June 8, 2025 • 40 mins
On this episode of Adventures in Vinyl, Adam and I discuss an album that won two Grammy Awards for Best Alternative Music Album and Best Recording Package. That band is Chicago’s own Wilco and the Album is 2005s A Ghost Is Born.
Song of The Week!
Graveyard Shift - Uncle Tupelo - No Depression
Drown - Son Volt - Trace
Stump The Barron!
Wake Up - Arcade Fire - Funeral
Wilco - A Ghost Is Born
Genre: Indie Rock
Release Date: June 22, 2004
Studio(s): Sear Sound (NYC), Soma EMS (Chicago)
Producer(s): Wilco, Jim O’Rourke
Label: Nonesuch
Length: 67:26
Number of Tracks: 12
For more information on the band Wilco visit their website is www.wilcostore.com If you enjoyed this podcast be sure to check us out at our website at www.adventuresinvinyl.com where you can find links to our episodes and through our support section you can find a place to order you very own adventures in vinyl T Shirt.
Song of The Week!
Graveyard Shift - Uncle Tupelo - No Depression
Drown - Son Volt - Trace
Stump The Barron!
Wake Up - Arcade Fire - Funeral
Wilco - A Ghost Is Born
Genre: Indie Rock
Release Date: June 22, 2004
Studio(s): Sear Sound (NYC), Soma EMS (Chicago)
Producer(s): Wilco, Jim O’Rourke
Label: Nonesuch
Length: 67:26
Number of Tracks: 12
For more information on the band Wilco visit their website is www.wilcostore.com If you enjoyed this podcast be sure to check us out at our website at www.adventuresinvinyl.com where you can find links to our episodes and through our support section you can find a place to order you very own adventures in vinyl T Shirt.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this episode of Adventures and Vinyl, Adam and I
discussed an album and that won two Grammy Awards for
Best Alternative Music Album and Best Recording Package. That band
is Chicago's own Wilco and the album is two thousand
and fives A Ghost Is Born. I think I need
(00:38):
to take more frequent vacations during the year.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, we take at least two trips to Florida every year,
and we try to get some getaways in every now
and then. But for the most part, man, it's harder
and harder to get away.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's like with me, it's like two weeks and everything's
been prepping even for this episode. Like I bought a
new truck, right and it's having.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
A warranty issues.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh no, Yeah, it's all things like the gear shifters
like clicking and it's not even like a real gear shifter,
and then that's some weird stuff what they see. So
a Friday, I was like, Hey, we're getting ready to go.
We're gonna drive the truck down. And the last thing
I need to do is when you're driving nine hours
two in a climate that's hotter than yours and you're
(01:19):
you know, driving through the lovely Delta of America. You
kind of don't want your AC to go out anyway.
I was sitting there and I was prepping a bunch
of this stuff, and man, I'm just like, you can't
even get anything good nowadays. Yeah, you know, it's like
everything you buy now is like, oh, there is something
wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I was actually listening to a podcast. It was a
gentleman who he built a car that has a five
gallon gas tank and a turbo diesel and it goes
one hundred and four miles per gallon. Yeah, and he
was talking about how he did it for twenty thousand
dollars and he'll do it custom for people. It's basically
just a manufactured vehicle. But he was talking about how
(01:56):
he doesn't own anything newer, like if it like two thousand,
I think it's like that newest vehicle he has, just
because vehicles these days have gotten to be so overpriced
and too complex to where the firmwork can work on them.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Like you got all these firmware engineers that everything's writing
it's based on some type of computer, you know, computer
or micro controller. And it's good because you get a
lot more systems that you seem to run more efficient,
but like like this one, you know, it was a
mechanical swamp. It was an issue just overcharge free on system.
But because there's a technical service bulletin or some type
of information message that hey, you should probably check and
(02:31):
make sure your HVAC controller is a software update. The
way the behaving, the way the behavior of the system was.
You know, it was like three hours on a rainy Friday.
I'm sitting there waiting for the download. Luckily the dealership
I went to like green Ford Service Department's grade.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
This guy Jacob was awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But you know, the good news is I got caught
up on work and I prepped the episode, which is fine,
which kind of led me because I was texting you
all through like hey, what's.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Your song of the week, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And I was just because I'd done, you know, I
ended up with like five hours of like no and
bothered me and I just like got all this stuff
of so.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Todd Ward texting is like punches and punches.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know. It's like I get six texts that are
all very short, within like a minute or two. Yeah,
and I know, oh Todd has some free time. He's
taking a crap right now, I would know normally I'm working.
It's not that I'm on the shitter like that. That's
a very commonplace to be to text people. I mean,
you know, everybody my buddy, every every.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Mail over forty right is like you know, sometimes you
just fake like you gotta take a take a dump
so you get some piece.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Quiet, Like I've got a buddy And he actually listened
to the podcast shout out to Nate Reagan, but he
he he and his wife make money doing like micro farming,
and they have a YouTube channel and the YouTube is
what generates their money because a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
On oh yeah, well I imagine micro farming, and that's
what Like, I'm sitting there trying to put together content
on our channel, like the Adventures and like trying to
like get.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
That, but you need months. He's got it down, like
you have months of like planning, yes to be able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
They've got it down to a science. But anyways, Nate,
he he'll send me a bunch of stuff like on Instagram,
bunch of funny videos and such. And that's when I
know that Nate's taking a crap, takeing it down, bar
because he's already told me. He's like, dude, I get
some quality toilet time for that half hour. All right, man,
all right, hey, So like this week.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You know, before Wilco Adam, there was a band that
was active between eighty seven and nineteen ninety four. That
band was called Uncle Tupelo. And after the departure of
one Jay Farrar, thank you. You know, words are hard
for me. Sometimes they are for all of us, you know,
the remaining members formed Wilco. So this song of the
week is Graveyard Shift by Uncle Tupelo. Okayf their album
(04:45):
No Depression.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think I listened to a little Uncle Tupelo out
of curiosity, probably a couple of years ago, and I
don't remember which tracks I listened to, but they it
didn't really resonate with me at the time. Yeah, my
tastes have changed more recently to where I think I
can appreciate that alt country style of music a little
bit more.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But it's it's not it's like a thicker country. Like
I don't consider it country, right because when you listen
to some of it, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
It's more like the vocal tone.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's the vocal tone.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They tend to have a more like country style delivery.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, like a twang. There's a twin to the voice,
because you see that. I think a lot of bands,
and for twenty years, folks, I've been trying to get
Adam to listen to willco So I finally had to
just say, hey, Adam, can we put this album on
the podcast? And you know what, folks, he's barely freaking
listened to it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I grudgingly agreed to this. It's not like I haven't
heard Will Coo, but I will put it. I haven't
listened to Willko. I haven't like really paid attention to it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So you know, this is my attempt, folks, to trying
to get Adam to listen to some Will Coo albums
because they're just awesome. It's not his genre of music
by any means, and it's something that I would probably
think that it's like me listened in the nineteen seventy
five a little.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Bit like that.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I would agree with that, even though you know
it's a you know, we were always trying to challenge
and open up new experiences. So I'm I'm curious to
see if you're gonna crap all over the album.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, I will say I like this song Uncle Dupelo. Yeah,
what's the name of the song again? Uh, this is
a graveyards graveyard. Yeah, it's off their album No Depression.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah. I like it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I mean it's obviously very early nineties. Yeah, you hear
it in there. Yeah, but it's good. Well, and I
you know, fands like this and like Lucero and.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Drive By Truckers.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
There's just a lot of like cool, rockier type of
bands that have a little bit of that country flavor, a.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Little bit of southern southern southern flavor.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's interesting. And all this came out in Chicago. That's
what I find really interesting. I'm like, it's Chicago.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So for my song of the Week, I went down
the other branch of the Uncle Tupelo tree. Yeah, Will
Cole being one Jeff Tweety band the other J Ferrar,
who you know. There was a disagreement between Tweety and
Farrar about you know, just I don't know what it was, really,
but they split off. Tweety started willco J Ferrar started
(07:11):
Sun Vult And this song came out on October nineteenth,
nineteen ninety five, off of Sun Vault's debut album, Trace,
This is Drowned. It was all over the radio, hit
number ten on the US Billboard Mainstream Rock Tracks chart,
was number twenty five on the Modern Rock Tracks chart.
What's interesting about this is Trace outsold Wilco's debut album,
(07:33):
which was called Am two to one. But I would
say though that in the grand scheme of things, will
Co won out on the marathon, even though Sun Vault
won the sprint.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well yeah, I think initially when the band split, like,
I wasn't like I didn't know a lot about Uncle Tupelo.
Rick Stagner introduced me. He used to work at Eddie
Bauer or Domini. I think he was a system manager
of the store when we were working there. During he
was like, oh, you got to check out Sun Vaults.
