of top ten tunes.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So, Mickey, I've got to ask.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So it all started sixty years ago, in September.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of nineteen sixty five, right when there was a sixty six. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, So but in sixty five is when the ad
appeared in the Daily Variety looking for and I love
this quote four insane boys.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, I saw that. Not at the time. I
had an agent because I had been in a series
as you know, you mentioned Circus Boy in the fifties.
So I didn't go to the what they call the
cattle call, but a lot of people did. I had
(11:36):
an agent, so I had a well, I had a
private audition, because when one has had one's own series,
one gets a private audition.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, I think one deserved it, so one does.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yes, So next year, the Big sixty at the anniversary
though the show airing in sixty six, any surprises coming
up next year?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well, you know, funny, you should ask, because I'm in
the midst of having conversations even this week with the
record company and with others, and you know, thinking about
it a lot, actually getting my ducks in a row.
So I don't know about a huge surprise. I'll obviously
(12:20):
I'll be touring like I do all the time anyway,
and we'll just see, we'll see what kind of comes together.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Watch the Skies, all right, we will. So just a
couple of last things before we let you go, because
I know you've got things to do. But one of
my favorite quotes about the Monkeys comes from John Lennon,
and he called the Monkeys the Marx Brothers of rock
and roll.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He absolutely right. He thought about that even before I did,
because he was so intelligent, so bright. Absolutely, the Monkeys
was the Mark's Brothers Eagles. The Monkeys was television show
about a band that wanted to be the Beatles, and
(13:05):
I tell a nice story about that in my show.
I'll be telling that when I come and see you guys.
But he was absolutely right. Yeah, the Monkeys was much
more like the Marx Brothers.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then before I let you go, I've got to
ask you this because you impacted my life personally and
hundreds of thousands of others. But back in the sixties,
you guys were the band that every garage band across
the US tried to mirror. I mean I got a
perm so I could have your hair and have like
the throat thing. But I mean we so you know,
(13:39):
I think about that. I mean cover garage bands were
all over the place. They were playing all the high
school dances, and you know, twenty five thirty percent of
our playlist were Monkey covers.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You guys had such a big impact.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, do you realize, I mean all these bands
were wanted to be the Monkeys.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, that's exactly what I was just saying is The
Monkey was a show about a band that wanted to
be famous, wanted to be the Beatles. That's what our
show is about. It's important to note that on the
television show, the Monkeys never made it. It was the
struggle for success that I think endeared it to all
(14:19):
those kids like yourself whoever, that were in their basement's,
garages and living rooms practicing trying to be famous. The
Monkeys never made it on the television show. It was
the struggle for success that I think is one of
the reasons it was so successful because all those kids
out there could identify with that.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, Mickey, that's great, madam.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
We are so much looking forward to you to come
into Lime, Ohio and the Allen County Fair that's on Sunday,
August seventeenth. It's a free shows that come on out.
There are a very few limited VIP seats that are
right in front of the stage and if you're interested
in those, you can get those at Alancofair dot com
go online and get those. Otherwise, it's free. Come out
and have a great time. See Mickey Dolan's and songs
(15:07):
and stories. It's gonna be great. Mickey, thanks for.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Joining us today.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Thank you so much for your time. See you in all.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Right, and that's going to wrap up this edition of
ACF four one one, the Allen County Fair Podcast. Thanks
to our engineer Alex Swliff and our producer Troy Eller.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Thank you guys, and we'll see you at the Fair.
All right, we are back to Allen County Fairs Official
Podcast ACF four one one. It's a very special edition
and of course it's the official podcast of the Allen
County Fair powered by Nutrient and I'm your host, Russ Decker,
and it's we're excited to announce, you know, this is
the one hundred and seventy fifth Allen County Fair and
to celebrate the anniversary, they're having a very special day
(00:23):
on Sunday, August seventeenth. There still will have a celebration Sunday,
they're calling it, and they're going to have a bunch
of free stuff going on in the grandstand and the
highlight of that show will be Mickey Dolan's of the
Monkeys again. That's on Sunday, August seventeenth. The concert's free,
so there's no excuse not to be there. We should
pack this place to see this guy. He's going to
be incredible and he's joining me on the podcast from California.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So Mickey Dolans of the Monkeys.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome, well, welcome, thank you. It's good to be back.
I was at the very first affair one hundred and
seventy five years ago.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, so were you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So were you coming as Mickey Dolan's a circus boy
at the time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, looking forward to it. Love
doing those big county fairs.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, we're so much looking forward to having you there.
