E972 - Matt Rogers, Austin Nichols, The Valley & Next Gen Finales, Uber Cancels Men, and 5yr Anniversary - Alkebulan Love Podcast

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Speaker 2 (01:14):
What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode
of the Volafoles Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick
and boy G Whiz. Once again. Do we have an
amazing episode lined up for you guys. Later on this show,
we got the hilarious, talented, iconic Matt Rogers with us,
and you are gonna want to stick around for that.

(01:36):
Get ready to pee your pants, laugh out loud. It's
gonna be a lot of fun. He was recently in
town hosting the Culture Awards with his co host Bowen Yang,
and he is with us to talk about all things
really TV culture, pop culture, and it's going to be
a ton of fun. Also, later of this episode, we
have Austin Nichols. You know him probably from One Tree Hill,

(01:59):
but also he is in the new reboot of I
Know What You Did Last summer and we have him
later this episode to talk about his new movie and
so much more and coming up shortly, we have Taylor
Own and James Neil. You probably know them as an
adorable couple on TikTok that likes to do impressions of
your favorite Rally TV characters, like from Summer House The Valley.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know, I think Love Island.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Either way, they're with us shortly to talk about the
Dark Dark Valley, but to kick things off. Apparently, yesterday
was mine and Ally's five year anniversary from which we
started dating. I don't know about all the other married
couples out there, Lea, do you have? How many anniversaries
do you have with Danny that you celebrate?

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Well, we don't remember when we started dating, but we
rounded up to the next month, so we celebrate April first,
sometimes just as like a hey, if you remember, Sierra.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Do you now that you are engaged? How many anniversaries
do you guys have?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, we obviously will have July first engagement anniversary next.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So you celebrate the engagement anniversary.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm just kidding to celebrate yet it just happened. So
next year on July first, we'll have to ask her.
Did y'all celebrate your engagement?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Do we celebrate all? How did you figure out because
I you know, well, first of all, I want to
thank my wife because she got me a very thoughtful
card and wrote a very meaningful message that quite honestly
felt good and.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Honestly though didn't count because didn't put on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
It counted for me, like definitely my love language up there.
In words of affirmation, it was very much thanks for
being you and everything that you do for us.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
It was received with a lot of love, so thank you.
I do appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
For those of you guys asking, I actually did not
get nally anything. I did not know it was our anniversary.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now, like, did you this is this officially the day?
Because like every summer it's always like it's around this time.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, I just decided to pick this day. Okay, yesterday?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Did you officially ask her to be your girlfriend on
a day?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
He was like, you need to call, like we need
to talk, Like can you come out to La so
we can just like talk about this because I just
can't do this anymore. And I was like sure, Yeah,
I came out to La for like a weekend and
then it was we basically had like a talk and
then I guess I left there being like, Okay, I
guess I'm moving out here.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
A little bit your mind.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yes, we're together exhaust.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I definitely I.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Don't remember will you be my girlfriend? But I guess
like yeah, I guess we're like no, we're like, yeah,
we're gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Like official.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Do people do that still, like officially ask someone to
be their girlfriend?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I know, I don't know, I do. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
I feel like you're just kind of at each other's
house and all the time, and it's like, well, you're
not seeing anybody, and I'm not seeing anybody.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I guess in the book, it was definitely not that.
It was definitely not like twenty twenty five where it's
just like okay, we're we're like we're exclusive, but we're
not boyfriend and girlfriend. It wasn't like it wasn't like
we're this, but we're not that. It was definitely like
we're all of it. Also, if we're going to do this,
you should probably move here.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
We're all in. We were all or out exactly.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Not Yeah, you would love to experience that one.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean, obviously we were still like going to go
to like our swinger parties and like and orgies and
things that we were already.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Doing obviously, you guys, we're having a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
But you know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
For sure, yeah, still swinging, but you're swinging from each other.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
You both are picking a key out of the bowl.
Well no, no, no, Now we're at the park swinging
with our daughter. Oh yeah yeah yeah, hey, that's growth.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
You guys, What do you think of men in sweatpants?

Speaker 7 (05:31):
H hot?

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Do you see them?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
What do you think of men in sweatpants? What do
you think of people in sweatpants?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Honestly? I mean I love sweatpants, so like.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
On your body or just the aesthetic of looking at someone.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
I am the person that is wearing sweatpants at the airport.
I do not have an outfit. I like going looking
like trash and leaving looking like trash.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
I'd love to see someone looking and feeling cozy. That's
one they're the most themselves.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm definitely not an island. I'm by myself.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
No, honestly, so Nick like Nick wakes up in the morning,
obviously sleeps in like underwear and then wakes up and
puts on jeans.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, no, I put on in the morning. I will
put on sweatpants in the morning.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
You were wearing these pants this morning.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
No, no, no, no, that's not true. Sometimes certain pants that
I will take off before I get in bed, we'll
put back on when I get out of bed. Sometimes
I'll get sweatpants. But if I'm wearing sweatpants, it is
in the morning. After that, I'm not a loser.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Don't call me a loser. Yeah, I think about it
in I have you didn't say you that you were
a loser or self respect. You said I feel like
I have the flu.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, when I wearing sweatpants in the middle of the day,
I feel like I have the flu. It's giving, Like
I just can't get out of bed.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I give up.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
If it's giving, I give up, and I have an
achy achy body.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
I think you're ignoring the intentional rebrand of sweatpants into
joggers so people wouldn't feel like losers, because that's all
they did. They just started calling sweatpants joggers, gave it
a singed ankle and boom public.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
But well, if you're talking about leggings on the ladies,
I am down.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
No, I'm talking about joggers, which are just sweatpants with
a better name.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Leggings are not joggers.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
What are joggers.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
They're like sweatpants elevated theirs sweatpants that cost eighty dollars
an inkle band.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, so I posted. But I posted a picture of
Nick wearing these on my story the other day and
like gave the like story of Nick doesn't wear sweatpants
and he just like put these on. And I'm like
always begging Nick to like just like rot with me,
like just put on some sweatpants, like let's get cozy,
let's like get cold. It's just a cuddle and get cozy.
And he can't do it. He's allergic to it. And

(07:38):
so I posted it and I had so First of all,
I had so many dms a woman being like my
husband is the exact same way. Wait no, actually, like
like everyone's like this is a man thing, like my
husband's exact same way. And then I've never been told
so much like respectfully, your man is so hot, and
it was like it's because of the sweatpants.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I don't I don't get it. I just can't do it.
Maybe it's just like old meat or whatever. When I
would like at my sales job working for home, I
had to like put clothes on. Like the mentality, the
mental disconnect of wearing sweatpants. It's like it's I'm not working,
I'm not contributed to society. I'm a dead beat dad.
If I'm wearing sweatpants at the end of the day,
I'm a dead beat dad.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Meanwhile, me, I like, get River ready. She looks so cute,
she has like her hair done with the bows and
a cute outfit in her shoes. And then I am
in sweatpants and a big T shirt and greasy hair
and a bun, and like that's how we go throughout
the day. Pries literally get the baby dressed.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Of course, well.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
All the all the other men out there, who who
you're not alone? That does feel it feels good. It
feels really good to ladies. How do you feel about
Uber's big announcement that apparently soon the ladies will be
allowed to order Uber drivers that are specifically women just
cancel them.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Men, do you feel like they're going to take like
a little bit longer to get to you because like
they haven't left their house yet.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, like they'll be like on my way still there.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
I don't think you are. I think the amount of curbs,
ran into and ignored just went up by thirty five percent.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Literally, honestly, I feel like I'll be among friends because
I won't have to be like, you know, like all
of the lights lit up on the dashboard. It's like
I feel at home when that's like when that's in
the case.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
When I first started dating Alley, she she drove my
car once and hit a curb slightly kind of grazed
it like parking, and then she came home with like
a very like I'm in trouble. Oh no, and then
like what am I supposed to do? Kind of like
I guess it's fine, I get are you okay?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know whatever?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
And then and then I'm pretty sure going forward. There
were several other instances where I think maybe things got scratched,
but because I really like handled it maturely the first time,
I think she just decided like, oh it just it's fine, fine,
he doesn't care. Like one time we were driving home
and we were driving up Laurel Canyon and the any roads,

(10:00):
and I think now I was feeling a little race
car drivery and uh literally it just like hit the
side of the road.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
No, the curve was out further than it ever was.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
That's why she literally said the curb moved the curve.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
She's like, oh my god, that that side of the
road came out of nowhere, Nick, like it's.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Literally always been there. I'm like, no, they moved it
out further recently.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Well, Nick, this is kind of bold of you to say,
as you're the only person I know the in real
life that has ever nicked my car.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh oh, I'm saving that one.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Get get them married.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I put a I put a note on your car.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was like, you did.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
He said, I'm so sorry, I'll pay for this. And
I said, actually, that scratch was already there.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It wasn't you.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I wasn't sure.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I parked and I was like, I just fucking hit
Mary's car. And then I saw a scratch and I'm like, okay, no,
I was that whole shood.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
And there was like like really no parking, like it
was like tight, you know, like, and so I'm trying.
There's like one parking spot, like one car didn't really
park the best to get into there. So then I
unfortunately had to like park kind of like fucked, you know,
because that car par anyway. So I'm like in my
spot and I go in the grocery store, I'm grocery
shopping whatever, and I come out and I'm driving, and

(11:07):
then I see like, oh, someone wrote a note like
on their receipt and I was like, oh my god,
it's probably a fan of the podcast, Like, oh my god,
someone literally like you know, I was like, oh yeah,
like that's so sweet. So I literally like add a
red light like got the note, because I was like,
I don't want this to fly away, like I want
to make sure I read this note because this is like,
you know, someone's like so sweet. And I read it

(11:28):
and it was like you parked like a fucking asshole,
you stupid bitch. And I was like, okay, okay, So
now what I thought it was, we'll never read a
note on her car ever, literally anyway, and I should
have let that blow away.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
In the wedd will.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
You will you ladies be utilizing this new feature?

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Oh hell yeah, I'm gonna say seventy five cents to
every dollar I took.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah exactly. I will also honestly be using it. That's nice.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Do you like talking?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Sometimes if if they can hang, sure, but if it's
like awkward, no, I think you catch the vibe early on.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
If it's like it's one, if it's ever one of these,
you know where you're like, maybe you're checking out at
the grocery store. You're like server and you're like, how's
your day, and they're like, oh, I'm tired, you know,
and you're like, Okay, I didn't, you know, I wanted that.
I'm good like I don't. We don't need to. And
I left work last night and I'm and I didn't
get any sleep because I had this pounding head. It's like, okay,
and wrap it up because I didn't ask for all that,

(12:27):
you know, And I feel like that's maybe what we're
going to get a little bit more of because women
feel safe with women and we feel like we can
chit chat.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Will men be allowed to utilize this?

Speaker 6 (12:36):
No, that's the whole point, literally, the whole point.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
No, But as passengers, no.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, because I bet the women drivers are also like,
you know what, I don't want to drive a man's bad.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
They should just kill us all you yeah said.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Well you said it. No, it actually is giving. Did
any of y'all start watching Dexter Resurrection? I know the
new Dexter they.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Keep trying to keep it going, and honestly, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's pretty good. But it's basically about, like, you know,
it gets into like Uber drivers.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Dexter's now an Uber driver.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Dexter's an Uber driver in New York City.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I mean that happens there a lot of I wonder
why Uber wasn't okay with the Dexter franchise using their name,
so like he's going to be a serial killer, and yeah,
it's you driver.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
They said pass.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
They said pat. Well, that's why they were like, fuck,
we got to give them women drivers.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
No.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Two women only drivers.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
This is the worst mar The legends of late night
TV got together. Obviously we have all heard of Stephen
Colbert in the Late Night Show itself being canceled, and
and media the landscape is constantly changing and evolving, and
obviously late night television is has been something that's been
you know, talked about in terms.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Of like what's the future look like.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
It was this very nostalgic, I think, just to see
all these legends get together, from Stephen Colbert to Andy Cohen,
Anderson Cooper was there. You had Seth Myers, Jimmy Fallon,
John Oliver. I think those are all of those shows
are New York based. Jimmy Kimmel didn't look like he
can make it, but he's out on the West Coast.
But it's just a cool moment, you know, for all

(14:19):
of them get to get together. Always kind of charming
and nostalgic. What was your favorite late night show growing up?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Guys Letterman and that was my same.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Was George Lopez. I definitely was, like I knew I
was up too late when I heard that song come on,
Oh hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
That's real Niche did George lothe show?

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Wait the George Lopez sitcom? Or is late night show?

Speaker 9 (14:40):
No scom?

