AEW Dynamite Review | Luchasaurus & Skye Blue Update

Join the AEW Fan Hub podcast team as we review this week's episode of AEW Dynamite. In addition, we reveal an update on Luchasaurus and Skye Blue, both of whom have been dealing with respective health matters, and have been absent from AEW for several months.

We'd love to hear your opinions on the updates of Luchasaurus and Skye Blue - and also your thoughts on this week's episode of AEW Dynamite!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for
all the Talk with the aw Fat podcast crew. This
is Kelson and we just saw Dynamite from Phoenix, Arizona,
the show that followed a w Grand Slam. But before
we get to our Dynamite review, I want to go

(00:23):
to Shane Dee with some breaking news of sorts.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Go ahead, Shane, I was working very close to toy Hio,
which is a convention that professional wrestlers pretty frequently. You know,
it's kind of like a little convention. So they'll show
up and they'll walk around the floor and they'll do signings,
take pictures, whole nine yards. We had Dan Hausen, we
were supposed to have Ricky Starks. He canceled in the
parking lot we were supposed to have We got sky

(00:51):
Blue instead of Julia Hart. We were supposed to have
Julia Hart. And then we had Lucasaurus. So I got
somebodies that worked for wrestling promotions. So we were hanging
out near their table and Lucasaurus was kind of just
like walking the floor and we a little bit earlier
in the day. It's the same news, but a little
bit in the earlier in the day. I got to
talk to sky Blue for about like five minutes. But

(01:11):
this kind of connects the Lucasaurus thing. So Lucasaurce is
just walking the convention floor and he walks up to
us and he starts talking to us, and I go, hey, man,
you want to talk to me for like twenty minutes,
and he indulged being a couple questions. So of course
the first thing I had to ask was what was
the status of his current injury and when does he
plan in coming back? And I sure as shit he

(01:34):
couldn't have said more quickly, Oh, I'm ready to go,
been benched for the past three months, ready to go.
They just don't have creative for me yet. And funny
thing is, about a half an hour ago prior to this,
sky Blue practically said the same thing, like, hey, you know,
I'm not injured anymore. She pointed to an exhibition she
did with her now fiance sometime around the passing of

(01:58):
the New Year in New York. It was like a
live wrestling thing that they did together, and she was
wrestling and she was in full form an intergenner match
with Kyle Fletcher links on the YouTube after this video,
but I mean that's pretty substantial. We had four people
who have been sitting with aw for the better part

(02:19):
of a year, all at the same convention, one of
them know showing and showing up ten xt a week later,
and then two of the three other three were not
going to count Dan Housen and who was also there
saying that they it's time for them to come back.
So I'll pass it around. Who's got thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
For Shane? Let me just clarify. You said that Lucasaurus
or kill Switch has been ready to go for about
what did you say three and a half months?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Two or three months?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay? And what about time frame? How long is well?
You said that sky Blue was in a match with
Kyle Fletcher around the beginning of the year.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Correct, it was like an exhibition. I can't remember if
it was like New York or Chicago, but it was
some private wrestling seminar school thing. It's about a fourteen
minute match. Well, like I said, I'm not going to
go into great lengths to explain the match. I'll post
the links to that in the details for the video.
But you know, she's been active, she's been active, she's
been training, she's been doing work on her Patreon. I mean,

(03:19):
like she's not just sitting on her She's been running
the conventions. She claims that she's healthy and ready to
rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, right, I mean this is great news. Would you
guys consider this great news? Guys cool?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think it would be nice to see him back.
I just don't see how they don't have creative for him.
I mean, the patriarch is still going strong, and with
Julia back well, I mean I could see where Sky
would be hard to fit back in. But yeah, it'd
be great to see him both back soon.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, you know with Luca Sous I mean, keep it
buying that Christian Cage still has that stupid contract, and
if he tries to cash that edit Revolution, that would
be a really good moment seeing Lucasaurus come in to
either help Christian Cage or not help Christian Cage at Revolution.

(04:16):
I really think that we'll see Lucasaurus or kill Switch
back at Revolution.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I mean I wouldn't agree.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I agreed.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I hope.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I hope he does come back in Revolution, and I
hope he kicks Christian in the head.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I think a lot of people are really wanting that.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Absolutely I got a very like the conversation I had
with Lucasaurus was just very down to earth. Like I said,
I had him for about twenty twenty five minutes and
we talked about everything from like horror movies, what he
was watching on TV. We talked a little bit about
his rehab. We talked about you know, you know, him,
not them, not having creative. He wouldn't, but he like

(04:59):
the one thing that they both did. When I asked,
they were very like dismissive about it, like, oh yeah,
where's the creative, Like they almost identically like it might
have been something they were told to say, or that
they've said so many times that they were frustrated and
saying it. I think that's a scary thing because Ricky
Starks was supposed to be at this thing, got released
in the same week and showed up to NXT the

(05:20):
week later, Like is it for a lacking or creative
or dot dot dot.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Well, I think that maybe, As I said, I think
Lucasaurus will show up at Revolution and that's probably the
best place for him to come back. As far as
sky Blue, I'm actually kind of surprised based on the
extent of her injury that she's back so soon and
is cleared so soon, and maybe they're just giving her
a little bit extra time to train and get acclimated.

(05:51):
And I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't participate in
singles matches right away. I wouldn't be surprised to see
her in tag teams.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
But that's the thing. That's the thing there was sky Blue.
She she can be slatted in anywhere. You could put
her on the main show. You could put her like
in a program with Mercedes, you could put her in
a program with Tony Storm, you could put her in
a program with a scene them. You can slot sky

(06:24):
booing anywhere on on the card and it would work so.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Look, uh, Julia Hart hasn't been around either. I mean,
she wrestled three matches this year, but those were all
in January. She hasn't been around this month at all.
She hasn't been seen. I mean, we've seen the Hounds
of Hell a few times now, and I think the
first time that the Hounds of Hell came out, she
was with them as a valet basically. But I mean,

(06:56):
Julia Hart is sky Blue's tag partner, so they kind
of need both of them there together to have a
tag guard. Look, the way the way AW works a
lot of times is when somebody came back, somebody comes
back from injury, they put they protect them. They put
them in tag matches or something like that. They did
it with CM Punk, they did it with many other people.

(07:20):
You know, they put them in trios matches or tag
matches so they can work their way back into it. Yeah,
you're right, Max that they could slot sky Blue in
with Mercedes Monette and whatnot. But yeah, it's you know,
she's young, she's got a lot of time left in
her career, especially since she's said that she's going to

(07:40):
wrestle till she's ninety nine. Just protect her, I mean,
give her the time to get in there and acclimated.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, I would like to see I mean, like you said,
Julie hasn't been around, but she has this feud going
with she just slipped my mind her name, but with
Amy Haator who said, anytime you want another match, it'll happen.
I could see that happening at Revolution also because they

(08:13):
still got room for a lot more matches of Revolution.
I mean we still only have like three or four
matches set up so that could be an opportunity to
bring back sky Blue too in some way during that match. Yeah,
they do protect them, but if she's already competing in
match in a in a intergender match with her fiance,

