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September 25, 2025 42 mins
You're listening to American Ground Radio with Stephen Parr and Louis R. Avallone. This is the full show for September 24, 2025. 

0:30 We reflect on a tragic attack at an ICE immigration facility in Dallas. A 29-year-old gunman opened fire, leaving migrants dead and wounded before turning the gun on himself. And we discuss conflicting reports, the troubling rise of politically motivated violence, and how rhetoric from activist politicians and media outlets continues to paint law enforcement officers as villains.

Plus, we cover the Top 3 Things You Need to Know. 
  • A federal judge ruled this week that East Baton Rouge Parish violated the rights of local residents during a 2016 city council meeting.
  • The City of Shreveport passed an ordinance creating a new entertainment district downtown, called the Film and Entertainment Gateway Economic Development District.
  • The University of Louisiana at Lafayette announced their largest freshman class in school history.
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    13:30 Rapper and entrepreneur Curtis “50 Cent” Jackson has poured millions into Shreveport, from Millennium Studios to downtown properties, promising jobs and revitalization. But with the city’s long history of ribbon-cuttings that never deliver, some residents are cautious.

    23:00 Should the University of New Orleans reclaim its old identity as LSU New Orleans? We unpack the power of branding in higher education and if the name change could be what UNO needs to get back on track. 

    We Dig Deep into a new Mason-Dixon poll on the upcoming New Orleans elections. From Helena Moreno's bid for mayor to the sheriff's race, we dig into the numbers and what they tell us about the future of the city. 

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    33:30 We get into Congressman Clay Higgins' fiery remarks following Charlie Kirk's death— calling for lifetime bans, revoked licenses, and blacklisting of anyone who posted critical comments online. Where does the line fall between moral outrage and constitutional rights? 

    Plus, we have a little fun guessing the three closest elections this century in the electoral college. Play along!

    And we finish off with a word about Magnolia Pit BBQ where you can savor the soul of Louisiana BBQ. 

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Speaker 4 (00:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Happy Wednesday, Wednesday. Oh yeah, gosh, it's all running together.
We are broadcasting to you from our brand new studios.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yes, yeah, we've We've had a very busy day, started
very early this morning. We had some special guests here
in the studio as we were officially launching it, and uh,
you know, I think it's been a very very big
day for us here at America is starting our brand
new studio.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well and we welcome all of you in. Soon we'll
be broadcasting or streaming video of the show and so
we're looking forward to that. As well. Hope, uh, hope
we're sounding clear as a bell.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, when we when we talk straight into the mike,
we are.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Absolutely it's gonna take a little it's a little different
our seating arrangement, the surroundings, certainly.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And and part of why we're doing this is the
that we're changing up what we're doing here in the
studio because we are wanting to start streaming video live.
So we've created Initially we were broadcasting from our radio
studio and now we are broadcasting from a TV studio,
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(02:18):
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Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah. Absolutely. You know, there was some sad news, some
tragic news today and ICE immigration facility over in Dallas
was attacked shot up and JD Vance and he's right
about this, and I know a lot of folks are
going to say, well, he's just amping up the rhetoric,

(02:55):
the tension in our country. But you know this country, Look,
you have folks that are carving messages into bullets in
order to I guess they think they're winning a political argument.
And that is what happened today at this ICE immigration

(03:19):
facility where you had a twenty nine year old man
who climbed up on a rooftop in Dallas opened fire
on the ICE facility there and turned a regular day
of processing and patrolling and protecting into a nightmare. You
had two migrants who were killed, four others who were wounded,

(03:41):
and then the man turned the gun on himself.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I've been hearing some different reports on the wounded
all day long. It's been conflicting. I've heard two migrants
were killed. I've heard one was killed. So I don't
know the exact number on that, just because the reports
seem to keep going back and forth. But we'll try
and figure that out exactly well.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
And you know, I know the Left is going to
try to spin this into another gun control conversation they
always do, but that misses the point. And the point
is that we have reached a place in American politics
where law enforcement officers who you know where they didn't
write the laws, they're just carrying them out. Are being
targeted as villains in this narrative spun by activist politicians,

