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December 7, 2024 39 mins
On this episode of Adventures in Vinyl, Adam and I discuss this 2nd studio album named for a color in the year 1994.  That band is Stone Temple Pilots and the album is Purple.


Song of The Week!
Pennyroyal Tea - Nirvana, In Utero


Stump The Barron!
I'm The One - Descendants - Everything Sucks
Searching for Tomorrow - Coheed & Cambria - The Father of Make Believe


Stone Temple Pilots - Purple
Genre:  Alternative Rock
Release Date:  June 7, 1994
Studio(s):  Record Plant, Paisley Park, Harptone, Southern Tracks
Producer(s):  Brandon O’Brien
Label:  AtlanticLength: 46:59
Number of Tracks:  11

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this episode of Adventures in Vinyl, Adam and I
discussed the second studio album named for a color in
the year nineteen ninety four. That band is Stone Temple
Pilots and the album is purple. So what was the

(00:37):
first album named for a color? The blue?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Actually, that could be correct, ninety three Actually might be right,
Weezer Blue Blue Album.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Of course, wouldn't name the blue album. We just called
it the blue album. We just call every called it
the blue album album. I mean that was That's the
only one that comes to mind. Is actual fact?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Mmm?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Probably not? Probably not. I think it's some assumption. It's
an assumption based on thematic trends in the music industry.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Based on generally accepted principles of album naming by fans.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Correct, there we go, correct, Here's to that, here's to that.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
How you doing, buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, I came to the revelation that I'm in my
late forties now and I've been ignoring it and I'm
super focused on my health and I take so many
damn supplements every day. Like I was looking this way, Yeah,
I was like, okay, official, okay, vitamin D okay, this
supplement okay, this digestive enzyme, this probiotic this, there's so

(01:40):
many things that like I'm taking right now.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm down to a multi vitamin and something for my joints,
and then I just try to eat healthy otherwise, Oh yeah,
exercise and do all the things.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
And of course cold plunge. You a cold plunge, Yeah, yeah,
well that's you know, we've got a at the gym,
we have a cold plunge, and we have a I
R sauna. Yeah, and I'm thinking about doing just for
that gym thing that we're kind of getting into. I
was like, oh, well, maybe I do some type of
like thing around that where I look at the plus
and minus effects of of that, because I when you're

(02:13):
looking at like longevity and things like that and just
as you're getting old, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I like doctor Peter Attia is a guy who he's
big on longevity. That's his whole science is longevity, his
whole field of study. And he talks about how you
get in the sauna. It's been like twenty minutes in
the sauna and then get in a cold plunge for
three to five minutes and then you get out, let
your body naturally warm up and it's supposed to just
all the heat and cold shock proteins and yeah, endorphin rush,

(02:39):
and it's like just helps your day go a lot better.
Which I've been using the plunge pretty regularly, but we
don't have a saun at the gym, which I hope
to change pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, I think it's the same cold plunge service. I
think we're both gyms are using the same cold plunge service.
And then that's where we got our sauna.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, we've got a guy out a little rock who Yeah,
that guy plunge John huff name.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Dude, Man. I think that's the guy because he just
comes in service and knows all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's pretty good. But the one thing, like, I know
you and I are both coffee drinkers, right and I
make them right now. I pretty can make a pretty
mean latte at home. Your new fangled machine, my new
fangled cheap Amazon espresso machine that works wonders by the way,
probably the best one hundred and fifty dollars I've ever spent.

(03:20):
But I do like a lot of tea. I've been
drinking a lot of tea. Are you a tea guy?
I'm not a tea. Guy, Man, you're missing out. I
think the one thing getting older like a hot cup
of tea at night. The closest thing I do to
tea is we make kombucha. Oh, kobucha. We're those people.
Oh you make kombucha.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, we make kombucha, and so we's black tea as
the base. What is kombucha? Kombucha is black tea that
has been fermented, and then you bottle it and you
add whatever flavor you want to it, and you let
it sit for a couple of days, and then you
crack it open and you drink it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
What's it?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
If you wait more than a couple days to crack
it open, you're gonna have a fountain of foam flying
at you.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
But it's it's fermented tea. Fermented tea. What does that
give you?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's it's first of all, it's fuzzy. It's like soda.
It really like we put grape in it and it
tastes grape soda.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
And it's a lot of probiotics. Oh, a lot of
good for the gut. Oh, just do for the fermentation. Yeah,
kind of like kim chi, kind of like him. It's
a lot like kim Chi sound croud, same kind of thing. Oh, okay, okay,
well that that's kind of so. I was like, Hey,
what do I pick for my song of the week.
And since I was I was doing this, I was
drinking a cup of tea, I was like, oh, I'll
just pick this song as my song of the week. Okay,

