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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for
all he talk with the aw Fat Up podcast team.
This is the voice of aw Fat ub Kelson. Yeah
that's bullshit anyway. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The voice
of aaw gags on himself. There, you guys swallowed my
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own spit went down the wrong pipe. That was totally stupid. Anyway,
we just saw aw Dynamite and I thought it was
a pretty good show, and from what I understand, a
lot of other people thought it was a pretty good show.
Started off hot with Kenny Omega and Will Ospray. What
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did you guys think about that?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think if you're going to start a show off,
it's had some travel is shoes.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That's a hellrible way to start.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I like the story now, like it's progressing. So I
liked it and all those moves there in the crowd
that they did. And then I always get scared because
it's like concrete, So just guys be careful.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Uh hee Omega is scared of heights, and I'll blame them.
I wouldn't want to follow up either of those either.
Those pylons, so but the heck of a start. That's
a great way to start, and honestly, those two are
the power team. Will be kind of cool to watch.
I kind of predicted this match what happened and at
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the next big show, so you know, it's something that
we need to see and join in together. I would
love it to be a three way match, but I don't.
But I think a tag team match is just as good.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I mean, what have Osprey and Omega in a tag
team match against anybody? It's gonna be news.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think the best part of the whole thing was
when Kenny said that he was afraid of height. You
could just see Osprey just start busting out laughing. It
was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh well, I'm not really great with heights either, but
I mean it wasn't really that high up. I mean
he did just like dive off of that height.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know, I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of
falling off heights.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
My dad's always was a house painter and we had
to do a lot of ladders, and I don't do
ladder as well. But in that kind of situation, if
it's something solid that I know, it's not gonna fall.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
That takes some talent to double jump off of what
he did. I mean, Kenny kind of had. Kenny didn't
have the sure footing that Osprey did, so jumping back
off of that thing, I would feel we had to
be pray of talent and be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah. Well, the good news with what Kenny had is
that he had something to hold on to with his hands,
where Osbury didn't have that either. But yeah, I mean,
we're starting to get some uh some matches for Grand
Slam Australia Australia. So we now have Tony Storm and
Mariah May. We've got Will Osprey and Kenny Omega against
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Fletcher and.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh my god, this looking guy in business.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I for some reason, I just went blank. Anyway, Yeah,
that's gonna be great. I mean, come on, I mean,
that's a Marquee matchup, you know, and it's essentially a
dynamite So that's a that's something. I mean, I really
like that they're really going ahead and making matches for this.
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But anyway, I thought that it was a really well
done promo right from the beginning. I told a good
story and got it done and had a beginning, middle,
and an end for sure, and that's all you can
ask for in a story. And may the crowd was
into it and I'm into it, and I think it's
a uh I think it's a good advertisement for Grand
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Slam to get people to you know, tune into Grand Slam.
So let's move on. We've got we had three after well, well, no,
we actually the next thing was, uh, the Hurt Syndicate
against Private Party. Was anybody surprised by this result? No?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Kind of was. You know, Tony is not known for
a lot of titles changing hands on on dynamite or collision,
so I thought it was really neat to do it then, right, Yeah,
I'm they dominated a matching stuff. But I still say
it's funny that they're trying to sell that desk because
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a solid oak desk that just doesn't fly with me.
That's not I think that'sh's more than the stock market.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So uh, yeah, that was cardboard.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, but it was a good man and I
think you had it still put private party over.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I think you would add a hard party over.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Huh You thought I put private party over? Getting a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, at least they didn't bury him.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I hate to use that word, but I thought that
was just like a destruction for the get Go. I
don't think Private Party was ever even in that match.
I mean, they may have well been two jobbers in
that match in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, I kind of agree.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I think it would have been a hard sale
for them to not beat Private Party.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean the difference in class is just outrageous.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah. I mean when I heard that, you know, there
was some Apple issues people could get out of, you know,
get flights or even icy roads. We're preventing people from
getting to the airports. Obviously, Samoa Joe didn't make it tonight,
so that match was scrapped. I was kind of thinking,
maybe they'll fill some time and this match will go
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to a time limit draw, you know, so that they
could build up for maybe a match of Grand Slam
or two weeks from now in Atlanta, you know, but
they went ahead and then just changed the titles. Look hurt, Syndicate.
I mean, they couldn't afford to lose this match, that's
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for sure, because they're better wrestlers than Private Party. And
I don't mean that Private Party are bad wrestlers, but
You're looking at two guys who were in the ring
and the third MVP that's outside the ring, with so
much experience, I mean each of one individually, it is
probably more experienced than Private Party combined, you know what
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I mean. So it was believable basically for them to win.
I would not have been upset if they had gone
to a to a time limit draw. It was a
twenty minute time limit. It would have made sense, but hey,
what can you do. But congratulations to the new aw
World Tag Team title holders. I hope that probably that
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hurt Syndicate actually defend the Belts more than Private Party did,
because Private Party really didn't defend the Belts at all.