(04:28):
activist journalists, activist academics. And so you had JD. Vance
today and he really hit the nail on the head
and he did not mince any words. He said, you
don't have to agree with my immigration policies. You don't
have to agree with Donald Trump's immigration policies. But if
your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement, you

(04:51):
can go straight to hell. And you have no place
in the political conversation of the United States of America.
And there you are a lot of folks say, well,
you know, he's telling folks to go to hell. That's
not part of that's lower lowering the temperature. But you
know what, sometimes, but Stephen, sometimes you've got to say

(05:12):
what you've got to say.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Okay, But the left would say that make the exact
same argument. Sometimes you got to say what you got
to say. And Ice is a bunch of fascists that
that's not.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
There's absolutely no okay. So, but that's an opinion. That's
an opinion.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Nice is a fascist.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's an opinion that for them, it is an opinion. Okay,
But what I'm talking about is law enforcement officers who
are simply enforcing the law right, doing their job. Yes,
that's not an opinion.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I agree that that's the part that's not The part
that I'm saying isn't lowering the temperature. The part that's
not lowering the temperature is saying that anybody who says
Ice as fascist is going to go to hell. That's
not lowering the temperature. And that is an opinion. So look,
I agree with it with I agree with what jd
Vance was trying to say. That part there, again is

(06:07):
not lowering the temperature. And if we are going to
say the left needs to lower the temperature, we need
to say it in a way that doesn't tell them
they're going to hell.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, but you also need to say you also need
to put the truth out there. If you are encouraging violence,
let me ask you something, what part which commandment? How
many commandments are being violated? Of the ten commandments? That
is that how many when you encourage violence against law enforcement?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, you're doing several, but there's also it's biblical that
you don't know who goes to go to hell. That's
Jesus's choice, that's God's choice, that's not ours. So yes,
I see both sides on this, and I again in principle,
I agree with what Jdvans is saying. The left's rhetoric
has been too far over the top. And once again

(06:58):
we have a shooter who, according to online reports, has
a sister who's dating a transgender person, and he's writing fascist,
anti fascist stuff on the bullets. It's the same imo
of the gentleman, not the gentleman, but the man that
murdered Charlie Kirk. You will have those similarity.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
In Luigi Mangioni.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Here's Mangoni up.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know you're not saying that he started this trend of.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Writing on bullets. I don't know of a case before that.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well, I'm sure that it's happened before. But nevertheless, again,
I think what JD. Vance his condemnation today was that
of an entire culture on the left that has been
normalized since twenty sixteen. It's a culture that cheered when
ice officers were docksed online. It's a culture that excused

(07:46):
vandalism against ice offices. It's a culture that shrugged when
the Abolish Ice movement became this mainstream chant in Democrat
primaries a grain.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Again, here's my point on though. Look at how Erica
Kirk has handled the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And she
stands there in front of one hundred thousand people and
she says, I forgive the man who murdered my husband.
And there were people who were drawn into what Turning
Points stands for and what Charlie Kirk stood for because

(08:21):
of the way Erica is going through this, and Erica
is not raising the temperature. She didn't say I condemned
the man who shot my husband to hell.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
So jd.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Vance could have followed the example of Charlie Kirk and
said this rhetoric has to stop because you are getting
people killed. End of end of sentence right there.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
This has to stop.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
It's Unamerican, it is not acceptable in our country. He
didn't have to go that extra step. And by going
that extra step, he's going to have lost potential converts
because they're going to go, see, you're just like that.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I disagrees. I understand about having less hate in this country.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
There's been a huge uprising because of the wage.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
But there are some people that you've got to use
certain language in order to reach them, and if you.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Do, they may shoot at you. Let's get to the
top three things you need to know before tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
There it is first thing you need to know before tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Federal judge ruled this week that East Baton Rouge Paris
violated the rights of local residents. You're twenty sixteen council meeting.
Mike McClanahan, statewide president of the NAACP, and Baton Rouge
resident Eugene Collins try to speak up during the city
council meeting in July of twenty sixteen over the shooting
death of Alton Sterling. The city council and Mayor pro
Tim Scott Wilson denied them the right to speak, and

