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On this episode of Adventures In Vinyl, Adam and I discuss the debut album of a band that was officially formed in the year 2000 in a basement in Merrick, New York.  That band is Brand New and the album is Your Favorite Weapon.


Song of The Week!

Anna Begins - Counting Crows - August and Everything After
The Poet - Ryan Bingham - Junky Star

Stump The Barron!
Grace Too - The Tragically Hip - Day For Night

Brand New - Your Favorite Weapon

Genre:  Punk Rock
Release Date:  October 9th, 2001
Studio(s):  Magic Shop Recording Studios (Manhattan), Tom and Andy Nada Studios (New Windsor), Sapone Productions (New York)
Producer(s): Mike Sapone, Brand New
Label:  Triple Crown
Length: 41:27
Number of Tracks:  12

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this episode of Adventures in Vinyl, ab and I
discussed the debut album of a band that was officially
formed in the year two thousand in a basement in
New York. That band is brand new and the album
is your favorite weapon.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I keep hearing this little click click every time we
do an intro, and I think I left the metronome
on in logic. Ah, when I rip this, I may
have to take the little roadcaster home and redo that.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I know, I know, it didn't really bother me to
be on. I just didn't.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's like I faintly notice it, but I can't tell.
I have to go back and check the track, gotcha. Hey, well,
welcome to another adventure, another episode. Adventure, another adventure, which
means another episode of Adventures in Vinyl. I'm Todd Ward
and Whitby is the former bass player of the band
at the Resistors at Barn that nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Has ever heard of. Fun. This year they did Asylum Springs, Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hey, it's a nice little bit of trivia. Yeah sure, Hey,
guess what it's birthday month? It is birthday month and
next weekend's record Storday. Yeah, yeah, that should be fun. Yeah,
I got a list of stuff. I think I'm going
after a couple of live albums.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I've got a bunch of I've got a whole
list going.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, let me know if you if you like, you
need me to pick up anything, the fundage, the fundage, Yeah, yeah,
let go.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Nothing's getting any cheaper here in America.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I know. You know what, I actually pulled the trigger
on a new MacBook Pro because of the tariff stuf.
The actually thinking about getting a new car sooner rather
than later. Yeah, because you know when the tariffs hit man. Yeah,
I even used vehicles.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Are going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, it's all next week, right, is when it's all
supposed to get in. And that's just uh, I know,
it's definitely looking uh we're looking at that long term,
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
And it's been such a busy year.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I mean we're already in April and and uh, like
I don't know whether I'm coming or going. Yeah, I've
been absolutely inundated over the past few weeks, in particular,
just getting slammed, whether it's.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Work or just family life.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, so much going on. Like you know, Nicole's doing
well with the new business. Work is extremely busy for
me at the moment. Yeah, and just lots of late nights.
And then I'm just looking at our schedule, like we've
got vacation coming up in May. We also I'll have
a CDC coming up in me and then August, Nicole
and I are gonna go see.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oasis in Chicago. That's great. So it's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
But you know, and it made prepping this episode really
really kind of hard for me trying to find the time.
But you know, I I was struggling a lot with
the song of the week this week, Like I just
really couldn't find anything, and he tried to find something
pretty hard that would be cool, and uh, you know,
and and so it was some downtime. I always we
talk about Rick Biotto on that YouTube channel a lot.

(02:47):
It's this podcast. He's great, Hey, let's talk about Rick
Biatto today. But you know, I so this song kind
of came up. Well, I guess the interview that he
went did was really cool. I started watching it, and
so it kind of brought up this song. So Rick
Beauta had an interview with Adam Durretz, you know from
the Counting count Grows, Yeah, which is really good. He

(03:08):
kind of goes in that hole where he came from
and all the different bands, and so when I was
watching that, it just kinda I like August and Everything
After as an album.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, good album. I think it's a really good album.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm surprised we have covered in we will, but you know,
it's I really enjoy it. But one of the my
favorite songs on the album is the fifth track, and
it's Anna Begins. I just love the way that musically
it is composed, I love the lyrics. I like the
vocals that Adam Durretz does. So I kind of picked
that off their debut album, August and Everything After that