So I just check them out and then I saw them,
I FA them, and then I started hearing about Wilco
(08:07):
at the same time because they all kind of came
they split off, and.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's how I kind of got in.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
But I didn't really hit Wilco until way later, until
we moved back to until we moved to Texas. It
was several years later that I kind of really got
into some of Wilcom's albums. But I was kind of
changing a lot. Kid was born Coldplay, like my music
taste for changing, And I think during that time we
talked about like you were overseas, yes, so you may
(08:32):
have not been introduced to that kind of There was
like a there was a.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Lot that I was not around for, like on American
radio and such. I was finding my internet or my
music over the Internet at the time, which.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Was barely Internet, which was barely.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Barely the Internet in twenty and one, nineteen ninety nine,
et cetera. But yeah, I mean so at the time,
I was very much into the Gin Blossoms and who
were very similar in all country to Sun Vault here.
But yeah, I always resonated with this song, just really
great song man bluesy fun.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I like it, you know, Yeah, that was good.
I think we've actually featured this before, have we maybe? Okay,
well I think I maybe feature you, so I know
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
No, it was good. I was like, hey, that's totally appropriate. Yeah,
all right, man, are you ready ready?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Ready? Yeah, let's test this knowledge, folks.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
All right, what do I have today?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It's another episode of Adventures in Vinyl and that means
another round of Stump the Baron. On Stumped the Baron,
I pick a random song from a random genre. Give
Adam a few clues with all his semi genre specific
general knowledge of music, accurate attempts to guess the artist,
album and song title. This week on Stump the Baron,
we are in the year two thousand and four. This
track was the track that was selected this week. Is
(09:45):
from Let's see what my clue is here? Okay, clue,
it's a clue, all right, So we're in two thousand
and four. I selected the track from alternative bands fiery
rhythmnically complex rock that at full being straight.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Okay, this is like a solar bean face.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't know. Okay, all right, here's the Big Big,
the Big Clue.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's a Montreal based band. It was released in two
thousand and four and it was featured on the twenty
thirteen Ben Stiller movie The Secret Life of Walter Midty.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I never saw it. Oh yeah, so this is the
Arcade Fire.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh dang it.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
What's the name of this song?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You can get it?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Come on, just give it some time. I know it's
Arcade Fire for if you are correct on Arcade Fire.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I don't know the album name.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's okay, I just remember they had they did a
lot of the music for that movie where the Wild
Things Are Yep.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, this is a good song, man, it is a
good song. Crap, I can't remember the name of.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It all right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So the title of the song is wake Up, Wake Up.
The band is, of course, are Arcade Fire, and it's
off their album Funeral. Wake Up was the fifth and
final single that was released from the band's debut album Funeral.
The single was released as a one sided seven inch
final record on November fourteenth, two thousand.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Great song man, great freaking song. That riff is just.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So simple, but at the same time you could tell
like they're just banging.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Away at it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, and it's great. Yeah, it is such a good one. Yeah,
it's got. I mean it's got kind of like a
man anthemic, I guess is the word to it.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah. I dig songs like this.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, and I think you'll like a Ghost is Born
because it's kind of got. There's sections of the album
that are very similar. There's some of it, you know, sure,
there's some Yeah, yeah, man, great choice.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Good, all right, all right, Now we try to convince album.
Now we convinced album to listen to the atom.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah from Wilco's rights boards are in fact hard all
right to translate.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now we try to convince Adam.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
To listen wik album.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
A Ghost is Born? All right?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So A Ghost Is Born is the fifth studio album
by American rock band Willco. A Ghost Is Born was
released on June twenty second, two thousand and four, by
None Such Records. A Ghost Is Bourn consists of twelve
tracks and clocks in a total length of the sixty
seven minutes and twenty six seconds, So it's a bit
of a long album track one off the album, off
(12:27):
the album, album album. That's what happens when you have
like so many freaking technical difficulties. What I should do
is cut all that out and put at the very
end of the episode. Sure, and that's what happens, folks.
When you're a roadcaster is set on some kind of
weird preset that messes with your Bluetooth streaming, So check
out your crap before you actually start recording.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, I don't normally have this problem, so not anger defense. Well,
it's been a bad week. We talked about it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It has been all right, So you've never listened to Willco.
You don't really like Wilco? And uh who produced this one?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So this one was produced by what's the dude's name,
Jim o Jim O'Rourke, who was in Sonic Youth.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, he was in Sonic Youth.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I said that earlier, and yet I couldn't remember it
like ten minutes later.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That's okay, that's what happens when we have to do
a reboot.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, well, so what's interesting about this All the lyrics
are done by the two minute work.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, at that point it's well, it's it's real instrumental. Well,
and the whole album is kind of like that. Yeah,
lyrics are.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Odd on this album. Yeah, it was just different.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
To me, But I don't know. I think that's why
I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, Well, it's like, you know, pet Sound like Pet
Sounds was different, Yes, right, and that's why I was like,
when I started listing pet Sounds, immediately wanted something different,
and this is what I kind of gravitated to.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, so lyrics are done at two minutes and then
it's three and a half minutes of instrumental. A minor
to g Yeah, that's basically the progression. It's not fancy,
but it's just it is what it is. It was
all right. I like some of the guitar work here.
There's just not a lot grabbed my attention on this track.
That's not the intention of it. Is it that it
(14:04):
goes slow. It's that it goes slow like I like
when it gets in right here with the electric But
I think this is I'll just state it right from
the outside. I think this is very much a mood album.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's a chill out album for me or when I
need to really work on something and focus. Yeah, Like
I tend to listen to this and it is a
good like. It's not like I get in moods and
then I listen to Will Cook, Right, I'm like, oh,
I want to listen to Will Cook like I want.
It's you know, we've talked in the past that there's
(14:38):
certain bands that you just like want to listen to,
and you listen to a bunch of catalog and then
you move on to the next one cause you think,
oh no, Like I got into the Animals a little bit, right,
and so I listen to a bunch of animals for
like a week and then I was like, oh, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That's how I tend to rotate stuff around.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think this is very much a album where you
kind of need to be in the mood.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, it's kind of more situational, which is fine, Like
there's absolutely a time and a place for that. I
don't think I was in the mood I needed to
be in to appreciate this when I listened to it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Ah, yeah, yeah that can I was.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I struggled with that a lot, like preparing for like
there's some albums where, like we've talked about, I was like, dude,
I'm like I'm literally just.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Checking the box. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I was in a really stressful spot when I was
listening to this, and it was kind of like it
just didn't resonate with me.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
As a result.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I totally see a situation where maybe I'm a
little chiller.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, and I could appreciate this a long one.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well you can't really like if you got a bunch
of work rage, you know going on.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I had a bit of that this morning.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know. It's like kind of not that type of mood,
but it is like driving sure records some stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I could see this like driving at night. It would
be something I enjoyed. But all right, man, let's move
on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Hell is Chrome, second track off the album, clocks in
at four minutes and thirty eight seconds.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
What do you think about this one?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, this one was I liked the piano walk in
a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, that was a nice line to start the song.
It's a nice piece of work. Again, it's a mood
and I wasn't in the mood when I listened to it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I have you listened to any of Wilco's earlier stuff
like am Yankee Hotel five?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
But man, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I admittedly wasn't able to get to my prep for
this podcast until yesterday, and I completed it this morning.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
And so that tells you all you need to know.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
About how fresh I am walking into this, Like this
is all very.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
New to me.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm just diving in today essentially, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
In this kind of one. I mean it had won
a Grammy Award. Yeah, yeah, I mean it won a
Grammy Award. It came off Yankee Hotel Fox Trot, which
was pretty critically acclaimed. Yes, and I think in two thousand,
like two thousand and four, two thousand and five, Man,
this definitely changed. I mean there was really kind of
it was different back then. Yeah, which I thought it
(17:02):
was a really good album for an alternative.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It's the same thing again.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I think if I was in a more chill mood,
I'd be able to appreciate this way more. But I wasn't, Like,
I wasn't there when I listened to it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, this, you know, you're speaking a bunch of tracks
that have a lot of instrumental and very little lyrics.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
The next track, Spiders clocks in as of you know,
it's ten minutes and forty six seconds, and it's a
long track. It feels long, right, and it just the
same intro just repeats for four minutes for yeah, and
then there's some lyrics that come in and then it
goes instrumental on the other side, right, So it's it's
very I would say the album is a bit experimental
(17:41):
because it very it lacks and lyrics.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
It's very experimental, I admit it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
The four minute mark, I was about ready to call
it a day and move on to the next track. Yeah,
But then like the guitar line kicks in, yeah, and
I actually enjoyed that part. But then it's back to
this again, but in another long time, and I was
kind of like, man.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, well that's where it's like, if we fast forward
a little bit, right, here's your guitar part, but you
could still see that it's repeating.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Over and over and the lyrics are very minimal.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It felt just like it drags on to me.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
It's like like you had a dead in Company concert.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Okay, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's how long I think it is, because it seems
like it just jams a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, excessively so in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But okay, yeah, you can see spiders, yeah, repeats yeah yeah,
and then it's you know, there's a little bit of lyrics,
and then it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
It's very experimental.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
There is no arguing that it just dragged to me again,
and I just I struggled with that kind of hard
time paying attention.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Well, we'll torture Adams more with truck four. That's called muzzles.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I actually think this is a great acoustic Bees start.