I was going to start the interview a whole different direction,
but then last week happened. So I've got to ask
you rock and roll music, we lost the legend last
week and passing up Brian Wilson. Your thoughts about Brian
and I know you knew him.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, it was a tough one. Well they always are,
but boy, somebody like that that was so iconic, that
just my god. I mean, he created an entire genre
of music. But I mean, you know, I don't know
(01:52):
what can you say? I posted something. Yeah, I knew
him pretty well. I knew him since like the sixties,
early seventies, you know, and we all know that he
had some issues and health issues, but he still managed
to pump out incredible, incredible music. It defined and all
(02:18):
kind of an entire generation, you know, can.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You say absolutely an icon And there's a connection to
Lima in that Al Jardine one of his best friends
and co founders of these Boys.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
This is Alan's hometown. I'm Ohio's yeah, so yeah, big
big beach boys.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So so your concert tour this year is called Mickey
Dolans and the Monkeys Songs and Stories. What kind of
stories might we hear from you when you're here?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, it's been an interesting little little journey I've been.
I've told stories on and off, you know, for you know,
for years, little not so much when I was with
the other guys on a you know, a monkey show,
but whenever I was solo, I did tend to tell
(03:08):
little bits and pieces. Like one of the first little
bits I used to that I've done for years is
tell the story of how Jimmy Hendrix came to be
the opening act for the Monkeys the first Monkey tour.
Everybody's heard that story. Now everybody knows, and you know
basically what happened. I found him, not found him. I
(03:30):
was invited to a show in New York at the
Village the John Hammond Band, an incredible band, of course,
and they said you got to come see this guy.
They played guitar with his teeth, John Hammond's sideman, and
I went down. Sure enough, a great show and this
(03:50):
kid is playing guitar behind his head and over, you know,
with his teeth, and that's all I remembered. And tell
the Monterey Pomp Festival where I was and you know,
with the who and Mama's and pappas, and all of
a sudden, this guy comes on stage with two other
(04:11):
you know, incredible musicians, all dressed up and they're just
killing it. And I go, there, that's the guy that
plays guitar with his teeth. And sure enough, it was
the Jimmy Hendrix experience by then, so I thought it
would make a great mix because they were very theatrical.
The Monkeys was very theatrical. It was a theatrical act,
(04:33):
and I guess there are people liked it. Our people
liked it because sure enough, Jimmy Hendrix was the was
the first opening act of the Monkey. So I tell
this story and it has a bit of a punchline,
but you'll have to come to the show if you
want to hear the punchline. But anyway, I would tell
these little stories on and off, and then I gradually
(04:54):
over the years I realized that people really loved the story,
especially if they're followed by a punchline. And the punchline
is a song that has something to do with the story,
and I tell a story about Stephen Stills and Elton
(05:14):
John and I have one actually I've been working on
about Brian Wilson. And that's it. That's basically. Sorry to
ramble on there, but that's basically that's basically it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So, you know, I'm thinking about the you know, all
the great music that the Monkeys are known for, and
and it all came from some an incredible cast of writers,
you know, Neil Diamond, Gary Carly Simon, Neil Sedaka.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow, you guys have what a writing crew.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I mean, I was blessed I still am to be
able to sing these songs, you know, and people say, well,
how do you keep singing these after so many years
hit on the and I it's because they're great songs.
It's kind of hard to mess them up, you know.
Carol King didn't write many Duff tunes, you know, and
(06:12):
Neil Diamond, like you say, and Harry Nielsen and David
Gates and Paul Williams and boys and Hart, Tommy Boyce
and Bobby Hart two of the great pop songwriters who
wrote some of our biggest hits. So it's it's you know,
and then when the audience appreciates it so much and
sings along. And I always do the songs in their entirety.
(06:36):
I don't do Medley's I don't, you know, do short
hand versions or anything. I've always vowed to do the
songs in their entirety because I know that's what people
want to hear.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know. So I've seen you a couple of times
and love your show.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And one of the songs I like was actually, I
think it was probably the most hit you had was
back from the nineteen eighties, but that was then. This
is now, and I was Vance right from Herman's Hermans
wrote that one.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Vance Frescia absolutely, and he was on stage with me
just a couple of months ago. We have hit him
to be coming through town and whatever. Whenever he is around,
I always invite him up on stage. Another thing I'm
doing is trying to invite people up that I know.
