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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for
all the talk with the aw fan Hub podcast team.
This is Kelson and tonight MK is joining me. How
you doing, MK? All Right, Well, we just saw aw
Dynamite from c word Ville, Alabama. I can't believe Mariah
(00:29):
May said that. Uh geez, so edgy. Anyway, let's just
get right into the review. We have some stuff to
talk about. I'm gonna be honest with you. I kind
of felt that this was kind of an off episode
of Dynamy.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It wasn't great.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, it wasn't bad. I'm just saying it just didn't
have the It had the flow at some moments, but
I think it just didn't have like the moment. It
just didn't have it, you know what I mean. It
was just there. It seemed like a house show almost
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to me.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I didn't see much storyline, and it's a little too
death writer heavy. I think they're trying to push that
a little bit too much and it killed the episode.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I mean we talked about the death writers that
close up that Rede Piquette did last night. Did you
happen to catch that? Other than with the show tonight?
Did you see the entire close up.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
No, I just wasn't interested in it. Maybe I should.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, you know, that's a that's really a look. I
thought it was a very very good close up, to
be honest with you. I think it had some really
good information in it. But my entire thought watching the
whole thing was, Man, I wish they would have done
this three three months ago when it mattered, because people
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are just not I mean, go look at the views
on it. I mean, at least last night, it wasn't moving,
it wasn't moving anywhere. I just think it's to the
point where people either like the death Writers or they don't,
and anything they do from here on out isn't going
to make people stand up and say, hey, look here's
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what we've got, you know, and we're gonna come and
watch it now. No, it's it's too late that live
to need Yeah yeah, break really bad?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, God yeah, well well you are to for some reason.
So maybe it's my hand. Look, they should have started
with the whole John Mosley promo from the beginning, saying
I am the title and stuff like that, then maybe
I would have gotten it. Not not where we get
we're we're shaking out the week week parts and stuff
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like that. I just really, you know, and they want
to start out with that maybe maybe they could have
saved this, but it just hasn't and I don't care
to care to watch any of them. I'm I got
a death writer hangover, and honestly, I'm tired of seeing
them on TV. And tonight was heavy, heavy, heavy death writers.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh I get it. I mean usually, I mean I
try to watch, I really do, but for whatever reason,
I find myself zoning out.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I just I.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Just zone out because I think it's just a little
bit too much. But let's get into Dynamite. This is
gonna be a short episode of all of the talk
I feel, because there really wasn't a whole lot to
talk about. We started out with UH Brian Cage versus
will Osprey in a decent match that had a lot
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of the don Kallis family in it. It was kind
of like, okay, great, UH got five don Kallas members
and will Osbury and then eventually Kenny Omega, so the
math didn't add up. I'm sorry I called the outcast
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effect because that's what happened with the outcast. What is
it with the aw baby paces being blering, freaking idiots
all the time. Get some allies for God's sake.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, they're gonna have to figure out who else is
going to be involved in this. I don't know who.
Who they'll get. Maybe Buddy Matthews will help. Maybe.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I was literally for most of the show, I was
waiting for Buddy Matthews and Brody King to come out,
and they never did.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, so I think those people would would help. You know,
they got to have somebody to help along with his
I don't know, I don't know who, but it's but
you know, they fought, they had a good they had
a good match. I'm letting Brian Cage in his role.
He doesn't have to win, but he makes people look
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good in doing it, and I'm loving just him and
him and the callis Family is really helping him.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah. Well, I do hope that eventually Brian Cage gets
his flowers and not just some kind of throwaway, you know,
belt where he has it for a week or whatever,
two weeks. I hope that actually it's something out of this,
whether it's an aw or a ring of honor. I
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really do. But I think that he I've said it
before and I'll say it again that he's a consumptor professional.
