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host, Truth Seeker, excited tobe with you today. My guest is
Joni Patri. Jony, Welcome tothe show, my friend, how are
you? Thank you glad to behere. We're going to be talking all
about astrology today. Ready to divein with you? Good. So I
am a Veda astrologer. What Ido is this sidereal system of astrology which
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is different than the tropical Western whichmost people are more familiar in the West
with tropical Western astrology. But Idid tropical Western for twenty years and I
found Veda astrology which is actually thisastrology from India, and I really found
that this is more accurate and inreality, this is the true placements of
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where the planets are astronomically according toastronomy. So when I found that out,
I thought, you know what,I have to learn this astrology.
This was back in the early ninetieswhen I first started studying, and I
found that my predictions became more accurateand it was a bit more spiritual.
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And that's what I was really searchingfor, was something that really connected us
to our soul levels. So whenpeople get a reading from a Vedic astrologer.
It's going to be talking more tothe soul level, and that's where
I really wanted to go with this. That's good because when I found out
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about Sadeiro astrology, it made sense. And you know, wondering why it
changed, if you will, andpeople know different things. I've heard so
many different there is and reasons andpeople saying, you know, it's four
months behind and different stuff like that. But when you look at it and
you understand astrology, you would wantto go to sidereal, right, Like
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if understanding why you know our astrologicalscience, like how we got them in
the first place, right, howyou would get them today in modern day
we would stick to the same system, which would be Vedic or sideria.
Right. Do you want to explainwhat the difference is there? Yes,
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so it's sidereal. It takes intoaccount procession of the equinoxes, which are
that everything's constantly moving very slowly thoughso it's not even detectable in a lifetime.
So procession of the equinoxes is simplythat the stars are moving backwards,
and from our vantage point on Earth, it's because of the wabble of the
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Earth. But the stars are actuallymoving backwards, and they moved back one
degree every seventy two years. Iknow this is getting a little technical,
but over a two thousand period time, reference the zodiac from what most people
know the Western Tropical. The siderealideal, by the way, means star.
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So the stars are moving and theyhave this processional cycle of twenty four
to twenty six thousand years. Andwhat I mean by that is that the
stars will change through all twelve signsof the zodiac in that amount of time.
But if we go back two thousandyears ago, the zodiacs actually lined
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up. In other words, theWestern Tropical lined up with the sidereal,
but over a portion of two thousandyears it's separated. And in sidereal astrology,
your sign would go backwards almost afull sign, not quite, but
almost a full sign. So thewhole zodiac has reverted backwards. So so
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many people that are into Western astrologyreally can't accept that their sun sign has
changed. But astrology is a science. It's not about this sun sin astrology
that has been popularized by all themagazines and newspapers. You got to know
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that not everybody born in the samemonth has the same destiny. So I
take this into the true science thatastrology is. By the way, it
is the oldest science in the world. It really has every science composed in
it, and what I mean bythat is geometry, physics, and astronomy.
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It also takes into account spirituality,mythology. All of these things are
really part of astrology, and thetrue placements have shifted. And once you
really look at your true map,which is a horoscope where all of your
planets are relative to the signs,relative to where you were born, you
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have a map, and this mapreally does follow through for your destiny.
And it's like, you know,wouldn't you love to have a map for
your life to see when things getbetter or when things you need to avoid
things? And then this takes medown another whole road of people always asking
me, well, do we havedestiny? Is everything faded? Do we
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have free will? And to saythat we don't have free will would be
ridiculous because why would we be puppetsplaying out a script. So astrology gives
you these well, and here's anotherthing, because vading astrology goes back to
India. There is a belief inreincarnation and therefore what your chart is is
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everything that you've been in all ofyour previous lifetimes. So when you see
this chart, you can see whereyour weakness is are, where your strengths
are, where your gifts are,what you actually acquired in past lifetimes.