(09:55):
both men were taken out of the city council chambers
by police. In December twenty seventeen, the pair sued the
council and Wilson in his official capacity. Already the city
has spent one hundred and twenty two thousand dollars fighting
this lawsuit in court and will now have to pay
the attorney's fees and some other fines when the judge
issues his sentencing.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Again, we come down to free speech. I'm not saying
I necessarily I would have agreed with what the NAACP
was doing, but the court apparently said the city violated
their free speech rights. We've seen some other city councils
do this. You've got to let people speak. Second thing
you need know before tomorrow. The City of Louisiana pass
in ordinance creating a new entertainment district downtown called the
Film and Entertainment Gateway Economic Development District. The plan was

(10:36):
passed at the request of rapper and movie mogul Curtis Jackson,
also known as fifty Cent. That means the city will
enact an additional two percent sales tax inside the district
on top of the city and states existing sales taxes.
All of the money from those taxes would be spent
in a redevelopment fund. Jackson is reportedly putting in fifty
million dollars of his own money to pay for the
rebuilding of several properties in the new Economic Development district.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know, I know there's a lot of skepticism with
regards to why is the city doing all of this
bending over backwards for fifty cent. You know, if you've
got someone that is willing to put an investment in
a community, you know you got to take them at
their word. And the third thing you do?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
You know, before of all, the University of Louisiana Lafayett
announced their largest freshman class in school history. ULL brought
in three twenty four freshmen to the twenty twenty five
twenty twenty six school year. That's an increase over last
year of four point eight percent. Dwayne Bowie, vice President
for Enrollment Management, told KATC students and families are choosing
the university because it offers a combination of excellent academics,

(11:37):
a fun and supportive environment, and top tier research opportunities.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well that is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, We've got several of the smaller universities across the
state that are showing some of their record enrollments and
I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, bright back for more.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
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Speaker 4 (13:14):
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Speaker 2 (13:18):
The Rapper Curtis Jackson, Curtis fifty Jackson. I mean he's
already made a sizable investment in the Streetport. I don't
think any investment whatsoever in the Boser city. No, I
think it's all been on the Streetport. Everything has been
in Streetport, and of course the city of Streetport has
basically welcomed him in with open arms. But you know

(13:43):
the thing is, I get it. There's a lot of naysayers.
I mean, here's a guy walking in with fifty million
dollars or the promise of making an investment, writing a
check to the people of Streetport essentially of fifty million
dollars in terms of invest in real estate and ultimately

(14:03):
in projects that will yield jobs and opportunities for folks
in northwest Louisiana. And folks have.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Said, look, he's got he's had Millennium studios. Now, oh man,
I'm blinking on the name of what he renamed the city,
the studios. But he's had his studio there from the
city for a year now, and we haven't really seen
a whole bunch of production come out of it. We
did have the Humor in Harmony festival, which had a
lot of people come into town, had some big names.
Dave Chappelle came into Streeport. There are some complaints about

(14:35):
some of the behavior of the people who attended some
of those parties, and he has been buying up some
vacant property in downtown Streeport, but we haven't necessarily seen
anything developed in them. So I understand there's there's both sides.
On this that he has poured a lot of money
into Shreaport, but Streetport's also given him a couple of
sweetheart deals, certainly on Millennium studios.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
But I think people want to believe the problem is
is that, you know, especially those that have been in
a community for any length of time, they can all
rattle off a list of folks, whether it's politicians or
developers or some big corporations, they always show up with
the same promises. You know, they hold a press conference,