Sorry I interrupted, you will you no, No, it's it's
just a Bees.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's another four minutes of fifty six seconds of talking
about bees sick riff acoustic guitar.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I like the slide work from an instrumental perspective. Actually
really liked this track. Again, definitely something that you're probably
gonna appreciate more when you're in a more relaxed frame
of mind.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Tend to listen to this album in the background. Yeah,
Now some of the things that you know, some of
the songs where it has the surging and a lot
of the noise, I don't appreciate it doesn't need it.
We'll get there, you know that that's part of the album. Like,
I'm sure we'll talk about right. Yeah, there's a lot
of bad points, but you know, with it being a Grammy,
(19:34):
it's an overall good album. I just it's not gonna
be for everyone's taste. But they do a lot of recordings.
I think if you're a fan of Willco, you know
this is kind of one of those, especially with the
deluxe the box set. Yeah, what's interesting how they released
this album. It was kind of like Apple iTunes was
getting prominent. Yeah, so they actually released this album for
(19:57):
free online.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Okay, interesting, I did not realize.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, it was actually you know, and that was
kind of one of the topics you know that I
kind of wanted to talk about, just as some of
this plays in the background because it's well, you may
not like the album, it did kind of bring some
things to the forefront in I think the streaming music industry.
So the band streamed the album online free and offered
a five song EP to purchasers, so they you know,
(20:25):
if you bought the album online, you got a free EP.
I think I even got it when Wow ordered it
off iTunes or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
That's actually pretty Dann cool man.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. It was kind of
some cool things.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It got positive reviews from Rolling Stone What's Interesting, and
actually got two Grammy albums, one for Best Alternative Music
and the other one for the cover art, which is
just like a white egg on a great.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Background, which is yeah, strange.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, I mean yeah, it's you know, I mean, I
guess it's an egg.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Something's being born. It's a ghost. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, well let's start Adam some more. No, you're
not torturing me. It's just it's different. It is different
what I would listen to normal. Yeah, Well, that's kind
of how it was with pet Sounds last week. I
liked the piano in this one. It's got a nice
This Hummingbird by the way, ladies and gentleman, I'm obviously
not on my game today, so.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well, Hummingbirds three three minutes eleven seconds, the track off
the album, kind of has that little upbeat type of thing.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yes, it reminded me there was like a I felt
like it was it Dexy's Midnight Runners.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Come on, Eileen, yeah, come to it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it reminded me a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's just got a nice like float along but in
to it, which I think is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, and actually I think None Such Records was the label. Yes,
and this was before Yankee Hotel Fox Trot, So they
just switched labels because I think Yankee Hotel Fox Trot
was on.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
That came out right before this album.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, didn't they change record companies or.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Reprise dropped them.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Because they didn't think the album was going to do
well and it's Slade.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah okay, yeah, so Reprise this is the album release
refused to release you.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, so they they did it under none set, which
is think the crazy thing about that was that reprise
and none such are under the Warner Media Group, both
of them. Yeah, I think they pointed out how messed
up the recording industry is because they're literally under the
same blanket label. They got switched to between subsidiaries, well
and got fired by one and picked up by the other. Well,
and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot's a great album. Yeah, I mean
(22:38):
it critically did really really well and it's celebrated one
of the best of all time. So I mean it's
odd that, but it's just weird how the record industry works.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, and Ghost is born, as you know, a pretty
sharp departure.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Oh it is, yeah, yeah, I remember if a Yankee
Hotel fox Trot.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's definitely different. So maybe you need to listen to Yankee.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I'll of it, listen to it again. It's again, it's
been a long time I've heard. It is very different
from us.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
This one, I actually like. This is kind of one
of I like the song on the album it's called
a Handshake Drugs. It's got kind of that acoustic intro,
but it has a little bit more depth to it,
and this one's just kind of it has more lyrics
in it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
It's got great bass work, yeah, great bass work. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I like the progression moves along really nicely. It's got
a nice groove to it. Yes, it's got some nice
lead guitar work as well. I like how the lead
guitar just kind of accentuates the song's progression.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And I like the way that the progression fades into
the background at the end of the song as the
guitar feedback kind of takes the lead.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
It's a good song. I liked this one.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, trying to think is there anything else cool about
this album. It peaked at number eight on the Billboard
two hundred chart. On release international hit as well, it
was twenty four Norway, twenty nine in Sweden, thirty three
in New Zealand, thirty four and BELGSM thirty seven in Ireland,
(24:01):
and as of April thirteenth, two thousand and seven, it's
sold over their dred forty thousand copies, according to Nielsen
sound Scan in the US the US alone, yeah, so
pretty critically claimed.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I'd be interesting to see what the worldwide sales figures
are for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Here to the fact that it was a hit in
other countries well, and Billboard cided it as Wilco's most
difficult and uncompromising album to date, and I think that's
an accurate description based on your view of your limited listening. Yeah, yeah,
it is because you can tell that they did it
for them. They weren't doing this to be commercially successful, right,
(24:39):
They were doing this because they wanted to do well
and it was.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Going to reach out to a certain amount of certain crowd.
And again I respect that. Yeah, I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I mean, just put out something that you know
it's going to sell just because you know it's going
to sell well.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
And here's it's called being a shill. Well, and here's
what's interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Pitchfork, on the release of the album ranked it six
point six out of ten. Okay, that was in two
thousand and four, and this year they ranked in a
nine point four out of two.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Wow, it's obviously the opinion has changed over time.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, I think it grows on you the importance in
how people receive it. Right, So some albums kind of
catch a second win. I think they released a big
deluxe album set that a lot of stuff, so I think,
just gotcha.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You know some of this stuff you.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Hear in the background like Handshake Drugs. So the whole
album was kind of like this, but it had a
little bit more lyrics and maybe the song is a
little bit shorter, probably been good, But I think the
piece of art that they produced obviously was accepted in
the industry, and more so twenty years later.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Absolutely. All right, let's kind of let's move on to
side B.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Wishful Thinking is the seven track off the album clocks
in four minutes and forty one seconds.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You know. The one thing this album has a lot
of that of stuff in it.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I like the fade in after the fade out of
Handshake Drugs, you know, because it kind of fades out
at the end, and then this one fades in.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But the noise a lot of the noise, Yeah, well
I could kind of not That's what I don't like
about the album because if you look at the lead in,
it's just so long.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But it's like, but so is like Pink Floyd's.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The Wall it is, yeah, you know, Dark Side of
the Moon, similar type of stuff. Right, is kind of
and I have to get in moods to list of
those albums throughout right, and this is kind of what
I feel like some of that is, but the I
agree kind of the fade out fade in that, I
would say, well, they call it and not an intermis,
(26:45):
I guess an intermission.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
It seemed like there was sort of interlude interlude. Yeah,
are a segue.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I mean there's some little things going on in the
background between the vocals that are cool in this song.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
No, I'm sorry, that's that's another song. I'm looking at
the wrong line here and jeez, man, get it together,
you can go the next one.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Great bass work again. I love the ethereal pad and
how the bass just floats above the pad and drives
melody along. I think that's great. But yeah, man, good song.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So a track of the album is Company in My Back.
So this one's the real short one. It's fine, I guess,
I don't know really like this one. It's not really
a track stands out to me. There's again little things
going on in the background. Yeah, but it's just kind
of there for me. Well, and like you said, like
it's a good album when you're in the mood to
listen to it. I would agree with that opinion because.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You can't like if you for me, it's something in
the back. It's a vibe.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
If it's it's a vibe, and if you're not vibing
in that direction, then you're not gonna get it. Which
I didn't get it, but I think I could if
I come back to it again at the right time.
So yeah, all right, next one. This was the single, right,
I don't think it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think this was the one single they had on
the album. I'm a Wheel is the name of the track.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I don't know if they even had a singles yet,
now they had one. I think this was it. So
it's vocally very silly.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes, this is the Musically, it's fast pacing, weird. This
is the only single albums. I admittedly don't understand this
being a single.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's I think they had to release one, and it
was the shortest one.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
They didn't have a bunch of noise in it. It
still became the single.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
This isn't the strongest track to me. I actually think
you could do something like handshake Drugs and make that
your single.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And I mean, you know, this might be one of
the more upbeat songs on the album, but I would
say it's just not one of the stronger tracks on
the album.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
It's just kind of.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Again, nah yeah, moving on Theologians, Theologians, Theologians, Theologians.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So as we get to the tail end of this,
when Theologians clocks in at three minutes and thirty six seconds,
it's the tenth track.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I kind of like the shorter tracks.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
What do you think about this when compared to some
of the rest of them, kind of same vibe, like.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Eh, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, so I'm not a fan. No,
I didn't have much to say here.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I didn't really enjoy it, all right, just kind of okay,
So the eleventh track is less than you think it.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Is, except it's more than you think.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It is the length of a sitcom dude with dope commercials.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Fourteen minutes, good grief, dude. The lyrics are done by
the three minute mark, and then you got eleven minutes
of freaking noise.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well it doesn't need that, no.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Right, it's experimental so when you listen to it, right,
it all depends on like you gotta do it again.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's the vibe thing, and I did not pass the
vibe check on this album today.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, I mean, obviously, you know the industry responded to it,
gave it a Grammy. Right, I loved it, and it
still continues.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Subjective that music is.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And when you're in.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
A record store, people see you buy it. Oh yeah, man,
that's great.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So I think it's respected by a lot of people.
