September 16, 2025 • 42 mins
You're listening to American Ground Radio with Stephen Parr with Louis R. Avallone. This is the full show for September 15, 2025.
0:30 We tackle the national reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the troubling willingness of some to excuse or even celebrate political violence.
Plus, we cover the Top 3 Thing You Need to Know.
0:30 We tackle the national reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the troubling willingness of some to excuse or even celebrate political violence.
Plus, we cover the Top 3 Thing You Need to Know.
- Two Bossier City Police officers were shot over the weekend responding to a domestic violence call.
- The Democratic Party Headquarters in Baton Rouge was vandalized late last week.
- The Bribery Trial against former District Attorney Gary Haynes resumed today.
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13:30 We revisit a topic we've highlighted before: the power of prayer in times of national tragedy. Plus, Pastor Brad Jurkvich of First Baptist Bossier joins us in the studio.
23:00 We look into claims from Louisiana State Rep. Danny McCormick that Speaker Mike Johnson’s “weak leadership” is fracturing the GOP ahead of the 2026 midterms.
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Lewis, this is blown up completely. This whole issue, this
whole issue with regards to right and wrong in our nation.
It's not about left or right talking about and of
course I'm talking about the killing, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
It's not a left or right issue.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And it shouldn't be, should not be.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It should not be. And the more that I listen
to social media, the more that I hear all of
these voices, and it's ridiculousness, It is utter ridiculous. This,
This is not about democrats or Republicans. This is about
right and wrong, This is about good and evil. This
is about whether we as a people will still recognize
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that murder is not politics.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It is sin.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It is a direct affront not just to the laws
of man, but to the very law of God. You
know what I'm saying here in the Declaration of Independence
terms laws of nature and of Nature's God. Yes, this
is what governments are instituted for, is to prevent someone
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taking someone else's life. Our government's job is to secure
the right of life that was given to us by
the Creator.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
This isn't This isn't up for debate, debate, This is
not political. Should governments stop murder? Yes, that's why we
have governments in the first place.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Violence should not be a political tool.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
No, it is what I mean, it is especially but
if you're going to be calling people fascists and then
you adopt the behavior of fascists, because you know who
considered political violence perfectly acceptable, Malse tongue. Mussolini, he thought
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it was great. Stalin thought it was perfectly fine. Look,
Hitler would have the Hitler youth right, the Brownshirts. They
would go around and commit acts of violence so that
they could further their political agenda. If you're calling people
fascists and then you adopt the literal actions and behaviors
of literal fascists, what does that make.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You no a fascist? Maybe here's the thing, though, there's
too many people that are willing to excuse violence if
it comes from their side, the so called side that's right.
And if you first thought after the assassination of Charlie
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Kirk that it was about whether you agreed with him politically,
you've missed the point. This isn't about agreement. This is
about life and death. It's about right and wrong. It's
about whether our society still has a moral compass or
whether we've lost it entirely.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And the other thing that really bothers me about a
lot of this is that folks on the left who
are justifying the murder of Charlie Kirk Kirk are justifying
it because they say he was an awful man. And
the reasons they used to justify saying that he was
an awful man are not based on what Charlie Kirk
actually did or said. They are based upon what other
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people said Charlie Kirk did or said.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Or worse.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Snippets, small, small, pieces of text taken out of context.
We've said on the show before. If you take the
text out of context, all you're left with is Khan
saying that Charlie Kirk was a racist because one time
he said something that sounded somewhat racist. You stopped the
clip too soon. Listen to the entire thing he was saying.
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Charlie Kirk did not have hate for people in his
heart based on race, even based on transgender ideology. He
was opposed to transgender ideology. He did not hate people
who were caught in that confusion. So you say Charlie
Kirk's got hated in his heart. The only way you
can believe that is if you didn't actually listen to
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what he actually said.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But whether you adored him or you despised him, I mean,
he was an American who was dedicated, who dedicated his
life to ideas and to debate and free speech. Yes,
but here's the other part.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And again, if you thought that what he was saying
was racist, the solution wasn't to shoot him. No, it
was to prove him wrong. That's what he asked you
to do. Prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But if you loathed everything he stood for, right, you
should still be able to say that murder is wrong. Absolutely,
because free people cannot tolerate assassination as a substitute for argument.
I mean, this is the very essence of the First Amendment.
If we must fear for our lives whenever we speak,
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then we are no longer free. And the Streeport City Council,
for example, you only had two members of the city
council who could agree to make a statement, a joint statement,
that murder was wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
And the statement they put out wasn't a partisan statement.
It was simply, we must agree that you have a
right to free speech and that I will defend your
right to free speech. That was essentially the statement that
they put out. And they could not get a single
member of the Democrat Party who is a city council
member to sign on to that very basic no, very exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And when they refuse anyone, I don't care who you are,
but especially if you're an elected leader, you have a
greater responsibility I believe to be to be honorable.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But whoever, if you're in elected office, a lot of
times we give you the title of honorable, the honorable right.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Certainly, that's certainly true, and.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Just because we've given you the title, doesn't mean you've
behaved in that way.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But all I'm trying to say here is is that
if you refuse to mourn a man who was assassinated
for speech, for his free speech, you're justifying evil. And
the scripture says woe to them. I mean, this is
not of God. Indifference to murder is not of God.
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Excusing violence is not of God. Celebrating murder silence, silence
in the face of evil is not of God. And
every single council member in Shreveport, every every elected official
in the state of Louisiana should be standing together, side
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by side and saying this, this is evil. That would
have been leadership, that would have been courage. Instead, you've
got some folks that are staying silent and rather than
defend even the most basic principle that murder is wrong.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's amazing that when you look at so called leaders
on the left, there are two that come to mind
that have actually taken a little bit of a stand
here that is justified. One is Senator Fetterman out of Pennsylvania,
and the other is Bill Maher. These two guys are
now further to the right than the entire rest of
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the Democrat Party. How did that happen? How did that happen?
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
The deeper concern I believe is when did it become
socially or morally acceptable to just kind of shrug your
shoulders at violence at victims of violence.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It never became morally acceptable.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
How did we all become qualified to start deciding when
murder victims had it coming or when they didn't. You
know what I'm saying, I.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Do, I do, And that's a that's a real problem.
And again, if we had someone on the left who
was going to college campuses and saying, prove me wrong,
I think abortions should be a right, and they were
willing to listen to other arguments, and then that person
was shot down, the folks on the right should be wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, No,
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murder is wrong. Even though I disagree with this guy
and he was advocating that the murder of babies, I
still don't think murdering that guy was right.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Can we just agree that violence is never justified and
that righteousness, not partisanship, must be our guiding star.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Let's get to the top of the things you need
to know before tomorrow. First, you need no before marrow.
Two bosh of City police officers were shot over the
week and responding to a domestic violence call. It happened
at the Velagio Apartments when the SWAT team was called
in after reports that a man and his wife are
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barricaded inside an apartment. As the officers tried to enter
the apartment, the two officers were shot. The suspect also
shot himself and his wife, killing her. The officers were
taken to the hospital with non life threatening injuries. The
suspect is in critical condition.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know, it's a another very unform situation that goes
on every single day.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Right right, and we've got to remember that our law
enforcement officers are putting themselves in harm's way for us
and even for people who don't necessarily want them to.