(08:34):
in a fourteen minute match, and she looked as good
as she did when she left, there's nothing to protect here.
Back in the ring, you're going.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, I mean I didn't see the match, so you
may be correct, but you know, I mean, Shane, did
you see the match? And how did she look? Was
she moving? Okay?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
And well I'm looking up to the when was her injury?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I was against thunder Rosa in uh in the Esports Stadium,
so that would have been probably around July. Okay, yeah,
I think it was because it was the road to
it was the road to all In, and all In
took place on August twenty seven, so it would have
been more than likely mid to late July.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's twenty three.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
It was either a late July or early August, because
he has they were building to all all right.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So that following April and in December. I'm trying to
look up the Yes, I've seen the match. She looks great,
but like I'm trying to look for the match to
post it to our socials. I'm off on a tangent
right now doing my computer thing. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, Honestly,
I think like they can. Of course they get slot

(09:49):
sky Blue in anywhere. I mean, like she but I
don't know. I kind of agree with Kelson on this one.
If they're gonna bring her back into the fold, make
sure that you protect her and keep her one hundred
percent ready. The last thing that we need is any
these people coming back fresh from an injury getting reinjured.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, I mean, why haven't we seen Julia Hard? Is
she reinjured? You know?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
That's you know, that's just it.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I looked it up, but I haven't seen anything. Maybe
they're just holding Julia Hart back so that she can
get you know, even that much more healing in anticipation
of sky Blue coming back. And look, with Lucasaurus, it's
kind of obvious that whatever he does, it's gonna be
with the patriarchy or against the patriarchy. He wasn't being

(10:31):
treated well by Christian Cage, you know, during his final
his last appearances. So maybe we finally get Lucasaurus saying
enough or grunting enough because he doesn't talk.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
So while I pull while I was looking to pull off,
Julia Hart was currently injured, I pulled an old SRS
article about how she was cleared for several months until
her in ring return.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Right, maybe, yeah, maybe. Julia Hart just did an interview
that I that I did watch. It was about two
weeks ago where she said that in September, I believe
she said she was ready to go, she was cleared
and uh, but she was happy that they waited until
January first to put her back in the ring because

(11:25):
it gave her that much more time to get one
hundred percent and the confidence to go out there and
do what she does. You know, let's face it, sky
bluehead that that injury was horrific. You know, Julia Hart
had a torn h yeah, her what the laburnum? Yeah? God, well,

(11:56):
so at least it was never mind I'm not going
there the Tony Storm injury, but you know, you know, so,
but that injury for sky Blue was I mean, they
had to stop the match. I mean, that was that's
a devastating injury. You know, and if you remember, we
talked about it last night and all out in Chicago,

(12:19):
which was two weeks after all, in which would have
been September of last year. Sky Blue did come out
get attacked by Narayama and say by Queen Amanada. So
she took a bump at that, but she was on crutches,
you know. But you know, what we really don't know
is the extent of we know what kind of happened

(12:40):
with Lucasaurus, And frankly, we're never going to get like
an in ring promo from him saying, well, this is
what happened, and well.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Good thing about was they lost a great wrestler because
of something like what he had. You know, when when
John died out of nowhere when he first came in
then the enlightened or there. I can't even remember his
name that it's been so long, but he had a

(13:08):
long issue that killed him. And when Lucysaurus got the
same thing, I can see them taking as long as
they actually because you know, when yeah, when Bray waittt
when when someone where yeah, when he died, you know,
that was totally out of the blue. No one expected
it to happen.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
And when you get are you talking about mister Brodie Lee.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Though, yeah, Berdie Lee, that's what I meant, that's what
I'm talking about. My brain's in weird mode right now.
But yeah, when Brodie Lee died, it was no one expected,
no one saw it coming, and it was a lung problem.
Same thing with Lucy's source. He has a long issue.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Mess with that, and they're not. I mean, I can
see I can see them keeping him out till they're
a thousand times percent you know, sure that he's going
to be okay, just because they don't want something else
to happen.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Keith Lee also has long issues.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Good we could Yeah, and that was that was why
he's been out for so long.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh yeah, they don't want to run the risk of
him you know.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's one other thing that I want to bring up about, Go.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Ahead, I just want to Yeah, did have also?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
That was?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
That was.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
That was confirmed right after. Well, the one thing that
I wanted to bring up about Lucasaurus is somebody else
that's been absent that used to be his partner, and
that's Jungle Boy Jack Perry. What if that that's when
they bring Jack Perry back. They're gonna bring Jack Perry back,
and you know, Jurassic Express maybe reuniting. I mean I'd

(14:42):
be there for that. I mean they were a very
popular group. Uh yeah, I mean and again putting him
with putting Lucasaurus with jungle Boy would act as protecting
Lucasaurus a little little bit.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
But kilseen, we gotta understand Jack Perry is still very
much intertwined with the whole Elite stuff. So that's the
one problem my album.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I gotta disagree with that because the Elite stuff is done.
They killed that when.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, I kind of have to three with here because
what elite stuff will Elite haven't been seen in what
the least not this year.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I mean, OCA has been active and he's no longer
associated with it. So I mean Perry, I mean, he
was in it and they were doing that. But when
they killed that whole storyline, that's the end of that.
I don't think he's gonna have anything to do with
him again. I really don't see that happening.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Okay, then in that case, yeah, give me give me
drumstick express again.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean, yeah, Max, when you're looking at the Elite,
there's four people in the Elite, and three of them
haven't been seen in you know, weeks.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
They're work in Japan. That that's all like.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
They were in Japan. But yeah, they were in Japan,
but that was one match. And were they the elite?
They were the young Bucks? They weren't. They weren't like
an elite. Uh, they were naked. It wasn't there, It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, but what I'm saying, it wasn't. They weren't being
promoted as the elite. They were being promoted as the
young bucks. Yeah, especially not the elite as a group.
So anyway, that is the breaking not really breaking news.
Thank you Shane for sharing that with us.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, thank you for letting me to talk to you
for twenty minutes. Bro, you're cool as well.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
There was a lot going on in this show, wouldn't
you agree? I mean, this show was packed when you
look at all the stuff that happened to the show,
aw is getting I want to bring something up. I
want to bring something up before we actually start the
discussion because it's something that I noticed last year. I

(17:12):
do not watch WWE, but last year I did make
a concerted effort to watch WWE RAW a couple of times. Again,
this was when it was not on Netflix, it was
on regular TV, and I was in the live chats,
and the live chat was timestamped, and I noticed something
on both of the shows on WWE Raw, and that

(17:36):
was that it started out with both shows that I
watched started out with an inn ring promo interspersed with
like a video package that kind of recap some things
that happened in the past. That in ring promo lasted
for nineteen minutes. After the promo was done, they introduced

(17:59):
one of the wrestlers that was going to be wrestling
in the first match. Then they went to a commercial break.
They came back and they did a little bit of
a promo, like a backstage thing or a video promo.
Then they cut back into the arena and the second
wrestler that was going to be wrestling in the first

(18:21):
match came out and the match began. That was exactly
the same thing that happened tonight on aw Dynamite Doo
with t That was the WWE Raw formula that I
saw on two WWE ras late last year. Just wanted
to bring that up.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Do you think it worked? Did it keep you hooked? Uh?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Let me put it this way. I the first well,
let's just talk about it, Okay, So the first thing
that we had that, you know, as soon as the
show started, we had mgf's music hit. Hank Manhattan Page
then came out and they had a face to face again.
The ww E raws both of them that I saw
that went nineteen minutes to face. The face between Hangman