He takes care of his opponents. I mean, there's nobody
really that I see that's better in AW and I
mean this is a ultimate compliment to Brian Cage. He
takes care of his opponents. You could see how he
protects his opponents on every move that he does, and
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he still makes it look good.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And that's hard to do, Yeah, especially when you're a
big guy.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They talked a lot about his athleticism and his power,
but he's he just has the look and he and
he you know, that's how Brett Hart was. He protected
his opponents even though he was listing physically trying to
beat the crap at it. He knew how to protect
him and that's what a lot of aw's can learn from.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, well, I do want to move on because this
was a segment that I found really interesting. And this
was Renee Piquette standing outside of Swerve Strickland's dressing room door,
you know, and looking for Swerve and hangman Adam Page
kind of barges by opens the door and says he's
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not there. And I thought that that was interesting. Why
would hangman Adam Page be looking for Swart Clinton.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, that kind of got blowed over a little bit,
But I thought that was the most interesting segment of
the night. Honestly, it was intriguing. Yeah, I was interested.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't know what to expect out of that. Maybe
there's two or two. Maybe he's churning face a little.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Bit, but that's the thing. Maybe he wanted to just
talk to Swerve and maybe apologize and work toward uh that,
maybe not even apologized, but work toward.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Hey, we got to We've got to join together.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm hoping at least.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Someone noticed on Blue Sky that his Twitter that his
banner used to be flaming with flames and now it's
down to embers, And I think that's kind of cool
of Hangman to do that. Kind of.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, Hangman did announce, I guess a couple of days
ago that he left Instagram. So he's no longer on Instagram,
he's no longer on Twitter X. He's only on Blue
Sky and Spotify. I think he's on I think he
does something on Spotify. But one of the other things
about that segment is that when Hangman Adam Paige left
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to go in search I assume of of swear Strickland.
He kind of brushed by MJF who was coming around
the corner, and that led seamlessly into an MJF talking
to Renee Piquette and I kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, I geah, that was kind of pretty small and stupid,
but yeah, and yeah, that really helped. But I think
there's there's gonna be some feud here soon with.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Those two.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Later.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't think that's had much of anything between the
two besides when looking for the Devil, So I'll be
interesting if they actually do a few between the two
of those guys.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right, Yeah, And and then we went right into a
powerhouse Hobbs big Net, you know, with him saying that
he's not cleared to wrestle after the attack by Big Bill,
which I liked because I think that aw has had
a little bit of an issue with somebody getting the
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snot beat out of them and they come back like
there's nothing wrong soon. I like that. I I don't
know about you, but whatever. At the end of the
Big Debt Powerhouse, Hobbses sat there and looked at the
camera and snarled, and I just burst out laughing because
I just I just love that. You know, I don't
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know what it is, but it's snarl as just so
b It's so menacing, but it's bad at the same
time because he looks like a pussy cat. Yes, he
looks like it looks like he's the nicest guy in
the world.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
M hmm, yeah, you know, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I didn't see much, but I've heard it was pretty
good and their backstage was pretty good. Watch it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, I mean the basically at the very beginning of
the show, near the beginning of the show, uh, Powerhouse,
Hobbs was waiting for Well, maybe I got that wrong. Anyway,
they had said on Dynamite last week that they were
going to wait for each other in the parking lot,
and that's exactly what they did. They beat the snot
out of each other in the parking lot. Then they
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beat the snout of them out of each other later
in the show too, you know, so I like that.
So then we move on to Claudio Cascanoli against Jeff Jarrett,
and look, I appreciate the effort. I thought it was
a fairly decent match, but just again, it was the
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death Writers, Uh death writers. Wheeler Yuda was out there there,
John Moxley was out there.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I I don't understand why Moxley had to come out
and cheat when Claudio should be big and bad enough
to handle himself. I know they're trying to work on
something where they make it. You know, they cheated a
group and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But yeah, I mean, if it takes three guys to
beat a fifty five year old man, then the death
writers are definitely not working. I mean, I get what
you're saying there. Yeah, I this match, it was a
decent match. It was the longer went on, it just
didn't make any sense whatsoever what they did at the end.
I'm sorry, but it was stupid. It was unnecessary. And
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then of course you had MGF come out and I
was like, thank god he only hit them with the
dynamite diamond ring you know, said I told you so
without saying I told you so and left, you know,
because if they had any more to that, it'd have
been like this is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, it did its purpose, and I don't know where
the Jeff Jurett thing will go be on that what
is always gonna be simme the MJF.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't see anything too big going on with that.