They're they're they're taking that risk for our society. Second thing,
you need know before a while, the Democrat Party Headquars
and Baton Rouge was vandalized late last week. Someone spray
painted the word murderers in red paint on the sidewalk
in front of the office's parking lot. The incident occurred
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after the murder of conservative Christian Charlie Kirk. It was
posted and was posted by the Democrat Party to their
social media pages. Louisiana Democratic Party Executive director Didarius Lanis
responded to the vandalism by saying, our job is as
Democrats and also head of Louisiana Democratic Party, is to
remain vigilant at this time and continue to push for
unity and justice across our entire country and of course
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our entire state.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, I hate to say it's a little late
the Democrat Party to push for unity. Well, but I mean,
I guess at the same token, I guess it's not
okay to spray paint murderer on the sidewalk in front. Absolutely,
and by the way, the State eight Republican Party of
Louisiana denounced such fashion, such vandalism, and the.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Third thing you know before while the bribery trial against
former District Attorney Gary Haines resumed today. Gary Haines is
the longtime prosecutor for the fifteenth Judicial District pre trial
diversion program. Haines is accused of soliciting bribes from companies
that participated in that program in order to send offenders
to their businesses. Jurors have been hearing recorded conversations between
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Haines and those businessmen who have pled guilty already and
are cooperating with prosecutors. What do you think about that
you are put in a position of public trusts. If
you violated that public trust, not only should you be
removed from office, but you should be prosecuted to the
fullest extent of the law. We cannot trust our government
if it's filled with untrusted worthy people. We've got more
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American ground radio coming up. Stick around, We'll be right
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Speaker 4 (13:12):
Welcome back to American Ground Radium, Stephen Palmer, Lewis Sar
And of course we've talked on the show many times
about the power of prayer.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know, it wasn't that long ago we talked about
the power of prayer with respect to the Annunciation Catholic
Church in Minneapolis, right where you had another school shooting,
school shooting, right, a transgender motivated school shooting again. And
if you remember Jensaki at the time, I mean, this
just seems like a lifetime ago, but it was just
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a couple of weeks ago actually. But you remember Jensaki said,
you know, she's the former Biden press secretary turned MSNBC
talking head, right, she had the goal to say it
plainly enough, Prayer, she said, is not enough. Of course,
we could go on and on and on about that,
but you know, we may have a very special guest
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in studio who may know that a little bit more
about this't all bad more than we do. Joining us
now in studio, Pastor Brad Djerkovic, Welcome back to American
Ground Radio. Thank you so much for spending some time
with us here in studio.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So good to be with you guys. It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You have certainly spent some time in prayer. When people
say that that their prayer is not enough, what's your
answer to that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, they need to start praying more. I'm telling you
God is good and he wants us to pray to
him and seek to him, and he answers, he moves,
and I'm a living testimony of that. I know you
guys are as well. Absolutely, and you.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Guys are actually focusing on that. You've got a night
of prayer, remembering Charlie Kirk. This is coming up tomorrow
night six point thirty at Freedom Fields in Bojer For
folks that aren't familiar with Freedom Fields, Can you tell
us where this is going to be?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, So First Baptist Boser is on East Texas Street
there in Bosuer City and Freedom Fields is our sports complex.
This is right next to First Bosure where do flight football,
out soccer outreach special events just like this.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
So it's going to be a big event, you think, Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I mean, obviously what you see happening around the country.
I mean, these vigils are happening everywhere. They might expect
one hundred and a thousand show up, you know. So
we don't know, but clearly there's a lot of interest
and just a need, a desire to say we need
to get together as a community and pray.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
What gave you the impetus to actually call this? What
made you say, you know what, we need to do
this in Bosure?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, I was talking to a pastor friend of mine
who is in Treuport and I'm enbosued, and he said,
Pastor Brad, you know you've got the facilities, You've got
a place right there. Why can't we do this? I said,
you know, I've been thinking about that myself. We just
need to do it. And it's amazing. We've put this
out there and I shared it with our church yesterday
morning and it's just kind of taken off. I mean,
everybody's like, we want to be there.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Are you concerned that some in your congregation may consider
this to be political and they may feel that that
political view doesn't represent them. Do you feel like that
they might feel like politics has come into the church
and that's not why they signed up.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, there's definitely a sentiment out there in the Christian community.
But at first, Bosu're at least with my coregation when
I was sharing with him about Charlie, who I met
he and Erica four and a half years ago and
met them and we've done some things together. But the
bottom line is his faith in Christ has been so strong,
so clear that people realize hits his faith that fueled
his involvement on the political landscape and these issues. And
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when they see a man of faith get gunned down
and murdered, it shakes him and says, you know what,
this is way beyond some political argument. This is a
man who followed Christ. And honestly, they're using the term
Christian martyr at this point.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
They are, and really I think the first Christian martyr
in my lifetime. Folks, you can go back to MLK
people say you're Christian martyr for there. But this has
really been a big deal and there have been a
lot of people that have been affected by Did you
see that in your church this weekend with new people
coming in because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, there's no question there were people that came. They
knew kind of like after nine to eleven people went
to church. But what you are seeing this is very
personal to them and that it's their faith. They know
he was gunned down because of what he was preaching
and standing, and so the Christian community is going, wait
a minute, that's that's what I believe, that's what I'm about,
and we need to pray. So definitely we had more
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people way engaged yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
But does it does it bother you? And how do
you explain it when there's friends of yours that are
are Christian, that are very good Christian church going people.
Maybe they don't go to First Baptist Bosure, but you
know them, and yet they have no empathy, they have
no compassion. They it's not that they necessarily are celebrating it,
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but it's kind of like, you know, the word that's
often used is karma, is that he got what he deserved.
How do you how do you square that when you're like,
you're a you're a good Christian person and yet but
you're preaching karma.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I don't understand that. I got to be honest
with you. I think if you're born again, a child
of God, you know the grace of God. You've got
to have the empathy and understand and say, man, this
is a brother in Christ and he's been preaching Christ.
I mean literally, that has been his main mission. And yes,
he has impacted the culture and wanted to be a
force for that, and so whatever filter they have with that,
that's got to be stripped aside. And I do think,
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especially this younger generation, I think you can ignore the
fact that God used him thirty one years of age,
in that short amount of time to literally ignite young people,
young people that a lot of people in our age,
they're sitting there, young people write them off, they're not engaged.
No way, man. God used Charlie Kirk to not only
ignite that flame, and now, like his wife said the
other night, it's going to explode even more. Yeah, and
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I think people are blown away by that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
We're talking with Pastor Brad Yerkevic with First Baptist Bosure.
One of the things my wife and I were talking
about when we saw this thirty one years old. You
brought that up. Jesus was just thirty three. What a
huge impact at a young age that Charlie Kirk was
able to have.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, that's why I say we cannot write off the
younger generation if you'll challenge them. And this is what
I think is so important with Charlie Kirk. He called
things straight. He said, this is what God said about marriage, family, life,
all of it. And he spoke plainly and clearly to
the younger generation. They're looking for that equipments meaning around
this deal. And that's what bothers me as a pastor.
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When I see Charlie Kirk at thirty one being more
bold with his faith in getting the culture than many
pastors are, that is sad. And he's been using that
to stir this younger generation. That's what you're seeing today.
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Now you've got several folks coming to help you out
with this project. Corey Smith with Heritage Baptists right here
in treport. Is that the pastor that you started talking
about with.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, Yeah, we were talking the other day and he's
just been a great brother who has seen the value
of standing for Christ but also being engaged in the culture.
He sees it, he values it.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
We've got Abigail Dejarnett with counter Act USA. What's what's
Counteract USA all about.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Great, great organization that is very similar to like TPUSA.
So she has done events with Charlie Kirk and was
just what's amazing. She's out in northwest Arkansas and she
was in Korea with Charlie a week ago at that
huge conference that they were doing. She comes back. Obviously,
what happens to Charlie, It's tragic. And so but I said, hey,
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you just did a vigil last night in northwest Arkansas.