(03:42):
was released in you know, that magical two year where
like every freaking album that came out was great, and
we've covered maybe twenty percent of everything that came out
in ninety two ninety three, if even that. But I
mean I remember this album and Jim Blossom's New Miserable Experience, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Weezer Blue album.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Those three albums in particular were on very heavy rotation
for me.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
So, I mean I listened to this album many many times.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh yeah, like I had, you know, a lot of crushes.
You know, this is what I listened to after my
heart was broken because I didn't know how to talk.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
To any girl back then. Yeah, you know, all that
fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
That's a great album, man, au guess and everything after.
It's definitely when we need to cover here and just
in future. So, so what about you, man, I've been
watching a lot of well really, I'm only in the
first season at this point, but I've been watching the
show Yellowstone.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh, and several folks had recommended it to me.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's not when my wife's can enjoy, so I've just
been watching it on my own.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I'm interested to like, I have my own opinion
of Yellowstone, and I've been watching a lot.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Of Taylor Sheridan stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
And to the end, there's some things I've really liked
about Yellowstone and how it could have been an awesome show,
and then there's a but you'll have to get your
on your path.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I hear.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
There was some drama with the fifth season with Kevin
Costner in the show, stuff like that. But man, so
I started watching recently, several of the clips of the
show started popping up on my YouTube left him right, Yeah, yeah,
and one clip that I came across and I haven't
seen this episode yet, but it's where the old cowboy Lloyd,
he smashes the other cowboy Walker's.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh, that's such a great episode, the whole conflict between
Walker and the old guy Lloyd.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, it is such a good conflict.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
So Walker is played by Ryan Bingham. Yeah, and man,
I guess so basically he smashes his guitar and then
Lloyd goes and buys Walker a new and even better guitar.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think it's a waterloo. Which those are nice guitars
because he traded in his buckle.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, And so I was struck by the song that
Walker plays for Lloyd after he gets this new guitar.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yea. And it's the song we're listening to right now.
It's called The Poet.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, and it's off of Ryan Bingham's third studio album
released in twenty ten called Junkie Star Man.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Just his voice, the deepness of his lyrics.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, he has this raspiness yes to his voice. It's
just an honesty in his voice in a lot of ways.
He's not trying to be pretentious, just in the way
that he sounds. But man, so I've since dove down
a hole Ryan Bingham rabbit hole. Oh, guys, ridiculously talented.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't know what the heck has happened, like, but
after the like, I started looking at a lot of
these artists emerging in Nashville, and you and I've been
trading texts back and forth, sending like what would be
classified as country songs that are not country songs. I mean,
these guys are like talking about deep stuff that's not
what you would consider with country that we grew up on. Uh,

(06:38):
there's merging of like grunge and different genres in there.
And you're seeing this.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
And you know it's a metamorphosis, yes genre, right, and
I think it's and I'm trying to figure out whose
generation of kids, you know, like what generation is doing this,
because I think when Gen X came to the names,
Bingham's like a year or two older than me, right right,
But yeah, yeah, but like some of these like Steven
Wilson Junior, the one I just essentially like that one

(07:07):
totally floored me. And I was just as I started
listening to some of these guys, I'm like, wow, there's
some pretty deep stuff in there. Yeah yeah, I mean
just very emotional lyrics, powerful voice. I'm not an acoustic
music guy, but Man, I love Ryan Bingham. That's nice man,
that's cool. I mean really, I'm incredibly impressed with him.

(07:28):
And not only that, but from the clips that I've
seen for the show, which i'll get there eventually, to
the season where he appears, it just kind of seems
like he's almost the soul of the show in a
lot of ways. Man, what an actor as well, you
know a lot of musicians. You get him into act
it's like, ah.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well there's a character. He's great.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And the one thing I liked about Yellowstone is the
whole character arc. You really buy into, like these cowboy characters,
and as the season progresses, you you know, you get
through all the stuff that I think is a little
bit more exaggerated.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Sure that core, there's something to that culture. Yeah, I'll
just say that.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
You know, if you ever grew up around a New guys, cowboys, ranchers, farmers,
you know a lot of.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Great, great people. Man.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
So go check out the Poet by Ryan Bingham if
you get a chance. Just a excellent song.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And in all honesty, just go check out Ryan Bingham.
He has so much great music out there. Yeah. Yeah,
that's good. Thanks for sharing that.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I haven't listened to anything like I recognized the song
from Yellowstone When you send it to me, I was like,
who's this guy? When I heard, I was like, somebody's
been watching Yellowstone and I was like, oh that's cool.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yep, all right, all right, all right, So on to
the next thing, which.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's another week, and that means another segment of Stump
the Baron. On Stump the Baron, I pick a random
song from a random genre, give Adam a few clues, and,
with all his collective knowledge of music, attempts to guess
the artist, album and song title. This week, go again
back to the year of nineteen ninety five Thinks, in

(09:00):
large part to One Blues Brother. This Canadian band played
this track on Saturday Night Live. The track comes from
their nineteen ninety four album. It was the first single
released off the album. Okay, I don't think you're gonna

(09:23):
get it, but I love this song so much and
with the history behind it, I had to I had
to put it on Stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
To Bear.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
And didn't think it belonged on So I don't immediately
recognize that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
You may on the vocals. Sorry, it was like it
was kind of like thirty percent. I thought that you
may catch.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I like what I hear. Oh yeah, said I'm fabulously rich.
This isn't the hip, is it? Yes, sir, practically it is. Yeah.
I don't know the name of the song, okay, but
I know it's the hip. It is. It is the Hip.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
This is Grace two from the Tragically Hip off the
album Day for Night. So Grace two is the first
single released off their six studio album and it was
their first album to debut at number one on the
Canadian Album's Chart. In nineteen ninety five, the Blues brother himself,
Dan Ackroyd, was approached by Lauren Michaels for a guest
spot on SNL. Ackroyd indicated he would do it, but