They did against Leo, Russian Action Andretti, but let's face it,
that wasn't really a serious contender. And so when I
look at Private Parties entire run with the with the Belts,
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and I'm not speaking poorly a Private Party here at all,
because I do think they're extremely talented. I just said
that there. Their their run wasn't very very good, I mean,
just to be honest with you, because of the booking,
because they just didn't do anything well.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I think I think the C two hurt them, and
just I think what it was was an audible. It
was an audible in a way for them to win
because the box were hurt. And I think they gave
it to them, and I think they knew that this
is going to be a paper champion that they were
gonna you know, transitional.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
They still could have treated them better. They could have
given I know, yeah, they could have given some uh,
you know, title defenses. When the graphic showed up right
at the beginning of the of the match, they've had
one title defense instead according to the graphic. Yeah, so,
I mean, come on, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's and again, this is a bad time of year
with the C two. It just it takes up so
much time in the month of December that any title
changes that happened in before that or in December are
going to have they're going to suffer.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, in my opinion, to alleviate that this year when
they do to C two, if they do the C two,
they simply need to start it earlier and set out
of four matches a week, maybe two matches a week.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, you say the same thing, but the T and
T title, I mean, he Dane Garcia hasn't done a
lot with it either.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, yeah, but he was in the Sea two actually,
so yeah, that's true. Also the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, So moving on, we actually had three different non
wrestling segments. We had a Mariah May video, We had
Jeff Jared in the ring and talking, and you know,
Claudio Castanoli came out. They made a match for next
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week Jeff Jared and Calio Castanol And then we also
had a little vignette with Megan Bain. What did you
guys think of this? Did this serve any good purposes
for you?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I like the fact they said Jared and and Cass
and Juli up against each other next week. It'll be
an interesting match. Cason Yuli can make anybody look good,
so it'll definitely be interesting.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I was more interested. Sorry, go ahead, go go. I'm
not interested in this Jeff Jarrett Moxley thing. I know
how it's going to turn it all. It just feels
like they're going to murder Jeff Jarrett or try to.
I'm just not interested in it. The Megan Bank thing
caught my most attention because now they're promoting her as well,
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so we no, it's just not going to be a
one off and I could see her going places.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, I agree with you. I I like the Jeff
Jarrett getting his flowers thing because I do think he
deserves it. Realistically, he should not compete, be able to
compete with Claudio Casagnoli and Audio Castano should he lose
to Jeff Jared clean What just made Claudio Cascan look bad?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Honestly, if Jared beats cast it really doesn't mean anything
because you know that Jeff Jared is gonna get the world.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You also know that it's not going to be a
clean win because you know, damn well, if that MGF
is gonna get in Bold, he's gonna you know it's
that's the way they're setting it up.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Cassi is gonna it's.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Gonna be where he's beaten the living crap out of him,
and he's gonna come out and he's gonna make himself felt.
He's gonna do something. He's gonna hit Castani with the
with the ring. Jeff Jared's gonna get the win and
he's gonna say, see, I told you need me.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
What I'd like to see. Definitely, I want to see
more Jeff Jared and m JF not Jeff Jared and
death Writers stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well rightly baking, I don't want to see many more
death Writers stuff at all.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
So yeah, sure that later.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I thought about that a little bit later, but yeah, yeah.
So then we had Swore Strickland in ar Fox, which
you know a lot of people saw its kind of
a random match. I thought it was a fine match.
I mean they but obviously it was a vehicle to
you set up Ricochet getting involved, and I thought that
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they pulled that off very well. I thought the match
was really good. I thought it was entertaining. What did
you guys think?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Good match?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They you know, they've they've got a long history. They've
been buddies, they've been wrestling partners, they've done all kinds
of things together.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So it was a really good match.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah. Yeah, I can't disagree with anything they said. I
think it's solid matches. Sat up boy it was supposed
to and Ricochet, you know, did his things. So they're
actually joined and hopefully I think we'll get something at
Grand Slam.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah that's a good point. Well, I know that Ricochet
and Swerve are meeting in two weeks in Atlanta, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
It won't be a Grand Slam. It'll be Dynamite.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I think it's Dynamite the week Actually, I think it's
Dynamite the week before Grand Slam.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
It's in two weeks, so what's that February the fifth?
I think it is the fifth. I'm trying to remember
the graphic, but you know, I don't have it in
front of me. But yeah, I mean it's a that's
a really good match to set up for Atlanta too,
because you know, having grown up into Atlanta. In Atlanta, Uh,
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that's the kind of match that I know that my
friends and the people that I used to hang out
with in the wrestling community would have loved to have seen.
So I'm glad that it's happening in Atlanta because that's
a really good, uh really good clash. I mean, I
I really do think that this is the perfect Honestly,
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I'd be shocked if that wasn't the main event in
Atlanta because I think that's really good. Uh So, moving on,
we then had the New York Minute in the heart
of the Rocky Mountains. I believe Christian uh you know, so,
uh yeah, I don't't. I don't know why they call
it the New York minute. You know when they're in
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where were the King of New York? New York? You know, yeah,
you know from he grew out just outside of New
York in Winnipeg.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah yeah, in New York. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Odd that Jericho is blaming Bill for the loss when
it wasn't Bill that lost, it was the bad Apple.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think the part of that was he wasn't blaming
him for the loss, he was blaming him from for
using the lesson in a loss. But ye really, ultimately
it was just setting up the match with Big Bill.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That'll be a good match.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It will. Oh yeah, look look Hobbs big Bill. Odds. Look,
I said it last week, that seventy four man tag
team match that they had on Collision would have worked
a lot better if it was Hobbs Bill.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Have this match coming up.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I would see Hobbs Bill too, you know. It's it's
as simple as that. That match on Saturday was unwatchable
for me, so I didn't watch it.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah. I really love how they're building Hobbs up as
a contender this. I think it's gonna be a street fall.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I meet.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You have the parking lot. I'm assuming that's gonna be
a man match type.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
They didn't actually call him the match. They just said
they were gonna Yeah, they didn't say anything about it
being a match yet. They're just gonna meet and Hubbs
said I'll meet you in the parking lot. So yeah,
it probably is gonna be a street fight, but they
haven't announced it yet.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah. Hey, it may just be one of those ongoing brawls.
They meet like after the first segment and they fight,
they keep cutting to them for the next two hours,
fighting through the parking lot, through.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
The and then set the match up. Yeah, and then
set the match up for Australia.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Yeah, both of those guys.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So I don't know about that because look, Australia is
only a two hour show. There's only so many people
you can fit in a two hour show, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So well, I would love to see I would love
to see the Big Bill leave the Learning Tree and
possibly tag with Hobbes.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That would be something, you know, Look.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Good lord, the you have the Don Kallas boys. Those
are two giant men that they're willing to beat the
crap out of people. You put these two together and
then you have the new Tag Team Champions Tag team
division is looking a lot better.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, look, AW has always had a very good tag
team roster, I guess is the best way to put it.