Why don't you come to northwestern Louisiana. So she's coming
and we're excided about that. And then also our our
friend Moon Griffon. Everybody knows Moon, he's coming up. How'd
you get Moon up here? He's awesome?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I just text her. I said, brother, we're about to
do this. Man, we'd love to have you. He said,
you know what I'm in. Let's go. I mean, he's
just an awesome brother.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, And that's how Moon is. He is you say, hey,
you want to do this thing, He's like, you know
what I'm in.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
He's a real deal. And so we're excited. Tomorrow night,
six thirty Freedom Fields, Bring a flag, break and candle,
bring your phone. We're gonna sing, We're gonna pray, We're
gonna share. It's going to be a powerful time for
our community.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
What do you think that prayer is going to accomplish?
Because we started this whole thing off with Jensaki saying
prayers not enough. You're holding a prayer visual, a night
of prayer, remembering Charlie Kirk. What do you think that
prayer is going to accomplish?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know, in tragic moments, it brings you to your knees,
you cry out to God, and I'm telling you, God
brings healing. God gives you hope, He gives you strength,
and especially when you're standing with other brothers and sisters
around and say, you know what, we're not alone. Evil
is real, but God is greater and we're going to
get through this.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And for folks that have seen what Charlie Kirk went
through and they've said, you know what, I think for
the first time, I need to go to church. What's
your message to those people.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I think this is a great moment to do that.
There are some great Bible believing churches around. Go to one,
meet with God, strengthen your faith, find faith in Christ.
All of that, God's going to use all this I'm
telling you to see millions turn to Jesus.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I think we're already seeing that. Yeah, Okay, Night of Prayer,
remembering Charlie Kirk six point thirty Tomorrow night, Tuesday Night,
Freedom Field's gonna have Mungrafan Abigail and Pastor Corey Smith,
along with Pastor Brad Yerkovic joining us. Thank you so
much for spending some time with us year in the studio.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I appreciate what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
We appreciate your service to the people of northwest Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Bet love you guys.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
We'll be at Back to more American ground radio. Stick around,
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Speaker 3 (23:00):
Representative Danny McCormick is coming after Mike Johnson again again.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And why they released a whole bunch of fscy stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
He writes that he is becoming increasingly alarmed by Speaker
Johnson's weak leadership. This is beyond just talking about leadership,
he says, I am becoming increasingly alarmed by Speaker Mike
Johnson's week leadership, which threatens to fracture the Republican Party
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and jeopardize our House majority in the twenty twenty six
mid terms.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I'm sorry, his week leadership is what's threatening to fracture
the Republican Party. If it hadn't been for Mike Johnson's
incredibly strong leadership, the Republican Party would have already fractured
by now, and it almost did. Remember Marjorie Taylor Green
called for a vote of no confidence against Mike Johnson.
He had to wrangle that the party did fracture under
Kevin McCarthy, and we went through vote after vote after
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vote to get to a speaker. It took what two
weeks to finally get to a speaker, and that was
Mike Johnson. And the entire Republican Party in the House
was able to rally around Mike Johnson, and since then
he has kept together the coalition, passing Donald Trump's One
Big Beautiful Bill and other Donald Trump Agenda items with
one of the smallest majorities in the American history. And
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he's done that with the opposition of Thomas Massey, who
is in the Republican Party. I guess, in name only,
what kind of how much stronger leadership can you be
asking for? So?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Representative McCormick, speaking of Thomas Massey. Representative McCormick said that
Mike Johnson's refusal to support Congressman Thomas Massey's discharge petition
to release the Jeffrey Epstein files and his decision to
adjourn Congress early to avoid a vote on this critical
(24:57):
issue signal a troubling life of courage.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Except that last week there's a whole bunch of Epstein
files that were released. Do you remember that. I know,
it got drowned out by all the other news, the
stabbing in Carolina, the shooting of Charlie Kirk. There was
a whole bunch of other news that covered this up.
But there were Epstein files released last week. Did Danny
McCormick miss that? Because one of the files that got
released was a so called birthday card from Donald Trump
(25:24):
to Jeffrey Epstein that signature analysts have said was not
Donald Trump's signature. So one of the things that we
got released because Danny McCormick's been demanding it was a
forged document designed to make Donald Trump look like a pedophile?
Is that what Danny McCormick wanted.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
But first of all, let's understand what the speaker's job
really is. The speaker isn't just a firebrand no with
a megaphone. He's not a talk radio.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Host like you are on although he's got an amazing voice,
he could do it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oh he does have a podcast, Okay, But I mean
he's not there just to blast away at the opposition. No,
he is there to move forward the agenda of the
Conservative Party. He's got to manage two hundred and some
odd Republicans, each with their own egos, and with each
with their own districts, each with their own agendas.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And because Democrats aren't as likely to think for themselves
as the Conservatives are, it's much easier to get Democrats
to fall in line. You threaten to call them racists,
and they're like, oh, I don't want that, I'll just
vote for whatever you want. But Conservatives have minds of
their own, as Danny McCormick is showing, and so trying
to get conservatives Republicans to do what it is you
want is like herding cats. Trying to get democrats what
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to do what you want. That's just simply just asking
people to line up, and they do. But on the
Republican side, they all have minds of their own and
they've all got their own agendas, and they're all heading
in three thousand different directions. It's like herding cats. It's
a much more difficult Mike Johnson's job is so much
more difficult than Nancy Pelosi's job was because of the
nature of the mind of conservatives versus the nature of
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the mind of leftists.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And here's the other part. You know, for any one
to say that Mike Johnson has a lack of courage,
why this is? This is a man who stood tall
when the left came after him on social issues, when
they smeared him for his faith, when they tried to
cancel him for defending traditional values. Did he fold? No,
(27:19):
He kept speaking the truth. He said, if you want
to know what my political views are, read your Bible.
That is not a man that is weak on leadership
or lacking encourage. And I do not understand why this.
Louisiana lawmaker who claims he's not trying to run against
Mike Johnson continues to attack him.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I don't understand it. What what are you trying to accomplish?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean the Epstein files at this point, because when
you when you lead with that, I'm becoming increasingly alarmed
by Speaker Mike Johnson's weak leadership.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yes, that's that's that's that's just about the Epstein files.
That's that's everything. And we've asked Representative McCormick on this show,
what are you trying to accomplish? And we did not
get a clear answer on that. Well, he said, but
he said, he's not running against.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
This is his congressman. Yes, and if he can't disagree
with his congressman, who can he disagree with?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Well, you're welcome to disagree with him, But you're putting
out public statements. And one of the I wish people
would get this down. One of the points of conversation,
one of the points of communication, especially public communication, is
you are trying to accomplish something. There needs to be
a purpose behind your words, otherwise you're just spitting idle gossip.
So if there's not purpose behind your words, then what
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are you doing. If you just wanted to say, well
I disagree with my congressman, great, you can write him
a letter. That's not what you're doing. You're going out
in public as an elected representative. And he puts Danny
McCormick State Rep. On there. You're going out into public
as an elective representative saying our other elected representative is
doing it wrong. Okay, So what are you trying tolish?
(29:00):
Because you say you're not running for his seat. I
would understand this if you were trying to beat Mike
Johnson for the congressional district. Dan McCormick says, clearly he's
not running against Mike Johnson.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
He says he doesn't know anyone that is planning to
run kil Then what are.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You trying to accomplish? You just want to You just
want to cause division within the Republican Party. You want
to cause division within Mike Johnson's home district. I mean,
talk about causing division within the Republican Party. One of
you is saying we all got to stick together, and
the other one's saying we've got a bad leader. Which
one of you is causing division?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Well, no, and again, real leadership, real leadership is about results.
