July 11, 2025 • 29 mins
In this fiery episode of All On Front Street, Jaguar Wright and Wolfgang Amadeuz hold nothing back as they break down the Essence Festival 2025 fiasco — from last-minute cancellations and chaotic performances to the lack of professionalism that left attendees frustrated and disappointed. Then they set sail into the storm surrounding Carnival Cruise Line’s controversial new rules, which have triggered a social media tsunami. From dress codes to behavior bans, are these guidelines targeting Black passengers, or are they just holding up a mirror? Jaguar and Wolfgang ask the hard questions:
🗣️ Is this cultural bias, or are we refusing to hold ourselves accountable?
🛑 At what point do we say enough is enough and raise our standards? Tap in for raw truth, real talk, and righteous smoke.
If you can't handle the heat, get off the front street.
🗣️ Is this cultural bias, or are we refusing to hold ourselves accountable?
🛑 At what point do we say enough is enough and raise our standards? Tap in for raw truth, real talk, and righteous smoke.
If you can't handle the heat, get off the front street.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
All Right, here we go, Episode three, All Out on
Front Street with Jira right in wolf Gang. I'm a days,
I'm in the building, and we're just gonna go ahead
and just dive right into the topic. So are we
going to talk about the Carnival Cruise band? And you
know the backlash and the outrage that's going on with
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what you know?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I mean, I think we should because the truth is,
there's been a lot of hype in the conversation around it.
There's been a lot of unnecessary outrage in my opinion,
and I think a lot of the core communication that
we needed to be having about this is why did
they feel it necessary to need to republish these things
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that they said have been rules, because that's pretty much
what the cruise line is saying.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Correct. Yeah, So for those who don't know that there's
been a they said they well, a few public social
media posts came out and said, oh my god, Carnival
Cruise they laid out some new rules and there's no
bluetooth speakers. There's a band on cannabis, there's a band
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on fans, and they're basically saying, you know, all these
bands are you know, targeted to the black community. You
know a lot of black people go on these Carnival
cruises and they have parties, they have family reunions, et cetera.
And I guess a lot of people are kind of
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feeling a certain type of way where they're like, oh, well,
Carnival is now saying you can't do this. You can't
do this, but we used to be able to do this.
They banned fans, they bands marijuana, they banned bluetooth speakers,
They have a curfew. You know, children under twenty one
are really not allowed on like unaccompanied, like solo solo
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passengers twenty one and under are not allowed. But yeah, yeah,
people are. There's an outrage all of a sudden because
of these rules that have always been around, but I
guess now they're you know, uh, you know, being being
talked about with amongst social media, big social media platform.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
What can we pull it up and see what the
rules are.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And let's just take a candid, honest look and see
whether or not the outrage is deserved. And once again,
what is I don't understand this. Black people are now
being banned. Let's just be honest. Black people keep these
cruises going. I truly doubt they're trying to run away
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black money as much black money gets pumped into these
very very very white corporations like I don't rule.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Those are the rules, Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Bluetooth speakers the curfew? All right.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Carnival has banned the use of bluetooth speakers in public areas. Well,
let's just be honest about that. If I'm on a
cruise and I'm trapped there and somebody is on the
cruise with me and we're out there in the water
and there's you know, I want to be out there
and somebody's playing some music that I'm not interested in hearing,
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then I don't see what the problem is. More importantly,
don't they have music that they play. They hire entertainers
and all of that stuff to be there, So I
don't see what the big deal is. And the truth
is is most people have either earbudds or headphones, So
I don't see why not being able to play your
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music out when you can still listen to your music
is an issue like it's I remember back in the day,
you know boomboxes. Oh man, everyone love their boombox and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
But the truth is a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Will go and they would play their boomboxes an inappropriate area,
lasting music, last and sound. So for the person that
doesn't want to hear your music, how is that a
bad thing?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
There's no specific there's no band on specific music or dances.
Because they were saying that hip hop was band but
that's not true, and the wabble dance isn't isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Really that's what they're saying really now, see, it would
make more sense to me if they said that twerking
was banned.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That would make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Because the truth is a lot of these people get
drunk and they start dancing in ways that's very inappropriate
with children presence.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Alcohol consumption limits, Okay, Carnival is enforcing strict limits on
alcohol consumption. I don't understand how that is a bad thing.
There should be a limit. You're on a boat, yeah,
what if something happens with the current.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Of the water?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
People fall over boats? Ye, all of the time. And
not only that. If they put a limit on it,
it's probably guaranteeing that miners are going to have a
harder time getting their hands on alcohol, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So and people are bringing their own alcohol, and I think,
I don't know. Okay, so that's not on there. But
they said something about the food. But what about food, Well,
I guess there's like, you know, no fried chicken, no, no,
not so if you like, if you go to an
all inclusive this is not a ship, but just an
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all inclusive hotel where you could just eat what you want.