Speaker 8 (14:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (14:42):
So did you ever watch his late night show?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
We're talking about late night shows?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
But that was my late night show?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Okay, late night like like the Tonight Show or like
not not a sitcom?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Like you didn't watch it? Neither did I? That's the point.
Not really, And I did not watch late night television.
It was late night and I was watching a show
and it was a show. Yes, the Office is my
Now you can explain it how you want. That was
my late nights. Just what late night means to me?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
All right, Well, it's time to get into some of
our favorite reality TV shows, starting with the what we
like to call now The Dark Dark Valley, and with
that time to bring in our guests Taylor Owen and
James Neil and they are up next. Well, welcome to
the show, guys. It's great to have you. Obviously, we've
laughed at much of your content that you guys have

(15:32):
posted on social media. I remember seeing you guys break
down Summer House recently and I think a lot of
people enjoyed that. So we are happy to have you
on and figured, well let's just bring them on since
we love.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Talking about some of the stuff that you guys are
covering as well.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm just curious how you guys are engaged together.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, so when when did you guys like.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Engaged together or engaged separate separately?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
You are together. You are officially a love couple's first
in a comedy act.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Second.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Yeah, a lot of people think siblings, but you.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Know, oh that's great.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, they like to keep him guessing, you know.

Speaker 10 (16:09):
Yeah, we started making succession videos online and everybody thought,
because we were playing Ken and Shiv, that we were siblings.

Speaker 9 (16:15):
Yeah, but no.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Page out of Nick from Love Island's book. Who do
you see his old vine videos where he was you
tried to convince the internet of his girlfriend was his
sister and they made out.

Speaker 9 (16:28):
No, I did not see that.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
Oh my god, he's taking our bit.

Speaker 10 (16:31):
That's it's a good bit to follow, you know.

Speaker 9 (16:35):
It's how many.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
We were talking about this earlier. How many anniversaries do
you guys celebrate? And then I guess what I'm saying is, James,
how many anniversaries are are you forced to celebrate?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (16:47):
Man, I guess the only one that we to be honest,
we don't even celebrate it. But it was when we
became boyfriend girlfriend got dark and then I proposed last
year in June.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, did you celebrate?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Did you celebrate this June?

Speaker 8 (17:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
No, we did?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
We did it?

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Oh god, we do. We celebrate May eleven, Yeah, which
is what we've been together nine years. So we do
celebrate that. Thank you, Thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
So, I guess just one, but we really don't celebrate
that either. Maybe when we.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
Get to we both forget to be To be truthful.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Here, when did you guys realize that it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Just love that brought you together? But you guys could
work together.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
Great question.

Speaker 9 (17:30):
Well, we went to school for it.

Speaker 10 (17:32):
We both met at Chapman University as screen actors. We
were studying there and we were friends for probably like
a year until we really started dating. And then we
made like.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
Some YouTube skits, and.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
You know, we always knew we wanted to work together
in some capacity because like I was his big ast fan,
he was mine hopefully, and I think just then, yeah,
when TikTok came around, we've been actors for a long time.
I mean we're like, let's just do this together.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, y'all are crushing doing it together, So thank you.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah you're I didn't even watch Succession, but I watched
your bit. Oh I have no idea what's going on,
but this is Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
That's all you need. That's all you need.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well, let's get into the valley.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
We did have Luke on and his shorts.

Speaker 10 (18:20):
Yes, yeah, I wore jeans today because of that.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
He kind of with his little knees.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Clearly, I don't think Luke listens to our show, which
I totally get on the regular. I am anti shorts. Like,
if you're an adult man and it's not a heat
advisory out, you cannot wear shorts in public if you're
not working out.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Oh, you're just saying like you can't go out of
your house with shorts on.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah. I just don't think.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Has really strong opinions on two articles of clothing, sweatpants
and shorts.

Speaker 9 (18:51):
What's your sweatpants take?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, if I'm wearing sweatpants in the middle of the day,
I feel like I have the flu.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
The shorts one, I give a little like, what if
you're golfing, you know, on golfing in the heat, or
you were in pants?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I mean yeah, I you know, the golf course is
a whole another animal that I club.

Speaker 10 (19:14):
I can say that pants definitely is a better look.
To Luke's credit, he had good legs. Okay, yeah right, yeah,
but I think I'm.

Speaker 8 (19:23):
With you, Nick.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
So people are talking about his interview. You know why
because he wore shorts so real. Maybe he's just a
media mogul genius.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Nick, Honestly, you knew what he was.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
He got the people talking. He also got Jack Taylor
talking allegedly. Yeah, I think Jack Taylor is our number
one listener. Oh Jack, Yeah, he's got to be blocked.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Nice but we had We had Luke on Tuesday. He
was Onday's episode of Reality Recap. You know, he's very
honest about his feelings about all the guys and you
know the rest of his cast. And he posts the
screenshot of a tech he gets from a random number,
and it says, maybe you should not go on a
podcast and talk shit. You are a loser. We never

(20:07):
liked you. You did last longer than six months, grow
some balls. You can only be friends or talk to
people Kristen allows you to. We all knew you were
whipped anyways, never trusted you.

Speaker 9 (20:18):
And yet he's still on the show.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, he posted that, and Kristen says, this is one
hundred percent jacks from another number.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean, who else would it be.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's Fred Drudgeson.

Speaker 11 (20:30):
Yes, it's his alter ego.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
As someone who's like inside the group. He couldn't help.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
It wasn't even that carefully crafted.

Speaker 9 (20:41):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
You are a loser and we never liked you. Who's we?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, he surprised, didn't say this is my show.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I know, I know.

Speaker 10 (20:50):
Listen, Lisa had him pegged way earlier on she knew
it's just it's giving high school bully Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Yeah, he's the he's the toxic yeah, high school boyfriend
everybody got away from.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But he does true. Well, we do have a rapid
recap of the valley, so let's get into it. It
is the finale of the most miserable show on TV,
thank God, and Janet wants Kristen to punch her in
the face, so she'll go to jail and have her
engagement reen taken away. Question Mark lovely as always. Jack
thinks Danny is two faced, which is the word he
used to describe people who experience guilt and regret. Jesse
actually has actions. Jesse actually has an actually kind of

(21:29):
nice conversation with Michelle. But most importantly, Zach raises the
question what is more painful injecting botox into your scrotum
or a friendship with Janet? The answer probably won't surprise you.
It's Janet. Then, at Michelle's Zen party, she must have
secretly cursed the crystals, because, oh my god, here's what happened.
Brittany finally realized Jack's was a greasy man child. Jesse
pride Jax decided he needed to give Danny advice on
his drinking issues, and proceeded to have a mental breakdown,

(21:51):
therefore destroying the Zen. Danny then comes in with a
banger revelation Jack's has slept with his staff, and somehow
Janet still somehow comes out of this evening as the
worst person in the group. The show makes no sense overall.
Will Jack Taylor sees to exist without a camera in
his face? Will Janet come out of hiding? Who will
get divorced next? Find out at the reunion?

Speaker 9 (22:09):
Wow? Great recap.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I mean honestly, it was a boring episode up until
our Zen party at the Michelle Zen party and like, yeah,
I am worried for Zapp. Yeah, go on, what was
what was that? Actually it was.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
The definition of literally screaming cars throwing up. He was
he was screaming, he was crying. I thought he was
throwing up. He was literally gagging. Not to mention once again,
we have a sober Danny and a room full of
people who are black out drunk, blacked out drunk, Like

(22:44):
everyone in that scene was blacked out drunk, and except
Danny and Nea and I don't know. Listen, maybe Danny
throws a few back once in a while and gets
a little sauced like he is the human. You know
what I realized recently out like this show and just
like following this kind of like group of people that

(23:05):
a lot of them originated from, like Vander pump Era,
and then like some people who are like, you know,
still part of this universe that are out there trying
to keep their reality TV show going through their whatever the.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Ship they're doing, like they all.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
This is a group of people who just like all
they know how to do is throw each other under
the bus.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
That's like all they know how to do.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's just kind of crazy. That scene where Jack's walks
up to Danny and then Brock with his bleach blonde hair,
It's like you almost realize like did Brock know, Like
was he like, you know what, I'm gonna dye my
hair because this is around the time where like shit's
gonna hit the fan and I don't want anyone to
recognize me.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I don't know, but like he looked into camera and
he's like, I'm getting the.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Fun out of here is about to happen.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
Just like, yeah, you're gonna want to step away from.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
He saw Jacks come and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna leave.
That's my cue. That is Mike you.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
I can't say for Brock as someone who has bleached
her hair to maybe think that maybe people won't acknowledge her.
It doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Right.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
No, everyone's just like, you're blonde now, and I was like,
you saw that, you saw that, you notice you notice
that my hare is a completely different color, and I
look completely different.

Speaker 10 (24:19):
Sometimes you watch reality TV show just so you can
feel like you're in the room with these people. I
love Southern Charm because of that, because you feel like
you're hanging out in Charleston at some point, you know,
when you're watching The Value, You're like, do I really want.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
To be hanging in the valley hanging out with these people?

Speaker 10 (24:33):
And like most of the time, no, No, you know,
God forbid that the guy takes a swig of tequila
and gets crucified for it.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's it's and we still haven't let it go. Like
we're so many episodes away from that.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
If that's what we have to talk about, then I
think that.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It also was crazy to hear Zach yell you're a
whore to Janet so.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
So aggressive whatever, Janet, It's like, how was this allowed?

Speaker 10 (25:02):
Yeah, and Jason being able to like hold himself back
from that.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
I mean that's.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Jason was like, Jason was literally holding himself back.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
He was like, oh my god, just someone keep me
away from Yeah, please stop me. I'm dangerous.

Speaker 7 (25:16):
Yeah, like insults were a little weak insul It was like, Benji,
you're a nice guy.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, but that was I mean the like by he's
like making faces. He was like he went full Toddler mode. Yeah, Janet,
and I didn't even.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
Think he knew. Yeah, I un watch what Happens live
after he was like, yeah, I don't even I was
so drunk. I don't even know what I was saying.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
Yeah, we know.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, boyfriend trying to take the wine glass out of
his hand and he said, no, stop it.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
Yeah, Ben, She's like, what have I gotten myself into?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Another night at Yamashiro.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, I've said this before. I know Sierra is going
to disagree with me. More evidence that Britney is equally
as horrible as Jack Taylor.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Interesting surprisingly, I mean I'm not gonna say equally as,
but I will say as the season has gone on,
especially last episode when Kristen got engaged and how she
was like when they were like.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, why do we have to be here Danny and Nia,
and I was like, because your friend got engaged. Yeah,
Like it's like very much.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm seeing the like how you were compatible with Jack's
a little bit like where I'm like, you're making everything
every moment about you, right, and this is like your
friend's celebration.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Get over it.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah, and they're still not divorced.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I got no time for people who are adults who
say things like well, they were just never remained to me,
so I just don't have a problem with them, Like
they just sucked over your friend and lied to your
other friend and they're calling your other friend like they're
literally spreading rumors about them. No, but for sure they
were totally cool with you.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
Yeah, no, she's yeah, yeah, and they're not divorced yet. Still,
Like she went on and she was like, yeah, I
forgot to like send in paperwork, so it's not not
till I What.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm saying, this is a group of people. All they
know how to do is mo ties like each other's trump,
like their whole playbook of like getting attention and shining
a light on them.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
It's like this whole universe. It's like for me to rise,
someone in.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
This group has to fall, you know, like that's it's
it's the only formula they know how to work with.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
So it's also so exhausting because we got this season
the reunion trailer. We saw that and you see at
the end of it Andy being like, Brittany, are you
still in love with Jackson? I swear to fucking God
if we get a yes, it's like we've got.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
We're so Britney.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
It's the same old crap over.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
What do you think like the next season will look
like without Jackson? With all this drama? Is there a
next Like.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I mean like to your guys.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Fun and like there's humor and like nothing, like I
did not laugh once in this season. There was not
a moment of like, oh it's like relax and put
on the valley and just like watch some good reality TV.
It was like, oh great, I like hate my life
and I hate every young I want to.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Have some kind of respect for these people like Luke
and Kristen, Danny and Nia. I got respect for them.
Like you know, you're not looking for perfect people. I
want people who have flaws in their life or whatever
and have to overcome some adversity and work with them
ship and I want to see them like crush life.
I want them to like have chase a dream and
do some cool things like there this is a group

(28:25):
of people who are just chasing clout and trying to
step all over each other over the like the most
craziest things that don't have any sense of like family
values or like they you know. I mean, I'm watching
adult men talk about a fucking boys chat, you.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Know, and it's boys chess.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
Just a bunch of fucking losers, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
So yeah, I honestly like Jesse's tears, like.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Did you buy him nod.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Say, I don't want to growth. I want to be ground.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
What the fuck is that you learned that from his
like his friend therapist coach life coach?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
What is show?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
What is not showing versus being? It's like, well, you
are showing growth, I mean honestly, that's He's like, I feel.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Like words speak louder than actions.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
It's like if I say it, it will be and just.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, because like showing it. Honestly, I don't I don't
want any part of that.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (29:25):
No, the day where all the guys went to Jesse's
house and we're doing whatever the hell that was that? No,
that was comedy. So I'll say that was the one
point in the show that I got a.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
Good laugh at.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, when the Life Coach or whatever was like and
this is called a list.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, and we know you you literally listed things off
for sure.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
Also, they like squeezed so much drum in in like
that collage at the end where they're like, here's now
just every fight everybody's having and like hopefully everyone will
latch onto something. I was like, this is a lot
I'm having exactly from everybody's plight, not a four.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Way split screen, everybody yelling at each other and crying
like I'm good.