(10:28):
they would have to feature his favorite band and fellow
Kingston band, The.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Hip Kingston Ontario Kay Kickson on here Yep.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
John Goodman was actually the host of that episode and
he did not introduce the Hip.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
In addition to Grace to the Hip, played the track
Natural Disaster. So they like the performance they did on
this song on Saturday Night Live like the background. I've
been watching a lot of because it's essen l's fiftieth season.
So if you're a music fan, and you're like bands,
some of all the freaking stuff that's coming out is
just awesome. But you could see all these people love
the Hip at this time, and like you could see

(11:04):
the whole cast like underrated band.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, just because I mean, that's the crazy thing. There's
all these Australian bands, Canadian bands, you know, bands from
countries that maybe aren't as large as the US or
the UK, but they have some really amazing music. We've
talked about Kent in the past. I mean, man, but
the Hip is one of those bands where if you
go to Canada, they're rock stars. Yeah, everybody knows who

(11:27):
the Hip is. Yeah, come to the United States, people
like who I.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Imagine if you look at like Maine, New York, sure
like Buffalo and that part where it's joined. I bet
the Hips really popular there. But I was like, damn,
this is this is a really awesome song.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
They're one of those bands where I don't know if
I mean, I occasionally will listen to Talkis Jericho, Yeah,
Chris Jericho's podcast.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
He's a big fan of the Hip. Of course he's Canadian.
He was born in New York, but he's a Canadian.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, but he's he's a huge fan of the hip
and I mean so I kind of got my introduction
actually through Christianeric. I'd heard the name before, but i'd
never really heard the band. But I've listened to a
few of their tracks, and man, like, these guys are great.
They were at it for years. I think their lead
singer passed away a few years ago cancer, But man,
they were just a fantastic band. Oh yeah, and they

(12:18):
just didn't get the credit that I think they were
due more internationally.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, I would agree anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Just thought when it comes to hey, but look like
I love that. I found that, Like, I was like,
this is awesome. I was like, I hope you just
I was like, there's a good chance that you'll recognize
the band, But I wasn't sure of the song or
the album, so I was like, I think this will.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
It was the voice.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I don't know that I heard the song, but I
recognized Bard's voice. Yep, that's where I was the hit BRD.
I mean, yeah, that's his voice. So yeah, it's cool,
very cool. It's a good choice. Yeah yeah, I thought
that was really good.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
All right, So onto the topic of the week. Yeah,
we're talking about Brand New. You ready to kick this
one off to Let's do it man, alright? Your Favorite
Weapon is the debut album from Merrick New York's own
Brand New. The album Your Favorite Weapon was released on
October ninth of the year two thousand and one. The
album consists of twelve tracks for a total length of

(13:11):
forty one minutes and twenty seven seconds. Kicking off the
album is the track the Shower Scene. The track references
actress Janet Lay's story in the film Psycho and clocks in.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It two minutes and twenty four seconds.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah. So the band originally Jesse Lacy the lead singer.
He was the founding bass player in Taking Back Sunday Wow, which,
of course I don't know if you've heard about this.
Have you ever heard about the feud between Brand New
and Taking Back Sunday.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
You know, the two bands I never really followed because
like I think this was grad school early like grad
school early marriage job year, like where I was like
I was barely listening to anything.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I was still single and wild.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I was kind of into
like Keene and a couple other bands at that time,
but like, yeah, I remember you've talked about it and
since stuff. So that's where I was like, I'm coming
in blind to this whole album. Like I came in
and blind, and during the prep I was more concerned
with like the stuff, and I was like, well, you're
gonna have a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Information on the feud. Sure. I was like, I'm just
interested in listening.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, So basically what happened was the guitar player for
Taking Back Sunday, John Nolan. Yeah, he and Jesse Lacy.
Apparently Jesse Lacy was dating a girl. The girl didn't
want to be with Jesse Lacy, so she picked John Nolan.
And it's always about the girl and it's always about
the girl. So and it's emo. Yeah, of course there's
this big feud that ended up lasting for decades.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
And it's like, dude, she didn't want you. Get over it.
Kind of chill out about like it just didn't work.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
But at the same time, it inspired Jesse Lacey to
write the songs on this album, and this album in
turn turned around and inspired an in general entire generation
of the music. Yeah, I mean Taking Back Sunday and
Brand New are kind of the I wouldn't say that
the founding fathers of emo, but I would say that
they took it and they propelled it into what it was.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
It's kind of like where you think that pop punk
type of sound is.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, that pop punk emo that was kind of its
own genre for several years.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, it's like, you know, when you look at the
main genre of punk rock, there's the sub genres I think,
and this applies to that kind of emo pop punk subgenre.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah. So this one was fun. It's a good song,
my favorite on the album.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
But I really like Jesse Lacey and a Carti's contrasting
vocal dynamics.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, so good song.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
The next one, I would say is probably actually more
up my alley.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, and we're talking about the first and only single
off the album, Your Favorite Weapon. The track is titled
Jue Law in a Semester Abroad. Yeah, so they're referencing
the actor Jude Law.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Jude Law. Yeah, I think he talks about a girl
that broke up with him and went over to the UK.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
He went to one of those hoity toity British schools, oh, Oxford, Oxford, ye, Cambridge.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, So again a little bit more about the band.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
They got together two thousand, they released this album two
thousand and one, toured with Midtown and Glass John. I've
always loved Midtown. They released Dejon, TANDU in two thousand
and three. That one was a pretty big success, got
number sixty three on the Billboard Charts. The next album,
The Devil and God Arraging Inside Me, which I know
several guys who say that's one of their very favorite albums,
and I can't stand it. I'm sorry, I just can't.

