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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this episode of Adventures in Vinyl abb And, I
discussed the seventh studio album that featured seven singles. The
artist is New Jersey's own Bruce Springsteen, and the album
is born in the USA. So many technical difficulties.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Technical difficulties of their own special kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I know, it's like we've been trying to record for
like fifteen minutes, and it's like I'm gonna have to
just take the whole setup back and figure out what's
going on. This is and I've got to edit a
second out because of that delay on hitting the freaking button.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, well, that's okay. You shouldn't take long.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You know. I was. I was kind of sad when
I woke up last Thursday. Val Kilmer died. Did you
see that?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, man, Doc Holliday, Yeah, bamn, Yeah, I know, I know, Iceman, Iceman.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And so you know my song of the week's tribute
to Val Kilmer. There you go, you know, so we
know this is Kenny Loggins danger Zone from Top Gun
off the original Motion Picture soundtrack. I just absolutely love
Ice Fan and Top Gun. Dude. It's an iconic character, right, Yeah, Well,
(01:32):
I mean, bel Kilmer did so many cool things. It
was just he did some many good movies. I was
looking like through his whole repertoire, I mean, his.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
His turn as Doc Holliday is one of the very
best like character performances I think that you'll find out there.
I mean, he was awesome in Heat. Actually, like he
was really good the reloading technique that he used. Yeah,
and Heat is still studied and used by Special Forces operators. Yeah,
I mean because it wasn't something that was necessarily proliferated.
(02:03):
But like he really worked hard on that movie with
his weapon skills. I mean, he was He did a
great job as Batman. He was given a crappy script
and a crappy director, and he did the best he
could with it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I mean did you ever see that movie Sultancy where
he plays like a drug addict?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And yes, and I saw like, well, there's an old
one that I saw him like that's out and he's
like a prison guy. Like, uh, that was most recent,
like before I think he had his throat cancer issue
and I was seeing clips from that movie. I was like,
I'm gonna have to brint that and watch it on
a weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Do you ever see the documentary vowel. Yes, it was
very good.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That was very good, and like Real Genius is still
one of my favorite movies now, you know, Top Secret,
which is a secret. That was another one that's like funny,
like a Val Kilmer. Ghost in the Darkness is another. Yeah, yeah,
Willow is a good one. The Saint with the Saint
with I forget about you know, he was doing all
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the different characters and he just played like it was
like one weird little Val Kilber character after another, which
I know was really good.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was a great actor, all right, man. Yeah, I
I went about yours. I just hopped into the Apple
Music New Music just looking to see what had come out.
It's just something I do usually every couple of few weeks.
And I saw that the Hives had a new track up,
which I've always been a big fan of their brand
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of rock and roll.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Just like I like that kind of in your face stuff.
I listened to this song and I was like, I
needed some new music. It was awesome and I dug
it was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So I've had a frustrating work situation recently, a lot
of stress. I mean you hear the lyrics of this
song though, and it just kind of summed it up,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Well, when something like hit you, you're kind of like
I'm done. Yeah, well and everyone it's like, you know,
the music is such a great coping mechanism, yes, for
for a lot of different things. And I think artists
write what they're going through, and people resonate with the
artists the right song.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You just find that you are where where they were were,
You are where they were easy for yous at when
they wrote the song, and so you it resonates with you,
and it's just a good way of knowing that you're
not alone right in that moment. So but yeah, man,
I just really loved this song. I thought it was fun.
It's like, hey, let's throw this out there this week
and get some ears and eyes on it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, that's cool. I like it. I was like, oh cool,
I like added it to my library. I was like,
I gotta I haven't listened Hives in a while. Any
Bitty Vicious? Yeah great, great, that's an album we need
to do. It'd be fun to do. Yeah, good one.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean tick tick booms this day is still just
a classic.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah all right, man, So it's that time. It is
that time. And with that it's another episode of Adventures
in Vinyl, and that means another round of stumping. But
baron on stuff to bear and I pick a random
song from a random genre. Give Adam a few clues
with all his collective knowledge of music, attempts to guess
the artist, album and song title. This week, we continue
(05:11):
our tribute to Val Kilmer with this song that was
featured on a movie that Val Kilmer was in. Okay,
because if I give it up, all right. But here's
the thing. If you get this one without any further clues,
you get a prize. Okay, all right? Are you ready?
