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July 14, 2023 • 31 mins
WIPE OUR KIDS CANCER, CEO, KRIS CUMNOCK shares the mission of WOKC to assist families and children affected by cancer by providing comfort, companionship, and funding for novel pediatric cancer to eradicate it forever. Through their research assistance children's ALL cancer survial rate has grown from 35% to 85%.
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Welcome to Advocacy in Motion. I'myour host, Tommy Finn, and if
you've seen the program in the past, you know that we're here to give
a vision and a voice to nonprofitorganizations and individuals making an impact in the
community. And before I introduce ourfirst guests, I want to say thank
you to our presenting sponsor, NiagaraConservation. If you don't know, Niagara
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important to the affordable housing projects theysupport, including the New Oaks Affordable housing
from the Volunteers of America in theOak Cliffe section of Dallas. So we
want to thank Niagara Conservation and youcan go to Niagara dot com to see

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all about their products and what they'redoing with affordable housing. So my first
guest today is an old friend.We've worked together for many, many years,
and I want to introduce Chris Komnach. Chris is the CEO of Wipe
Out Kids Cancer. So welcome,Thank you to have you here. It's
good to see you again. Itis. I'd mentioned for that. Your

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wife, Jill's the CEO of RonaldMcDonald House, and she was on the
program before and she made the commentshe said, we're glad to see Chris
come over to the bright side.So welcome to to nonprofit. I know
you have a history going back.We've worked together for years and you're one
of the founders of the Tom LandryClassic and the Tom Landry Scholarship Program.
Tell us a little bit about howthat came about and what you were doing
with the kids for that. Yeah, so twenty four years ago. I

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mean growing up in Dallas, obviouslyhuge Tom Landry fan, huge cowboy fan,
and working you know where we worked, you got to know the Landrys
really well and got to do severalthings with Tom before he passed. And
when he passed away, I justhe was my hero growing up and I

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wanted to do something to honor hisname. And so over a weekend,
I kind of sketched out an eventand it's three high school football games over
two days, and I went toTom Junior and Alicia Landry and I asked
him, if you know, cancan we do this can we call this

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the Tom Landry Classic, and we'regonna do scholarships and coaches name and I'd
like to do it for two yearsand see if we can raise twenty five
hundred dollars and scholarships. And sothey thought about it over, you know,
about a day, and came backand said, you know, we
didn't do a lot of endorsements whenDad was alive, but we think this
is something he would be proud ofand and we're gonna let you do it.

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And so the first year we didthree games all in one day,
and that was insane. That wasnot very smart. The second year happened
three days after four days after nineto eleven. But we did a Friday
game in two Saturday games, andwe raised well over twenty five hundred.
So I said, you know,let meet it for two more years,

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and we went back to we cutit from three ms to two games.
But you know, here in acouple of months, it'll be your number
twenty four. And we kind ofovershout that twenty five hundred were at one
point four million and many scholarships.Now that is terrific. I had the
opportunity to attend many of these scholarshipbanquets and you bring the young students up

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on stage and I'm always just soamazed that these kids are so smart that
I know it's not a it's athe scholarship is grant, it's they have
to earn it through several criteria,and I'm just amazed at what they've done
and how many scholarships you've given out. Tell us a little about how that

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scholarship works. So the scholarship program, it's open to anyone who participates in
the event of one of the fourparticipating schools. So if you're a football
player, cheerleader, band member,drill team member, mascot, if you
write for the school newspaper but youcover the game, you know, any

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if you're a student trainer, studentmanager, any of those kids are eligible.
And the three criteria we really lookat is you know, your your
leadership among your peers, your communityservice work, and your academic progress.
So we're not looking necessarily for akid who has straight a's, because not

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every not every kid is a straightA student, But if you're a if
you're a B plus student, andthat's that's your that's your ceiling. We
want you. We want you tobe at that B plus level. So
we really do a lot of backgroundresearch on on these kids and and how
they're performing, what they're like aroundtheir their peers, how much they're doing

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in their communities. And so thoseare the three criteria. So you can
you can be the star quarterback andyou're equal is likely to receive a scholarship
as the third string punter, andI mean and so you don't have to
be the band major. We reallythrow all of those those things out the