A lot of people like it, respect the album for
what it is. But it's gonna have a select fan base.
I mean, I think if you're if you're really genre like, you're,
your music taste ors to a specific Yeah, you gravitate
towards a couple of specific genres where you're highly concentrated.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yes, and then I'll have a smattering of things across
other genres that I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Right, But it's very selective of what you like, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But you know when you look at some of the
genres you're really drawn to based on And that's where
we have this Pearl Jam debate all the time. You
Donnie and I have this Pearl Jam debate. Donnie likes
just Pearl Jam for the jam band. I think Pearl
Jam aspect. I like Pearl Jam for three albums, and
(30:55):
you know, respect all their stuff that they did later,
but they're mostly a jam band now.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
But the what they did in that grunge air. But
that's where I was kind of grew up.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
And I liked Pearl Jams for who they were at
the time.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They were that, and then when they moved away from
being that and I also grew up, I found I
no longer enjoyed the music.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, like the first three albums I like about Pearl
Jam and it will Co I think has a similar
type of you know, I want to see Wilco live
and I've always missed the opportunity. But I've seen some
Vault live, right, so for me, but I want to
like hear some of the great songs, the Jam songs.
It seems like it'd be a good concert. But you know,
I don't think I would sit through a fifteen.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Fifteen minute song with like, yeah, thirteen minute, twelve.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Super duper guitar jams and everyone's dancing and you're in
that kind of line.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I did something really cool and maybe so yeah, all right,
let's move on to the last one.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
The Lake Greats is the last track off the album.
It's actually a little I like it as a closing.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
This one made me laugh. I like when you listen
to the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Basically, what they're saying is that I think turpentine is
an industry term for bands that can never like they
get off the ground, but they can't ever like, they're
never gonna get radio play, they're never gonna be signed,
They're stuck in turpentine. I think that's kind of what
they're getting at here. It's it's Willco's tribute to those
bands that are great, they have like, they have great songs,
(32:17):
they're great bands, but they just don't get any love
whatsoever from radio stations, the music industry, record labels, and
how nobody will ever hear them as a result of that.
I think this is a good song. It's a fun
tribute to great bands who will never be heard or signed.
It's simple, but lyrically it's the one song on the
album that really stuck out to me.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, and did you think after.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, Will Case like middle fingers, We're just
gonna do whatever we want exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think that's this is very much influenced by that,
but also like you can imagine them coming up in
Chicago with a lot of bands that were probably really
good but that nobody ever heard. Yeah, because they just
didn't catch a break, and I think a band like
Wilco is probably still very connected to the scene they
came from, and as a result, like wants to kind
of pay homage to those bands by saying, hey, listen,
(33:07):
we see you, we hear you. This is what you're
dealing with. It's a thing, and we're gonna let everybody
know it's a thing. Yeah. So I thought it was
a great song, honestly, Yeah, I liked it. I appreciated it,
all right.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
So the album holds a score of eighty one out
of one hundred from thirty three critics, and most recently
this year, Right In two twenty five reached a peak
position of eight on the Hungarian Physical Albums chart.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Okay, it's interesting, you know in hungry all right.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You know, I think I kind of struggle with it.
To me, it's not a ten, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I like the album.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I own the album, but I'm also a will Code fan,
right and I like a lot of their collection. And
I listened to this album a lot, but during the time,
and I have to be in the right mood to
listen to it. But a lot of the noise I
tend to drown out yeah, because I'm focused on the
groove sections I found when this is playing in the background,
it's mainly I use it in a busy like. This
(34:03):
isn't something you work out. I don't want work out
in the gym to it. I can drive to it
and I could do some work in the background. But
maybe it's some of that instrumental kind of helps, right,
But I don't think it's It's not a general I
think album.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
No, it's not something that you can just pop in
and listen to just about any time. Again, and how
you have to pass. Yeah, that vibe check that this
fits into the album just didn't really grab me.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Again, I had to do with the mood I think
that I was in at the time I listened to it.
It's a good enough album. I don't have a lot
of bad things to say about it, but I also
don't have a lot of great things to say about it.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, but it does it make you want to go
back and listen to Yankee Hotel Fox Trot.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I I'd more out of curiosity than anything else. Yeah, Yeah,
to see what they departed from to make this. I
gave this one a five, And it's not necessarily because
it's bad not gigging it, giving it an f like
a fifty percent. It's more just like, because I didn't
have anything bad to about it, but I also didn't
have anything great to say about it. I just landed
(35:03):
it right in the middle of that one to ten scale.
That's more the justification behind it than anything else. Yeah,
That's where I landed with it. I'm just kind of
ambivalent towards it. It's not like if somebody played it,
I wouldn't be like, oh jeez, I don't want to
hear that, and just be kind of like, okay, all right,
(35:23):
I'm excited, wouldn't be angry. I'd just be somewhere in between.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So, folks, I failed. I don't know if I'll ever
get out them to listen to Will co Ever again.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I'll listen to him again. I'll go listen to Yankee
Hotel Fox Trot again again. I think I listened to
it probably, oh she's fifteen years ago. Yeah, but I'll
go listen to it again, give it another shot. I
don't remember a single song off of it all. I'm
sure I probably will. I'm sure there will be one
that will Oh yeah, I remember that song like there'll
be one of those. But yeah, I'll give it a
shot again. I don't know that I'll give this album
(35:53):
another shot.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
M Okay, Well, it looks like the fight is still on.
The fight is still on. I will introduce Adam to
something outside his genre one of these days that I
will really really like. Maybe on the Hunter podcast. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I appreciate you trying. Hey, what are we going for next?
I had this weird thing about thinking about.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
The police, the Police. I don't know why the police
popped in my head, like synchronicity. I don't care pick
a police album.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I mean i'd probably picked synchronicity. You know, something with
a message in the bottom, bottle bottle, that message in the.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Bottom, message coming out of the bottom. Yeah, yeah, that's kinky. Yeah,
let's do synchronicity.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Man, synchronosity. Yeah yeah, I think we could prefer it.
Sounds like fun. Well, it's a kind of cool album.
And Sting is Sting.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, I mean they're an interesting band. Yeah, a ton
of history there. Sting went on to have a massive
career of his own. Stuart Copeland is genius.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
There's a lot of like stories.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Andy Summers is this great guitar player who was like
always trying to play the mediator, and as a result
he ended up like kind of this weird place.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Have you thought anymore about kind of the top five
for content episodes that were thinking about doing.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I haven't come up with any yet, but we also
haven't decided on a topic.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
M I was thinking. What I was thinking, We just
inner something in chat GPT. Whatever five songs it spits out.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh, okay, and we could know I will probably hate
four of those five songs.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Oh I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to be us
ripping on most of it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
But like we can make fun of chat GPT, but
what it's feelings you get hurt?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, I mean, like we could just pick you know,
what are the top relevant I don't know, Nirvana songs
that have to do with.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
We're going to get that specific you're thinking like top
five songs to go to the beach with or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
No, what, I think you could put anything in chat GPT,
but you pick a theme, okay, and then it spits
out five songs.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Let's not make it about a specific band though, Okay,
get about a topic.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, let's just ask chat situation the top five songs
and you just pick a situation and then what we'll
do is we'll put that in chat GPT.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
We'll open up the episode with that. Well, no song of.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
The week, no stump the baron, but it'll be really
short and basically the we'll generate the five songs, we'll
both listen to them, no, and we will exchange notes
on the episode, and then you got to pick. You
picked the question, I'll put it in, I'll run it
(38:31):
through chat GPT, okay, and then I'll spit it out
and then we will kick off. Since we'll be entering
our official third year wow of the podcast in July.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Entering year three. Man, that's crazy, we will kick off
year three and try to put out and.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Because I think we can stack those ah for sure,
you know, and we make them ten fifteen minute episodes.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I think that would be good.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I love the fact that you and I are talking
right now, pretending like this is just a normal conversation
for us and people aren't actually listening.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I think that's kind of how we structured the podcast right,
kind of is like a little bit we just talked,
but at the same time, like this is literally a
conversation you and I would just have without anybody around. Yeah, sure, sure,
but sometimes we do that. Sometimes we do that, hey,
and like that. It's just to be close. Another episode
of the Ventures in Vinyl. Uh if you like the
music featured on this episode, and I don't know why
(39:22):
the heck you would be honest, except for a couple
of songs. But you can get the links on the
episode's web page for more information on the band will Co.
They've got a website. It's ww dot willcostore dot com.