It's about holding your team together. It's about saying no
to the things that feel good in the moment but
will blow up in the long term mission and john
the Speaker, Johnson is doing just that.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
He's moving the ball forward with a very small majority
in both the House and the Senate. You've got to
be playing old style Chicago Bears football for your yards
and a pile of dirt.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
We can't go for the long bomb because we don't
have the numbers to make it happen. Even if you
get it through the House, it won't get through the Senate.
You've only got four yards and a pile of dirt.
And then you hike the ball again and you go
four yards and a pile of dirt. That's what Mike
Johnson's doing. He's not going to be able to land
the long bombs. So if you're complaining that he's not
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going for broke, you don't understand the politics of Washington
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And not only is he trying to manage the two
hundred and some odd Republicans in the House, but he's
also having to navigate Democrats who want nothing more than
to destroy him.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
There's never been a more obstinate party in American history
since the Civil War, which, by the way, those also
the Democrats. But there's never been a party that has
been less cooperative than this Democrat party. In the House,
and again, to give you an example, Mike Johnson was
going to allow prayer over Charlie Kirk in the House.
(31:07):
A Republican asks, hey, can we pray? Lauren bob it right,
She asked, can we pray out loud over Charlie Kirk?
And the Democrats yelled no. They yelled no that they
yelled opposition to prayer in the House of Representatives. They
booed the idea you think that party is going to
(31:28):
help you move forward Trump's agenda any way, shape or form. So,
Danny McCormick, if you're trying to create, if you're trying
to create problems for Mike Johnson, you're doing it. If
you're trying to help move the conservative cause forward four
yards in a pile of dirt, you're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And he would argue, I should be free to disagree.
You're free to disagreement. You're free to disagree with your congressman.
Are you doing in a way that's constructive or destructive.
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Speaker 3 (33:16):
Is irresponsible for Democrats for Republicans to say some of
the incendiary things that are being said. Okay, not about
Charlie Kirk. This is. This is an article written by
Dustin Granger. We've had him on the show before. He's
a Democrat. He ran for state treasurer a couple of times,
(33:41):
and he's got an email list and he sends out
messages that he's writing to. I guess folks who have
followed him or have been supporters of his candidacy. And
this latest one that I was reading says the Louisiana
the set up colon, the Louisiana GOP plot to kill
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the Voting Rights Act. Now there's a plot, right, See
words have meaning? Yeah, So he describes the Republican the
Louisiana Republican plot to kill the Voting Rights Act. Now
I read through all of this and it is complete nonsense.
There's nothing in here that actually establishes how Louisiana Republicans
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are trying to kill the Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
What No, Jeff Landry is definitely trying to kill the
Voting Rights Act. Is not the whole voting right now. No, no,
not the whole Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
They are trying to kill the part of the Voting
Rights Act that says you have to redraw districts based
on race because that part is incompatible with the Constitutional
that's the whole point. But they're trying to stop that
part of the Voting Rights That's actually what's up for
debate within the Supreme Court coming up in October.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Well, first of all, the Voting Rights Act is a
federal law. Yeah, so Louisiana Republicans trying to kill a
federal law. Nobody in Baton Rouge can just kill it.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
No, That's why Jeff Landry had to go through the
charade of creating the Second Congressional District, which was an abomination.
He had to create something that was so bad that
it would force the Supreme Court to go should we
continue doing this?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Okay? But the Voting Rights Act in and of itself
is not unconstitutional.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Not the whole Voting Rights Act. Then the Republicans aren't
trying to kill the whole Voting Rights Act. They are
trying to take down the part of the Voting Rights
Act that says you have to redistrict based on race,
the part of the Voting Rights Act that requires minority
majority districts. And really what they're trying to do is
take down the Supreme Court's previous interpretation of the Voting
Rights Act that demanded minority majority districts.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
But then he goes on to say, now that black
voters have begun rebuilding real influence, the GOP is trying
to take it all back.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
No, voters actually started gaining some real influence when they
stopped voting blindly for the Democrat Party and started loud
voters who voted for Donald Trump. Or a big reason
why Donald Trump's back in the White House. Black voters
voting for Donald Trump is why he's forty five and
forty seven.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Okay, but my point here is the headline of this story, Yes,
is the Louisiana Republican plot to kill the Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I think that's inaccurate, but I don't think it's wrong.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I do think there was a way you can't.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I don't think it's let me change.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
It's imprecise.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
It's like being pregnant. Yeah, you can't be a little
bit pregnant.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
It's imprecise. You're accurate or you're not. They're not trying
to take down the whole Voting Rights Act. They are
trying to change the way that the Voting Rights Act
is interpreted by the Supreme Court. So it does no
longer require majority minority district.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
They're trying to make sure the district maps follow the Constitution.
The left doesn't want fair maps, right, they want jerry
mandarin maps that guarantee Democrats under the guise of civil rights.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
That's right. But that's all based off of the interpretation
of the Voting Rights Act in the courts. And yes,
there is a Republican plot in the state of Louisiana.
And I believe Jeff Landry have this plot from the
day he walked into office. We're gonna draw district that
is so egregiously bad that it forces the Supreme Court
to change the way they've interpreted the Voting Rights Act. Now,
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are they trying to take down the entire Voting Rights Act?
Absolutely not, And it is it's a very long phrase
to fit into a headline saying there's a Republican plot
to change the way the courts interpret the Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, But when you put it this way, yes, then
all Republicans are what they're evil? Well, I get they're evil.
They're trying to marginalize people of color.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Unless the way that the Voting Rights Act was interpret
is racist. And if there's a Republican plot to take
down the way the Voting Rights Act is interpreted. Then
it's not that Republicans are racist, that that the Democrats
are that have been racist, and Republicans are trying to
end racism in voting. That's a good thing, but.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
This sort of language, and I guess in the wake
of what happened in Utah, yes, I think we need
to be more mindful that we're talking more about ideas,
debating the merits of a policy, rather than demonizing one another,
rather than dividing one another with sensationalism.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I absolutely agree with that that the way that that's
written was designed to be inflammatory, and it was imprecise,
which makes it slightly incorrect. At the same time, yes,
Republicans are trying to eliminate minority majority districts because they're
racists their race. If you're judging people based on the
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color of their skin, that's called racism. And if we've
got racism built, the left is like, oh, there's institutional racism. Yes,
there is. We have institutional racism in our government that
gives black candidates more power than white candidates because our
interpretation of the Voting Rights Act requires.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Racism and By the way, I think Democrats are killing
the spirit of the Act every time they oppose voter
id laws. I agree too, because the right to vote
means nothing if elections are corrupted by fraud. But the
Democrats fight tooth and nail against the simplest, most common
sense protection, and that is proving who you say you are.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
So I don't really think it's about one person, one vote.
I think the left is like, how can we rack
up as much power through voting laws as we possibly can?
So I think their interpretation of is all disingenuous. And
then when they call us a racist, well I know
it is that.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
The Voting Rights Act was meant to guarantee equality at
the ballot box. And does jerry mandered congressional districts do that.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Lewis, this is blown up completely. This whole issue, this
whole issue with regards to right and wrong in our nation.