And I don't know if they were saying people were
taking the crab legs to their rooms and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I mean, I've known a few church ladies to throw
biscuits in their purpose.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
There you go, right, so okay, yeah, we just I mean,
we just got to do better.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But it's not even about in cannabis. It's not cannabis cruise.
It's carnival cruise.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And we talked about that like before, Like if you
want to have these experiences where you're doing things that
aren't on the large scale of society, then you need
to find boutique venues that do stuff like this.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Like I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I don't understand why it needs to be like cruises.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I don't think people really understand cruises.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're you're there's a lot of people on this one
vessel and you're stuck out there.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But god knows how.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Long for some cruises, like if you go to uh,
they have cruises in the Mediterranean where you you dock
on in one city and it'll take you to different
cities throughout maybe six or seven days, not just out there.
You go to a different city, you know, a Biza
or somewhere Italy or you know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Hey, but we're talking about Carnival. Last time I checked,
Carnival ain't over there and Itiza.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh no, the carnivals mainly what Gulf of Mexico and
on you know, the west coast, you know, from the Encinnada,
stuff like that, right right, So but but okay, so
carnival is different of course. So I don't think you
really go you're not going to different see, I think
you're just out there in the Gulf of Mexico for
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the most part. But a cruise that I will go
to is something like go to different cities. Like I've
been to Cure Side. I've been a different I mean,
I flew to Cure Side. But I'm saying I can
see why people would go on these boat cruises. Get
off on Cure Side, get off in the Ruba, get
off you know that's I like that. But yeah, but
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if you're if you're stuck in, if you're stuck on
the boat, it's gonna be a different experience.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And you're stuck there with a bunch of people that
you don't know, some people that you do know. You
have too much outlcohol, too many substances, people sneaking substances on.
There's a lot of people that dibble and dabbling pills
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
People acting out of control.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But the minor band, for me, I'm not understanding why
that would be an issue, like unaccompanied miners under the
age of eighteen. No, No, And the truth is is
that shouldn't even be something that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Needs to be restricted at seventeen years old.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, if you got a bunch of seventeen year olds on,
I wouldn't want my seventeen year old kids wandering around
on a shiite where they have alcohol, where some people
might have brought in some stuff. No, I would want
my kids around me.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I would. Honestly, all of this sounds like y'all need
to do better. Rules, you need to do better. Rules
you need to like you shouldn't have to tell people.
You shouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Ban fans because there's instances of people being drunk, having
too much to drink and then wanting to stick they
fan up in people's faces, well, flicking their fans, annoy people.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It just it just all sounds like people need to
do better.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
The black folks in general, we used to didn't. There's
certain stuff you didn't even have to tell black folks. There,
there's a ethics morale, there's all that that that just
we were raised.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
A decency standardency.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right, you know, but now it's kind of like ratchet
culture is quote unquote black culture when it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
No, it's it's not, and it shouldn't be being sold
as such.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, but it is.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And then you hear these stories and all breaking news
carnival cruises turning on black people and whooped, whoopedy woold.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
What that sounds like is someone in the media is
trying to push a narrative to get black folks to
not go to the carnival cruises or to support Now,
they said carnival cruises, you know, think about this stuff.
You have like a certain limit. I think average cruise
was could be about about fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars
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something like that. But if you if they said the
cruises that these people are going on with like seventy bucks.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, see, that sounds like the food stamp cruises, right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Sorry not and god, God, if it's a food.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Stamp cruise, then you know, yeah, I don't know, I
don't know. I avoid cruises for these reasons.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
This is the like every band that they have here
I agree with. This is the reason why I don't
get on No carnival cruises. This is the reason why
everything that they're putting here. I don't want to be
stuck around your unattended miner who's sitting there cursing and
hollering and screaming. Who got some adult person to sneak
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them a drink that they got from the bar. While
they're sitting there a drink and smoking their wheed and
playing a wild crazy music, talking all kinds of stuff
on it, like I would not be wanting to spend
money for that experience.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
G yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And it sounds like all of this stuff goes hand
in hand.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Like I'll just say it like this, Black folks, and
I'm talking about our people because I'm from America. In
this country, black folks, let's start putting our people in check.
We can't just allow the FS and y'all know what
I'm saying, because I'm gonna try to keep a PG
to just continue. You know, I've had nieces who's you know,
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I have a problem with how they raise their children.
I put them in check. Maybe, oh you tripping, No,
I'm putting your in check because you know that ain't
how it's supposed to be. You ain't supposed to expose
them to this X, Y and Z or whatever. You
got an untie who's out there on some y'all put
her in check. See, the thing is in our community,
though I don't think there's certain people we don't want
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to check.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We've lost our filter. And and that's the thing. We've
lost our filter. And for someone who is as off
the chain as I am, I understand there's certain things
that don't need to be pushed on certain people.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Like it's we need a filter.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Like I hate to say it, we've just gotten to
the point where we need to be checked.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
We need to filter. If I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Want my kids listening to your crap music, if I
don't want to be there to see your children acting
crazy like.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You should we shouldn't. We should want better for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh no, No, we're gonna get there, as though we
do gotta get rid of just like I say, there's
a lot of deviant uncles in our community. There's a
way that we could just get rid of that situation.