Apparently it's will Co stores. You can buy a bunch
of old will Co t shirts.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
They want you to buy things they don't care about
you like learning anything about them?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, you know, I think uh merch is kind of
the way they might mix money now you know, maybe
you know they don't make it on get streaming. I
don't think they make crap on stream. Have you seen
some of like the returns on streaming?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I have.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It's awful.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's pretty awful.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
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Speaker 3 (40:09):
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Speaker 1 (40:12):
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Speaker 4 (40:25):
Co also known as Adventures in Vinyl. I know, get
it right, Todd.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Oh sorry, We'll see you next time on another episode
Adventures in Vinyl. Let's be professional here. Sorry, actually we're
not professional.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Let's not be peru.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I think that's what makes it work is that we
really don't care. Now all we just talk forget professional.
I mean when I look at all these I'll just
not suck. Yeah, well, that's what we're trying to do,
is just not suck.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
There you go,
On this episode of Adventures and Vinyl, Adam and I
discussed an album and that won two Grammy Awards for
Best Alternative Music Album and Best Recording Package. That band
is Chicago's own Wilco and the album is two thousand
and fives A Ghost Is Born. I think I need
(00:38):
to take more frequent vacations during the year.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, we take at least two trips to Florida every year,
and we try to get some getaways in every now
and then. But for the most part, man, it's harder
and harder to get away.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's like with me, it's like two weeks and everything's
been prepping even for this episode. Like I bought a
new truck, right and it's having.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
A warranty issues.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh no, Yeah, it's all things like the gear shifters
like clicking and it's not even like a real gear shifter,
and then that's some weird stuff what they see. So
a Friday, I was like, Hey, we're getting ready to go.
We're gonna drive the truck down. And the last thing
I need to do is when you're driving nine hours
two in a climate that's hotter than yours and you're
(01:19):
you know, driving through the lovely Delta of America. You
kind of don't want your AC to go out anyway.
I was sitting there and I was prepping a bunch
of this stuff, and man, I'm just like, you can't
even get anything good nowadays. Yeah, you know, it's like
everything you buy now is like, oh, there is something
wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I was actually listening to a podcast. It was a
gentleman who he built a car that has a five
gallon gas tank and a turbo diesel and it goes
one hundred and four miles per gallon. Yeah, and he
was talking about how he did it for twenty thousand
dollars and he'll do it custom for people. It's basically
just a manufactured vehicle. But he was talking about how
(01:56):
he doesn't own anything newer, like if it like two thousand,
I think it's like that newest vehicle he has, just
because vehicles these days have gotten to be so overpriced
and too complex to where the firmwork can work on them.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Like you got all these firmware engineers that everything's writing
it's based on some type of computer, you know, computer
or micro controller. And it's good because you get a
lot more systems that you seem to run more efficient,
but like like this one, you know, it was a
mechanical swamp. It was an issue just overcharge free on system.
But because there's a technical service bulletin or some type
of information message that hey, you should probably check and
(02:31):
make sure your HVAC controller is a software update. The
way the behaving, the way the behavior of the system was.
You know, it was like three hours on a rainy Friday.
I'm sitting there waiting for the download. Luckily the dealership
I went to like green Ford Service Department's grade.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
This guy Jacob was awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But you know, the good news is I got caught
up on work and I prepped the episode, which is fine,
which kind of led me because I was texting you
all through like hey, what's.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Your song of the week, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And I was just because I'd done, you know, I
ended up with like five hours of like no and
bothered me and I just like got all this stuff
of so.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Todd Ward texting is like punches and punches.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know. It's like I get six texts that are
all very short, within like a minute or two. Yeah,
and I know, oh Todd has some free time. He's
taking a crap right now, I would know normally I'm working.
It's not that I'm on the shitter like that. That's
a very commonplace to be to text people. I mean,
you know, everybody my buddy, every every.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Mail over forty right is like you know, sometimes you
just fake like you gotta take a take a dump
so you get some piece.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Quiet, Like I've got a buddy And he actually listened
to the podcast shout out to Nate Reagan, but he
he he and his wife make money doing like micro farming,
and they have a YouTube channel and the YouTube is
what generates their money because a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
On oh yeah, well I imagine micro farming, and that's
what Like, I'm sitting there trying to put together content
on our channel, like the Adventures and like trying to
like get.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
That, but you need months. He's got it down, like
you have months of like planning, yes to be able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
They've got it down to a science. But anyways, Nate,
he he'll send me a bunch of stuff like on Instagram,
bunch of funny videos and such. And that's when I
know that Nate's taking a crap, takeing it down, bar
because he's already told me. He's like, dude, I get
some quality toilet time for that half hour. All right, man,
all right, hey, So like this week.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You know, before Wilco Adam, there was a band that
was active between eighty seven and nineteen ninety four. That
band was called Uncle Tupelo. And after the departure of
one Jay Farrar, thank you. You know, words are hard
for me. Sometimes they are for all of us, you know,
the remaining members formed Wilco. So this song of the
week is Graveyard Shift by Uncle Tupelo. Okayf their album
(04:45):
No Depression.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think I listened to a little Uncle Tupelo out
of curiosity, probably a couple of years ago, and I
don't remember which tracks I listened to, but they it
didn't really resonate with me at the time. Yeah, my
tastes have changed more recently to where I think I
can appreciate that alt country style of music a little
bit more.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But it's it's not it's like a thicker country. Like
I don't consider it country, right because when you listen
to some of it, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
It's more like the vocal tone.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's the vocal tone.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They tend to have a more like country style delivery.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, like a twang. There's a twin to the voice,
because you see that. I think a lot of bands,
and for twenty years, folks, I've been trying to get
Adam to listen to willco So I finally had to
just say, hey, Adam, can we put this album on
the podcast? And you know what, folks, he's barely freaking
listened to it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I grudgingly agreed to this. It's not like I haven't
heard Will Coo, but I will put it. I haven't
listened to Willko. I haven't like really paid attention to it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So you know, this is my attempt, folks, to trying
to get Adam to listen to some Will Coo albums
because they're just awesome. It's not his genre of music
by any means, and it's something that I would probably
think that it's like me listened in the nineteen seventy
five a little.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Bit like that.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I would agree with that, even though you know
it's a you know, we were always trying to challenge
and open up new experiences. So I'm I'm curious to
see if you're gonna crap all over the album.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, I will say I like this song Uncle Dupelo. Yeah,
what's the name of the song again? Uh, this is
a graveyards graveyard. Yeah, it's off their album No Depression.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah. I like it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I mean it's obviously very early nineties. Yeah, you hear
it in there. Yeah, but it's good. Well, and I
you know, fands like this and like Lucero and.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Drive By Truckers.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
There's just a lot of like cool, rockier type of
bands that have a little bit of that country flavor, a.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Little bit of southern southern southern flavor.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's interesting. And all this came out in Chicago. That's
what I find really interesting. I'm like, it's Chicago.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So for my song of the Week, I went down
the other branch of the Uncle Tupelo tree. Yeah, Will
Cole being one Jeff Tweety band the other J Ferrar,
who you know. There was a disagreement between Tweety and
Farrar about you know, just I don't know what it was, really,
but they split off. Tweety started willco J Ferrar started
(07:11):
Sun Vult And this song came out on October nineteenth,
nineteen ninety five, off of Sun Vault's debut album, Trace,
This is Drowned. It was all over the radio, hit
number ten on the US Billboard Mainstream Rock Tracks chart,
was number twenty five on the Modern Rock Tracks chart.
What's interesting about this is Trace outsold Wilco's debut album,
(07:33):
which was called Am two to one. But I would
say though that in the grand scheme of things, will
Co won out on the marathon, even though Sun Vault
won the sprint.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well yeah, I think initially when the band split, like,
I wasn't like I didn't know a lot about Uncle Tupelo.
Rick Stagner introduced me. He used to work at Eddie
Bauer or Domini. I think he was a system manager
of the store when we were working there. During he
was like, oh, you got to check out Sun Vaults.
So I just check them out and then I saw them,
I FA them, and then I started hearing about Wilco
(08:07):
at the same time because they all kind of came
they split off, and.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's how I kind of got in.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
But I didn't really hit Wilco until way later, until
we moved back to until we moved to Texas. It
was several years later that I kind of really got
into some of Wilcom's albums. But I was kind of
changing a lot. Kid was born Coldplay, like my music
taste for changing, And I think during that time we
talked about like you were overseas, yes, so you may
(08:32):
have not been introduced to that kind of There was
like a there was a.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Lot that I was not around for, like on American
radio and such. I was finding my internet or my
music over the Internet at the time, which.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Was barely Internet, which was barely.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Barely the Internet in twenty and one, nineteen ninety nine,
et cetera. But yeah, I mean so at the time,
I was very much into the Gin Blossoms and who
were very similar in all country to Sun Vault here.
But yeah, I always resonated with this song, just really
great song man bluesy fun.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I like it, you know, Yeah, that was good.