It's not about left or right talking about and of
course I'm talking about the killing, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
It's not a left or right issue.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And it shouldn't be, should not be.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It should not be. And the more that I listen
to social media, the more that I hear all of
these voices, and it's ridiculousness, It is utter ridiculous. This,
This is not about democrats or Republicans. This is about
right and wrong, This is about good and evil. This
is about whether we as a people will still recognize
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that murder is not politics.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It is sin.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It is a direct affront not just to the laws
of man, but to the very law of God. You
know what I'm saying here in the Declaration of Independence
terms laws of nature and of Nature's God. Yes, this
is what governments are instituted for, is to prevent someone
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taking someone else's life. Our government's job is to secure
the right of life that was given to us by
the Creator.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
This isn't This isn't up for debate, debate, This is
not political. Should governments stop murder? Yes, that's why we
have governments in the first place.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Violence should not be a political tool.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
No, it is what I mean, it is especially but
if you're going to be calling people fascists and then
you adopt the behavior of fascists, because you know who
considered political violence perfectly acceptable, Malse tongue. Mussolini, he thought
(02:54):
it was great. Stalin thought it was perfectly fine. Look,
Hitler would have the Hitler youth right, the Brownshirts. They
would go around and commit acts of violence so that
they could further their political agenda. If you're calling people
fascists and then you adopt the literal actions and behaviors
of literal fascists, what does that make.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You no a fascist? Maybe here's the thing, though, there's
too many people that are willing to excuse violence if
it comes from their side, the so called side that's right.
And if you first thought after the assassination of Charlie
(03:37):
Kirk that it was about whether you agreed with him politically,
you've missed the point. This isn't about agreement. This is
about life and death. It's about right and wrong. It's
about whether our society still has a moral compass or
whether we've lost it entirely.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And the other thing that really bothers me about a
lot of this is that folks on the left who
are justifying the murder of Charlie Kirk Kirk are justifying
it because they say he was an awful man. And
the reasons they used to justify saying that he was
an awful man are not based on what Charlie Kirk
actually did or said. They are based upon what other
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people said Charlie Kirk did or said.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Or worse.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Snippets, small, small, pieces of text taken out of context.
We've said on the show before. If you take the
text out of context, all you're left with is Khan
saying that Charlie Kirk was a racist because one time
he said something that sounded somewhat racist. You stopped the
clip too soon. Listen to the entire thing he was saying.
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Charlie Kirk did not have hate for people in his
heart based on race, even based on transgender ideology. He
was opposed to transgender ideology. He did not hate people
who were caught in that confusion. So you say Charlie
Kirk's got hated in his heart. The only way you
can believe that is if you didn't actually listen to
(04:59):
what he actually said.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But whether you adored him or you despised him, I mean,
he was an American who was dedicated, who dedicated his
life to ideas and to debate and free speech. Yes,
but here's the other part.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And again, if you thought that what he was saying
was racist, the solution wasn't to shoot him. No, it
was to prove him wrong. That's what he asked you
to do. Prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
But if you loathed everything he stood for, right, you
should still be able to say that murder is wrong. Absolutely,
because free people cannot tolerate assassination as a substitute for argument.
I mean, this is the very essence of the First Amendment.
If we must fear for our lives whenever we speak,
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then we are no longer free. And the Streeport City Council,
for example, you only had two members of the city
council who could agree to make a statement, a joint statement,
that murder was wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
And the statement they put out wasn't a partisan statement.
It was simply, we must agree that you have a
right to free speech and that I will defend your
right to free speech. That was essentially the statement that
they put out. And they could not get a single
member of the Democrat Party who is a city council
member to sign on to that very basic no, very exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And when they refuse anyone, I don't care who you are,
but especially if you're an elected leader, you have a
greater responsibility I believe to be to be honorable.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But whoever, if you're in elected office, a lot of
times we give you the title of honorable, the honorable right.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Certainly, that's certainly true, and.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Just because we've given you the title, doesn't mean you've
behaved in that way.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But all I'm trying to say here is is that
if you refuse to mourn a man who was assassinated
for speech, for his free speech, you're justifying evil. And
the scripture says woe to them. I mean, this is
not of God. Indifference to murder is not of God.
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Excusing violence is not of God. Celebrating murder silence, silence
in the face of evil is not of God. And
every single council member in Shreveport, every every elected official
in the state of Louisiana should be standing together, side
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by side and saying this, this is evil. That would
have been leadership, that would have been courage. Instead, you've
got some folks that are staying silent and rather than
defend even the most basic principle that murder is wrong.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's amazing that when you look at so called leaders
on the left, there are two that come to mind
that have actually taken a little bit of a stand
here that is justified. One is Senator Fetterman out of Pennsylvania,
and the other is Bill Maher. These two guys are
now further to the right than the entire rest of
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the Democrat Party. How did that happen? How did that happen?
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
The deeper concern I believe is when did it become
socially or morally acceptable to just kind of shrug your
shoulders at violence at victims of violence.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It never became morally acceptable.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
How did we all become qualified to start deciding when
murder victims had it coming or when they didn't. You
know what I'm saying, I.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Do, I do, And that's a that's a real problem.
And again, if we had someone on the left who
was going to college campuses and saying, prove me wrong,
I think abortions should be a right, and they were
willing to listen to other arguments, and then that person
was shot down, the folks on the right should be wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, No,
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murder is wrong. Even though I disagree with this guy
and he was advocating that the murder of babies, I
still don't think murdering that guy was right.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Can we just agree that violence is never justified and
that righteousness, not partisanship, must be our guiding star.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Let's get to the top of the things you need
to know before tomorrow. First, you need no before marrow.
Two bosh of City police officers were shot over the
week and responding to a domestic violence call. It happened
at the Velagio Apartments when the SWAT team was called
in after reports that a man and his wife are
(09:44):
barricaded inside an apartment. As the officers tried to enter
the apartment, the two officers were shot. The suspect also
shot himself and his wife, killing her. The officers were
taken to the hospital with non life threatening injuries. The
suspect is in critical condition.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know, it's a another very unform situation that goes
on every single day.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Right right, and we've got to remember that our law
enforcement officers are putting themselves in harm's way for us
and even for people who don't necessarily want them to.
They're they're they're taking that risk for our society. Second thing,
you need know before a while, the Democrat Party Headquars
and Baton Rouge was vandalized late last week. Someone spray
painted the word murderers in red paint on the sidewalk
in front of the office's parking lot. The incident occurred
(10:24):
after the murder of conservative Christian Charlie Kirk. It was
posted and was posted by the Democrat Party to their
social media pages. Louisiana Democratic Party Executive director Didarius Lanis
responded to the vandalism by saying, our job is as
Democrats and also head of Louisiana Democratic Party, is to
remain vigilant at this time and continue to push for
unity and justice across our entire country and of course
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our entire state.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, I hate to say it's a little late
the Democrat Party to push for unity. Well, but I mean,
I guess at the same token, I guess it's not
okay to spray paint murderer on the sidewalk in front. Absolutely,
and by the way, the State eight Republican Party of
Louisiana denounced such fashion, such vandalism, and the.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Third thing you know before while the bribery trial against
former District Attorney Gary Haines resumed today. Gary Haines is
the longtime prosecutor for the fifteenth Judicial District pre trial
diversion program. Haines is accused of soliciting bribes from companies
that participated in that program in order to send offenders
to their businesses. Jurors have been hearing recorded conversations between
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Haines and those businessmen who have pled guilty already and
are cooperating with prosecutors. What do you think about that
you are put in a position of public trusts. If
you violated that public trust, not only should you be
removed from office, but you should be prosecuted to the
fullest extent of the law. We cannot trust our government
if it's filled with untrusted worthy people. We've got more
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Speaker 4 (13:12):
Welcome back to American Ground Radium, Stephen Palmer, Lewis Sar
And of course we've talked on the show many times
about the power of prayer.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know, it wasn't that long ago we talked about
the power of prayer with respect to the Annunciation Catholic
Church in Minneapolis, right where you had another school shooting,
school shooting, right, a transgender motivated school shooting again. And
if you remember Jensaki at the time, I mean, this
just seems like a lifetime ago, but it was just
(13:42):
a couple of weeks ago actually. But you remember Jensaki said,
you know, she's the former Biden press secretary turned MSNBC
talking head, right, she had the goal to say it
plainly enough, Prayer, she said, is not enough. Of course,
we could go on and on and on about that,
but you know, we may have a very special guest
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in studio who may know that a little bit more
about this't all bad more than we do. Joining us
now in studio, Pastor Brad Djerkovic, Welcome back to American
Ground Radio. Thank you so much for spending some time
with us here in studio.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So good to be with you guys. It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You have certainly spent some time in prayer. When people
say that that their prayer is not enough, what's your
answer to that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, they need to start praying more. I'm telling you
God is good and he wants us to pray to
him and seek to him, and he answers, he moves,
and I'm a living testimony of that. I know you
guys are as well. Absolutely, and you.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Guys are actually focusing on that. You've got a night
of prayer, remembering Charlie Kirk. This is coming up tomorrow
night six point thirty at Freedom Fields in Bojer For
folks that aren't familiar with Freedom Fields, Can you tell
us where this is going to be?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, So First Baptist Boser is on East Texas Street
there in Bosuer City and Freedom Fields is our sports complex.