(15:17):
they smile for the cameras, they cut a ribbon, and
they say, we're bringing jobs, We're bringing investment.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Ileo Motors is the best example of this. Elo Motors
came in and said, we are going to create this
revolutionary three wheeled vehicle. It's going to be it's going
to be a car. It's going to have a canopy
in it, so you're not gonna be out exposed to
the elements. It's a three wheel vehicle. Oh my gosh,
it's going to be amazing. Just let us have the
old GM plant and we will make these cars. And

(15:45):
they haven't even made a prototype, they didn't do anything.
And yet the city and actually in this case it
was the parish was like, yeah, come on in here,
have a sweetheart deal, have another sweetheart deal. And Elo
Motors held a couple of press conferences and and just
ghosted everybody.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And I think part of that is is a lot
of folks over the years have come in promising the
moon and the stars and saying, you know, we're gonna
create five thousand new jobs, We're gonna inject this many
millions of dollars into the local economy. And then what happens, Well,
a year later, maybe they've created twenty jobs, maybe fifty jobs.

(16:23):
Maybe the project stalls, maybe the investment gets cut in half,
or maybe it never materializes at all. And we all
have very long memories because we remember the factory that
was supposed to hire everyone in town but never opened.
They remember the retail development that you know, was promising
to revitalize, you know, like, for example, downtown, you have

(16:46):
the entertainment district, which basically has been the Red River District.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Right, Yeah, because now you've got the entertainment district.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
We're all intents and purposes. It really has never been successful.
It's never led or it's never lived up.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
To It had some restaurants and some businesses down there,
you know, had cohab down there and other things like that,
and then it did all kind of seemed to fizzle. Now,
I'm normally not a big fan of government taxation, especially
for private corporations. I'm not sure that the tax on

(17:20):
the mall, Saint Vincent Mall has necessarily done good things
for the mall. The malls just as empty as it
ever was. But we're now talking about doing a two
cent sales tax in the entertainment district. But all of
those pieces of property that are as I understand at
least most of it is stuff that's owned by fifty

(17:41):
cent Jackson, by Curtis Jackson. Now, so in order for
those pieces of property to create a two percent sales tax,
you're going to have to sell something in those buildings,
which means that you're not actually going to be raising
taxes unless Curtis Jackson creates something that had something to sell.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah. Absolutely, But you know, just because something is the
odds are against it, I don't know that that necessarily
means you automatically distrust it. I mean, because look, this
very country was born in optimism. Look at our founding
fathers in seventeen seventy six. The odds, the odds were impossible.

(18:24):
You had the most powerful empire on Earth against a
ragtag collection of colonies. But they signed their names on
the declaration anyway, believing that freedom would prevail. And that
wasn't pessimism. That was optimism of the highest order. I mean,
look at our space program. I mean John F. Kennedy.

(18:46):
You know, in nineteen sixty one he said we're going
to the Moon in this decade. He didn't say, well,
we might try, but the odds are slim. No, he
spoke with optimism, with an expectation of success, and in
nineteen sixty nine Neil Armstrong set foot on the lunar surface.
I mean optimism made that possible. So I guess we're

(19:11):
goism and vision. I mean just having optimism alone.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Wouldn't have done it. There was there was vision, there
was a sense of purpose. Yes, he had optimism and
that that was a catalyst for it, but that doesn't
create the entire reaction. So we can have optimism for
Curtis fifty cent Jackson, but we're also going to need
to see some execution. We're going to need to see
some production. We're going to need to see some competence
to see all of this actually happen.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Now, as long as as long as curtis fifty cent
Jackson is in good faith, Yeah, with respect to the
promises and the intentions that he has made. You know,
I get that. But we shouldn't let the gloom and
doom crowd steal our spirit. You know, if our natural bent,

(19:57):
I mean I think in our DNA, it's bent towards hope,
towards confidence, towards believing that things will work out. And
you know what they usually do, because optimism, it's not
just wishful thinking. It's the fuel that drives progress and
achievement and greatness. And of course, as we say on

