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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And so it's a really unique way of identifying. Firstly,
what's you know, like, what are these patterns? Sometimes we're
aware of them and often we're not. They're sort of
blind spots. So voice energetics can really pick up areas
that we weren't really aware of. And then you know,
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then we can use her voice, we can use singing,
we can use expression, we can use harmony to shift
some of these patterns.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to the Aligned and Magnetic Podcast. I'm your host,
Laura Ashley, Intuitive business coach certified by the International Coaching Federation,
and they call me the Money, Mindset and Manifestation Queen.
I take a spiritual and practical approach that's backed by
neuroscience to help you make your vision a reality, but
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more importantly, doing it in a way that lights you
the fuck up. If you're ready to create an aligned,
magnetic and profitable business so you can live a life
and do the work you are absolutely in love with,
You're in the right place. Get ready to hear the
powerful questions and raw lessons that you need to create
success your way. Thank you so much for being here.
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Let's dive in. Hey, Hey Loves. Welcome back to another
episode of the Aligned and Magnetic podcast. Today we have
Stacy Whitney with us. Stacey is a past client of mine.
Technically we just wrapped up our six months together. We
did some really amazing work. But today I really want
to showcase what Stacy does with voice energetics and singing
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and song and harmony because I've just, you know, I've
learned so much about I guess, personal growth and transformation
and even manifestation and how you can use your voice
as a tool in that way. So I would love
to dive deeper into what voice energetics is and how
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it can serve you with getting into alignment and working
out the stuff that kind of is going on on
a subconscious level. So Stacey has been singing her entire
life and has been fascinated with harmony since she joined
her first choir at four years old. Using voice energetics
and her love for creating safe, transformational spaces, she incorporates
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singing and song leading into her work with individuals and
groups to bring about deep connection, harmony, and healing. She
holds ceremonies, workshops, and retreats, as well as song led
group experiences for team building and group dynamics. In the UK, abroad,
in person and online as well. So you have your
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Masters of Science, Holistic Health Coaching and Deep Transformational Coach certifications.
You are very well experienced in all of the things
that you do, and I just love how many different
areas you kind of bring together in the work that
you you do. So welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah me too.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, So I know I kind of briefly summarized, you know,
voice energetics in my own terms, but I would love
to hear from you before we dive in what is
voice energetics?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, sure, sure, So it's I mean, voice energetics is
an interesting one and it's really it's been such a
great journey with you because I think before we work together,
I wasn't fully stepping into saying this is what I
did because it's new, it's a new field, it's sort
of emerging. So at its core, the clearest way that
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I can explain it is that it pulls from science
and it pulls from spirituality because both of these have
this very core belief that everything is energy, and as
we know from specifically from science, so energy is constantly moving,
it's constantly vibrating. And the really fascinating thing about our
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human instrument and our body and specifically our voice, is
that our vocal fold. Our vocal folds when they work
their expression through vibration. So you know, if we're working
with energy and we're working with vibration and we're working
with voice, it's all it's all vibration. So one of
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the core sort of tenets of voice energetics is that
the energies and the vibrations that are created when you
use your voice to sing, to speak, or just I
actually expand it to include expression not only with the voice,
but for purposes of voice energetics, we'll just say the
energies and vibrations that are created when we use our voice,
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they reveal information, and they reveal patterns within you, within
your energetic field and within your life. And so it's
a really unique way of IDENTI to find firstly, what's
you know, like, what are these patterns? Sometimes we're aware
of them and often we're not. They're sort of blind spots.
So voice energetics can really pick up areas that we
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weren't really aware of. And then you know, then we
can use our voice. We can use singing. We can
use expression, we can use harmony to shift some of
these patterns. I was gonna say to heal, but it's
I don't come from the belief that we're broken or
that we're necessarily flawed. It's more just sometimes we have
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patterns in our life that aren't serving us, they're not
working for us, and we really were ready to shift them.
So voice energetics can sometimes sort of leap frog, you know,
not over but through these areas and with some other
forms of therapy. Excuse me, can't I often lose my
voice when I'm talking about voice energetic, So we'll go
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into we can analyze that later.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's so funny because I was about to ask for
an example, and there's one kind of race here. But
I'm curious because you know, you mentioned the patterns and
everything that sometimes are blocking us, or don't We don't
know necessarily that they are blocking us until we use
some sort of tool.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Or a like awareness tool.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right for me, I use a lot of journal prompts,
for example, But it sounds.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Like you use the voice as that tool.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's like that mirror to look back within yourself and
see like, oh, this is something that's not maybe working,
or there's some sort of kink in this energy or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
So I'm super.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Curious what you see as I guess common patterns or
blockages that tend to come up, just like in your
workshops or with clients, if you have any that are
kind of common.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, well, losing its one, I've just demonstrated that. Unfortunately
it seems to have come back. So yeah, so common things.