And this is what we can seeand it gives you what I call divine
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guidance. Don't don't we all wantdivine guidance. And I believe in the
spirituality of everything, that everything isspirit everything is divine, the universe is
divine, and we can have thisguidance through looking at our charts. This.
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Yeah, I found that when youintroduce siderial astrology to people and they
find that there there their sign isdifferent, it's weird obviously shock value for
one, but then you kind offind I guess pun intended your identity in
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the sign that you thought you were, and so there's a connection to it,
like, oh, I want itto be this even if they don't
follow it, just as I knowmy sign kind of thing right. But
if we're looking at the science andwe want it to be right, you
would be open to changing it tofind which science works. And it seems
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to be like you said that thesidereal is the one that seems to be
more accurate and works right. Yes, we i't want to let it go
because they have a connection with somethingthey've been told, especially when it's different.
Well, there's this attachment too,And I say Western astrology is very
much about your personality, but Vetacastrology is about your soul essence. So
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people are very attached to the descriptionof their personality. But when you really
look at this map and you understandwhat your sole purpose is, then that
is so much more important than understandinga personality trait because I believe we all
change, and this is the opportunitywhere you can see where your true talents
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are. So many people call mefor readings and they want to know what
their purpose is, what is theirtalents, what are their gifts? What
are they here to do? That'swhat I can see through looking at the
horoscope, through the sidereal system,and it has these cycles of development when
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things will ultimately change in a bigway. There's these long cycles that some
of them are twenty years, someof them are six years, and when
you change from one grand cycle tothe next, your whole life will change,
not a little bit but dramatically.We all know we have these times
in our life. When we havea big move and we have new people
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come into our life, everything changes, new job, new career. This
is all depicted and can be seenthrough the cycles in the WEDA. Really
it blows your mind when you seethat this is a system that can tell
you about when and where your lifeis truly going to change. And we
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also use astrology for countries, forleaders. We can see the future for
different countries and I give predictions everyyear for the year looking at you know,
where are we headed? Where arewe headed as a mass consciousness,
not just as an individual soul,but together we can see the trends in
humanity and that is what mundane astrologyis the astrology of the world. And
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you have to know that these cyclesare real. Really, if I could
put it into a layman's terms,astrology is just a study of cycles.
And when you go back and yousee certain placements before, like two thousand
years ago, you can better understandwhat's going to be happening at any phase
in society in the world. Letme go back to two thousand years ago,
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because I know you're going to findthis really interesting. So two thousand
years ago, according to the processionalcycle was the darkest time for humanity.
And in this twenty six thousand,twenty four to twenty six thousand year cycle,
two thousand years ago was the darkestand we're coming upon the circular cycle
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that has a high point, ahalfway point where people are more aware and
more conscious on planet Earth. Andthen we received back down to the darker
phase again. But this whole cycle, if it's if it was the darkest
phase. Two thousand years ago,the zodiacs lined up, and two thousand
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years ago we started the Age ofPisces, which we are currently in these
processional cycles. Each sign is abouttwo thousand, four hundred years, give
or take, of course, someleeway there. But what's so interesting to
me is two thousand years ago,guess what happened. That was when Jesus
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came to the Earth. This iswhere the whole Piscean era began. And
if you'll look at the symbol forPisces, guess what you have the fish?
What is the symbol for Christianity?The fish? This all lines up.
All the churches were built, allof the temples, the places of
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worship were built from that point on. Now what's interesting is we're on the
cusp of getting ready to go intothe Age of Aquarius. Remember you've heard
these ages. We're dotting on theage of Aquarius. What does all that
mean? Well, this is allpart of the processional cycle that I'm talking
about. And when we go intothe age of Aquarius, the saying for
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Aquarius is I know, whereas thissaying for the Age of Pisces is I
believe going into a more technologically advancedera in humanity. In each of these
cycles have different descriptions of the developmentand where humanity is during these phases.
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So going back to my whole point, these are all studies of cycles,
and there's nothing more specific than thesestudies with Veta astrology. And you know
what's interesting is Western astrology recognizes theseages of mankind, but the Vedic astrologers
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actually put it into perspective that thisis where we are in the perceptional cycle.