(16:11):
I couldn't get into anything on it, hey man. But
it was released in two thousand and six, reached number
thirty one on the Billboard two hundred. That one again
reached gold status. They released Daisy in two thousand and
nine that got to number three, and then the band's
final album, Science Fiction, was released in twenty seventeen after
a long hiatus, went to number one on the Billboard
two hundred. Nice which I did not know and actually

(16:32):
really liked science Fiction. There's some great tracks on it.
I am the Nightmare is really good now. Jesse Lacey
apparently had an affinity for underaged girls. Oh no, and
so there was around the time of that album reaching
number one, he was hit with some allegations. This is
around the me too time and in that timeframe, so

(16:53):
these girls came forward said that they'd gotten together with
him while they were still minors. You know, you got
to kind of look at it from both sides. They
could have been these fan chicks that wanted to get
with the lead singer. He's like, oh, cool, hot, young,
hot young girls. Well I take I d Yeah, So
I mean but that he ever since, the band has
been on an indefinite hiatus. Okay, but man, this song

(17:13):
I really liked.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
This song.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Influenced my breakup obviously, as most of the songs on
the albumar What I like about this one again is
that that call and response that Vincent Accardi and Jesse
Lacy have. They do some harmonization, like right here in
this chorus, but then they also do a lot of
like that ping pong yep vocal, which was something that
you didn't really hear a lot of around that timeframe,

(17:37):
and I think they kind of started to popularize it
alongside bands like Taking Back Sunday and Blink Wwentnity two
and like even Newfound Glory to an extent.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
So yeah, Well, and what's interesting about the single, right
it was the only single released off the album clocks
in three minutes and forty seconds. It was released streaming,
which I as a digital download, which you saw during
the early two That was.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Kind of the beginning of that.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
So that was really as a single November eleventh, two
thousand and two. Then a CD single was released in
June second of two thousand and three and actually had
a B side track called Moshi Mooshi. If you're one
of those seven inch you know LP vinyl guys love
it like The black vinyl seven inch was released the
same day as the Scend single, but had a different
B side. The B side to that seven inch vinyl

(18:21):
was the track I Am Wrong?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Am I Wrong? Sorry? Am I Wrong? Which was about
the B side.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
So it's funny because the girl that introduced me to
this band, this song reminds me of her because she
broke up with me and then like, was it the
one that threw up in your car? No different one?
This one was later.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Okay, because I thought you broke up with the one now.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
I shot her to my sister's wedding and then I
took her to see Harry Potter three with me and
one of my other friends the next day, and then
she broke up with me on the way back with
my buddy in the car with me. Oh, She's like,
I'm sorry, I awkward dude. That's yeah, cold bloody yeah.
All right, man, onto the next one, all right. Sudden
Sudden Death in California is the Carolina I know, sun

(19:04):
death in California. That's what happens whenever the earth opens
up and swallows the whole state.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
But we'll just start over.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Sudden Death in Carolina is the third track off the album,
which Clock said at three minutes and one second Adam
in twenty thirteen's BuzzFeed ranked. In twenty thirteen, BuzzFeed ranked
it as number six on their at Least Hold on Yeah.
In twenty thirteen, BuzzFeed ranked the album the number six
on their thirty six pop albums you need to hear