I have a but we'll we talk about that month.
You know, so people that understand, yeah, but but but
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are people just as a whole as to getting back
to that you know, you know about the thing called
black fatigue, right have you heard about that?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Where break it down?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
They're saying, oh, you know a lot of these places,
industries or what they're having black fatigue, meaning, uh, they're
tired of black people coming there, and it's because of
a certain type of black and and the quote unquote ratchet.
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But it really is just it's it's it's the mindset. Look,
I'm a believer in what Francis chres Welson can say
about you know, like black people, we should, you know,
wherever we live, we shouldn't throw trash in our neighborhood.
Like we should take pride in ourselves. We should, you know, uh,
take pride in our parents like we used to. Even
though if you were a quote unquote poor black person
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back in the forties, fIF fifties, sixties, you still had
your Sunday best. You still you would present yourself a
certain way. You know what I'm saying. We got to
get back to that. And it's nothing for us to
just show ourselves as decent people. I think the ratchet
ones are more prevalent now though. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Well, the question is is who wants that to be there?
Like oh, we know on this list false information people
circulating social media posts about the new rules that aren't
true fake news. Yeah, and we have a lot of
people that do that, like that AI post that we
saw the other day with them comparing a deceased star
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to a living star and say that this person passed
the torch. Like, we just got way too many confusing
narratives and themes running around and none of it have
anything to do with us. What I do wish is
that we care more about our family values. I do
wish that we cared more about just who we are
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as a people, because that part it's lost, and it's
lost in the sea of ratchetness.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well that's why you got certain content creators right now
who could put AI video of black women that are
just doing the most ratchetest thing and it's AI and
people and it's it's real and but but but it's
accepted like someone uh did an AI of a oversized
black woman going into the McDonald's yelling at the worker like,
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you gotta get my fright, you got like and it
was and it's accepted that if they did a Jewish
woman like like just a man, if they did any
other race of women like that a caricature people that
could flip.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Out, so that community would come out, yeah and freak out.
Everyone else stands up for the you know, for what's
best or for you know, the better look of their people.
Except for us, we just accept anything. We just let
it go that way.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And we got to start asking ourselves why.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Well, the people who put together a lot of this
stuff online, these these think tanks and the ai that
they're all anti black. They're all anti they're just anti black.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So and it's definitely an agenda, and we need to
look at that. And the next time we see posts about, oh,
this company is lashing out on black people, like before
we start posting it and before we start sharing it,
how about we get into the mindset of let's research
this ourselves, take a look at it. Because they want
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that energy, they want you to jump on that. And
we got to stop allowing our buttons to be pushed
to push agendas that the people that ain't for us
want us pushing. Yeah, it's serving their agenda, Like we're
really allowing ourselves to be manipulated into working for the enemy.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now, speaking of we're gonna speak on the speak on
essence Fest and what Stephanie Mills have to say about
Essence Fest and the situation with Lauryn Hill. Now, shout
out to Stephanie Mills, Shout out to Lauryn Hill. They
both performed at Essence Fest Friday, July fourth, twenty twenty five.
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But they said Lauryn Hill showed up late. They made
it seem as if you know, because that's the thing
that she's an habitual she comes to performances late. That's
that's that's that's that's what they're saying that that has
that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
But I know that for a fact. I saw it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And the thing is is she was not a lot
of people were being honest about what all of that
was about. She's been She's one of the artists that
I can honestly say when I look back at it
now that has been severely gas lit in her career.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, now I can see why. And she's talented us
all outdoors, right, she was the reason why. So what
happened is at the Caesar Dome, she was scheduled to
perform there that night of.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Essence as the closing act.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Closing act. Now, by the time she came on, they
said people had already left. It was pretty empty. She
was performing to an empty stadium. It was two thirty
in the morning. I've been at I was at Ansence
Fest last year, and usually the closing acts twelve one
o'clock comes on. You know, you get a good hour,
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maybe an hour and a half. That's good enough. Everybody's
out of here.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Everybody should be out of there by two thirty. The
last act shouldn't be going on at two thirty.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I got three questions, But who was the head of production?