Does that make sense? Yeah?Would they call that the yugas?
The yugas are actually something different,And you're right on with that. I'm
talking about the signs the yugas are. We've just we've just left the caliyuga
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and the Caliyuga is the arkis phaseof humanity and now we're going into a
much more developmental, technological, moreadvanced intellectually cycle. But it's going to
be like ten thousand years till weget to the highest level of awareness on
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planet Earth. Just to give youan idea of our development. We're not
that evolved. People are still intogreed, They're still into being better than
one another. They don't come togetherlike the Age of Aquarius will make people
come more together. Humanity will besought peace and happiness, love. But
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the age that we're coming out of, the Coliyuga, is the darkest age
of all and people are into greed, you know, fear, all of
those things. So I believe themore evolved we come, the more aware
we become of consciousness connected to God, consciousness the divine that helps guide us,
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and of course eliminates fear in oursociety, in our world. So
there's a lot to go. Butlet me tell you a couple of reasons
why I got into Vedic astrology.You might find this interesting. I love
the study and the work of EdgarCasey. Have you heard of Edgar Casey?
Oh yeah, the Sleeping Profit,You got it. He would go
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into these trance mediums. He wouldgo into these medium sessions where he was
a sleep sleeping prophet and started speakingin a different voice, and for the
most part, he diagnosed so manyillnesses in this trance medium session. He
started talking in terms of doctors,and he was a farm boy, so
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he was channeling this information. Andone thing he said in one of his
sessions was that Western astrology was offby almost a full sign. That got
my attention. Now, another thingis is that I love Eastern philosophy.
I love spirituality. I want togrow as a spiritual being. That's the
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most important thing for all of usto know on planet Earth. That's why
we're here for our spiritual growth.Correct. So I was studying a lot
of Eastern philosophy and I read theAutobiography of a Yogi. Have you ever
read that book by Para Mahansa Yogananda. I have not, but I have
it, so I haven't read itthough it's miraculous. So anyway, he
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dedicated himself to finding God and that'swhat his teachings are all about. What's
wonderful about Yogananda is he blended theWestern Christian beliefs with the Eastern beliefs.
And I thought that was a beautiful, beautiful way to connect our world.
But his teacher, his Guru Swamise Ute Sir, was a Vedic astrologer.
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Now I read that book in highschool many many years ago, and
I thought, what is a Vedicastrologer? And so I did my homework
discovered that Veda astrology was the siderialsystem. And then when I found out
that the teachings were passed down mainlyby mouth oral tradition. So these teachings
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were passed down by these great seerswho were saints, and I thought,
okay, I've got to learn theastrology of the seers and the saints,
and that's what Veda astrology is allabout. To me, that's awesome.
Can you explain the difference between siderealand a sun shine and how you your
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sign with sidereal versus just the sunsign? Okay, so when you're talking
about the sun sign, that's justone portion of your chart, because when
you're looking at the horoscope, you'relooking at where all the planets are.
So what you're talking about is you'reisolating just the sun. But the sun
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is so vitally important because remember allthe planets, you know, circle around
the Sun, and the Sun iswhat gives us light, so it is
a very very important planet. Andactually in tropical astrology, everything is based
on the Sun because it takes intoaccount the seasons, because every single year,
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at the same time you'll have thechange of seasons such as the spring
and the fall equinox, as thesolstice points, the summer in the winter
solstice points. That's in the northernand the southern sphere. That's the change
of our seasons. So that isdepicted by where the Sun is right.