This is right next to First Bosure where do flight football,
out soccer outreach special events just like this.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
So it's going to be a big event, you think, Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I mean, obviously what you see happening around the country.
I mean, these vigils are happening everywhere. They might expect
one hundred and a thousand show up, you know. So
we don't know, but clearly there's a lot of interest
and just a need, a desire to say we need
to get together as a community and pray.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
What gave you the impetus to actually call this? What
made you say, you know what, we need to do
this in Bosure?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, I was talking to a pastor friend of mine
who is in Treuport and I'm enbosued, and he said,
Pastor Brad, you know you've got the facilities, You've got
a place right there. Why can't we do this? I said,
you know, I've been thinking about that myself. We just
need to do it. And it's amazing. We've put this
out there and I shared it with our church yesterday
morning and it's just kind of taken off. I mean,
everybody's like, we want to be there.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Are you concerned that some in your congregation may consider
this to be political and they may feel that that
political view doesn't represent them. Do you feel like that
they might feel like politics has come into the church
and that's not why they signed up.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, there's definitely a sentiment out there in the Christian community.
But at first, Bosu're at least with my coregation when
I was sharing with him about Charlie, who I met
he and Erica four and a half years ago and
met them and we've done some things together. But the
bottom line is his faith in Christ has been so strong,
so clear that people realize hits his faith that fueled
his involvement on the political landscape and these issues. And
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when they see a man of faith get gunned down
and murdered, it shakes him and says, you know what,
this is way beyond some political argument. This is a
man who followed Christ. And honestly, they're using the term
Christian martyr at this point.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
They are, and really I think the first Christian martyr
in my lifetime. Folks, you can go back to MLK
people say you're Christian martyr for there. But this has
really been a big deal and there have been a
lot of people that have been affected by Did you
see that in your church this weekend with new people
coming in because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, there's no question there were people that came. They
knew kind of like after nine to eleven people went
to church. But what you are seeing this is very
personal to them and that it's their faith. They know
he was gunned down because of what he was preaching
and standing, and so the Christian community is going, wait
a minute, that's that's what I believe, that's what I'm about,
and we need to pray. So definitely we had more
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people way engaged yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
But does it does it bother you? And how do
you explain it when there's friends of yours that are
are Christian, that are very good Christian church going people.
Maybe they don't go to First Baptist Bosure, but you
know them, and yet they have no empathy, they have
no compassion. They it's not that they necessarily are celebrating it,
(17:45):
but it's kind of like, you know, the word that's
often used is karma, is that he got what he deserved.
How do you how do you square that when you're like,
you're a you're a good Christian person and yet but
you're preaching karma.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I don't understand that. I got to be honest
with you. I think if you're born again, a child
of God, you know the grace of God. You've got
to have the empathy and understand and say, man, this
is a brother in Christ and he's been preaching Christ.
I mean literally, that has been his main mission. And yes,
he has impacted the culture and wanted to be a
force for that, and so whatever filter they have with that,
that's got to be stripped aside. And I do think,
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especially this younger generation, I think you can ignore the
fact that God used him thirty one years of age,
in that short amount of time to literally ignite young people,
young people that a lot of people in our age,
they're sitting there, young people write them off, they're not engaged.
No way, man. God used Charlie Kirk to not only
ignite that flame, and now, like his wife said the
other night, it's going to explode even more. Yeah, and
(18:47):
I think people are blown away by that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
We're talking with Pastor Brad Yerkevic with First Baptist Bosure.
One of the things my wife and I were talking
about when we saw this thirty one years old. You
brought that up. Jesus was just thirty three. What a
huge impact at a young age that Charlie Kirk was
able to have.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, that's why I say we cannot write off the
younger generation if you'll challenge them. And this is what
I think is so important with Charlie Kirk. He called
things straight. He said, this is what God said about marriage, family, life,
all of it. And he spoke plainly and clearly to
the younger generation. They're looking for that equipments meaning around
this deal. And that's what bothers me as a pastor.
(19:28):
When I see Charlie Kirk at thirty one being more
bold with his faith in getting the culture than many
pastors are, that is sad. And he's been using that
to stir this younger generation. That's what you're seeing today.
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Now you've got several folks coming to help you out
with this project. Corey Smith with Heritage Baptists right here
in treport. Is that the pastor that you started talking
about with.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, Yeah, we were talking the other day and he's
just been a great brother who has seen the value
of standing for Christ but also being engaged in the culture.
He sees it, he values it.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
We've got Abigail Dejarnett with counter Act USA. What's what's
Counteract USA all about.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Great, great organization that is very similar to like TPUSA.
So she has done events with Charlie Kirk and was
just what's amazing. She's out in northwest Arkansas and she
was in Korea with Charlie a week ago at that
huge conference that they were doing. She comes back. Obviously,
what happens to Charlie, It's tragic. And so but I said, hey,
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you just did a vigil last night in northwest Arkansas.
Why don't you come to northwestern Louisiana. So she's coming
and we're excided about that. And then also our our
friend Moon Griffon. Everybody knows Moon, he's coming up. How'd
you get Moon up here? He's awesome?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I just text her. I said, brother, we're about to
do this. Man, we'd love to have you. He said,
you know what I'm in. Let's go. I mean, he's
just an awesome brother.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, And that's how Moon is. He is you say, hey,
you want to do this thing, He's like, you know
what I'm in.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
He's a real deal. And so we're excited. Tomorrow night,
six thirty Freedom Fields, Bring a flag, break and candle,
bring your phone. We're gonna sing, We're gonna pray, We're
gonna share. It's going to be a powerful time for
our community.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
What do you think that prayer is going to accomplish?
Because we started this whole thing off with Jensaki saying
prayers not enough. You're holding a prayer visual, a night
of prayer, remembering Charlie Kirk. What do you think that
prayer is going to accomplish?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know, in tragic moments, it brings you to your knees,
you cry out to God, and I'm telling you, God
brings healing. God gives you hope, He gives you strength,
and especially when you're standing with other brothers and sisters
around and say, you know what, we're not alone. Evil
is real, but God is greater and we're going to
get through this.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And for folks that have seen what Charlie Kirk went
through and they've said, you know what, I think for
the first time, I need to go to church. What's
your message to those people.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I think this is a great moment to do that.
There are some great Bible believing churches around. Go to one,
meet with God, strengthen your faith, find faith in Christ.