(19:32):
before you insert F bomb Die list. Yes, I don't
know why. Well so new uh what was it?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
New music experience And in the Yeah they they have
it like as number twenty. I know it's It was
on the list of twenty pop punk albums which will
make you nostalgic. Okay, I mean this is on several
lists as far as like influential emo albums.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Right, and I guess it's based on the teenage inks
type of.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Because that was very prevalent around that time. That music
was really exploding into.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
In the movies you had supporting that, right, we've talked, yes,
we've feature I mean, you have the American.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Pod Crafts soundtracks. We talked about like.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
You know, Can't Hardly Wait, which was huge, So this
kind of it made sense to be based on what
was going on at the time exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
So again, this album was really huge and influential in
that scene. You'll find it on multiple media outlets best
of lists or on lists for that specific genre. And
it's interesting that this one makes so many lists because
in all honesty, this was their least commercially successful album.
It didn't chart, it didn't reach these major sales certifications,
didn't hit gold like their later albums did. But it's

(20:45):
the launching point for the band that kind of took
them on their path. So it's an interesting album. But
I mean, I like this song, and again you could
tell Jesse Lacy is an angry twenty three year old
by now very angry, yes, obviously jaded by break He's.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Hitting the babble hard.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, but I like that the band mixes up the
dynamics in the song, and they really played the strength
of those vocal harmonies.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
They do a great job with vocal harmony. So all right, man,
let's move on to the next one.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Cool, moving on to the next one. Everyone Loves a
Mixtape And it's the title of the fourth track off
the album, and it clocks in a three minutes and
fifty seven seconds.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, so I like the change of pace. It was
nice going from I will say. As I was listening
to this, especially.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
In the gym, it was aggressive and then it slowed down.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, and I was like, oh, that's actually a nice
change of pace. But this isn't necessarily a slow song.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
It just kicks off that way and then it does
pick up over time. It's a nice nod to the
Smith's and Morrissey right there during that first verse. I
actually I like the Smiths, but this one builds nicely
into that first instrumental chorus where the pace kind of
picks up and the guitars hit harder. Man, some really
cool airy drums during the second verse, like they it's

(21:56):
like they pull the microphone away and record and you
get that more like room sound.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Man, It's just a. It's a good dynamic song.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
I like the instrumental outro at the end, kind of chaotic,
but it transitions nicely into the.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Next song as well. So yeah, all right, all right, man,
let's move on. Well, last chance to lose your keys.
We miss we missed.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
The song is the song that we missed, So we'll
go to the fifth song, which is philling my design,
which Clock said.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
That is real stuff, folks, right here, I will tell.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
You, Like and I mentioned, I started blogging like, who's
gonna watch this crap on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Anyway?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
But I was like, oh my gosh, I'm totally gonna
mess up this whole thing.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
It's like, just I had so much going on over
the week. Well, we don't have a producer other than
Todd Ward. Uh and we're we're having fun, so who cares.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
We don't care if these people think any more. I
think it's funny. I think it's funny too.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I like how the band doesn't come in until the
second line of the first verse. Do you notice that, Yeah,
you get the first line out, they drop in right
in the second one, which is a creative dynamic to
include rather than jumping in right at the start. Yeah,
this is actually a song about Jesse Lacey having writer's block.
Oh yeah, not about girls. It's just about writer's block.
He's just like, I can't write anything. I'm just gonna

(23:09):
write about not writing any There you go. That's kind
of like an oxymoron, and it's kind of creative.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's inception. It's inception.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, are you technically have a block and you're writing
about that block?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
But do you really have a block.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I don't know if you're writing about if you're writing
a song about not having a block and not being
able to write.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Songs, do you really have a block? What came first,
the chicken or the other?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I think it's kind of that that, you know, universal
dynamic of quantum physics.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Either WHOA, you're okay? You just said two words that
are way over my head.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Diagbe you know. It's so we sound smart.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I can I can put the metadata quantum physics and
we'll get like one more listener.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You can tell which one of us is an engineer.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
So one thing about this song that impressed me when
you listen to the way the guitar is moving and
the fact that Jesse Lacey is singing over that very
busy guitar line.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Even if it's.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Played in like drop T and it's literally one finger
across three strings, that's still impressive.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, I mean the fact that he can sing the
way he sings while doing this very busy guitar part.
It's pretty active. He's moving up and down the fretboard.
I mean, I was impressed by that. If nothing else,
To be honest with you, I think it's a good song,
but that really got me. Just man, busy vocals, busy
guitar doing them both at the same time.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well done, yep, all right, man, let's move on. Cool.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
The Last Chance to Lose Your Keys is the six
track off the album, clocks into three minutes of twenty
five seconds. We're halfway through the album at um, and
we get a lot of power chords and heavy pop
punk rage.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
And it's funny because this is the last album on
which you saw that being so prevalent. With Brand New, Yeah,
they kind of branched out a little bit more and
incorporated some different influences whenever they release their next album,
Dejon TANDU. So this was like kind of their one
album that sounds like this Anyways, I really, I really