(19:08):
and and MGF lasted for twenty one minutes, so it
was basically the same, not exactly the same, but basically
the same. But guys, we're talking about it, how did
you feel about the MGF and Hangman face to face?
Did it work for you? Guys?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Great promo, great promo it was. It was it was fun,
it was interesting, the crowd was into it. Definitely gonna
be one hell of a match at Revolution.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, I can't wait for that go ahead.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
I do want to piggyback on that. Yeah, it did
for the first ten or so much, it did feel
like your standard RAW opener. But but that promo, like
Sutton said, that was mess. That was a good promo.
That was the best promos I've I've heard it in
a while from from him.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Here you go ahead.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You got the best mouthpiece in AW standing next to
aw's final boss and main character. I mean, did the
story kind of writes itself at that prom like you're
gonna get greatness on MGF every time he's behind a microphone.
I was just hoping that someone would snack some with
someone else and collect that fine. That would have been hardcore.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Dave, do you have anything to say about this promo?
What did you think?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Kind of missed it?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh you missed it? Okay? Well, look I thought whoever
said masterclass, I absolutely agree that was just it was
just fun. It kept me invested throughout the entire promo.
I mean, I really want to see this match now,
and that's the point, right.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yep, Well, and you mentioned it. It's exactly like what
WW didn't in the same time last year. The big
difference though, is once AW starts the matches rolling, they
don't stop. They're full on out gone. Everything is just
straight ahead. You don't have short periods of wrestling and

(21:23):
long periods of bullshit. You have, you get a mixture
and it's good to go. That's the big difference between AW,
what how AW is doing it, and what a WWE does.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I did notice that that AW is once you get
through like the first like I al want to say,
like two quarters on, did you get it just rolls
or it goes by quick where w W it is
the slowest burn of two hours you'll ever see.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, I mean, if you I have the itinerary or
not the itinerary, but in oline of everything that happened
to night posted here for us to read, had of
like in two hours. No, and you have to also
take commercial breaks into consideration. But in the two hours
they got all this in there and it wasn't It
didn't seem rushed. It didn't seem rushed. It flowed really well.

(22:16):
And that's something Since a W has gone on the Max,
this has happened quite a bit. It's a change.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
This was one of the best episodes of Dynamite I
have ever seen since Day's first open shop. This felt
like eight twenty nineteen Dynamite. It was all there and
it was great.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah. And of course then we had Christopher Daniels come
out and get into uh it to a one on
one conversation with hang Man in Paige and I am
so glad that the microphones actually picked that up because
they didn't have a microphone on them, and that was
good too. I'm honestly, this whole segment I was just impressed.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I do think though that had they gone at it
and gotten the fines and stuff, it may have taken
away I think taken away from the segment I'm happy with.
I wouldn't change a thing.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Put it that way the same here. It was cohesive.
It kept you interested, and it did was supposed to
do that. That's all you could ask for as a
talent or as a booker. That was great.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, so let's continue asking the answering the question that
Shane asked earlier. Did it flow for me? Well, after
this segment with Hangman and MJF, we announced the Patriarchy
and they came to the ring, okay, and that's when
they broke for a commercial. I left the Patriarchy in

(23:50):
the ring. They came back for the commercial and I
can't remember exactly what it was, but they did do
a video package for something. I can't remember what it was,
but they did that, and then the ops came out,
and of course then they started a match and the
get a look, are you guys down with opps?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's the low hanging fruit there. Kelson, Yeah, I mean
the ops are sweet. I'm never gonna I'm always going
to be one of those you know, Hook got his
job because it's dad guys, and like he does, he has,
though he has vastly improved in comparison to the Hook
that we had two years ago. I'm still just not
as big as fan. But the match overall was fantastic. Yeah,

(24:33):
glad to see that Kip Sabian's actually still getting a
little bit of ring time because he's fantastic and Samoa
Joe is a convincing leader. Love to see him continue
to beat everyone's ass.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, Joe is just He's just Scott leadership written all
over him. He really does.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah. I get a question now, normally when you spell
ops's ops, did they do the opps on purpose or
is that just a fluke that someone don't how to spell?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Uh well, ops ops ops. The way it's spelled, opps
doesn't stand for yeah you know me, it stands for
opposition and opposition is opp And yes, they did do
that on purpose.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Opp Just I kind of found that kind of weird,
and I was I was the same way as you
last night. I was like, man, they got it, somebody's
got to do that, but they didn't.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm gonna be that guy, you know, in The stand
point is.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Most people that were there probably too young to know
what that meant.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't know. I was waiting for a chance. Are
you done with opp and the other half of the crowd. Yeah,
you know me, you know exactly said you said? Yeah,
did I take your thunder?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
No? No, no, no, you're you're all making us look
this old. So I remember when that song came out.
I was actually ops because always sitting behind a computer
is actually a British slang. It though, yeah it's short proposition,
but it's someone that you're in a conflict with.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, well it's also an urban dictionary as well, and
that is the definition as well. Because being the great
host that I am, I looked it up, you know,
because I wanted to be educacated. All right. So then
we had the end. So let's answer the question the
disc flow for you. Did you know did the Patriarchy

(26:33):
coming out having a commercial break, having that little short
video package and the Ops coming out and they have the match.
I mean, it probably wasn't my favorite thing to do,
but I didn't have a problem with it either. I mean,
I'm not going to throw a fit over it.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
It wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
It wasn't how do I how do I put? It
wasn't horrible.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
It did we like said, it was one of those
things where it was supposed to do, but it was
just a little too choppy for my taste.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
But overall not bad.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, But like I said before, that is exactly. And
the two raws that I did watch last year, that
was the formula. That is exactly how raw opened it was.
The only difference was is that the two RAS because
I did time it because I was looking at the
time stamps. The two raws, the MGF and Hangman's segment

(27:32):
lasted nineteen minutes, but on the AW lasted twenty one,
So that was the only difference. Everything else was exact.
I want to move on to something here that I'm
pretty sure that Sutton's not going to like, and that
is Chris Jericho challenging Bandido to a Ring of Honor

(27:55):
World Championship match on Collision to go right to Sutton,
because I mean, am I wrong that you don't like
Ring of Honor championships being well, you.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Know what, I.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Don't have a problem with them at like the Collision
and on Dynamite if they're once in a while, but
when you have a pay per view is when I
have an issue with it. I don't know. I mean,
it really don't. I mean, it's not like a big,
major deal. But they should be defended in r o H.
I don't understand. You know, they're they're not supposed to
be working, they're not supposed to be the same thing.

(28:33):
But yet most I'm going to say, all the men's
titles in r o H have been defended in ae W,
but yet the women's matches aren't. So I just don't know.
That doesn't make no sense, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, I would love to see Athena AW defending against somebody.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, they they need to either. To me, when you're
saying they're separate companies, then you need to keep them separate.
There's no need to have r OH men on A.
You've got such a big roster on ae W. Why
do you have to constantly have crossover when you don't
need it?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
One agreed. I agree with you, one hundred ten. So
that Ring of Honor should be kept separate from the
AW titles, kind of how they do on the other
side with the NXT titles and the WW titles. They
keep them separate. That's what Tony should do with the
Ring of Honor titles and the aw titles. You have

(29:39):
them defended on the main on the main programs sparingly,
like on the weekly He's like once or twice a year.
You'll let them have a bit a pay per view match,
maybe for all in or like a one Boich orrit
what is it called shoot or dynasty or but no,

(30:03):
Tony should not be cross promoting, cross booking or not.
It's not good.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
What about you, Shane? What do you think about this
cross promoting? I guess is the best way to put.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
It as long as it's used as a device to
get the belt off of Jericho onto Bandido and to
put Bandido in the Ring of Honor. Well do you
think do you.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Think come Saturday, the Bandido's gonna beat Jericho for that belt?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I love If anything, If anything, Big Bill or maybe yeah,
we'll get involved in it and they will make the
match for Revolution.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Bandido's got homies. Now you see that little photo dump
they did with the Bandidos and the Outrunners, I mean
we're over completely. Bandido could get this belt. I'm saying it,
drop it off of Jericho.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I do think that Bandido is going to get the belt,
but I think it'll probably be a revolution, but and
not on Collision. I think collision. The match on Collision
will be used to set up a match on at Revolution.
That's just my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, what's the is death? Death before disnors next for
Bring of Honor?

