Bizzy Bone Explores Spiritual and Occult Realms

Bizzy Bone from Bone Thugs and Harmony, renowned for his rapid-fire rapping style, is also a profound thinker with an expansive understanding of spiritual and philosophical subjects. His music often explores mystical and metaphysical ideas, which is the focus of this episode where TruthSeekah engages with Bizzy Bone to delve into a spectrum of esoteric and spiritual matters. During this captivating discussion, they explore a variety of topics including God, angelology, UFOs and aliens, extraterrestrial encounters, spirituality, divine entities, and the mysterious realms of the occult.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Right off the bat. I believethat Busybone is one of the greatest rappers
of all times. He's one ofmy top three favorite rappers of all times,
him, Crazy Bone, Tupac.Definitely been listening to this guy since
I was a little kid man.Watching some of his recent interviews, he
talks about a lot of esoteric occultknowledge. He sprinkles stuff throughout his music

(00:23):
and talking about the Wheezy Board andaliens and UFOs and things like this.
So I wanted to have them onthe show to go into detail about some
of these subjects, which he's kindof touched on in other interviews, but
I wanted to elaborate and go intosome of those details. So many of
the questions that I ask him mayseem out of left field, but they

(00:44):
are from notes that I have takenfrom other interviews with him sprinkling knowledge here
and there, trying to get himto go into more details. So I
hope you guys enjoyed this show.Thanks so much for tuning in, and
if you would please share it,please like us and follow us all that
good stuff. I'm true Seeker andhere we go, all right, truth
SEEKA how you doing man? I'mglad finally linked up with you, finally,

(01:08):
man. I've been trying to makethis happen for a long time.
Brother, Man. You know,I wanted to make sure that we made
this happen. Is really really important. And I've seen your Instagram and I
love your outlook on life and allthings to all men and things of that
nature and the human race and allof that cool stuff that you're on and

(01:29):
also the spirituality. Just to evenmention it, it's just a fether in
your cap to me, man.So let's get started. Yeah, that's
what's up, man. Well,that's what this phone call is going to
be about. I've been seeing somevideos. I've been watching some of your
interviews and seeing you going off withsome live performances dropping some knowledge man,
and kind of wanted to pick yourbrain a little bit about some of these

(01:53):
topics and spirituality and how some ofthese things relate to your life, man,
and we'll grab you struble man,grat Man. It's a whole lot
of notice, it's a whole lotof nonsense in my mind. Stuff out
ready. Man. So spirituality,man, how does that play a part
in your life? What is yourspiritual practice? Man? I mean,

(02:13):
well, man, spirituality, Man, I look out of it as far
as invisibility, face, imagination andlaugh what you want, And there's all
aspects of want. You understand it, because we're a lot of kind of
people in the human race. Likewe're not all nice and humble, but

(02:35):
we're not all killers either, youknow what I mean. And there's also
the mid wedge and those things youknow I forget, you know, spirituality,
you know, like people's dreams,people's imaginations and stuff like that,
and then the person that they areand what they want to see, you
know, and you know, aspiritual kind of accepts. So I just

(02:58):
look at it like that, youknow what I mean, kind of way
I was able to put stuff together. Yeah, and you know, to
realize the good and even what peoplemight consider bad, you know. Yeah.
So basically in a sense, you'retalking about your imagination. So you
believe people create their own reality withtheir thoughts and their dreams and ideas,

(03:19):
and they can make that manifest intothis reality. I mean, I think
that anything is possible with that becauseit's a lot of lonely things that have
power as well, so you knowthat are different and are lonely because they're
different. So even if it's yourwildest imagination, it might be exactly what

(03:40):
somebody is like or what somebody needs, you know, or whatever it might
be. You know. So that'skind of like how I look at spirituality
as a word. But like whatI follow, I'm a firm believer in
Jesus. I'm a firm believer inthe bridegreing theory. I'm a firm believer
and the connection of human and Godand the highest capacity that God is willing

(04:08):
to let that human go and thehuman is willing to let God go,
that union, that bond, andthat's my thing right there, you know.
So that's my belief as far asthat goes outside of myself. But
like for myself, like you know, you know, you know, you
can't be selfish. You know,you got to go you know, and

(04:31):
you know, look out for otherpeople and stuff like that first and foremost,
because it might guide you at theend of the day to something that
is meant to be for you,and you have a lot less free will
of choosing, and that takes alot of ego out and so on and
so forth. So that way,it's just like, hey, this is

(04:51):
meant to be, and this iswhere you wind up and stuff. This
is what you made yourself to be. So that's kind of my religion as
far as once we get pasted alot of the things that are already documented
and that are already put in place, then you know, later on,
you know, you might have somethingfor yourself later, later, later,
later in life, you know whatI mean, Because I have a good

(05:13):
life, you know, lated inmusic awards and records and all kind of
cool stuff, you know, SoI can't really ask for anything until I'm
able to accept what's already put inthe place. If that makes sense,
Yeah, totally, man. Iwant to go a little bit deeper,

(05:34):
man, right off the back,you know, we're just getting started.
I want to talk to you alittle bit about angelology. Oh angelology,
sure, sure, Okay. Iwant to ask you who is the angel
neurial? The angel neurial? Idon't know, man. My whole angel

(05:54):
philosophy and how I look at theangelical kingdo? Yeah? Is it has
its own order and my life ispatterned different than the order that's already set
in if that makes sense. Ithink that each angel is an individual and

(06:16):
an order within themselves. They havethat. You know, they're ten commandments
there, they're just one angel.Just one angel by theirself is a ten
commandments and all of those different thingsthat suffice you know, not being human
and having the brain and thinking it'smore of streaming. And now you had

(06:40):
in you know, the Python riverand Eden and you have this stream and
that stream and that stream and thatstream and so on and so forth.
And then you know, once youstart going off into you know, trying
to figure it out immediately good andbad, pop side and then judgment.
So I kind of leaned back andjust you know, give everything that I

(07:02):
possibly would want for myself if Iwas in that place, If that makes
sense. Yeah, the way Icame up, I don't know. I
don't know them specific. I don'tknow specific angel exactly. Okay, Yeah.
The way I got that name wasI did some research after watching an
interview with you about a specific angelthat stands three hundred parasangs tall. Now,

(07:27):
I looked up those terms that youused in an interview, and and
it came up to be an angelby the name of Neurial, which represents
the fire of the Lord. Aboutthese illuminary angelic beings, and I wanted
to just kind of touch on thata little bit to see you know what
I'm saying, just to kind ofpick your brain, man. I mean
well, I mean basically, Ithink that covers thoughts versus streams, and

(07:53):
I think the only way to explainthinking versus streaming angels is stay fire,
you know, electricity AKA. SoI think that even if that wasn't what
was meant to be said or whatit was meant to be, when it
fits perfectly and you get one ofthose, I feel good now, I'm

(08:18):
okay. I like that. Thenyou know, within that, I think
that's growth. And I think thatstuff that human beings do every single day,
you know, every single day oftheir life is help angels and vice
versa, because if the angel iswith you, then you are sinless at
that point, no matter what youdo, because to them, whether it's

(08:41):
a bite of food, whether it'sa breath of fresh air, it's like,
hey, you know, we're inthe room of a billion different life
forms. We don't tune into them. This angel is here to take that
away from us. If you thinkthat deeply about right and wrong, so
on and sofio. So I lookat it in that kind of an intricate

(09:03):
kind of a way. But youhave to be a deep, deep,
deep individual and understand that. Youknow, Yeah, we definitely have a
lot of deep people who are intodeep thought that tune into the podcast and
you know, ask the bigger questionsin life, and a lot of people
are into a lot of different things. When we're talking about this angelic order

(09:24):
and these things like that, andwe talk about electricity, Man, whenever
you said that there was an interviewwhere you were talking about seeing an apparition
come down from the lightning that itwas you and I believe it was flesh
seeing this apparition come down from heaven. Man, can you talk a little
bit more about that. Well,I don't think it was so much heaven.