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So it's very important and that's whysun sign astrology is so important in Western
culture. In Western astrology, butwith sidereal astrology, what's more important is
actually the moon, and we takeinto account the lunar cycle more than the
solar cycle. And actually the cyclesthat I spoke of earlier, the dashes
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is what they're called. When youhave those enormous changes in life, that
is solely based on where your moonis in your chart. So when you're
talking about just going back very simplisticallyto your western sun sign, what happens
because all the stars we're talking about, the signs are because of the constellations
and the stars, these groupings ofstars are what constitute the constellations, which
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are the sign So when you sayyour sun is in Scorpio, then that
means that your sun is in theconstellation of Scorpio, where the stars such
as Antari's, which is the starof the heart of the scorpion, would
be there. So we're bringing intoeffect the stars. So let's just talk
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about the planets their location from ourvantage point on Earth, where they're located
in essence, through the backdrop ofall the stars. So when you say
your sun's in Scorpio, that's becausethe Sun is in the constellation of Scorpio
that time of year. So inother words, the planets, the Sun,
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the Moon from vantage point of Earth, they as they travel and I
know we're really going around the Sun, but we take astrology is called geocentric,
which means taking it from the Earth. But when we look at where
the planets are, there are goingto be in groupings of stars which constitute
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the constellations. So when you sayyour son's in Scorpio in Western astrology,
it would be that time of yearbetween October fifteenth October twenty eighth till November
twenty eighth, give or take afew days. But with sideial it's going
to fall backwards in the zodiac twentyfour degrees. Now a whole sign is
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thirty degrees. I know I'm gettingway too technical, probably, but let
me just put it this way.Your signs and the thing that you know
your son will fall backwards a sign, so it will probably fall backward from
Scorpio and you have your son inLibra, but the whole zodiac goes back,
so all of your planets go backtwenty four degrees, almost a full
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sign. So that's why when youlook at your Vadic chart, your planets
are in different signs than they arein the western chart. Does that make
sense? Yeah, but do youget it? So it's still gotten from
the time of your birth and wherethose planets. Yes, everything position everything
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moon, moonstars and planets. Sowhen you incorporate your time of birth,
that's where you're setting up like therising signs. So that sets up the
whole horoscope as to what houses allyour planets are going to fall in.
So you see a horoscope is depictedwith the planets, the signs, and
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the houses, and when you lookat your horoscope, the houses are the
areas of your life that things occurin. So when you look at your
horoscope, your planets are going tofall in a particular sign in a particular
house, And it's like if yoursun sign falls in the fourth house.
Fourth house deals with your home,with your family. You're going to be
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a homebody, You're going to loveyour home. That's going to be a
focus. So that's how we havethese different layers of the houses and the
signs. Here's what I say.The planets are the energy, what sign
they're in gives them, their personality, are their color, and the houses
they're in in a chart are goingto depict the areas of your life that
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are the most important, where yourgifts are, where your focus is,
what your interest lies, who youare. Does that help you understand a
little better. Yeah, okay,it's complicated, I know, But like
I say, people don't understand thisis a true science. They're always thinking
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astrologies like, you know, somethingyou know just fun to you know,
laugh at to you know, makeyour personality. But it goes so much
deeper than that, because astrology dealswith your cycles of everything. When you
came into this world, when youleave, when you come back, all
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of that This goes so deep.As I always say what astrology the saying
is is that know thyself and youwill know everything about the universe because what's
within is without, and this depictsyour entire lifetime of incarnations and really even
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who you meet and who you're connectedwith in this world. Because it's the
strangest thing when you really understand astrology. Different people's charts connect with different people.
Like you may have your moon inthe sign that your husband has their
son, but you see all theseconnections. We're all interconnected through this divine
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study of the planet, the stars. We're all part of this universe.