(04:23):
see now you've so you've definitely piqued my interest. Now,
but we're going in Havana correct, Okay, Penny Royalty, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I was like, you know, I was like it had
just happened to come on. At the same time, I
was drinking a cup of tea and I was writing notes,
and I was like, Hey, this would be my song
of the week. So it's Penny Royal Tea from n
Havana off vin Utero. While I heard that song. Yeah,
it's the ninth track and third and final off the
third and final album that was released in nineteen ninety three.
There's a good thing about like there's a good the

(04:55):
recording of the in Utero Like Dona O'Brien, it's a podcast,
uh huh. They talked to the producer of the new
Duro album and they talk about all the pranks and
everything they did because they were trying to keep like
kirk oband off Heroin all that other stuff. It was
really really cool. He was deep in it at that point.

(05:16):
Well it had just got clean for that album, and
so they went and recorded this at some snowy studio
in the middle of freaking nowhere and trying to keep
them away from that, away from the Yeah, so they
just sat there and built like caught stuff on fire.
You know what we What else would you do if
you're stuck, Yeah, nowhere nowhere, You're to find yourself building fires. Anyway,
this is Penroyalty has no to do a tea, but

(05:38):
had the word tea and I was like, yeah, there's Cole.
There's the correlation, absolutely no correlation, just random. What about
what's your song in the week?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, So mine's actually off the upcoming Coheat and Cambria
albums coming out on March fourteenth of twenty five. Uh,
this is the first. I think it's one of the
I think it's the first single. It's called Searching for
Tomorrow and I love the song. They have another side,
another song out off the album as well. It's called
Blindside Sonny Easy for You to say Adam, both like

(06:12):
really solid tracks, So I'm excited to hear the album.
But man, like some just amazing bass and guitar work
on this one. Like he's all over the place on
the bass, He's using that whole scale. Yeah, so they
changed bass players. I think it was like one or
two albums ago. And the guy they've gotten now is
like one of those Berkeley School of Music like stupid

(06:35):
talented bass players.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Didn't even play at an electric bass.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Originally, he actually played an upright and whenever he tried
out for him was you know it kind of admitted
into Coheed. He switched over to electric bass, and the
dude is just a monster. But anyways, I really I'm
really digging the song. But yeah, it's coming up on
their album that's coming in March, The Father of Make Believe.
I'm definitely looking for that one. Excited to see when

(06:59):
that one.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, I've never really been able to get in the
Cohated comed though, gotcha. Yeah, I mean I've tried. I've
even have a couple of their albums, but they're just.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's his voice can be kind of an acquired taste,
but musically, man, those guys are just so incredibly tight,
and of course their giant comic book nerds, so everything
that they do like falls into this universe of this
comic book series that the lead singer Claudio Sanchez has written,
and all the music videos are in that lyrically like
it all plays into this story that's that's related in

(07:29):
these comic books. It's almost like the soundtrack to the
comic books. So like they're very much in that world.
They're kind of like a rush, like a modern rush
in a lot of ways, that's what they're kind of seeing,
like that progressive rock kind of the next generation of that.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
So anyways, man weah, okay, I get that. I get that. Anyways,
that's neat. But did you see that thing I sent
you on the band in Luna? I did, yeah, really
see the TikTok where they covered dreams.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So I don't have TikTok okay, so I couldn't look
at the TikTok okay.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's hopefully maybe it's on a short on
YouTube or something like that, and trying to find it
elsewhere to get the sound clip. But in Luna, like
a shoegaze band out of British.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Collect Yeah, I really enjoyed that. I listened to the
first three or four songs and I was I was
enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, I want to include some of that next song
of the week or something. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Absolutely, I think it'd be cool to introduce some people
so that you can do that as a discovery segment
next time.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Right, Yeah, yeah maybe maybe? All right, man, all right,
purple purple, well end. No, it's not. It's another episode
of his interest in vinyl, and that means another round
of Stump the Baron. On Stump the Baron, I pick
a random song from a roundom genre, give that him
a few clues, and with all his semi above average knowledge,