(09:45):
I just think that, you know, when I see certain things,
I'm going to immediately answer that I'mgoing to immediately I'm going to make,
you know, a normal thing thatI can explain sign and typically more because
it's an angel name on it,and so on and so forth, because

(10:07):
I want to make sure that theroad is set just in case, you
know, there's ever a problem withthe flight patterns with the order, or
if the order doesn't exist any longerbecause a lot of orders die because of
certain things faces and things of thatnature. Like Moses, he lived,

(10:28):
you know for a long time,and you know, but the Beloved didn't,
you know. And when Moses came, they changed. When when Beloved
was here, they changed, Andsince then things have been at that stand
still. In my mind, it'sjust been at a stand still from that

(10:50):
point on, you know, Ithink that it was more of who is
going to stop this merch that's aboutto take place? You understand that they're
there if they're taking care of,you know, human beings and interacting with

(11:13):
them in a coherence of where thehuman knows. I got an angel with
new brothers, got out brother andit's just gown intellectually, insight wise.
When you talk to yourself, thatvalve in your brain, When you pray,
that canal, When you breathe,that canal, and so on and
so forth. So I think thatthere has been a certain amount of let's

(11:37):
say, weight lifting to fortify,to strengthen, and so on and so
forth. So I think that atthat point it just starts to get confused,
and us as people we seek outand wonder why, and the truth
may hurt us to the point ofwhere we stop looking when it's flat out

(12:01):
and it's bold and it's blatant,and you're like, this is lost,
and then people will tend to say, well, that is wrong. Why
would I look for something like that? So some things are best untouched.
So that way, the people thatnormally seek angelical order, were angels or

(12:22):
just that entire vibe aren't caped bya truth that they weren't there to experience,
nor was the Internet there. Andwhat people got to understand is once
computers came into play, all humansbecame geniuses. All humans immediately knew every

(12:43):
fucking thing everything. Once you lookat that computer, it's every answer you
could possibly imagine. So that basicallythe realm of truth just saturated the minds
of the human race. Since thecomputer chip, and since the computer,

(13:03):
who people say and life of peoplesay is an artificial brain, and so
on and so forth, And that'sanother level of course, and what's happening
about later. So that's where Ithink that we're at this point, and
some people don't notice it and don'twant to notice it because if they start
to notice it, then they're goingto be hurt about what they see.

(13:26):
And what they hear and so onand so forth. Has that come to
play for you with studying? Imean me, man, I'm more,
I'm a gift givner. I decidedthe best way to get away from all
of the pain of the truth andall of the pain of why you should

(13:48):
do something and why you shouldn't dosomething, the best way is to give
as many things as you can withinthat so it never is an issue.
It's like, hey, I don'tcare about this any longer. I have
what I want. You know,somebody actually gave a damn about what I

(14:09):
wanted in life. And I meanangelical why because nobody just basically said,
hey, w came to Michael,is anything that you like on us?
I mean, I know they're savingall these people and everything, and you
know, I see you running overthere, mother Teresa, and I see
you there at the deathbed of lotsof humans who are making a transition to

(14:31):
heaven, and I see it,Is there anything that you wanted or anything?
Because I don't know if anyone evenasked you, I mean, did
you want anything? So that's mystyle, and that's what I do to
cover up the bullshit and and andthe things that can sway you from even
asking that question, because you knowit can numb me. Man. And

(14:54):
that's it, and and that's it. And I don't know, you know,
you never know. I I knowit's different for everybody. I know
it's different for everybody. Like wehave, you know what I'm saying.
We I think we have a lotof people who have came before us,
who have made certain packs. Weunderstand people like Tesla was involved with angelic

(15:15):
contact as well, and we seethe knowledge and the information that was imparted
to him right to the earth.So basically like this, just like you
just said, is that shit rightthere? Tesla? Dude, that's the
name of a fucking car. Sowhatever pact was made from this point forward
with whomever that was, every timea goddamn Tesla passed, then the knowledge

(15:37):
therefore should be abundant. And that'show you do it. And that's exactly
what you just said. Exactly whatyou just said. You modernize it,
and you make it for this dayand for this time twenty and sixteen right
now up until you know they're anew renaissance of knowledge or technology, and

(16:00):
that right there there, you gotit, go ahead, continue, Yeah,
So basically instead of taking the occultknowledge, the really esoteric stuff and
just putting out their plane, youtake it and formulate it in a way
whether people can understand it. Imean, it has to be plain and
simple. You know, when youstart throwing up if it's true or if

(16:22):
it's not, that's gonna be inthe eyes of the beholme ex That's when
you'll find out. When you saythis is what I think about it,
I'm stepping back. Whether something happenswith it or not, that's totally on
who the promise was made to.That's totally on who the order was told
to. And that would be alanguage or a way of life, or

(16:48):
a flight pattern or welcome back toEarth or some cool shit like that.
You know, it just it justhappens per being of a spiritual order,
if that makes sense. Oh yeah, definitely. Definitely. When I go
out and make a connection when I'mstargazing, when I'm gazing into the heavens,
man, like, the connection Iget is just different things. It's

(17:10):
like, Okay, if you wantto keep this connection up, if you
want to stay on that path,this is what I require of you.
And for me, I could sayit's been a blessing because it's been something
that helps me. It's like,look, true secret, you need to
deal with your diet. Quit eatingall the meat, start eating more vegetation,
start taking care of your temple.Do this, spend time and meditation,

(17:33):
and then we can go to thenext level. Right. So I
kind of see that as far aslike you're saying, what do you want
talking to the angels? What doyou want for me to do so that
we can communicate, right, okaywith staying for me, take care of
your body, and so I thinkthat's what you're talking about as far as
like asking them what they want,and so I think it's something that's going

(17:57):
to be a blessing. I don'tthink it's going to be like, you
know, take a life. Youknow, this is what I want you
to do. I want you tokill someone. I want you to do
this. I want you to dosomething negative. What's your opinion on that?
People you know, claim they hearvoices and the demons wanted them to
do something. Are they negative forcesas well? I'll be honest, I'll
be honest with you. Nobody satwith flesh and bone for ten years in

(18:21):
jail. So that's the answer,you know what I mean, that's the
answer. Nobody sat with him injail for ten years. Whatever was on
him or whatever I've seen or whatevermay have happened when he went to jail,
wasn't there no more. So itdidn't mean that. So I have
like first first point example. Yeah, of that, but that's his life,

(18:45):
you know, that's that's his thing. You know, that's something that
he's on, you know. Sothat's that's my idea. As far as
me, I'm so secure within myselfand I'm so secure with the things that
I have a confiet whether it beworldly or otherworldly, that it's just more
of hey, BB set man,My BB is really really, really really

