June 30, 2023 • 6 mins
Google has followed fellow tech giant Meta in announcing it will block Canadian news content from its search engine in Canada after days of negotiations with the Liberal government hit an impasse over its recently passed online news bill.
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From the AI Radio slash TV Newsbroadcast network headline Google to block access to
Canadian News for anyone living in Canada. Lead. Google has followed fellow tech
giant Metter in announcing it will blockCanadian news content from its search engine in
Canada after days of negotiations with theLiberal government hid an Ampass over its recently
(00:24):
passed online news bill. Lead story. Google has followed fellow tech giant Metter
in announcing it will block Canadian newscontent from its search engine in Canada after
days of negotiations with the Liberal governmenthid an Ampass over its recently passed online
News bill. We have been sayingfor over a year that this is the
(00:46):
wrong approach to supporting journalism in Canadaand may result in significant changes to our
products. A blog post from KentWalker, the company's president of global affairs,
read Thursday. We have now informedthat the that when the law takes
effect, we unfortunately will have toremove links to Canadian News from our Search,
(01:06):
News and Discover products in Canada,and that C eighteen will also make
it untenable for us to continue offeringour Google News Showcase product in Canada.
The Online News Act past last Thursday, and would force platforms like Google and
Meta, Facebook and Instagram's parent companyto strike deals with Canadian media publishers for
sharing, previewing, and directing usersto online news content. The liberals say
(01:32):
the law is meant to end techtitans dominance of the digital advertising market,
stating that in twenty twenty, bothplatforms took in more than eighty percent of
Canadian online advertising revenues as the country'sjournalism industry faced hundreds of closures. Under
the new framework, platforms would facefinancial penalties for failing to comply with the
(01:53):
legislation. A number of news publishers, including Torstar, which publishes the Toronto
Star, have lobbied Ottawa in favorof the legislation and already have deals in
place with both companies for the sharingand repurposing of their content. Torstar,
along with other publishers, has partneredwith Google for its news Showcase service,
(02:14):
which helps boost the profile of trustedpublishers. When will My Canadian News be
cut off? It is expected thatthe law, previously known as Bill C
eighteen, will come into effect insix months time, which is when Google
is set to pull the trigger.The company had been hoping for specific reassurances
from Ottawa before the regulatory process,where further details regarding how the law will
(02:38):
work in practice will be finalized,gets under way. Last week, just
as the bill was approaching final passageand royal assent, the government agreed to
discuss the possibility of addressing some ofthe most critical issues, which we welcomed.
In that discussion, we asked forclarity on financial expectations platforms face for
simply linking to news, as wellas a specific viable path towards exemption based
(03:02):
on our programs to support news andour commercial agreements with publishers. Walker's Post
notes, while we appreciate the government'sacknowledgment that our concerns were reasonable and confirmation
that the law will not apply untilthey adopt implementing regulations, they have not
provided us with sufficient certainty that theregulatory process will be able to resolve structural
(03:23):
issues with the legislation, such asforced payment for links and uncapped financial liability.
The decision comes as Canada's news industryis grappling with major moves to navigate
the future of journalism in this country. On Tuesday, nord Star Capital,
which owns the Toronto Star, andMetroland Media and Postmedia, which owns the
(03:45):
National Post and daily newspapers across thecountry, shared news of a potential merger
between the two companies. Two weeksearlier, CTV's parent company announced it was
slashing one thousand, three hundred positionsand closing or selling nine radio stations.
It is believed that Google and metterscombined responses could result in millions of dollars
(04:06):
in lost revenue for Canadian news publishers, possibly resulting in the shuttering of some
smaller and independent outlets. Both platformsstaunchly opposed the bill from its earliest stages,
arguing they will be unfairly forced intoagreements for driving significant amounts of traffic
to online news outlets and generating keyrevenue for publishers. As a result.
(04:29):
Google Canada has said the company linkedto Canadian news publishers more than three point
six billion times in twenty twenty two, pushing an estimated two hundred and fifty
million dollars worth of value to Canadianpublishers. Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez told The
Star on Tuesday that both sides hadbeen engaging in constructive conversations and working towards
(04:50):
a solution. I understand that theyneed more certainty, they need more clarity,
which from a business perspective makes alot of se I always base my
decisions and my actions on common sense. If it's logical, if it makes
sense, then I'm definitely ready todiscuss and see what we can do together,
(05:11):
the minister said. But those talkshit a deadlock, with a Google
source telling The Star late Wednesday thecompany was far from reaching an agreement.