There's often I mean, I think everyone understands this. Everyone
I've met, let's say, understands this experience of being nervous
before they perform, before they use their voice, before they
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So that can be it doesn't it's not only an
on stage thing. Like on stage is a really good
sort of focal point for it. But you know, if
you're in a group and you need to speak or
or have something to say, and you get a little
bit like, you know, like shaky, and so that's sort
of that energy that comes that, whether it's nervous energy
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or just you know like I have to speak, I
have to speak, or I don't want to speak, I
don't want to speak. Those are all really obvious ones
that that we get when we're in a group situation,
and you know, voice energetic can be really powerful because
there's something about being witnessed in using our voice that
just brings stuff up. So yeah, that's a really common one.
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Another really common dynamic that I notice is tension, like
how people sit with tension and resistance, And I think
I did a blog post on this actually, where like
how you are with tension in your body we can
do we can do a little sample of that later
if you want. But because you know, I see tension
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and resistance as similar things, so it's a sort of
like a friction energy within you. Something is resisting or
something is contracting in response to something. So so when
you know, it's a really you know, I mean, the
word harmony comes from music, So when we're not in
harmony in our lives, we have different responses to that,
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and we can sort of shine a spotlight on how
we're responding to that we might not have been aware of.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, it's almost like you know, being in your flow
versus you know, feeling like you have to push toward
the things and just keep you know, coming up against
obstacles and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Right, Yeah, exactly, I'll stay just on that note that
there's this really you know, it's a personal practice of mine,
but also I use voways a lot to just sort
of notice patterns and just work with accepting what is in.
You know, in response to your comment about flow, Yeah,
you know, there's things that we can resist anywhere in life,
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and we often do. And I can resist my voice
right now, I can resist there's something, there's something come here.
And you know, if I were on my own head
a little bit more space and time, I'll just say
with that and say, well, that's interesting, what's that. But
there's something about there's a power in sort of turning
turning the light on yourself, just saying okay, what's going
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on here? And we spend so much time in our
lives like just trying to push through, trying to get somewhere.
I don't know where we're trying to get, but we're
trying to get somewhere, right, So yeah, it's a really
lovely tool for just saying, Okay, well this is happening,
this existing, this is you know, whether it's a blocked
voice or whether it's I'm standing on stage and I'm
supposed to say something and I feel really nervous, you know,
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there's just a space. And I think this also comes
a little bit from the very much from the deep
transformational coaching practice that in the background that I come from,
which is like, let's just give some more space to
what is and see what wants to emerge from that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
What are some aside from being on stage and all
of that, what are some other ways that maybe some
of your clients have used or you've helped them use
voice energetics in their lives to maybe shift dynamics or energetics.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah. Sure, yeah, So the one that pops up immediately
was a really powerful one that I think I've shared
with you with one of my clients who she came
to me with a I just really want to find
my power and my voice and I really want to
and how to sing. And she didn't believe she could sing.
She'd been told she couldn't, you know, even just that
somebody telling you. I mean, god, there's so much in there, right,
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there's so many of us who have been told things
in stories beat me.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
There.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But I was curious, well, what do you mean? Does
that mean you don't sing a key or you don't sing?
Like what? What does it mean to not be able
to sing because we all had this instrument, So what
does it mean to someone, you know, someone else's projection.
So yeah, so we started meeting, and very quickly, you know,
like within the first few minutes, I said, well, you
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have a nice voice. I don't understand what this this is.
And then so then we started singing some different songs together,
different sort of harmonies, and and what I realized really
quickly was that her tone and her voice was fine.
It was her rhythm that was off. And this is
actually really common. It's really common. I find it in
singing groups a lot as well, where people said, oh
I couldn't get that song it was it was too hard,
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and it's like, oh no, it's really so much of
it is often about rhythm. And so as soon as
I noticed that someone's rhythm is off, is by off,
I just mean it's like not on the same beat
as I'm on, I say, okay, so let's look at
what's going on in your life with rhythm, Like what's
what's your relationship with rhythm, with structure, with planning, with
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daily you know, daily anything from daily rhythm to monthly
to yearly too. And as I was asking her this,
she started laughing and she said, oh yeah, it's like
it's ridiculous. I can't stay on rhythm for anything. So
it was such a beautiful, you know, pinpoint because she
hadn't clopped at any point that that was holding her back.
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So we basically worked almost exclusively with rhythm for probably
a couple of months, and you know, it's these are
things that can be taught. I think people say, oh,
I'm tone deaf, or I don't have any rhythm, but
it's you know, I don't believe there are very few people.
I'm sure there are people listening. I'm sure there be
people listening. He' saying oh that's me, I'm tone deaf.
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There actually very few people who are tone deaf. Tone deaf.