It's that profound, and it isthat deep. What does somebody begin to
Is there a website? Do theycontact you if they wanted to do it
on their own? Is there anapp? What's the best way for somebody
to find their accurate charts with Vedicastrology. Okay, that's a great question,
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because I have a free chart calculatoron my website. If you go
there and you click on the freechart calculator, it will draw your chart
up and if you'll scroll down thevery bottom. I always tell people to
go to the bottom because most peopledon't know how to read the Vedic chart
yet, and it looks like,hey, it looks like Greek, You're
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not going to be able to readit. But when you scroll down to
the bottom of the calculations, ittells you exactly what sign your planets are
in, what your ascendant is,and generally every I go through all the
signs, what if you're ascendant isin a particular sign, if your moon
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is in a particular sign, andwhat that month is going to bring for
you. So I do some likemany predictions every month for all the signs
that you know can give you alittle bit of guidance, but really,
if you want the real deal,you have to get your chart done by
a professional and they can give youthe timing of when things are going to
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change in your life, what youcan expect, and most of all,
what you're here to do. Yeah. I'm on the site now and I'm
filling it out. Yeah all right, and it's Galacticcenter dot org by the
way, Okay, so does thisgo by? So you're the time of
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your birth is important, right,So people kind of need to figure that
out first right before you go onthere. Try to get your time of
birth and it's on your birth certificate, especially if you're born in the United
States. It's a law that it'sit must be recorded at your time of
birth. And so many people willcall for the birth certificate, you know,
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and have it sent to them,but unless you ask for the original
with the birth time, they willsend you your birth certificate without the birth
time on it, like if you'retrying to get your passport or things like
that. But the original has theexact birth time when you were born.
And that's what makes astrology so specific. It's not just you know you're you're
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all born the same month. You'regoing to have the same destiny. That's
ridiculous. So it's the birth time. This is very accurate. Everything is
down to the minute of your birth, and this is what's going to tell
you about who you really are.And the Vedic goes deep into your soul's
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purpose. So the current dasha,what is that? Okay? Yes?
So, as I said, thisis all based on the moon, and
Vedic astrology is based on the lunarcycle. So the lunar cycle in India
is actually based on what are calledthe twenty seven nav Chatras. And I
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know this is going deep but eachna chatra each day where the moon is
in a different nav chatra. Andactually the nach chatra's length in the zodiac,
which is thirteen degrees twenty minutes,is the length of time that the
moon, the moon stays per signper day or per na chatra per day.
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So wherever your moon is, whatna chatra it's in all the knav
chatras. Just like the signs areruled by a planet. That means whatever
n chatra, your moon's in theplanet that rules that nav chatra. Start
your entire life cycles. And likeI said, that's adasha. So the
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Sun's dasha is six years, Venus'sdasha is twenty years. Now of course
your life's not the same for twentyyears. But these dashes are broken down
to smaller portions with subcycles. Butwhen you change from one of the big
grand cycles, that is when yourwhole life will change dramatically. And you
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know, sometimes when people are smallchildren and they change dashes, that's when
their parents move, they pick upand move to a different state, sometimes
a different country. The whole lifechanges dramatically, and that can be seen
by going backwards in time and lookingat each of these dashes. You will
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see, you'll change dashes when youmove and get married, You'll change dashes
when you go to college and starta new life. All these things are
seen in these cycles, these portions, and the whole Indian system is much
more detailed with these twenty seven nonchatras. This is the core in the
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essence of Vedic astrology, and itgoes deep, and it's very complicated,
but it is the true level ofastrology. Now let me say this too.
Every culture has their astrology. There'sChinese astrology, there's Mayan astrology,
there's Western astrology, and there's theIndian astrology. And I think these astrologies
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for their cultures really are about whattheir cultural meaning is about. So when
I say Western astrology is more aboutpsychology and personality, that's more of a
Western interest. But the Vedic astrologyit goes into the spiritual interest because India
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has been in such a spiritually orientedcountry throughout time. They have so many
rituals, so many practices, andso much devotion to their spiritual being.
And I'm not talking about, youknow, all these different deities or gods
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or saints. I'm talking about theessence of what God truly is, and
I think through all of our differentreligions and faiths, it's all about our
connection ultimately to the divine Spirit,which is God, which is in all
of us. We are all connectedto that divine Spirit, and you know,
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all religions teach that, and Ibelieve that we're all meant to find
our way back home and find ourconnection to God. And I really believe
astrology can help with that. AwesomeI do too, well, Joni,
thank you so much for coming onand explaining this siderial astrology. People want
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to check it out. If theywant to get a free chart, they
can go to Galacticcenter dot org toget that. There, sign up for
the email list and get their freechart. And then if they wanted to
work with you, to join youracademy or book a session, they can
do all that on the website aswell. Right, Yes, I actually
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teach. I have a whole universityof Veda astrology, and I teach.