(25:01):
like this song. It's got a catchy intro, great first verse.
They harmonize really well. I mean they're not the Beach
Boys or anything, but the duo singers just find a
way to set themselves apart with those unique vocal harmonies, and.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
It was funny.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
What's funny to me about their repeating of the line
later in the song this isn't high school? Is that
this song reminds me exactly high school? Yeah, it's exactly
what it reminds me of. So it's just kind of
ironic to me how he says over and over again,
this isn't high school.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I'm like, but I'm reminded so much of high school,
just like what high school did you go to?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Mine was completely different, exactly. All right, man, let's move on.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
All right? Have you ever taken the train from Logan
to Government Center? No? All right, Well, this track is
titled Logan to Governments, which I'm assuming is is related
specifically to that. I I'm assuming so, And it clock
said at three minutes of two seconds.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I never knew what it actually well, I'm assuming well, Logan,
Logan's Airports, Logan, Boston, Logan Government Center, right is a
train stop, I believe off that main Blue line or
something that goes through Boston. I've been on that train.
I think that's what the song's about.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Okay, one of my favorite songs on the album. I
really enjoy the guitar riff, real simple bassline with the
vocal harmonies.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, again, they stand out too.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I thought throughout the album the vocal harmonies they sounded good.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah. I love the dynamics of the bridge, the way
the band builds up to it. The bridge just gets
me nodding my head. It's like a breakdown, like what
kind of like one of those hardcore breakdowns, but done
emo style.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Man, just a really good song. The song just gets
me nodding my head. It's simple, but it's got a
really great rhythm to it. So what did you think
about this one?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I thought it was okay, you know, I mean, I
listened to this whole album in several different situations, Like
I did. It was good to listen to the gym
what I find, You know, I've been doing. I bought
like a plated vest, so I've been doing these weighted
vest walks, just trying to get more.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Kind of like a rock style like, yeah, yeah, but
it just its.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Try man, it freaking kills you, like your heartlet gets up.
It's like lifting weights straight for forty five minutes, same
type of Are you.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Just doing like burpies and push ups?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
No, I'm like, literally, I put on this weighted vest
and I start walking around the neighborhood up and down.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Hills, up and down hills with all that load. So
you're rocking.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And it was actually Mike Road there is like eight
miles a day with a ruck on and now just
guys that like lift weights a lot do a bar
bell work. Anyway, listen to this during that situation was
really good. But I found the whole album and the
song's very repetitive. I could see that the too. Yeah,
so it was like everything just seemed to be a

(27:47):
continuation of the previous song.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Not necessarily the worst thing though. No, I'm not saying
it was doing it right bad right, And I'm not
saying if it's just getting repetitive and redundant that yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Well, and you know a lot of and I could
go into some final thoughts, right, but it's not bad.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Now the album could use more dynamics. We'll get to
the final thoughts. We're not that far from the end
at this point.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I mean, yes, But what I liked, right is when
you're looking at the album and you get songs like
the next track, which is the no seatbelt song, right,
and so a lot of these were like, oh, I
identify with the title track because you know, if you're
a Gen xer and you grew up, you didn't wear
a seatbelt, you didn't wear a seat belt. Hell, your
parents three in the back and you just hope you

(28:31):
survived exactly, you know. Yeah, And so like some of
these things I thought was really really kind of cool, right,
real nostalgic. But you know, as we're getting the second
half the album, I just kind of it seemed like
I was listening to the same thing over again and something.
I didn't mind it, but I wasn't like, hey, I

(28:53):
don't know if I'm gonna listen to this album continuously.
I got you, right, But you know, it's not bad.
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I just don't know if it's my cup of tea.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
To be honest, I'll tell you this song in particular,
it's okay, Yeah, there's other ones I like better.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, this song was a little too slow, but yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Know, but I think it does segue nicely into the
next one, which is by far Jesse Lacey's angriest song
on the album.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I would absolutely agree, And we're talking about the ninth
track that shrouded in controversy. Oh yes, seventy times seven
clocks in at three minutes and thirty two seconds. It
was written about a feud between a member of Brand
newon a member of the band Taking Back.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Someday, So John Nolan Jesse Lacey, the aforementioned dumping that happened. Yeah,
so this was Jesse Lacey's disc track if you listen,
I mean so basically, Taking Back Sunday responded with the
song There's No I in Team. The bands would go
on to bad mouth each other forever after, with Taking