I think it's I think it's like seven percent or
something or less of all people actually can. And of
those people who are tone deaf, what I've read is
that a lot of them can still be taught to
match because it's a vibration.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Right. So if you know I've had I had someone
who was deaf come to one of my singing was
it was sort of a twelve week choir that I
did and She's like, I just love singing so much
and I want to do it and are you okay
with that? And I said, I'm okay with that if
you're okay with that, And she could hear, she could
feel the vibrations, and she was absolutely fine. The hardest
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thing was seeing the words because when I'm looking around.
So we figured it out by writing words for her
and having other people help her. But yeah, so you know,
take heart if you feel like you're one of those
people who's tone death is yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And it sounds to me like whatever the you know,
the uses or blockages are for people around singing can
be not necessarily fixed, but worked on. Right, Why would
somebody want to work on this? If someone's just accepted that, like, oh,
I'm not a singer, why would they want to maybe
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work with their voice?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah? I mean, god, there's so many There's probably as
many reasons as there are people, right, But I think
people come to me more often because they correlate their
their voice struggles with other areas of their lives. So
I'm not a technical person and I'm not a technical teacher.
You know, it's just not I was sort of classically
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trained in the beginning, and I sort of shunned that
because it felt so perfectionist and so yeah, so technical,
and it just didn't really match with who I am.
So I think, you know, where I see where I'm.
What I'm really fascinated with are the correlations and the
patterns between you know, the energy that we put out
with our voice and how that correlates to your life.
And so if you're, for example, if you're struggling to
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like I have people say, oh, I really want a
lot A big thing is like, oh, I don't feel
like my voice has like I can project or I
have a lot of power. And so we can work
with that, but we really look at how is that
applying in your life? You know, where in your life
are you feeling powerless? Where in your life are you
feeling not heard? Where in your life are you feeling
like other people aren't seeing or hearing you? And so
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we can work on them simons simultaneously by shining that
light of awareness on both. But it's just a lot
more fun I think to work on it through singing,
then through well, let's go and you know we can
do that as well. We can go out and we
can practice talking to people and we can, you know,
but if we work on it in this sort of
more joyful, supported and fun way of singing, then I
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think people, first of all, are more motivated. It's more
fun to do it. And I see the you know,
it's sort of like, don't I don't like the word tackling,
but it's sort of like tackling an issue from different
angles so that you can kind of get really get
in there and address them.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Absolutely, I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I remember when I first started my business and when
you know, I was getting on social media more often,
I felt nervous, like you were saying, you know that
those nerves and I always was like, well, what if
I say.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The wrong thing, or what if this? Or what if that?
You kind of get lost in your head.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And at the time, I was living in Mexico and
I was going to a couple of kirtons, like the
singing circles there, and I noticed that, along with some
other deeper work, really helped me to get to a
point where I get nervous still sometimes, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
As big of a deal as it was way back then.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So I can totally see how like working with your
voice and singing and also just you know, the biggest
thing for me, I think was singing. My sister was
the singer in our family, right, and I my voice
is kind of like high pitched, and I don't I
don't know if I have my pitch right or something
like that. So I was always just I don't know,
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something's off about my voice. I don't know what it is.
But I was always nervous to sing in public, right,
And so when I started going to these care tons,
that's what was coming up for me, was like, oh,
I don't want to sing in public. I'm going to
be off pitch or like my voice is going to
make the group sound so bad or whatever. But it
was actually really healing because I came to the point
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where I was like, you know, just like who cares.
Everyone here is singing and sometimes you hear some other
people that don't sound you know, the greatest, and you're like,
it's just it's for fun.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So yeah, exactly, and I think that that's I mean,
you know, there's those two parts. So first, this is
the question is is like I often think like, well,
you know, cause I get nervous. Obviously, I'll get nervous
for things and I would say, well, what am I
actually nervous for? What is that? You know, when it's performance,
it's sort of sort of obvious, there's an energy there,
and there's this fear of messing up or being judged
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or all that. But it's always a really interesting question
to say, well, what am I actually nervous for? What's
the worst case scenario? You know, and am I strong
enough to handle that? So that's the first sort of
step of it. And then something I always say in
the beginning, usually in the first few weeks of any
new singing group, I start is, you know, we're not
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here to get it right. We're just here to do
something really beautiful together. Maybe maybe it's not beautiful, but
maybe it's really just uplifting, empowering. It always is beautiful.
But if you take that pressure off and you say
you know there is no wrong, don't I really don't believe,
you know, I'm very much the believer in it was
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it penicillin that was discovered by a mistake, you know.
I just think it's like when we we put so
much pressure on ourselves in life, and you know, to
get things right, and you know, I know it as
better than anyone. Really, That's why I went into this.
You know, I I stopped singing for a lot of
years because it just felt so much pressure. I felt
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so much pressure to if I was going to be
in a singing group, it had to be the level
of performance, it had to be perfect. And I just
found like, oh, so much stress in my body around it.