(20:19):
the show all the time, there is greatness within all
of us. So I understand the skepticism. And no, I'm
not comparing fifty cent to Neil Armstrong or John F.
Kennedy turning around your father. But it's about an attitude.
It's about a spirit of an expectation of success. Now

(20:41):
that doesn't mean, you know, you can just set it
and forget it and you say, well, whatever fifty cent wants,
we're gonna give it to him, and you know, we'll
come back in ten years and check how he's doing. No,
I'm not saying that whatsoever. You have to inspect what
you expect and whether that's in Northwest Louisiana or Northeast

(21:03):
Louisiana or South Louisian, wherever you live throughout this great state.
I think we need to embrace opportunities, even though maybe
sometimes they may seem a little far fetched.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
And I understand that this was a bipartisan vote, by
the way, on the city councilor both Republicans and Democrats
who voted in favor of creating this special economic development district,
and Republican Grayson Butcher said, and this is one of
the I think he's right on this. There's really very
little exposure for the city on this deal. Again, it's

(21:38):
a two percent sales tax. Well, right now, all those
buildings that have been declared this entertainment district, they have
nothing in them, so they're not creating any two percent
sales tax. If if he starts to build something that
has something to sell, then you start creating that two
percent sales tax. And that money from that two percent
sales tax is supposed to go into a reinvestment fund

(22:00):
for downtown So from Grayson's point, yeah, I agree this.
There's not a whole bunch of exposure for.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
The city on them getting lots lots of texts from
our listeners, some saying amen and some saying trust but verify.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
I think both those things are valid points.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I really do.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
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Speaker 4 (22:58):
Welcome back to American ground, right. I'm Stephen Barbara Lewis
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Speaker 2 (23:02):
Okay, so should you n O the University of New
Orleans become LSU New Orleans Because interim LSU President Matt
Lee told the Board of Regents that if the University
of New Orleans is going to transfer into the LSU system,
then it should proudly take the LSU name once again,

(23:27):
and that means calling it LSU New Orleans. And I
think he's absolutely right because branding matters, identity matters. LSU
is one of the most recognizable brands in the state.
Heck the nation. And when people see those three letters,
they think flagship, they think prestige, they think Tiger Pride,

(23:49):
they think Death Valley. I mean, but you and O,
God bless it. It has struggled for decades to stand out.
Enrollment has slipped, funding has been tight, the school's profile
has not kept pace with its peers. So I think
reattaching the LSU name doesn't fix everything. It doesn't erase

(24:11):
all of those challenges, but I think it gives the
school the rocket fuel it needs to have a chance
at surviving. Was certainly the if it's worth surviving because
the un.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
O brand is damaged. I mean, that's that's obvious, based
off the falling enrollment, based off the financial problems the
schools had. There is a there's a damage to the
brand of un O.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
So it used to be called LSU New Orleans. When
it opened in nineteen fifty eight, it was an LSU
branch campus.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
And LSU has branch campuses across the state. You know
ls l SUS, LSU.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Shreeport, LSU Unis LSU.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
And by the way, LSU Unis just announced that they
have had they have their highest enrollment ever. LSU Shreeport.
It's announced that they've had their high enrollment ever. So
you've got these schools that have the L s U
brand on them spread out across the state, and they're
saying we are actually at our peak of all time.
At the same time, U n O is that it's
nate here, it's at its lowest level of all time.