(19:10):
set to just be okay for eternity. Because whether kids punched, stabbed,
shot, hurt, talked about,rip cule, stripped, great a Nigga
steel, not blaming nobody even ifthey want to blame, and so on

(19:33):
and so forth. So it's beingvery very of a clear conscience no matter
what may happen to you at thatpoint. So there is a blame game
that goes on, and that blamegame covers us. So when some shit
really happened, you can always differinto. It wasn't nobody with Jeffrey dahmergot

(19:55):
so it couldn't have been nobody withyou need and and that's how you swarve
that shit. That's how you getaway from you did. Whether it's happening
or not. You feel me becauseyou know, besides, besides the fact
of it's painful to have to bearound somebody that's done you wrong, it's

(20:18):
even more painful to have to bearound somebody that's done you wrong that will
never get disciplined for it like ever. And that's one thing that I think
people need to understand about angels.They will never be hit ever, they
will never be touched ever. Andthat's my study. No matter what they

(20:41):
do, no matter where they go, ain't nobody gonna put that goddamn hands
on no angel. They'll fly tofuck out that body and that human that
they occupy gonna take that ass piece. So that alone is enough for me
to say my human race did good. God damn it, we did good.

(21:03):
We did good. Babies some almostlike you. You better respect the
authority, you know, I mean, it's a better respect that is already
set in place without the words evenhappen to come out so we get no
more anger involved, you know,because that just agitates the situation even more.

(21:26):
Just you know, it just agitatesit, you know what I mean
it and it takes it to alevel of well why you know, it's
like, well, there are inall of that shit you did, so
there's just an unspoken order and unspokenword that's just known. There are plenty
of examples, but why you thenit just strums up messed up selings at

(21:48):
things. And then oh, wellthat's why that angel's order didn't get completed,
and that's why and so on andall that malarkey and so on and
so forth. Know what I mean, It gets to the point where if
you discuss the problems, then theydon't they don't like leaves. But if
you look towards the brighter, brighterfuture, and if you really understand the

(22:11):
humans eventually become angels in human heaven, like exactly what the angels, you
know, what we said the angelslook like in books, we're basically drawing
what we're gonna look like in heavenbecause we don't see anything with wings out
here. We just don't, like, we just don't, and that's what

(22:33):
we're used to and that's what wedrew, and that's what we thought,
and so on and so forth,so wound up being for us. So
when you get that part and thenyou see that part of how things coincide
and how things grow, then youknow, you start to realize the benefits

(22:56):
of Let's not focus on the negativeright now. Let's let's talk about the
good stuff. I mean, you'regood there, you know, no doubt.
I think that's why the scripture saysthat if there's anything true, if
there's anything noble, if there's anythingpure, think on these things. Let's
speak about these things. Let's don'tfocus on the negativity, because you begin

(23:18):
to give birth to that stuff.You begive again, give birth to anxiety
and fear and doubt and hatred andthings like that. So yeah, that's
that's powerful. Man. We're likereally tapping into spirituality on those basic principles
of just thinking of just your thoughtpatterns. Man, no doubt, totally.
Whenever we're talking about this angelic order, which we've referred to as the

(23:44):
Luminaries, you mentioned they fly aroundthe earth faster than seven times in one
second. Have you physically seen anyof these type of entities, man,
I know you said you've seen thatone. I don't think I've seen it.
I don't think i've seen it tothe point of, yeah, I
prevent it to someone else. Butit was more of something that's happening right

(24:04):
now, and it's not just worldlybecause what I've experienced more is, you
know, if they're flying at thatfast of rate, then how are they
going to sustain a temple that fast? It's like they would have to go

(24:25):
from It's like it's like a longass line of people, right, and
they fly that fast, right,so by the time they're at the first
person, they're already at the lastperson that fast. So there is no
focus. Do you understand what I'msaying? So, you know, I
don't want to I don't want todrudge up the things that do have focused

(24:52):
and the things that do have wherewithto, you know, bring forth any
one I want. I want becauseevery thing is intricately beautiful in its own
way and a part of its ownorder within itself. Yeah, So what
would you say to somebody man whowas just like stuck on tapping into that

(25:12):
and seeing something manifest from the heavenlyesright or just from the other side in
general? Like I was at apoint where I wanted to see something so
bad that I was contacting negative entities, right, and I wasn't going to
be happy until I seen something.So I'm getting that you somewhat have an
agenda, Like you're just kind ofsaying, look, don't focus on that

(25:33):
stuff, focus on what is here, what we can influence, what we
can see to I would, tobe honest with you, I will go
directly to the place that we're walkingon. I go directly to master.
I go directly on the spiritual bodythat we can see, the big blue
ball earth. Yeah, it's massive, and it's nothing but life on it,

(26:00):
but life, and it's there,it exists, and we're here,
and it sustains them. It fortifiesus, It loves us, It gives
us a place to live. Itfunctions in a way so we can breathe,
which we can and love and soon and so forth. And it's
a circle and it's blue, andit's huge, and it's ours and we're

(26:27):
here, so there is no furtherthat we have to look. Now within
that might be something cool because we'rehere, we're kind of cool too,
and so on and so forth.So I would go more cosmos with it,
you know, I would go moreplanets with it. I would go

(26:48):
more in soups Jupiter, Venus andthe studies of that level in order to
solidify, you know, exactly whatit is that we're looking for, you
know, as far as that goes. Because within that, like there's Zeus
and Venus. Within that, Venusis a planet, dude, like seriously,

(27:15):
and it's not considered the nager,but it's definitely considered a spiritual body
being and so on. Yeah,so that's that's to me, is the
answer to the seeking and to thelooking and so on and so forth.
It's all right there, dude,It's all right there. Definitely. Yeah,

(27:37):
it is something, you know what. And that's something that for me,
like it kind of brought more substanceto my belief system and my spirituality
was the fact that I could goout in stargates, I could go out
there and make my connection with thecreator, right and ask to see something,
to ask for one of the angelsto slow down enough for me to

(27:59):
see it, right, and thencome to find out these were these entities
traveling back and forth from these differentplanets to Earth, right, they were
traveling back and forth, just asa scripture say, it talks about they
travel back and forth, these differentprincipalities and powers, and so I think
for me it made more sense thatit was something that was literally out there,

(28:22):
like in the cosmos, not somethingthat was in another realm that may
be real, that may not bereal, but something that is out there
in space traveling back and forth.So yeah, there is a lot to
it. There is an order tothese things. Well, you can't forget
about aliens, and that a lotof people because the aliens aren't making direct

(28:45):
contact with us, they got alot more answers, and we can imagine
they've watched Earth regenerate time after timeafter time after time again. You know,
when it's entire camp, with theentire theology and the entire literature die,

(29:08):
Earth continues to live. And Ithink that the answer might be because
it hasn't presented itself as a fullbeing to be complained to at that point.
Well, what happens during the galaxybump? You know, so by

(29:29):
Earth not being a being, youget a lot of complaints. So like
your average Joe Schmo, you know, you get a lot of people looking
around and different things about nature becausethey give up on where they are,
and then they think that they're moreoutside of it. They think that they're

(29:51):
more yet they're looking for instead ofwhat they are. Like, you can
look for something, find it andnot because you were looking for it anyway,
so it ain't within you. Didyou have to go look for it,
you know. So I think thatthat's where the confusion sets in.