It takes about a year to reallyget this down, but I teach people
to become astrologers. And my universityis all online, self paced, but
I give live classes every week witheveryone, and there's videos that you watch
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forty videos that you watch, youtake a test, and you're also assigned
a live tutor that graduated from theuniversity. I have people in every area
of the world, every country ofthe world that's part of my university,
and that's called University of Vedic Astrologydot Com. All right, so one
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more question before we go, whatcan we expect for the United States?
We have the elections coming up andwe know what usually rolls in with that.
Is it going to be the sameold samo or is are there going
to be any changes with this election? And what's coming up with changes for
the US? Well, I seea lot happening. This is the year
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that I call the Great Awakening,and most astrologers get their information from eclipses.
Whenever we have eclipses, I saythis is one of the most powerful
tools for prediction and eclipses. Well, this is all in a cycle that
takes eighteen and a half years.It's where the nodes of the moon are
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in the heavens. But let mejust say this, every year and a
half the nodes are and a differentsign. So the sign that they're in
for this year is monumental for change. When I go back eighteen and a
half years ago. I see somany things that happened. That was about
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two thousand and five. In twothousand and six we had Hurricane Katrina.
Then if I go back eighteen anda half years prior to that, we
come to a time when that waswhen Reagan lifted the Berlin Wall. Then
going back to eighteen and a halfyears ago prior to that, this is
the most important time was this wasthe year of nineteen sixty eight. And
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in nineteen sixty eight we had twoassassinations that were monumental. That was the
assassination of Martin Luther King Junior aswell as Robert Kennedy. And so this
cycle that we're in this year hasremnants of that cycle every eighteen and a
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half years. So let me talkabout what we're coming into this April I
say is a great awakening because we'regoing to have a total solar eclipse.
It goes right from Mexico through Texasthrough the center of the United States.
And last October we had a solareclipse that cross through the center of the
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United States and the X of wherethe and what I'm talking about when we
talk about these lines of eclipses.This is where the eclipses. This is
called the eclipse path, and whatthat means is it's where the eclipse is
most totally seen in the world.So it goes right across Texas, both
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of them. And so what I'msaying is there's an X in Texas close
to the border, and this symbolizesthat something important is happening to the United
States from the border because the eclipsepath crosses there. This is monumental.
So April eighth, we have atotal solar eclipse, and I'm not saying
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that the world is going to changeon that day, but is the beginning
of an enormous shift, especially inthe United States. And another thing I
see is when we come to theother time of an eclipse season, eclipses
happened twice a year. It willbe in October. And my prediction is
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something huge is going to happen inOctober that is going to change the elections.
Everything that we know about what's whatwe thought was going to happen.
And I don't know that we're goingto have our elections. I don't know
if we're going to be able tohave elections by November. Something dramatic is
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going to change this. I don'tknow if we're going to be attacked.
I don't know if presidential candidate isgoing to drop out, but some thing
that's going to change everything. Andthen I see great turmoil in the United
States and it's going to be happeningby December. There's going to be a
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big split December, and of courseyou know you can say, well that's
right after the elections. Well,I think the United States is going to
be split. And then between Decemberthrough February. February is a critical time
in twenty twenty five. Between Februaryand May of twenty twenty five, I
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think something monumental such as an assassinationof sorts could happen during that time.
So this is so much that wehave going. But one more thing this
April. We have a Jupiter Uranusconjunction on April twentieth, and to me,
this is called the Great Awakening becauseUranus is that planet of sudden unexpected
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windfalls in chain. It rules electricity, lightning, and Jupiter expands everything in
a good and positive way. Here'smy prediction. In a nutshell, something
is going to change. It's goingto open everyone's eyes. The world will
look different. It's not going tohappen in a day, but this is
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the starting point and for the nextsix months, there's going to be a
great, huge awakening, and fromthat awakening, we're going to go through
a birthing process as humanity. Yes, it is going to be painful.