Speaker 9 (30:06):
They all hate each other.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, do you think Jack is Jack's Taylor going to
be part of the reunion? Yeah, he's there, he is.
I think he's there.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I sort of got if they try to, if they
try to get me to and I'm not going to
to be clear, I have no empathy or sympathy for
Jack Taylor or Jesse, but if if they try, which
I suspect they will, I'm gonna be so fucking annoyed.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
No, we had Brittany, and I wouldn't touch that dirdy
dick with a tim foot Pole and Jackson Owen. That's
not what you said four months ago.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Impression.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah, that was very good.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
Yeah. I don't think Andy will let him off the hook, right,
Andy's got to hate those guys.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I don't feel like he does. I feel like made
him a lot of them. That's why he had Jackson
watch What Happens Live, you know, Like I feel like
he was a tough watch. It was a tough watch.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Should we get into some next Gen? It was the
finale of Next Gen as well, Yeah, which apparently Christy
Tiggan says, this is like the best show on television,
and she's, oh, I don't really think she's watching much else,
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean, it's fine. I just you know, I'm only
to give it different some time.

Speaker 9 (31:15):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I can't say that was like totally captivated.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yet I will say that, I'm like.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
The thing that I like about Next Gen that I
wish The Valley had more of is that I do
like watching people aspire to accomplish things and have jobs.
And I'm like the Valley, I'm just sitting there, like
y'all are justally going to each other's house, is talking
about your closest friends. I would like more than just
Kristen having photo shoots, like, I would like to see what.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
You guys do. Great point to keep a roof over
your head outside of this.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
That's my favorite part of the show is Meredith and Brooks.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yes, my god, that's.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Its own show.

Speaker 10 (31:50):
I completely agree. Well, it's tough, like with reality shows
when they're not actually friends, like they're all just kind
of coming together for the season. It's kind of it's
a slow burn at that point. I love shows where
it's you know, these people are have long history.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
With the right, like she could come out from the past.

Speaker 10 (32:08):
Yeah, there and his mom a lot of history. That
was an interesting conversation at the at the.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Table, we have a rapid recap for Next Gen and
it is clearly written by Mary because I would never
have any of these thoughts or opinions about this show.
Go ahead to give that disclaimer. We're eight episodes in
and sadly we're happily it's already the finale. But don't
cry because it's over. Smile because Brooks will finally be
able to know peace. Georgia went exclusive with her anarchist

(32:34):
crypto boyfriend Omar, but Emira said he's a scammer. Okay.
She's also decided to name her club club Club. And
for those still confused, Georgia is opening a club and
the name of the club is Club Club. Once again,
because I know it's a complicated concept, It's a club
called Club Club. Get it good. Moving on, Brooks debated
merging his company with Meritith because he saw a video
of a bird flying out of a nest and dying
on the pavement once fair enough Diva. Ultimately, he decided

(32:56):
to take the risk and focus on his own company
and resort collection, which the Vallfall staff would be happy
to test out if Brooks you're interested. Finally, Georgia Soft
launches Club Club and it's literally just a normal bowling alley.
Sorry girl, but she does get investment money from a
dude with a man bun and Brooks, inspired by the
seven to ten split, got so close to confronting Ava
for skipping his birthday for a fake event, but didn't
quite get there. But then at the end of the

(33:17):
episode there's this rapid fire info sash of their entire summer.
Georgia and Omar moved in together and then broke up.
Then she posted a whole asked TikTok about it, He
stranded her in Singapore and moved in with Charlie. What overall,
please make a full season of this and watch what
happens like reunion Andy please signed Mary.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
Wow, very nice, very nice.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
I'm Next Gen's biggest fan. Oh yeah, More, it is
not a Bravo reality TV show more. It is more
the spiritual successor of Lena Dunham's girls, and I stand
by it.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I do think the one in LA will be so
much better than the New.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
York I disagree.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, how co I think Sammy Sheen is great television.
I think she would crush I think Cynthia Bailey's daughter
is also, Like, that's just a great dynamic we need.
I just think there's so many more we could have,
Like you know, maybe some of Kyle Richard's daughters we
could have, like you know, like there's Heather du Bro's kids.
Like there's so much to pull from there that I

(34:18):
feel like it could just be really good.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
And do you think you would do all all Bravo
babies or do you think they would grab some likes?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah? I think they definitely have an option to like
pull uh chet Hanks, but not chet Hanks.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
You know, here's my thing on next gen. Next Gen
New York City works because of the New York City
idea of old versus new money, right, because then you
have like Charlie old money but then still kind of
like pour and unexperienced in like relationship with the Bravo
kids who are new money but experience. So it's already

(34:53):
like interesting and you have like old New York versus
like the Atlanta like people. So that's fun and it
works on like the Great Gatsby esque spiritual New York ideal.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
And then but when.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
We we bring it to LA and it's kind of
just like, oh, it's everyone in someone's kid that's like LA. Yeah,
so what's interesting about that? Here's the only way to
make next gen LA interesting. You get you get Bravo people,
you get Nepo babies in the entertainment industry, and then
you also get the poor kids in the entertainment industry.

(35:25):
So I want like the head of CIA's son to
be in it with that guy's actual assistant, right like,
and those are the fights I want to see, God,
because that's where you're gonna get And then throw Sammy
Sheen in there and see what she does. Like, that's
where you're gonna get incredible television.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
I really, I've never thought of next gen like any
of this. You've really enlightened me.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
Here, Christen is all about class struggles.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
No, and that's it's basically like the Gilded Age of
reality TV. Yes, yeah, wow, that's that's now. I'm in now,
I'm not lighting.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
What are What is your favorite really TV shows that
you guys are generally watching these days and not nicely
in this moment.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
But right in general in general.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
We love Summerhouse, Big Summer House, Love Summerhouse. James loves
Southern Charm.

Speaker 9 (36:16):
Southern Charms. She got me into it at the beginning
of this year.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Because of the boys you feel represented James.

Speaker 9 (36:21):
James I represented by Shep Rose.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
No, I really, I really knew that. Thomas Ravenel I
was like James, like, there's this guy on it. He
stands up, he insults everybody at a dinner party, just
trust me. And he watched the first episode he was like, oh,
this is good TV.

Speaker 9 (36:38):
I like yeah.

Speaker 10 (36:39):
And speaking of like the storyline there of like Craig
starting from like the bottom, coming on the outs of
this society and then making his you know, way to
being kind of above those guys, and.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know, are you a Craig stand? Do you think
he bought the ring?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 10 (36:54):
I'm not a Craig stand. I don't know too much
about the ring gate, but no I'm not. I'm not
too much of a stand.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
Do you think you bought the ring?

Speaker 3 (37:03):
No?

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Okay, all right? What about when he showed that picture
on another podcast, He's like, this is the ring? Do
you think it was like fake?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
I do wonder why he didn't show Andy that ring
on like that photo and watch it up and.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Right, because I didn't have it.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
It was a picture of an engagement ring. A picture
of an engagement ring.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
Right, you can change it, truly, you could probably loan one.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Didn't he say he bought it in March? And then
like the photo was also taken to March. Everyone was like, wait,
I thought it was like had to be like custom made,
So like, how did you buy it in March but
then also have it at home and Charleston on your
nightstand also in the month of March.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
Craig's timelines never really truly So yeah, no.

Speaker 9 (37:48):
You did say he was a liar on the ship,
not a.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Liar tell the Storytelly just really gave.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Like we've all been like broken up with and we're like, well,
I was gonna take us on a trip and it
was gonna be amazing, you know because like one time
you'd be like I should do something nice for my
my my girlfriend. I know, I never really do and
then they break up with you and then you bring
up the thing that you always thought about doing that
you never did, Like that's totally that's how it gave. Yeah,
so true.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
I was just going to become a great person and
you broke up with me. Yeah, that's how my pot
Yeah life, I was going to change everything.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, it was great to have you guys on. Thank
you for breaking down our favorite TV shows with us.
Where can people follow you if they don't already know already?
Where you're making people left out loud on the internet.

Speaker 7 (38:35):
Making people all at Taylor Grayson and James Mitchell Neil.
We also just started a podcast called The Regular Update,
so you could find us there.

Speaker 10 (38:45):
Every Tuesday, and then we're going on tour if you
want to catch us live this fall. We're hitting some
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Speaker 2 (38:50):
So busy what does a What does the show look
like for you guys, It's.

Speaker 10 (38:55):
Like a two person SNL show, just us two going
up doing live sketches. You have some digital sketches as well,
some live music components.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
It's a fun time. It's like an hour hour fifteen show.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
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Speaker 1 (39:07):
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Work people will find work. People find tickets.

Speaker 10 (39:10):
On our link tree, so yeah, go to our instagrams.
You can find it there, and yeah, come on out.
It's a really good time, incredible. Well make sure you
guys go check out their link tree see their show.
Thank you guys for coming on. It's been a ton
of funks.

Speaker 9 (39:24):
Appreciate it so much, all right, appreciate you.

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Really excited to be with you. We're huge fans.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I myself just want to say I absolutely loved you
one day after Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
I've always been obsessed with that movie. Like I remember
singing in the theaters back in the day. There was
something about like cold the Pottalyptic that I'd always fel
like I'd always like visualize, like what would it be
like to like have to trek through like just ice
cold weather. I don't know it was. It was really
near and dear to my heart. So just just know
that you impacted my life greatly in that movie.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
I'm glad you liked it. That was a lot of fun.
It was my first, you know, like.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
Big budget, huge movie, and I remember getting there and
walking onto these sets and just my mind was blown
with that they built like, you know, half a block
of New York inside a soundstage and then flooded it
with cars, you know, flooded it with water, and there
was cars and buses and cabs and it was just
you know, larger than life.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
So it was a really cool experience.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Obviously, we many of the people listening know you from
Montree Hill. I grew up watching I Know What You
Did Last Summer of the movie the series. Where do
you want to start first? Should we talk some I
Know What You Did Last Summer? Or do you you know,
dodn't want to scratch the itch of all the One
Tree Hill fans that are you know, intently, let's start.

Speaker 12 (43:12):
Let's start with I Know You Did Last Summer because
it's you know, it's you know, happening now.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, well, first of all, that just congratulations, a very
exciting movie to be a part of. I've highly anticipated.
We're very much obviously in the era of like let's
reboot some of our favorite shows and movies that we
we loved watching and this being a great one. So like,
just I mean, what did it mean to you to
just be asked to be a part of it? Were
you a fan of the movies back in the day,

(43:39):
and what did you want to bring to this experience
that you maybe took from being a fan in the past.

Speaker 12 (43:45):
Well, you know, obviously, I remember being seventeen when the
first movie came out, and I remember going to the
theaters and seeing it in theaters. It was you know,
Stara Jennifer of Hewitt and Freddy and Ryan were or
they were like the young new kids that were crushing
it and blowing up and their careers were happening, and

(44:06):
I was, while I might be around the same age
as them, I was a little behind them because I
didn't get to LA until a year later, and I
didn't even start. But they were the sort of people
I was watching a lot and going Okay, like this is,
you know, maybe something I could do. And I was
really just starting to, you know, dip my toe in acting.

(44:29):
And I moved to LA the next year, and when
I became start of paying more attention to writers and
directors and learning that Kevin Williamson wrote Scream and he
wrote This and he wrote the Faculty, I got really
interested in this sort of man who kind of single
handedly brought horror and the slasher the teen slasher flick

(44:52):
into the nineties or the late nineties or whatever you
want to call it, and he did it in this
really great way, and you know, and then time goes by,
you know, I don't know, twenty years goes by, and
I get a call and somebody says, at Original Films,
they're really interested in you for this role for I
know you did last summer, and I just go, what.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
You gotta be kidding?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Kay, so this is actually Austin Nick. Did you mean
to call me here?

Speaker 8 (45:19):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 12 (45:20):
And like, you know, I think being an actor is
really weird because we spend a lot of time. Everybody's
experience is different, but I spend a lot of time
auditioning and trying to chase down roles and and show
what I can do. And every once in a while, though,
the phone rings and somebody wants you. And it's weird
because sometimes I feel guilty.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah are you like well, like I mean, is this
going to be even any good? Like why I actual
audition or like they just want to give it to
me that like did everyone else say no?

Speaker 8 (45:52):
Or it's such a weird feeling.

Speaker 12 (45:54):
And then the message was, you know, the Jennifer the Jennifer,
the director wants to talk with you on Zoom. I
was like, great, okay, I talk with her on Zoom.
She's brilliant and bright and really cool. But I'm calling
my people going is this happening?

Speaker 8 (46:08):
Like what? And finally, you know, they started doing the
deal and it clothes.