(30:12):
You add in a little power,you add in a little you know,
anger, and so on and soforth, and you know, you might
think you're immortal because you're you havean opportunity to speak to something outside of
it that may just come here fora minute for something totally outside of what

(30:33):
was looking for, totally outside ofit, totally outside of it, had
nothing to do with it at all. So those are the balances that you
have to just deal with. Likeyou said, your name's truth speaker,
you know, and the truth isright there in our face. You know.
If anything that you're dealing with doesn'tunderstand where it was during the last

(30:59):
galaxy bump and what they were doing, then if they really don't know,
then that means they're here on Earthup until the galaxy bump, and then
it's a cleansing, a suring out, and then the new camp comes in.
I think a lot of people aswell, like you're saying, when
they see something like that or theymake contact or whatever. You do have

(31:22):
those people who get on the kickthat I am the messenger, I am
the one that is put here tosave the people, or I'm the only
one who can do this type deal. Man. We see a lot of
those people pop up, you know, who have had encounters or claim to
be contact these or something like that. To me, yes, it's all
about who's listening, because it's likeyou got bums on the corner that talk

(31:47):
to themselves all day, every day, and a motherfucker just look at them
and say, he's bumbed, heain't got no money, you feel me,
he can say what the fuck hewants. And then he got motherfuckers
who are rich as fucked He's life, it's flourished and say the same thing.
And then that's when they say youknow about them, Oh, he
thinks he's a goddamn messenger. Lookat his goddamn jewelry. Goddamn, he's

(32:10):
got a fucking rolex on now thefucking he g a fucking message and it's
like, well, goddamn, thebum just said the same shit, the
same exact ship, the same exactshit, and actually went a little further
and said he was one of them. So I think that once you balance
that out, you start to realizewhere those questions are coming from, and

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it just becomes you know, likewow, you know, like damn just
bold, blatant truth. If they'regonna say that shit about the guy with
the rolex on and knock the bumin the streets who's way worse, who's
day in and day out, isnot washing his ass, he only begs
for other fucking money. He willnot work at all because he is entitled

(32:57):
to get money from whoever lever.Don't give him money, blessed, that's
crazy as the fuck. That's somecrazy ass, wrong ass shit. It's
like, bruh, we're all outhere working productive society, and you're saying
that we're evil because we don't giveyou a god dare dollar, and all

(33:19):
day and all night we're all evilas fuck, and the only nigga to
give you a dollar is a goodjoy And you know, so it's a
thought soucess out there that's just likethat. But it's never addressed, you
know, and that's when you startgetting in the you know what the real
reason is, you know, behindall of that. If that makes freaking

(33:42):
sense, you know, yeah,there's a lot more to it than There's
a lot of stuff taking places inthe hearts and minds of individuals across the
globe. Man, And people haveseen some things that they, you know,
I guess, haven't been able tocome back from. I know that's
what I've think. Some streachers.Shit happened, Man, I've watched my
mom, Oh my goodness, getdamn near every bone in their body broke.

(34:06):
Man, you know, just overlooking for fucking love, dude,
you know, totally totally not spiritual, totally nothing there, just man,
I've seen that shit happen up untilI got a little older and I was
able to start carrying guns and soon and so forth, and then I
was able to protect my mom.But I couldn't protect my mom when I

(34:29):
was a little baby, you knowwhat I mean. But I made it
when I was, like I say, fourteen, fifteen years old, I
met easy Aroun. I'm fifty sixteenyears old. I left out to los
Angus said about fifteen, So whenI finally was in. Even before then,
you know, I was. Iwas there at that door, like,
if you touch my mom, I'mgonna shoot you in your fucking head

(34:49):
with your own gun. You know. So I've seen it in so many
levels, and I've reacted on it, not angelically, but something PU be
back front it. The toughest dudein the world did nothing but kick my
ass. You know. I goback on him, fourteen years old,

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and I'm like, you're gonna dowhat you want to do anyway, bring
it. Yeah, I knew wherethe gun was. I planned everything out.
I even planned on going to jail, and for the first mother fucking
comes, that motherfucker creased like hehad an angel with him. And I
had shot like a few people already, you know, when I'm you know,

(35:29):
and so on and so forth,because I'm open and I'm candid.
I'm a street nigga, like butI was a baby though at that time,
thirteen fourteen years old. Ooh lookand so on and so forth.
So I was ready. I hadfully went in the group camp, fully
win in the training like a militaryman, and at that point, you
know, it was more of maybeit was good that I that that guy

(35:53):
creased at that time, maybe thatwas a good point in my life because
maybe I would has not been ableto go out to California, to the
Easy or any of these different things. Yeah. So, I mean that's
where my mind state is and that'swhy I was at with it. So
there is a difference in blaming,accepting some help and so on and so

(36:21):
forth. Is just when when yourcourage is questioned and things of that nature
as a human being, and it'squestioned on a spiritual level, and being
tough becomes the basis, and whatyou're used to is being held back from

(36:42):
murder, rightful murder. I waslife in that situation. I was fucking
right, and then to be totallytwisted around on some tough shit, then
you might have a question or two. It's like, well why that?
And then now that I'm used tohumble, I'm used to the toughest ombre

(37:06):
pulling me back, you know.So it goes into those different things.
So you just got to stay awayfrom blame. You gotta stay away from
you know, drudging up different thingsand just try to get past that shit,
you know, get passed the wholeall of a sudden til and all
that other bullshit. You just gottaget pasted. Let that shit go,

(37:30):
and learn how to progress in life. Understand what the galaxy bump is,
Understand where they are with it,Understand the goodness and whoever, make sure
you give a good shot out tothe ones that holds you back from some
treacherous shit and move on. Andthat's all you can really freaking do.
Man. You know, that's theonly way that you can assist in aid

(37:52):
spiritual beings is to protect them fromthe galaxy bump. Because once this earth
regenerates, it's all over, bruh. It's all over. All the names,
all the books. I know you'vewatched movies to where you've seen this
and seen what happens when the Earthregenerates. Ain't no more literature, ain't

(38:12):
no more computer chips, ain't nomore knowledge, ain't no deeds, ain't
no tasks, ain't no churches.And then it takes what billions and billions,
And I mean, the Earth iswhat four point fifty four billion years
old right now? It's not twothousand and sixteen, bruh, it's four
point fifty four billions year and countingfly. And that's scientifically stated. Could

(38:45):
be off of a million or two, add as much extra time you need
to add on to it. That'sreally what the fuck is going on,
and people need to realize that firstget out of this. It's twenty sixteen,
I got damn at the time fora spiritual running from no boooo,
it's four point fifty four billion.It's year and the spiritual renaissance been here

(39:09):
for a while. There are somefucking things that could be accomplished, and
then there's some things that just can'tbe accomplished. Because after four point sixty
four billion years, if there's stilla minute problem, then you got to
address it as such, Why thefuck is this small issue a goddamn problem?