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window and we really focus on Oour three things, and we feel like
they're they're really three core things thatTom Landry was all about. And you
know, you and I were fortunateenough to grow up with Coach Landry.
These kids were not. But oneof the things that they have to do
is they have to write an essayon who Tom Landry was off the football

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field. So we really make themdo some research into Tom Landry the person,
the philanthropist, the father, thehusband and find out about him.
And by doing that, we're ableto pass his legacy on to a generation
that that, like I said,did not get to grow up with him.
That's true again here relationship with kidsand students. You evolved now into

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the CEO of Wipeout Kids Cancer.Still that dedication to you there and tell
us about Wipe Out Kids Cancer,about the history and the focus of the
of the mission. Sure, it'sa it's a forty three year old organization.
And so Cindy Brinker Simmons founded theorganization and she's still she's on our
executive committee today and and uh,you know, it's an organization. We

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really we have three areas that wefocus on. We focus on research,
novel research. So the way researchworks is if you're a scientist and you
have something that that you know,a study that you want to do that
can you know in the pediatric cancerspace, and you know, it's like

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everything else, it takes money todo that, and you go to the
someone like the National Cancer Institute andyou ask for money to start your research.
Well, you don't you don't haveanything proven yet, you don't have
any data, so they're they're notgoing to fund you. But but our
Science of Medical Research Committee, wedo a lot of looking into people that

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are that are doing things in thepediatric cancer space and we fund those things.
So we funded over eight million dollarsin research and once once that research
gets started, well, now you'vegot some some proving ground there. Now
you can go back to the largefunding groups and get funding. So the
eight million that we've funded has reallyturned into an additional twenty two million.

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And you know, our name isWipe out Kids Cancer. You know,
you're what we hope one day isyou know, cancer will always be in
everyone's body. It's in everyone's body. And whether it now it manifests itself
to become a problem or not,is you know another question. We hope
one day, if you are diagnosedwith a particular cancer, pediatric cancer,

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that they can give you a pillor a round of medicine that goes away.
But in the interim, the researchthat that we're helping to fund is
producing you know, better results,it's producing less than basive treatments, it's
producing shorter treatments, and so it'sdoing a lot right now to help kids.

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And so you know, hopefully oneday we find that that elusive you
know, sure if you will thatthat when when you're diagnosed with with one
of these or if you are thatthat we can provide something that you're going
to be okay. Other than theresearch which is fundamental there. I know
you guys are very involved with supportingthe families. Uh is A it's got

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to be a major part of that. And I see things of your Warrior
Families programs and stuff. Tell usa little bit about your reaction and how
you work with families of children withcancer. Sure, so as we you
know, there are four hospitals inDallas Fort Worth that treat kids with cancer.
There's Dallas Children's, Dallas Children's,Plano, Medical City, Dallas,

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and then Cook children over in FortWorth. And now there's Cooked Children's in
Prosper that's opened up. But thoseare the hospitals that treat pediatric cancer.
So when a child is diagnosed withcancer, they go really straight from the
oncologist to the hospital. It's notgo home, won't schedule you to go
to the hospital next week and plan. You don't have that opportunity to do

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that. This is typically comes reallyout of the blue. We've got some
of our families where we had ayoung man who runs track and his hip
hurt all the time, so theytook him to see if maybe he had
a torn labor and his hip andand you know he has bone cancer.
And we have another young man thatwas having headaches and plays football, so
they thought, well, let's goget an MRI to see if if maybe

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you had a concussion. Well youdidn't. He had brain cancer, and
so typically it's very out of theblue, unexpected. So when they're in
the hospital, you, like Isaid, you go straight to the hospital.
Your child's an hospital bed with tubesand things connected to them, and
the parents are their world is spinningaround like how did we get here?