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Believe that. I believe you're right.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, so I think I think it's going to go
that far. I think that they'll drop the r Age
title on an r OG program. I'm fantasy booking Bandido
winning just because it's time for Chris Chris Jericho to
go on a Vacation's got to go on tour or something.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Just retired, Jeredo.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
No, I don't want to be retired. I just want
him to take a.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, I mean go make a movie, go tour, going tour.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Wait, the bad part is the bad part is the
last time they did a Fozzy tour, he didn't leave.
He was still here in taper break they did the tourney,
didn't have to leave. Yeah, you know, there's no guarantee
unless he's going. Maybe they should try to. Someone should
try to getting booked in Australia so you can go
there for a while. Kind of hard to make that jump.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, let's move on, because then we had a match
that I was actually looking forward to, and I don't
know how you guys feel about it. I didn't really
care for this match as much as I thought I would.
And that was Powerhouse Hobbs against Big Bill in a
street fight, which they didn't call it a Phoenix street fight.
They usually put the city on it, but it was
a street fight. It was decent, but it wasn't as

(32:35):
good as I thought it would be. And I mentioned
last night that I would much rather see Powerhouse Obbs
and Big Bill at the main event of Revolution over
Adam Copeland and John Moxley. But anyway, what did you
think of this match?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Man? It wasn't that bad. Did they hit, They hit
their spots, They had their moments, you know that when
Pobs punched that chair as the bad Apple was coming
and I thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
That was bad ass.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
That was super badass. I think, you know, for me,
I think the big thing for me is like I
didn't know who I wanted to go over because I
want to see Big Pill get a super push. I
think he could be a world champion. I think he's
he does not belong stagnating on the mid card as
a Lackey and a Jericho faction. I think that dude
should be a world champion.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
But do you think you should?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
He? Is it?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Me?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Shane?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Do you think the Big Bill has baby face written
all over him?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Baby face dude like the the middle class Americans working
man's champion. That's what we need. Or throw a black
vest on him and have him start cussling h.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Fromland iiO get the hell out.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Oh man, don't do me already. No, I like the mask.
The only part of them my head with it was
the wrench. I'm sorry. Those wrenches are heavy. If someone
actually hits you in the head with one of those wrenches,
you're not getting up. I don't care how tough you are.
That was kind of unrealistic, but you know it was.
It was a decent match.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I was really hoping they were both going down to
the floor on the table, but in ended all right.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I'm gonna say this with all the love that I can,
but if somebody slapped you across one of the wrestlers
slapped you across the jaw or me, that would be it.
We're done. So what the hell are you talking about?
A wrench you could have if you get a bit slap,
we're done. You know, come on, you know, these these
wrestlers could take a bump that would kill a mortal man.

(34:41):
And I consider myself a mortal man, and I consider you.
I don't know about Shane. Shane's a little bit different
than us. He's taken before, you know, but yeah, I mean,
let's he's a singer in a middle band. You mean,
if if Megan Band gave you a body slam, just
body slammed you.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I'm not I'm not commenting, just.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Mean I would know that.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm just saying, you know, I kind of like what.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Saying in the chat.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
You don't know he's gonna get broken in half.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, this, this match tonight could lead to when is
the next.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
R O pay per view?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Oh god, they do him quarterly, but I think the
like of two months from now.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
So there's been kind of contention between Big Bill and
Jericho over the last few like little spots they've been doing.
Maybe because he lost this match tonight, they could start
the program where like m K said, it would be
awesome if that the next pay per view, they had
Big Bill come out and beat be the one to
take Jericho down, and that I mean, they've been kind

(36:05):
of you know, he's been kind of getting on Bill
instead of the other way around, you know, getting on
the the the other guy, and it's kind of weird.
Maybe that was maybe that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, but I much rather see Lucasaurus take down Christian Cage,
some Big Bill take down Jericho. I'd just like to
see Bandido take down Jericho. As as Shane said.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, someone beat up Jericho.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
No, it's not evenbout beating him up. Someone takes him down.
He goes on a losing streak and everyone leaves him.
Then he goes, now I'm gonna be a commentator or
a manager now, and then you know, rest Wrestling prospers.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, so we already we're talking. We're talking about Chris
Jericho setting up a match against Bandido on Collision. Then
after the Hobbs Big Bill fight, we had the mur
Her Machines backstage, uh and they basically said we want
to talk to her syndicate on Collision. I didn't say
that they're going to do a match. He just said

(37:09):
they were going to talk. But this was a nice
flow into promoting something to watch on Collision, and this
wasn't the last thing that they did for Collision, so
you know. So, I mean it's not really worth talking
about as far as what's going to happen, but yeah,

(37:32):
I mean it was great. Then we had Tony Storm.
You know, just what can you say? Tony Storm came out,
the lights dim, the spotlight came out, and she cut
her promo and she took a bow and she deserved to,
you know, let's put it that way anybody. Yeah, I mean,

(37:56):
is one of.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Might be one of the most interesting things that's happening
in pro just all of professional wrestling, the entire spectrum today,
and it is worth what watching. And I don't care
what you're doing with this character, whether there's a goldner
or not, it's gonna be great to just keep slathering
it on until it stops working. It's still functional.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
And I have to think it's arguable I think she
got the biggest pop of the night just by walking out.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure it was a Luther that
got the pop. I mean, everyone's just pumped to see
him doing something.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I'm down for. Butler's more than I am for opps mmmm.
And then we had yet another promise of something coming
up at Collision game kids, n JPW is coming to Collision, and.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
That was a surprise.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
What the hell is he gonna do? I'm there for it,
but what the hell is gonna do?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Funny having a conversation with a group of guys about
Gabe kid and completely off the wall and within fifteen seconds.
So he's going to w w F or WWE. Then
there's the promo. Yeah, do you think he's gonna sign
with the aw guys? That's the real question.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Because when's his contract?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I believe he's I can't remember if he's long term
or short term. I'm gonna look that up. What do
you what do you do you think he would come
over though?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Like I would say, I mean, yeah, who knows? I
mean would I before? Sure? Huh but allah.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
New Japan star Gabe could actually has been working without
a contract with New Japan. His whole entire contract is
on a handshake.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Oh wow, Oh well you know what. Kudos to him then, Yeah,
I love that he's a strong champion, right he is. Yeah,
he's just your own champion. So I mean he faced
Kenny in January, so that was Kenny's first match back.

(40:08):
Kenny's involved in something else, so who's he coming.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
To see their petico?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Obviously, Hey, I'm thinking I'm thinking that would be a
great idea.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Or it could be Bolt Club recruiting priming Forbidden Door.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I gotta be honest with you. Shane mentioned the low
So out Runners with Bandido, But Bandido wore that really
weird mask. At that first glance, I thought it was
so petic.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Blue and pink and yellow. Was there yellow in it?
I know there was blue and pink. I think there
was some yellow in it too. That was just weird.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
It looked like a beach towel threw up. That's what
it looked like. Yeah, it was. It was out there. Uh.
Then we had a segment that well, we had Willow
Nike backstage. She said maybe thirteen words and Marina Shapiro

(41:05):
attacked again, and it really didn't make a whole lot
of sense to me to do that again. What are
they doing with Willow?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I think they're setting something up between her and Marina,
to be honest, I think they're going to have to
have a match. It doesn't make any I mean, when
they were talking about the next match that came up.
They were saying it what happens that Willow was going
to get involved, which made no sense because you had
other people that it would have made sense with which
they ended up doing. But they're kind of stagnated with her.