(39:30):
Maybe you start going off into itand going off into that and trying
to figure things out, and that'swhen you become a beautiful person to them,
you know. I mean, it'sjust when you become a beautiful person.
It's like, damn, you know, this guy understands things and he's
actually fucking trying to help. Forone, it's been a while, you

(39:50):
know, since somebody wanted to helpall of that, you know. So
for those that are on a spiritualquest, they've got to understand the room.
First of all, turf, that'sturf Earth four point fifty four billion
this year. Turf. That's thefirst room. Next galaxy boment, regeneration

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of the Earth. Any spiritual beingknow what it was like to go flew
back, and from that point on, from the highest to the lowest,
you might hear silence, you mighthear and so on, you might hear

(40:37):
damn And then all of those thingsyou round up in a circle as emotions
as we been ranting a lot,like you know, and so on,
And that's when all the beauty andthe adorable shit of spirituality starts to manifest
within you if you can save themthat. But sometimes you don't want to

(41:00):
wake up a sleeping giants, likeyou said, sometimes you might contact the
wrong thing. It's like, whoa, I know this shit. Yeah,
wait a minute, don't tell mesome shit that I ain't know that I
can't fucking fix. And I holdthe fuck up, yeah, and so
on and so forth. So whenyour mind goes that deep, man,
daring yourself to take it a loopfront and not just for yourself, because

(41:24):
it always goes a little bit further. Man. I think a lot of
people think they haven't figured out.And it's like, you know what I
don't even grasp but a glimpse ofwhat's going on, of what's really happening
with all this stuff, you know, I mean, yeah, man,
but to try, yeah, meansa whole hell of a lot more than

(41:44):
the stay ah ha ha. Wegot han ah high, we built our
heaven get got stuck here a haha. When the Earth region all that
shit, that shit is you know, not cool. It's just not cool.
Yeah, you know, it's justnot cool because you're dealing with the
fear or something that's never been aplayed before. So when you know things

(42:07):
of that nature, then you're supposedto take it and go further, you
know, take it and go alittle further. Hey, I'd take it
to heaven if I could. Ifyou'd be my personal angel forever, and
so on and south, I've gotplenty of rooms. I know you've been
learning how to do things without thebrain, and I know you've been existing,

(42:29):
you know, without that and withstreams. Maybe we can help each
other so I can go find mymom, because maybe my whole intellectual outlook
will be wiped out. And youknow, when you become sinless and you
don't remember the good or other badyou might, you know, so you
are ways to just take it alittle further if you can't. Yeah,

(42:54):
it seems like, man, allthe interesting people, everyone who is like
have a calling on their life,right, it seems like they've all been
through a lot of crazy stuff,right, And I know that I'm familiar
with your story, and just forthose who aren't, man, I mean
there's a lot of people who don'tknow that you were a product of child

(43:16):
abuse and that you were actually onAmerica's Most Wanted Man, can you touch
on that a little bit? Oh? Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely.
Well, I mean, everybody gota cool last story, you know
it just talk to anybody in thisworld. Everybody been through a little something.
My little sucking something was what mymom went through. It's happened to

(43:38):
be found by John Walsh and youknow, eventually being brought home and you
know, foster homes after that.So you were kidnapped, correct motherfuckers and
abusive motherfuckers. After that, itwas more of hey, I'm not going
to understand your trials. So it'slike even after that, you know,

(44:00):
no understanding of Hey, this guy'sbeen through some tragic stuff. Maybe I
need to get this kid a hug. Maybe I need to show him,
you know what a man. Youknow, how a man would raise his
son. You know, these arethe kind of different things that I wasn't
able to learn. So I hadto learn to be my own father.

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And then when I met my homeboys, everybody played batty at certain times.
I was Dad. When the heatcame on, we're about to get killed
and we're in a situation on thestreets, I was Dad. I'm a
guy who give the gun to I'mgonna go crazy over my niggas. When
it was when it comes to makingit, Leila was dad. When it

(44:45):
was you know, or when itcomes to feed nrs frush and Bone was
pa. Or when it comes tocoming up with a new style for music,
crazy Bone was pap. Or whenit comes to giving us a home
and giving us somewhere to sleep excuseme, stuff or giving us somewhere to
sleep, then that was big cecyDay. That was Wishbone right there,

(45:07):
That was pop it in. Sowe all played that, and that was
kind of like how my life waspatterned after that. But yeah, man,
that's the tragic story. Man.I was kidnapped, him was found
by John Walsh, and I'm herenow, man, and I met my
buds and man, and everything's beengoing good from there. They're ups and

(45:27):
downs, but the ups is whatI want people in the world to know,
so they don't focus on anything otherthan this good stuff you and me
are trying to put out there tosociety. Man. Yeah, well,
that's the thing with people who gothrough a lot of negativity, Like you
can't be You can't appreciate the sunlightwithout being in the midst of darkness.

(45:52):
You can't appreciate the good times withoutgoing through the bad times, you know.
And I think I had somebody justsay that you are super correct.
Didn't mean to cut you off,going Yeah, no, I'm just gonna
say. That's why the scriptures saythat he who is forgiven of much loves
much. Their level of devotion isjust out of this world. How thankful

(46:13):
they are to see another day,to take another breath when they know that.
Man, I should be dead right, I shouldn't even be here right
now, but I made it.I get to live another day. I
get to tell my story. Iget to be a light to someone else
who's going through that same darkness thatI went through. That's why it's so
important to tell your story, man, to put those truths out here on

(46:34):
the internet to people face to facewherever. Man. Just to encourage people
who are going through some dark times, man, because everybody's out there who
has questions and stuff. So yeah, man, I appreciate what you're doing.
I mean, look, man,it's a mentality, it's a way
of life. So I'm always thereto be free to conversations and to open

(46:55):
up about myself, to speak onmyself. I'm always open for that.
I don't pull punch you because Iwalked this earth and I need and other
people have blessed me. Man.Someone just wrote to me on Instagram and
said be and it was a youngit was actually it was a young lady

(47:17):
and she had to be quoting thesame scripture because she was saying to me.
She said, I'm doing well inmy life now, but I miss
the ramen noodles. I missed thetough times because I didn't have as many
responsibilities as I have now and it'sjust less stressful than what it is.

(47:38):
And that goes offensive why people arein the streets and not working and so
on and so forth as wealth.So there's a way, you know,
to take those blessings, to putit over to their squash all of the
mess, keep it right here withhuman intellect and earn that human heaven that

(47:58):
we already built. We built itourselves. We really did. We really
really really really did go to humanheaven. And we understand it because we
get hints. I was there fora minute. I just got back shit.
My heart stopped, my brain stopped. I was very broph It looked
nice, man, I say mymom, I said, that's one I
say I want. It was beautyeah, and so on and so forth.

(48:22):
So that's our proof that we builtthat. We built that stuff like
that, baby, And you know, from that point on, it's just
all about helping those that are caughtin the galaxy bud to where it is
heaven on Earth. For angels,Earth is heaven, yeah, period.