Speaker 12 (46:13):
I was like, Okay, I'm getting on a plane to
Australia and I'm going to be a part of this
movie that was really big in my formative years when
I first started acting, and it was I told my
my friends and family. I was like, I'm pinging myself
this is this is such a cool thing to be
a part of. And I went down there, got to
go to Australia, which was a lifelong dream. Never never

(46:34):
been there, always wanted to go, and got to work
in Australia. And fast forward to last week. We're all
in la at the premiere. Everybody's on the red carpet
looking beautiful and you know, doing interviews and.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
Hugging and saying hi.

Speaker 12 (46:49):
And we go into the theater and people are screaming
at the screen and laughing and I mean, it was
a really fun night. And yeah, I'm still kind of
waking up from it and can't believe I'm a part
of it.

Speaker 8 (47:02):
Was It was a blast all the way around.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
That's awesome. What was the vibe when you got to
set and first started shooting the movie with everyone? Where
a lot of people just kind of nostalogically talking about,
you know, how they were when they first watched the
movie or what it meant to them and things like that.

Speaker 12 (47:16):
Absolutely, I think, you know, the the new cast, the
young guys and gals, they were in a different place
because they're the leads of the movie now, and they
were also I think some of them hadn't maybe possibly
hadn't even seen the original movie and then they went
and watched it. I think I think I heard some
story like that, but I got there later they had.

Speaker 8 (47:36):
Already started shooting.

Speaker 12 (47:38):
And it's always weird when you come in later and
you're not there for like the first week, because you're
kind of like, where do I like being.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
A mombshell on Love Island? You're like, I don't know,
you guys are.

Speaker 8 (47:51):
Yeah, You're like, okay, you guys are all going down
to dinner. Okay, well should I go out to dinner?

Speaker 12 (47:56):
I'll stand though, I don't know. So you're kind of
like figuring out your place. But then also, I'm in
Sydney and I'm going to the beach and it's summertime
in November, and.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
I'm like having the time of my life.

Speaker 12 (48:07):
So it was kind of you know, audit first, and
then I met everybody, and everybody was really nice and lovely.
And then I remember Freddie Prince Junior and Sera Michelle Geller,
who were the loveliest couple on earth.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
They had this dinner for everyone and we all had this.

Speaker 12 (48:20):
Great night, this big, fun Italian place, and it was
like it felt like when I first started making movies,
like the day after Tomorrow and you fly to a
place far away.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
You're staying in a hotel. It's like summer camp.

Speaker 12 (48:36):
You're meeting all these new fun people, and then you
go make this thing.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
It's I almost felt like I had started over and
it was the beginning again.

Speaker 12 (48:44):
It was.

Speaker 8 (48:46):
A new lease on life. It was very cool.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
What is it like working with this young the younger
new generation of actors, you know, Madam Klein and Tyrek
Rithers and Gabriette. What was all that like?

Speaker 12 (48:57):
You know, the really fun thing for me is perspective
and kind of looking at them.

Speaker 8 (49:04):
You know, the world is their oyster.

Speaker 12 (49:06):
They're young, and they're new and they're brushing it and
also kind of being able to sit back and go,
I'm really happy where I am. And you know, for
a long time, you always want to be, like, I
want to be the lead. I want to you know,
I want to give me the ball, I want to
be the point guard. I want to go, I want
to crush this. And I feel like I've gotten to
a place where I went, oh, it's really nice to

(49:28):
be pastor Judah and not work every day and watch
these kids go rush it and make this movie. And
at the same time they're lovely people, like I feel like,
and look, I don't nothing crazy happened to me. When
I was a young actor. It was all great. But
people are nicer now on set, and people take care
of each other more now on set. And I remember

(49:53):
when I first started out, like movie sets were a
little more militant, Like it was a little more like
be here on time, or you're fired, or hit your mark,
or we're gonna yell at you, or like it was
much much more militant, and sets now are much kinder.
I appreciate that and love that a lot. So, you know,
lots of things, lots of feelings, but ultimately really fun

(50:16):
to see these actors not necessarily at the beginning of it,
but really starting to feel their careers in themselves and
to see them kind of take off with this, and
I can't wait to.

Speaker 8 (50:29):
See where they go. They're a bunch of really nice people.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I'm curious, Austin, you're about my age coming up in Hollywood,
did you also like compete for crushes when it came
to Jennifer love Hewett or Sarah Michelle Geller, because like
they were definitely like the queens of my universe.

Speaker 12 (50:46):
Oh my god, Okay, so can hardly wait. Yes came
out when I was a senior in high school. Yes,
And I saw the trailer and I was like, oh
my god, it's the graduation night party.

Speaker 8 (50:58):
They're all all my friends.

Speaker 12 (51:00):
I bought twenty tickets to the to the movie, and
I told all my friends, we're going to see this movie.
Trust me, we're like graduating this year. I'm like, I'm
gonna start cry, you know, like I'm gonna miss you
guys so much. We gotta go see this movie. And
we all went and it was the best thing ever.
We all watched this movie. But I was so in
love with Jennifer of Hewett.

Speaker 8 (51:19):
And you know she was in that movie in particular.

Speaker 12 (51:22):
She was this untouchable high school queen, right, And yeah,
just to even touch a project like I know you
did last summer with Jennifer and and meet her and
talk to her a little bit, it's surreal. It's it's
it's surreal because like you said, it's that it's that

(51:44):
person from your your younger years that how could you
not have a crush.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Right, I mean, like I think every guy around that
age was obsessed with with those two. I love that
movie Ken Harley Waite where he's like he wears shirts sometimes.

Speaker 8 (52:01):
Great great movie.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
I see a lot of your favorite movies are from
like nineteen nineteen twenties, thirties, forties. Do you was there
anything that you maybe liked in two thousands.

Speaker 8 (52:13):
Or I know, why am I so into old stuff?
It's weird.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
It's like, my favorite movie is from nineteen fifty three.
I'm like, oh, relatable, totally.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I know.

Speaker 12 (52:23):
I literally tell people now and they glaze over, They're
like huh. Or I'll even think I tell someone a
fresh title and they go.

Speaker 8 (52:31):
That's from the eighties. Really, I'm like, it's not that old.
It's not that old.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Oh I just rewatched.

Speaker 8 (52:38):
Okay, recent two thousands movie was City of God. Made
in the two thousands, I think so City of.

Speaker 12 (52:45):
God Brazilian movie, one of the greatest films ever made.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Were you consider yourself a Cinophile?

Speaker 12 (52:51):
No, but I did not say that, But somebody said
that about me, and it's followed me around, and I
hate it because.

Speaker 8 (52:58):
I didn't never say it. But I movies.

Speaker 12 (53:02):
I love movies, and I did have these journals and
I was like, I love going and get you know,
collecting lobby cards and pasting them into my journal and
writing notes and stuff. So I love and I still
do love cinema, but I wouldn't call myself like some
sort of encyclopedic guy about it at all.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Getting into One Tree Hill of it all, You've also
directed some of like The Walking Dead. You're an actor
your director. How do you kind of like play both roles?
And how did you get into directing?

Speaker 12 (53:31):
So the first time I directed was on One Tree Hill, right,
And I did act and directed at the same time,
which was for the first time directing.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
It was it was kind of hard.

Speaker 12 (53:40):
Don't really want to do that very much, like what
you know, because directing is so all consuming and I
really want to be focused on directing. Having said that,
you know, it was kind of fun to do both.
It's fun, but I don't want to lose sight of
my day and what I have to accomplish because suddenly

(54:02):
I go, oh, crap, while you guys set up the lights,
I'm going to go get into wardrobe and hair and
makeup and learn my lines real quick. And then like
I'm just doing too many things and I don't know
if I'm going to be the greatest actor that I
can be because I've been so focused on directing.

Speaker 8 (54:16):
So it's not ideal but kind of awesome, kind of awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
So like the behind the scenes of that are is
you like on camera doing your scene? And then is
it like a you also yell cut and then like
go and watch playback or yes?

Speaker 8 (54:33):
Absolutely?

Speaker 12 (54:34):
And you know, the first time I did it, I
remember not really having time to watch playback very much
because it was kind of like TV's fast and you
got to go. And so I remember leaning on my
DP and my first dad and saying, look, do we
have it? You know, we did two takes, we did
three takes, do we have it? And I trusted them
and they'd say, yeah, it was great. So there were

(54:55):
very few times where I'd go watch playback just because
I'm in money. But I made my first movie last summer.
I've just finished it. It's called The Salamander King. And
there was a moment where we maybe didn't have a
lead actor. We got Ryan Hanson, who's fantastic in the movie,
but there was maybe a week where we didn't have him,

(55:15):
and my producer looked at me and she goes.

Speaker 8 (55:18):
Will you do it?

Speaker 12 (55:19):
And I was like, if I have to, there's no
I don't want to. But you know, we have the money,
we're scheduled to make this movie. We're slotted, we've got that,
we've hired the crew, we have all these other actors,
and you're suddenly confronted with can you do both? And
I looked at her straight in the eye and I said,

(55:40):
I can do it, but thank god I didn't have to.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Well, playing Julian Baker, obviously, that's like such a beloved
character on One Tree Hill. What was it like stepping
into an already established show with an already established.

Speaker 12 (55:52):
Cast, terrifying. Why yeah, like five, what I did?

Speaker 8 (55:57):
I did six?

Speaker 12 (55:58):
So I came into season six, so basically five and
a half seasons under their belt.

Speaker 8 (56:03):
You know, like people have known each other for years.

Speaker 12 (56:05):
There's politics, there's friendships, there's all this stuff, and you
just you get to a thing like that and it's
always kind of scary because you're just like, you don't
know anything. And I always said, just focus on your work.
Go to set focus on your work and be good
at your job. That's all that matters. But I so
quickly fell in love with North Carolina, and you know,

(56:28):
it's spent four years of my life there and it
became such a happy place for me. I mean I
I still dream about having a place there and retiring there.
I love the beaches there, I love the water, I
love the people, and it's it's fantastic. I mean this,
and it will get into this whenever you want. But

(56:49):
if we go and make more of the show, Tickled
Pink to go back?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Oh yeah, so yeah, speaking of One Tree Hill reboot,
can the fans look forward to possibly maybe.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
What are the phone calls?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Like?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
What does your email say? Do you want to read it?

Speaker 8 (57:07):
Email?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
The emails about the reboot of Andre.

Speaker 12 (57:13):
Okay, So I mean I'm not really I'm not spearheading
in this at all. You know, Sophia and Hillary and
Daniel and I think a lot of a lot of
the gals the original you know, core cast really have
been digging into this for a long time and they
I think they did it in a really smart way.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
And Becky Hartman.

Speaker 12 (57:35):
Edwards is the showrunner and the woman who's writing it,
and I met her and she's fantastic and we had
like a coffee and talk. And I can't speak for everyone,
but I think, you know, a huge portion of the
cast wants to do it, and it feels real. There's
no green light, but I think they're working on scripts
and taking notes and tweaking things, and it feels feels

(57:57):
like it could happen. I wish I had, like, you know,
I wish I could say, but I'm not the guy
to say, and but I will say that, you know,
it feels very positive.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
What I always like to ask, what is your gut?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Tell you Austin in terms of like.

Speaker 12 (58:14):
When you say gut, I immediately say it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Okay, So would you be most excited to work with again.

Speaker 8 (58:21):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 12 (58:22):
You know obviously, you know my my my scene partner,
day and day out with Sophia.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
She was fantastic to work with, So that's going to
be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
We got our hair done at the same salon beside
each other the other day.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
Oh nice, nice, She's fantastic, fantastic. But I will say
I think it.

Speaker 12 (58:37):
Would be really fun to work with Hillary again because
Hillary left the show and I worked with her in
the very beginning, and then she left and we remain friends,
and then her husband killed me and the Walking Dead
and you know, we had all this fun crossover and
hang time. So I think it would be really fun
to work with her again because we didn't get to

(58:57):
do that much together.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Oh, that would be really all. It's such a great
it was such a great cast. It was such a
great show. Did you end up like watching I mean,
do you watch your work back?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Are you that type of actor? Are you the kind
of the one that's like, I can't I don't want
to see it.

Speaker 12 (59:11):
In the early days, I had to watch because I
was bad and I was trying to learn how to
be better.

Speaker 8 (59:19):
So no, really, I would like watch stuff and I'd be.

Speaker 12 (59:21):
Like, oh, that was really stupid. Don't ever do that again.
I found it to be a tool to get better.
And then and then it changed over the years. And
I always thought actors just said they don't watch their
movies were full of shit. I was like, you're lying.
You're lying, Johnny Depth, You're lying. But now that so
many years have gone by, I understand it. And there's

(59:42):
been a few things I've not watched. I still do watch,
I'd say most of the time, but there have been
some things that I didn't even bother watching. But there
is a freedom. There's a freedom in not watching yourself,
because watching yourself can make you edit yourself, and it
can make you Actors often want to be cool, which

(01:00:05):
is dead, Okay, Trying to be cool and look good
is the worst thing you can do as an actor.
So if you can look bad, if you can be vulnerable,
if you can make a fool of yourself, that's where
the good stuff is.