And then I stopped. And then when I started singing
came back to singing, I thought, what, you know, how
can I do this and use this in a way
that feels you know, connective and contributing to something greater
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and not about judgment, you know, even just emotions. To me,
it's like, yeah, this sort of military rigidity, it's a
good word. Yeah, And again it really pinpoints how we
live our lives. So you know, this is this is
something that I work with a lot in my life.
Is just you know, working through imperfections and fear of judgment.
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And and the more I do it, the the more
fun life is. Really, you know, there's so many things,
there's so many things that we hold back from doing
in life because we don't feel good enough. I think
that core belief of I'm not good enough, it sneaks
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up it's really sneaky. You can sneak up in so
many ways. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Absolutely, That's probably one of the biggest things that I
had to work through as well when I was starting
my business. You know, business along with singing, brings up
all of that personal stuff that's beneath the surface that
you had no idea was there. Right, So yeah, I'm curious, what,
because you mentioned tension in your body and resistance, what
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is the impact of that, Like, how would that affect
somebody's life holding on to all of that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know what I was just
saying in then not fully participating, but I mean, you know,
in a bigger and longer term, it leads to illness,
it leads to you know, ten in the body, it
leads to cortosal, it leads to stress, it leads to
you know, there's there's all this sort of medical and
science areas, but energetically, it's like you just think, well,
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if you hold something tense for like, you know, if
you have an elastic or something and you hold it
at tension for long enough and for hard enough, eventually
it's going to snap.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It's just that's just kind of what it does. It
eventually becomes weaker. And so when we hold ourselves intention all,
you know, all the time, habitually throughout the years, and
sometimes of course more stressful things happen and we hold
it tighter, and if we don't learn techniques to sort
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of counterbalance that, then you know, it can just lead
to dis ease, you know, unease in the body and unwellness,
and not just physically, but mentally, I think mentally maybe even.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
More absolutely, yeah, And you know, I know, nervous system
regulation is huge right now.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's blowing up on social media.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's I think another another thing that you notice, you know,
anxiety is greater and people just can't you know, ground themselves.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, nervous it's regulation, hormonal balance. It's also huge, you know,
is because it's all affecting the chemicals in our body
and the way yeah, just the way in which we
can be in the world. So it's you know, it's
got like far reaching implications.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I just want to draw a parallel here because you know,
obviously anybody can experience tension in their bodies, and I think,
you know, it's something that I've seen and that I
work with a lot in my practice as a business
development coach because a lot of my clients and this
is something we had to navigate as well. You know,
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there's these strategies and these like follow these launch plans
and do da da da da da, And it gets
to a point where it feels like it's good to
have a structure and a knowledge and a foundation of things.
But when it's taken to the extreme, it becomes so
rigid that you end up just like strangling the goal
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or the outcome that you want, right completely, Yeah, yeah,
do you want to share any of your experiences about that?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh? Completely? I mean, gosh, you have such a unique
insight into I love that you still want to talk
to me after the the the deep insight you have
into my mind. I think from our first session you
were like, oh yeah, okay, I see you're a manifesting
generator as well, and so I've I'm like, right off,
I was like, oh my god, does she really get
my mind? Because I had this thing where, you know,
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I was like, you're kind of okay, so what do
you do? What do you want to do? And I
was like, well, I got this, and I've got this
and I've got this and I've got this and this.
I don't really know how they go together, but I
think like I kind of want to do them all,
and I don't know, I don't even know, Like I
don't even know what I was saying. And you managed
to sort of like pluck these threads and just be like, Okay,
So what I hear are you saying is it's like,
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oh my god, she's magic. So but what I noticed
that all those thoughts were doing, and I'm sure you
noticed as well, is that they were they were causing
me a lot of stress. Yeah, it was like just
too much trying to trying to make sense of all
this in my head and even trying to fit them
into any kind of strategy or any kind of structure.
And I was it was sort of leading me to
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this place of inaction or or like or sort of
half assed action because the things that I would take
action on I wouldn't have my full attention. So I
feel like you helped me somehow sort of clean up
clean up cluttered mind, which was you know, and then
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that you know, trickled And it took a little while
because my mind, you know, our habits can be quite strong,
as I know, you know, I know, I kind of
could have used some voice energetics on myself at that
early point to point out what was doing.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But yeah, I remember something else I want to bring
just to people's attention because I think, you know the
people who tend to gravitate to me. So I include
you know, my listeners, clients, future clients, people on social media.