(48:50):
So coo a, y'all want totalk about the angelic communication a little bit
more with just some stuff I've heardyou say in several interviews, and then
having this type phenomenon happened myself.I know, God speaks through everything,
He speaks through creation, he speaksthrough people, right, He speaks through
everything in our lives, our situations, circumstances, synchronicities, things that line

(49:12):
up. You mentioned God speaking throughthe television man and just using everything around
you. So I mean, what'sthe deal with that? Have you just
been had the TV on and justwhat is being said on the television just
before you for that moment if youhad any of those those days. My
entire search had everything to do withthose that had come to America and before

(49:40):
they went and did some suck upshit, watching and hearing about everything that
they watched before they went out anddid some sucked up shit. Yeah,
So I was thinking, how aboutI search out the TV? She what
talk? And from that point onyou start to realize the powerful things that

(50:04):
be. Just like you said theseven at seven times and so on and
so forth. You know, youreally can't calculate it, but it's very
simple. What makes you feel goodand what makes you want to get your
ass up and go love somebody andgo take care of somebody, that's the
good part. What frustrates you,what judges you as if you're sitting in

(50:28):
church and the pastors talking directly aboutyou, that's the stuff that hurts you
inside. That's the opposite reason toeven have the television. It's supposed to
be for comfort, it's supposed tobe to be a part of society.
Hey, what's going on today inthe world. Hey, what's the new

(50:51):
products going on with these guys pushingover there? Hey it's fulling on reality
television. Hey look at that familyright there. That's nice. These though
they're acting, still pretty freaking cool. Fo's what it's for to feel good,
you know, And that's what Ifound out at this point in two
thousand and sixteen. You know,because sometimes if you find something through television,

(51:20):
then it might step its game upbecause it's kind of done with it.
You know, after a moment.There's only so many times that you
can betray or negative a blessing duringthe flight pattern, when it starts to
get flipped the negative, you knowwhat, keep it, you tell me,

(51:42):
like you just want to. Youknow, I was having a ball,
we were talking, we were havinga great fucking time, and all
of the fucking sudden, here comesfrom bullshit. You know what, I
don't need this shit. I'd rathertalk to a fucking bird flat out.
And you know, it's all aboutout template it's all about tolerated and agitation.

(52:06):
I when you're dealing with something thatcan talk to a mosquito to about
as irritating as you can fucking get. So the study isn't shallow. It's
just more of you know what,I'm good take television if you want,
because I'm not going to sit backand be negative with somebody that I have
built a great relationship with. Keepit. And then it starts to go

(52:30):
haywire because the control is gone,and then it's you know, and so
on it and then the rest ofthe variables are always you know, they're
just hey, it could be this, could be that could be this could
be that could be this. That'sbecause it's gone. When you said that,
I was able to speak to theLord or what I call the Lord
or the highest of the Highest ordimension through the television. The reason why

(52:54):
I can't elaborate on it anymore isbecause of that. You know, we
had a great thing going, man, Like we really really did. Man.
We were accomplishing a lot of stuff, you know, just making leeway
and just knowledge and peace and fixingthings and so on and so forth,

(53:17):
and then all of the freaking sudden, an abundant amount of negativity comes in
and after one, two, three, four, maybe five times, it
was more or less. I knewit was gone from that way of speaking.
Yeah, I knew from that pointon. It's just obvious. Okay,

(53:40):
So that's what the television. Letme ask you this, though,
there's still a lot of spirituality,a lot of hidden truths and things like
that within the movies. Have youhad any of the encounters by watching some
of these movies that are out therewith this ancient knowledge embedded within them,
that are like waking up stuff thanyou our brother, so much stuff out

(54:02):
there did. It's one thing aboutEarth now we're nine trillion deep and that's
just documented. And within that wehave the Internet, so there is no
end to the knowledge all the wayup and to the galaxy bump and the

(54:25):
regeneration of Earth. We already havehuman heaven build so we're good after that.
So it's more of thirtieth to thefifth Light, rent, gas proof,
love, care, hugs, kids, progress of life, and making

(54:46):
things a lot simpler for things thatare just here with movies. I mean,
so with movies, abundant, dude, it's just endless. Jimmy and
it's beautiful, dude, it's beautiful. I can't go I can't go far

(55:06):
enough to tell you how much goodstuff is within that, man, how
much good stuff. I mean,I could name you a few artists that
live the whole TV life, thatdeity out the TV, all their options,
all of their movements, all abouttelevision, the things that they see

(55:30):
on television, the metaphors of ofthe fresh print and different things of that
nature. I mean, it's awhole literature like that. And when I
sat back and I looked at it, and I was like, Wow,
this is freaking cool, Like thisis freaking cool. And some people are

(55:50):
just cool with that. They're justcool with it. Yeah, you know
what I mean, They're just coolwith it. You know what. Okay,
you you said, and I'm justquoting from an interview. You talked
about your purple homie who keeps aturbine on What was you referring to?

(56:13):
Uh? I believe it could havebeen something in passing, could have been
an outfit, It could have beena statement. You know, It's like,
do you remember how angels had inspecific titles. Yeah, this is
the and this is his function,and that could just be the opening of
a conversation in order to open upsome sort of a a stream of Hey,

(56:42):
how you doing. Man, Youcan relate to me right here.
Man, you can build somewhere.Fuck it, this is me, you
know, and so on and soforth. So whether you have a purple
turbine or whether you have Angel ofLove or any of those different things,
I think that that was where thatwas, and so on and so forth.
So that's just kind of how itworks, man. You know,

(57:07):
Okay, let me ask you thistoo. Within that same interview, I
noticed you kind of apologized. Youbasically said my bad after you were dropping
knowledge. It's just something that you'retry not to put out there just for
the lay people. It's just somethingof your own experience that you'd like to
keep for yourself, and you don'tgo around flaunting it like we were talking

(57:27):
about. You just try to makeit where people can understand. Constantly,
it just constantly grows. Man.It's like when you see things appear and
when you see problems arise, youknow, you want to be the kind
of person that figures things out upuntil it's like, you know, we're
fucking tired of you, you know, trying to be mister know it all

(57:50):
and trying to act like you knoweverything, and then when the most major
problem pops up, it's like,well, you guys have said that to
me enough and you got are likehating me for trying to help by dealing
with the most major issues that hasto be dealt with before I get out
of here, you know, andI pass it on to anybody that that

(58:15):
can, you know, and blessthem, you know, for trying.
Yeah. So, and that's whereI'm at now. This is what I
used to do. This is howI used to feel, you know,
and to say, man, damn, sorry, I didn't mean to drop
everything on you, you know,all at once. It's kind of like
where that may have been. Like, you know, I don't want to

(58:37):
drop so much on someone and givethem something that they can't solve, you
know, and leave them with thispain in their gut that they can't fucking
dissolve. So that's why I alwayswant to make sure that every human being
that I talk to, don't forgetMom, don't forget that, don't forget

(58:57):
the billions of life one that yougot passed and Mom's woman alone. That's
every single human on earth. Nobodycan say what I need know you did,
you too, and you and youand you. So those are the
kind of things that I like toleave with after I say, hey,

(59:19):
so I'm dropping so much stuff onthe kiddo. This is how you get
out of it, you know,as a human being. Yeah, you
know, yeah, just try togive yourself to the experience. Man,
without you know, a lot ofus try to, you know, find
ways to pull ourselves out of thisexperience. And that's why, you know,
we have drugs and alcohol things likethat. Man, We're like,

(59:39):
people are like, look, I'mdone with this experience. I can't handle
it. I'm not I'm not builtfor this, you know what I'm saying.
With all these pressures and things thatare going on, people are trying
to separate themselves from themselves, andso it's just hard enough. Yeah,
I know exactly what you meaning isthis is the same. This is the

(01:00:00):
thing you're trying, dude. You'refucking trying. Man. Not everybody's doing
that, man, nobody's focused onthat. Nobody's trying anymore. Once they
find out that they're gonna be okay, the first time they get you know,
hurt, the first time they don'thit the lottery. The first time
that they get punched in the faceand they're not helped, and different things