All right? Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Artist album, oh shoot, come on man?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And movie that it was from this I'm gonna give
you plenty of time. This was all over the radio, man,
Yes it was. And you actually you shouldn't know what
movie this is in. It did star Val Kilmer? Remember
it's a tribute to Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It was in the Batman movie, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You are correct? Can you remember telling me which Batman movie?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I mean, it was not Batman Forever Batman. It was
Batman Forever Forever, the one with him and Clooney. I always
get the movie title.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Mixed. Yeah, Clooney was Batman and Robin.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, Batman and Robin. That's right, Yeah, yeah, Chris o'donald's
all right. You know the artist O my god, yes,
and I don't remember the name.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
They've played the spear. I know that in Vegas the
guitarist is known for multiple effects.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
This is okay, and yes it's you two.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I remember that, Yes, this is you two and shoot.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Name of the song give me a minute, hold me,
kiss me, kill me, throw me, kill me, yeah, something
like me thrill me.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I remember that, yes me kill me?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
YouTube about the Batman Forever Richal that chorus? Yeah you did?
You know it was interesting you mentioned Val Kilmer like
during his documentary right, uh, he mentioned that he was
so psyched to be Bruce Rayne Wayne and portray this character.
And it was like, no, we just need you go
stand in the suit. Yeah, and it was like and
(07:28):
then Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey, I guess I
got most of the you know, which is funny.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You've heard the stories about Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey,
how they hate each other, or how Tommy Lee Jones
hated Jim Carrey because he was so unprofessional. He was like,
I cannot abide your level of buffoonery or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I cannot level.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It just seems like Tommy Lee Jones has always been
a little bit of a stiff.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah. Well, you know he kind of plays that. He
does play the stiff. Well, this is not my favorite
YouTube song. You two song by any means. I actually
hate the song, like I can't stand all right, and
I you know, because I was so pissed about just
the whole I just I think it's a stupid song. Yeah,
you know, but I thought it was good for Stump
(08:11):
to baron.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I thought you Too Pop was good. Yeah, Acting Baby
was good. Joshua Joshua Tree was good. But once they
got like past pop, I just kind of lost interest,
if I'm being Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, it was kind of kind of during that. But anyway,
guess what, since you got most of it right, I
gotta take us to Blink one eighty.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Two, yeah, buddy.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And uh some Hilton points for the room next door,
so we don't have to worry about parting day week.
So that's what you get. Good, good cheap lawn seats
to Blink one eighty two, Yeah, brother, and Alkaline Trios,
which Happy Birthday.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm super excited about that because Alkaline Trio. Man, that's
a band I've wanted to see live. Yeah, seen Blink
before and it's a great show. No, I'm coms back
with him now. Yeah, I saw him when they had
Alkaline Trio's Matt Skiba, right tar.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And I remember I just mentioned it. I did like
a little check in on the v log that I
saw on the published at all. Hopefully I would do
that tomorrow and start editing video. I mentioned like, hey,
I'm doing this, but we said if they came close by,
we would go, and I was like, oh, we have
to go, and luckily I was able to find the
pre cell code. But like the seats are stupid, dude,
(09:22):
like the you know, like who Fighter seats like four
hundred bones dang man, Like I just yeah, like it
was all package, very premium. I don't know if like
the general fan the lot, like we're gonna have to
get really early for the lawn seats. I want to
videotape a kind of show, like because I think people
(09:43):
need to understand like when you go to these venues
and you're getting concert tickets and things like that like
it's expensive, Like I don't know how you go see.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So I know there's a lot of artists that have
pushed back on a lot of the ticket enders for
the prices that they charge.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, it's just kind of crazy because it is. Man,
it's getting ridiculous. And I think as you know, things
in our culture changed these days, in our economic climate,
it's only gonna get worse. Yeah, that it'll be interesting
to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well and like there is the world well and like
I when there's certain things like ac DC, like Darren
and I kind of both decided, hey and we got
to go to these like all like trip. It's just
been a thing that we kind of started doing and
it was like, Okay, it's gonna be expensive, but you know,
we saw the stones, we saw eagles like kind of that,
you know, and then the Oasis stuff with my wife
and I. They tickets weren't that bad, you know, I
(10:28):
mean based on what we're receiving the location, sure, you know,
it wasn't bad. But man, these were just astronomical, you know,
just something to I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It sounds like something that Bruce Springsteen would have sung about.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
On I Know on Born in the USA, which covering
Boom Yeah. Born in the USA is the seventh studio
album by New Jersey's own Bruce Springsteen. The album was
released on June fourth, nineteen eighty four, consists of twelve
tracks on two sides and clocks in for a total
linked of forty six minutes and forty one seconds and
produce seven singles. Atum The third single off the album,
(11:02):
in the Background, is of course, the title track. It
was released as a single on October thirtieth of nineteen
eighty four. It was actually recorded back in nineteen eighty
two on the seventh inch vinyl from Columbia consisted the
B side, shut Out the Light.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know that was a record number of singles at
the time off an album. Yeah, there had never been
seven singles off a single album. They've never been, no,
not until this album, and I think it held that
record for a while.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I think that has now been broken.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't know which album did it, but Man, and
they're bangers too, Yeah, they really are.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So a little bit about Bruce Springsteen and the EA
Street Band. They formed in nineteen seventy two. They released
six albums between nineteen seventy three and nineteen eighty two
struggled to find success at first, but they were a
favorite of critics. Didn't necessarily translate into commercial success, especially
after the first two albums, But nineteen seventy five Is
Born to Run was the band's breakout success, landing them
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number three on the Billboard Top LPs and Tape charts
and selling over seven million copies in the US alone.