(29:54):
Back Sunday at least winning the longevity war if nothing else,
but man, this one makes it obvious that Jesse Lacy.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Really hated John Nolan for stealing his girl. Like just so.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Some of the lyrics during the bridge are just brutal. Yeah, quote,
have another drink and drive yourself home. I hope there's
ice on all the roads and you can think of
me when you forget your seat belt and again when
your head goes through the windshield.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I mean, yikes, dude.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Great song though, it definitely gets my head nodding during
the bridges and gets me thinking about ex girls.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
I think about my ex girlfriends and former friends, and
I'm definitely better off without in my life.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well yeah, and I kind of look at past breakups,
especially when the girl doesn't want you're like whatever, yeah,
like hey whatever, yeah, like I have value.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Especially like if they do it in an insulting way
where it's like, I hope your head goes through the windshield.
Yeah you know, yeah, you don't really, but at the
same time, you feel like.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You do well. And I don't know, like I'm so
glad I'm married and my wife's like.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Not crazy, you don't have to deal with all that,
Like I could imagine being single and date, Like I
don't even I just told my wife, like no, I'd
probably just become a hermit like and move away and
not talk to anybody.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I will say, though, this is probably one of my
three or four favorite songs on the album.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Like this, I thought it was pretty catch. Yeah, I
thought it was fun. Ye all right, man, So let's
move on. To the next one, which, all right, another good.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
One secondary to track off the album. It was included
an alter the Alternatives Press Presses eleven Classic Summer Jams list.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Interesting twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I didn't realize that this one was was on any lists.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, it's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I mean, another great riff, fun lead line, super catchy
chorus that is extremely two thousand and one. Yeah, it's
very two thousand more great vocal harmonies, vocal inner play. Yeah,
I mean, I don't mean this in a bad way,
but this one is definitely a product of its time.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, you know, you're not gonna really.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Hear this today in modern music, which is fine.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's just very much a product of two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, So, I mean, definite continuation of the female rejection theme.
But I mean that's pretty much the entire album.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
So if he was rejected by this many females, maybe
the issue is him and not the girl.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Well, if you look at what happened later, I mean,
I don't know, dude, there's some issues there. I think
he later came out and said that, yeah, I had
a sex addiction. Yeah, okay, that explains a thing or two,
but doesn't take away from his talent. So all right, man,
let's move on to the second to last track.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
We're talking about magazines closing in to finishing this one up,
say eleven track box into two minutes and fifty seconds.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, so again, I see where you're getting where you're
getting the redundancy theme from, because this one does sound
very much like a lot of the other tracks on
the album.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, it's like secondary. I was like, I thought, I
like repeated secondary.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, it's it's yeah, for sure, I understand completely where
you're coming from, especially with it coming right after seventy
times seven. Yeah, but it's a good song regardless. I mean,
if I listen to these as individual songs, they're catchy songs.
Put them on all on an album together, and yes,
it could get redund so, but it's a good song.
I mean, I absolutely enjoy it. It's I like the

(33:06):
sparse like kind of the choppy and sparse sections mixed
up with the more traditional full band like what you
hear in the chorus, and then you get to this.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Just vocals carrying and then but bump yep.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
It's kind of cool. I like that dynamic. Anyways, man,
let's move on to the last one, all right.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
The last track of the album is Soco Emeretto Lime.
That I pronounced that right.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I've ever had
that drink before. I'm assuming that's Southern comfort with Ameretto
and Lime. I'm assuming so a Soco Amaretto lime I
do believe is a Southern comfort.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
It is a cocktail.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Maybe it's two part Southern Comfort, one part Amorado with
Emeretto with line.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I was never an Ameretto fan. Neither do I much
like Doctor Pepper, Yeah, exactly. And I don't like Doctor Pepper.
I don't like Doctor I'm probably one of the like.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Very few Southern boys in the US who cannot stand Doctor.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I didn't grow up in Arkansas necessarily.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, so you know, I came to our saw with
a strong love of mountain dew and pepsi.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
So I do like a nice, cool pepsi every once
in a while.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
But this one, nah, I don't know. Yeah, it's too
whiny for me. Yeah, it just isn't my cup of tea.
I skip it well, And I was kind of like, dude,
come on, yeah, like I conna be eighteen for everybody, really,
you know, like it's and that's kind of what he's saying,
is I want to be eighteen forever. Yeah, oh brother,

(34:25):
I got I got news for you. Yeah, it's not
in the cards. Yeah, you know, it's just kind of like,
you know, this whole album. While the lyrics kind of
detailed the highs and lows, teenage life, got songs about
being bitter, you know, they're about ex girlfriends. You could
tell that the songs were all written probably earlier. Yes,
So I think they wrote these songs shortly after the

(34:47):
inception of the band, and I think some of them
came from even before the band was a thing. Yeah,
I think Lacy had already written some of these songs.
So I mean, yeah, when the album came out, he
was twenty three, So if he had these songs in
the can for two or three years, I mean, the
dude was like twenty one, twenty, you're.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Still a kid. Yeah, Well when your kid when I
was twenty.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well, and everything you're writing about is probably in that
eighteen nineteen year old you know, eighteen nineteen twenty year wherever,
because that's your history, that's what you're coming off of,
So you're in that transition period. So when I think
about this album like from a final thoughts perspective, they
helped kickstart an entire movement with this album. Yeah, and
you can't discount that it's a good album. It's not