They just refused to use them, and again, the Trios
Championship really hurt them. I really really believe that the
Trios Championship has hurt the Tag team division. It's as
simple as that. So they need to get back to
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tag teams and throw the Trios title in the trash
or make it a rig of Honor exclusive title, as
simple as that. So anyway, then we had MJF come
out and do a promo which I thought was one
of his more low key. Is that a good way
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to describe it? A low key? I'm still effective. But
he did bring up the Devil for the first time
in a long time, much to the Chagrino the crowd.
I kind of enjoyed it. I think that he honestly
didn't mean to do it, but he just started it
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and he knew he couldn't hold it back, so he
went ahead and said it. I just got that impression.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't think anybody will ever see him other than
the Devil.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
What's that I said?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't think anybody will ever consider him to be
anything but the devil, especially when he's in top heel mode.
I mean, you can call him whatever you want to
call him, but he's always going to be the devil.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean, I do enjoy No one will ever
be on the level of the devil better.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Than thank me later, I mean, or better than you
and you know it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, well, no better than you and you know it
is one of the best catchphrases. A w but you
can thank me later is just well it's it's not bad,
but it's not on that level of the devil.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I'm later either.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, everybody's been very unappreciative of IMJF. That's very disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
No, I just I can't go ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
No, I there's really not much to say about this.
I did want to move on to what I thought
was a really really cool segment. Uh, we had hangman
Adam Paige in a squash match against a guy. I mean,
this match lasted about five seconds longer than my wedding night. Well, yeah,
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I was not a dude. What boy. You guys have
dirty minds. Anyway, Anyway, Christopher Daniels after the squash gets
it and I thought that was a really cool interaction.
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What did you guys think, Well, the kid.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That he beat is a is a rookie, but he
has come from fames.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
He does come from famous.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Uh, we just talked about this kid to this match
longer than the actual match one. Christopher Daniels not about
it was probably right now.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It was interesting because Daniels made him think, Yeah, and
it might be the first time since he's gone off
the deep end that he's actually stuck to think.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Did you see did you think that maybe use it?
Did you think that uh, trying to think of the
word here. Did you see maybe an instant just it's
an instant where Hangman added, Page looked apologetic and soppened.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Up a little bit, they announce.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I definitely saw it. I thought that was a good presentation.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Maybe maybe it's the turning point for Handle. He'll go.
I don't know how to deal with him because he's
an I think it'd be great to see him stoppen
a little bit of psycho Hangman Page, so it's coming
let down. I could totally let loose of it.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, well, look, I mean it was cool to see
Christopher Daniels come out and basically announce his retirement too.
I think he deserved that, and I liked the way
he did it, and I like that they humanize Hangman
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added page A little bit because him going off the
deep rails, door to deep bend and off the rails
for months and months and months and months on end
with no let up whatsoever. It was nice seen a
little bit of a crack, and I definitely saw it.
That's all I can say about that. So then we had, well,
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in my notes here, I see that there's Mercedes Monet
and Harley Cameron their little interaction backstage, which I thought
was pretty funny. I mean, I thought it wasn't great.
My favorite part was when Harley Cameron asked Mercedes Monet
for the match at Grand Slam. At Mercedes Monett said no, no,
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you know I thought that. I thought that was the
best part, just great. And then of course we had
Harley Cameron and Tony Storm going into an OSSI off
the Puet and just stood there and she was like,
I didn't catch any of that, and neither did I.
But it was still great. It really was great. So
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and I believe that was before the Mercedes Monet bit.
So Harley Cameron actually got like two different segments tonight
and I thought they both I thought they both did
really well.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, I'm loving Harley Cameron.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
She's gonna get a win soon, you think, yep, late,
Maybe they'll end up giving that match at Australia.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Maybe they will give her a win over the dead
guy that hangman, Adam page Be that you wanted to
talk two minutes about.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
For whatever reason, got I get that one. She'll get
one in Australia, her home, her home.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I'm sure they may put her against a local wrestler
from Australia, you know, have her, have her do a
five minute song. Yeah, you know why they gotta get
Harley Cameron on that show, you know. I mean it
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doesn't have to mean anything. She doesn't have to give
a big wins. Like I said, she can get a
local talent, but I think it's important to get Harley
Cameron her first win. Can you imagine her getting her
first win at Grand Slam in front of her home crowd.
That would be awesome, That would be awesome. Then I'm
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just gonna say this, we had Heart versus Hater too
the first match. Everybody when when that first match happened.
Pretty much everybody on the podcast thought it was a really,
really great match, except for me. I thought it was
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just a mid match. Tonight's match was far far better
than the first match they had. Hater and Heart have
definite chemistry.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, and the first match was Julia's first match back,
and Hater's still been in that returning mode. But tonight
there was that would that you didn't see that. It
was a straight up they looked like their normal selves
in the ring.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, I agree. I mean, Hater's a powerhouse, and she
showed a lot of power during this uh during this match,
I mean she really did. And I don't think that
Julia Hart gets the credit for the bumps that she takes. Oh,
I personally think I personally believe that Julia Hart's the
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best bump taker in the women's division right now, easily,
and she's been that way. Look what's with the men?
You know, she's gotten taken bumps from men too, so
she's uh, I think she needs a little bit, gets
a little credit. Selling wise, she's pretty good too, but bumping,
she's Julius fearless.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, that comes from her twodating background. I would imagine I.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Don't know, but you know, it's it's one of those things.
I was really happy that Hater got the win. I
actually made a post on AW fan Hub earlier today
where when you look at the AW Women's division and
the former champions, whether it means that they're uh A
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former AW Women's champions are former TBS champions, believe it
or not. Other than Soireya, who has the worst winning percentage,
Next is Jamie Hayter. She has just not been booked
to win. Yes, she got the Women's World Championship. Even
in the weeks before she got the Women's World Championship,
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she was still losing quite a bit, you know, as
far especially in you know, singles matches what I'm talking
about specifically, she really didn't get any marquee wins. And
then all of a sudden she was the champion. She
was beating a lot of women that had never won
a match before, you know, so I was happy to see.