Speaker 8 (01:00:21):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Julian and Bake and Brooks kids, Davis and Jude would
be like fourteen if we were to do a reboot, right,
Oh wow, yeah, Like, who do you feel like should
play them? They're your kids, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
I mean, I gotta I don't know if I know
that very many.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, but they're going to be great.

Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
They better be great, right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Have you ever had a dream about being one of
your characters you played like in the universe and that
you played it.

Speaker 12 (01:00:51):
I don't think so, that's a great question, though it
feels like I should have, but that nothing jumps to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
No, nothing from like I feel like being in like
the Walking Dead world would just like, oh, all of.

Speaker 12 (01:01:04):
Your you know what now that you mentioned like something
like that that's like a post apocalyptic maybe something like
that has Yeah, but I would need to think about
it and come back to you with a great story
because nothing jumps out Before.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
We let you go, Austin, tell us a little bit
more about The Salamander King and the movie you just
talked about you were directing that's coming out soon.

Speaker 12 (01:01:24):
We are making a deal or we're about to make
a deal with a distributor, so it's a little early.
But let me tell you about. It's called The Salamander King.
It's about a rundown public golf course in Austin, Texas.
It's an underdog sports comedy and It's about all the
funny people that work at this public golf course and
they find out that it's under threat from big special

(01:01:45):
interests like big tech. They want to bulldoze the course
and build a big tech campus. So it's all about
their fight to save the course. And it's full of
love and humor, and I think people love the characters
and I'm so so proud of it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
You know, I've directed some TV, but it's my first movie.
And you know, we did it.

Speaker 12 (01:02:04):
We bootstrapped the thing and raised the money ourselves and
did it small, and you know, friends came and worked
for nothing, and we cannot wait to get it out
to you. We think it's going to be out in
the beginning of twenty twenty six, but you know, I'll
let people know as soon as I know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
On my on my it's the way you describe it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
It's kind of giving like almost like a Caddyshack kind
of vibe feel to it.

Speaker 12 (01:02:27):
Or you know, yeah, yeah, I mean, we have a
bunch of kind of comps, but we really when we talk,
we talk about Caddyshack, and we talk about a more
grounded version of Dodgeball, like a really an indie grounded
real dodgeball, save you know, save the rec center, save
the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
That sounds great, man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
How long did how long were you filming for?

Speaker 12 (01:02:49):
We shot it in nineteen days, and I got to
be honest, like usually nineteen day shoots.

Speaker 8 (01:02:55):
Stuff in that range is really really hard.

Speaker 12 (01:02:57):
And we we had two camera we had a crack team,
and we finished early on on many days, and we
got everything we needed. And for an India, it went
really smoothly and really well and I couldn't have I
couldn't be happier.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Uh, we're uh, we definitely look forward to that and
when it actually comes out, when we have a release day,
please come back on, let's talk more about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
That would be great to love you just to piggyback
off that. So, my dad was a golf pro like
my whole life, he like moved my family around like
you know, golfing and chasing this golf dream. And then
once he retired from golf, he started like taking over
golf courses and like making them better, like getting these
like rundown golf courses and he would just like fix
up the greens and he would do all this stuff.

(01:03:41):
So this is like love it. This feels like such
a blast of like, oh well.

Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
I'm dying for him to see it. And let me
tell you one more thing.

Speaker 12 (01:03:49):
Willie Nelson has this golf course outside of Austin called
Willie's Cut and Putt, And we couldn't have made this
movie without this course. It's Oh, the fair way are dirt,
but the tea boxes and the greens are beautiful, so
you you have a great t shot and then you
get an AstroTurf Matt, and you hit off the fairway
to his beautiful green. So they save a bunch of money.

(01:04:10):
But like, people are on golf courts smoking weed and
like it is the craziest, coolest.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Place, your typical country club, and.

Speaker 8 (01:04:19):
People don't know about it. And it just was the
perfect place for our movie. So your dad's gonna love this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I'm so excited to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Him about it. Austin.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Thanks so much for your time, man, it's been so
much fun. Congratulations again, and I know what you did
last summer. Excited to see Salamander King and just great
chatting with you, buddy. And also call one tree of
Hell sooner than later, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:04:40):
Oh yeah, well, I'll let you guys know as soon
as I know something more and thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah, I appreciate talk to you later.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Honestly, such a like nostalgic feeling seeing Julian Baker like
in front of me like that was a very it
was warm and fuzzy feeling, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Highlights you know after tomorrow? Tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah, well up next, the moment many of you have
been waiting for.

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Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
I love a clap.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Love a clap sometimes when we are like sinking with
other people and zoom like, can you clap for this?

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
One?

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Two, three? And they're like, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
A lot of the Little Violin cast did that, and
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
What, it's great to have. They live for the applause.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
They zoo.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
The gay community is reeling right now that you want
to know why because Lady Gagad did applause at the
Mayhem Ball and she has an on applause or really
anything from Aura. This is big gay. Like we've been saying, Goga,
we need art pop and she's given us pop.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
She heard what a day, Matt, Welcome to the show man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
I'm so happy to be here. The way you guys,
your conversation with Joe Kim one for the books it
let's go see that. Listen. Do you know what though,
Like I think in that situation.

Speaker 9 (01:08:34):
We all needed a little bit of folding.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yes, I got a message from Shannon after and it
was like, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Let me tell you, Like being on the inside, well,
I know you all know, but like sometimes it's like
when you know so much more than everyone else knows,
you just gonna sit there and smile, love you all.
But getting a call from him while he was not
to bring it up again, but like like getting a
call from him when it was happening, I'm gonna be like,
let me tell you something. I don't have context, and

(01:09:05):
I don't think I ever can get context because it's
a bunch of unreliable narrators here. But like, God bless everyone,
and the show was great. I don't think they got
really over it, those two. I don't think that they will.
I don't see a friendship in their future.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, I don't see forgiveness.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
No, no one really knows what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I mean, oh for sure. I mean I know, I know,
like Joel's version, I haven't been texting with Shannon Badoor
about it, you know what I mean. Shannon really didn't
tell us her version either.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
I mean her version is like I don't know where
this is coming from like I you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Of course, I'll say is Joel's one of my best
friends for years, and Shannon has only ever been so
sweet to me. So I root for everybody. That's how
That's how we feel. How I feel about everyone in
Hollywood rooting for them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
All the congratulations on everything that you have going on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Last night was a big night for you guys. It
was crazy. It's crazy to be like sitting on it now,
like because it's like now we have it in the
can and I know like how good it is, and
so I'm just like so excited for everyone to see it.
We really fooled them into letting us do it. That's
the only way, you guys. The l c A is

(01:10:25):
the LCC Lost Culture Racial Culture Awards l c c A. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I have a hard time saying last Culture and can't
say something.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
So does my dad. He calls it. He literally says
lost Costa Rica. I feel your dad, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
The Costa Rica Awards amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I sad five times in five different ways.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
You know. The only thing that drives me nuts is
when people say like like an ethnic on it. I'm like,
I promised you it's like fashionistas or maxinist, does that
is not anything cultural appropriation? I'm like, no, it's stupid.
Like understand.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
That was me when I was twenty one and I
went to Mexico for the first time not speaking any Spanish.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Yeah, I would say anything in a really bad accent.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
They the service would look at me and like, yeah, yeah,
why are you speaking slower and rolling your rs is
if that's Spanish?

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Well remember and like in high school Spanish they would
tell you. They they'd be like, you know, do roll
the rs like do it? Attempt to say it like
it said like you know, but then you do feel crazy. Yeah,
Petro is like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
And is the response in English though, like when people
are trying.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
To speak Spanish and then they're like do you want
a pepsi or not?

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Giving what house wife does that all the time?

Speaker 11 (01:11:53):
International you never know what's coming out, like it could
be anything that flies out of that anything but Connecticut right,
well one of my favorite number one, like actually this
is a good memory.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Like me Joel Kimbooster and Bowen Yang were shooting the
movie Fire Island and we were on Fire Island for
like probably like two weeks to shoot all the exteriors
and like everything else was a set like in that movie,
but the outside stuff was really in the pines, and
we had like a no budget for that movie, and
we're having a really bad day, like we had to

(01:12:29):
like we were gonna shoot this scene on the dock,
and like the tides for the one time that summer,
decided to completely overwhelm the dock. Like everyone that was
in the pines, all the gay guys were mad at
us because we were like shooting and they're like, we're
trying to have our fucking vacation, Like what the hell.
We're like, well, we promised you'll be proud of us
later the movie is good, but they were so mad.

(01:12:49):
And I remember like we woke up in the morning
one day and we had all had like a fight
the night before. Like the cast got into it because
this is a bunch of gay guys together for like
six weeks doing this like Frot movie about the Fire
Island experience, and me, Bowen and Joel got together in
the morning we were like, listen, we are family.

Speaker 9 (01:13:05):
We're going to make it through.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
And we watched an episode of Real House and it
was the episode where Dee said, I don't understand it
in four different languages. She was ourself. I speak four
different languages and I don't understand what you're saying in
any one of them. And then they and she was
literally like she said it for different languages, and I

(01:13:26):
think we laughed for sixty six minutes. It was like
hardcore comedy. Oh we loved, but it was so can
she can?

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
She brought She honestly brought the three of you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
She brought us back together. She brought us back together. Healing. Yeah,
and now Hollywood history.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
But serious, how did the the l c as really
come together?

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Else I'll change it to what you say, Nick, It
says l C A l C. That's a type culture
Culture Awards. You set me up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 8 (01:14:04):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Well yeah, if I look at that, I apologize.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Well, so it was lcca's Now it's hashtag the Culture
Awards twenty twenty five because Bravos like, we really have
to make it clear for people what it is. And
I'm like, okay, we'll meet in the middle. So maybe
it's what you're cultures. It came about as a joke
a bit like it was like everything Bowen and I do,
like kind of everything I do. It was like, oh,
that's a funny, stupid joke, and then it becomes a

(01:14:32):
thing just because the way that Bowen and I kind
of operate is it's like we try to make each
other laugh, and if we do, it's probably a thing
even for us. So then we just kind of went
on and on. I think we literally had nothing to
say about pop culture one week, like it was like
a dry week, and I was like, you know, what
will be stupid if we just like announced categories that

(01:14:54):
we made up and said nominees and like never did it,
but like said we were going to do it a
awards but then like so we we literally did an
episode which was like these are the nominees for the
Lost Cultures those Culture Awards because we're both like obsessed
with awards. We think they're so funny slash stupid, slash
cool whatever. We grew up as like awards kids. And

(01:15:15):
then our fans were like, well, when really is the
ceremony and then we were like we have to cancel
them on the pod like it's gonna be so funny.
So we got on We're like they're canceled. We're so sorry.
We had it. We've actually had a creative differences and
we can't do it. So that was the bit. And
then Lincoln Center was doing like a summer concert series,

(01:15:35):
like it's like a summer in the city thing, and
they were like, we have a spot for you guys.
It's like it's a free thing. Your fans can come,
like it's first come, first serve, like you know, usually
like four hundred and five hundred people will show up
and someone will just do whatever it is, like comedy whatever.
So we're like, let's do the awards. Let's literally do

(01:15:55):
the awards as if it was, you know, a thing.
Producer Lauren Mendel has worked on so many of these
types of shows. She's a friend of our. She was
a writer's assistant in SNL, so she knows Bowen everyone,
all of our friends, et cetera. And we produced it
like the real thing, and like three thousand of our
podcast listeners showed up. So suddenly it was a thing.