Number one?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because production should have been on that Like there's a
whole staff, especially for events that large in arenas of
that size, and with you know, Essence Festival being the
marquee black event that all of the black people flocked
to in the summertime, Like who's running production?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
There's no way they should have let that happen.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Now, it's one thing if stage time was one o'clock
or call time was twelve forty five and she wasn't
there and they were looking for her for an hour
and a half before they were able to get started,
But that's not what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She was ready, she was there. Even Stephanie Mill said
that the production they just technical issues, didn't they didn't
run it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Right, and she was in the super lounges where production
should be a lot easier to rue. Yeah, and I'm
telling you what, it's sounded like. It's sounding like this
is a management issue, and it's really for real, for real,
sounding like sabotage. Because there were other performers who performed
who didn't get screwed over in this way, and whose
performances weren't compromised in this way, it started to feel
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like maybe.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It sounded like sabotage to me.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, the the new Essence Festival CEO, this is this
is an African woman, Carlen Wanga. She's the presidents of
Essence Ventures. There's been some recent online discussions and scrutiny
around the Essence Festival. She's currently on leave as a
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role as a CEO. Though.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Oh she went on leave after this.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I guess yeah, Oh wow, it was that bad that
she had to go to time out.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah. She they they're gonna they're reassessing. They maybe they're reassessing.
But since she started, and you know, you see there's
another you know, another person is a Tubman Ziolo. She's
the C, the C the C CEO, the see the
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chief Community officer at at SENSE. These are Africans and
no offense to the Africans, but you know, I think
there's an issue when it comes to Africans being inserted
in African American companies businesses, just like there are Africans
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who were I would call them tethers or hand picks
in Hollywood. The guy who played Martin Luther King, he's
the African God. The guy who played in uh Snowfall
African God.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
There seems to be some kind.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Of it's it's it's almost silent movement. It's a takeover
because if you got a person like me, if I'm
the head of an organization, see look y'all, let me tell
you about me. I was a manager at a movie
theater in the South Bay when I was a teenager.
When I was getting out to high school. Pretty much
in high school getting out of high school, I hire
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nothing but black folks.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
They didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
They got me up out of there. They had some
Hispanics get me up out of there. So don't get
it twisted. That's the reason why I am the way.
I don't hate nobody or nothing like that. But if
you're anti black. I don't rock with you at all.
I just say we always get the short end of
the stick for the most part. So of course I'm
gonna look out for mind just like everybody else. They
look out for theirs. But when you have people like me,
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if I'm at an organization, they're gonna do what they
can to make sure these type of people don't rise
in the ranks. But they will put a person like
you know this Caroline Wanga in charge of a black
you know in Essen's been around for a long time.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, Essence has been around for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
But the question is what is the relevance of the
Essence Festival anymore?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Really, what people I think should be asking because at
this point in time now it seems as though Essence
Festival is more of, uh, I guess, a symbol than
actually something real. Like I think we talk about it,
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you know, it's kind of like, uh, it's our our
our woodstock.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like, you know, the these these events that we have,
they they take on a life of their own and
then the name becomes this. But we really don't pay
attention to what it's really all about anymore. What's really
driving it, what's really moving it, what makes it relevant
to the culture anymore? And if you're bringing in people
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that really, really really aren't there for the culture, like
what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Well? Let me let me, let me take it back.
They're saying, Carolyn is American, Caroline Wanga is American. That's
what they're saying. But the chief community officer that I
had mentioned African. But there's a lot of Africans in
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the Essence Venture, right, So all I'm saying is, yet,
like you said, what's the real relevance of yeah, of
Essence Now? It's a good question.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm trying to figure it out, because the truth is is,
I really don't know that many people that read the
magazine anymore. I really don't know that many people that
it's what does it stand for? You know, once upon
a time it was about black women and empowering African
American women and bringing up the best in this and
bringing up the best in that. But I see a
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lot of pandering. I see a lot of you know,
there's a lot of favoritism. It seems more about bank
exchange than it is about you know, celebrating.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
African American women. And yeah, it just it doesn't feel
that way. Yeah, not to me anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And the truth is, you know, I just yeah, I
think it's more about the money than it is about
the culture. And I think, you know, when you hear
people like Stephanie Mills complaining about, you know, oh my goodness,
the sound was terrible and it was really awful, and
you hear about them having a headliner like Lauren Hill
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who probably hasn't performed an Essence Festival in that capacity
and god knows how long, like they should have been
taking very good care of that. They should have been
making sure that that performance was set up, and instead
they allowed people to just run over time and run
over time and run over time like's it doesn't seem
like they really cared about the event.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Let's follow the money. Essence Communications, the parent company of
Essence Magazine, was acquired by Spencer's llocy from Time So Time.
You guys know Time, that's that's media, that's media, media,
big time. And yeah, see that. You gotta follow the money.
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Are they uh, you know, black owned company? Now it is,
it is, but it wasn't so uh you know Ebony magazine. Yeah,
but that's worse Ebony. I'm know what I'm saying, ebony
is is up under Time, right so yeah, so so
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maybe it's the whole thing and where they just you know,
they just want to make uh essence Like I hate
to say it, but like like a media takeout. How
about that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
What it sounded to me is is that it was
being ran better when it was owned by Time magazine
now the Time magazine.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
And it is gone, it's falling apart. That's what it
sounded like.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, I mean that's it. We're not gonna talk about
the other stuff we weren't talk about. Let's leave that beat.