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But they don't have anything with them. They came straight from a doctor's office
or an oncologist to the hospital.So one of the child life specialists will
then bring in a buddy bag.That's our that's our bag. It is
a canvas rolling suitcase and it containstwenty eight items carefully selected items for the
parents because they have nothing there withthem. It has a pillow, It

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has a blanket, has a waterbottle, It has a booklight, has
a Sdoku. It has a laundrycanvas laundry basket that they can collect the
clothes and when they get to gohome take take them home with them.
Has granola bars, has all theirtoy littary items for the kids. It

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has age appropriate entertainment items, butit also has a brand new iPad and
wireless headphones. And the reason wedo that is many of these kids are
immunocompromised, so they can't have visitors. But an iPad allows you to FaceTime
your friends and family. And iPadallows you to download your homework assignments and

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continue your school work. But italso allows you to download entertainments, so
when you are undergoing cancer treatments,you have some things to watch that hopefully
take your mind off of that.And but we've got, you know,
we've got other things in there.We've got you know, no one likes
the hospital socks, right, they'rethe worst, but we have we have

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bombas socks. They have the padson the bottom so they they're non slip,
but they're much more comfortable. Andwe provide hotel I mean not hotel,
but but dining gift cards for thehospital so that parents can go and
get get food. And Duncan providesa gift card so that they can maybe
stop on the way to the hospitaland get coffee and bagels or donuts and

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so that Buddy bags. We've gota lot of great stories that have come
from that. But those go toall of our warriors. That's what we
call our pediatric cancer kids. TheWarrior Family program that you alluded to is
we try to put these families togetherat events when we can, when they're

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between treatments in and now the hospital. It's really important to put particularly to
put parents together. You know,I can sit with these families all day,
and one thing I can't ever dois say I know what you're going
through, because I don't. FortunatelyI don't. But they you put them
together in a room, they knowexactly what each other are going through,

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and you can get a lot ofgreat information that maybe you don't get from
doctors. You know, if ifyou're a child and my child have a
same pediatric cancer or a similar pediatriccancer, but your journey started three months
before mine, there's a lot ofthings that you've seen that you can tell
me, Hey, I know thissounds bad, don't worry about this.

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You're gonna want to do this inpreparation for that. But and it allows
kids to be involved with other kids, and kids just want to be kids,
whether they have cancer or they don't. But some things that we do,
you know, sometimes we'll get we'lljust send a family to a Maverick
game in a suite or a Starsgame. And that's really valuable because you

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know, pediatric cancer doesn't happen ina vacuum. It really impacts the entire
family, siblings and all. Andso sometimes when we get an opportunity to
just take a family out for anight, but it gives them a chance
to be for a few hours awayfrom the pediatric cancer diagnosis, away from
treatments, away from the hospital,but together where they can be a family

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again. And those are believed thethree things, the Buddy Bag, the
Warrior Family Program, and the research. Those are the three things that we
do every day. Oh that's it'sgood to see see that happening. I
mean, see so much behind it. I want to take a little break
here and talk about one of ourother sponsors that makes all this possible.
That's when we come back. Iwant to talk about about partnerships. Nobody

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does this alone. And we havea very special video coming up from someone
that we know well, that actuallyknows about this. So you're in a
heartfelt way. So right now Iwant to thank Pranohn. It's this wonderful
little spiritual gift shop in downtown Richardson. If you go in Piranha means life
force or spirit. That's what you'llfind, very uplifting. You'll find art

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from local artists. You'll find freetrade merchandise, and on the fourth Saturday
of every month they hold a psychicfair on site. You can go to
Pranohaven dot com and get all theinformation about the merchandising. They have healers,
they have psychic readers, just acomplete variety of things you'll find there
that are very helpful and beneficial,and we want to thank them especially for

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their help with our show here andhelping us reach out to so many nonprofit
organizations. And by the way,if you go into the shop and you
see Alex tell her dad said highit is a family business. And if
you hear the baby, that's SkyElizabeth, So she'll be running the shop
soon. So we want to thankPrana Haven for their support and their continued

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support in the in the future.Partnerships. Nobody does this alone. I
know on your website you have severalpartners in there. How does that work
together with you guys? How doyou get your partners and what do they
contribute? Absolutely so you always Imean, this is the same for every
nonprofit. You know, all ofthe good work that we all do,

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I mean, every nonprofit out thereis doing tremendous work. But you know,
we can have the best intentions andthe best staffs and and and all
those things, but it costs moneyto do the things that we do.
So you're you're constantly looking for individualdonors or corporate donors or people that will
help you. And you know,we probably everyone has heard or seen about