I'm kind of tired of it, right, people are already
tired of it.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, Well, it's kind of weird having somebody that's arguably
one of the biggest stars in AW talking about MJF languishing, languishing,
just languishing in this. He has no feud, I mean,
and I don't think that if you pulled a thousand
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AW fans and ask them who would you like to
see m j AFF in a feud with? Even today,
knowing what's going on, I don't think anybody would say
I want to see him in a feud with Jeff Jarrett,
you know. And that's nothing against Jeff Jarrett, but Mjf's
the future. Jeff Jarrett is not. You know. I'm trying
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to be respectful, but that's just the way I feel.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So sorry. Yeah, yeah, I agree with myself. Uh yeah,
I agree Jeff. I don't know what they're gonna do
beyond this. I don't know what. It baffles me really
why they're doing this retirement toward you know, and why
they couldn't have waited a little bit and doing it
doing it a year now, It didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, it just seems to me like Jeff Jarrett should
be feuding with somebody older, you know, something that there's
a stakes. Hey, let's have a match, the loser retires
or something to that effect. You know where it's realistically,
you know, if they have let's just say, for example,
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if we have a match between m JF and Jeff
Jarrett and the stipulation is the loser retires, you know
that MJF is not going to lose that match. Yeah,
what I mean, it's kind of obvious even without the stipulation.
You know that Jeff Jared is not going to beat
m JF. And if he does, there's something really wrong
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with that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. It's interesting. I know
MJF is a historian, and I know that he probably
wanted this viewt and to help out in the way.
But I just, like I said before, I don't see
where it's going, and lots of people on social media
are tired of it and wanted off their TV. So
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I kind of go back because it's two in a row.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
But yeah, well, you know, I think that's kind of
where a W is right now because what they do
that's good. They're very, very good. And what they do,
that's they're stubbornly optimistic about things that people know isn't
going to work. And Jeff Jarrett thing is not something
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that's going to gain a lot of interest out of
the Deep South. I'm sorry, but it's not. And you know,
and it's kind of wasting MJF. It's and Jeff Jarrett
has rustled for how many decades. He doesn't need to
be put over at fifty five years old, right now,
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he's done. Everything's already done to get over.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, mid South type of thing because he's from the
southern area. Maybe they're trying to bring in fans who
know Jeff Jarrett and bring them to the TV because
he is still getting chance of double J and stuff
like that. But I think a lot of people are
just worn out from it and just don't really care
for it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
This is what I'm saying is not a slight against
Jeff Jarrett. I think he's terrific. My thing is putting
a fifty five year old man against a young again
arguably the biggest star in a w It's not doing
anything for MJF at all. And I don't think it's
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doing anything for Jeff Jaredt. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's just filler, and I'm you know, I'd rather see
him going in a much MJF in a much bigger storyline.
I know he wants to go after mox but he's
he's gonna buy his time, kind of like Christian's doing
because he knows it's going to be a tough fight
to get that off the bill.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So yeah, But when it comes to John Moxley and
the death Writers as a whole, they aw cannot afford
to bide their time with guys like m JF. They
got to put them out there because the Death Writer's
story and I'm sorry people are are some people do
like it, but the Death Writer story needs to end.
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And the sooner it ends, the better. I mean, it's
doing nothing for a w it is at this point.
I really do believe it's losing fans.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I would be interested in getting a faint on here
who absolutely loves this and letting them talk about it,
because our group, I don't think I've seen anyone in
our the pole who have I know, sentence on the
fence about it, But I just I don't see it
a lot. I know there are small groupings, but there's
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just not anybody and and I'm afraid that it's going
to go on to all in and it shouldn't, but.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's going to go on until Eddie Kingston comes back.
And that makes even more of no sense to me. Yeah, yeah,
it just I mean, it doesn't. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's
every every possible outcome other than I made a joke,
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you know, say that they're gonna wake up tomorrow. It
was all a dream. That is like the perfect ending
to this story, that it was all a dream. And
because I just can't think of an outcome that's satisfying
and satisfying that personally I want to see.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, well, you know, I love hang Man. There's things
going around they want hang Man to do, but he's
had a chance, So I don't see how you get
back around the Hangman.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, Hangman, Orange, Cassidy, Jay White, they've all had a chance.