So the band would later release Darkness on the Edge
of Town in nineteen seventy eight, The River in nineteen eighty,
Nebraska album, Yeah That's another good Nebraska. It's another album
Nebraska in nineteen eighty two, and then the eponymous album
that we are covering today Born in the USA in
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nineteen eighty four. So this one has five out of
five stars on All Music and Rolling Stones Album Guided,
four out of four from the Chicago Tribune, ten out
of ten on Pitchfork. It was a smash worldwide, absolute smash,
seventeen times platinum in the US and New Zealand, thirty
million copies sold worldwide. I mean it went multiple times platinum,
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Diamond gold in a multitude of countries. The album was
number one on the US Billboard two hundred, number one
on the UK album's chart, number one in Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Germany,
New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, number two in France, Italy, Spain,
number six in Japan. Huge, huge album, Huge album.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know what's interesting about Born in the USA? To say,
a lot of people kind of use it, you know,
Reagan and used to back in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's completely misunderstood. Yes, it's a protest song. It is
a protest song. It talks about coming back from the
Vietnam War, after getting kind of forced to go, coming
back to the States, and then all of the problems
that a lot of these theys faced upon.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Their economic devastation at the time. Right, the economy was terrible,
You couldn't find jobs, people hated you when you thought
you were served your baby killer. Yeah, I mean, there
was just a lot of things at that time. And
that's what people, I think don't understand about what I
think Bruce Springsteen brought. They think this is a patriotic song.
I think you could classify as he's the.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Working class man's like advocate in the music world. He
sings about the working class. He relates to your average
American downtrodden hardship. And I think it's funny. I think
just people think this is like this, this is this
patriotic anthem.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Really he's a storyteller. He's a storyteller.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
He's telling a story about, you know, going into your
country and having no appreciation upon your return.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yep. Man, it's instantly recognizable. Though.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You hear that keyboard line and Max Weinberg single Snare hits.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
At the beginning.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It really sets the tone for the album. I mean
again addresses the lives, the real lives of working class Americans.
I mean, can you really get better of an album
opener than this song?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
No? I don't think you can't know, Like when you
when you kick off an album Born in the USA
with the title track like that, and it comes at
you and just punches you right in the face. Yeah,
And it's just this kind of like anthemist type of song.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah right, it's hard to It's again, it's hard to
name a better opening track for an album.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Than Born in the USA. I would agree.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
All right, let's move on to what was the second
single off the album?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So cover Me is the second single off the album.
It was released on July thirty, first in the year
nineteen eighty four. Clocks in it yeah, like yeah, that
was July night. Okay, so it was Yeah, it was single, okay.
Col clocks in at three minutes to twenty six seven seconds. Yeah,
easy for you to say, I know, I know, I'm struggling.
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The B side of the seven inch final was a
single called Jersey Girl Okay Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
All right yeah, number seven on the Billboard Hot one hundred,
number two on the Billboard Mainstream Rock, number eleven on
the Hot Dance and Disco, number ten on cash Boxes
one hundred and certified gold in the US, and that
actually it's one of the less lesser success singles the album,
which really says something when but it's a good song.
But it's a good song.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I actually really like covering again.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's another song about the struggles of working class life
at the time, you know, very common theme on this album.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Well, and I think you know the way the song
comes through. It's very listable because it's a poppy it's
like a pop rocky. The whole album is very has
a lot of different you know, it's got horns, it's
got you know, keyboards, it's got everything right. It's composed
very well, and I think that's what makes the songs catchy.
(15:58):
But then as you start gettingto the lyrics, there's just
a lot of deep lyrics.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's in a minor key, but it's upbeat, which is
also another interesting dynamic on this one. But I think
that that working class relatability is what really drew people
to the album at the time, because, let's face it,
we were coming out of a time where like our
economy was kind of sucking. The working class American felt overlooked.