All of that, God's going to use all this I'm
telling you to see millions turn to Jesus.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I think we're already seeing that. Yeah, Okay, Night of Prayer,
remembering Charlie Kirk six point thirty Tomorrow night, Tuesday Night,
Freedom Field's gonna have Mungrafan Abigail and Pastor Corey Smith,
along with Pastor Brad Yerkovic joining us. Thank you so
much for spending some time with us year in the studio.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I appreciate what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
We appreciate your service to the people of northwest Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Bet love you guys.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
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Speaker 3 (23:00):
Representative Danny McCormick is coming after Mike Johnson again again.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And why they released a whole bunch of fscy stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
He writes that he is becoming increasingly alarmed by Speaker
Johnson's weak leadership. This is beyond just talking about leadership,
he says, I am becoming increasingly alarmed by Speaker Mike
Johnson's week leadership, which threatens to fracture the Republican Party
(23:35):
and jeopardize our House majority in the twenty twenty six
mid terms.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I'm sorry, his week leadership is what's threatening to fracture
the Republican Party. If it hadn't been for Mike Johnson's
incredibly strong leadership, the Republican Party would have already fractured
by now, and it almost did. Remember Marjorie Taylor Green
called for a vote of no confidence against Mike Johnson.
He had to wrangle that the party did fracture under
Kevin McCarthy, and we went through vote after vote after
(24:03):
vote to get to a speaker. It took what two
weeks to finally get to a speaker, and that was
Mike Johnson. And the entire Republican Party in the House
was able to rally around Mike Johnson, and since then
he has kept together the coalition, passing Donald Trump's One
Big Beautiful Bill and other Donald Trump Agenda items with
one of the smallest majorities in the American history. And
(24:23):
he's done that with the opposition of Thomas Massey, who
is in the Republican Party. I guess, in name only,
what kind of how much stronger leadership can you be
asking for? So?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Representative McCormick, speaking of Thomas Massey. Representative McCormick said that
Mike Johnson's refusal to support Congressman Thomas Massey's discharge petition
to release the Jeffrey Epstein files and his decision to
adjourn Congress early to avoid a vote on this critical
(24:57):
issue signal a troubling life of courage.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Except that last week there's a whole bunch of Epstein
files that were released. Do you remember that. I know,
it got drowned out by all the other news, the
stabbing in Carolina, the shooting of Charlie Kirk. There was
a whole bunch of other news that covered this up.
But there were Epstein files released last week. Did Danny
McCormick miss that? Because one of the files that got
released was a so called birthday card from Donald Trump
(25:24):
to Jeffrey Epstein that signature analysts have said was not
Donald Trump's signature. So one of the things that we
got released because Danny McCormick's been demanding it was a
forged document designed to make Donald Trump look like a pedophile?
Is that what Danny McCormick wanted.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
But first of all, let's understand what the speaker's job
really is. The speaker isn't just a firebrand no with
a megaphone. He's not a talk radio.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Host like you are on although he's got an amazing voice,
he could do it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oh he does have a podcast, Okay, But I mean
he's not there just to blast away at the opposition. No,
he is there to move forward the agenda of the
Conservative Party. He's got to manage two hundred and some
odd Republicans, each with their own egos, and with each
with their own districts, each with their own agendas.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And because Democrats aren't as likely to think for themselves
as the Conservatives are, it's much easier to get Democrats
to fall in line. You threaten to call them racists,
and they're like, oh, I don't want that, I'll just
vote for whatever you want. But Conservatives have minds of
their own, as Danny McCormick is showing, and so trying
to get conservatives Republicans to do what it is you
want is like herding cats. Trying to get democrats what
(26:33):
to do what you want. That's just simply just asking
people to line up, and they do. But on the
Republican side, they all have minds of their own and
they've all got their own agendas, and they're all heading
in three thousand different directions. It's like herding cats. It's
a much more difficult Mike Johnson's job is so much
more difficult than Nancy Pelosi's job was because of the
nature of the mind of conservatives versus the nature of
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the mind of leftists.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And here's the other part. You know, for any one
to say that Mike Johnson has a lack of courage,
why this is? This is a man who stood tall
when the left came after him on social issues, when
they smeared him for his faith, when they tried to
cancel him for defending traditional values. Did he fold? No,
(27:19):
He kept speaking the truth. He said, if you want
to know what my political views are, read your Bible.
That is not a man that is weak on leadership
or lacking encourage. And I do not understand why this.
Louisiana lawmaker who claims he's not trying to run against
Mike Johnson continues to attack him.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I don't understand it. What what are you trying to accomplish?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean the Epstein files at this point, because when
you when you lead with that, I'm becoming increasingly alarmed
by Speaker Mike Johnson's weak leadership.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yes, that's that's that's that's just about the Epstein files.
That's that's everything. And we've asked Representative McCormick on this show,
what are you trying to accomplish? And we did not
get a clear answer on that. Well, he said, but
he said, he's not running against.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
This is his congressman. Yes, and if he can't disagree
with his congressman, who can he disagree with?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Well, you're welcome to disagree with him, But you're putting
out public statements. And one of the I wish people
would get this down. One of the points of conversation,
one of the points of communication, especially public communication, is
you are trying to accomplish something. There needs to be
a purpose behind your words, otherwise you're just spitting idle gossip.
So if there's not purpose behind your words, then what
(28:38):
are you doing. If you just wanted to say, well
I disagree with my congressman, great, you can write him
a letter. That's not what you're doing. You're going out
in public as an elected representative. And he puts Danny
McCormick State Rep. On there. You're going out into public
as an elective representative saying our other elected representative is
doing it wrong. Okay, So what are you trying tolish?
(29:00):
Because you say you're not running for his seat. I
would understand this if you were trying to beat Mike
Johnson for the congressional district. Dan McCormick says, clearly he's
not running against Mike Johnson.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
He says he doesn't know anyone that is planning to
run kil Then what are.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You trying to accomplish? You just want to You just
want to cause division within the Republican Party. You want
to cause division within Mike Johnson's home district. I mean,
talk about causing division within the Republican Party. One of
you is saying we all got to stick together, and
the other one's saying we've got a bad leader. Which
one of you is causing division?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Well, no, and again, real leadership, real leadership is about results.
It's about holding your team together. It's about saying no
to the things that feel good in the moment but
will blow up in the long term mission and john
the Speaker, Johnson is doing just that.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
He's moving the ball forward with a very small majority
in both the House and the Senate. You've got to
be playing old style Chicago Bears football for your yards
and a pile of dirt.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
We can't go for the long bomb because we don't
have the numbers to make it happen. Even if you
get it through the House, it won't get through the Senate.
You've only got four yards and a pile of dirt.
And then you hike the ball again and you go
four yards and a pile of dirt. That's what Mike
Johnson's doing. He's not going to be able to land
the long bombs. So if you're complaining that he's not
(30:25):
going for broke, you don't understand the politics of Washington
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And not only is he trying to manage the two
hundred and some odd Republicans in the House, but he's
also having to navigate Democrats who want nothing more than
to destroy him.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
There's never been a more obstinate party in American history
since the Civil War, which, by the way, those also
the Democrats. But there's never been a party that has
been less cooperative than this Democrat party. In the House,
and again, to give you an example, Mike Johnson was
going to allow prayer over Charlie Kirk in the House.
(31:07):
A Republican asks, hey, can we pray? Lauren bob it right,
She asked, can we pray out loud over Charlie Kirk?
And the Democrats yelled no. They yelled no that they
yelled opposition to prayer in the House of Representatives. They
booed the idea you think that party is going to
(31:28):
help you move forward Trump's agenda any way, shape or form. So,
Danny McCormick, if you're trying to create, if you're trying
to create problems for Mike Johnson, you're doing it. If
you're trying to help move the conservative cause forward four
yards in a pile of dirt, you're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And he would argue, I should be free to disagree.