(01:16:19):
And that was four years ago. It grew every year
until people were like, you should try to sell it
to someone, and I'm like, okay, here we go. Hit
the pitch, you know, grind. Yeah, one place wanted it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Peacock Slash, the only place you needed to be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Well, I guess there's like so much goodwill there because
Bowen you know what I mean, because of he's obviously
like you know, he's bowing and the star of SNL,
and so I think that whenever like he's bringing in
something like okay, let's at least seriously consider it, because
no one else did. They were like, yeah, thanks, we
don't get it at all. But now we did it,

(01:17:00):
and it's everywhere. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good.
It's everyone from Jeff Goldbloom to Page disor bro.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Yeah. The turnout was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Not normal, Yeah, not normally yes. The mean it felt
more into like SNL fifty Yeah, like which I got
to go to earlier in the year because I did
the red carpet and stuff. They were that was very
cool of them to ask me to do that. And
just being there that night, and you know, Bowen Yang

(01:17:29):
is obviously my best friend now going over I don't know,
like like fourteen years and we went to college together,
and to see him up there with these legends and
just be a part of that, it felt more like
that than it did anything else because I'm looking out
the crazy part is like, you know, you're producing and
hosting the award show and you go out and you

(01:17:49):
see like the seat cards. You know, it's like this
all the celebrity they're they're headshots on the seat cards
and I'm looking at it and I'm like, this is
the stupidest shit I've ever seen. It was like literally
the entire cast of the Salt Lake Housewife sitting behind
Jamie Lee. It was absurd.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Well, you know what, people just like I want to
have fun with it, and it's the worst show. And
I think some of the you know, the legacy ones
have got a little stuffy or problematic or just all
of the above.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
It's time to flatten it. I think, you know what
I mean. I feel like people and it's weird, Like
I do think like what you're seeing like across the
board is people being like, no, we don't want to
do things the way they used to be or have
always done. Like it's not working for us, you know
what I mean. You see it in politics, you see
it in entertainment, you see it everywhere. It's just like

(01:18:42):
people being like, I'm sorry, but you don't make the
decisions for us anymore about what's what's like the mainstream
thing we're supposed to be watching, doing, or how we
consume our content, right exactly. I mean what was wild
was you know, Jake Shane was in the show who
obviously popped off so on his own like on the
internet and stuff. And then you also have like, you know,

(01:19:03):
someone like Sarah Michelle Geller in the show who in
the nineties was like monoculture and you know what I mean.
So it's it's so many of these different things that
are equally important. And I think that one thing that
our podcast does is it treats like, I guess, high
and low culture the Saint.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
I was just about to ask you that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
So that's like, that's I think that we can all
we can all benefit from it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Because I feel like I've heard the you know, kind
of gripe from some of these maybe a list celebrities
kind of being like what are these influencers doing at
this event or this award show or this, and so
it's like to have everyone there and everyone respect everyone
for what they do is really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
I Mean I've always thought the funniest thing in the
world to me is people who take themselves super seriously. Yeah,
I'm like that is so cute. Like when you come
in and I think and like, you guys probably know
because you guys have now been around. Like when the
more you get in the entertainment industry, the more you

(01:20:08):
realize people don't necessarily have that good of a sense
of humor about themselves, especially when it comes to like
being given accolades or you know, like award show stuff.
Like when I was growing up, like I just thought, oh,
the Oscars, the Emmys, of course, like you want one
if you want to be in the entertainment industry, but

(01:20:28):
you do at a certain point, like it is just
an honor to be nominated. Just fun, like it's a show. Nah,
people are so intense about it. So if this can
help people be like listen, let's lower the stakes, because
that's my whole thing across the board is like let's
we need to have fun. Yeah, we need to lower this.
You can't lose sight of the fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
What are some of your categories?

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
It's like the best Batman Woman, like many great speeches
that we can look forward to, you know what. It's
like I can't do it, but like if you look
on the internet and see who was on the carpet,
like those are clues as to who might be giving speeches.
There are some moments. Two things I can say is

(01:21:11):
we gave Lifetime Achievement Award tributes to Keenan Thompson and
Alison Janny and those were like, I'm really looking forward
to people seeing those. Like across the board. The musical
performances were amazing. We had everyone from like Ben Platt,
like Jensen McCrae, you know what I mean. So it
covered a spectrum.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
So like, why what was the reasoning for not inviting
Nick and I everyone?

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I actually even said, I was like, we need we
probably need. You guys weren't invited. No, that's actually crazy.
In fairness, we were booking busy last night.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Well that makes me feel bad, but we would definitely
would have rather gone to yours.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
You know it, LI truly first or second row seats
at the show next year, do it And if they.

Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
Can't go, producers are way more.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Than we by the way to cover it, This is
Mary and we met. She is your biggest fan and
would quit this job to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Work for you.

Speaker 6 (01:22:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Can I tell you, though I love the HQ, this
is a setup because I mean, you guys are seeing
what's going on in here, which is stunning. But there's
a whole HQ out there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Yes it's our HQ, and no one's sleeping with each other,
you know what, unlike our unlike our astronomer And can you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Invite them next year? Can we make an award for that?
Anyone can have a scene like that. Trust me, anything
is in play when I when I'm telling you, like
what we got away with, anything is oh yeah, they
could have done anything else and it would have been
better than that reaction. You know what's crazy is and
this is another thing. It's like you really get into

(01:22:51):
the minds of publicists and what they think is the
good idea like booking this show and dealing with like
Town's publicists. It's like a public this advised you. We're
talking obviously about the CEO that the affair was reveal.
He either popped off by himself or worse, a publicist
advised him to like blame.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Shutting down. It's a shame that a private moment was
made public by It's like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
It was that you had an affair.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
You took your private affair to a public place.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Also, it's like you clearly have coin, you have great
seats you are watching the kiss cam happen and embracing
your you're you're on the butt of someone who you
shouldn't be a department.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
And then and then the woman that the you know,
the the woman who was like blush in the face
of the riot, was like she was the support, like
she was also in HR.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
So the whole HR departments in on this affair.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
I'm not taking anything HR says to me. Ever, again,
you know what's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
You you literally saw all the fear responses. You saw
a flight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Stop dropping, you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Saw you saw him hit the ground, and probably like
already you saw her pure devastation, and you saw just
his mom on the side like for rozen, like, well, honestly,
she it's a it's a I would say it's net
positive for her. Yes, my girl on the right is

(01:24:33):
the real star.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
No, she stopped dropped it. I mean no, he stopped
dropped and rolled and she was just like, we're gonna burn.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
We don't think they're gonna come on the show, but
we have followed them on LinkedIn and sentiment.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
Did they reactivate they should They deactivated their LinkedIn because
they got scared. That's my favorite she did his activation
of LinkedIn.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
His wife did remove his last name from her Facebook page,
and she's.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Have you seen a picture? What see? That's the thing is,
it's like it's and that's that's what It's never about
any of that. It's just one year that went that
type of guy like pushing to see what you can
get away with, and it's so gross. And then and
then for the audacity to be like fuck cold, like
you were just vibing to fix you you know what

(01:25:20):
I'm saying, You were just absolutely dropping it to clocks
and now you're like, fuck seconds ago, and now it's
red unbelievable. But and also the fact that like it's
just I always say current events are happening as we speak,
like the fact that that was happening at the same
time as them like canceling Colbert. Yeah, like it's so fucked.

(01:25:45):
And I found out on the red carpet at the
Cultural Awards. They're like, so your reaction we obviously you
know you react to pop culture. Your reaction to Colbert
being canceled. I'm like, what I was, like, you need
even Colbert, just the whole la all late night. Yeah,
it was the Late Show in general, yes, it's a
that was a dark day.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
What do you what do you think that means for
late night in general? Do you think this is like
the first domino?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
I think that I don't put it past any like
corporate entity at this point to just do what's best
for their bottom line. But it's so scary.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
And it's also just like, you know what you and
Bowen are doing what we do here, It's just like
I think we're creating shows that kind of have a
similar vibe, but it's it's on demand kind of whenever
you want to, and each person can kind of find
their their home right like their place they want to
hang out with their friends, and it's like like we

(01:26:41):
have such like a lonely world that I think when
people are tuning in to you guys, they're hanging out
with their friends.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
When they tune into this show, it's the same vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
And I think that was just it's a different vibe
than late night television that that kind of, like you said,
like hasn't really kept up with the times.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
And I'm just wondering if it's hard to like it's
hard to do that when people can get the same
kind of emotional like little serotonin boost that they would
have ordinarily gotten from. Like it's like the death of monoculture,
you know what I mean. Like it's you don't have
to go to the cinema anymore to see really quality,

(01:27:19):
high grade stuff because you can watch it on TV.
It is on if you're looking for something just to
snack on, entertainment wise, it is on your phone. It's
just kind of a harsh reality of where the where
the industry has gone. And I just hope that there
can be some way to maintain both because late night

(01:27:40):
is it's important, you know what I mean. It is
American culture too, you know, it's also British culture. I
mean they've always done it the best. But the late
show ending is like that's that's that's that's beyond. I
was always I was always a late show guy. Was
it Letterman? Was it Letterman defined what it was to

(01:28:01):
make that comedy forward? Yes, yes, always, always, And now
you know what's funny is like remember a few years
ago Quibbi, Yeah, three days. Yeah, I had a show
on Quibi that that was like one of the launch
of it. It was called game show and it was
called spelled g A Y M E show. It was.

(01:28:23):
We took two straight men and we put them to
the test emotional, physical, spiritual, and like artistic challenges to
see which one could be named honorarily gay as fucking
rain as Queen of the Straits. You would have been
an amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
My baby would have won first.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
I really want to say. I mean I've been, I've been.
You are my favorite bachelor, yes, without a doubt. And listen,
I I was in Bachelor Nation for like a three
year period, which was like the you through Like I
guess it was like you through ari As he lost me,
but I watched you, and then I loved Rachel and

(01:29:04):
then like you know, through that whole area. And then
I was like ari Lion like Junior doing that to
her on television. I was like, I can't be a.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Part of this, Like why can't we just talk about it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
She was just like, are you actually doing this to
be on television? And the answer was a hard yeah,
he's there.

Speaker 8 (01:29:19):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Yeah. Also like the karma that he got on Traders,
just but regardless, like yeah, I mean, it's all just
collapsing in on itself, you know what I'm saying. Traders,
They asked, I just I'm not I have respect for you, dude.
I'm I'm not comfortable allowing them to edit me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
I know it's I mean, did they ask you said no,
I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
I guess couldn't. I couldn't make it work with I think,
well I was busy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Sure, which is like, you know, always the good thing.
But like, I think you'd be great. I think you
do you consider yourself to be perceptive? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Yeah, it's like, as.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
You would be the faithful, I would. I would want
to be a faithful. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
And then I would figure out who the Traders are
and be their best friend.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Well yeah, to the end. See, isn't it funny? Like
whenever I'm watching Survivor, I'm like, oh, well, I would
just play amazing social.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
I would be incredible because faster than them. Yeah, i'd find.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
The Yeah, the idol, the idol. Oh he's not he's
not diving off that huge board correctly. I would do
it better. I would run up a ramp and dive
into the ocean way better than absolutely can't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Traders feels like one of the few shows where like
I don't feel like they really are fucking with people's
Edits all that much.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
Well, you know, I actually I was talking to Dylan.
Dylan was at the Ron was at the show last night.
So he's, by the way, the best, just the best, vine,
hottest guy. It's a total ten. And like, I think
you're just gonna keep going because what's not to love.
But we were at we were actually in Can together

(01:31:11):
last month for the Can Lion. You know, crazy, No
you should have. That would have been so fun. But
like it was, like I told him, I was like,
you know, they they had reached out to Bowen and
I initially about season three or something two or three,
the one Koshelle was on, and we were like, I

(01:31:34):
was like, I just don't. I don't know if I
can like say yes because I know the villain edit
I would get I'm too easy to cut into, Like
they don't snark is not your friend in reality? No,
And that's the thing. It's just like sarcasm and I
will just give them so many clips that they can
put together to be like this bitch. And also I

(01:31:57):
know what would have happened had they put Bowen and
I on the same season, which is under one of
us would have been a trader and one of us
would have been faithful and.

Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
Like that would have gotten so sad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
I mean, so I think we will just continue to
be fans.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Okay, wait, what are your thoughts on Meredith Marks being
a DJ?

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
So she was our DJ last night? Well, less of
my best friend is here and like she's literally in
the corner screaming because you asked that question. She was
our DJ last night? What are my thoughts on her
being a DJ? I mean, I think to infinity and beyond.

(01:32:35):
I think I think let's go, what do.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
You feel like it's doing for her hearing?

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
Wow? I hadn't considered her hearing. Well you know, so wait,
correct me if I'm wrong. It's both her ears, right,
I believe she has both hearing.

Speaker 6 (01:32:51):
She has hearing days because with it and the girl
she was like we're.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
Talking about I think I think you know what it is.
Maybe because she can control all the aspects of the volume.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
We're okay, Okay, was it like really quiet last night?

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
It was everyone like, I mean, she was definitely more
a DJ and name only, but she I mean, the
one of the funniest moments was again not spoiling. But
we're off to the side me by Wing and Andy
Cohen and and he just looks up and he's like,
is that Meredith in like the balcony in front of
a DJ thing. I was like, yeah, it's the Cultural Awards.

(01:33:31):
We put Meredith in the GJ both sure, that's sort
of what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Maybe, and he was like a little jealous.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
I think, you know, he was, well, you'll see what
what happens at the top of the show. But my
thoughts are my thoughts are whatever Meredith Marks wants to pursue,
she should pursue.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Have you seen her on Next Gen at all?

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Okay, so I know I can't really do Next Gen
because I I and I'm on public about this and
have been for a while. I have an hour energy
to the judicces. I can't do it. Like, I'm not do.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
You like break out hives?