You're right, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And you know, because he mentioned a mountain to night
and promo, I don't know if that or whatever, And
I don't know how long he's gonna take on Mount
Everest to do it. I hope he takes Mount ever seriously, enough.
But uh, you know, I don't think they're rushing this. Yeah,
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I'm worried.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean they've already announced FTR, you know, skipping a
little bit of ahead. They're already announced FTR against job
Boxley and Wheeler DA on Collision.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And I'll say what I've said before about this kind
of match. I hope it's the main event so I
can go to better early because I have no intention
of watching that match. It's a stupid match. I'm sorry,
it just is. It doesn't Death Writers are just not interesting.
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They're sorry.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
This this rated FTR, which I don't have a problem with.
Cope and I don't have a problem with FTR, But
what's the purpose of this besides waiting and waiting and waiting.
It's all they're doing. And people keep on saying, turn
the page, wait for it, patients, patients, patience. But I
don't think the pandom has much more patience.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
For well, well the look, this is the best way.
And I've said this before and I and I'll say
it again. I went to a dynamite in October. It
was the dynamite that the Death Writers came out and
they smashed I believe Isaiah Cassidys hand with the hammer.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah right, yeah, how was it October?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It's February now by the time next Dynamite comes up,
it's gotta be February. And so you're talking that many
months ago and nothing has happened. There's nothing new, there's
absolutely it's the same thing week after week after week.
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I've said before, it feels like that. It feels like
that movie Groundhog Day where you wake up and you
just repeat the same thing again and again, you know,
with minute different and you know, I was oddly show
up until this point.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, oddly enough. They they people were saying that Collision
was so good because death writers weren't on it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It was it was very good because death writers weren't
on it. Yeah, I have some effect.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, so I don't. I don't know. It's probably Tony
Storms part ahead iness, I don't know, or John Moxley
just won't let this die. I don't or just lack
of programming. I don't know what it is, but there
has to be something in Tony's brain that switches to say,
maybe people are right, maybe we need to pivot something different.
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But I do not see that happening with Tom. I
don't what you.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Mentioned earlier, you know, in your initial thoughts that you
thought that the show was a little death riders heavy
or a lot of death writers. Look when space the
fact you had Claudio Casagioli death writer against, you have Jarrett,
later on you had Wheeler Utah in a match. Uh.
And and then of course, uh, you had the how
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many times did the death writers come out? Did the fear? Uh?
Because every match they came out. They came out during
the jarant And and Jarrett and Castagnoi match, they came
out during the White and Wheeler you to match, basically
doing the same thing in both of those matches. And
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then of course you had you know, it was a
short uh snippet of the close up with Renee Piquette,
but they showed that why are you spend it so
much time on something that's sold? God damn uninteresting? Yeah,
it's predictable.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Online online. It's called t w and as creative game
for booking for for wrestling, And if you booked the
same person over and over again, they have a little
thing that comes up said they are too oversaturated. And
that's what reminded me of tonight is is they're too oversaturated,
they're on TV too much, and maybe they're making up
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for lost time on Collision. I don't know, but uh.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean you you said you did watch Collision.
Collision was by far a much better show than Dynamite
one is this week. I mean Collision of flow to
it really did. Uh So let's go on. We had
Ricitet backstage talking and then of course we had the
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Ricochet match versus a ar Box with uh. I thought
it was pretty effective the way Ricochet. I mean, we
all knew Ricorchet was going to win this match, but
I thought it was effective that once were did come out,
Ricochet had the scissors and was basically holding uh ar
Fox hostage is a as a shield old against Swerve.