They're watching jobs go overseas, They're watching factories in their
(16:23):
town shutter, they're watching farmers struggle.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And it was not the.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Eighties, you know, for all the excess that you saw
in like the coasts, the heartland of America really suffered
hard for any industrial any industrial town. You know, you
saw all that go to China, Japan man like, and
this is you know, this is this album really addresses
what came out of that. So this isn't one of
(16:49):
my favorite songs on the album, but I really do
appreciate again those themes of like wanting love to distract
from the hardship of life, which is kind of what
this song thematically and ssconsins. I'm trying to think of
really fun words to use today. All right, man, So
let's move on to the next chance you get to
span the vocabulary.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, like in Darlington County. I hear they explore or
expand their vocabulary down in Darlington County, which is the.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Third track off South Carolina. What they may need they
need expanded expanded vocabulary. Sorry, we're from Arkansas. We have
no room to talk.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We can relate anyway. Darlington County is the third track
off the album The Clocks in a four minutes and
forty eight seconds, originally written during the sessions for Darkness
on the Edge of Town in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, so this one is fun with the cow bell
and the dirty lead line to start the song.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, you know a little more cow bell.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It's just a fun song about moving away from New
York and looking for work in Darlington County, South Carolina. Yeah,
I mean telling tall tales about your past to get girls. Well,
it's a good trouble. Yeah, And it's not a bad song.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's crazy to listen. Relatable. I think that's a word
you're gonna hear me say a lot in this podcast.
It's relatable. Yeah, I think most all of these songs
just about anybody can relate to, right, And I think
that's where Springsteen really struck gold, writing relatable songs for
people that aren't talking about just like what's happening on
(18:13):
the coasts necessarily, but like, no, like this is what
most of you Americans out there experiencing. Are this you
can relate to this because you've had something similar happen
in your life, but in the context of a really fun,
upbeat song. Yeah yeah, well yeah, and it just shows
he's such a good storyteller, excellent storyteller, great song.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Right, you know. I think that's what I like. The
whole album is just like.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
If you listen to his early stuff, it was very wordy. Yeah,
very wordy, like he'd really even like Born to Run, Like,
listen to that song. It's very wordy. And Springsteen himself said, like,
I think my word like my songs had more words
in them than most albums had across the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, and he was right.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I mean, he was very wordy with his songs, but
by this album he's kind of found that balance and
This is a song I think is a really good
example of that, Like, yeah, he tells a story, but
he doesn't tell it with too many words.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Well, and maybe the next song, Working on the Highway,
is that job that he got in Darlington County, I
don't know. Originally recorded in nineteen eighty two, Working on
the Highway is the fourth track on side one of
the album and clocks in at three minutes and eleven seconds.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I love the rockabilly yeah, kind of the call and
response between the vocals and the guitar and keyboard lines.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Man, it's you know, it's basically about meeting a young girl,
falling in love, whisking her away to Florida before being arrested,
taking a juvenile down south. Yeah, and then you get
end up on the highway and the chain gang.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Right, which is and what I like about this song
is like, if you were growing up in a small town,
you knew a guy that he was like a nineteen twenty.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Year old he liked the younger chase that was.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Like just a normal dude. He was just a little
bit older, and he always had that seventeen year old girlfriend.
Oh that's so man, right, And it's like not wrong,
it's just well, and here's his parent parents knew like
they were getting married. You always knew me. He was
always that guy. He was the working dude. He either
was like a welder or something. But he just happened
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to have that girlfriend in high school, right. I knew
several guys like yeah. And it was in this when
I was listening to the song take Back. I actually
had to listen to it like three or four times
were the lyrics because I was like that was like
very prominent where like, you know, then someone gets upset
or there's a fight and they're just trying to like
Romeo and Juliet it right where there was nothing really
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wrong happening each other.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You know, it was just it's appropriate age range. Yeah,
it was slightly below adulthood the other slightly.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Oh yeah, and they're kind of in that age, which
is just there were so many weird laws like that.
But like I knew several associates that, like I knew
of people who went to gym.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
They were in jail wow.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
For stuff like that. And I was always and that's
one thing like I told my son, I was like, dude,
make sure that girl as your same age yeah, make
sure that or at least she's over eight Yes, make
sure she's over eighteen. Yeah. And if she won't show
you a license, don't date her. Yeah, right, especially when
you're in that age of like, right when you are
nineteen eighteen nineteen, you know, you're.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Just you're all too easy. It's all into the trap.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Man. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, I
did it. I did it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I admittedly did it. Yeah, but man, it's just a
fun song. I don't ever skip this one. No, it's
a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
All right, let's move on to the next one. Why
did I skip? Oh? You do skip this one? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh, so this is the tale of a lost spouse
down bound train. Okay, name the song basic. Yeah, it's
basically the tale of a lost spouse. It's kind of
the saddest song on the album. I mean, don't get
me wrong, it's a good one. It's just not my favorite.
I feel like this is just a good song on
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an album full of otherwise great ones. Yeah, but also
just didn't resonate as much with this song in general.