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I've got to go on and say it that this
was definitely one of Jamie Hayter's biggest wins in a
really long time, and it was a good competitive match,
and I think it was important for Hater to win
this match. Because if she had lost this match, what's
the point of Jimmy Hayter, you know what I mean,
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that's that's my That's what I would have felt. I mean,
they would have almost I don't like using the term buried,
but it was almost like it's not a bary, but
it's like, Okay, now you've got to really come back
and you can't come back from that kind of loss
again by beating jobbers here, there and everywhere. You've got
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to beat people with names, and so you know, Julia
Hart's a good name to beat. So kudos to Jamie
Hater on that. But I don't know, I did you
guys enjoy this match?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
I really enjoyed it. Uh yeah, those bumps by Julia
Heart and her shoulder, I'm like, oh man, that must
have really hurt.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah. I think the most impressive thing that I saw
Julia do was that octopus hold, because that was a
seed that was really smooth. Oh yeah, well tried into that.
That was really good. So something you were going to
say something, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
No, I just said it was a great match. It
really was.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Uh, those two returning to form and it's great to
see that happen.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, We had a couple more vignettes after this, but
the one that stood out to me is something that
we've talked about on the aw fanhab subreddit, and here
was the Brody Buddy and Julia you know mignette that
they did where they basically came out and said their
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time is the House of Black is over, that they
don't have a leader or a mountain mouthpiece or a god.
I even think they said, and they're all going to
be just about the violence. And if you noticed, well
you saw they they have they have trademarked or filed
for a trademark for Hounds of Hell and Hell's Hell
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Hounds and Cerberus, and they were walking around tonight, so
it looks like that's gonna happen. And I think that
tonight is significant and that it pretty much signaled that, yeah,
Mile Kai Black is done in aw or did it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I still don't think it did, because they didn't say
he was leaving. They just said he went silent. He
he may have taken an extended leave. He may be
done for now. He may you know, he may be burntout,
he may want some time off.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And that's what I think happened because I just did.
Didn't tell me. It didn't say to me, well.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Malchy's quit, he's gone, he's not coming back. It just
said that our leaders went silent.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I am wondering if it is possible. I have two
things I wanted to say. First was I wondered if
it was possible that Buddy Matthews and Brody King were
scheduled to do something tonight but they couldn't. I well,
we talked about the main event tonight, We're to talk
(31:00):
about it here shortly. But I kind of expected Buddy
Matthews and Brody keen to come out in the aid
of Adam Copeland. But that didn't happen, I think, and
the only reason I could think of that they didn't
do that. I really do believe that they were supposed
to be there. I really do. I really believed that
they were supposed to be there, and they were supposed
(31:21):
to to help Adam Copland to night, I guarantee you
something go come out. And the do you saying that
Buddy and Brody or both of them either were one
of them just were not available tonight. The other thing
that I wanted to say was if you noticed during
the match between Jamie Hayter and Julia Hart. When Julius
Hart's entrance hit, she still came out honoring the House
(31:44):
of Black. I don't know if you caught that, but
that is true that that happened.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
I love her entrance song so much.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, like I said last night, I don't think she
needs to change her music because you know, she's still
the princess of the of the Black Throne, so you know.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
She can continue to be it can be.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It can still be honoring the House of Black because
it wasn't necessarily because it was Malachi Black.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's just it.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
That's what it's called. So you can keep her in
that same role.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
She doesn't have to change her music because that's some
of the best music in a women's division.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
And what's his name? Colin Young is the one who
performed that and wrote it. And uh, hey, I want
to who sings Uh it's I can't remember her name.
I used to know it. She's not an American singer, dad,
you know, not a She's I want to say she's German.
(32:48):
I don't know, but yeah, she's she's really good. I
mean that that is one of the better original entrance
themes in a w D only thing about aw entrance themes.
And this is not a slight at all on mikey
Ruckus or anybody else. But if you pay attention, and
(33:09):
this is always this is a wrestling thing. This goes back.
It's like an eighties wrestling thing. When are music hits okay,
Like let's look at tonight for example, the Hurt Syndicate
when their music hit. We actually have people in the
live chat say, man, this music is just not really
(33:32):
it doesn't it doesn't pump you up. But then in
the main event, which we're about to talk about, you
had Jay White come out and you had that sound effect,
that loud sound effect you do immediately and he got
a pop, right remember stealing Stone Colds the glass shirting
for Stone Cold, Steve Austin. You knew what was coming
(33:52):
as soon as that happened, you know. You Now there
are people looking like and it does not even be
a sound effect. It's like, look at somebody like will
Osprey whose music hits hard right from the beginning. You
know what I'm saying to that's so great that song. Yeah,
But what I'm saying is that it gets you hyped,
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whereas oh yeah, and I don't mean any disrespect at all,
But when it comes to hype music, swear Strickland's entrance
music is the worst I've ever heard in wrestling. I mean,
it's just so bad. I mean because it doesn't get that,
it doesn't get you that pop. It's it's so it's bland.
(34:37):
Can I get it? It's his song, he's performing it whatnot.
That's great, I guess, But but it's not one of
those pump you up. That's all I'm saying is it's
not one of those pump you up kind of themes.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Right I've noticed. Yeah, I agree. I think AW does
not have as recognizable music. I was watching in a
video where they were playing a game of rockest was
on it and he played some of the tons of
the past and I didn't know hardly any of them,
because I guess AW music doesn't stand out as much
(35:14):
to me as WWE does. I mean, it's it's weird
to say, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, no, no, That's what I'm trying to say is
that one of the strengths. I really do believe that
one of the strengths and WWE back in the day,
and one of the things that made the popular is
a simple fact that when you heard the Rocks, if
you smell what the rock is cooking, it got your
hYP you know, when you heard yeah exactly, there was
(35:48):
something identifiable and I want to say loud, and it
was like a driving force. It hits you right between
the eyes.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Ogan's music Boom You Knew, and Savage and all them.