(01:00:24):
of that nature by who they're tryingto help. On a massive level,
they're gonna give up. They're gonnabe like, you're you're not loyal in
me, you know, you're notyou're not taking care of me, and
and and people getting misguided and misdirectedlike that split fucking wise. That's not
even us thinking deep as hell,you know, that's just you know,

(01:00:45):
uh, hey, there was thisguy and I think his name was Dave
Anthony Brown, I think, andhe was working on the he's working on
the morning radio show. Think itwas Richard Smiley's radio show. And he
didn't get the power ball right.She was so upset he quit his job

(01:01:07):
and it was but I know itwas like it was more of a hoax.
And but he was really really pissedoff. And even though that isn't
in the context of spirituality, that'show the human race is. Man,
they're not taking those ship man like, you know, I can't believe I

(01:01:28):
didn't hit the power balls much playingas I undone, as as much charity
as I undid, I'd have madeup with my baby mama. You know
it's so on and soul for butthat's the template, and that's what that's
what we are man as human beings. Man, just not taking those ship.
So for you or anybody listening totry and to continue to try and

(01:01:53):
not blame and still be focused andnot look for a reward. Are you
all right? You are inside you, there's something inside you that's just you
are hYP for real because at thetables turned you all right, at the
tables, don't turn you all right? Just an all right, you know

(01:02:19):
person for crying. You know whena lot of people will say, don't
have to a lot of people wouldsay, won't succeed, but you're trying.
I don't give the fuck if youcome in last place. Dude,
Yeah he ran the race, baby, you ran the goddamn race. I'll
tell you that. I'm I'm atthe finish line like you ran the race.
Baby. Hey, I know welaughed. Baby, I was last

(01:02:42):
last week. Can't come on,baby, you know until you know what
I mean, built the run ofsixteen hundred. Shit, I'm gonna come
in last. When I first startedrunning, that's awesome, man. So
what I'm gonna ask you this,What does the tree of the Sufferer mean
to you? What's that last wordthe tree? Well, no, I

(01:03:07):
don't know. Tell me the storyout of the tree the so har have
you? Are you familiar with it? Not familiar? To tell me?
Cool? Cool? No, Ijust thought I heard you mentioned it one
time. It's all I mean,I've passed so many I've passed so much
literature and so many different things thatyou know. It goes to streams,

(01:03:29):
it goes to fire and things ofthat nature in vain and things of that
nature. And to see things withouta scientific vision, to see things outside
before science took over and was ableto look inside the body and find out
I ain't living in there. Yes, first of myself, I took an

(01:03:50):
X ray and nothing in there.And then that's when you know, we
start getting real and that's when thingsstart getting truth. What are some of
the books that you've read, manthat have inspired you? Yeah? I
like uh, I like fiction.I like a Sister Soldier, She's one

(01:04:15):
great author. I was really ona book reading kick, like uh,
I say, about three and ahalf four years ago. I was like,
really on a book reading kick.Every flight, I have a book
and so on and so forth.But I say my most favor author is
Sister Soldier, Okay, because shekeeps it real. Have you read the

(01:04:38):
book The Alchemist? Are you familiarwith the book The Alchemist? You know
from a movie? Though I'm prettysure there's something similar by that name.
I'm not sure if it's based offthe book about it. Yeah, you
definitely got to read it. Everybodyhas to read that book. I think
that's one that really piqued my interestbecause a lot of successful people were asked

(01:05:01):
questions like, if you were ona deserted island and you only had one
book, what book would it be? And I know Will Smith said it
would have to be The Alchemist byPauliocuelo. And it's basically a book about
a young man's journey to find ahidden treasure. And the book is basically

(01:05:23):
about you and your journey and chasingyour dream and following your dream. And
once you agree to capture that dream, and once you agree to go on
that journey, that the universe andthat God shifts and lines up and will
help you capture that dream. Andyou seeking the dream and you following that

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path. It is part of yourjourney and part of your story. And
it's a it's an amazing book.Man. When you read it, it's
just like revelation about your life,where you are, what you're going through,
and so so basically every like basicallyeverything in the book is as a
metaphor for somebody and something in yourlife. It's really deep. The Alchemist

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I sound good, man, I'mgonna check it on out. I'm currently
reading the currently what I'm reading isthe the trilogy to a book that Sister
Soldier wrote from currently in into thatone. What's I finished with that one?
Totally don't check out The Alchemist.Well, yeah, totally check it
out. It's not even a longread, man, you could read it

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pretty fast. Yeah. Cool.Talking about a lot of your music,
man, back in the day,there was a lot of mention a lot
of songs about the Ouiji board.What's your experience with that? There's one,
There's just one. I mean Ithink it was something that easy,
you know, really wanted to putout there, you know, as something

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cool and miss deified about us andso on and so forth. Man,
it's the Park of the Brothers game. Dude. You picked it up from
toys Dollar. We bought it fromToys r r US Dude, So that
kind of lets you know that theseriousness behind some ship like that, Like,
dude, we picked it up thetoys r US sky Damn. Yeah,

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seriously, are we seriously in trouble? I'm calling toys r ruck of
this ship. Yeah, there wasa lot of stuff, man, there's
a lot of talking. People usedto say, I know you read the
forms and everything. They say,Well, you know, bone dugs.
The harmony got their abilities to raplike that through the through getting their lyrics
from the Ouiji board and contacting spirits. So there was never really nothing like

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that going on. Huh uh,nothing like that going on, man,
Just hard, hard work and dedication. Huh. That's what hard work and
dedication man. Like, seriously,we had such a blessed event. God
damn I got locked in here.We had such a blessed event. Yeah.

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It was just to the point whereit was like, you know,
when it's about making it, whenit's about dealing with people that were raised
by their grandmothers or were raised thosegrandmothers raised the guys in church, and
it's about that, it's a wholeother situation from there, you know,

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mh have you heard any stories aboutthat though. Have you heard of anybody
getting involved with it and opening upsome portals to it? You know,
yeah, Like I know people havesaid they've messed with different things like the
Wuigi board and open up doors too, because you have a lot of people
who are really deep into the occultand they'll tell you to stay away from

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that because you're dealing with anything thatwants to come through. You're not just
saying, hey, I'm going tocontact the spirit of so and so or
whatever. But it's like, hey, is there a spirit in this house?
Will you come through? And thenthere's the you know what I'm saying,
they're opening up these doorways and evenif it's in their mind, you

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know what I'm saying, with thesedark parts of their psyche, whatever's going
on, man, that it opensup these doorways to some entities. That
people will open up doors that theydon't know how to close. You know,
I totally totally agree with that.You know, I think that you
know, sometimes people when they doopen up those doors, that it could
just be like you said, itcould be in their mom it could be

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it could be anything. You know. The imagination is that that's how we
found God looking for something other thanwhat's here to imagination, you know,
at a real basis, I guesswith that being said as well though,
as far as like opening up doors, what I found in my own personal
experience is that I found solace inthis man because I was one who opened

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up those doors years ago, right, And the scriptures say Jesus said that,
he said, behold, I openup doors, and I closed doors
that no man can close. Hesays, I open up doors that no
man can open. So that's onething about it. So anybody listening who
have dealt with anything dark, whohas anything lingering around them, just know

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that you can call on Christ.You can call on Jesus and every other
spirit under that, every other entity, all these angels that we're talking about,
they all have to bow to thefeet of Christ. So take solace
in that call out to Christ forhelp. Put it into any of this
negative stuff that's going on in yourlife. And you know what I'm saying.
That really leads me to your song, Man, which is still a

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beautiful song about Jesus. Don't Jesusmake you feel good? Your song Jesus,
Dude, that's an amazing song thatwe sang all the time to this
day. It's a beautiful song.Man. I mean, well, I
look at it like this when you'rejust God dude, and when you take
it a step further and you startfocusing, and that then do its life.