I say i'd skip it contextually, i'd skip it. I'm
not saying it's a bad song. I'm not saying that, like, oh,
skip this song, I hate this song. No, it's more
just I'd rather get to the ones I like more.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, but would you if you had it on the
background on vinyl You're like, eah, what fine? Yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I don't need to grab the needle and pop
it forward a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah. I mean that's kind of like, you know, like
even a CD. I probably wouldn't skip it, right if
I was just putting on the album to let it go, No,
I wouldn't. Yeah, I mean it seemed oh, okay, it's fine. Yeah,
it's okay. I would agree. I didn't really like. I
was like, this was a weaker track. Yeah, I think
on the song on the album, yeah, I would agree
with that. But now onto one, that is quite the opposite. Oh.
Wrapping up Side one off the album and the fourth
(22:40):
single is I'm on Fire. I'm on Fire was released
on February sixth, nineteen eighty five. It clocks in at
two minutes and thirty six seconds. It has a really
cool B side to the single, and it was the
track Johnny Bye Bye, which featured Chuck Berry, which is
about I'm going to jail, like gotcha? That type of
stuff that was really cool. Let's see. I'm on Fire
(23:03):
was Springsteen's first narrative music video.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah yeah, a great music video. Yeah, Minky. Springsteen's basically
a mechanic working on a car for your beautiful woman
who suggests that he can return the car to her
house and perhaps engage in some shenanigans and some chicanery
while he's there. So I love the simple trap beat,
the palm muted picked guitar, gentle synth underpinning the song.
Apparently this one came out of a jam session with
(23:27):
with Roy Bitten, Max Weinberg, and Springsteen. And that's why
that's all you hear is those three guys on this track.
Very relatable song about longing for a woman, like one
song long.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah one best male video for UH on nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's a fantastic video, man. I mean I remember hearing
this when I was just a young kid. Yeah, but
the song stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh I. So the first exposure I had to this
album was cassette, Like I had a walkman, because I
was he was eighty four, so I was seven eight
in that range. I was like six, so I had
you know, I had you know, he was prominent. MTV
was kind of on in the house. We could watch it,
you know, certain hours of the day, uh huh, you know,
(24:12):
especially summers, MTV was on. It was music videos, so
that's just what was on during the day. So a
lot of your music exposure around that time was associated
with it. And then just getting you know, I liked
it was cool to get this cassette tape. I think
I got it for my birthday or something.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
This is my favorite song on the album. It's mine too, Yeah,
I mean just again, it's sparse, but it's beautiful, and
it was a huge success too, Man number five on
UK Singles, number six on the Billboard Hot one hundred,
number six on Adult Contemporary, number eight on the cash
Box Hot one hundred. It was two times platinum in
the US and three million copies were sold worldwide, So
I mean, yeah, obviously other people agree with us as well. Yeah,
(24:48):
I love it man, It's just it's an amazing song.
So on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Kicking too Yeah is the track No Surrender, which clocks
in at four minutes flat. The track was only included
on the album at the insistence of Steven van Zendt,
as it's the pretty much the prominent deep cut I
think on the album. Yeah, I would say that, I'd
agree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I love the intro with the drums and the slide
down on the piano, great harmonizing vocals right here, you know,
with the rest of the band coming in, another very
relatable song about wanting to be young again with your
friends and take on the world.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Man, it's a great song to me, like a great
way to start off side too.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
It actually charted on the Mainstream Rock chart up to
like number twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
If you get on Wikipedia most of the time, you're
gonna find like a link to each of the singles
on the album. If you get on Born in the
USA and pull up the track listing, there's a link
to every single song on the album.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I mean that tells you just something about the impact
of each individual track on this album.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah. I think when you look at one of those
albums that relates to our country, right, it's kind of
intertwined with our culture in a lot of ways, right,
And I think that's what they is. Yeah, that and
that's kind of you know what America's kind of going through,
the same kind of it's reciprocal. Right. We tend to
repeat the same bad habits as a country over and over,
(26:10):
and we're kind of in that same process, right, And
I think it's it's very relatable, you know, decades later.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yes, yeah, I mean I think just you said relatable.