(25:15):
So maybe maybe we do need to do a rebrand,
a refresh, and and a rethink of the entire philosophy
of the school.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
So I think it's interesting that the interim president of
L s U, I think, is it's willing to embrace
U n O bring it back into the fold. I
mean that that is interesting because I think there's a
lot of challenges at UNO structurally that have to be fixed.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, before it can be fully successful. Well, tell you what,
let's dig deep, going down down. There was a poll
done by Mason Dixon, a national poll firm. It's you know,
it was okay during the last election. It wasn't the

(26:04):
worst polling firm out there. Some basics from this poll
that that pop out. One Helena Moreno is leading the
mayor's race by nearly twenty points. She's over fifty percent
which means she's likely to win on the first ballot.
She's also the most popular candidate in every demographic group
for men, for women, for Republicans, for Democrats, for independence,

(26:27):
for white, black, other So she's way out in front.
Are you surprised by any of that?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
No, Well, I mean I'm not surprised that you still
have a liberal Democrat that is going to be the
next mayor of n Exactly.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
It also looks like Sheriff Susan Hudson is going to
be voted out of office, but it may take two
ballots to do that. Former interim police Superintendent Michelle Woodfork
is the leading candidate. She's got forty five percent support.
That's thirty five points higher than Hudson, who's stuck at
ten percent. But Hu is in second place with that
ten percent. So again, it does look like Michelle Woodfork

(27:04):
is likely to be the next sheriff. I'm surprised that
even ten percent of people still in Orleans Parish support her,
given this summer that she's had, with the escape, with
the financial problems, with the contempt of court declaration from
the judge.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well it's not her fault, really, Oh right, Well, that's
what I guess her supporters would say.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Now, the interesting details of the poll were a little
further down because those two were exactly what I expect.
I expected Woodford to be in fearnt. I expect Moreno
to be in front. That's not the surprising word and
not surprising. I just think there's a little bit more
detail in this poll that's pretty interesting. They asked voters,
what's the most important issue for you in the city

(27:49):
of New Orleans this election? Number one, basic services such
as street lighting and road repairs. That's the number one
problem for voters in the city of New Orleans right now.
Number two was crime and drugs. So it's almost like
the people of New Orleans want their city government to

(28:11):
do the things that only a city government can do.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Oh my goodness, Stephen, you are ascribing such You're really
ascribing a little too much thought, I think to the voters. No,
you know why.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Now they may not recognize that that's only something that
a city government can do, but in their hearts, they're saying,
what's our biggest problem. Our lights don't work, the basic
services don't work, the roads are awful, and I think
too much crime. We got too much drugs. That they're
not saying, you know what we need, we need our
mayor flying around for climate chain.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
No, I think it's not a basic understanding. I think
it's basic instinct when people you know, it's it's it's
the whole Maslow's you know theory.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Or high needs exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
And so they are trying to figure out, Okay, I
need to be able to get to work, I need
to be able to drive. I need to be able
to be safe in my home. I need to have
you know, basic you know, running water, shelter, those sorts
of things. I would love to think that a majority
of folks in New Orleans are thinking about this from
a political theory in terms of what is the role

(29:16):
of government. But I think what they're thinking is basically,
you know, I don't feel safe in my home. My
water isn't clean, utilities aren't reliable.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
But that's my point. I'm not saying they're sitting here
thinking about this on a on a doctorate thesis level.
I'm saying, according to this pole, the things they want
done are the things that only city government can do.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, no, no doubt. And there are folks in New
Orleans that are that are thinking exactly along your lines.
But when you have a city that is so deeply
blue as New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
But that also gets to my point on this, because
when you ask them, is the city on the right
track or is the city on the wrong track? Sixty
seven percent of people in this pole said the city's
on the wrong track. Only twenty four percent said New
Orleans is on the right track, Which brings me to
my next question here that you've got them saying in
the poll what we want done is stuff that really

(30:12):
only a city can do. Only the city can keep
the lights on, only the city can fix the roads,
only the city can fight crime. We want that done,
and we think the city's on the wrong track. So
my question is, given those opinions of the voters, why
in the world are you even considering voting for someone
who's in the same party as as the people that

(30:36):
have been running the city into the ground basically for
the last sixty years.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Because if you're a Democrat, you don't believe it's because
of those policies. It's not because of those individuals or
those so called leaders. It's because the system is rigged
against you. But who made the system?