(41:41):
They've got nothing for her right now, so this the
only thing that makes sense. But she's kind of been
left out on an island.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah. I don't know if you guys watched the show
on Max or not on Matt did you see the
commercial break where Ryan Seacrest did that casino commercial and
it showed like seventeen times in a row. On Mine,

(42:15):
I had this weird casino commercial with Ryan Seacrest. It
was only like a ten second long commercial and they
showed it over and over. The whole commercial break was that,
And that is kind of what reminds me of the
Willow Knightingale and Marina Shaffier thing at this point, because
I believe this is the third time that this has

(42:36):
happened the exact same way. This is not setting up
a match between Marina ship Beer and Willow Nightingale at
at Revolution or Collision or anywhere. To me, it's just
there at this point, it's.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
The same thing.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Now. What this did do was set up John Moxley
coming to the ring and that, of course he spewed
for a little bit, and you know it is passionately
in coherent way, and then Jay White came out, that
Adam Copeland came out. Did this segment do it for

(43:12):
you guys?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Man?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
It's seg me kind of pissed me off a little bit,
to be honest, because yeah, I mean I've been I've
been happy, I've not been disappointed in the Death Writer stuff,
and they were starting to This all came down to
what happened Saturday. You had this building up where the
bad guys are getting beat down and they're not winning
anymore like they were until Saturday. And Saturday they had

(43:39):
him come out and the only people, no one, no
one was there to help Jay White and Cope, but
everybody from the Death Writers were there. So they immediately
destroyed the whole build up they had gone for the
last three shows. And then they turn around again on
the next show and do it again where the bad
guys tuck tail and run. That makes no sense, It

(44:00):
doesn't build. They really blew the To me, they really
blew this with what happened on Saturday just did not
make any sense. And then to come back out and
then two guys take on all five of them and
chase them out of the ring just didn't make any
sense at all.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, why would they run away?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
It was like it was like, well, we did this
for three weeks and we thought it was gonna be okay,
but then we're gonna screw you around on on Saturday,
and we're gonna go back to what we were doing
before those three matt those three nights. But oh wait, man,
we're gonna go back to what we were doing in
the States and make sure that Australia really didn't happen.
I'm like, come on, guys, you gotta get this together.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Well, to be fair, yeah, it was two on five,
but one of the two had a baseball bat with
metal spike sticking up.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
But he didn't have that right away. He didn't have
it right away, and I mean he did get a
swing at him, but before that they they it just
the whole setup didn't make any sense because Pack comes
out real slow and walks up behind Jay White and
nobody moves towards him, and then Cope appears in the
back of the ring and he gets the advantage which

(45:11):
he didn't get in Australia. So it's to me, it's
just like they just said, Okay, we're gonna throw Australia.
We're gonna let the death Riders beat him down and
took them out. But then we're just gonna act like
that didn't happen, and we're going right back to the
way it was when we were doing things on collision
and Dynamite and we'll just ignore what happened. That just
to me, that's bad storytelling. And I know people were

(45:33):
upset because well, they're doing the same thing all over
all the time, but they're really not. They are trying
to get better at it, but they're just it's like
every time Tony makes a forward move, he takes three
steps back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
In our chat, I just wanted to read this chat
message from venom Snack. He said A w fans have
collectively just begun ignoring the Moxley saga and are enjoying
everything else. Frankly, I actually agree with that, because.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
I still don't agree with that because the fans in
the state in the stands, the fans were reacting to
what was going on. When Moxley came out, they were
reacting the way you wanted them to react. They were
involved in it. When they started to beat down and
everything changed, they were into that, and then the whole
thing is building. I know people have a problem with it,
but it's not as there there there's too many people

(46:25):
making they're they're looking at this the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
It's gonna be what it is. It's gonna lead to. Hopefully,
maybe you were right when we were talking last night
and saying that, you know, because he got beat down
and choked out, maybe he is gonna win at Maybe
they've decided to change their plans that it isn't gonna
be h It isn't gonna be one where we thought
it was gonna be, and they're gonna go with Adam

(46:51):
Copeland and then to have the whole Cope Christian thing.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Dane thoughts on this, Uh, yeah, I see why I
pissed you off sudden. I mean, I mean like it does.
It's like it's just not cohesive at all. You just
brought back the guns. They couldn't bail you out over
the weekend. It's it's a stompfest and then the bad
guys are running away. Yeah, it looks stupid, especially when

(47:21):
you're painting the bad guys as these onipotent, unbeatable, violent,
vicious thugs that aren't being stopped. I mean, I don't know,
it's stupid. I'm watching it. I don't hate it, but
like it's like I have to agree, it's making me
enjoy literally everything else that's going on in AW.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, I mean I agree with that. I mean, I
just there's just something about the whole Moxley saga that, Yeah,
it is just a Moxley saga because the others are
really just character actors at this point. They're not really
doing anything with the death Riders other than Moxley my opinion,

(48:01):
and it's just not holding my interest. And I hate
to say that because it is supposed to be the
biggest story at AAW, but I'm enjoying practically everything else more.
Moving on again, this is another segment that I really
enjoyed because it made you look forward to not Collision

(48:25):
but Dynamite. Next week, we had Mama Motadebe revealed that
she remember she won that Women's International Cup at Russell Dynasty,
and I believe it was Russell Dynasty. Was it Russell Kingdom?
I think it was Russell Dynasty, But anyway, she was
the winner, and now she gets to challenge for the

(48:48):
championship of her choice in any of the four promotions,
meaning CMML, Stardom, Ring of Honor at aaw that she chooses. Well, tonight,
she revealed that you wanted to go after the TBS
championship at Mercedes Monett at Revolution, and Mercedes' response to
that was you want it, come to see me face

(49:11):
to face and ask me about it on Dynamite next week.
So right there, we're going to see a face to
face more than likely on Dynamite next week between Mercedes
Monet and Momo Watanabe. Again, great production, great way to
reveal something to look forward to on a show a

(49:33):
week from now. I was one hundred percent into this.
It was short and well done. What do you guys think?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, short and sweet. Although I would like to talk
about the future that could you know come from this match,
like if Momo actually drops a belt off of Mercedes,
are they going to drop all of them? Which one?
If it's one at a time, you know, well, this.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Match will be specifically because the stipulation on this match
is that she can go for one championship from a promotion,
and the only belt from AW that Mercedes owns is
the TBS Championship, so it would only be for the
TBS Championship.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Yeah, but she even said that she wants a TBS Championship.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Shows how while I was paying attention to that segment,
I mean, come on, yeah, I know, horrible.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, So anybody else have thoughts on this? I'm just
it was short, sweet, simple, and maybe look forward to
seeing that segment on Dynamite next week. And hey, and
Bumbo spoke English very well, so yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, ten out of ten.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
And then we had probably the match that I was
most surprised by because I was hoping, hoping that this
was going to be a banger, and but I was
fearful that it wasn't going to be. My hopes were realized.
Chris Statlander and Megan Baine. Holy crap. I loved every

(51:18):
second of this. You know, the two biggest, arguably the
two biggest women in a w went at it, and
they looked like the two biggest women in AW going
at it. But it wasn't like hulking, slow moving moves.
They were doing some crazy spots. This was a great match.