I feel like the common thread among us is that
we are a little bit more multi dimensional, not that
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other people aren't, but we're tapped in in some way,
shape or form, and we're on a healing journey and
an awareness journey and an awakening journey, and a lot
of us are here to.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Help others heal, grow, evolve.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And what's interesting to me is, you know, when these
worlds of healing and business collide, what I see a
lot of it, and I include myself in this, is that
we abandon what we know, you know, in our practice,
like the voice energetics or for myself, it's like you know,
energy healing and you know, being in that divine, feminine
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and all of that. We abandon that because we believe
we have to do you know, the strategy to get
to the goal, to do this and that and then that,
and I just want to bring this up because there's
such a parallel with the work that you do in
that releasing of the tension and letting go of the
outcome while still directing and working toward that outcome, but without.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So much pressure. And yeah, it's I just.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Love that, you know, you bring you bring another tool
that people can use to practice relaxing and to practice
letting go through the muscles, through the body, through the voice,
like through all of those different different areas.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think that speaks to
one of one of my probably most powerful you know,
and all the the in the multidimensionality that we are
a lot of probably a lot of your listeners will
be similar to us, and that they're really drawn to
take lots of different courses and trainings and which itself
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can be a pattern. So I'm not judging it. I
do it as well.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
We're also learners here.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
We're also learners exactly. And that's the thing I'm never
going to stop that. I love it, you know. And
one of my most powerful in all of that is
when I studied deep transformational coaching, there are nine sort
of main tenets to how to hold transformational space and
actually have them on my wall. So what number is
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at number two is release agendas and live your spiritual values.
And I you know, when I first read that, I
was kind of like, release your agendas, but then like,
how do you ever get anything done? And you know,
I went from that to holding spaces with no agenda
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And it's amazing actually, and I love that that you
brought this in because the not I said it before,
You know, where are we all trying to get to?
That's probably one of the main stresses life really is,
is agenda. So if you think about it in terms
of performance, if you think about it in terms of relationship,
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if you think about it in terms of healing, if
you you know, if any area in your life, if
we have if we know we have to get from
A to B, there's immediately a certain sort of stress
tension around that. It's like I have to get from
A to B. Sometimes it's easy and it's very little stress.
But if there's something you know in the way blocking
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or if you don't want to get there, or if
dat you know, if whatever happens, there's just this immediate
sort of contraction that's going to happen in us and
the ability to come into a space. It's a really
powerful tool for anyone who holds space to say okay,
you know, whether it's massage or singing or coaching, whatever
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it is, to come in and say, okay, well I'm
holding space for you as an individuals, as a group.
Now where do you want to get? So let's have
these intentions. I still set intentions in my groups and
in my clients and in my singing groups. I say,
you know, where do you want to go? What focus
do you want to have? What outcome do you want
to have? And then my next invitation is okay, now,
as much as possible, can you release that? And it's different,
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you know, not everyone can. But I find that if
we can release that, it makes way, It makes room
because the other thing about having an agenda having a
point B is that point B is limited by our minds.
Point B is what our minds are conceiving. Right. But
if we can say, well, I want to get to
point B in theory, but I'm not attached to it
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looking like that, like then the universe is like freedom
Russian and say actually, I've got this much better, much
more expansive thing. Can you be open to that you know.
So it's a really powerful practice to be able to
come in and set intentions and be aware like maybe
we want to get somewhere, but then can we release
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but that looks like how we're going to get there, what
it sounds like, and just trust, you know, find some
level of trust in ourselves and in the process.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, and enjoy the process too, right.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I think that's one of the biggest things that I
see in entrepreneurs is that they get to this point
where they're just actioning all these things and they you know,
to get to the end goal, but then they you know,
don't enjoy the way there. So you mentioned that you
have a demo that you can walk us through.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Do you want to you want to do that?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah? Do you want to do some voice energetics? So
the first thing to say is that's it's really interesting
working with voice and song online. It's very possible and
it's very powerful, but it's different. You know, I'm not
we're not in a room, we're not as a group
right now. Whoever's listening is listening after we've done this.
So you know, if I was in a room with
a group, we just I say, I'm going to sing
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a note and then you sing it with you know.
And so when we're on zoom, usually if there's a group,
everyone has to be be muted except for the stuff
for me because there's a delay. So with these exercises,
maybe not as much. But if you're singing a song,
it's just it sounds like chaos if you're not meaning.
So I think we're gonna we'll try this with with
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you if you're willing to be put on the Yeah,
I'm put on the spot.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
This is like not I don't want to say nerve wracking,
but I think I've gotten to a point where I
have accepted that I am an example and that I
can be that example.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
So I will, I will I appology because it's yeah,
so we're here to have fun. There's no agenda, right, perfect,
So I don't have to we don't have to prove anything.
No one has to learn anything. We're just here to
enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So and how can the audience join in too?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, so the same things that I'll say to you.
So we're gonna start off and I'll just say, like,
I'll sing a note and I'll say, just sing that
note with me. Okay, we'll start off really simple, really basic.
And then so anyone listening can do that as well.