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the Jersey Mike's Month of Giving duringthe month of March and the Day of
Giving. You see Peter can Crowand Danny DeVito on those commercials and they're
talking about that. And that programactually started with Wipeout Cancer Kids Cancer Here
in Dallas. We had one ofour supporters walked into a Jersey Mike's to

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get a sandwich thirteen years ago andthe shop wasn't open yet, but but
she taught to Dalton Stewart, whoowned the shop and he's the regional director,
and she said, well, ifyou guys ever you know, want
a nonprofit to partner with, Ithink Wipe Out Kids Cancer would be a
great partner of yours. And sothey got together a short time later and

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talked about doing a you know,a day of giving, and uh,
you know it's it's now they're they'redoing it nationwide, but it's you know,
during the month of March, youcan go into a Jersey Mikes and
round your bill up, or youcan make a donation anywhere in Dallas Fort
Worth seventy stores, and then onthe last Wednesday of the month, which

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was this year's March twenty ninth,every penny that was spending their store comes
to wipe out Kids Cancer. Soyou see a lot of businesses say,
you know, will donate ten percentof our proceeds or will donate sometimes our
proceeds for the day wipe out KidsCancer. I mean, Jersey Mikes donates
everything. So you go in andget a sub and some chips and a

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drink and you pay twelve dollars.Twelve dollars comes to us and they have
been an unbelievable partner for us.Automnation has been a tremendous partner of ours
through the years, Albert since TomThumb. Some of these are some great
companies that really and and many others, but these are some great companies that

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really understand you know what we're doingand the good that we're doing in the
community and for these kids. Andyou know, no one out there has
has not been impacted by cancer insome way in their family, but we
and cancers horrible and there's just noother way to put it. Um but

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cancer is particularly horrible when it impactskids. Kids should always just be able
to be kids and and grow upknowing that you know, I'm gonna chase
my dreams and I'm gonna I'm youknow, I've got my whole life ahead
of me, and so it justshouldn't impact kids, but it does.
And so you know, partners likethat and and and we've got so many

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great people that that support us.We need more, but we've got so
many great people that support us,and they understand that they understand these families
and these kids need our help.I know you about great people supporting you.
And we've got a video coming uppretty soon with somebody that we all
know. But you had a specialprogram part of this with the high schools,

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including Alan High schools, and somedonations or how that worked. Tell
us about that and how that workedout. Sure, So I started at
Wipe Out Kids Cancer on August thirtyfirst, and I was driving in to
the office that day and I knewI knew September was Pediatric Cancer Awareness Month,
and I said, you know,I'd really like to do something right
off the bat. And you know, by doing the Tom Landry Classic all

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the years that I did, youestablished some relationships of theirs. When I
got into the office, I calledsouth Lake Carroll High School and I called
Alan High School and I talked tothe people that are the the organizers of
their student councils, and I said, I would love for you guys to
compete against each other and a WipeoutKids Cancer the first annual Wipeout Kids Cancer

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charity challenge. And we went andmet with both of them and said,
you know, you have the wholemonth of September. You guys design the
things that you want to do.Each of them designed four or five things
that they wanted to do to raisemoney during September and just brilliant ideas.
And kids are so creative. Butyou wonder, okay, they're great ideas,

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can they implement them? While theydid, they implemented them, and
so they competed against each other.And so while that was going on.
So Luke laff I mean Babe Laffenbergthat we all know and love, former
Dallas Cowboys quarterback now and the Cowboysbroadcast every Sunday. I called Babe because
his son Luke had passed away acouple of years ago from pediatric cancer.