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I thought that was yeah, pretty pretty good. I thought
that was good.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, I'm enjoying Ricochet. Moore is a heel than I'm
enjoying m J as a heel. Uh you know, he
plays it very well, and like I said before, I
wouldn't have known it from his WWE run how good
he could actually be. You know, I don't put that
out there. I don't want to go talk too much
on that, but I like what he's doing he's doing
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it good and this and this is going to be
a good feud for for next week. Uh really a
SHOWO to build a ring? Sorry, I managed to build
around to put on the show, so I'm interested.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, So moving on. Uh, we had Chris Jericho the
Learning Tree. I'm out doing New York minute now. Normally
I really enjoy the New York minutes. This one just
missed me. I mean, I guess you can't be on
every week, and but I really do enjoy the New
York minutes.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I had a chuckle with a roll toad that made
me laugh, but other than that, it did he did,
he just looked. He's so good at those little stupid
jokes that aren't that funny, but it just pops me.
And I don't know why, but he's he's a funny
guy and it gets the point over And Big Bill
(25:35):
is I think doing a slow face face turn, extremely
slow faced turn. But it was funny.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, I mean, Big Bill is the uh the foil
that even when he's doing well, he still can't manage
to do anything right, you know, and pretty soon he's
gonna get fed up. It's as simple as that. And
I agree with you. There Uh. Then we had Jay
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White versus Wheel or you, and I really don't see
any reason why to talk about this match because we've
already talked about casting Goli and Jeff Charritt and there
was really no difference.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, it was a good moments though, it was a
better match. I think it made You'd actually looked strong
and you know, his body work and working on the
legs and stuff like that, so they're trying to make
you a thing. He doesn't look like a emo lama
at as much tonight of it last week, so that
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they're trying to improve him. Maybe he ends up the
affecting eventually, because they really didn't help him all that
much tonight extept when he was going to go for
his third uh sling blade.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah, I again, the match was the match was better
than the Castle than Jared match, Ah, but the ending
was not.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
The ending was lame. And I don't know if maybe
aw is like, hey, go out there and waste some
time because we're running too, we're running short. It just
didn't It just didn't make any sense to me to
do what they did. I mean again, you just did it,
you know, thirty minutes ago. You just did the same
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thing that you did this time, you know, and it
just makes it just looks bad. I'm sorry. I mean,
I don't want to be one of those I don't
want listeners say, oh, there's Kelson and he hates the
Death Riders and they're never going to do anything that
pleases him. Well, yeah, to be fair, you guys, anybody
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who says that maybe right, However, they haven't done anything
that's really pleased me.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
No, and you definitely want ie at Tons all over,
read it all over Blue Sky. People just aren't feeling
it now.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
You know. There are people that do, and there are
people that are have demonstrated a lot more patients than
I'm willing to give. But when something as missing the
mark as consistently as this is, and again that close
up thing that they did, I really do encourage people
to go watch it, because man, if they had just
done that three months ago and then actually did something
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different week to week insistent, it may have worked. I
don't know of the Brian May came out and she
had actually said something a couple of weeks ago on
social media saying that she really wanted to get out
(28:54):
in front of the fans instead of doing all over
her talking backstage in a tape set man, And yeah,
she's been doing that. And I thought she did a
really good job. It was just her out there with
her scowling face, you know. And uh I I didn't
have a problem with with her interview on the ramp,
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you know, I thought that she she did well. Bet
sword thing was probably not the brightest thing to do.
Uh And and it didn't really get over but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I guess I didn't catch that part. But she does
a good job by her her lole. She on the mic,
whether you know, I don't know. She was complaining that
she wasn't in ring promo, but I always usually see
her in what they call the Oakland position, So I
don't see why she's complaining that she's not. I don't.
(29:54):
I don't understand the gride. I guess I.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Kind of do, because you know, so when you have
you want to make a name for yourself, and even
if you're backstage and doing a segment live, it still
comes off as being taped. You know, you've got to
be able. It's one thing to be backstage and talking
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to a camera than it is to be out there
and talking to the camera and the fans as well.