Oh yeah, some of the best entrance music with flair.
The list goes on.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah. I mean, but again, you know, like the House
of Black Well, look at Julia Hart. Her music doesn't
really do that, but she gets the effect by the
lights going out, you know what's coming. It's kind of
like something that hits you between the eyes. Adam colpland
his is good because it's so identifiable. You know, when
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you get to something like Mariah May it's totally different
than Tony Storm because Tony Storm has that sound effect,
that loud sound effect, you know what's coming. Even when
she was timeless, Tony Storm, that music hit hard and fast.
There wasn't like a slow build up in wrestling. You
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don't need slow build ups and entry entrance music. It
takes away from the purpose. And that's my problem them
with swerves entrance music because it's not like a entrance.
Music should be like a hype video, and there's no
hype Tis music. And I've always bring it out swer
because it's the one that comes to mind, you know,
(37:15):
but it is.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
But Hangman is a little that way too.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Hangman's just though Hangman's effective because of the aesthetics of it,
because with the burning screen and everything like that, The
music on its own probably isn't as hard hitting as
say some of the others, but the entire package works. Again,
(37:43):
I think you can compare a Hangman with Julia Hart
because with Julia Hard or music isn't really that hard
hitting as far as the hype goes. But with the
lights going out, it's kind of the same thing with Hangman,
with the flames on the screen. When that happens, you
know it's me, you know what I'm saying. Adam Adam Cale.
(38:05):
His music is fantastic. You know what's think about? Just
listen to the biggest pops you've ever heard in a
w and then listen to go watch a video of
because there are some out there on YouTube the biggest
pops in aw history and look at and look at
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the pops and listen to the music that it companies it.
It makes a difference, That's all I'm saying. But anyway,
let's talk about the main event. We had Pack and
Adam Copeland and what I watched a match. For the
most part, I did have to take a I miss
(38:51):
like opening three minutes of it. But this is a
hard hitting match. Would you agree?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Good match?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
It was a great match.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You had two of the best wrestlers in the business,
and they went at it and didn't hold back at all.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
They both tried to out sell each other, which I
thought was great. They were really selling each other lose.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, and I was glad that they didn't have anybody
come out during the match. That made a big difference
in that because you had two guys that just literally
tried to destroy each other.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah. I mean, they beat the heck out of it.
If I had only one criticism of this match is
how it ended. It kind of seemed like an abrupt
ending to me. I don't know how you guys feel
about that, but I kind of did feel like it
was an abrupt ending. That's all I did. It was
like it was bad. I'm just saying it felt abrupt.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, I was kind of like shocked, like, oh, cope, one, Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
They've done that a few times in the recent in
the recent weeks, they've had matches that you thought were
gonna go for a while and they all of a
sudden just ended, and it's like, what did.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Somebody get hurt? You know, And it is becoming a
habit for them, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Uh. And of course after the match, aw I think
I'm pretty sure they showed a video package from like
three months ago, you know, with a run in from
from the Death Writers. It could have been live, it
could have been a pre taped I don't know, it
could have been it's the same thing. Oh yeah, it
(40:32):
just so it's so stupid, it's so unoriginal wild. I'm sorry,
it's bad.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah, it is. It is. I got a question that
why is rock and roll expression still hanging around and
still getting hurt every time they.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, if there's nothing, you know, you take one too
many bumps on the head.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
And stay away. Like every time they show up, something
happens that they him.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised Ain't got involved in this
a little bit because of the way he likes stick bumps.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
I don't know, you know, think they're down with Hilaire,
but uh, I'm just tired of it. Just the whole
ending really put a damp on the knife for me.
I was I was roaring to go in that moms
like I. I know they're going to come out. I
know they're going to do something, and once again they
lay waste to people and it's the same thing over
(41:26):
and over and I just cannot wait for this to end.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, it's as I said earlier, I was kind of
waiting for Buddy Matthews and Brody King to come out.
That would have made it good for me. Not great,
but good as it was. Maybe tonight I'll give them
a pass because there was travel issues and whatnot, and
maybe not everybody that was supposed to be part of this.
(41:49):
I was able to get there. I get there. I
will begrudgingly give them that. But there was no reason.
As soon as that match was over and Copeland got
the PID, it was basically ten o'clock and the show
let's go, because there was absolutely no reason whatsoever to
(42:10):
bring the Death writers out again to do the same
thing that they've done for the last four months again
to absolutely no effect. Again, it's boring, it's stupid. It
needs to end. Well, you know, remember back and you know,
(42:33):
I know you remember the whole what's his name? Bobby
Ewing in the shower on Dallas, you know, showing at
the beginning that the entire season prior to that was
a dream. Yeah, and it did nothing, no story. And
I'm just hoping that they show John Moxley wake up
(42:55):
in the bed next to thanks to Rena up his
daughter right now. Piquet says, how are you doing? John?
And he says, I just had the weirdest dream and
that that's it. That depth writers are over so great.
I swear to God they need it is a It
(43:17):
is probably one of the worst main stories I have
ever seen in all the years that by watching wrestling.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Yes, but and I keep on doing it.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
It's it's like, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
Why it's bad? This this whole dom babyface trope of
why why would stay in the ring when he knows
everybody is it is walking down? This this dumb courage.
I'm gonna stand in the ring and get beat down?
Why would you not if you don't have help? Why
would you stay in the ring and fight five people?
(43:53):
You know you're gonna lose what is the point.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, I was hoping that them hang men would come
out because he wanted the belt as well. But he
didn't come out.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm glad that man didn't come out, because then it
would really I mean, we had Jay White, you know.
And I'm sorry, but they're not doing it. They had
not done anything new with this story at all in
weeks and weeks and weeks, I mean literally nothing. They
(44:26):
maybe added a couple of new characters into it, like
FTR and Adam Copeland, but they haven't done anything new.