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
No, it's what it is is I'm just like, ugh,
like I just like it just feels it feels like
sweaty to me, you know what I mean. It's kind
of just like it's just it's not I miss some
more authenticity in it. Like it's crazy that everyone always
thinks that Melissa and Joe are the ones like putting
it on because I think it's the opposite. I find

(01:34:28):
it to be the opposite. And I'd rather watch some
watch their life than the Judece's life. That's like my
my Bravo hot take that I'll I'll still the hell
I'll still die on is. I think if you love Teresa,
you'll love Teresa on her own show, you know what
I mean? Like, I think the Judics should be a

(01:34:49):
thing new Jersey Housewives. It's a shame that we can't
have it anymore because and it is her not playing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
BALLA won't let it happen, No, and so we'll move
on either.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
So it's like we're doing the same storyline for seven years.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Yeah right, And I'm not saying like kick them off television.
I get like, I like I'm an og Jersey fan,
like I root for Teresa. I just can't watch her
on this ensemble and with with Gia. I just feel
like when she got old enough to sort of become

(01:35:25):
a player on Jersey, I was like, this doesn't feel
right to me, and so I'm not like following her.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
It was always weird to have like all of the
women at a dinner table, and also Gia.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
It was like right, I was like, I was like
and it felt manipulative, you know what I mean. I
was like, because because Teresa, the whole thing is always like,
you can't talk to my daughter, you can't talk about
my daughter, don't do that. It's like, yeah, but you're
she's very willingly a participant in this and clearly a
paid in some way. If you're in a confessional and
a full beat, you know what I mean, Like, you

(01:35:57):
can't then be like she's not in play, like she's
a chessboard, she's the rook, you know what I mean.
Like it's like, my girl's the rook and a powerful
piece on the board, Like because when Gia comes in
and is like yelling, what are Melissa and Joe's supposed
to do? So that felt to me manipulative.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
What do you think Jenshaw and Elizabeth Holmes talk about
in Prison World Domination? I have to I got Elizabeth's like,
can I got a project for you? Why don't you
get down the ground up?

Speaker 9 (01:36:25):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Who's pitching who? Actually? I think it depends on the topic.
I think if it's I think it's it's the world
of tech. Okay. Maybe they're trading, maybe maybe they're learning
from each other. You know what, I mean maybe gen
Shaw is on the ground, like all right, but I
I have a way to draw blood and create and
clone people. She's like, I have the perfect demographic we
can go after. You're not going to believe what these

(01:36:49):
people believe.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Do you think they have nicknames for each other?

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
Oh my god, I hope they just call each other
like Shaw and Homes or like can't wait to find out. Like,
by the way, it is like when we when people
do awful, awful things. Obviously, like yeah, you go to prison,
but like, god, you see those photos of them, It's
like looks sad, it kind of looks fun.

Speaker 11 (01:37:11):
But I'm running the track was a track star?

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
What you're run? I was actually like middle distance to distance?
What was your event? Eight hundred and four hundred? So
I was in the four by four and I did
the eight, but my thing was the sixteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Okay, Nick was the state champion of Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
You're fucking kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
She likes to tell people that you were what was
what was?

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
What were your times? One fifty one, one fifty one,
eight hundred, dude, that's crazy, forty seven and then four
hundred what Yeah, I ran a fifty three and thought
I was a king. That was my first lap of
the eight hundred. Yeah, what you're fast? I was. My
mile time was four thirty six, and I thought he's

(01:37:56):
one of the rare people to not be like, yeah,
I ran a four sixteen one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Nick tries to race like like thirteen year olds to
see if he's still cottage that once.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
So do you still tear it up on the track.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Like nah, no, No, we went into your like high
school track and what what did you run.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
Three summers ago? I ran out five thirty mile as
of like a two years ago, year and a half ago.
I'm like, more on my fitness shit because I'm thirty
five now. So I started with a personal trainer like
last year. And he goes, yeah, dude, it's really great
that you get in here now because thirty five that's
when your metabolism is never the same, and by forty
you actually like have no chance if you want to start.

(01:38:37):
And I was just like, uh a paralyzed. I'm like
fresh thirty five, and I'm like, well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Was pretty much the same most of your adulthood.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Well, as a result of the last month during the
Culture Awards, literally I get on this. I got on
this I was at one. I was at one of
those hotels in downtown LA where they have this scale.
I was, let's just see, I've been stressed out, not eating.
I've lost fourteen pounds in the past like six weeks
because of like stress. Some clocking in at one sixty
six today. But I'm usually around like a one e snake. Yeah,

(01:39:10):
but right now it's it's cuckoo. But like you're gonna
be fine when you turn for me. See, I'll be
all right. But I last year I became like a
Barry's boot Camp addict and like a in like a
not good way because because it's hard. Do you do berries?
Did ones? Great workout? I see? I need someone to
like be like you need to do this this way

(01:39:31):
to this song in this lighting.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
That's why I'm an official Henery. Like I get get excited.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
See there we go. That's what I'm saying. It's like
it's like what they'll whip out sometimes in the playlist.
I'm like what they're on the treadmill. You look in
the mirror and you're just like, no, shout out to
Kyle k and like in he's in the studio city
most of the time now, but he's become a friend.
He's like an iconic Berris trainer. Sometimes he'll play a
song and I'll literally just stop. I'll just get on

(01:40:00):
the sides and I'll stop, and I'll just look at
him like you're a bitch, You're a diabolical genius. Like
what just gets whipped out like a Booty Delicious remix
that like should never exist because it's gonna make people
too happy, you know what I mean, like too much.
But the thing about that is it's like if I
was doing it six times a week, Jesus, which is

(01:40:22):
fucking's stupid. Because I reconnected with my cardio, you know
what I mean, Like that went away in my twenties.
Then I was like doing berries and like reconnecting with
like running, and I was like, oh I love this.
I'm good at this. But the thing is like when
you're on the treadmill, off the treadmill on the floor,
back back back back, You're just like you're gonna you
can hurt yourself if you push it body. Yeah. So

(01:40:44):
now I got a trainer and it's it's like changed
my whole Like yeah, like the way that I like
feel after the workouts so that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
As much as I love this conversation, do you.

Speaker 9 (01:40:59):
Cut?

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Do you think Padre started the rumor about Angela and
Charles Oakley?

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
See y'all see. You know what's funny is it's like
I get in so much like online for just saying
the truth, which is, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
You don't think she's learned her lesson?

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
You know what? She was a lesson. She was on
the View the other day being pretty convincing that she didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:41:28):
She also said she was running for president.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
I did see that, she said, did you see that's
what she said? Well, what fa Parks is truly passionate about.
It's politics round. I was like I was first of all,
when Woopy Goldberg said please welcome Phaedra Parks, I was like,
what this is the fattening of culture that week?

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
I was like, okay. So then she comes out driving conversation,
She's like, I think definitely I won't run for office,
and I was like, you made up that someone tried
to someone else on television. So I don't know nowadays
who the I don't know? I think that's what I'm saying.
So it's just like you never know. But like, I mean,

(01:42:11):
I wouldn't put anything past her. I mean, she's incredibly
powerful personality.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
What about Brady not coming to the reunion, Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Feels right because it's like it's like, what do you
what are you gonna say?

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
You know, like at that point, it's like that the
whole thing was really ugly. It was I gotta say
with Housewives, I need to read saying something in four languages.
I don't need felony crimes, like unless it's Salt Lake City,
which is essentially like a true crime documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Yeah, like, I don't need the four episodes. Later, she
like and it wasn't even me. It was like, whoa wait,
does that get.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
More like it's it's no, it's Na's kind of I mean,
I think that they've done the right thing by bringing
back Phedra if Candy is not going to be there,
and Porsche obviously is one of the greats. I think
when is good, she is the best. I think she's
gonna crush on Traders period. Yeah, well if nothing and
you know who else, I'm so excited to back on

(01:43:19):
the TV screens. Canda Stiller basset, Canda Stiller bass that's
my that's my girl, Like I think she's gonna tear
or be so wrong every time, you know, I literally
but but but she's so good on TV. I think

(01:43:39):
they made a mistake on Potomac. I really do. But
you know whatever, Giselle's running the show over there, So
as long as they keep letting Jiselle produce that show,
it's gonna.

Speaker 9 (01:43:49):
Be what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
What is your take on like bloggers in the real
house what I mean, obviously it's always been around. You
feel like it's essential for the plot or do you
don't like it?

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
I want I want to see them, Like I was
talking to this out Salt Lake City housewives last night
and one of them I won't say which did spoil
for me something that happens. And I'm like, see, this
is why you guys are the best is because they're
they're making fun of each other and picking on each
other for like personal, little stupid things. It's like, you

(01:44:18):
forget that show started with Mary m Cosby telling Genshaw,
you smell like hospital. This is what we need more,
we need way more. You smell like hospital and way less.
I'm not talking to her because I'm the og and
this like, you know, zoomed out ego bullshit, because you know,

(01:44:43):
we need the passing of the ball. Yeah, that's what
we need, and salt Lake does that the best, and
Miami does that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Miami's good. Are you watching Miami this season?

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Love, I'm a little behind, just because we've been so underwater.
But the last episode I saw Lisa was forming out
of a lunch tearfully. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Did you see the fight between Julia and Gerty.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
Yeah, I can't believe what's gone on with Julia.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
I'm actually shocked and towards Gerty, of all people.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
It's really bizarre, especially at this stage in Gerty's life,
to act this way. But I think that I think
that Julia and Martina are way crazier than people can
ever really truly understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Sometimes gay people can be evil.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Can confirm as I look you in the eyes, no,
like no, yeah, like that's the thing. It's like, we're
not always heroes. See me if they put me on
Traders on the show, yeah yeah, but that's my I
just feel like we need ensemble comedy, you know, that's
what I need, ensemble comedy. I need the office.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
But with these women, yeah, it's like the value. It's
like we were watching it. It's gotten star.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
I don't think this is the game of people trying
to ruin each other's lives. That thing. That's the thing is,
it's like it can't be that, dude, if it is
that deep, like it's just not fun. And did did
the ratings go way down for the value?

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
Give me fighting over an Instagram post. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
You put like you edited yourself and not me. You know,
like you face you yourself and not me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
It's like you picked a photo that you look best.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
It's like I wasn't tagged in something. We're going to
fight about it for seven months with me. No.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
My sister posting a picture of all of us at
Thanksgiving one year and face tuning herself, which then stretched
me out beside her and I looked you you only.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
You only thought of yourself when you face period.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Period like that, That to me is a whole season
episodes called face tune.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Yeah, and all the best episodes are of any house
lives is when everyone is hitting. Like there was an
episode of Miami, I think it was two seasons ago
where they're like they're like eating dinner on the beach
and Adriana de Mora is just on ten. She's just

(01:47:15):
talking about her broken foot.

Speaker 12 (01:47:16):
It was when.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Coats broken foot, I could have smashed my foot into
a million pieces, like like everything going on, like Kiki
peeing on the beach, like someone just randomly tackling someone else,
and that being how it happened with Adrian are coming
in in the wheelchair the next day being ruled rolled
by Julia. The best moment of the whole episode. And

(01:47:41):
I missed doctor Nicole on this season so much, but
I think she'll be back. Was when they're the women
are all talking and I think they're getting ready to
like go to lunch, and like Julia's rolling Adriana in
Who's you know in a foot cast that they've made. Yeah,
and you just see doctor Nicole like literally turns sees

(01:48:02):
Mama come in in the wheelchair and just goes and
goes to cover her laugh because and I've asked some
of this and I'm like, when things are happening like this,
do you know it's gold? And they're like, I mean
kind of, but like you got to stay in it. Yeah,
you know what I mean. It's like you got to
keep your splits on the same time, it's like you
gotta you gotta keep your clip.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Are you watched did you watch the OC premiere or
do you haven't seen the Is it good?

Speaker 8 (01:48:29):
Is it?

Speaker 9 (01:48:29):
See?

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
I sometimes sometimes the first episodes of the season's like, okay,
you gotta think you have to warm up.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
Yeah, but I felt like OC really came out of
the gates. So Katie Janella is the villain this season.
Is that what it's giving? She's like.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
And like like like she can't not go.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
I was actually kind of team Katie at the end
of the regime last year because I thought Heather Dubro
went too hard, way too hard, and I'm like, I'm
a Heather to real fan. She again is just like
the epitome of the type of person whose life I
want to watch rich. She's expert at being rich expert,

(01:49:13):
and so is Terry. Yeah, like and them together that
is you know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
It's that's what I I want more of that I don't.
I don't want housewives like not being able to pay rent.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
Yeah, the tax fraud is and also what is their
or their partner is part of some sort of Dodger scam? Yeah, no, no, no, no,
it's so crazy because like it's like it's like sometimes
it's like okay, so you just you just see a
man for one second on television and you're like, what
crime is it?

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
What? What? How long are you going away? And when?
Like should we expertite it? Like is is your wife
putting you on television so that you can go to
jail so that she can like best case?

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
It's best case it's white cop or there's bodies like
it's so.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
How often do you think these women go on television?
Or it's a like Kelsey Grammar situation where he's like, yeah,
you should do this show so they have like an out,
Like how many marriages are using this as an excuse
consciously or subconsciously? What do we think?

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
I feel like it has to be more than not,
you know, like yeah, then I'm trying to think of
who or like how many healthy relationships? How many single
housewives there are healthy relationships I think we have.

Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
I don't think like if your husband's a character on
the show, if your husband's also like a diva housewife,
you're good.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
But Joe Gorga vibes, yeah, I think that they will
be very very ham Harry hamlin a ten.

Speaker 7 (01:50:53):
Yeah, they're good.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
So this is my favorite story. My best friend Jared
was hiking in Studio City. There's like there's certain trails
up there. I forget what they're called. Yes, And he
hiked past Harry Hamlin and Harry like they both had
dogs and the dogs were meeting or whatever. And Jared,
my best friend, just goes to him, congrats on the

(01:51:17):
sauce at the Bolonaise, and he was like, thank you
so much, like you know what I mean, like getting
being like told like that instead of his like sexiest
man in alive, Yeah, and deservedly so. Also so good
on like madmen y, like you know what I mean,

(01:51:39):
like so legit, and congrats on the sauce. That is
the flattening of culture. That's what I say. We need
more of that, we need way more.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
What do you feel like was the cultural impact of
Lisa Rinna's eminem.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
I think that it's a multiple nominee at the Culture Awards.
I'm gonna say it's actually the Lisaana eminem is up
against Page Disorble for the Allison Williams Cool Girl Award,
and you're gonna have to tune in to find Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:52:07):
I feel really strongly that I love Page Disorbo and
I loved her little like. She even pulled a dirt hat.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
That Page Disorble pulled at the Cultural Awards. That was
maybe my proudest moment. It was I I bone and
I created an event where page just crush, Page crushed.
I always say, well, I used to call them the
JFK and Jackie of Bravo, and they are now She's

(01:52:39):
just Jacqueline. Yeah, she's in her She looked so hot.
She's truly just effortless. I did her like on Amazon,
like you get in bed with her show, and we
had never met. I get in like I'm for some

(01:52:59):
reason bleach lawn and have like a crazy tan crisis.
I'm sure, but I was like hi, and she goes,
I feel like we already know each other but we
haven't met. I was like, no, yeah, because we're both
like Tri State Area down.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean the club membership.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we're both we probably are cousins. Yeah,
not being Italian at all, Like, yeah, you can pull
it off. Though I've always I'm from Long Island, so
I get Italian a lot. But I'm actually like my
mom's Greek. So that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
The way you said it like a disappointment my mom's Greek.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Well no, actually so well the drama is when I
did the twenty three and me, oh no, so I
spit in the damn tubes, send it in. Think this
is going to be great, Like I bet I'm going
to find out something really cool. I can't wait to
find out. I'm even more Greek than I've ever thought.
Comes back full on Turkish, I said, thank god my

(01:53:57):
grandmother is that she loved being Greek. She loved it. Well,
we remember when we were little, she took me to
see my big fact Greek wedding. She was like, this
is my life, this is my culture. She passes. Why
we find out not a drop.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
I thought I was one hundred percent Polish.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Turns out there was sweet some Swedish in there, some
Jewish in there, No Polish.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Yeah. So honestly, it's kind of like I was like,
maybe I'll find out something crazy like I wanted. I
wanted so badly to go to Bowen and be like,
guess who's one point six percent Asian. Didn't happen, just
more Turkish than Greek.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
How did you mentioned you and Bowen met in college. Yeah,
how like do you remember the day?

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
I remember the moment. It's weird, like I remember pretty
much all my close friends. It's a bizarre thing where
I have like a photographic thing like Bowen and I.
It was freshman year and I was on. I was
very very closeted my freshman year at n YU. Even
my whole first year at NYU, which is like, you know,

(01:54:59):
dripping in gay guys and New York City was somewhere.
I was so excited to go because I thought, you know,
even just coming from Long Island, like I'll be able
to be more myself, et cetera. But a girl from
my high school also got into NYU, and so I
remember being really scared, like, oh, if I come out,
she's gonna go back and tell everybody. And so I
remained closet at my whole freshman year. So this girl

(01:55:21):
on my floor was like, I'm going to go to
the improv show. My friend Bowen is in the improv group,
and or it wasn't the improv show. We're gonna go
to this sketch show. But my friend Bowen, who is
gonna come He's in the improv group, and I usually
you guys should meet. So I remember coming around the
elevator bank and standing there waiting for us was Bowen Yang,

(01:55:43):
and I remember when we looked at each other and
sort of it was like that thing of like you
know that's scene when Pocahonta sees John Smith and it's
like it's like we saw each other and We're like,
what what is this? And I was and it was
just kind.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Of like, Okay, were you John Smith or Poke?

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
I think I'm going to responsibly say I was John Smith, Okay,
even though I do think pokemonas in that scene is
so gorgeous, you know what I mean, their period Disney
you ate that. So like we had this weird thing
because he was also closeted at the time and pretending
to have a crush on this girl who had invited

(01:56:22):
me to the show. So we go to the sketch
comedy show and I'm literally there and I'm watching it
and Rachel Bloom is in the group and it ended
up being Hammercats, which was the sketch group that I
joined and then became the director of. But Bowen was
the gay in the improv group, and I was the
gay in the sketch comedy group at NYU, and so
because when we've eventually came out, like after I made

(01:56:44):
the group, which, by the way, I don't tell the
story a lot, but I auditioned for the improv group
and Bowen came over and was like, we're so excited
you're auditioning, like we hear you're really funny, and they
cut me first round. And so then I made the
sketch group and I was like, you cut me, bitch,
and he was like, I'm sorry, Like it wasn't me,
it was the girls, like it was them. I was like, yeah, yeah,

(01:57:05):
that sounds like a Love Island cast literal. I was like,
I was like okay. And so then I'm I'm the
gay in the sketch group. He's the gay in the
improv group. And so all the you know, like straight
people in the group were like, you know, be best friends,
like do it you know what I mean, like perform
for us, like aren't you gay? And aren't you gay?
It's like when you're the two gays at a wedding

(01:57:26):
and everyone there is like you guys should fuck well damn.
So then like we were like kind of like resentful
like I'm not going to be a friends with him
just because we're gay, Like no, And then almost instantaneously,
like I think we were both like I don't know,
I have the same like comedy party like off book
to You Belong with Me by Taylor Swift, like jumping

(01:57:46):
around and being like we're best friends, huh, and so
then boom, you know what I mean, Like we were
just like we have a weird thing where it's like
I feel like he's like my twin that was born
on a different day than me in a different part.

Speaker 9 (01:58:01):
Of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
Like we have a very very very symbiotic energy, Like
he's just like he's like a soulmate of mine. And
it like it was years of just being friends and
we started another like sketch group together in New York,
Like we were truly just like waiting tables. He was
a graphic designer. He was the graphic designer in house

(01:58:23):
for one kings Lane. Yeah, and then like I was
waiting tables in the financial district and you know, working
five days a week with the gnarliest like five eyebros,
Like you know, it just was so I've saw these
men run our banks and then come in for lunch
and get tanked and go back to work. I'm just like,

(01:58:44):
there goes my money. Yeah rah rah, And so like
I'm grinding, grinding, grinding, And then we decided to start
the podcast in twenty sixteen, just independent no expectations. It was.
That's why it's called lost Culture restus because it's so stupid.
We never thought anyone would listen. And it was a joke, like,
just got a bunch of our friends to come on
and be it. I don't think so, honey. Bit was

(01:59:05):
like we have to do something. And one joke we
would do is whenever anyone was being stupid, we would
just go, I don't think so, honey, no, sweetie, like
and I was like, I guess that'll be the bit,
and like it'll be a sixty second rant like every
other podcast in the goddamn world.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Isn't it funny though, when you're like, if I knew
this was going to be a thing, I know, if
I don't want, I wouldn't have named it this. No
file files is a great you know, no, it's so
thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
But and also it tells people forever how to pronounce it,
you know what I mean, because they're so many people
come in here and they're like the v All Files.

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
No, they're not how do you pronounce your last name.

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
Vile vile? By all?

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
That's not vi All, It says vill vill Vile files.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:59:58):
At all. It's iconic because you know, up we're talking
about it. But like yeah, no, then the podcast like
gained the momentum over time, like truly word of mouth,
and then yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Well it's it's amazing. We all love it and uh
we love you guys and love you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
So this is the best. I can't is it over?
Are keep going?

Speaker 8 (02:00:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
I was just I was like, I just want to
be respectful of your time.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
No, wait, what time is it? Oh do we have
to go? I have like fifteen more minutes. We want less.
You guys are like, get the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
We do want to do some content with you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:30):
Content. I have a goofy idea. She has a I
bet you what did you say? Oh ship, So we
started to do that. I'm and then Melissa, that's my
bestie over there, like like literally like puts me in
closed and like tells me to do tiktoks and at.

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
That's a good friend.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
It's a really good friend. And also, wait, Melissa, you
got to show them the octo. Just get your phone.
So this is my this is you know the of
the phone.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
Oh yea yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
This is literally you're never going to be the same.
Do you see this? Everyone? This is a visual medium
out of the way of the camera. So this this
like thing.

Speaker 1 (02:01:13):
Yeah yeah, windows not on.

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
This phone, the windows. It'll be crazy and you could
do the craziest fit checks and tiktoks, like the best lighting,
best lighting ever. I'm just saying, like this thing, what
was it eight dollars on Amazon? It's just.

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
I have to trade mine out, Like I have to
only put it on if I know I'm gonna do
like because it gets so gross to me. I found
a new one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
What is it? Are you on now? By the way,
you at the desk is so iconic everything, Jenna bush.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
Hager, I'm honored.

Speaker 5 (02:01:56):
No, it's a little thing that's round and you uh,
it has like the suction cup thing, but it's not sticky,
and then you tighten it and you can literally put
it on anything. And it has like a little magnet
for the mag safe cases. Yeah, you can literally put
it on the mirror, put it on the wall, you
just like suction cup it on and then it's it
holds and then you just twist it and it releases.

Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
No, she's turned me into a monster now, because now
I'll just I'll slap it on the mirror and just
FaceTime people and I'll just like be happy just because
you can't good right now I have to call somebody.
I know. It's like, honestly, I just got a place
in New York and unfortunately for everyone in my contacts,

(02:02:36):
the mirror has good lighting, and so now I'm just like, hey, like,
I just wanted to check in, babes, But why do
you keep looking up.

Speaker 1 (02:02:46):
To the right. It's like, I don't I just like,
because don't you love it?

Speaker 9 (02:02:51):
But yeah, no, this is I'm so happy you guys
invited me to be.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Will we come back?

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
Of course I'll come back.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
We love that. Are we going to get another season
of No Good?

Speaker 3 (02:03:02):
So basically, No Goad Deed was it was? It was
the show I was on on Netflix like it's it's
on an indefinite pause, I think because it was kind
of written as a limited series, and then there was
actually some conversation about continuing it with some of the
characters and and it did great. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
But you're fantastic in it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:22):
Thank you so much. That's really kind. But because really,
really what I want to be doing is acting, like
that's like what I really love. And I have some
stuff that's gonna come out October November, but like it's
it's a bummer when because a lot of the stuff
I've done that I've loved has only had one season

(02:03:44):
just because of whatever reason. It's hard. It's hard for
things to get renewed. I was joke Bowen as an
expert at getting renewed and I'm a flop.

Speaker 9 (02:03:51):
At getting redued.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
But like that one was just written as like a
limited series. It kind of ended clean, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
I was like, are we gonna get one?

Speaker 3 (02:04:01):
Yeah? There was one storyline that could have kept going,
and I think the idea was to follow Teana Paris's
family LT Fact Menley like their family, and then a
new cast around them. Because when we started, everyone had
a one season contract. So that's how I knew. I'm like,
that's why I when when you sign on for a
one season contract, that's like that's otherwise they'd sign you

(02:04:23):
in for ten.

Speaker 1 (02:04:24):
Well whatever you're doing in October November. We will be watching.

Speaker 3 (02:04:27):
I'll tell you after. I mean your stars, like you
guys are the best. Thank you still rising. It's it's
really like so cool to be here and I'm a
fan and we love you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
Yeah. Oh that was so much fun and that was
just delight. I always I want to say French kiss,
but chef's kiss, do you Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
I don't want to say French kiss, but I do
know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
I wanted to say, do.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
You want a French kiss?

Speaker 2 (02:04:57):
Matt Rogers, I mean, like you know, I don't like,
not want.

Speaker 3 (02:05:00):
It's fine. I don't want to talk about it anyways.

Speaker 2 (02:05:02):
That wraps up our show. Thank you to all our
guests Matt Rogers, Austin Nichols as well as Taylor Owd
and James Neil. We appreciate them all and appreciate you
guys listening as well. Be sure to check out all
our episodes that's our out there, whether it was Luke
from the Valley that was on Tuesday's episode. If you
are just finishing up Love Island and you're just playing

(02:05:24):
catch up, we have pretty much the entire cast of
Love Island on our show. Should be sure to check
out all those great interviews. We will see you back
next week for another jam packed, exciting week. Until then,
bye bye,

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