(08:42):
I love that you're denigrating it each time.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Semi above average point, which basically means average.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
At song time. Next time it's going to be below average,
slightly above. It all depends on what I come up with,
what I write at that week. It's like what pops
in my head when I'm on my patio with football's
on the background and I'm doing a prep on an episode.
So it's like what random thought enters my mind? Okay,
all right, let's hear it. Man. Hey, So for this

(09:13):
week on Stump to Baron. We were in the year
nineteen ninety six, and this is the first single off
this punk band from Manhattan Beach, California that was formed
in the year. So these are some o Geezers. They
were formed in the year nineteen seventy seven. I was born.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh jeez, I know, I know, I know, I know,
I know. Because I know this song, I know it
would be perfect. It was perfect. Oh crap, I'm gonna
feel so stupid. Yeah, yeah, I picked a really good one. Shoot,
it's not not the Descendants, it is the Descendants. Descendants,

(10:05):
I mean, I'm the one is the song song I
couldn't tell you the album there's no chance. Well kind
of like I think this song. The album's titled everything
Everything Sucks. That's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
The other of those old school punks, man, the Ones
is stuck around eventually. They just like they don't take
themselves too seriously, except the sex Pistols, they always took
themselves too seriously. Yeah for a band that had one album, Yeah,
I thought that was funny. Anyways, Okay, Descendants, I'm the
one I got. I kind of got two out of three.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was it was just like, hey,
that was because like, wait a minute, I should know this.
It's instantly recognizable. Oh yeah, but it's.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
As soon as it hits that that first line, you're like,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh wait, wait, why is this?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Like I know the song? The song? Wait a minute,
I don't know this, but I remember this from the
radio in high school. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah,
I thought it'd be a good one. Thould be a
good one. All right, man, are you ready to get
into this? It's that time? All right?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
We are looky that purple. Man, what a freaking classic.
First of all, it is I mean, obviously we'll get
into our opinions on it, but there's so many great
tracks on this album.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I know through it, I know. So. Purple is the
second studio album released on June seventh, nineteen ninety four,
by the band Stone Temple Pilots. It ninety four was
a ninety three.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Ninety four ninety four Okay, okay, I think I had
ninety three for some reason, but okay, and.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
That makes sense because uh, Core was ninety two okay, yeah, right,
then they had a lot of turning behind Core, yeah
they did, and then they went into Purple like a
lot of bands. So Brendan O'Brien did this one, right, yep.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, man, that guy's such a genius dude. He has
been on the board for so many great albums. Yeah, honestly,
I think he was. He did in Utero two. Yeah,
that didn't surprise me. I think he did an interview
with Biotto recently, Yeah, which he's not. He didn't do
interviews he was. He isn't that guy, but he sat
down with Rick Piotto. I have that one on my
like watch later list. Yeah, because that guy man so

(11:56):
many great albums that he has been a big part of.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, and so Purple consists of eleven tracks. It's a
total of forty six minutes and fifty nine seconds, which
is kind of that perfect link, you know, we talk
about forty five forty nine minutes being a perfect link
for the album. Yeah, track number one, it's here in
the backgrounds. Meat Plow clocks in at three minutes and
seven seconds. It comes in heavy, which is is great,
but it's not that like, you know, how Core came

(12:21):
in like aggressively heavy. Yeah, this is like less aggressive, sure,
it's still.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like it's still that psychedelic grunge that STP was so good.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
At Yeah, but I think psychedelic grunge is really alternate.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
But it's like it's more like it's not like aggressive,
it's just heavy. Yeah, and it's good man like, it's
very accessible. It's got their signature, big sound right from
the jump. I mean, heavy, chunky guitar, fat bassed tone. Yeah,
it's just a grenor third vocal harmonies. It's a great
track written by the brothers.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean, and again, I can't say enough about Robert
de Leo, not just because he's a great bass player,
but the dude's songwriting ability.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
He wrote pretty much most all.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The hits on this album. Yeah, I'm just genius man.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So this album, Purple was number one on the US
Billboard two hundred charts, number ten on the UK album's charts,
certified six times platinum in the US, and sold over
six and a half million copies worldwide.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
It was number one on the Rock chart Mainstream Rock
chart for two street weeks.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, which is quite an accomplishment when you think about
the time frame which this came out, when they just
had bangers coming out all the time, so many great
bands in like that ninety two ninety three ninety four area.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, this was like a really I think different.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Album for Stuntable Pilots.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, they dove more into the it wasn't as grungy
and more like psychedelic in nature.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I think when we talked about I didn't
think STP was a grunge band. I think they're an
alternative band.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
They're an alternative band, but I think they would even
describe themselves as more like psychedelic rock.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Maybe, yeah to me, Like, I think that these guys
in a lot of ways, like another like a more
modern version of Led Zeppelin in a lot of ways,
just because of the way they introduce it, very varied instrumentation,
They're unafraid to take risks. They had very different influences