It's matter of fact, they've done less. Remember the good
old days when the pretty much all the the people
in the aw locker room are waiting for the death
writers of the parking lot. Yeah, I think maybe they
(44:51):
figured out that, hey, we can wait for him in
the parking lot, but if we don't cover the entire
parking lot, they just park on the other side of
the arena and we won't see them, which is exactly
what happened, you know. I mean, it's to the point
where it started off boring and stupid, and it's gotten
(45:14):
more boring and stupid as it's gone along. I'm sorry,
that's the way I feel I watched it tonight, and
be bluntly honest with you, it's probably the first time
I've watched it. I've I've kept it. I've watched like
the highlights on their YouTube channel, you know, the next day.
But I'm not staying awake to watch that stupid stuff,
(45:37):
you know.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
I mean, it's just it's Yeah, it's not Anno type
where it's fun to watch where they you know, then
you knew the direction and and and each message was
something different. We're coming for you, and we're coming to
the thing. And when I watch a mock Stay promo
now I just tune out. It's like, what are you saying? What?
(46:00):
What is the point of all this? There's no derivative,
there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, it's pointless. It really is pointless, and the story
is horrible. Look when it comes down to this, this
is the way I feel about it. At the last
pay per view, what was the main event, Moxley against
Jay White, Orange Cassidy at Hang Manhattan Page right. Yeah,
I went to bed early. I did watch that match.
(46:24):
I had no interest in why. It's blatantly obvious what
was going to happen in that match? There was no
reason to watch that match, just like there was no
reason whatsoever to watch the Orange Cassidy versus John Knoxley match.
It was blatantly obvious. This is one of the reasons
why I really appreciated the Hurt Syndicate and winning the
Tag Team Championships over Private Party. Yeah, some people were
(46:47):
saying that was kind of obvious, but it wasn't one
hundred percent. Everything that the Death Writers' storyline has been doing.
And I say everything that's been doing in a very
very uh complimentary way, because they really haven't done anything.
When you really look at it, they've done nothing. They're
(47:08):
not scary. I'm not like, oh no, it's the Death Riders.
I'm like, oh god, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
Mean you have you who looks like an EO. I'll
pack and Claudio and damn it. It's just to a
point of a great here they com past past fool
and that's all I want to do.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, yeah, are giving. They're gonna just start giving Wheeler,
you know, a walking sticks. He's not gonna be able
to see through all that ship. It's like his hair
has grown down from the top of his head and
up from his face, you know. So it's just like
I don't know. Pretty soon he's to look like cousin it.
Speaker 6 (47:48):
Also, I feel like Moxley's promos it's like he's saying
the same thing over and over again. I'm like, okay,
and your point is like, get to the point, man.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Exactly, Steve. Everything that everything that they've done, meaning the
Death Writers have done, have been on repeat. It's like
there's no surprises, and even if they try to do
a surprise, it's like it's kind of a little bit
too late for this. I've described John Moxley's promos as
(48:20):
the words I use, was passionately incoherent, because he talks
a lot, but he doesn't say anything.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
Yeah, he reminds me of try to do back in
the day, but he's just terrible at it.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I just look, I do believe they're doing the best.
I do believe they're doing the best with what they
you know, in the meaning the Death Writers doing the
best with what they've got. But I'm gonna say to
you right now, and I honestly believe this. The Death
Writer's storyline is Burt colleague Claudio Cassanoli. It's hurt Wheeler,
(48:56):
you to it's hurt Pack, especially since the three of
them have dos titles that they don't defend ever. Oh yeah,
and it's hurt John Moxley because frankly, John Moxley's kind
of a joke, kind of like a pathetic gag right now.
And I love John Moxley, but hey, I'm gonna call
it as I see it. This. This isn't working. I'm sorry,
(49:20):
it is bad.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
I don't know why they can't read the room.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah. Hey, you know, if I if I have one
hundred thousand dollars and I want to buy a Dolorean
and I really want to buy a Dolorean with that money,
and how muchever it takes to buy a DeLorean, and
people all around me tell me, hey, don't buy a
Dolorean my money. And if I want to buy a Dolorian,
(49:45):
I'm gonna buy a Deloorian and nothing you can say
it can stop me. I will regret it, probably later,
but nothing's gonna stop me. And that's the way I
look at this booking Tony CON's company. It's Tony CON's money.
He's in a boocket until he gets it to fruition,
and he doesn't really care that it sucks. I'm sorry
it does. I can't. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna
(50:07):
sit there and blow smoke up anyone's ass as an
AW fan, you know, saying oh, this is a great storyline,
because it's not, you know, and I hate I hate. Oh.
You need to let it cook a little bit. You know,
it has potential, it's getting better. Guess what. The last
time I heard that was when Jay Cargill was in
AAW and she didn't get any better and that her
(50:30):
potential sucked.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
Yeah, I'm just tired of it. It needs to end,
but I think it's gonna last. I hope it doesn't
go to all in. I think people are wary of it.
It's it's to me, one of the worst storylines in
AW history. So and that's the way I feel about it.
It's just terrible.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
It may not be the worst storyline in a W history,
but it's the worst main event storyline in a W
history by far in my opinion. I mean, AW, all
wrestling companies have had some really bad storylines. This one
has just got way too much exposure because it's the
main event. It's the main storyline in the company right now.
(51:13):
And I'm sorry, but the prospects of Julia Hart versus
JMI Hater three after tonight what they did after that match,
saying when Jamiator said, if you want a third one,
I'm right here any time. Yeah, was more was more
(51:34):
well executed than anything that death writers have done.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
Yes, but it's also the world title. I mean, look
at where it's at. We don't see it. We don't
you know, it's it's legacy. Is went on the tube
with this tube because they're dragging it down. He didn't
have as many matches. You know that prop one's gonna lose.