If you're in a crowded room, people just think you're singing,
it's fine, but you know whatever level. Okay, so I'll
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sing a note, I'll sing ah, yeah, just sing that
with me. So and then when you run out of breath,
just take another breath from your belly and it's just ah,
so for it last year. First, let's just take a
big Yeah, that's good. I'm like, yeah, Sol would take
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a big breath and turn it out with a sigh
A great. Yeah. Yawning is great. Yawning is great in singing.
And every time someone yas, I do as well. Sorry,
but it really opens up your palette, your sort of
soft palette, so it allows allows for a better tone. Perfect. So,
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so I'll sing that note again and then we just
sing it together for like for a minute or so,
and if you run out of breath, then we us
take another breath and keep trying.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
So ah.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
So sometimes on zoom it cuts out like you're cutting
out for me a bit, but I can hear you,
so I'm not sure how it'll be on the recording,
but anyone can still do it. With me, so do
it one more time?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, great, So that's you know, that is as as
basic a song. It's not a song, it's a note
that we can get. So the first sort of voice
energetic lens would be say, well, how like, you know,
what was happening within you when you were doing that?
I don't know if you have any answers? Do you
want to well?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I mean I definitely was.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I was trying to match, and I was thinking, like,
I don't even know if I'm on pitch.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You were. I mean, it's almost ere.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, but yeah, I think yeah, that was just it
was just my brain talking kind of like, yeah, working,
but I'm gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah. Yeah. And that's so common, you know, especially when
people start and they're not used to saying so much.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
So I could feel a little bit of tightness in
my belly, I think, probably because I'm not like super
you know, relaxed, and I didn't do my vocal warm
ups this morning.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, great, So that's the first part. So you know,
so anyone listening and doing this as well can just say, okay,
what did I note? And of course it's worth noting.
It's different if you're doing it on your own versus
if you do find yourself in a crowded room and
suddenly going, oh, you know, what's what are you noticing?
Then that's actually a really useful exercise. What's going on?
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Are people judging you?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Okay? So that's the first one. So i'll see again
if the sound works with this or What we'll do
now is we'll sing two different notes in a harmony.
So I'll get you to sing the same note you
were just singing, and then I'll add a harmony note,
so you'll sing ah and I'll sing ah. So you
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just have to remember ah. So I'll start off with
you and then i'll go off to the harmony.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
My might end up going higher.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
It's totally funny because that's very revealing. Yeah, that's that's
part of the process. So we'll start together.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I can't actually hear you, I put this is why
we don't sing usually on zoom. So this dude again,
and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna pretend I can
hear you. Okay, start you.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Ah, I'm just doing this as if you're on mute.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
No, I can't really hear you, so so could you
hear me saying the other note? Okay, And did you
feel like you were in harmony? How did I couldn't hear?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I think I stayed on my tone, I think okay.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, And what did you notice when well, what did
you notice when I left you and went to the
different note? What happened?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I mean it was still kind of like wondering if
I was keeping the right.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean that's really you know,
like when it first starts, it's going to be a
lot of is this right?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh? I think that's it? Is that? And then as
you do it more and you become comfortable with a
you know, with with just that exercise, then you can
start to notice qualities about Oh, like what happens in
me when we when I go from we're unison, we're
singing together to harmony. It happens because there's a shift.
There is something that changes not just in the sound,
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but in ourselves vibrationally. So, okay, so that's the second bit.
Do you want to do a third third bite? And
then people want to do this, they can rewind it
and try it again and see what happens. With So
the third bit, I'll tell you what it is. Now,
sometimes I don't tell I just do it, but I'll
tell you what it is because I can't hear you
when i'm saying. So this is this is the tension.
(37:33):
So now I'll start off with you and then I'm
just going to sing a note. Sometimes I find out
hard to find the wrong but I think I'm just
going to sing a note. That's that's that's going to
conflict with you, Okay, okay, and if you can sometimes
it's hard to but if you can hold your note,
just hold your note and then I'll come back to it.
So I'm going I'm going in blind. So okay, so start.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
With Ah, I felt I felt like I was singing
the wrong note.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I don't know, my voice changed.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
But that's so interesting that even just you're like that
slight change in I guess what is that tone?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Is that tone?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Pitch? Yeah, pitch, Okay, it's a different note. So yeah,
it's really fun to do that with a big group. Yeah,
I can have two sides or three different sides clash.
And so so it was this is a this is
a very mini experiment. But did you notice anything within
yourself when that was different from the harmony.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
One, different from the harmony one.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
The second one, I think, just like, am.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I doing this right?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Was like the biggest thing, because like it sounded like
when you were you changed pitch. I sounded like my
pitch was way off, and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Suddenly it's like crunchy. Don't you call it music? It's
like crunchy. Yeah. And so often people will follow I
do this with my ten year old and or else singing,
and I'll move no, and he just follows, and you know,
and it's it's it's so you know again, a voice
energetics reflecting reflection would be like, okay, well, where in
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life isn't an area where when somebody changes, like even
if they're wrong, right, I'm the one who went off,
But do I follow them right? Or do I feel
like I've done wrong? That's a really really common dynamic.