You're free to disagreement. You're free to disagree with your congressman.
Are you doing in a way that's constructive or destructive.
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Speaker 4 (33:13):
Welcome back to American Groun Radio. Stephen Palmer lewissar evelony
and see it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Is irresponsible for Democrats for Republicans to say some of
the incendiary things that are being said. Okay, not about
Charlie Kirk. This is. This is an article written by
Dustin Granger. We've had him on the show before. He's
a Democrat. He ran for state treasurer a couple of times,
(33:41):
and he's got an email list and he sends out
messages that he's writing to. I guess folks who have
followed him or have been supporters of his candidacy. And
this latest one that I was reading says the Louisiana
the set up colon, the Louisiana GOP plot to kill
(34:05):
the Voting Rights Act. Now there's a plot, right, See
words have meaning? Yeah, So he describes the Republican the
Louisiana Republican plot to kill the Voting Rights Act. Now
I read through all of this and it is complete nonsense.
There's nothing in here that actually establishes how Louisiana Republicans
(34:32):
are trying to kill the Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
What No, Jeff Landry is definitely trying to kill the
Voting Rights Act. Is not the whole voting right now. No, no,
not the whole Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
They are trying to kill the part of the Voting
Rights Act that says you have to redraw districts based
on race because that part is incompatible with the Constitutional
that's the whole point. But they're trying to stop that
part of the Voting Rights That's actually what's up for
debate within the Supreme Court coming up in October.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Well, first of all, the Voting Rights Act is a
federal law. Yeah, so Louisiana Republicans trying to kill a
federal law. Nobody in Baton Rouge can just kill it.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
No, That's why Jeff Landry had to go through the
charade of creating the Second Congressional District, which was an abomination.
He had to create something that was so bad that
it would force the Supreme Court to go should we
continue doing this?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Okay? But the Voting Rights Act in and of itself
is not unconstitutional.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Not the whole Voting Rights Act. Then the Republicans aren't
trying to kill the whole Voting Rights Act. They are
trying to take down the part of the Voting Rights
Act that says you have to redistrict based on race,
the part of the Voting Rights Act that requires minority
majority districts. And really what they're trying to do is
take down the Supreme Court's previous interpretation of the Voting
Rights Act that demanded minority majority districts.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
But then he goes on to say, now that black
voters have begun rebuilding real influence, the GOP is trying
to take it all back.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
No, voters actually started gaining some real influence when they
stopped voting blindly for the Democrat Party and started loud
voters who voted for Donald Trump. Or a big reason
why Donald Trump's back in the White House. Black voters
voting for Donald Trump is why he's forty five and
forty seven.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Okay, but my point here is the headline of this story, Yes,
is the Louisiana Republican plot to kill the Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I think that's inaccurate, but I don't think it's wrong.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I do think there was a way you can't.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I don't think it's let me change.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
It's imprecise.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
It's like being pregnant. Yeah, you can't be a little
bit pregnant.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
It's imprecise. You're accurate or you're not. They're not trying
to take down the whole Voting Rights Act. They are
trying to change the way that the Voting Rights Act
is interpreted by the Supreme Court. So it does no
longer require majority minority district.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
They're trying to make sure the district maps follow the Constitution.
The left doesn't want fair maps, right, they want jerry
mandarin maps that guarantee Democrats under the guise of civil rights.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
That's right. But that's all based off of the interpretation
of the Voting Rights Act in the courts. And yes,
there is a Republican plot in the state of Louisiana.
And I believe Jeff Landry have this plot from the
day he walked into office. We're gonna draw district that
is so egregiously bad that it forces the Supreme Court
to change the way they've interpreted the Voting Rights Act. Now,
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are they trying to take down the entire Voting Rights Act?
Absolutely not, And it is it's a very long phrase
to fit into a headline saying there's a Republican plot
to change the way the courts interpret the Voting Rights Act.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, But when you put it this way, yes, then
all Republicans are what they're evil? Well, I get they're evil.
They're trying to marginalize people of color.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Unless the way that the Voting Rights Act was interpret
is racist. And if there's a Republican plot to take
down the way the Voting Rights Act is interpreted. Then
it's not that Republicans are racist, that that the Democrats
are that have been racist, and Republicans are trying to
end racism in voting. That's a good thing, but.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
This sort of language, and I guess in the wake
of what happened in Utah, yes, I think we need
to be more mindful that we're talking more about ideas,
debating the merits of a policy, rather than demonizing one another,
rather than dividing one another with sensationalism.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I absolutely agree with that that the way that that's
written was designed to be inflammatory, and it was imprecise,
which makes it slightly incorrect. At the same time, yes,
Republicans are trying to eliminate minority majority districts because they're
racists their race. If you're judging people based on the
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color of their skin, that's called racism. And if we've
got racism built, the left is like, oh, there's institutional racism. Yes,
there is. We have institutional racism in our government that
gives black candidates more power than white candidates because our
interpretation of the Voting Rights Act requires.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Racism and By the way, I think Democrats are killing
the spirit of the Act every time they oppose voter
id laws. I agree too, because the right to vote
means nothing if elections are corrupted by fraud. But the
Democrats fight tooth and nail against the simplest, most common
sense protection, and that is proving who you say you are.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
So I don't really think it's about one person, one vote.
I think the left is like, how can we rack
up as much power through voting laws as we possibly can?
So I think their interpretation of is all disingenuous. And
then when they call us a racist, well I know
it is that.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
The Voting Rights Act was meant to guarantee equality at
the ballot box. And does jerry mandered congressional districts do that.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You are listening to American Ground Radio.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Welcome back to American Robadem. Stephen Parward, luisar Avalona. It's
back the barbecue crunch Rap. It's back at the Magnolia Pit.
You already know it's crowd favorite.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Oh you mean the chopped brisket, Yeah, the mac and cheese,
that's right, the Jlipino chip, that's right. Shredded cheddar. Yes,
and then it's all top with ranch and their signature barbecue.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
And then they take all that they wrap it up tortilla.
They grill that to a golden perfection. And that's why
you get that crunch wrap. You see the other words,
that crunch rap.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Where else are you going to get something this unique?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, it's it is absolutely a Magnolia Pit original. You're
gonna love it, So go check it out. Uh, you know,
and it's not gonna last long, right, I said it's back,
so they had it for it's back. I'm not sure
how long it's gonna last, So you got to go
check it out. Seven twenty nine Jordan Street in Streamport.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Did you see this story about a Louisiana fisherman that
apparently is going to jail.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, because he had a cachet of machine guns yes
on his boat. Yes, and he told law enforcement. I
guess who discovered it that he uses those machine guns
whenever sharks come to attack or they're threatening to attack
(41:37):
his boat, right, or I guess menacing him. Whatever it
is that causing him some concern.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Well, now I know that they mentioned machine guns, and
I guess what they're meaning is fully automatic weapons, because
as I understand, fully automatic weapons aren't illegal in the US,
and if your your boat is docked, if you're not
out in international.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, he had seven m Let's see, what were these
AR forty sevens. I mean, that's a lot. That's a
lot to go after sharks.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yeah, that's just that's some military power there. I wonder
what the sharks were armed with. Do they have laser
beams on their heads?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I'm not quite sure they. I guess maybe he had
just seen Jaws maybe one too many times.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, but still machine gunning sharks feels a little overpowered
as well. But all right, hey, you know we got
another hour of American Ground Radio coming up. We'll brow backstaground,
take us Whizzies wherever you go.
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