So he you know, I'm thinking, and he.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Next ask let me ask. Let me ask you a question.
When it comes to the world title, the AW Men's
World Championship, Should that championship be considered the top prize
in AW?
Speaker 5 (52:19):
It should?
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Is it right now?
Speaker 6 (52:24):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Out of the eight titles. Would you say it's in
second place, I don't know. Would you say it's in
third place? I don't I would say it's probably in
fifth place. You know, I think it's maybe a little
I mean the Trios title, maybe not even that anymore,
because the Trios title is definitely the worst title.
Speaker 6 (52:46):
Oh, it's just collecting dust. Those bills.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
The tag team title actually I think got elevated tonight.
All right, Uh, we've talked about the TNT title in
that it hasn't been defended, so that's kind of low
down there. We haven't even seen the world title. Obviously,
the women's title is much more important, much more not important.
(53:11):
But the word I'm looking for is prevalent.
Speaker 5 (53:15):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna just go out and say it. Whether
you like Mercedes or Murnee or not, the TBS title
right now is the most has the most focus on
it in yew.
Speaker 5 (53:33):
And that's and that's sad. Words came.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah, it should be like that. That's an open challenge
belt you know that. But she's elevated it. What can
you say. You can't falter for elevating She's doing her job.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
But yeah, I don't want to keep repeating myself. But
since at some time they gotta I don't know how
to pound it even more, they gotta switch directions are
ended or something.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, I mean, look at Takeshta. He's literally taken I've
said many times over the last several months that they
should just combine the international title and the Continental title
because there's no difference in between between the two of
them at all. Well, that's no longer the case Takeusha
is she's been under. The International title is kind of
(54:25):
I kind of like the n JPW Strong Title, where
it's like it's a American title, but it's an Internet
you know, like the Strong title for New Japan is
an American title, Whereas whereas the International Championship, even though
it's an AW title, Takeshta has made it a global championship.
(54:51):
That's what it should be. Orange Cassie couldn't do it.
I think John Moxley was International Championship champion, Will Ray.
None of these guys were able to do with what
Taqusha has done with it. Where's even though it's not
a title match, he's still going to be in Australia
and Tequestia is wrestling everywhere, and I give him a
(55:13):
lot of credit. He has really done a lot to
elevate that belt, which I didn't think was possible. It's
the International title is definitely more prestigious than the C two.
And don't forget I'm saying that even though the C
two on a Continental Classic, even though the C two
just ended not you know what a month ago, Les, Yeah, yeah,
(55:41):
the belt is meaningless.
Speaker 5 (55:45):
Yeah any other time?
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah, I mean and that we what was the last
time that we've seen the AW World Championship a couple
of months now? Hey, I think it's been longer than
That's the honestly, I mean it. AW World champion Championship
is just silly. I'm gonna say it right now. The
(56:11):
Death Writers are the male version of the Outcast. It's
a group that makes everybody else at aw's Men's division
look like absolute morons. It's doing nothing for anybody. Stop it,
kill it with fire. There is no reason to have
the Death Writers any longer. It's a proven loser. Sorry,
(56:39):
that's just the way I feel, very passionate.
Speaker 6 (56:41):
I agree with you there totally like they should be
showing that belt off and showing how prestigious the belt is,
but they don't. They just cover it up in that bag.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Which is point.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
That's the point, y'all are missing the point. The point
is the point is that the death Riders are making
it proving that the belt is meaningless in ae W
Where's That's what the whole thing was. He's not going
to show the belt until somebody beats him for the belt.
That's just like I'm saying, Okay, you said something about
you said, you said that Monet has elevated the the
(57:19):
TVs title the last time. When's the last time she
defended it in an a w ring that wasn't a
pay per view. It's been gone as long as the
world title has been gone.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
She's defendit it three times.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Try to go there, who's allowed? When's allowed?
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Who's the last opponent she defended it on TV against
She's definditive the last two pay per views and in Japan.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Because you're saying, you're saying it is the same, it
is the same. You can't. You can't tell me that
anybody if you except for you, Okay, you can't tell
me that anybody. I've never heard anybody except for you,
(58:12):
saying anything about that TBS title like you just did.
I get that you don't like Mercedes money.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
I mean, I have a problem with someone having four
titles that does not defend them.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
She hasn't.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
She's had all four titles for almost two weeks. She
hasn't had a title offense. She hasn't defended one of
her her AW title in AW excepted a pay per
view since she got it. And you said earlier that
that's a open challenge.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Title match, title shot.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
She hasn't given anybody an open title The last person
she defended against was in the match in Japan. She
hasn't given anybody a shot at it. She's done nothing
to help the women division. The women's division has been
building herself without her as insane, okay.
Speaker 5 (59:07):
And so she gave her title and yes tonight she said,
who wants a title shot?
Speaker 2 (59:12):
And she gave and somebody said, I want the title shot,
and she said no, because she shouldn't matter if you
want something or not. If you get challenged to the title,
you got a shot. That was that's the way the
title is supposed to work, Okay. So if it's not,
if she's not gonna give you know, okay, if if
(59:33):
Statlander says she wants to wrestle for it again, they're
gonna give the title shot to Statlander. Harley Cameron is
one of the hottest people in the women's division right now.
She's getting a good push. She's been having some great matches. Yeah,
she hasn't won a match, but she's not in that
place yet. But as soon as she gets a challenge
that she doesn't think is good enough for her. She says, no,
(59:53):
that's not an open challenge belt. That means that she
controls who she wants to wrestle, and she's not giving
anybody a chance.
Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Things like that T n T title where where you
don't you can give it toever you want it and
it depends on who has a title.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
But it's but you are you are so wrong on this.
It's it's all I'm just like, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Well, like I said, you guys keep talking about you
wanted to have women's division get better, and it is
getting better. But it has nothing to do with Mercedes
because she's not been on TV in any kind of matter.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
So much. I'm not saying it's not everything to do
with Mercedes, but has so much to do with Mercedes.