Someone else has done something that sort of messed up
the tone, you know, and then the person who was
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holding that original one, it's like, oh, what did I
do wrong? So it's a it's a you know, it's
like a I guess it's a question of sort of
core belief and maybe resilience and strength is like, can
I can I stay You know, that's something that you
can that's practicable. Yeah, I practice staying on that note
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no matter what's going on around me. That's a really
valuable life skill, you know. Can I be that that
sort of pillar in the storm? You know that when
you're like walking on the beach. Yeah, and you see
like where there used to I don't know, sometimes they
have these like wooden there's a little bit of a tangent,
but these wooden pillars on the that maybe used to
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be part of a peer or maybe they're but they're
sometimes if it's a stormy beach, and that I really
love that sort of analogy of this this thing that
can be so steady no matter what's going on around
And that's such a valuable life practice, especially in today's world,
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, And it comes to mind obviously business, because how
many of you will take action and decide you're going
in a certain direction, you know, But then after a
couple of weeks or a couple months of trying that,
you just oh, no, one's no one wants this, Like, yeah,
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this isn't interesting, it's not good. I'm not good enough, right,
so yeah, I actually I love that that reflection there
because it's true.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, amazing, thank you.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Oh, thank you, thank you for being my guinea pig.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Okay, So you know, I talk a lot about alignment,
and I'm curious about how how does alignment come into
the picture with voice energetics.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
That's a good question. You know. The exercise we just
did is a really good example of if voice energetics
is really a really useful tool for picking out or
pinpointing very quickly, where are we not in alignment? Where
am I not in alignment? Where am I not in harmony?
Because I think harmony? Is this harmony another word? I've
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never thought of this as harmony another word for alignment.
Harmony and unison are both forms of alignment, right, So yeah,
I think it's a It definitely can be used as
a tool to figure it out. And then on a
more personal note, I think the alignment, you know, it's
been such a gift working with you, because it's been
it's been like Gos's just to have this space to
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sort of sit and flesh out well, what is it
that I what is I really do? What is it
that I really stand for? And there's there's so much
there's you know, it really helped me realize that what
I'm wanting to do is I'm wanting to bring upliftment.
I'm wanting to bring harmony. And this is why I
get into working with voice and song is ultimately because
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I believe that more harmony makes a difference in the world.
And I wanted to you know, shift energy. And you know,
there's nothing less than evolution of consciousness. So I think,
you know, to be able to look at what I'm
doing through that lens of is everything I'm doing now?
Is this again? I have so many different ideas, so
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I use this as a filter of is this an
alignment with my why and you know what I stand for?
Or am I just getting caught up in those you know,
those shiny objects or that other I mean I have.
I think maybe that I'm not very good with social media.
I know it's a bit of a belief, but maybe
that's also a it's a gift because I don't get
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as caught up as I used to because I'm like, well,
I'm not gonna try that new thing because I just
want to come back. So yeah, so I think it's
a really it's a valuable tool to both to point
out areas of alignment and then to strengthen them as well.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, and see where we're maybe where we have beliefs
that don't serve where we're headed as well. Right, Like,
because you were asking what you know, what came up
for you and that? Yeah, and I yeah, I love that.
I am a firm believer that what's happening on the
inside is happening on the outside. And it sounds like
that's like the premise or the model or whatever you
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call that that you work with as well.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Completely. Yeah, And I think I think hearing you say
that just flagged up for me. I think one of
the core things it does is it points out the
obstacles to alignment. Yes, because without seeing and understanding the
obstacles to get there, it's kind of we're kind of
just sort of like flapping around, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Kind of push our way to the end goal, whatever
that end goal is.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Okay, So you have a really fun event that you're
working on right now.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
That's news a new event that you're working on. Do
you want to tell us more about it?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah? Sure. The Solstice Serenity twenty one day Earth Song
Creativity Retreat. I'm not sure if I said that in
the right order, but yeah, so it's it's just a
free creative space and there's an invite for anyone who
wants to come. I tend to find that, you know,
the spaces that I create are often spaces that I think, oh,
(45:18):
I could really use that. And I know this time
of year, especially in the North. You know, I'm in
the far North, I'm in northern Scotland, so so where
it's it's getting very dark now very quickly, and you know,
people handle that in different ways. But it felt like, oh,
to create a space, an online space that anyone can
(45:38):
just drop in and literally spend like two or three minutes,
five minutes longer if you want, obviously. So it's twenty
one days of just a container held on my Facebook
page and the idea is to listen to one of
the Earth songs. So I put out a what do
(45:59):
I call it. It's not an album, it's I put
out Earth Oracle.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Earlier that was one of the projects that we worked
on which was just such a such a treat, and
this is a it's a it's a series of channeled
songs from nature from different elements in nature, and so
I would just go into nature and I would, you know,
tune into a tree, or tune into river or stone
(46:24):
or you know. I used elements slightly broadly because there's
twelve of them. But just listen and I would hear again.