But for the most part, well, no, we can.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
We can just do another.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
No, yeah, I can flip it over. I can take
that and make it another one.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
We're gonna have a whole other episode because we got
some more wild.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's a lot more. But overall yeah, no, yeah, no, no,
we gotta do better. That's pretty much what we gotta do,
even in our businesses. I forgot about the shade moisture.
Uh that's what happened. Shade moisture of founder and CEO
Bias Essence from Time. That's that was a power move,
huge power and that's what that's what I'm talking about.
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But now look at what they're doing. Now, they're they're
they're running it into the.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Ground, into the ground.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
All Right, here we go, Episode three, All Out on
Front Street with Jira right in wolf Gang. I'm a days,
I'm in the building, and we're just gonna go ahead
and just dive right into the topic. So are we
going to talk about the Carnival Cruise band? And you
know the backlash and the outrage that's going on with
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what you know?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I mean, I think we should because the truth is,
there's been a lot of hype in the conversation around it.
There's been a lot of unnecessary outrage in my opinion,
and I think a lot of the core communication that
we needed to be having about this is why did
they feel it necessary to need to republish these things
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that they said have been rules, because that's pretty much
what the cruise line is saying.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Correct. Yeah, So for those who don't know that there's
been a they said they well, a few public social
media posts came out and said, oh my god, Carnival
Cruise they laid out some new rules and there's no
bluetooth speakers. There's a band on cannabis, there's a band
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on fans, and they're basically saying, you know, all these
bands are you know, targeted to the black community. You
know a lot of black people go on these Carnival
cruises and they have parties, they have family reunions, et cetera.
And I guess a lot of people are kind of
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feeling a certain type of way where they're like, oh, well,
Carnival is now saying you can't do this. You can't
do this, but we used to be able to do this.
They banned fans, they bands marijuana, they banned bluetooth speakers,
They have a curfew. You know, children under twenty one
are really not allowed on like unaccompanied, like solo solo
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passengers twenty one and under are not allowed. But yeah, yeah,
people are. There's an outrage all of a sudden because
of these rules that have always been around, but I
guess now they're you know, uh, you know, being being
talked about with amongst social media, big social media platform.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
What can we pull it up and see what the
rules are.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And let's just take a candid, honest look and see
whether or not the outrage is deserved. And once again,
what is I don't understand this. Black people are now
being banned. Let's just be honest. Black people keep these
cruises going. I truly doubt they're trying to run away
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black money as much black money gets pumped into these
very very very white corporations like I don't rule.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Those are the rules, Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Bluetooth speakers the curfew? All right.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Carnival has banned the use of bluetooth speakers in public areas. Well,
let's just be honest about that. If I'm on a
cruise and I'm trapped there and somebody is on the
cruise with me and we're out there in the water
and there's you know, I want to be out there
and somebody's playing some music that I'm not interested in hearing,
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then I don't see what the problem is. More importantly,
don't they have music that they play. They hire entertainers
and all of that stuff to be there, So I
don't see what the big deal is. And the truth
is is most people have either earbudds or headphones, So
I don't see why not being able to play your
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music out when you can still listen to your music
is an issue like it's I remember back in the day,
you know boomboxes. Oh man, everyone love their boombox and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
But the truth is a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Will go and they would play their boomboxes an inappropriate area,
lasting music, last and sound. So for the person that
doesn't want to hear your music, how is that a
bad thing?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
There's no specific there's no band on specific music or dances.
Because they were saying that hip hop was band but
that's not true, and the wabble dance isn't isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Really that's what they're saying really now, see, it would
make more sense to me if they said that twerking
was banned.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That would make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Because the truth is a lot of these people get
drunk and they start dancing in ways that's very inappropriate
with children presence.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Alcohol consumption limits, Okay, Carnival is enforcing strict limits on
alcohol consumption. I don't understand how that is a bad thing.
There should be a limit. You're on a boat, yeah,
what if something happens with the current.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Of the water?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
People fall over boats? Ye, all of the time. And
not only that. If they put a limit on it,
it's probably guaranteeing that miners are going to have a
harder time getting their hands on alcohol, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So and people are bringing their own alcohol, and I think,
I don't know. Okay, so that's not on there. But
they said something about the food. But what about food, Well,
I guess there's like, you know, no fried chicken, no, no,
not so if you like, if you go to an
all inclusive this is not a ship, but just an
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all inclusive hotel where you could just eat what you want.
And I don't know if they were saying people were
taking the crab legs to their rooms and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I mean, I've known a few church ladies to throw
biscuits in their purpose.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
There you go, right, so okay, yeah, we just I mean,
we just got to do better.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But it's not even about in cannabis. It's not cannabis cruise.
It's carnival cruise.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And we talked about that like before, Like if you
want to have these experiences where you're doing things that
aren't on the large scale of society, then you need
to find boutique venues that do stuff like this.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Like I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I don't understand why it needs to be like cruises.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I don't think people really understand cruises.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're you're there's a lot of people on this one
vessel and you're stuck out there.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But god knows how.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Long for some cruises, like if you go to uh,
they have cruises in the Mediterranean where you you dock
on in one city and it'll take you to different
cities throughout maybe six or seven days, not just out there.