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And I told Babe, I said, and listen, we're doing this with
these high schools. I would loveto have the trophy be the Luke Laffenburg
Award, but I only want youto do it if you feel like it
would honor him. And so takesome time think about it, because I
don't want you to do it ifthere's one percent of you that has a
little bit of a red flag ora little reservation that I want you to

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say no. And so he tooka couple of days and came back and
said, you know what I do. I do think that would honor him,
and we want to do that.And so Alan won the first first
ever. Both schools did an amazingjob. And Babe, the video that
you're going to show, Babe didto play during an Alan pep rally where

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we went and presented the trophy.Babe was out of town, but he
did that video and it was shown, and you know that, and Alan
pep rally has a lot of energyin it and a lot of people and
you could have heard a pen dropwhen Babe is doing when this video was
played, and a lot of includingmine, a lot of eyes that were

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pretty watery at that point. Soyeah, we all know Babe and thank
the world of him. So let'ssee, uh, let's hear from Babe
now, and let's let's play thevideo and then we'll come back and talk
about a few other things. It'sgreat. Hello and good morning to all
the students and teach at Alan HighSchool. My name is Babe Laufenberg and
the award you're about to receive isthe inaugural Luke Laufenberg Award. Luke was

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my child, Luke is my child. Luke was diagnosed with Burkett's leukemia or
Burkett's lymphoma, which is a veryrare and aggressive cancer, at the age
of nineteen. Luke passed at theage of twenty one three years ago,
and I told him at the time, there is going to come a time
when a doctor is going to diagnosea child similar to you and say here's

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what you have, and you justneed to take these pills for a week
and you'll be just fine. Unfortunately, that day is not today, but
it is going to come at somepoint, hopefully in my lifetime and certainly
hopefully in your lifetime. But Ijust want to let you know that by
virtue of raising over fourteen thousand dollarsfor Wipe Out Kids Cancer, you're doing

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just that. You're helping in thefight against cancer, and you're helping kids
like my son, Luke. SoI just want to congratulate you on the
job you did. I always believethat a successful life includes serving others,
and by virtue of this fourteen thousanddollar donation to Wipe Out Kids Cancer,

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you have done just that. Somy hat's off to you. I thank
you, Luke. Thanks you.Now let's go ahead and win it again
next year. So again, congratulationson the inaugural Luke Laufenberg Award, and
go forward and serve others. Thankyou. Well, that was heartfelt from
Babe. We all know and lovehim. Tell us a little bit about

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some upcoming events. How can peopleget involved and how can they help out
with Wipeout Kids Cancer. Sure,well, you can get on our website.
It's it's www dot WOKC, solike Wipeout Kids Cancer www dot WOKC
dot org. And you can findout anything you want to know about us

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on our website. But there thereare opportunities there to volunteer, there's opportunities
to donate. Um. We dohave a run coming up later this month.
It's our annual five k and onek fun run. It's the run
for the kids, and it's atOak Point Park in Plain, Oh.
So you can go on our websiteand register to run or to walk or

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you know, and it's gonna bea it's gonna be a great morning because
aside from the run, we wantyou to stay for the after party.
And the after party is you know, it's it's free beverages, adult and
non adult beverages. In and out. Burger will be there grilling burgers.
And we have Party Machine, whichis an Emerald City band that will be

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there playing and and so it's gonnabe it's gonna be a great festive atmosphere.
There will be things to do therefor kids. You'll see our some
of our warriors and their parents outthere that we can honor. And but
you know, that's that's one thingthat we have coming up and um,
you know later in the year obviouslythere's North Texas Giving Day, which is

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big for all charities. But youknow, being the CEO Wipe Out Kids
Cancer, I would encourage people toto go to our website find out more
see if if this resonates with you, If it does on North Texas Giving
Day, if you're so inclined tomake a donation to us, we would
We would not only love to haveit, but we will make great use
of it in helping these kids andtheir families. That's that's terriffing. We

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help people do get involved. Wehave some no chair We've talked about several
things. What if I not askyou, what if we left out that
you would like for people to know? Well, I think you know,
there's there's no charity that we couldand you get you do a lot of
work with charities. There's no charitythat we could talk about and say,
well, that's not a great mission. We all have great missions. And

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you know, the thing that iswonderful about Dallas Fort Worth is there there
are so many people that are tryingto help people that need it, and
you know, I would just encouragepeople to just think, and if you've
got healthy kids, you know you'reyou're really blessed. But if you do
have if you do have kids andthey're healthy, just think for a minute