I think we've actually featured this before, have we maybe? Okay,
well I think I maybe feature you, so I know
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
No, it was good. I was like, hey, that's totally appropriate. Yeah,
all right, man, are you ready ready?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Ready? Yeah, let's test this knowledge, folks.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
All right, what do I have today?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It's another episode of Adventures in Vinyl and that means
another round of Stump the Baron. On Stumped the Baron,
I pick a random song from a random genre. Give
Adam a few clues with all his semi genre specific
general knowledge of music, accurate attempts to guess the artist,
album and song title. This week on Stump the Baron,
we are in the year two thousand and four. This
track was the track that was selected this week. Is
(09:45):
from Let's see what my clue is here? Okay, clue,
it's a clue, all right, So we're in two thousand
and four. I selected the track from alternative bands fiery
rhythmnically complex rock that at full being straight.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Okay, this is like a solar bean face.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't know. Okay, all right, here's the Big Big,
the Big Clue.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's a Montreal based band. It was released in two
thousand and four and it was featured on the twenty
thirteen Ben Stiller movie The Secret Life of Walter Midty.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I never saw it. Oh yeah, so this is the
Arcade Fire.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh dang it.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
What's the name of this song?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You can get it?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Come on, just give it some time. I know it's
Arcade Fire for if you are correct on Arcade Fire.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I don't know the album name.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's okay, I just remember they had they did a
lot of the music for that movie where the Wild
Things Are Yep.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, this is a good song, man, it is a
good song. Crap, I can't remember the name of.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It all right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So the title of the song is wake Up, Wake Up.
The band is, of course, are Arcade Fire, and it's
off their album Funeral. Wake Up was the fifth and
final single that was released from the band's debut album Funeral.
The single was released as a one sided seven inch
final record on November fourteenth, two thousand.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Great song man, great freaking song. That riff is just.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So simple, but at the same time you could tell
like they're just banging.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Away at it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, and it's great. Yeah, it is such a good one. Yeah,
it's got. I mean it's got kind of like a
man anthemic, I guess is the word to it.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah. I dig songs like this.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, and I think you'll like a Ghost is Born
because it's kind of got. There's sections of the album
that are very similar. There's some of it, you know, sure,
there's some Yeah, yeah, man, great choice.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Good, all right, all right, Now we try to convince album.
Now we convinced album to listen to the atom.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah from Wilco's rights boards are in fact hard all
right to translate.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now we try to convince Adam.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
To listen wik album.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
A Ghost is Born? All right?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So A Ghost Is Born is the fifth studio album
by American rock band Willco. A Ghost Is Born was
released on June twenty second, two thousand and four, by
None Such Records. A Ghost Is Bourn consists of twelve
tracks and clocks in a total length of the sixty
seven minutes and twenty six seconds, So it's a bit
of a long album track one off the album, off
(12:27):
the album, album album. That's what happens when you have
like so many freaking technical difficulties. What I should do
is cut all that out and put at the very
end of the episode. Sure, and that's what happens, folks.
When you're a roadcaster is set on some kind of
weird preset that messes with your Bluetooth streaming, So check
out your crap before you actually start recording.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, I don't normally have this problem, so not anger defense. Well,
it's been a bad week. We talked about it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It has been all right, So you've never listened to Willco.
You don't really like Wilco? And uh who produced this one?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So this one was produced by what's the dude's name,
Jim o Jim O'Rourke, who was in Sonic Youth.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, he was in Sonic Youth.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I said that earlier, and yet I couldn't remember it
like ten minutes later.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That's okay, that's what happens when we have to do
a reboot.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, well, so what's interesting about this All the lyrics
are done by the two minute work.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, at that point it's well, it's it's real instrumental. Well,
and the whole album is kind of like that. Yeah,
lyrics are.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Odd on this album. Yeah, it was just different.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
To me, But I don't know. I think that's why
I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, Well, it's like, you know, pet Sound like Pet
Sounds was different, Yes, right, and that's why I was like,
when I started listing pet Sounds, immediately wanted something different,
and this is what I kind of gravitated to.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, so lyrics are done at two minutes and then
it's three and a half minutes of instrumental. A minor
to g Yeah, that's basically the progression. It's not fancy,
but it's just it is what it is. It was
all right. I like some of the guitar work here.
There's just not a lot grabbed my attention on this track.
That's not the intention of it. Is it that it
(14:04):
goes slow. It's that it goes slow like I like
when it gets in right here with the electric But
I think this is I'll just state it right from
the outside. I think this is very much a mood album.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's a chill out album for me or when I
need to really work on something and focus. Yeah, Like
I tend to listen to this and it is a
good like. It's not like I get in moods and
then I listen to Will Cook, Right, I'm like, oh,
I want to listen to Will Cook like I want.
It's you know, we've talked in the past that there's
(14:38):
certain bands that you just like want to listen to,
and you listen to a bunch of catalog and then
you move on to the next one cause you think,
oh no, Like I got into the Animals a little bit, right,
and so I listen to a bunch of animals for
like a week and then I was like, oh, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That's how I tend to rotate stuff around.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think this is very much a album where you
kind of need to be in the mood.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, it's kind of more situational, which is fine, Like
there's absolutely a time and a place for that. I
don't think I was in the mood I needed to
be in to appreciate this when I listened to it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Ah, yeah, yeah that can I was.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I struggled with that a lot, like preparing for like
there's some albums where, like we've talked about, I was like, dude,
I'm like I'm literally just.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Checking the box. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I was in a really stressful spot when I was
listening to this, and it was kind of like it
just didn't resonate with me.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
As a result.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I totally see a situation where maybe I'm a
little chiller.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, and I could appreciate this a long one.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well you can't really like if you got a bunch
of work rage, you know going on.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I had a bit of that this morning.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know. It's like kind of not that type of mood,
but it is like driving sure records some stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I could see this like driving at night. It would
be something I enjoyed. But all right, man, let's move
on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Hell is Chrome, second track off the album, clocks in
at four minutes and thirty eight seconds.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
What do you think about this one?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, this one was I liked the piano walk in
a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, that was a nice line to start the song.
It's a nice piece of work. Again, it's a mood
and I wasn't in the mood when I listened to it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I have you listened to any of Wilco's earlier stuff
like am Yankee Hotel five?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
But man, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I admittedly wasn't able to get to my prep for
this podcast until yesterday, and I completed it this morning.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
And so that tells you all you need to know.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
About how fresh I am walking into this, Like this
is all very.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
New to me.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm just diving in today essentially, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
In this kind of one. I mean it had won
a Grammy Award. Yeah, yeah, I mean it won a
Grammy Award. It came off Yankee Hotel Fox Trot, which
was pretty critically acclaimed. Yes, and I think in two thousand,
like two thousand and four, two thousand and five, Man,
this definitely changed. I mean there was really kind of
it was different back then. Yeah, which I thought it
(17:02):
was a really good album for an alternative.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It's the same thing again.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I think if I was in a more chill mood,
I'd be able to appreciate this way more. But I wasn't, Like,
I wasn't there when I listened to it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, this, you know, you're speaking a bunch of tracks
that have a lot of instrumental and very little lyrics.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
The next track, Spiders clocks in as of you know,
it's ten minutes and forty six seconds, and it's a
long track. It feels long, right, and it just the
same intro just repeats for four minutes for yeah, and
then there's some lyrics that come in and then it
goes instrumental on the other side, right, So it's it's
very I would say the album is a bit experimental
(17:41):
because it very it lacks and lyrics.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
It's very experimental, I admit it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
The four minute mark, I was about ready to call
it a day and move on to the next track. Yeah,
But then like the guitar line kicks in, yeah, and
I actually enjoyed that part. But then it's back to
this again, but in another long time, and I was
kind of like, man.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, well that's where it's like, if we fast forward
a little bit, right, here's your guitar part, but you
could still see that it's repeating.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Over and over and the lyrics are very minimal.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It felt just like it drags on to me.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
It's like like you had a dead in Company concert.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Okay, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's how long I think it is, because it seems
like it just jams a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, excessively so in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But okay, yeah, you can see spiders, yeah, repeats yeah yeah,
and then it's you know, there's a little bit of lyrics,
and then it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
It's very experimental.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
There is no arguing that it just dragged to me again,
and I just I struggled with that kind of hard
time paying attention.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Well, we'll torture Adams more with truck four. That's called muzzles.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I actually think this is a great acoustic Bees start.
Sorry I interrupted, you will you no, No, it's it's
just a Bees.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's another four minutes of fifty six seconds of talking
about bees sick riff acoustic guitar.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I like the slide work from an instrumental perspective. Actually
really liked this track. Again, definitely something that you're probably
gonna appreciate more when you're in a more relaxed frame
of mind.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Tend to listen to this album in the background. Yeah,
Now some of the things that you know, some of
the songs where it has the surging and a lot
of the noise, I don't appreciate it doesn't need it.
We'll get there, you know that that's part of the album. Like,
I'm sure we'll talk about right. Yeah, there's a lot
of bad points, but you know, with it being a Grammy,
(19:34):
it's an overall good album. I just it's not gonna
be for everyone's taste. But they do a lot of recordings.
I think if you're a fan of Willco, you know
this is kind of one of those, especially with the
deluxe the box set. Yeah, what's interesting how they released
this album. It was kind of like Apple iTunes was
getting prominent. Yeah, so they actually released this album for
(19:57):
free online.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Okay, interesting, I did not realize.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, it was actually you know, and that was
kind of one of the topics you know that I
kind of wanted to talk about, just as some of
this plays in the background because it's well, you may
not like the album, it did kind of bring some
things to the forefront in I think the streaming music industry.