You're hated.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
The women's division was growing and getting better based on
what Tony Storm and Riah May and those girls were
doing before she came in. She came in, she was
given a title. She didn't defend it very well. She
hasn't defended it, but maybe four or five times. Stantlander
defended that title every freaking week when she had it.
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Even Jake Cargile, who was terrible, defended it every week.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Mercedes isn't defending.
Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
It every week now it every week and she was
terrible at it, but.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
She defended it on TV. She actually had people challenge
her on TV. That Lander same way when she got
a challenge she took on the j.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
There is no comparison whatsoever between when Julia Hard had
the TBS Championship, when Chris Statlander had the Chris TBS
Championship and what uh Jake Cargile when she had the
GBS Championship compared to Mercedes Money in the TBS Championship,
Mercedes Money is the single best.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Uh even close, not even close.
Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Yes she is. She's the attraction.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
She's attraction. I have no problem.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Because they don't hear for it. The problem is y'all
get this bias against all these people and you want
to put people in a position. You're doing the same
thing Tony Kahn did when she came in. You make
her out to be this great wrestler and she's not.
She's given matches, she shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Win way way way Because now you're just talking out
your ass. God, yeah you are go back and because
you said everybody and you said all and you said,
you all go back and listen to our podcast when
Mercedes Man they came in. I said that her matches
were terrible and she was tripping over her tongue. She
couldn't do a promo right. Yes, she has grown, she's
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gotten comfortable. She could do a promo now, okay. And
I think that she's also had some of the In
her last five matches, three of them are are arguably
the best women's matches that they've had in a W
or anywhere. I mean, one of her matches was called
probably her match against Azuki was called probably the best
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women's match on ever done on United States soil. I mean,
if there's anybody that is biased, it's you. You hated
everybody in the women's division.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Since I don't hate anybody in the women's division.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
The only two wrestlers I can only go by what
you say on these podcasts and check it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
You're wrong, because I don't hate anybody. The only two
wrestlers I've ever hated in WW and AW were Jay
Cargio and britt Baker Thore. The only two I hate
because they're.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Horrible, that all the women are worthless and AW.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I've never said that I've never one time said that.
You go back and find a clip of me saying that,
and you show me that clip, and I believe you.
Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
But I never said that. I never said the women
in a w rere worthless.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I had to cut the whole section out of a
podcast because you kept saying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I never said the women in AW were worthless. I've
never said that. I've never said about any wrestler that
they were worthless.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
The minute segment out of a podcast is what I'm saying.
As you can accuse us of using bias on Mercedes Monette,
I personally, in my opinion, you know, I respect your opinion.
In my opinion, Mercedes Money is the best TBS champion
that AW has ever had. I mean not saying that
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the others were bad. I'm just saying that Mercedes right
now is the best. She has definitely made it the
most visible championship in AW right now. I am sorry.
I mean not only the the TBS championship, but all
the other belts that she has there. She's going She's
not only defending them in the ring all over the world,
She's defending she's going on talk shows and everything else
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with the belts draped around her. She's an ambassador, uh
and otherwise is I mean, she is what AEW is
needed for so long, you know. And things are getting better,
not only in the women's the vision because of what
Mercedes Monet is doing, because she's the one that is
championing getting more women's stories in there, you know. Honestly,
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I mean, I'm going to say this to you, Frankly,
if it wasn't for Mercedes Money, I really don't think
that the whole Tony Storm thing would have gotten too
much of a shot.
Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
I think she's really brought out something better.
Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Because it was going on for six to eight months
before Mercedes came in. Tony Storm's whole thing started the
summer before that.
Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Tony Storm's whole.
Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Thing with Mariah was going on for at least six
months before Mercedes came in, and it was the best
thing going in adw In storyline ever.
Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
Before coming though it was once in a while later on.
Now it's at least two segments of show, and it's
became the center of attention.
Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Now, Abkay is right something? I'm sorry, You're wrong, You're wrong,
You're you're you're just wrong. I mean, I'm not gonna
try to be respectful, but I'm not gonna sit there
and go, ah, when you're wrong, you're wrong on this bell.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
She has turned aw upside down and has put it
on the map. People talk about her more than they
talk about Mariam, and I love Mariam, but people don't
know her as well. And she's became an interaction and
she's and she's gone all over the world and Japan
and showed up and had the Stephanie a cur several
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people she has helped out, and I'm really hoping she
puts over you know, a lot more because she deserves it.
And whoever beats her is gonna be a megastar.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Exactly. And I personally think that will probably be Chris
Statlander for the DBS Championship because Chris Statlanders o and
two against her and had tremendous matches against her, and
I believe that that it's leading up to that, uh,
And I think that's what Mercedes wants to have happening.
You know. I think that Mercedes has a lot of
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a lot of pull as far as she and I
really do see that she is doing everything she can.
I mean, just look at where she's going where she's
traveling to with these interviews that she's doing, and she'll
talk to anybody. She's doing so much work out there,
you've you've got to give her her flowers. And again,
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when she first came into the JAW I when I
was very vocal about how unimpressed I was. I was
very unimpressed. We all were.
Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
But she's grown and she has.
Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
You got to give her a credit.
Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
Yeah, she's grown a lot. She she is mild ahead
of where she was because she was used to the
WWE style of being programmed and your and your stuff
done for you, and now she's found her own personality.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
She definitely has done that. I mean, I don't have
a problem with her, say Mona, you know, and it
is what it is. I mean. But uh So, we'll
be back on Tuesday night for Ignition and we'll be
talking about some more of the hot topics in aw
and the world of professional wrestling. Until then, This is
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Kelson for the aw FAD Podcast Team. I said it right.
Tonight was last night. I literally all over my tongue
like Mercedes Money on a Wednesday night. That's something I
used to say a lot back in the day when
Mercedes Monet came into the aw because she was so
bad on the mic. But anyway, that's a show for tonight.
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Hope you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoyed Dynamite. Good night everybody, now, y'all,
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