I mean the song's lyrics take listeners back to their
own pasts and kind of a wish wistful fashion. I
think all of us could, you know, look back at
our lives and kind of think, Man, what if I'd
done that a little differently? Oh yeah, all the time, Like,
oh man, I remember that girl I dated and the
way I felt like you just you you think back
on those times, and you know it evokes emotion. Yeah,
(26:41):
and that's kind of what this song addresses. Yeah, you
know those emotions you feel when you think back on
your past and reflect on it. So yeah, all right,
man on to the next one, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The second track on side too, and the eighth track overall,
and one of the last songs to be recorded for
the album, Bobby Jean. Bobby Jean clocks in at three
minutes and forty six about forty six albums forty six seconds,
not album. It clocks in a three minutes and forty
six seconds. The album just keeps rocking, and I like
the pop rock type of trucks, the accented rhythm. It's
(27:12):
got that kind of dance groove, and you kind of
see that, you know, throughout the whole album.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, this is the tale of a close friend who
just packs up and leaves, you know, and like you
reminisce on the friendship and kind of have you know,
the regret of not being able to say for a
well kind of along with the hope that maybe you'll
see her again. Yeah. Again relatable. I think we've been
in that situation before, where like somebody that was in
our life just kind of disappears and you know, they
(27:39):
didn't die or anything, but you're also kind of hoping, like, man,
I hope, I hope I get to run into them.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah. Well, like I dated a girl right that Fayetteville
and we kind of like we hit it off really good,
and then we kind of said it's not working and
then she like abrupt all of a sudden called me.
It's like, hey, I'm leaving. I just want to spend
a little bit more time. We spent like a night
just talking and everything, and you know, it was kind
of when I listened to the song, I was like, hey,
(28:03):
that really reminded me of her. And you know, the
one thing we talked about just kind of that night
was like why didn't we And we both kind of
agreed where we should have probably tried harder because there
was that long and it was too late, right, And
you know, it's just part of life. You have that.
And what's great is I'm with my wife now and
she's my ride or die, So that's just playing. But
you know, it's just when you have an album that
(28:26):
evokes those emotions and feelings and emotions meaning like hey,
I remember something, Oh I know how I felt during
that time, Right, that's what listening to this several times,
like I did it on a pipefest, hike, I did
it in the gym, did it work in the drive?
It's good, had all cases.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
So yeah, great song man. Yeah all right, So let's
move on to another. One of the singles.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
All Right, released on August seventeenth, nineteen eighty five, is
the sixth single from the album. I'm Going Down clocks
in at three minut that's in twenty nine seconds. The
B side to this Sevedence single is Jane, don't you
Lose Heart?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think this is the only one of the singles
not the chart or not not to sorry reach a
sales certification.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, how dare it?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I mean honestly, I mean, come on, it was still
number nine on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You can't do better.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
So, I mean, man, just a great rock song, simple
twangy rift to start off, with a fun lead line
coming in shortly after that.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Lyrically, it's about a relationship and it's downward decline. I'm
going down kind of being the nature of like the
way things are going right. Yeah, not to be confused
another going down, which would be responded by Michael Scott
and if that's what she said, so she said simple
fore chord tune, a lot of great dynamics to it, though,
(29:51):
I mean he does a lot of little things to
keep it from getting redundant, which it could when you
hear the same four chord progression throughout the song could
get old. But again he does enough things to mix
it up. You got a great sax solo in there
in that first half. It's just a fun song, Yeah
it is.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
It's good. Yeah, Yeah, nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
If they were gonna cut a single from the album,
I would say would probably be this song. But that
makes it no less a really strong fun song. Yeah,
I mean it's a good catchy song. Yeah, you know,
there's nothing really wrong with it, all right, Man, onto
another one of those iconic songs.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I know this needs no introduction. It's the tenth track
off the album. In this single, we're talking about Glory Dais,
which clocks in at four minutes at fifteen seconds stand on.
It was the B side of the Signal and it
was a late hit for a nineteen eighties country single
Mel McDaniel Okay, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
This one's number seventeen on UK Singles, number five on
the Billboard Hot one hundred, number three, and mainstream Rock
number nine on the cash Box one hundred, platinum in
the US As a single, YEP, one point three million
copies sold worldwide. So another instant classic. Man, as soon
as you hear that rhythm guitar line, you know exactly
what you're listening to. Yeah, no mistaken it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
More relatable lyrics about reliving those old glory days in
your past, you know, running into people from your past
and talking.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
About like those glory Days.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean, what can I say? This is one of
those songs will probably last forever. But we talk about
glory days all the time. We talk about glory days constantly, man, instantly.
People that don't like know our glory days probably could
sing a hear in it. But I mean, any one
of us could put ourselves in the shoes of the
characters in the song and kind of relate to that
feeling of what if?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What if?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So, man, just a classic of a song. Again, I
think it'll live forever.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh, I agree, No, kind of like this one, Yes,
which is the next to last track on side to
the album, and it was the first single off the
album that was released on May ninth, nineteen eighty four.
Written overnight, Dancing in the Dark clocks in at four
minutes in one second. The track had fifty eight mixes
at them Wow. It was released on a twelve inch single.