And I get it. I mean, when you have somebody
like that wants to do it and wants to grow
as not only a wrestler, but as a character, you
want to be given the opportunities to do it where
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you can present yourself in a more creative way. And
so I thought that on Collision she had her opportunity,
and on Dynamite tonight she had her opportunity, and I
thought that she proved herself capable. Yeah, very capable of
doing it. So I like your.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Reactions on Collision to point that out she had. She
has good facial expressions when when Thomas Tony Storm came out,
and uh, I taught her for that.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Look.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
She's young, she's holding up a women's division along with
Mercedes Monet, which we'll get to later, and she's able
to do it on a level that a lot of
people have not figured out how to do it. So
I will give her major props for the way she's
handled herself.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah. Then we had a segment that I actually thought
was really interesting, was just a vignette with Austin Colton
gun just working out. Apparently they're back or soon to
be back, and of course, we had Max Caster and
Anthony Bowen's split up. Uh we have Jay White who's
(32:00):
obviously turned babyface. Uh So, does this mean that Austin
and Colton Gunn are going to be sticking with Jay
White as baby faces? Of course Juice Robinson is out
right now. Uh so, yes, It's it's just interesting, I
mean the dynamic because with Max Caster and Anthony Bowen's
(32:23):
broken up, does that mean there's a possibility for Daddy
asked to rejoin the ass Boys for a final run?
As you know, again, he's an older guy that you know,
you know, I think that I think it's important that
he that he gets back with his sons before his
(32:43):
aw run is over, you know, and he's not getting
any younger, So why not do it now not wait
till later, you know. And I just think it would
be a good idea. I mean, they don't.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Really need me, they how they Yeah, yeah, I agree.
It's really needs to meet how the gun Club has
become went from heels to faces. And and Steffan really
came along because I loved I noticed on the little
vignette that on the radio when they were playing on
(33:22):
the radio in the car that had many men on there.
The song that they used to coming out to that
there one entrance that was really really good. I noticed
that that's a little easter.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, I didn't catch that well, you know. And then
we had another little viguette, which was the vendetta backstage
talking about Harley Cameron. Harley Cameron cost the out of Parazzo, uh,
the match that would have had the out of Parazzo
facing Mercedes Monette tonight. And so they called out the
(33:57):
out of Parazzo. I mean they called out Harley Cameron,
uh for collision, which I mean I think what I
said this last night, what they should do is have
I have Valkyrie versus Harley Cameron on collision. They've got
to get Harley Cameron into Grand Slam somehow. They don't
(34:21):
need to have her go against Mercedes monea Grand Slam.
I don't think that's a good idea. But I would
not mind her seeing seeing Harley Cameron versus Diatta Parozzo.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I really do. She's a huge asset to where she
at right now. She's funny, people want to see her.
She's the talk of social media, and she needs to
cut her teeth a little bit at a big event,
and I think this is one.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
She Yeah, you're you're breaking up a little bit again,
So I'm gonna talk over you here if you're still talking.
But anyway, for me, Harley Cameron is the women's equivalent
of Commander in that Commander last year had more losses
(35:16):
than any man in the men's division, and Harley Cameron
had more losses than any woman in the women's division.
Look what happened with Commander last year. At the end
of last year, he took the Rig of Honor World
TV Championship and it was well deserved. And Harley Cameron's
on that same kind of ascension, I guess, is the
(35:39):
best way to put it. I do believe that Harley
Cameron could possibly step into Rig of Honor and beat
Red Velvet for the Women's TV Championship. Why not?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
However, However, the only problem with that is is that
you don't want to take somebody like Commander, and you
don't want to take somebody off of like Harley Cameron
off aw TV either.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, you know so very much.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, Commander had a match against Okada on Collision. You know,
it was a non title match, but and it's and
it's fine having two title holders go at it in
a non title match, but it was a really fun match. Yeah,
it was a really entertaining match, you know. And uh,
(36:33):
that's one of the things I think that I can
say about Collision is compared to Dynamite is that Collision
was entertaining and Dynamite tonight just didn't feel entertaining to me.
It wasn't bad, you know. I don't want to say
that it was bad. I'm just saying that it just
was missing something fun. And maybe it was because it
(36:56):
was too death right or heavy, I don't know, but yeah,
you know. So then we get to the main event,
Mercedes Bonet against Yukaza Kazaki, and look, I don't think
anybody expected yu Kazakazaki to win this match, which kind
of made it kind of an anticlimactic main event. I
(37:18):
think what they with AW needs to do is for
their main events, they need to put something that is
less predictable, I guess is the best way to put it.