This all works in frequency and vibration, and I would
hear a song and then I would, you know, I
would sing it, I would remember it, and then I
would record it. And so I put out this Earth's
Song Oracle, and the idea is to use it the
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oracle itself as a like a card deck, but with songs.
So you know, you want some guidance, you want some insight,
some inspiration, and you can just choose one of the
songs and listen. And there's a guidebook that comes with
it as well. So the Earth's Song Creativity Retreat is
(47:07):
using these songs to just listen and then just like whatever.
So I've been doing it at my desk and one
day so far I wrote, one day, I drew, one day,
I just felt like moving. And it's just really to
sort of take this quiet space and connect because the
Oracle songs are really great at just connecting us. Very quickly.
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There's a free song called Life Song, which is available
if people don't want to purchase the whole Oracle. If
people do want to purchase the whole Oracle, there's a
twenty one percent discount on until December twenty first. So
it can all be found on my Facebook page. Is
that where it can be found. It can be found, Yeah,
(47:52):
facebook page.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I will link your Facebook page in the show notes
as well as the link to Earth Song Oracle.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, it'd be great. I've had I've had a lot
of people say, oh, yeah, I've been doing it, but
people are being very shy so far about sharing, so
that's coming. Yes, some people say I'm gonna share, I'll
share soon, and I get that because, yeah, it takes
a lot putting ourselves out there. So it's fine, you
don't have to share. It's it's optional, But it's really
just there as a space for when that like busy
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sort of pre Christmas, sort of December, you know, the
hustle and bustle feels like, oh I just need a
few moments of.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah yeah and to like realign with the flow.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Something that I really loved about the Oracle is that
instead of like a card deck for example, which card
decks are beautiful. I have my you know, set of
card decks too, but instead of it coming from words,
because sometimes I find that we can overanalyze the meaning
and words and like, oh what does this mean?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Like what am I supposed to do right exactly?
Speaker 2 (48:55):
And we can become a little bit too obsessive with
what that right direction or answer is. With the Oracle,
what I really love is it's really forcing you to
tune into what's coming up for you and using your
intuition and your own inner guidance as that direction as
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that you know. So it's it's just building on that
self trust. And yeah, so I definitely check it out.
I love the Oracle. I think it's such a beautiful product.
And yeah, and there's twenty one percent discounts, so it's
an amazing time to get it.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, I just I was just having this conversation with
my husband yesterday about because he's quite political, and I,
you know, try not to go there too much. I
was just saying, yeah, but you know there is something
about like our way forward now has to be listening
to the earth as well. Yes, it has to be there.
(49:53):
So much wisdom this planet has been here for millennia,
and we've been here for what, like, I don't know,
a few hundred fift thousand years and the Earth. No,
you know, there's just so much wisdom contained in this
planet and there are different ways of accessing that wisdom.
And the oracle really felt like one that just came
through and it's it like you said, it provides wisdom,
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but it's not telling you the answers. It's giving you
the sort of the the energy and the frequency and
then allowing you to to intuitively direct where you need
to go. So yeah, yeah, so yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Is there anything else that you feel like sharing or
that you want to leave our audience with before we
close off?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I think I'm just feeling I feel really grateful, I think,
you know, so grateful for our connection and for being
able to work with you. It's been really I'm like,
I'm really really sad that.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
We're going to stay.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
We'll do more things together, you know, and you kind
of feel like, yeah, I really yeah with someone and
I've really enjoyed so I would, you know. I mean,
if anyone has any any questions about working with Lauren,
I'm happy to guide them. So great, and I so
recommend working with you. Thank you, yeah, thank you for
helping me well and likewise.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah, yeah, totally, Yeah, it's been such an honor. I truly,
truly feel so grateful to get to do the work
that I do.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
And to work with people like you.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
And something that I'll also mention is actually your freebie
section on your website. So Stacy has different freebies, one
of them being I Say Yes, which people are absolutely
loving right now, and this is just it's a song
to kind of start saying yes to things, is my understanding.
And there's a couple of other freebies on there as well.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
So if you are.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Interested at all in using your voice to help you
navigate personal business, life challenges, professional challenges, then definitely check
out the different products, of course, but also the free resources.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
To just kind of get a feel for what it's like.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
So yeah, thank you so much. I'm so nice.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah, thank you for coming on and sharing all of
your knowledge with us today.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Such a pleasure. Yeah, and look forward to being worser.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
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Speaker 3 (52:20):
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and until next time, I'm sending you waves of abundance.