Google has been more cautious in movingforward with its threats compared to Meta,
which announced last week it would officiallyban news content from being posted or shared
on Facebook and Instagram in Canada.In the hours before C eighteen received royal
(05:33):
assent, Meta Canada's head of publicpolicy told CBC's Power and Politics on Tuesday
that because the bill passed without thecompany's desired changes, it's too late for
the government to resolve the standoff throughregulatory changes. We are proceeding towards ending
the availability of news permanently in Canada, said Rachel Curran. We wish we
(05:56):
weren't here, but we are here. There's really nothing at this point that's
going to alter that trajectory. Rodrigueztold The Star earlier that day that if
the company wanted to meet with him, they have my cell phone. The
minister also said he doesn't make decisionsbased on threats and that he never will
From the AI Radio slash TV Newsbroadcast network headline Google to block access to
Canadian News for anyone living in Canada. Lead. Google has followed fellow tech
giant Metter in announcing it will blockCanadian news content from its search engine in
Canada after days of negotiations with theLiberal government hid an Ampass over its recently
(00:24):
passed online news bill. Lead story. Google has followed fellow tech giant Metter
in announcing it will block Canadian newscontent from its search engine in Canada after
days of negotiations with the Liberal governmenthid an Ampass over its recently passed online
News bill. We have been sayingfor over a year that this is the
(00:46):
wrong approach to supporting journalism in Canadaand may result in significant changes to our
products. A blog post from KentWalker, the company's president of global affairs,
read Thursday. We have now informedthat the that when the law takes
effect, we unfortunately will have toremove links to Canadian News from our Search,
(01:06):
News and Discover products in Canada,and that C eighteen will also make
it untenable for us to continue offeringour Google News Showcase product in Canada.
The Online News Act past last Thursday, and would force platforms like Google and
Meta, Facebook and Instagram's parent companyto strike deals with Canadian media publishers for
sharing, previewing, and directing usersto online news content. The liberals say
(01:32):
the law is meant to end techtitans dominance of the digital advertising market,
stating that in twenty twenty, bothplatforms took in more than eighty percent of
Canadian online advertising revenues as the country'sjournalism industry faced hundreds of closures. Under
the new framework, platforms would facefinancial penalties for failing to comply with the
(01:53):
legislation. A number of news publishers, including Torstar, which publishes the Toronto
Star, have lobbied Ottawa in favorof the legislation and already have deals in
place with both companies for the sharingand repurposing of their content. Torstar,
along with other publishers, has partneredwith Google for its news Showcase service,
(02:14):
which helps boost the profile of trustedpublishers. When will My Canadian News be
cut off? It is expected thatthe law, previously known as Bill C
eighteen, will come into effect insix months time, which is when Google
is set to pull the trigger.The company had been hoping for specific reassurances
from Ottawa before the regulatory process,where further details regarding how the law will
(02:38):
work in practice will be finalized,gets under way. Last week, just
as the bill was approaching final passageand royal assent, the government agreed to
discuss the possibility of addressing some ofthe most critical issues, which we welcomed.
In that discussion, we asked forclarity on financial expectations platforms face for
simply linking to news, as wellas a specific viable path towards exemption based
(03:02):
on our programs to support news andour commercial agreements with publishers. Walker's Post
notes, while we appreciate the government'sacknowledgment that our concerns were reasonable and confirmation
that the law will not apply untilthey adopt implementing regulations, they have not
provided us with sufficient certainty that theregulatory process will be able to resolve structural
(03:23):
issues with the legislation, such asforced payment for links and uncapped financial liability.
The decision comes as Canada's news industryis grappling with major moves to navigate
the future of journalism in this country. On Tuesday, nord Star Capital,
which owns the Toronto Star, andMetroland Media and Postmedia, which owns the
(03:45):
National Post and daily newspapers across thecountry, shared news of a potential merger
between the two companies. Two weeksearlier, CTV's parent company announced it was
slashing one thousand, three hundred positionsand closing or selling nine radio stations.
It is believed that Google and metterscombined responses could result in millions of dollars
(04:06):
in lost revenue for Canadian news publishers, possibly resulting in the shuttering of some
smaller and independent outlets. Both platformsstaunchly opposed the bill from its earliest stages,
arguing they will be unfairly forced intoagreements for driving significant amounts of traffic
to online news outlets and generating keyrevenue for publishers. As a result.
(04:29):
Google Canada has said the company linkedto Canadian news publishers more than three point
six billion times in twenty twenty two, pushing an estimated two hundred and fifty
million dollars worth of value to Canadianpublishers. Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez told The
Star on Tuesday that both sides hadbeen engaging in constructive conversations and working towards
(04:50):
a solution. I understand that theyneed more certainty, they need more clarity,
which from a business perspective makes alot of se I always base my
decisions and my actions on common sense. If it's logical, if it makes
sense, then I'm definitely ready todiscuss and see what we can do together,
(05:11):
the minister said. But those talkshit a deadlock, with a Google
source telling The Star late Wednesday thecompany was far from reaching an agreement.
Google has been more cautious in movingforward with its threats compared to Meta,
which announced last week it would officiallyban news content from being posted or shared
on Facebook and Instagram in Canada.In the hours before C eighteen received royal
(05:33):
assent, Meta Canada's head of publicpolicy told CBC's Power and Politics on Tuesday
that because the bill passed without thecompany's desired changes, it's too late for
the government to resolve the standoff throughregulatory changes. We are proceeding towards ending
the availability of news permanently in Canada, said Rachel Curran. We wish we
(05:56):
weren't here, but we are here. There's really nothing at this point that's
going to alter that trajectory. Rodrigueztold The Star earlier that day that if
the company wanted to meet with him, they have my cell phone. The
minister also said he doesn't make decisionsbased on threats and that he never will
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