(31:53):
It was the highest selling twelve inch single in the
US that year.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, it's sold seven million copies worldwide. Yes, I mean
it was number two on my Hot one hundred, number
one on the UK Singles Chart, number one on Mainstream Rock,
number seven on the Billboard Dance and Disco number one
on the cash Box one hundred quadruple platinum in the
US as a single. I mean another instant classic if
if if I'm on Fire was favorite one A this
(32:21):
is one beat?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Mean another song that when you hear that synth line,
you know exactly what you're hearing.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I get jazzed. Oh dude, when I hear I'm
on Fire, and like Glory Days, I've just heard it
so many times. Yeah, But like you know, my two
favorite tracks.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
On the album are I'm on Fire and Again. You
can relate to it lyrically. It's musically very simple, very catchy.
It's about feeling like you're just stuck in adult routine
in life, kind of unsatisfied with yourself and your situation
and wishing that you could find purpose.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And you know who Bruce Springsteen was singing to and
dancing with on the stage during the music video. Maybe
his Oh it was a Courtney Yes, or none other
than the Friends megastar and scream star Courtney Cox.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
On Ace for sure repet Detectives. Yes, it was a
great song. Go watch that music video if you want
to catch the Colney Cox.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But it's like they're doing that like jazzy side the
step White People dance.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It's like the early version of the Carlton.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, I would say it was. I would say the
Carlton hold on, hold on the Carlton is a fine
maneuver that, when executed perfectly, can stop the world in time.
Really where Courtney Cox was just kind of dancing sign
And so that's why I said it's an early version.
Don't correct, don't don't even classified as anything close to
the Carlton. Fine, all right, let's just get that straight. Okay,
(33:46):
the Carlton when it don'e effectively could stop.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Would you like me to help come pull your underwear
out of your crack?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Don't knock, knock the Carlton. Who is the actor that
played Carlton on Fresh Prince?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh dude, what's that guy's name?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Because he's been on everything even before with the Stars,
But he was on Carlton some show growing up that
I know we both watched where he got his start.
And that's why I started watching Fresh Prince was because
he was on some other you know, one of those
teen bopper afternoon comedies with an R.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I remember that, Like, I.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Just know him as Carlton and now he hosts funny
videos on ABC.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah. Okay, I've got to figure this out because it's
gonna drive me.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
But he was Carlton Banks, right, Carlton Banks was the Yeah,
it was the character oh Alfonso Riverro. Yeah so what,
But there was some other kind of show he was on.
I don't remember, but yeah, the Carlton was just awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Let's see if Wikipedia knows. Let get out my trusty
cellular telephone that tells me everything that I need to know.
I don't really see it right off the bat. I
don't want to dive super deep into it. So well, anyway, anyways,
let's move on to the last track on the album,
all Right.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Wrap it up. The album is the seventh and final
single that was released on Open twenty fourth, nineteen eighty five. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So this one was number one on the Billboard Adult
Contemporary Tracks, number one on the I'm Sorry, number six
on the Billboard Hot one hundred, number six on the
Billboard Album Rock Tracks, platinum in the United States, one
point three million copies sold worldwide. I mean, just a
really great song about what the title suggests, your hometown
and kind of the innocence of childhood there, the cultural
(35:22):
shifts yep, the commercial decline and then ultimately saying goodbye
to it when you're kind of grown and ye outgrown
that place. Yeah, that this I can relate to that. Man,
I had to do that whenever I left Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah. I did the same thing with Dumas. You know
the B side we featured actually the B side on
the single on our Christmas special. So the B side
of the single was Santa Claus Coming to Town, which, yeah,
but this one, Like, I kind of didn't expect for
this song to hit me in the fields, but I
think as I kind of look back where I am
in life, Like, I was like, wow, that's like Dumas. Yeah,
(36:02):
And I was like wow, that was I didn't expect,
like to get an emotional response on the song, and
I was like, Wow, this album. I related to this
album a little bit deeper than I thought I wouldn't. Yeah,
especially when you listen to it. Yeah, this one, this
album as a whole.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
In this song, I would say, especially, Yeah, you know,
I have some I've kind of a I have mixed
emotions about where I lived for so many years there
in Northwest Arkansas. I don't even think about California because
I was still just such a young kid. But a
lot of the best and worst things in my life
happened in Salem Springs, Arkansas. Yeah, and I was just
actually back there a couple of weeks ago. I don't
(36:39):
go there often, I really don't. I think I've only
been there a handful of times in the past eight years.