So the band streamed the album online free and offered
a five song EP to purchasers, so they you know,
(20:25):
if you bought the album online, you got a free EP.
I think I even got it when Wow ordered it
off iTunes or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
That's actually pretty Dann cool man.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. It was kind of
some cool things.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It got positive reviews from Rolling Stone What's Interesting, and
actually got two Grammy albums, one for Best Alternative Music
and the other one for the cover art, which is
just like a white egg on a great.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Background, which is yeah, strange.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, I mean yeah, it's you know, I mean, I
guess it's an egg.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Something's being born. It's a ghost. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, well let's start Adam some more. No, you're
not torturing me. It's just it's different. It is different
what I would listen to normal. Yeah, Well, that's kind
of how it was with pet Sounds last week. I
liked the piano in this one. It's got a nice
This Hummingbird by the way, ladies and gentleman, I'm obviously
not on my game today, so.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well, Hummingbirds three three minutes eleven seconds, the track off
the album, kind of has that little upbeat type of thing.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yes, it reminded me there was like a I felt
like it was it Dexy's Midnight Runners.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Come on, Eileen, yeah, come to it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it reminded me a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's just got a nice like float along but in
to it, which I think is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, and actually I think None Such Records was the label. Yes,
and this was before Yankee Hotel Fox Trot, So they
just switched labels because I think Yankee Hotel Fox Trot
was on.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
That came out right before this album.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, didn't they change record companies or.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Reprise dropped them.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Because they didn't think the album was going to do
well and it's Slade.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah okay, yeah, so Reprise this is the album release
refused to release you.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, so they they did it under none set, which
is think the crazy thing about that was that reprise
and none such are under the Warner Media Group, both
of them. Yeah, I think they pointed out how messed
up the recording industry is because they're literally under the
same blanket label. They got switched to between subsidiaries, well
and got fired by one and picked up by the other. Well,
and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot's a great album. Yeah, I mean
(22:38):
it critically did really really well and it's celebrated one
of the best of all time. So I mean it's
odd that, but it's just weird how the record industry works.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, and Ghost is born, as you know, a pretty
sharp departure.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Oh it is, yeah, yeah, I remember if a Yankee
Hotel fox Trot.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's definitely different. So maybe you need to listen to Yankee.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I'll of it, listen to it again. It's again, it's
been a long time I've heard. It is very different
from us.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
This one, I actually like. This is kind of one
of I like the song on the album it's called
a Handshake Drugs. It's got kind of that acoustic intro,
but it has a little bit more depth to it,
and this one's just kind of it has more lyrics
in it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
It's got great bass work, yeah, great bass work. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I like the progression moves along really nicely. It's got
a nice groove to it. Yes, it's got some nice
lead guitar work as well. I like how the lead
guitar just kind of accentuates the song's progression.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And I like the way that the progression fades into
the background at the end of the song as the
guitar feedback kind of takes the lead.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
It's a good song. I liked this one.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, trying to think is there anything else cool about
this album. It peaked at number eight on the Billboard
two hundred chart. On release international hit as well, it
was twenty four Norway, twenty nine in Sweden, thirty three
in New Zealand, thirty four and BELGSM thirty seven in Ireland,
(24:01):
and as of April thirteenth, two thousand and seven, it's
sold over their dred forty thousand copies, according to Nielsen
sound Scan in the US the US alone, yeah, so
pretty critically claimed.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I'd be interesting to see what the worldwide sales figures
are for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Here to the fact that it was a hit in
other countries well, and Billboard cided it as Wilco's most
difficult and uncompromising album to date, and I think that's
an accurate description based on your view of your limited listening. Yeah, yeah,
it is because you can tell that they did it
for them. They weren't doing this to be commercially successful, right,
(24:39):
They were doing this because they wanted to do well
and it was.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Going to reach out to a certain amount of certain crowd.
And again I respect that. Yeah, I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I mean, just put out something that you know
it's going to sell just because you know it's going
to sell well.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
And here's it's called being a shill. Well, and here's
what's interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Pitchfork, on the release of the album ranked it six
point six out of ten. Okay, that was in two
thousand and four, and this year they ranked in a
nine point four out of two.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Wow, it's obviously the opinion has changed over time.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, I think it grows on you the importance in
how people receive it. Right, So some albums kind of
catch a second win. I think they released a big
deluxe album set that a lot of stuff, so I think,
just gotcha.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You know some of this stuff you.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Hear in the background like Handshake Drugs. So the whole
album was kind of like this, but it had a
little bit more lyrics and maybe the song is a
little bit shorter, probably been good, But I think the
piece of art that they produced obviously was accepted in
the industry, and more so twenty years later.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Absolutely. All right, let's kind of let's move on to
side B.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Wishful Thinking is the seven track off the album clocks
in four minutes and forty one seconds.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You know. The one thing this album has a lot
of that of stuff in it.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I like the fade in after the fade out of
Handshake Drugs, you know, because it kind of fades out
at the end, and then this one fades in.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But the noise a lot of the noise, Yeah, well
I could kind of not That's what I don't like
about the album because if you look at the lead in,
it's just so long.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But it's like, but so is like Pink Floyd's.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The Wall it is, yeah, you know, Dark Side of
the Moon, similar type of stuff. Right, is kind of
and I have to get in moods to list of
those albums throughout right, and this is kind of what
I feel like some of that is, but the I
agree kind of the fade out fade in that, I
would say, well, they call it and not an intermis,
(26:45):
I guess an intermission.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
It seemed like there was sort of interlude interlude. Yeah,
are a segue.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I mean there's some little things going on in the
background between the vocals that are cool in this song.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
No, I'm sorry, that's that's another song. I'm looking at
the wrong line here and jeez, man, get it together,
you can go the next one.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Great bass work again. I love the ethereal pad and
how the bass just floats above the pad and drives
melody along. I think that's great. But yeah, man, good song.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So a track of the album is Company in My Back.
So this one's the real short one. It's fine, I guess,
I don't know really like this one. It's not really
a track stands out to me. There's again little things
going on in the background. Yeah, but it's just kind
of there for me. Well, and like you said, like
it's a good album when you're in the mood to
listen to it. I would agree with that opinion because.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You can't like if you for me, it's something in
the back. It's a vibe.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
If it's it's a vibe, and if you're not vibing
in that direction, then you're not gonna get it. Which
I didn't get it, but I think I could if
I come back to it again at the right time.
So yeah, all right, next one. This was the single, right,
I don't think it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think this was the one single they had on
the album. I'm a Wheel is the name of the track.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I don't know if they even had a singles yet,
now they had one. I think this was it. So
it's vocally very silly.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes, this is the Musically, it's fast pacing, weird. This
is the only single albums. I admittedly don't understand this
being a single.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's I think they had to release one, and it
was the shortest one.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
They didn't have a bunch of noise in it. It
still became the single.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
This isn't the strongest track to me. I actually think
you could do something like handshake Drugs and make that
your single.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And I mean, you know, this might be one of
the more upbeat songs on the album, but I would
say it's just not one of the stronger tracks on
the album.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
It's just kind of.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Again, nah yeah, moving on Theologians, Theologians, Theologians, Theologians.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So as we get to the tail end of this,
when Theologians clocks in at three minutes and thirty six seconds,
it's the tenth track.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I kind of like the shorter tracks.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
What do you think about this when compared to some
of the rest of them, kind of same vibe, like.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Eh, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, so I'm not a fan. No,
I didn't have much to say here.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I didn't really enjoy it, all right, just kind of okay,
So the eleventh track is less than you think it.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Is, except it's more than you think.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It is the length of a sitcom dude with dope commercials.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Fourteen minutes, good grief, dude. The lyrics are done by
the three minute mark, and then you got eleven minutes
of freaking noise.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well it doesn't need that, no.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Right, it's experimental so when you listen to it, right,
it all depends on like you gotta do it again.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's the vibe thing, and I did not pass the
vibe check on this album today.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, I mean, obviously, you know the industry responded to it,
gave it a Grammy. Right, I loved it, and it
still continues.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Subjective that music is.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And when you're in.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
A record store, people see you buy it. Oh yeah, man,
that's great.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So I think it's respected by a lot of people.
A lot of people like it, respect the album for
what it is. But it's gonna have a select fan base.
I mean, I think if you're if you're really genre like, you're,
your music taste ors to a specific Yeah, you gravitate
towards a couple of specific genres where you're highly concentrated.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yes, and then I'll have a smattering of things across
other genres that I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Right, But it's very selective of what you like, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But you know when you look at some of the
genres you're really drawn to based on And that's where
we have this Pearl Jam debate all the time. You
Donnie and I have this Pearl Jam debate. Donnie likes
just Pearl Jam for the jam band. I think Pearl
Jam aspect. I like Pearl Jam for three albums, and
(30:55):
you know, respect all their stuff that they did later,
but they're mostly a jam band now.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
But the what they did in that grunge air. But
that's where I was kind of grew up.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
And I liked Pearl Jams for who they were at
the time.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They were that, and then when they moved away from
being that and I also grew up, I found I
no longer enjoyed the music.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, like the first three albums I like about Pearl
Jam and it will Co I think has a similar
type of you know, I want to see Wilco live
and I've always missed the opportunity. But I've seen some
Vault live, right, so for me, but I want to
like hear some of the great songs, the Jam songs.