(14:21):
than a lot of your standard fair rock. I mean, yeah, man,
just a great song. Great way to open up the album. Yeah,
I agree, I agree, great way to open up. I mean,
so the next track, huge hit.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah. The next track is that Saline. It's the second
single off the album. It clocks in at two minutes
and fifty six seconds.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Number one on the US mainstream rock charts, number two
on the US Alternative Airplay Charts number thirty eight on
US radio, Songs number forty eight, UK singles number twenty
three UK Rock and Metal. I mean, one of the
best songs on the album.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, it is. That's saying a lot, because there's a
lot of great tracks one. I mean, the album debut
number one on the US as soon as it was released.
It's funny that odd sounding intro was actually created by
Robert Delio ran his bass to a wall wah pedal
to get that.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Effect that you're I've always wondered about that. Okay, that's
really cool. I mean I love the build on the
intro into that like really simple but just like instantly
recognizable riff.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, it's just like a hammer on and hammer off. Man. Man,
I think Whyland's lyrics are really good with the with
their album, his vocals were good.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh yeah, I love the doubled vocals on the chorus
in this one. It really gives an extra punch to
you know, Scott Walland's vocals. Not a lot of complexity
to this song. It's actually pretty straightforward musically.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's a really good song.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
But there's little little things peppered throughout that are kind
of the secret sauce, like the jazzy chords in the
bridge before the guitar solo, the vocal harmonization, and the
verse after the solo. I mean, the song is kind
of a constant build until all of a sudden it
just exits on one kind of like jazz ish note. Yeah,
Steven de Leo loves his jazz chords and so does
Robert like he wrote a lot of the songs, but

(16:00):
they were both they came from that more jazz based
influence and they bring that into.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
But I think it's I think it's however, you're classically trained.
But what I see is a lot of these albums
that we're finding the really good the musician background. A
lot of them have formal training, classically trained, and you know,
but their influences even though they're classically trained, the influences

(16:26):
they have based on previous bands genres are definitely an influence.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I've trained Runt one way, but they have their influences
in another act. They just take it on, bring it
all together, and I think I think this album vas Lena,
I think is a good example of that with stone
type of pilot even like just where Wilin just went
with his vocals. The note that he was hitting not standard.
It's not in the melody. It's like he's going above it,

(16:50):
and that's not standard rock stuff. So anyways, man, all right,
let's move on more of this great album.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
All right. So the third track off the album is
called Lounge Fly. It's a little bit long. It clocks
in five minutes in eighteen seconds. The ending guitar solo
of this track is credited to Paul Leary of The
Butthole Surface. Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I love how the drums take center stage the beginning
of this track, and they sound really big through the
whole thing. The guitars ramp up and down at kind
of interesting points. The bass is kind of sparse, vocals
are understated, but the drums are always big, yeah, which
I think is cool. Only during the choruses does the
intensity kind of come up on like the non drum pieces.

(17:36):
But I mean, I love the spacey acoustic breakdown. This
is really cool with the ramping build into the guitar
solo later on in the song.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's a really interesting but fun track. Yeah. Well, and
what I was just in the album in general, I
like this track too. I think it's just it's interesting.
It's not bad, right, I'm like your three tracks in
I'm like, hey, I like like lounge. Fine, it's not bad. Yeah,
Well really grabbed me this. I was remembering this in
nineteen ninety four, just trying to think back because I
was listed through doing the notes and the cover art