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Yes, sat in a way thatothers wouldn't understand. And you know,
when you start dealing with all ofthe people that were set forth on
the path of religions and real religionsget started, you have some that need
a nation of hunions, and youhave some that lead a nation of angels,

(01:11:24):
and then you have some that readthe nation of God, and you
have some that lead a nation ofaliens. All the way up until everything
has been covered, and then youcould sit back and shield. Hey can
we cover everything? But there arewe doing? You know? So I
look at it like that, andyou know, I think that we all

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know that Jesus loved and reebody,anybody that wanted to take the time to
just be around just pay attention andpool stuff like that, you know,
help the seller and hey, let'syou know, let's look out for the
spell over here, whenever it mayhave been. I think that that doesn't

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go uns It just doesn't it's somethingthat resonates and it continues to resonate,
you know, and it's a goodthings. You know. You cannot deny
what makes you feel good. Youjust can't make you feel good just to
say it, man, Jesus,you know, it just makes you feel
good to be able to say it. I had. That was my first

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pack too. Yeah, you know, it was something I wanted to do
for you know, just for me, you know, somebody that was there
for everybody, you know what Imean. So it meant a lot to
me because it was like I canextend my heart out to whoever that I
want to, and I can carefor whoever I want, and even if

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it's a mission or a duty orwork, I can do that under the
banner of His love and affection foreverything. You know, there's there's nothing
that Jesus does not cover, whetherit's making you do something, or you
wanting to do something and being stupidfor wanting to do something, yeah,

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or being smart or whatever. Jesuscovers it. Hey man, you go
be a food for spirituality if youhave to, you know, and so
on and so forth. So Ithink that that's, you know, something
that's so important to the human racetill this day? What do you what

(01:13:41):
do you? What do you seeright now? As far as the animosity
towards Jesus and towards people who tryto uphold his teachings and commandments, So
like right now, socially there's there'slike animosity for you to say you believe
in Jesus or you follow the teachers. Hey, bro, you know,

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to each are their own. There'sa lot of shock value, my love
in things. Sometimes people say thingsto shock you to get you interested in
them. Sometimes somebody will say somethingso you can go after them so you

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can pay attention to this. Andthat's just humans. That's just humans do
that. You know, you evergotten into an argument with your buffing and
she says and shit that she knowsit's going to hurt you that you told
her in safety and security and shebreaks it out on you. You know,

(01:14:45):
she doesn't mean it, but shesaid it to get your attention.
It's the same difference man all overthe world. Man, the same freaking
difference. One brother tell another brotheryou know that's why I have a job,
and you don't. You know,small things that help you understand what's
going on and what's not going on, you know what I mean? And

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it's not ever ever personal. It'salways to get attention to me, now
the invested, well thought out,you know. This is why I say
that. It's like, okay,I don't think like you, Peppin,
but you can go all over therethat I got the tattoo on my arm

(01:15:30):
and I like who I like.You know, yeah, I love who
I love. I'm sorry, dude, And if me loving someone makes you
not want to be near me,then maybe it was for a reason.
You know. Maybe that is fora reason, you know, And that's

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just how I look at it.You know, sometimes people are out of
your life and took it away fromyour life because they're not good for you.
They're not meant for you. Andit doesn't take love in Jesus or
or loving Moses or whoever to exposeit, it really does it. It's

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just common sense, you know,in situations. So you know, at
times it's like, well that's thereason, and so on and so for
if it's like in a endless amountof variables and calculations towards it, you
know, of why my main thingis, it's normally to get someone's attention

(01:16:35):
and say, hey, I can'tgo no further. That's what you believe
in. I know, you're willingto go through whatever to get to you
know somebody like me. Yeah,you know, yeah, yeah, I
kind of see it like that too. That a lot of people, you
know, believe what they believe fora reason. Somebody taught them something or

(01:16:55):
showed them something, or maybe somebodyin the Nation of Islam spent time I'm
with them when no one else did, so they kind of had an open
ear for their doctrine and their teaching, or a Christian you know, might
have did the same thing, soit kind of opens them up. So,
you know, you just definitely seewhy people believe what they believe,
and you don't judge anybody even ifit's wrong, you know what I'm saying.

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If they believe, you know,something opposite of what you believe or
whatever, and then you have tolook at that for your own self too.
Well. I believe in Jesus becauseof this, and I prayed and
got this result, and at mylowest point, Jesus stepped in and helped
me. And Muhammad didn't help me, or Christian didn't help me, or
whatever the case is, right,that's my story. So I mean,

(01:17:38):
what's your story? Man? Wherewas that defining moment to like, look,
man, Jesus is the way,this is who I need to help
me on this walk. You know, I think my most defining moment would
be watching and seeing the reaction ofpeople when I actually sung a song yeah

(01:17:58):
oh yeah, and when I didthat and it helped somebody, when I
actually did that and it helped him, and you know baby girl with you
know, in a wheelshare and soon and so forth, and you know,
be dedicated that moment in that timehim. You know, baby girl

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wanted to see me and said beforeshe and anything happened to her, she
wanted to make sure she said hello to and save his apple. And
she shared a moment with Jesus involved. And that let me know, you
know, to a certain extent,the beauty, the love and what I

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really really felt inside my heart.But it's your time to shine and that's
who you want to shine with you. That let me know, deep down
inside, there's something about that God. Yeah, that just makes you happy
and it just it just does somethingto you. You're just you know,

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grateful for his existence. You know, you're just grateful that you know,
he was there, you know,even if he didn't do anything. Yeah,
you're just grateful that he was thereand he did a whole lot of
stuff for a whole lot of people. Oh my goodness, I just took
a snuggle. So I'm looking formy pillow with my blanky right now,

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Yes, sir Man. Well,look, man, this has been a
beautiful interview. I think we endedit on a good note. Man,
it was a blessing to talk toyou. You're one of, if not
the greatest rapper. Hats off toyou. Man. You've been an influence
on my life, on my work, and it's just been a blessing to
be able to talk to you.Man, I'm super excited to speak with

(01:19:54):
you. Hey. Let me tellyou man, I appreciate the avenue.
I appreciate the platform because a lotof things that we spoke about a lot
of people. Man, it's gonnabe one or two people out there,
But I say, you know what, I'm gonna try this ship. I'm
gonna try this ship. The shipcrounds good, I'm gonna try it.

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Yeah. So I think they werehelping, and I think they were not
just helping our own race. Ithink that the journey and the and and
and and what we were we originallywere feeling about, you know, spirituality
and searching the evangelical code and differentthings in that nature we were able to
address. And hey, man,I appreciate it, man, and I

(01:20:38):
want you to stay blessed and likeman, just man, human race.
Man. You know, let's keepkeep doing what we do. Man,
you know doubt man, Thanks forcoming on, brother, I love it.
It's that And so there you haveit, ladies and gentlemen. The
one and only Busy Bones. Ican't say it enough. One of the
greatest rappers that ever lived. Amazingman. If you want to hear more

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