Speaker 4 (30:53):
If the entire city government has been run by Democrats
since reconstruction. Okay, it has been and you think the
systems rigged against you? Who created the system?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
That requires a moment of someone's got to stop and
really think about it. Because if you have grown up
hearing one party, one ideology, one narrative repeated by your
parents and the schools and the local media, all of
a sudden, it becomes cultural. It becomes that's just what
we do around here. It doesn't matter that the policies

(31:27):
have failed time and time again.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
But that's part of why American Ground Radio broadcasts into
the city of New Orleans, so that some people can
hear some different ideas and maybe understand there's a different way.
And why would you continue to vote for failure? Why
not try another approach sometime? What have you got to lose?
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4 (33:11):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio. Stephen Poward Lewis.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
So United States Representative Clay Higgins. He called, you know,
shortly after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Clay Higgins called
for the immediate Band for Life for social media post
critical of Charlie Kirk. At least that's the headline. Yeah,
I mean, Higgins said, and I quote he's going to

(33:37):
use congressional authority and every influence with big tech platforms
to enact such bands that. You know, Look, I'm a
big fan of Congressman Higgins, but at the same time,
doesn't that sound a little reminiscent of the Biden administration.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
It sounds very reminiscent of the Biden administration, which will
be talking about coming up in the next hour of
the show.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
But now, it's abhorrent that anyone would say anything. I'm
interrupting here, but it's abhorrent. Let's be very clear that
anyone would make such a post, absolutely in the wake
of the assassination, right, But at the same time, it's
your free speech or freedom of speech to do that.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
And again, if you value free speech, I really think
Elon Musk said it very well. Free speech is someone
you don't like saying something you don't like. And I
am in favor of free speech, and I think there's
a difference between saying, Okay, you know, ABC had the
right to suspend Jimmy Kimmel. That's because Jimmy Kimmel was

(34:47):
an employee of ABC. On social media, you're not an
employee of Facebook, you're not an employee of Twitter. You
that is a place where you get to express your thoughts,
your beliefs, whatever you want to express. That's what those
platforms are for. They are simply platforms where people can

(35:08):
publish their.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Thoughts and there are consequences as a result. If your
employer doesn't like what you posted or that it reflects
poorly on their brand, right, they can let you go.
But Congressman Higgins went on to say, I'm also going
after their business licenses and permitting their businesses will be
blacklisted aggressively. They should be kicked from every school, and