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what it would be like to betold to hear those words from an on
college is that your child has blankcancer. You know, fill in the
blank. I mean, there's manypediatric cancers. And not only that,
it's we have you need to leavehere and go straight to the hospital and
they're waiting for you, and they'lladmit your child today and we'll start well

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we'll start, you know this battle. I mean that is I like I
said earlier, it really comes outof the blue. But just put yourself
in those parents shoes for a minute, because it's not only there's so many
aspects and tentacles to this, becausenot only in it now do you have
a child with cancer and you knowyou need to be there at the hospital
with them. They're they're a child. But you know, you still have

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work, you still have potential othersiblings, You've got all these other things
in your life that you didn't geta week or two to plan out.
Who's going to bring him home fromschool, who's going to take him too,
who's going to pack lunches, who'sgoing to get him to soccer practice.
It's you've just been set down inthis pediatric cancer space and you've got

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to figure it out on the fly. And that's where that's where we help
out with this. But that's whatI always tell people, just I would
just encourage people. And you know, they say that a picture is worth
a thousand words, and I finallyI saw a picture the other day and
it's of a young man. He'sgotten he's eight years old, he's got

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a young child. He's got cancer. And when you know, when you
have cancer and you're going through radiation, you're going through chemotherapy, it makes
you sick, that's what it does. Makes you sick at your stomach.
And he is bending over a toilet, he's going to throw up. And
his little sister, who's several yearsyounger than him, she's standing there with
him. She's just patting him onthe back. And that picture really does

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say a thousand words, because,like I said a few moments ago,
this diagnosis impacts the entire family.You know, it's it's it's I hear
from parents all the time say,you know, I feel like I've neglected
our other kids because we're having tospend so much time with this child in
the hospital, and we're still havingto work, and we're still having to
do all these other things, andin those kids get kind of left out

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here just a little bit. Andso it's it's a really difficult hardship on
the entire family. And so ifthat resonates with you, I mean,
we everyone either you either have kids, or you've got niece's nephews, you
know somebody that has kids. Butif this resonates with you, we would

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love for you to get involved withus. We can use your help.
We want you on our team.And you know, your volunteer efforts,
your financial efforts, they will helpa lot of people. You can go
to bed at night if you're workingwith us, you can go to bed
at night knowing I made a differencetoday. I made somebody smile today,

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or I help somebody smile today whensmiles are pretty scarce. That is great,
And our timing is pretty good.We're talking about families and children and
Father's Day is coming up, andwe've seen our proms in the past.
We're part of the Play Catch Foundation. We encourage bonding with family members as
we did back in the day beforethe television and computers. And so every

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Father's Day is National Play Catch Week. So if you are blessed when you're
not in a tragic situation your children, get to know your children again,
get to get to bond with them, take a break from the from the
television or the computer, go outand whether you're playing catch, are just
going to the store or what wemight do. So we want you to

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celebrate the life of children, especiallythis Father's Day coming up. And if
you get a chance to go playCatch Foundation dot org and check out what
they're doing and how that can helpin the community. Well, I want
to thank you. I want tothank our sponsors Niagara for being here and
help and support us, and forParana Haven and Chris Kamnach for all you're

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doing and a wipe out kids cancer. Tell us one more time how people
can get in touch and how peoplecan help sure So you just go to
our website www dot WOKC dot org. Um you can, you can give
us a call. We'd happy tobe happy to meet you. We'd be
happy for you to come to ouroffices and and and just tell you more

(30:47):
about There's so many ways to getinvolved with us. We have a women's
guild that you can be involved in, you can be involved with our run,
you can be involved when in somany different aspects. And you know,
if you just say, hey,I want to I want to donate
money, I want to know how, I want to know you know,
when I make a donation, how'sthat going to help? You know?

(31:07):
Because a lot of people they don'twant to just write a check. They
want to know, tell me,tell me where this is going. I'll
be happy to personally walk you throughthat entire process. What our show is
entitled Advocacy and Motion for a reason, and we want people to get in
motion, to get involved with whateverorganization is near and dear to their heart,
wipe out kids, cancer, orwhatever's close by. So we do

(31:30):
want to encourage people to get involved. Thank you for all you're doing and
uh it's Tommy, thank you forcoming by. Absolutely great. Thank you,
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