(18:08):
of this album I thought was just really interesting. Yes,
for sure. So you got this baby that's riding on
a child riding on what's called a chi.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Lin or what I call it. No, it's a dragon
face horse, That's what I describe.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, right, okay, and then it's got some fairies up
on the upper left. It's just when you mentioned psychedelic grunge, like,
I think that cover art represents really what they're.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Trying to do with their genre of music. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
i'd agree. It's and again instantly recognizable. You see that
cover art, you know exactly what album you're looking Yeah,
and for.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
The you know, the rest of you, that means that, Hey,
that's my one big thing on the album that I
thought was interesting, and we'll probably mention it anymore after
that as I tried to fix things, uh with the
show's playlist, but some songs.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Don't get Okay, technical difficulties, ladies, Yeah, just me being student. Okay,
Well for the next track. I mean this talk about
instantly recognizing.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, it's instantly recognizable.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
If I could, if you can pull it up, and
if I could pull it up and play it, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
We'll just listen to some more lounge Fly. I mean,
lounge Fly is a really good song. People should I
imagine many people skip over this based on the length
of it.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, I mean when you look at where it's stuck
between two Man, it's between Interstate Love Song and Vasilene.
That's a tough spot to be. I mean, but when
we're talking about the fourth song, it's.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Not this one.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's not well, it's not that part of this. It's
not that part of it that's there. I know, all right,
technical difficulties are in the room.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
It's fault. You can blasphe me on Instagram at Todd
David Woard dot com. Please final just at Todd David
Ward Please dumbass, you didn't set the place or don't
leave Todd alone? Oh you can. I don't really check
my Instagram alone.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
He's a sensitive guy clocking in at three minutes and
fourteen seconds is this sensitive fourth track off the album
and third single off the album called Interstate Lug Sow.
Yeah So number one on the US mainstream rock charts,
number two on alternative airplay, number twenty two on pop airplay,
for eighteen on radio songs, number nine on UK Rock
and Metal, and number fifty three on UK Singles.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I mean, this is the definitive, quintessential STP song. Well In,
This Boston Nova style song was one of the considered
one of the best songs of the nineteen eight Yeah,
because it's just a walk down.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
That's really all it is, walk down, step by step,
and yet at the same time, like the really moving bassline.
I love playing this bassline. It's just the jazzy chords
give it like a very different voicing than your standard
just power chords. I mean, the slide guitar intro. I mean, man,

(20:59):
it's probably a tie between Interstate Love Song and we
could we could Garden from my.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Favorite STP song. Yeah, I really like.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
And that's saying a lot, because I could make a
list twenty long of STP songs that I absolutely love.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well, and this is probably my favorite song. It's definitely
my favorite song on the album. Yeah, I mean, hey,
for sure. I also love another one on here as
well that we haven't gotten to yet. But I mean,
it's just great. There's nothing super complex here besides the
fact that Dean de Leo is you know again using
some like different voiced chords. Easiest one of the catch easily. Yeah,

(21:32):
he's for you to say, Adam, one of the catchiest
choruses of the nineties.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I would agree. And I'm glad I'm not the only
one screwing up this podcast. No you're not.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's okay, man, it's Thursday. I didn't sleep well last night,
you know about you. But yeah, I'm I'm kind of
out of it today. The coffee and the sparkling waters
keeping me going. Yep, well, we'll still we'll still remain
by the end of this podcast.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
We'll see. I'm glad that you're joining in on the
fun because this fifth track called Still Remains clock say,
at three minutes and thirty three seconds.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think the worst thing about this song is that
it has to follow Interstate Love Song.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, because I think anything that the track that you
know that is right after Interstate Love Song, like it's
always gonna be disappointed and you're gonna want to skip
it because it's not as good as the one before.
But it's not a bad track if you just listen
to it independently. I love bassline. Yeah, it's good. It's
a good song.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Great guitar work Eric Kratz is drumming in this is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's like there's a lot of deep cuts on the ALM. Yeah,
I would absolutely say that.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Robert de Leo again, man, just a freaking genius on
both his instrument and his songwriting. There's another one written
by him. If you haven't gotten a chance to listen
to his interview with Rick Byatto, go check that out.
It's a really interesting view into like what gave him
the inspiration for his songs, both musically and thematically.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
But yeah, this is a great song man, still one.
The lyrics are just awesome. Yeah, Like, as you were
kind of giving your thoughts, I was just this a
little bit intently to the lyrics and I was like, wow,
just powerful lyrics. All right, man, Interesting how they could
come up with that just with the Yeah, with the
way the song was written. Yeah, all right. Six track