(51:42):
I loved every second of it. What'd you guys think?
Great match?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Al?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, miss you, miss you.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Match?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
This is this is the mastic that they kind of
was like everybody was saying, well, when Penelicaly comes out
to attack and they start beating up on her, that
Willow should come out and help her. But that was
sitting there going why would you throw why would you
leave thunder Rosa out because that makes no sense because
those are the four girls that have been involved with
each other in the last two weeks, and it made

(52:18):
it was good that thunder came out. I thought that
part was kind of stupid because why are you gonna
argue with a little chair like that? Hit the dumb
girl hit her. Don't sit there, and I'm take it
from you. I'm that just made no sense whatsoever. But
other than that, the rest of it was great. I'm
looking forward to the tag team match because you know
that's coming either next week on Dynamite or on Collision

(52:39):
the next week after that.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Was anybody disappointed that it was thunder Rosa not Willow Nightingale, No?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, I mean, look, this match penelopefore thought the Rosa
mega Bain Christatlander could make. She could make me look
like a world champion contender. I mean, I think that
Chris Statlander doesn't get the credit that credit is deserved
in a lot of cases because she's a great wrestler,

(53:15):
but she's a great worker. Even what she's even what
she's doing the job, it's just so good, you know.
It's kudos to Statlander, Kudos to Meghan Baine. They went
at it like two luchadoras and they're not tiny women.
They were so athletic. Just appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, I Megan Bane and christ Yeah, they played off
of each other very well. They have they clearly have
good chemistry in the ring. And I can't wait for
what's next.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah, I mean we're definitely gonna see probably Meghan ban
and Penelope forward against Statlander and Rosa. I mean, I
mean that's probably gonna be a match at Revolution. I mean,
they've got to have women's matches on that show. I mean,
it could be a zero hour match, but I wouldn't
be surprised if that wasn't made for there. And then

(54:15):
and then we had the completely inept Max Caster come
out and I say that with loved respect because I'm
really enjoying these open challenges beatdowns that he's going through.
But yet again, yeah, but again on this, with this,

(54:36):
with this segment, it gave us something to look forward
to on Collision again, I believe that's the third Yeah,
the third thing that they've actually promoted for Collision on Dynamite.
That's just good. That's just good work. And they didn't
really they didn't even give a clue, which I really liked.

(54:56):
And who is going to answer the open challenge? Do
you think it could possibly be Anthony Bowenes?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Too early? I agree, that's way too You gotta let
this do for a while. You got to give him
a beat down from every possible big guy just out there.
I mean, or even even if he gets beat by it,
don't have to be a big guy. It could be anybody,
and that would be a good you know what, that
would be amazing. But you know who I'd really like

(55:26):
to see is I'd like to see Luther and his
boy come out and get together again and do their thing.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
But yeah, him go together.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I mean pentacle around that that I missed that, I
missed that a lot. That was so much fun. To watch.
But yeah, I don't know whoever it is. You know
he's gonna get beat. It just proves that anybody can
copyright anything they want to and and get away with it.
Just don't It's just it's so much fun.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't mind if it was Wardlow.
I wouldn't mind if it was Swerve Strickland. I mean,
they just need to have somebody come out and just
beat the crap out of Back's caster. I just haven't
been so much in the denial that he'll still consider
himself the best wrestler alive. Holy, he'll make an excuse.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Well, he didn't make an excuse the other day. He
just said that it was he came up and he's
doing the thing. After the matches over, he rolls out
of the ring, grabs his little piece of paper and
hold it up and cheering like he did something, and
it was just like, dude, man, you're just like way
over the top delirious right now.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, sure, what if it's Gabe Kid, I would love that,
Oh my god. Yeah, definitely announcing his opponent from New Japan.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
That's a good call. That's a good call. Shade perfect
way to get gape Kid into the.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Show to drag him across them.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Do it at the very beginning, do it at the
very beginning to show, and just throughout the show just
showed gape Kid dragging Max Caster through the parking lot,
you know, through the Grand Canyon, you know wherever.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
You know, the the new Japan Strong Champion Gabe Kid,
oh ship.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Oh hell?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Nor like a Max Caster got abduct at Angle and
that's how they get rid of them.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Now you now you got me Jones from gape Kid
versus Max Caster.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
We hopefully into existence.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Oh my god. I would it would be like so
happy if that happened.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
The question, though, comes is is Daddy asked going to
face him? Is that going to be one of the
matches that lead to him and Bowen?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
It could be possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if
Billy Gunn is no longer good to Russell anymore. I mean, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
I kind of see him doing something with his kids
one last time, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
That's more than Possibles champs or something. Yeah, just the backtrack,
did anybody when they were doing the John Moxley, J White,
Adam Colpan thing, was anybody disappointed that the guns didn't
come out to support j White?

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
I was. I was thinking, yeah, disappointed.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, well I was waiting for them.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I'm like, where are they?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
That would have been perfect. Look, let's move on because
I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna say this, uh
completely unknownly because I never saw Ricochet Russell once or
do anything in WWE. However, the the thing that most

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people that I've seen expressed their opinions about Ricochet is
that he is one the worst person on the mic
ever and and but he's okay in the ring. But
tonight we had a pretty long segment with Ricochet in

(59:33):
the ring with the mic. I didn't see any flaws.
I don't know how you guys felt about it, but yeah,
I thought it was really good.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
You have to take that with the caveat that that
was when he was in WWE, where they give you
what you're saying, they do all your your promos. You
don't make that stuff up in your own He was
not very good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Maybe it's not good at reading scripts. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Yeah, I mean, he wasn't that good on the mic,
But then again, they didn't use him well in WWE,
So the opportunities he did get there was nothing to
get into. He never did anything he's getting right now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I don't really want to talk about WWE as much
as I want to talk about this particular promo in
AAW because again I didn't have a problem with it.
I enjoyed it from beginning to end. I was even
surprised at Prince Nanna, I really was. I thought this
was a really, really, really interesting promo. I mean, look

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Ricochet and Prince Nanna and MJFF and Hangman Adam Paige.
In my opinion, both of them knocked it out of
the park.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Yeah, I'm waiting for this to happen again, but it's
not going to be Swerved to give him the beat down.
It's going to be the Embassy. What embassy still there's
still isn't weren't the I can't think of their names,

(01:01:09):
Tona Loa and the other guy. I can't think of
all the ship. It was just on my tongue too,
at the gates of that gates of agony? What a
big part of the embassy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Yeah they were, So.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
They're still around and even though they had an issue
with Swerve a year and a half ago they could
come back out, because that is an embassy symbol. That's
not just a Swerve thing. That's an embassy thing. So
I couldn't invoke the gates of agony to come out
and just beat the crap out of him and take
it back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Shane, what did you have?