Birth is painful. But one thingI can assure everyone that the best thing
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is going to happen for this worldand for the United States. But we
have to go through a period ofelimination. I believe darkness is going to
be eliminated and the light is goingto prevail, and something wonderful will be
birthed out of all of this,and we're looking at a much better world.
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But we have to go through thishorrendous birthing process and the elimination of
things that you know, you couldsay are dark that are not of the
light, because the light always prevails. But in the process of this darkness
being eliminated, you know, itmay seem like there's so much negativity.
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And that's what I call darkness,the negativity, the just the bad in
the world. It's being eliminated andit's will speak the loudest it will seem
like it's overwhelming because it gets louderbecause they're losing traction. But let me
just say, the best thing ishappening, and it seems very painful,
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but the world will be in abetter place. That's my prediction. So
you're saying the UFOs are come in. I absolutely know UFOs are coming.
I believe in them wholeheartedly. They'vebeen around, they've been helping us,
and they have to help us becausewe are still a society that kills one
another. That is beyond belief thatwe do such things. We kill each
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other. That's insane. So that'swhy they've been staying pretty silent and invisible
because they can't get involved with anignorant society of sorts. But yes,
they have to help us because youknow, anytime we use nuclear energy,
they come around because that is damagingnot only our world but the universe and
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they have to stop it. So, yes, their presence is going to
get louder and bigger and they're goingto help that's my belief. What is
yours about that? It is that, Yeah, I love it. I
don't know if I'll say this,I don't know if the increase of their
presence is picking up up in sightings. I know that the veil is being
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lifted from our eyes to be ableto see that they've been here the whole
time. And so we've been ableto see them and know that help is
here and help is on the way. They're definitely waiting for the opportune moment
for the shift to happen, andwe're, you know, maybe not like
you said, all at once,maybe a slow, you know, gentle
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shift for us. If you will, for the good, whoever the good
are, they would be promoted andto move forward with making decisions. If
you will, yes, we weneed the help, you know. And
it's there's been proof that they've alreadybeen here. There's been plenty proof.
It's just a lot of people areso afraid to accept it that with the
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facts and with the truth, theystill deny. And that's what that's where
we are right now. But likeI said, this great awakening is going
to end. Compass that the aliensare here and they're helping us. Yeah,
I believe too. And but yeah, like you said, it may
not be an easy transition for thosewho are going to be asked to step
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down. They might not leave withouta fight. But I think that us
who are of the light, we'llbe able to know in our heart of
hearts who's right and who's wrong inside with the good guys. And I
think I believe, just like probablymost of the people listening, the people
running this thing aren't the good guysby any means. M hm. I
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agree. I agree, And they'regoing to lose traction, They're going to
lose their their hold on people becausepeople are starting to wake up to the
truth and people know what's real deepwithin their hearts, because if they listen
to their spirit within, it willtell them what is truth, what is
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good, what is light, andwhat is good is what is light is
love being connected to unconditional love.That is the Divinity of God coming through
and we're all part of that.And when we connect more and more to
that light of unconditional love, that'swhen we wake up, and that's when
the world comes together, and allthese cycles, everything shows that we're coming
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to a much much more aware awarenessand consciousness and being united with the divine,
which is God. I agree onehundred percent, And that is a
good, good note to end on. My friend, Thanks so much for
hanging out with me and a guywho was able to get into this is
definitely hope. I'll say that it'shope that change we can believe in.
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Let's say that for sure, it'sinevitable, but yes, hope, love
and knowing that we're all connected tothe divine therefore that's what will prevail in
our future. I agree. Thankyou so much, my friend. We'll
do it again. Thank you,thank you so much, so much.
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