(35:26):
a great album, but it's a good album. I would
venture to say that the next album, it's more goes
into that great territory. Yeah, but for its influence and
for the fact that it does have really, you know,
several very strong singles, or they weren't released as singles,
but I would consider them singles like secondary logan the
Government's Popular Tracks seventy times seven. Yeah, Like I'm giving

(35:49):
it a solid seven and a half out of ten. Yeah,
I mean it's very listenable, it's very catchy. Yes, there's
some redundancy, it starts to feel the same after a while,
but if you break it up into.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Songs, good, they're really good songs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I kind of gave it a seven. It was like
kind of seven. Seven and a half is kind of
where I kind of placed it. A lot of it
was for the same like, if I want to listen
to something that's pop punky, I'm gonna go for like
Blink one eighty two. Yeah, So I'm the tappier, not
quite as but also also I was not ever in
that emo area because I was probably you know, just

(36:22):
in a different world.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Sure, you know, you're a different place than the time
that I was really getting into a lot.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah. So, like I, I've been overseas and had come
back and like all.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
My friend and I was kind of starting adulthood, you know,
and that's where just my tasty music changed. I imagine
if I was still, you know, in a different situation,
I may have been a little bit more. I don't know,
but I don't know. It's just kind of not my bag.
But it's still a good album. I'm not gonna own
it on vinyl. It won't be a part of my collection.
I did add it to iTunes music library, my Apple Music.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Library because there are some good songs on it. Yeah,
I mean as an album though, you know, I get it.
I understand where you're coming from. I would agree with
you your your your feedback on it.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Sure, So all right, man, brand New, brand New, your
favorite weapon in the can and not my favorite album
and not.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Your favorite album. So, uh, what do we have coming
up next week?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I think we had talked about throwing it back to
the eighties with the Boss.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
And in his birthday month? Do we want to anything
else we want to add this month?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You know?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Do we want to do some fun stuff that we
just always been putting off? That's normally what we do
during birthday month.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I was thinking through some things, and I mean there's
there's a few ideas that I have. Yeah, there was
nothing that just immediately stuck out to me, like we
absolutely have to cover that, But I think it could
be fun to get into, uh some stuff maybe that
we had done as a discovery section. Okay, I was

(37:48):
thinking about, like, hey, maybe like Dexter and the Moon Rocks.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think that I would love to cover. We could
do EPs.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah, like we've been talking there's a couple of EPs
out there, like Jarflies. We could cover jar Flies from
Alison Chains. We could cover maybe or even new EPs
like Texas King, Dexter in the Moon Walks.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
That would be cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, so something like that.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
But I think next for sure we're gonna do Bruce
Springsteen and we're looking at Born in the USA. I
know I've listed that album twice already, yeah, all the
way through.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, it's a great album. I'll listen to it on.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
I had to drive up to northwest Arkansas this last
Saturday for a funeral one of my my buddy you
remember you met Jordan.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, my buddy Jordan.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
His dad passed away back in January from stage four
pancreatic cancer and they had the celebration of life this
last weekend. And so that album was what I played
the whole way up top off the jeep, Beautiful Day,
oh yeah, and playing Born in the USA, and dude,
like I remembered why I loved Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
So much, I know, and that's such a great album.
It is, like I was like, oh well, this is
definitely on my bond.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
So let's do that one next, and then we'll start
looking at some EPs to have some fun.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
With cool Cool And with that we close another episode
of Adventures and bonal. If you liked the music featured
on this episode, be sure to check out today's episode
notes notes that pops up and it's got all the
links to everything we featured on song in the week
and stump the baron and a link to the album. Yeah,

(39:10):
link to the album, So we start including that in
all of our notes. For more information on the band,
brand New you could check out their website at www.
Fight for your Fight Off Your Demons. Excuse me, www
dot fight Off your Demons dot com. You know, as
I get in my forties, I had to switch to
progressive lenses and I'm still not used to them. So
when I adjust, stuff gets like blurry.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
So yeah, if you enjoyed this podcast, be sure to
check us out at our website at www dot Adventures
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(39:53):
dot Prey dot Armbar and myself at Todd David Board.
I never post, so you know it's there. Look, you
look at it, but you don't contribute consumer of informations, Okay,
I don't really put a whole lot out there, you know,
this whole v log thing. I'm scared to death because
I never put myself out there. Yeah whatever, who cares?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
And with that, I'm Todd Ward and I'm Adam Barons,
and we will see you next time on another thrilling
episode of Adventures in Vinyl.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Thrilling.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
We're not like a true crime podcast or anything like that.
Where do you get thrilling from? Because we mess up,
Because we mess up, and it's an adjectant and everybody's
excited to hear how we screw up.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I know, okay, why wouldn't you I get there. We'll
see you next time, Idios
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