If I happened to go through town or New York
(07:31):
or somewhere and out here in LA I had Paul
Shaffer come up and play a couple of tunes. You know,
whenever it's possible, great musicians like Phil Cagy and Lord Shuber,
and you know, whenever I have an opportunity though invite
somebody has to do a tune, you know, I kind
(07:53):
of I kind of play like like Ed Sullivan and
wonderful show Tonight, So.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Love me Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So when you're putting your music together, I think it's
a question a lot of your fans ask, is there
are so many great monkey songs that the Monkeys are
known for that that you, Mickey Dolans are known for.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
How do you pick a set list?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, it's it's pretty simple, actually, because of the wonderful
library of material that I have to choose from. I
always do all the hits, always the big hits, the
big number one, two or three, you know whatever, And
that already is like six eight tunes. And then there
(08:43):
were many album cuts that did very very well because
of the television show that were on the show. They
weren't necessarily singles, but are really well known because of
repeated plays on the television show. So that also then
is pretty easy to pick. And then I found out
(09:04):
over the years that as long as the audience knows
that I'm going to be doing those big hits, and
now my audiences do know, then I've discovered over the
years that I can kind of you know, pepper, salt
and pepper. It here with lots of different stuff. Like
I just mentioned, I tell stories and do other people's songs,
(09:28):
tell stories about the Beatles when I was there in
London in the sixties at some of the sessions for
Sergeant Pepper. And then I can do a little bit
of a song or a Beatles song, write and do
a like I mentioned, a song by somebody else if
I have a connection, if I have a story, and
then there's these incredible album cuts, and it kind of
(09:51):
depends a bit also on the venue. If it's in
a club late at night, you know, small club, let's say,
it might be a different set than say at a
big daytime county fair. That can change up a little bit.
But I have a musical director, way Navers does an
(10:13):
incredible job of doing set lists and picking the you know.
But like I say, I mean, some of it is
what we call them can't can't not dos, which are
things like in my case it be I'm a believer,
(10:34):
lest train to Clarksville pleasantly Sunday's you know, those of
the can't can't not dos, And like I say, I'm
so fortunate and I'm so blessed to have, you know,
almost an entire set just of top ten tunes.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So, Mickey, I've got to ask.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So it all started sixty years ago, in September.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of nineteen sixty five, right when there was a sixty six. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, So but in sixty five is when the ad
appeared in the Daily Variety looking for and I love
this quote four insane boys.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, I saw that. Not at the time. I
had an agent because I had been in a series
as you know, you mentioned Circus Boy in the fifties.
So I didn't go to the what they call the
cattle call, but a lot of people did. I had
(11:36):
an agent, so I had a well, I had a
private audition, because when one has had one's own series,
one gets a private audition.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, I think one deserved it, so one does.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yes, So next year, the Big sixty at the anniversary
though the show airing in sixty six, any surprises coming
up next year?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well, you know, funny, you should ask, because I'm in
the midst of having conversations even this week with the
record company and with others, and you know, thinking about
it a lot, actually getting my ducks in a row.
So I don't know about a huge surprise. I'll obviously
(12:20):
I'll be touring like I do all the time anyway,
and we'll just see, we'll see what kind of comes together.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Watch the Skies, all right, we will. So just a
couple of last things before we let you go, because
I know you've got things to do. But one of
my favorite quotes about the Monkeys comes from John Lennon,
and he called the Monkeys the Marx Brothers of rock
and roll.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He absolutely right. He thought about that even before I did,
because he was so intelligent, so bright. Absolutely, the Monkeys
was the Mark's Brothers Eagles. The Monkeys was television show
about a band that wanted to be the Beatles, and
(13:05):
I tell a nice story about that in my show.
I'll be telling that when I come and see you guys.
But he was absolutely right. Yeah, the Monkeys was much
more like the Marx Brothers.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then before I let you go, I've got to
ask you this because you impacted my life personally and
hundreds of thousands of others. But back in the sixties,
you guys were the band that every garage band across
the US tried to mirror. I mean I got a
perm so I could have your hair and have like
the throat thing. But I mean we so you know,
(13:39):
I think about that. I mean cover garage bands were
all over the place. They were playing all the high
school dances, and you know, twenty five thirty percent of
our playlist were Monkey covers.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You guys had such a big impact.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, do you realize, I mean all these bands
were wanted to be the Monkeys.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, that's exactly what I was just saying is The
Monkey was a show about a band that wanted to
be famous, wanted to be the Beatles. That's what our
show is about. It's important to note that on the
television show, the Monkeys never made it. It was the
struggle for success that I think endeared it to all
(14:19):
those kids like yourself whoever, that were in their basement's,
garages and living rooms practicing trying to be famous. The
Monkeys never made it on the television show. It was
the struggle for success that I think is one of
the reasons it was so successful because all those kids
out there could identify with that.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, Mickey, that's great, madam.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
We are so much looking forward to you to come
into Lime, Ohio and the Allen County Fair that's on Sunday,
August seventeenth. It's a free shows that come on out.
There are a very few limited VIP seats that are
right in front of the stage and if you're interested
in those, you can get those at Alancofair dot com
go online and get those. Otherwise, it's free. Come out
and have a great time. See Mickey Dolan's and songs
(15:07):
and stories. It's gonna be great. Mickey, thanks for.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Joining us today.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Thank you so much for your time. See you in all.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Right, and that's going to wrap up this edition of
ACF four one one, the Allen County Fair Podcast. Thanks
to our engineer Alex Swliff and our producer Troy Eller.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Thank you guys, and we'll see you at the Fair.
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