(23:18):
off the album's pretty Penny and uh I.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Get Dancing Days their cover of Dancing Days. I get
that when I hear this song.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, because it's a similar type of tone, well, yes,
and similar kind of chords, similar type of chords. Yeah yeah,
And it clocks in at three minutes and forty two.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
So it's not a bad song, I'll admit, it's just
it's not my style.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
No, it's kind of like, you know, you got those
songs in the album, and a lot of albums that
are just like I need four minutes. Hey, let's put this.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I could see this like playing if I really wanted
to get like superstoned. This would be kind of an
interesting one to have going on in the background if
you're just like high as a kite.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
But I don't really do that, so it's yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I don't know, man. Anyways, moving on.
I'm sure you could go down the local dispensar area
and hand out a flyer and say, hey, have you
listened to Pretty Penny, you know, while you've been medicating.
Oh my gosh, that would be that would be an
interesting random servey.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, it would be a very interesting random survey, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Moving on, Silver Superman, Silver Gun, Silver Gun Superman, not
Silver Superman, which I think is that dude that carries
the hammer, He's the Silver Superman. If I remember my
comic lore steal, then Shack play that dude in a movie.
Oh I have no idea. Oh wait, no, I think
I know what you're doing. America. Superman died. Yeah, Superman died.
They this whole thing back in I don't know, the

(24:47):
nineties where Superman died and all these other Superman came
and they were all fakes, and this guy was like
a construction guy who made a metal suit and he
was Silver Superman. That silver gun. In SUPERMANO, which is
a semi track that five minutes and sixteen seconds, it's
kept the aggressive STP opening.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
So the guitar work reminds me of Down from Number
four Yeah, their fourth album. I guess just that heavy
but active guitar riff. Anyways, I like the dynamic of
the heavy riffy versus and the anthemic choruses, which this
one certainly has. I'm trying to figure out the effect
that Dean is using in the guitar solo on this song.

(25:30):
It's like it almost sounds like a wah pedal kind
of half open, maybe run through a megaphone or something.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I mean, we're not there.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yet obviously, but man, just a great deep cut style song,
kind of weird ending, maybe modulation, maybe maybe you might
listen to it at some point. It's just interesting. I'm
trying to figure out what effects he's using there. But yeah, man,
all right, so let's get to the next one, because
this is definitely what I want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Okay. You know it's like every single single off this.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Our technology working against you today, did not copy over,
I gotcha. And I have that issue sometimes with iTunes
where it'll either it'll either bring them in twice or
it won't bring them.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
In because if you have I think when you're dealing
with Apple Music and their cloud stuff, you get you
kind of get double tracks. Because what I've found is
a lot of what's on Apple Music is their remasters
and things like that, and in my cloud, in all

(26:38):
my cloud is that massive CD collection. Sure, so I
have these mixture of a lot of stuff that's in
the cloud and a lot of stuff that's on there.
Got it. So the eight track off the album that
first appeared on the nineteen ninety four soundtrack of the
film The Crow, which which we haven't covered yet that
we've talked about. Oh, we're going to cover it at
some point. We gave the lay in that one, and

(27:01):
it was later released as a leading lead single off
this album. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
So originally it wasn't even supposed to be on The
Crow correct, And they had another track off of an
EP that they did that they were going to put
on the album, but after Brandon Lee died on set,
the band decided to contribute Big Empty instead.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I mean, man, I love the slide resonator guitar at
the beginning. I mean, this was just an absolutely awesome song,
number three on the US mainstream rock charts, number seven
on them We'll turn to airplay, number fifty on radio songs.
Just another one of those classics that's just instantly recognizable.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I would agree. I think it's when you talk about
an album that has recognizable songs like you have Interstate
Love Song instantly recognizable, Big Empty and Vassilon all instantly recognizable,
all top five right in when they ran. Big Empty
also won an MTV Movie Award for Best Song Featured