The match got off to a little bit of a
slow start. I thought that it was a little bit sloppy.
I really felt that that was pretty much on yu Kazakazaki.
(37:41):
I think that Mercedes Bone had a good match. I
just think that Yuka had she missed a couple of spots.
She was not fluid at the beginning of the match,
but toward the middle of the match, they both were
nailing it. There's no way to put it. I thought
that it was a really fun match, you know. I
(38:04):
thought that yu Kazakazaki looked tough. I there was a
glaring uh well on she went for the magical splash.
Uh I would have preferred that she actually hit it,
that Mercedes didn't raise her knees. Uh And then maybe
maybe the momentum moved Mercedes into the ropes, you know,
(38:27):
closer to the rope, so that that was how she
got the break and saved herself from the pinfall. Because
it it seemed like everything that Sakazaki was doing try
to finish the match wasn't working, you know. And uh
I loved her counter on the moneymaker, by the way,
where she just flipped right out of it landed on
(38:48):
her feet. I thought that was really good.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I was kind of interested and
why they chose Sakazaki to even have that have that match,
because I think it was kind of predictable. I wanted.
I was cheering for you Deana Parrazzo to be the
one to fight her tonight. But I could see why
I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't know. I would have had.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Seen that match because I know those two can go
and it would have been a cooler match. But maybe
they're saving that for a different time.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I don't know. Well, I have a theory about that.
Let's face it, Mercedes Monet is not the biggest woman
in the world, and in the AAW landscape, there are
a lot of there's a lot of tall women in AAW.
(39:37):
I mean, you know, you look at it. Mercedes Monde
is what did she maybe five three five four, you know,
and she's not like she's not a hefty woman either,
you know, so she doesn't weigh that much, whereas like,
I mean, even look at Julia Hart, she's five seven weighs,
you know, one hundred and fifty pounds. Know, even though
(40:00):
she looks tiny, she's not. Yeah, you know, so you
know you that you got. I mean, she's already had
two terrific matches against Chris Statlander, so it's not that
she can't do the matches against the bigger women. Mercedes
Bonet is absolutely capable, but they take their toll. So
(40:21):
this was a nice match for her half where she
some athleticism and not really have to worry about heavy
lifting because Yu Kazakizaki is the type of person who
is athletic enough to do the flippies and stuff like
that that Mercedes Boudet is known for.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, and they really sold her four times tonight. I
want to point that out too. They're really selling her
dripping in gold as they called it. Uh and he
pointed the south Side title and all of the other
ones too.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You're right, I mean yeah, I mean, look, you know,
I've said it before and I'll say it that I'm
not a big fan of any person holding more than
one belt. I just kind of think it's one. I
just kind of think it's wasteful. Yeah, you know, but
Mercedes Modet is doing a good job with it. I
mean you can't yeah, I mean, you can't discount the
(41:19):
fact that she's wrestling all over the place defending these belts.
He's been the Japan, she's been the Mexico, she's been
all over the United States. I think she was a
wasn't she had London. I'm not sure she was in London.
But she's doing the job and plus with all the
(41:40):
gold that she has, she's on the Sherry Shepherd Show,
she's on newscast, she's at conventions, she's having fun. She's
out there doing exactly what she said she was going
to do back in business in Boston, and that was
to make not only the women's division in AW but
a W a W itself a global global brand. And
(42:04):
she's been a pretty good, you know, ambassador for that
and I respect that, I really do. Now they just
need to get some one, one or two of those
belts off of her.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah yeah, I'll who how her downfall happens will be
will be really unasking to meet.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Well, we talked about it last night. I'm interested to
maybe get your thoughts on this because we did talk
about it last night. Is Who's who's the next you know,
viable challenger for Mercedes Monette. Uh. We talked about that
with Tony Storms, so we can talk about it tonight
with Mercedes Monette. I think.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I really would like she she could really in my opinion,
I know she hasn't debuted, but she's a star. She
looks the part, and I know we've seen her, you know,
none of the stat lander, But who else do you
really have among the lower ranks that could take that
title of her besides.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
The Yeah yeah, yeah, Ada is a good name. I
do think that that is something that probably Aw would
be smart to do in the futures, explore aena coming
after the TBS title. H I said before that I
didn't think that she was going to win it, but
(43:32):
I do believe that when Mercedes Bonette came in at
Big Business, the first person he had in confrontation with
was Julia Hart. When Julia Hart was the TBS champion.