(35:32):
their driver's licenses should be revoked. I mean, that's a
direct quote, and then he went on to say, if
that wasn't enough, I'm basically going to cancel with extreme
prejudice these evil, sick animals who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
And I just I can't get behind that. I just
I can't get behind that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I don't think I don't think there's any legal authority
for him to do. So. That may be his opinion,
and I think that speaks for lots of Americans who
feel that way.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
But we've got to get back to I may disagree
with what you say, but I will defend your right
to say it.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Because we are a nation of laws and not and
not of men.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Let's play a game.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Of black battleship, shall we play?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
So? Kamala Haara said in an interview this week that
her election was the closest election in the twenty first century. What, yeah,
she said there was the closest election in the twenty
first century. Okay, So according to the Electoral College, what
were the three closest elections this century? In the Electoral College?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
He had to be Bush Gore.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Oh, interesting point on that one. Bush Gore was in
two thousands, which.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Technically, oh, come on, serious, But there's.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
An important point to this. I'll come back to that
in just a minute. So not Bush Gore. Okay, now
what I don't even think it was the closest elections
in this century.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Court, I don't think it was. Okay, it wasn't gw
and Carrie Bush Carry.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yes, absolutely, that was number one. That's the closest election
this century according to the Electoral College thirty five electoral points.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Okay, all right, all right, so yeah, Bush Carry. And
you're not going to give me credit for Bush Gore. No,
this is a farce for me to even say so.
But statistically, okay, whatever, But I don't believe the numbers
for a moment. Okay, Biden Trump in twenty twenty, that was.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
The second closest seventy four electoral College points.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
There's not that many more.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
You're just just one more.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, it's not that challenging. I don't know. Maybe twenty
sixteen Trump Clinton, that's it.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah, So those are the top three. Seventy seven was
the electroc college votes in that one. Okay, Now, Trump
Harris was eighty six electoral college So according to the
electoral College, she wasn't even in the top three closest
elections of this century. Now by popular vote numbers, what
were the three closest elections of this century?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
By popular all right, so you know, okay, do you
not gonna give me Bush Gore? Okay, fine, by popular
the closest, Well, it had to be. All right, let
me think here for a second, because twenty six I'm
gonna go with twenty sixteen Trump Clinton.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
That's number two. It was two million, eight hundred and
sixty eight thousan six hundred and eighty six votes separating
Trump and Clinton in Clinton's.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Favor, Okay, and you kind of hinted at it, you
were about to kind of give the answer away a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
So Trump Harris, Trump Harris is number one, two million,
two hundred eighty four thousand and nine hundred sixty seven,
so really only twenty thousand votes fifteen thousand votes different
between that and Trump.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
And we know Obama Claubard Romney, so that that wasn't
going to be close. So the only one that really
is left would be let's see, I said Trump, no, no, no,
Bush carry that's the only one. That's the only one
exactly right now.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
This is the story that comm was telling yourself to
make yourself feel better. Only had one hundred and seven days.
I couldn't pick my favorite running mate because he was gay.
I only lost the guy the closest.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
There's anything wrong with being gay, apparently, But if.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
You include the two thousand election, as you were trying
to do, it's not the closest election. George Bush and
al Gore were separated by just five hundred thousand votes.
That was a close election. This one really wasn't.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
You expected her to start telling the truth. Now, Well,
if you pick.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Your statistics, well, you can tell yourself a good story.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
And she did, and she did. She tried to tell us,
we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
You were listening to American Ground Radio.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
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you haven't already.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Wait wait, wait, wait, it's it's that time of the
show already. The hour just flew by.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
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Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Our new studio here just just makes the time fly
by so much, folks.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
You all needed to just come on in. We've got
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Speaker 4 (40:36):
Okay, well not right now, because right now we got
to talk about Magnolia Pit Barbecue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which
has barbecue. It savors the soul of Louisiana barbecue undeniably, undeniably.
You know, I think my favorite because I've I've tried
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salted caramel bread pudding. I think it was my favorite

(40:56):
dish at the because it was so.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
So Let me get this straight. You have an opportunity
to savor the soul of Louisiana barbecue, and you're going
straight for the dessert first.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
I'm telling you. If the soul of Louisiana isn't in
bread pudding, I don't know where it is.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
You have a sweet tooth, don't you. I do, Yeah,
I do.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
And it's satisfied at the Magnoli Pitco check about seven
twenty nine Jordan Street, Ustry Port, right off of Line Avenue,
one blocks south.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Of I twenty. I did want to mention just right quick.
Louisiana's Attorney General, Liz Murrell, and sixteen other Republican attorneys general,
they are now warning college administrators not to impose a
tax on free speech because many of these college administrators

(41:41):
are looking at security for campuses, for their campuses, for
when they bring on guests, you know, folks like a
Charlie Kirk who might be speaking something that some folks
might find controversial enough to want to have some sort
of alter care. And so a lot of these universities

(42:02):
aren't taking any chances. But in order to beef up
security that takes monney and Monney has to be paid
by someone, and generally would be those organizations sponsoring the
speaker in the first place. So the attorney these attorneys
general from sixteen states are saying, look, you can't go

(42:23):
down that road. But the question is who pays for it?
Is this a federal government, is this a new legislation
in Congress?

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Or state government having to pay for It's a state university.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
So that controversial speakers can continue to go on to
our college campuses.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
We got more American Ground Radio coming up. Stick around
the second hour

Speaker 1 (42:44):
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