(28:03):
in a Movie.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh, by the way, that that album, The Crow soundtrack
three times platinum number one on the US Billboard two hundred.
I mean, I mean they slayed it with this song, man, Yeah,
I mean absolutely awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well, there's an unplugged version of this song flow. Yes,
it's great, incredible, it's great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So I mean I love again another one of those
best of the nineties choruses in this song. Yeah, I mean,
the chorus is just outstanding, man, despite the low key
nature of the song. I love how the guys find
ways to do little things that just keep this really
simple progression from being boring.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, and at the verse you're very concentrated on the verse, right,
and then immediately the chorus just explodes. Yeah, chorus just explodes.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I mean it at no point does it feel
like a darn your five minute song. No, I mean,
it's just excellent a the way throughout. It's dynamic in
a way that constantly keeps your attention. It's a classic
man like, it doesn't get much better than Big Empty.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's either this or Interstate Love Song. It's going to
be my favorite song on the album. Yeah. I would
say they're both kind of really really good, you know,
one a one B kind of thing. Yeah, I can't
really differentiate between the two because I like them both.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Sure, yeah, all right, man, So let's move on number nine.
We are not glued to this track. Oh, this is
such a great song.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
It is good.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
It is one of the best non single album tracks.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, it was actually released as a promo single just
for this album on Glued right, very short two minutes
and thirty four seconds. It was a minor hit for STP.
It only reached a peak position of eight on the
US Screen Stream Rock Billboard chart.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, okay, I didn't realize that they had released it
as like a promo single. Yeah, it was that a
promo I know, it wasn't one of like the official singles,
but like is the promo single. But I remember hearing
it on the radio. Yeah, that's the thing, right.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
And they also formed this song on The Late Show
with David Letterman in December of nineteen ninety four. Interesting, okay,
And I'm let's go back and find that. And this
was the last song Scott Whalen performed live before.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
He got okay, like in an encore the last show.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, that's just some of the factual facts that I
got off the interwebs.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I mean, great fast paced guitar riff, super catchy chorus,
just a.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Great song man.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Another one of those I guess because it's not an
official single.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's a deep cutting away, but it's it's an absolutely
outstanding song. I love on Glude.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, I mean, there's not a track on the album
that I you know that I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Means well, okay, excuse people say that.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You say that at least in the first you know,
in the first like nine songs song. Yeah, I would,
I'd agree, I'd largely agree, except for kind of maybe
this one. Well yeah, pretty penny to me, you know,
and pretty Penny. But yeah, Army ants as well. I
like the intro with this like flangy cleane horror and
into like a kind of a hard and fast rift.

(31:03):
But it's just I'm just not as much into the
song as a whole. I won't outright say it's one
that I skip every time I listen to.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
The album, but it's good as charms, but it's just
kind of okay, yeah, yeah, I mean Army it's it's
three minutes and forty six seconds, comes in kind of
psychedelic that gets a little bit heavy. I think the
track's boring. I could agree with that.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's got little things to it that I like, but yeah,
the sum of the parts is not entertaining to me,
let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was boring. I think it's
just a boring song. Sure, Like I've heard this before,
but the way the song progresses, you know, it seems
like they just added some cow bell or a little
bit more simple.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
There's just not there's nothing catchy about the riff. Yeah,
I'll be honest, Yeah, it's just boring. Okay, Moving on,
this one is definitely uh so final track called Kitchen
Wearing Candy Bars. Kitchen Wearing Candy Bars, It's this one
is definitely a skip for me. Yeah, Like, I don't
know why this is on the album, although I do
get a kick out of the hidden track.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, but I still think, like when I look at it,
I'm like, it just kind of doesn't belong right, So kitchen,
kitchen and candy bars. But you have a song called
lounge Fly on the album.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, and then when you listen to the hidden track,
it's basically like the super cheesy lounge style thank you
slash advertisement for the album.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, and it was performed by Richard Peterson, who's a
big fan of Johnny Mathis. And you know it's funny, Yeah,
it's it's funny. It is funny. The hidden track at
the end of this little four minutes and twenty seven
seconds of kitchening candy bars is track second album. Yeah,
and it's just a lounge song and it says, you know, hey,