You go to a different city, you know, a Biza
or somewhere Italy or you know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Hey, but we're talking about Carnival. Last time I checked,
Carnival ain't over there and Itiza.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh no, the carnivals mainly what Gulf of Mexico and
on you know, the west coast, you know, from the Encinnada,
stuff like that, right right, So but but okay, so
carnival is different of course. So I don't think you
really go you're not going to different see, I think
you're just out there in the Gulf of Mexico for
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the most part. But a cruise that I will go
to is something like go to different cities. Like I've
been to Cure Side. I've been a different I mean,
I flew to Cure Side. But I'm saying I can
see why people would go on these boat cruises. Get
off on Cure Side, get off in the Ruba, get
off you know that's I like that. But yeah, but
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if you're if you're stuck in, if you're stuck on
the boat, it's gonna be a different experience.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And you're stuck there with a bunch of people that
you don't know, some people that you do know. You
have too much outlcohol, too many substances, people sneaking substances on.
There's a lot of people that dibble and dabbling pills
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
People acting out of control.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But the minor band, for me, I'm not understanding why
that would be an issue, like unaccompanied miners under the
age of eighteen. No, No, And the truth is is
that shouldn't even be something that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Needs to be restricted at seventeen years old.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, if you got a bunch of seventeen year olds on,
I wouldn't want my seventeen year old kids wandering around
on a shiite where they have alcohol, where some people
might have brought in some stuff. No, I would want
my kids around me.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I would. Honestly, all of this sounds like y'all need
to do better. Rules, you need to do better. Rules
you need to like you shouldn't have to tell people.
You shouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Ban fans because there's instances of people being drunk, having
too much to drink and then wanting to stick they
fan up in people's faces, well, flicking their fans, annoy people.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It just it just all sounds like people need to
do better.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
The black folks in general, we used to didn't. There's
certain stuff you didn't even have to tell black folks. There,
there's a ethics morale, there's all that that that just
we were raised.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
A decency standardency.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right, you know, but now it's kind of like ratchet
culture is quote unquote black culture when it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
No, it's it's not, and it shouldn't be being sold
as such.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, but it is.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And then you hear these stories and all breaking news
carnival cruises turning on black people and whooped, whoopedy woold.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
What that sounds like is someone in the media is
trying to push a narrative to get black folks to
not go to the carnival cruises or to support Now,
they said carnival cruises, you know, think about this stuff.
You have like a certain limit. I think average cruise
was could be about about fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars
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something like that. But if you if they said the
cruises that these people are going on with like seventy bucks.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, see, that sounds like the food stamp cruises, right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Sorry not and god, God, if it's a food.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Stamp cruise, then you know, yeah, I don't know, I
don't know. I avoid cruises for these reasons.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
This is the like every band that they have here
I agree with. This is the reason why I don't
get on No carnival cruises. This is the reason why
everything that they're putting here. I don't want to be
stuck around your unattended miner who's sitting there cursing and
hollering and screaming. Who got some adult person to sneak
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them a drink that they got from the bar. While
they're sitting there a drink and smoking their wheed and
playing a wild crazy music, talking all kinds of stuff
on it, like I would not be wanting to spend
money for that experience.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
G yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And it sounds like all of this stuff goes hand
in hand.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Like I'll just say it like this, Black folks, and
I'm talking about our people because I'm from America. In
this country, black folks, let's start putting our people in check.
We can't just allow the FS and y'all know what
I'm saying, because I'm gonna try to keep a PG
to just continue. You know, I've had nieces who's you know,
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I have a problem with how they raise their children.
I put them in check. Maybe, oh you tripping, No,
I'm putting your in check because you know that ain't
how it's supposed to be. You ain't supposed to expose
them to this X, Y and Z or whatever. You
got an untie who's out there on some y'all put
her in check. See, the thing is in our community,
though I don't think there's certain people we don't want
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to check.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We've lost our filter. And and that's the thing. We've
lost our filter. And for someone who is as off
the chain as I am, I understand there's certain things
that don't need to be pushed on certain people.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Like it's we need a filter.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Like I hate to say it, we've just gotten to
the point where we need to be checked.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
We need to filter. If I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Want my kids listening to your crap music, if I
don't want to be there to see your children acting
crazy like.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You should we shouldn't. We should want better for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh no, No, we're gonna get there, as though we
do gotta get rid of just like I say, there's
a lot of deviant uncles in our community. There's a
way that we could just get rid of that situation.
I have a but we'll we talk about that month.
You know, so people that understand, yeah, but but but
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are people just as a whole as to getting back
to that you know, you know about the thing called
black fatigue, right have you heard about that?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Where break it down?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
They're saying, oh, you know a lot of these places,
industries or what they're having black fatigue, meaning, uh, they're
tired of black people coming there, and it's because of
a certain type of black and and the quote unquote ratchet.