But you know, it really just got me to thinking about, like, man,
like the way it's changed. Oh yeah, some of the
people that I ran into that are still there. That
I went to high school with nothing against that, but
you know, it was just like, man, kind of you know,
it just like you said, it hits you in the
(36:59):
feels a little bit when you think about what you
might have gone through in that town, or if you
had stayed or yeah, like the what ifs, the regrets,
the thank goodness I didn't stay here because of X
y Z, right, all those things kind of come flowing
into your mind right.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Well when you look at kind of like past decisions
that you make, and you know, I think that's kind
of what made a lot of this album really powerful
for me. And I was like, if I feel this way, I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Sure it's very wistful in nature, right, it gets you
thinking back on the past, and because it is it's
all about reflection. This album is a lot of reflection
and we all can relate to that, right, So I
really think again thematically, it was that that really drove
this album into the stratosphere.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
He wrote relatable music for people that needed relatable music,
and the album just exploded. So, man, when you have
seven singles on the album, with most of them reaching
gold platinum, multi platinum status, you sell seventeen million copies
of the album, you know that you put out something
that's going to stand the test of time.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, and I think, you know, I I was trying
to figure out how to rate it, right, and.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I should say seventeen million copies just in the United States.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah. So when I when I look at all this,
there's kind of only one number I can come up with,
you know, and that's a ten.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
You gave it a ten.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, and I compared to Loveless, Like I kind of
was like, why did I give Loveless a ten? Based
on the impact it had the genre? And you know,
it wasn't that successful. This is so this is a
ten in a different way.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Correct, Like Loveless was, they were breaking new ground. They
were creating an entirely new loves innovative. It was the innovation,
but it was also just the quality of the soundscapes
of the writing, right. There was so much that went
into it. Sonically, this album is not that.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
No, it's twelve stories that relate to many individuals.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Well then really even like that, you can look at
them in sequence, right, and they create a story.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Correct, each song.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Is a story, but they also there's a general broader
narrative that the twelve songs encompass. And if you think
about even the first song right coming back from War,
and then the last song leaving your leaving your hometown right,
you know for other pastures with now with kids in tow.
I mean again, there's a whole narrative that kind of
feels completed in that last song. So yeah, I would
(39:33):
agree with you a ten. I mean maybe there's you know,
Downtown Train didn't resonate with me as much.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, But honestly, and we're when you're trying to pick
some like little Bitty, you know, and I don't want
to take away from the album because even those songs
that were like eh, you know, it's a good song,
but it's not as good as these songs. They're not bad, know,
they're not bad at all. You know sometimes you kind
of need a little bit of that in the album.
Yeah right, And and I was like, okay, I had
(40:00):
the cassette, I never had the CD. I'm buying it
like I'm buying like record store day this Saturday, when
I go wait in front of Coastal for an hour
to get that post below up on a tribute album. Yeah,
that's what I do on my birthday. I go sit
in front of a record store to buy one album.
But I'm gonna pick up Born in the USA.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah right, because I'm like that I should have this
in my colle fit to ten, You've got to have it.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, And I'm gonna look for Loveloss. There's a couple
of other things, but when you're it's gonna be hard
to find.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Best of luck, brother, you never know, Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I don't know ar CD Music Exchange. May hat, we'll see,
we'll see. If I find it, I'm gonna like hold
it up as a trophy and post on it Instadra.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
But anyways, man, it was great covering that album. Yeah,
Early and Joy, what do we have next week? I
don't think we've decided on something for now.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
All right, Well we'll decide on something for next week.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, we've got to figure something out.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah. Well hey, and uh with that we uh, just
like that would close another episode of Adventures in Vinyl.
If you like the music featured on this episode, please
check out.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
The episode's web page. Huh, I'm just giving you a craft.
What I said, his name is Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Uh, why I'm getting to that point. Okay, remember like
if you look, we feature other artists. We do. Oh,
I started putting links in the episode web page that publishes.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I just thought you were having a moment where you
were forgetting who we are.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
No, no, and that's I tend to kind of space
out from time to time. But no, this was actually
reading the thing. So now we're gonna start over, okay,
and you're gonna let me do my steam and shut up.
All right, thank you? And just like that, and just
like that, we close another episode of Adventures and Vital Hey,
if you like the music that we featured on this episode,
(41:38):
it's on links to the Apple Music Store where you
can find all this stuff. It's gonna be on the
episode web page. If you want more information on Bruce Springsteen.
I don't have to give you the website, but because
we do, it's www dot Bruce Springsteen dot net. So
that seventy five year old guy is still touring and
doing stuff today. If you've got a chance to ever
see him live, highly recommend it. I get pretty good.
(41:59):
I got to see him. I got to see him
during the dawn for dust to down that album just Him,
phenomenal show. I saw that in Grand Prairie, Texas. It
was nice. It's amazing yea, So yeah, I highly recommend that.
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(42:19):
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in Vinyl. H m hmmmmm. It's tough for me to
(43:11):
go outside and fart. You know, gas happens, Yeah, it does.