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Oh no, no, no, I lost my train of thought.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Okay, boy, we're just losing our train of thought like
crazy here. I was really happy that. I mean, we
knew when Ricochet was in the ring, and when Swerve's
music hit, I loved it it was Prince Nana that
came out and not Swarves Strickland. I really loved that
because again it was something different, you know, And that's

(01:02:13):
just the way I feel about it. I I think
that that made it taking nothing at all whatsoever away
from Swerve, but just having Prince Nana come out there
and get face to face with with Ricochet, it legitimized
Prince Nana quite a bit tonight for people that don't
have a lot of experience with Prince Nanna, because for

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the longest time he just seemed like a Luther kind
of character where you just held the ropes open for Swerve.
You know what I mean. So this established something for
Prince Nana. Now, it established history for people that don't
know when.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
It's not a wrestle I have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
But it was a really, really really old wrestling match,
because I looked it up about six months ago to
see if I can find him wrestling, and yeah, I
mean it was an old old match to be honest
with you. It wasn't like a full match either. It
was just like a highlight thing, so it really didn't

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get a much out of it, right like thirty years
ago or what. It didn't have a date on it.
But you can tell from you can tell like when
you're watching like a NFL highlight, you can tell when
it's in HD, and you can tell when it's you know, potato, yeah,
you know, and this match was kind of in the

(01:03:42):
potato realm, not HD.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Of course. It may have been an indie match that
was fairly read, you know, more recent than you would expect,
and they just had you know, poor chemic crawl quality
and it was done by somebody with the Sony Erickson
cell phone in the crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I can't remember if there was announcers or anything else
like that. I just remember you know that it was
not the greatest quality and it wasn't much too. It
was only like thirty five seconds, you know, so right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
That proma was really good compared to the stuff that
Ricochet did in WWE. He's really elevated his game with
the promo stuff and I like it. I love it actually,
like I can't wait for his character to evolve more
and more. I love seeing that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, uh, Ricochet rules right now. I could care less
about anything that he did in the fud and I
think he had his moments over there, but I think
he just picked up the ball where he dropped it
when he transitioned to that company back into what he
was doing. I think he's fantastic. And Prince Nanna, by
the way, was a Ring of Honor original in twenty ten,

(01:05:00):
debuted in two thousand and one. I think his first
match was as a jobber somewhere on like a Saturday
night WWE program.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Yeah, well, Ricochet, what was he was? Prince Adidas or
Prince Nike.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Prince Puma?

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Okay, I know it was one of the shoes, Prince
New Balanced.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Gersh wow, Prince s Ketcher.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
There you go, and uh yeah, in case you didn't
know swerving Ricochet actually did. When they were both doing
their Lugit organmmicks. They did. They weren't. They did underground stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
On luch Underground. You know, they were like quite the
thing in Lucha Underground too. It wasn't like a one
and done thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Good program, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
It was like Sammy and Steen, or it was like
Generica and Stein for Ring of Honor back in their
early days. It was very adjacent to that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Uh, the battle with that is one of the greatest
matches of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Uh yeah, Well, let's move on to the final match,
which was Roderick Strong versus Orange Cassidy. Look, I didn't
have problem with this match. It was great to see
Orange Cassidy back. They had a decent match. I just
and I mentioned this last night. It's gonna be Kenny
Omega versus Kenoski Takeshta at Revolution. Anything less is a waste,

(01:06:35):
Well not a waste, it's a missed opportunity. It is
a complete missed Why are they doing this weird mini
tournament for I just don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
I what I don't get. What I don't get is
why do you put Kenny as the final in this
instead of Takeshta, Orange should be facing Kenny next week
and then the winner goes on to face Dukeshia. It
makes no sense to put the champion the match to
decide if he gets to be the champion against the OGA.
I thought that was, like, what are they doing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
It's like they've already given.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Yeah, like I said, but they this whole thing doesn't
make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
To me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Again, they shouldn't have this match was okay, but and
it was fine that they had it, but they didn't
need to make it an international whatever the heck, what
do they call it an international something or another? Who cares?
It's gonna be Takeushta and Omega and anything less. It
would be a ripoff to any aw fan. And considering

(01:07:40):
that Revolution is two weeks away, two and a half
weeks away, you don't need to make the card any
more in doubt than it needs to be. I mean,
I'm talking. I'm sorry, but if I bought a ticket
to go see Revolution after they've already announced her a

(01:08:03):
challenge when Omega challenged Takeshta on Grand Slam, to me,
that seemed like it was pretty cut and dried, And
if I bought a ticket to Revolution based on that,
and it doesn't happen now, and I get Roderick Strong

(01:08:24):
versus Takeshta or Omega or Orange Cassidy against Taqushta or Omega.
I'm gonna be a little pissed off. Nothing can get
Stronger Cassidy. But I want to see Omega Takeshta. That's
the match.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yeah, And they could have used the time that they
took for this match in next week's match and added
who knows anything else. It could have been a TBS
title match. It could have been a TNT title match,
it could have been a trio's match. I mean, they
could have had so many different matches they could have
put in there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Yeah, I mean why not. Why not have Borge Cassidy
or Roderk Strong against Daniel Garcia for the T and
T Championship tonight would have made much more sense. Or
even have this match for the number one contender for
the T and T Championship, that would have made much
more sense to me. Shane, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
There is zero focus on the T and T Championship
right now. I mean, like, yeah, we've seen Daniel Garcia
once in the past two months, Like do anything relevant
over the weekend before last. I mean, it's just like
they're in a constant state of shit or get off
the pot with the T and T Championship, and it
hasn't looked decent since it was on Christian I just

(01:09:41):
wish they would find a way to if they're going
to elevate Daniel Garcia by putting a belt on him,
why is he not on television?

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Like why exactly? No, I absolutely agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
And you just did the same thing to Private Party.
Not gonna lie. Those boys should have been defending their
belts on every single Dynamite as the Dynamite Tag Team
Champions and it was a ball completely. I completely dropped
with them. I mean the Tag Team Championships being on
the Hurt Syndicate looked great better just because they stagnated

(01:10:14):
that this is a problem we see with these titles. Man, Sorry,
I'm sorry. I apologize for the tangent.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Well, it comes down to the biggest problem with Danny
Garcia is when they gave him the title, if they
knew it was going to be in the C two,
he should not have been given that title. He should
have been put on somebody else. Yes, it's been almost
two full months since the C two has been over.
But it comes down to a lot of it comes
down to they don't have time. They're trying to put
way too much stuff into shows, and they just don't

(01:10:42):
have time to put everything in. That's the biggest problem
they have. Although with these two matches with Takeshta and
Rae Cassidy Dill and this one they had last tonight,
there's a room that you didn't have to do. You
could have made that room for him. You've got all
these different matches and you're not doing it. They had
a for you match with them. I don't think he's

(01:11:02):
defendit it this year. He's defendit that did he defendant
in a four way or that was a pay per view?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
I can't remember because he's just not visit. Like Shane said,
he's just not visible. He's forgotten. And up until Saturday
night when Tony Storm beat Mariah May, Daniel Garcia was
the only babyface that has a AW belt that he's
simply not used. So all the belts for the longest

(01:11:33):
time in aaw were heel belts, and I'm sorry, but
we got to get some babyfaces with belts that I
really do believe that. Because this isn't the nineteen seventies anymore,
you have to do some fan service. You've got to
give people a reason to cheer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
I really believe that, right, Well, I mean they did, right,
I mean, is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
No, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I said they did. Just put a world championship back
on Tony Storm. You're gonna tell me that AW isn't
catering to the fans of some degree.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Well, look, I mean I just I said that they
put the belt on Tony Storm. They are catering to
the fans. But how long before Corny Storm had had
that win did a babyface of any kind of notoriety? Yeah,
Daniel Garcia is a babyface, but he hasn't defended the title.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
All I'm saying is that it's it's good TV to
give fans a reason to cheer, because I'm sorry, but
I don't want to watch a show where the heroes
lose all the time. I mean, Tony Storm is an

(01:12:53):
example of fan service. Great, But before Tony Storm won that,
it was basically all heels. Now, there was a time
when before Daniel Garcia won the TNT title, it was
all heels. And I'm gonna be honest with you, it's
not an aw problem only because at the same time