(14:38):
But it really is just it's it's it's the mindset. Look,
I'm a believer in what Francis chres Welson can say
about you know, like black people, we should, you know,
wherever we live, we shouldn't throw trash in our neighborhood.
Like we should take pride in ourselves. We should, you know, uh,
take pride in our parents like we used to. Even
though if you were a quote unquote poor black person
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back in the forties, fIF fifties, sixties, you still had
your Sunday best. You still you would present yourself a
certain way. You know what I'm saying. We got to
get back to that. And it's nothing for us to
just show ourselves as decent people. I think the ratchet
ones are more prevalent now though. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Well, the question is is who wants that to be there?
Like oh, we know on this list false information people
circulating social media posts about the new rules that aren't
true fake news. Yeah, and we have a lot of
people that do that, like that AI post that we
saw the other day with them comparing a deceased star
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to a living star and say that this person passed
the torch. Like, we just got way too many confusing
narratives and themes running around and none of it have
anything to do with us. What I do wish is
that we care more about our family values. I do
wish that we cared more about just who we are
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as a people, because that part it's lost, and it's
lost in the sea of ratchetness.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well that's why you got certain content creators right now
who could put AI video of black women that are
just doing the most ratchetest thing and it's AI and
people and it's it's real and but but but it's
accepted like someone uh did an AI of a oversized
black woman going into the McDonald's yelling at the worker like,
(16:32):
you gotta get my fright, you got like and it
was and it's accepted that if they did a Jewish
woman like like just a man, if they did any
other race of women like that a caricature people that
could flip.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Out, so that community would come out, yeah and freak out.
Everyone else stands up for the you know, for what's
best or for you know, the better look of their people.
Except for us, we just accept anything. We just let
it go that way.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And we got to start asking ourselves why.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Well, the people who put together a lot of this
stuff online, these these think tanks and the ai that
they're all anti black. They're all anti they're just anti black.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So and it's definitely an agenda, and we need to
look at that. And the next time we see posts about, oh,
this company is lashing out on black people, like before
we start posting it and before we start sharing it,
how about we get into the mindset of let's research
this ourselves, take a look at it. Because they want
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that energy, they want you to jump on that. And
we got to stop allowing our buttons to be pushed
to push agendas that the people that ain't for us
want us pushing. Yeah, it's serving their agenda, Like we're
really allowing ourselves to be manipulated into working for the enemy.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now, speaking of we're gonna speak on the speak on
essence Fest and what Stephanie Mills have to say about
Essence Fest and the situation with Lauryn Hill. Now, shout
out to Stephanie Mills, Shout out to Lauryn Hill. They
both performed at Essence Fest Friday, July fourth, twenty twenty five.
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But they said Lauryn Hill showed up late. They made
it seem as if you know, because that's the thing
that she's an habitual she comes to performances late. That's
that's that's that's that's what they're saying that that has
that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
But I know that for a fact. I saw it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And the thing is is she was not a lot
of people were being honest about what all of that
was about. She's been She's one of the artists that
I can honestly say when I look back at it
now that has been severely gas lit in her career.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, now I can see why. And she's talented us
all outdoors, right, she was the reason why. So what
happened is at the Caesar Dome, she was scheduled to
perform there that night of.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Essence as the closing act.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Closing act. Now, by the time she came on, they
said people had already left. It was pretty empty. She
was performing to an empty stadium. It was two thirty
in the morning. I've been at I was at Ansence
Fest last year, and usually the closing acts twelve one
o'clock comes on. You know, you get a good hour,
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maybe an hour and a half. That's good enough. Everybody's
out of here.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Everybody should be out of there by two thirty. The
last act shouldn't be going on at two thirty.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I got three questions, But who was the head of production?
Number one?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because production should have been on that Like there's a
whole staff, especially for events that large in arenas of
that size, and with you know, Essence Festival being the
marquee black event that all of the black people flocked
to in the summertime, Like who's running production?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
There's no way they should have let that happen.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Now, it's one thing if stage time was one o'clock
or call time was twelve forty five and she wasn't
there and they were looking for her for an hour
and a half before they were able to get started,
But that's not what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She was ready, she was there. Even Stephanie Mill said
that the production they just technical issues, didn't they didn't
run it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Right, and she was in the super lounges where production
should be a lot easier to rue. Yeah, and I'm
telling you what, it's sounded like. It's sounding like this
is a management issue, and it's really for real, for real,
sounding like sabotage. Because there were other performers who performed
who didn't get screwed over in this way, and whose
performances weren't compromised in this way, it started to feel
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like maybe.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It sounded like sabotage to me.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, the the new Essence Festival CEO, this is this
is an African woman, Carlen Wanga. She's the presidents of
Essence Ventures. There's been some recent online discussions and scrutiny
around the Essence Festival. She's currently on leave as a
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role as a CEO. Though.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Oh she went on leave after this.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I guess yeah, Oh wow, it was that bad that
she had to go to time out.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah. She they they're gonna they're reassessing. They maybe they're reassessing.