It seems like it'd be a good concert. But you know,
I don't think I would sit through a fifteen.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Fifteen minute song with like, yeah, thirteen minute, twelve.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Super duper guitar jams and everyone's dancing and you're in
that kind of line.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I did something really cool and maybe so yeah, all right,
let's move on to the last one.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
The Lake Greats is the last track off the album.
It's actually a little I like it as a closing.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
This one made me laugh. I like when you listen
to the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Basically, what they're saying is that I think turpentine is
an industry term for bands that can never like they
get off the ground, but they can't ever like, they're
never gonna get radio play, they're never gonna be signed,
They're stuck in turpentine. I think that's kind of what
they're getting at here. It's it's Willco's tribute to those
bands that are great, they have like, they have great songs,
(32:17):
they're great bands, but they just don't get any love
whatsoever from radio stations, the music industry, record labels, and
how nobody will ever hear them as a result of that.
I think this is a good song. It's a fun
tribute to great bands who will never be heard or signed.
It's simple, but lyrically it's the one song on the
album that really stuck out to me.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, and did you think after.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, Will Case like middle fingers, We're just
gonna do whatever we want exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think that's this is very much influenced by that,
but also like you can imagine them coming up in
Chicago with a lot of bands that were probably really
good but that nobody ever heard. Yeah, because they just
didn't catch a break, and I think a band like
Wilco is probably still very connected to the scene they
came from, and as a result, like wants to kind
of pay homage to those bands by saying, hey, listen,
(33:07):
we see you, we hear you. This is what you're
dealing with. It's a thing, and we're gonna let everybody
know it's a thing. Yeah. So I thought it was
a great song, honestly, Yeah, I liked it. I appreciated it,
all right.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
So the album holds a score of eighty one out
of one hundred from thirty three critics, and most recently
this year, Right In two twenty five reached a peak
position of eight on the Hungarian Physical Albums chart.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Okay, it's interesting, you know in hungry all right.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You know, I think I kind of struggle with it.
To me, it's not a ten, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I like the album.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I own the album, but I'm also a will Code fan,
right and I like a lot of their collection. And
I listened to this album a lot, but during the time,
and I have to be in the right mood to
listen to it. But a lot of the noise I
tend to drown out yeah, because I'm focused on the
groove sections I found when this is playing in the background,
it's mainly I use it in a busy like. This
(34:03):
isn't something you work out. I don't want work out
in the gym to it. I can drive to it
and I could do some work in the background. But
maybe it's some of that instrumental kind of helps, right,
But I don't think it's It's not a general I
think album.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
No, it's not something that you can just pop in
and listen to just about any time. Again, and how
you have to pass. Yeah, that vibe check that this
fits into the album just didn't really grab me.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Again, I had to do with the mood I think
that I was in at the time I listened to it.
It's a good enough album. I don't have a lot
of bad things to say about it, but I also
don't have a lot of great things to say about it.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, but it does it make you want to go
back and listen to Yankee Hotel Fox Trot.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I I'd more out of curiosity than anything else. Yeah, Yeah,
to see what they departed from to make this. I
gave this one a five, And it's not necessarily because
it's bad not gigging it, giving it an f like
a fifty percent. It's more just like, because I didn't
have anything bad to about it, but I also didn't
have anything great to say about it. I just landed
(35:03):
it right in the middle of that one to ten scale.
That's more the justification behind it than anything else. Yeah,
That's where I landed with it. I'm just kind of
ambivalent towards it. It's not like if somebody played it,
I wouldn't be like, oh jeez, I don't want to
hear that, and just be kind of like, okay, all right,
(35:23):
I'm excited, wouldn't be angry. I'd just be somewhere in between.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So, folks, I failed. I don't know if I'll ever
get out them to listen to Will co Ever again.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I'll listen to him again. I'll go listen to Yankee
Hotel Fox Trot again again. I think I listened to
it probably, oh she's fifteen years ago. Yeah, but I'll
go listen to it again, give it another shot. I
don't remember a single song off of it all. I'm
sure I probably will. I'm sure there will be one
that will Oh yeah, I remember that song like there'll
be one of those. But yeah, I'll give it a
shot again. I don't know that I'll give this album
(35:53):
another shot.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
M Okay, Well, it looks like the fight is still on.
The fight is still on. I will introduce Adam to
something outside his genre one of these days that I
will really really like. Maybe on the Hunter podcast. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I appreciate you trying. Hey, what are we going for next?
I had this weird thing about thinking about.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
The police, the Police. I don't know why the police
popped in my head, like synchronicity. I don't care pick
a police album.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I mean i'd probably picked synchronicity. You know, something with
a message in the bottom, bottle bottle, that message in the.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Bottom, message coming out of the bottom. Yeah, yeah, that's kinky. Yeah,
let's do synchronicity.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Man, synchronosity. Yeah yeah, I think we could prefer it.
Sounds like fun. Well, it's a kind of cool album.
And Sting is Sting.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, I mean they're an interesting band. Yeah, a ton
of history there. Sting went on to have a massive
career of his own. Stuart Copeland is genius.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
There's a lot of like stories.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Andy Summers is this great guitar player who was like
always trying to play the mediator, and as a result
he ended up like kind of this weird place.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Have you thought anymore about kind of the top five
for content episodes that were thinking about doing.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I haven't come up with any yet, but we also
haven't decided on a topic.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
M I was thinking. What I was thinking, We just
inner something in chat GPT. Whatever five songs it spits out.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh, okay, and we could know I will probably hate
four of those five songs.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Oh I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to be us
ripping on most of it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
But like we can make fun of chat GPT, but
what it's feelings you get hurt?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, I mean, like we could just pick you know,
what are the top relevant I don't know, Nirvana songs
that have to do with.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
We're going to get that specific you're thinking like top
five songs to go to the beach with or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
No, what, I think you could put anything in chat GPT,
but you pick a theme, okay, and then it spits
out five songs.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Let's not make it about a specific band though, Okay,
get about a topic.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, let's just ask chat situation the top five songs
and you just pick a situation and then what we'll
do is we'll put that in chat GPT.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
We'll open up the episode with that. Well, no song of.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
The week, no stump the baron, but it'll be really
short and basically the we'll generate the five songs, we'll
both listen to them, no, and we will exchange notes
on the episode, and then you got to pick. You
picked the question, I'll put it in, I'll run it
(38:31):
through chat GPT, okay, and then I'll spit it out
and then we will kick off. Since we'll be entering
our official third year wow of the podcast in July.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Entering year three. Man, that's crazy, we will kick off
year three and try to put out and.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Because I think we can stack those ah for sure,
you know, and we make them ten fifteen minute episodes.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I think that would be good.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I love the fact that you and I are talking
right now, pretending like this is just a normal conversation
for us and people aren't actually listening.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I think that's kind of how we structured the podcast right,
kind of is like a little bit we just talked,
but at the same time, like this is literally a
conversation you and I would just have without anybody around. Yeah, sure, sure,
but sometimes we do that. Sometimes we do that, hey,
and like that. It's just to be close. Another episode
of the Ventures in Vinyl. Uh if you like the
music featured on this episode, and I don't know why
(39:22):
the heck you would be honest, except for a couple
of songs. But you can get the links on the
episode's web page for more information on the band will Co.
They've got a website. It's ww dot willcostore dot com.
Apparently it's will Co stores. You can buy a bunch
of old will Co t shirts.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
They want you to buy things they don't care about
you like learning anything about them?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, you know, I think uh merch is kind of
the way they might mix money now you know, maybe
you know they don't make it on get streaming. I
don't think they make crap on stream. Have you seen
some of like the returns on streaming?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I have.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It's awful.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's pretty awful.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
If you enjoyed the podcast, be sure to check out
our website at www dot adventuresivityl dot com, where you
can find links our own episodes at there ow supports
sections you can find a place too, or to your
very own Adventures and Bottle t shirt Instagram at Adventures
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Speaker 3 (40:09):
And subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Leave a review Adams on Instagram at eat dot Prey
dot arm Bar, and myself at Todd David Warden with
that on Todd ward and we will see you next
time on yet a thrilling episode of Will Adam Listen
to Will.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Co also known as Adventures in Vinyl. I know, get
it right, Todd.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Oh sorry, We'll see you next time on another episode
Adventures in Vinyl. Let's be professional here. Sorry, actually we're
not professional.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Let's not be peru.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I think that's what makes it work is that we
really don't care. Now all we just talk forget professional.
I mean when I look at all these I'll just
not suck. Yeah, well, that's what we're trying to do,
is just not suck.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
There you go,
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