(01:13:16):
that aw belts were held by all heels, the WWE
belts were held by all heels except Jade Cargill and
Bianca Blair, but they were used less than Daniel garcias,

(01:13:37):
so they were like insignificant almost in their title run
because they just they weren't doing anything again, similar to
what Daniel Garcia was doing and what the Treo's Championships
were doing until last week.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
They definitely need to add another show. I mean, you
just don't have enough time with only four hours of
wrestling a week to get everybody that you want to
see on shows. That's the problem. Until they figure out
a way to change that or add another show, they're
gonna have this where you're gonna have titles that gets stagnant.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It makes you miss Dark and Rampage, right because yeah,
some degree occasionally they would utilize Rampage as a device
to do story things that segue maybe into Collision or
a pay per view's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Dark's missed because go ahead finish.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
No, we we share the same sentiment. I could almost
I know why Dark has missed, but let everyone else.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Know, yeah, Dark's missed for the simple fact is everybody
that was on the roster that might be mid carter
or lower got time. I mean Penelop before it started there,
she got most of her time when it was going on.
When she first started on Dark. Britt Baker got a
lot of time on Dark.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
That was one of the things that they really should
have did with Jake car Gill was put her on Dark,
she would have got possibly a lot better. But when
you only had, like I said, you only have four
hours a week, you get a maximum of ten matches. Yeah,
unless you're doing Trio's matches every match, you're only going
to get twenty to thirty people involved in matches every week.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
And the roster is how big.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I mean, it's just there's just they've got to come
up with a new show or go to three hours
on one of the shows.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
They have to look I mean, yeah, MKA made a
really good point in the chat. The acclaim were very
very visible on Dark there. You know, look the women's division,
a lot of the women's division were on Dark. Julia
Hart was and a Jallow sky Blue they were, you know,

(01:15:52):
they were very very visible on on Dark and much
more so than the Well I say this, I mean this.
I loved not so much Dark on Mondays, but Dark
Elevation on Tuesdays. I loved Dark Elevation because I had
a little bit more better quality matches I think on

(01:16:13):
Dark Elevation that they did on Dark, but Dark Elevation
I enjoyed that much more than Grand Page on most weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
To be honest, I didn't really watch a lot of
Rampage because to me, there wasn't a whole lot of
matches on there that meant anything. It was kind of
like a dark on regular television. But it still gave
you a chance to have another three matches a week.
Did you just not get in anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Yeah? Well, look, I want to wrap this up, but
before we do, I want to ask everybody on the
panel great school grades A to F. What would you
rate this episode of aew Dynamite who wants to go first?

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
I give it an A?

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Okay, yeah A as well, I get I give it
a solid A. It was a great effort. Uh huh, yeah,
just hit on all cylinders a effort.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Yeah. Well, you know I am always the person that
is the differing voice in this panel because I am
more I am more critical of a w then probably
is even necessary. So my grade for tonight's episode of
aw Dynamite is an A wow. I mean, this was

(01:17:48):
probably one of the best. I mean even Max Senator
Max had to leave because he was at work, But
even Max Senator earlier, and he's a w WE fan,
he said this is probably the best s AW Dynamite
he's scene in quite a while. And I agree with them.
This thing wasn't perfect. They had some areas in here
that I didn't enjoy as much as others. The John

(01:18:10):
Moxley thing, I didn't really enjoy it, but it had
to be done. I'm not gonna hold that against them.
I thought the show was an a as well as
what everybody else said here is it a okay? We
didn't There wasn't much complaining here tonight. We enjoyed it

(01:18:30):
and I'm looking forward to seeing Gabe Kid against uh
Max Caster on Now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
You know what's gonna happen on Tuesday. If that doesn't happen,
we're all gonna blame Jane Dane.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
If that doesn't happen, I'm coming after you, buddy. You've
got me chosen for it. I'm gonna call you so
many names on discord Chat.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I want to shout out the people that were sitting
at speaking about Chad sitting in the district discord Chat.
I know there's a we have some interlopers today. Man,
you guys kept the chat active cool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Yeah, and I apologize for not reading out a lot
of the stuff that you've been saying. But you guys
that are in the chat, and anybody who's listening, you're
welcome to hit that little button to raise your hand,
turn on your mic and join us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
This is this is what we do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
We encourage people to well, Sez, I'm Sleezy. The podcast
is over. Oh my god, say come on, man, believe me.
Believe me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
It's very believe me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
And I know you did it as a joke, and
so this is mean said as a joke. Nobody wants
to hear what Sleezy has to say. We did talk
about the opps. You missed it. We talked about it
last We talked about it tonight. We you missed it.
Actually we didn't talk about it last night because we

(01:20:06):
were too busy, uh doing last night. So but we
did talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
But anyway, for everybody, that's listening or in the chat.
Raise your hand. We're here on Tuesday night at eight
forty five Eastern. We're here right after Dynamite on Wednesday nights.
Raise your hand. We don't bite, except for Sutton. He
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(01:20:35):
I guess, I don't know, but I don't even want
to tell you what I do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
With poo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Well, Steve is scary because he's the quiet one. The
quiet ones are always the most insane. They sneak up
on you and stab you to death. But better watch out,
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Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
To have.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
We just encourage participation. That's what the a fat Hub
community is about. Community. So of course there are a
couple of people that we don't want to participate. You
know the trolls I'm talking about, you know, the Internet trolls. No, No,
you're going, well, you saw what happened on Ignition last night, But.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
That wasn't that was that was that was to be honest,
that was something that was needed.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Yeah, that was a we didn't for people that are
listening last night on Ignition. Uh, the NNL went at
each other like it was just a catfight for beginning
to end. Nobody agreed with anybody. Everybody was screaming at
each other. Uh and uh, we just chalked that up

(01:22:14):
to everybody just venting and getting whatever they needed to
get off their chest. It was probably needed. Uh. It
wasn't malicious or anything like that. I don't want to
get that impression, but it was a cluster f put
it that way. I mean, there was nothing to salvage

(01:22:35):
from that show last night. It was awful, and I
think everybody could pretty much fully admit that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
The second half wasn't so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
No set down.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Once we settled down and got back into the real show,
it was fine.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
No, once we ran every half the people that are
on the panel off, it got to be fine. And
that has nothing to do with the people that left
the panel last night, because I'd be like, if I
could have left, I would have left. But I'm the

(01:23:11):
host and I'm recording it. So it was as bad
I mean I respect the people that left last night
because they were the smart ones. They're like, screw this,
you know, yeah, that case of the chance that I
wanted to leave, he's stuck around. I mean, it was Blieby.
One of these days, I may I have I didn't

(01:23:31):
even download it, so I don't even have it. I
may download it and just like share it with like
Shane or something, because yeah, Shane, it was just embarrassing.
It was nothing like the night Show. It was nothing
like the night Show.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
I always missed the fun stuff always.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Yeah, this was not fun at all, Shane, No, it wasn't. Yeah,
but anyway, way, look, thanks for listening again, don't be shy,
join us and just join in the conversation. We generally
don't bite, and we respect everybody except for last night

(01:24:14):
only bites. Look, I fully think if I have to
pick out a bighter in this pandel right now, Steve,
I'm sorry, it's you, because you're just doo damn quiet.
You're scary. I'm gonna stay you're you know, you're like
you're you're like the quiet serial killer type. You scared

(01:24:39):
a crap out of me. Anyway, thanks for listening, guys,
forty a w FAT podcast team. This is Kelson, good night, everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
I guys,