I still believe that the initial uh plan was perhap
Mercedes take the belt off of Julia Hart, but because
of Julia's injury, it had to be Willow and then
(43:54):
because it just made sense for Willow that then go
after have a feud with Mercedes. So it was it
was a fortunate booking, easy booking for that, you know.
But yeah, like I said, I wouldn't have a problem
with Julia Hart being a feud for Mercedes Bonett. But
(44:14):
I just don't think that Julia Hart is gonna beat Mercedes. Yeah,
Megan Bain is interesting. I don't think that she's proven
herself yet aw enough to even get that chance. Uh,
of course we've da even mentioned it. Tonight, Harley Cambrin
has been calling out Mercedes Monette. That would be interesting.
(44:35):
Uh you know, I I really, I really would like
to see Chris Statlander Mercedes Bonette have more matches, but
just not right now. I don't want it to want
that to be overdone. But I thoroughly enjoyed those matches.
I'm sure Willow and Mercedes gonna have terrific matches again.
I just don't want to see that right now. I
(44:57):
think they need to save that, you know. I mean,
Dianna Prazzo another great game that that can do that. Look,
I mean here's the here's the problem that you're ready
in to. Uh, some of these women that we're mentioning,
(45:18):
like Chris Statlander, Willow Nightingale. We mentioned last night, what's
next for Tony Storm after Maria A. You know, some
of these women need to be going after Tony Storm
if or Miriam whoever wins the wins this championship match
because they can't do Tony Storm and Maria may you know,
until all in because that would just get get tedious.
(45:43):
They need to take a break from that and come
back to it. Have Mariah May feud with somebody else,
Have Tony Storm feud with somebody else, you know, because
it's because then it can it can get kind of
short sighted that they just continued down the same path
for the better part of a full year, you know.
So that's not what AW does. And I just think
(46:04):
it would be interesting to see who else they could
both feud with. I guess another name to throw out there,
and this is something that Mercedes Bonette beat Midna shi
Kawa at Russell Dynasty and then media sure Kala immediately
challenged her again. So that's another name that could that
(46:25):
could happen. So it's just interesting, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
So that's why I'd arrange people if they can go
after But eventually it's going to have to happen. I
don't know. I mean, that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Well anyway, Well that is our AW Dynamite review. Again. Uh.
If I had to grade this, I would probably give
it a B minus. I thought what they did that
worked was good, but it just wasn't entertaining.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, I give it a C plus. It felt like
a pill or not like I said before, but it
wasn't terrible.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, let me rephrase that. I'll get me to say
that it wasn't entertaining. It wasn't as entertaining as last
week's Dynamite or this place either. So they have something
to do with the Death Writers. I don't know. I
(47:27):
don't want to come down on the death Writers, but yeah,
I mean when you look at a two hour show
and you had three Death Writers segments on there where
they basically just repeat, repeated what's already been shown. Yeah,
there's nothing new happened to night with the death Writers.
I'm sorry. No, I know that my opinion gets downvoted
(47:50):
on Reddit. I mean, yeah, but it's my it's my
true and honest opinion. I'm not going to change. I
think the Death Writers are boring and they need to
it just needs to end. Yeah, you know, But again,
I'll give this a B minus because I thought what
they did. I thought the matches were good, but they
weren't very meaningful, and the story that was attached to
(48:12):
a lot of the matches was not very meaningful. But
they did a good job with what they did. It
just didn't have the impact or the entertainment value I
felt as Dinabite last week con collision. That's it. So anyway,
moving back on Tuesday night for Ignition, where we'd be
(48:34):
talking about some of the hot topics in AW. MK,
thanks for joining tonight. It was good talking to you
and we will see you on Tuesday night at eight
forty five Eastern for Ignition. So for MK, this is Kelson.
(48:55):
Good night, everybody, good night,