(32:43):
the second album twelve Gracious Melodies, and you know they
reference that twelve Gracious Melodies. They're like greatest hits album.
I think it's called twelve Gracious Melodies. It's you listen
to it if you're a fan of Stone Tiple pilots
to get the time in cheek references off the other
stuff to understand their catalog. But it's not a good track.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Now, it's funny, but it's it's not something you're gonna
go listen to all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Right, So we'll just you know, to close the album out,
we'll just go pick them out their track to listen
to as we talk about the closing go back to
empty Man, Yeah, because I don't really like.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know, yeah, that's what a fan of this one anyway.
All right, so final thoughts on the album, man, Where
are you at on it.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So, you know, like kind of last week when we
talked about Third Eye Blind, it's in that eight to
nine ish realm for me. I gave it an eight
and a half. Yeah, it's you know, when you look
at compared to Third Eyeblind that we talked about at nine,
it was because of that first six, that front six
load that made it such a catchy in trinity album. Yeah, yeah,
this doesn't have that.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
It's different, but the singles are better, are legendary and
legendary compared to Third Eyeblind. Yeah, I'd agree with that completely.
You have a lot of really really you know, great
songs on that Third Eye Blind album.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, but you have legendary tracks in this album. And
this is like on my album list of if I'm
shopping in the record store and can't find anything and
I got some cash in my pocket, That's when I'm
gonna pick it up because it's everywhere. Yeah, but that's
about it, right. It's you can't call it a perfect tin,
even though I tried really hard, but it was mainly like.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
There's a couple of tracks where I'm just so ambivalent,
but the perfect.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Ten is like it's the full album. We agreed that
the perfect ten is the whole thing, and there's something
wrong with the whole thing, and we keep searching for
it and we still can't find it. Nope, not yet.
But there's a lot of good eights and nines out there.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I mean, this is one of them, man, I mean,
this album's a classic with a lot to love. I'll
admit I could skip a few tracks, but with incredibly
strong songs like Intertate love Song on Glued Big Empty Basoline,
this is gonna be one that stands a test of time,
you know, just like it has to the past thirty
plus years.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, I mean we talked. I mean, we decided to
open up the podcast talking about Core because we thought that, hey,
in terms of like albums and importance and how they
impacted us, Core was one of those albums. Yeah. This
was the follow up to that which.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Two years later, I mean, which was great still in
the height of the alternative grunge era. Yeah, just you
had so many fantastic albums coming out, I mean, and
then you look.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
At weren't necessarily dying from heroin overdoses yet, right and
Stone Tip of Pilots put out four really good albums
oh yeah, I mean after this year tiny music in
the back gift shop and then you have number four
and one of those albums have great singles to it,
so it went platinum, by the way, right, all of
them went all of them went platinum. So you know,

(35:48):
and you look at Well and you look at kind
of Wayland, you know, if it hadn't been for his
drug abuse, Yeah, I mean Stone Tip of Pilots would
probably be they'd still be going on. They would be
as relevant as Pearl Jam is today. Not saying that
Stone Tip of Pilots is irrelevant, but when you have
changes of lead singers, and when a lot of their

(36:09):
newer albums.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Are you could there's when you have to replace an
icon with somebody who's just not one. Yeah, it's gonna
be hard to remain relevant and get even your old
fan base back because they're gonna be thinking of Scott
Wiland one.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Well, and it's similar like Alison from this TV show
that you hired, and I look at it, like Allison
Chains and Lane Staley, right, like a lot of those
when the when the lead singer, you know, when something
happens and they lose that lead singer, it's hard to
come back. It is hard to come back. And you know,
I think the Stone Tip of Pilot still puts out great,

(36:44):
great stuff, new albums, new content, but I tend to
focus more on the Wayland era.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
When I think STP, I don't think of anything done
pretty much after number four.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
They just seem like a different band to be.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, all right, man, great album, Yeah great, it's fun
to talk about purple Man. It makes I need to
get that one on vinyl. I don't have it on vinyl.
What's on my list? I told the wife. I go, hey,
if you can't find anything, just give me these albums.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I've got an Amazon list, a bunch of albums I'm
just fine with getting.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Just buy vinyl. Yeah, you know, I'll sit there and
just leave me alone for hours.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
And is really there's legitimately like nothing else I need
or want for Christmas besides just some records.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
So yeah, that's all you want to do is put
your head phones on the list of music. There you go. So, hey,
what do we got? So we're in December, we got
a few more episodes left. What did we talk about covering?
I think we're gonna do Ever Clear, Ever Clear and
then we're going to wrap up the year with Sam's town.
Oh yeah, there we go. So I think we're gonna
end the year on hot bus. Yeah, we're gonna end
the year on number twos. So the month of december's

(37:52):
number two's so we got purple.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
We're gonna show, we're gon we're gonna find out who
number two works for, Who.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Number two works for? Who does number two? You know what,
I'm going to add that SoundBite. I'm going to add
that sound bite. I'm ready to use that on the
next two episodes. Absolutely, all right, man, all right, So,
and just like that, we are at the close of
another episode of Adventures in Vinyl. For more information on
the Bandstone Tiple Pilots, you can check out their website

(38:18):
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