But since she started, and you know, you see there's
another you know, another person is a Tubman Ziolo. She's
the C, the C the C CEO, the see the
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chief Community officer at at SENSE. These are Africans and
no offense to the Africans, but you know, I think
there's an issue when it comes to Africans being inserted
in African American companies businesses, just like there are Africans
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who were I would call them tethers or hand picks
in Hollywood. The guy who played Martin Luther King, he's
the African God. The guy who played in uh Snowfall
African God.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
There seems to be some kind.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Of it's it's it's almost silent movement. It's a takeover
because if you got a person like me, if I'm
the head of an organization, see look y'all, let me tell
you about me. I was a manager at a movie
theater in the South Bay when I was a teenager.
When I was getting out to high school. Pretty much
in high school getting out of high school, I hire
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nothing but black folks.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
They didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
They got me up out of there. They had some
Hispanics get me up out of there. So don't get
it twisted. That's the reason why I am the way.
I don't hate nobody or nothing like that. But if
you're anti black. I don't rock with you at all.
I just say we always get the short end of
the stick for the most part. So of course I'm
gonna look out for mind just like everybody else. They
look out for theirs. But when you have people like me,
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if I'm at an organization, they're gonna do what they
can to make sure these type of people don't rise
in the ranks. But they will put a person like
you know this Caroline Wanga in charge of a black
you know in Essen's been around for a long time.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, Essence has been around for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
But the question is what is the relevance of the
Essence Festival anymore?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Really, what people I think should be asking because at
this point in time now it seems as though Essence
Festival is more of, uh, I guess, a symbol than
actually something real. Like I think we talk about it,
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you know, it's kind of like, uh, it's our our
our woodstock.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like, you know, the these these events that we have,
they they take on a life of their own and
then the name becomes this. But we really don't pay
attention to what it's really all about anymore. What's really
driving it, what's really moving it, what makes it relevant
to the culture anymore? And if you're bringing in people
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that really, really really aren't there for the culture, like
what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Well? Let me let me, let me take it back.
They're saying, Carolyn is American, Caroline Wanga is American. That's
what they're saying. But the chief community officer that I
had mentioned African. But there's a lot of Africans in
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the Essence Venture, right, So all I'm saying is, yet,
like you said, what's the real relevance of yeah, of
Essence Now? It's a good question.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm trying to figure it out, because the truth is is,
I really don't know that many people that read the
magazine anymore. I really don't know that many people that
it's what does it stand for? You know, once upon
a time it was about black women and empowering African
American women and bringing up the best in this and
bringing up the best in that. But I see a
(25:50):
lot of pandering. I see a lot of you know,
there's a lot of favoritism. It seems more about bank
exchange than it is about you know, celebrating.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
African American women. And yeah, it just it doesn't feel
that way. Yeah, not to me anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And the truth is, you know, I just yeah, I
think it's more about the money than it is about
the culture. And I think, you know, when you hear
people like Stephanie Mills complaining about, you know, oh my goodness,
the sound was terrible and it was really awful, and
you hear about them having a headliner like Lauren Hill
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who probably hasn't performed an Essence Festival in that capacity
and god knows how long, like they should have been
taking very good care of that. They should have been
making sure that that performance was set up, and instead
they allowed people to just run over time and run
over time and run over time like's it doesn't seem
like they really cared about the event.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Let's follow the money. Essence Communications, the parent company of
Essence Magazine, was acquired by Spencer's llocy from Time So Time.
You guys know Time, that's that's media, that's media, media,
big time. And yeah, see that. You gotta follow the money.
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Are they uh, you know, black owned company? Now it is,
it is, but it wasn't so uh you know Ebony magazine. Yeah,
but that's worse Ebony. I'm know what I'm saying, ebony
is is up under Time, right so yeah, so so
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maybe it's the whole thing and where they just you know,
they just want to make uh essence Like I hate
to say it, but like like a media takeout. How
about that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
What it sounded to me is is that it was
being ran better when it was owned by Time magazine
now the Time magazine.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
And it is gone, it's falling apart. That's what it
sounded like.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, I mean that's it. We're not gonna talk about
the other stuff we weren't talk about. Let's leave that beat.
But for the most part, well, no, we can.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
We can just do another.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
No, yeah, I can flip it over. I can take
that and make it another one.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
We're gonna have a whole other episode because we got
some more wild.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's a lot more. But overall yeah, no, yeah, no, no,
we gotta do better. That's pretty much what we gotta do,
even in our businesses. I forgot about the shade moisture.
Uh that's what happened. Shade moisture of founder and CEO
Bias Essence from Time. That's that was a power move,
huge power and that's what that's what I'm talking about.
(28:45):
But now look at what they're doing. Now, they're they're
they're running it into the.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Ground, into the ground.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Well yeah, another sad measure of endeavor. Indeed, all right, peace,
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