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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome back to Always Ageless, where we celebrate vibrant living
at every age. I'm your host, Valerie Van is over
and today's conversation is one that might hit close to
home for many of us. Were joined by Tyler Price
from Idaho, and he is a realtor there. But it's
much more than that. Tyler is someone whose life took
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a powerful turn when he became a caregiver for his family.
He walked away from his career of several years to
provide care for his loved ones, and through that experience,
he found a new purpose helping older adults in their
families transition through life situations with compassion and clarity. Today,
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Tyler is not only guiding seniors through real estate decisions. Actually,
that's just not even a huge part of his business.
His life is also involved with developing wellness product that
he believes could support brain health and keep us all healthier.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
He's going to tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
He's here to share his journey, the lessons he's learned
from caregiving, his work with seniors, and his passion mostly
just for making a difference both in housing and health
and family. So, whether you're planning your next chapter or
whether you're helping a loved one in theirs or you're
just curious about the heart behind the work, stay with us.
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You're going to love this conversation. Welcome Tyler Price to
Always Ageless.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Thank you, Valerie. So I'm very blessed to have met you,
and you took an hour out of your time to
help me and answer questions, and then you invited me
on and I'm very grateful for that.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh, You're so welcome. We're glad to have you.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And you know, Tyler, when I started this program, my
goal was to have people like you to share their
journeys of how they're either helping their family or either
you are the senior, or you are the adult child
of aging parents, or you're helping other people and their families.
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Are you're helping other kids that are your age who
are dealing with their families and they don't know what
to do. So you are exactly the person that I
wanted on my Always Age's program.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So I'm really glad that you're here today.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, thank you. I'm grateful to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You have quite a story and again you're you know,
you're kind of my ideal person because You've got so
many elements of your life to talk about. You have
your family, and your family is not only your parents,
but your own children and your wife life and all
the things you're involved with that, but also your business
and how that's evolved, and your personal journey.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So let's just get started. Let's talk about who are you?
How did you get started? You had a couple of businesses.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, No, The starting part of it really happened
back when my dad was sick with diabetes and he
had kidney failure, and my wife and I had three
kids at the time, and we actually moved in with
my parents and helped them or helped him deal with
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parent needal dialysis, so that's what they do with one
way in which you can clean your blood at home
and your body, and just kind of helped him until
he was ultimately able to get a kidney transplant. But
so that happened, my wife had to go actually back
to work, and she's a cosmetologist by trade, and I
was staying home with three kids, and then we had
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a fourth while we were there because life wasn't stressful enough, right, so,
and you know, so it was doing homework with kids,
it was getting kids to school. It was watching little babies,
it was doing parent needle dialysis was where you hook
your your patient, who happened to be my dad, up
to fluid three times a day, so you drain fluid
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and insert fluid into this bag that's in their cavity.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
And anyway, it was hard.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And I remember my older brother calling me one time
and just seeing how I was doing, and I couldn't
even talk to him because he's like, well, what's going on?
And I just started to cry and I didn't want
to cry in front of my brother, so I couldn't talk.
And he's like, well, what is wrong? And I was like,
it's never going to get better, was all I could
say at that at that moment.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
But it did.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
My dad did get a kidney, and you know, we
were able to move out of their home. He was
able to kind of start the journey of being able
to take care of himself. In twenty twenty, he did
ultimately pass, but you know, he fought a long journey
with diabetes and really poor health, which then kind of
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started me on a path of not wanting to get
diabetes myself, because that's a disease that just takes your
life away slowly as it did for him. So but anyway,
that while I was home and my wife was working,
she was working in a hair school. She's a cosmetologist
by trade, and then we ultimately started our own hair
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school in Idaho and ran that for fifteen years and
then sold it. Wow, And that's how I am where
I am now. But coming back to watching my dad,
you know, not wanting to be to end up with
diabetes and poor health. You know, I was pushing three
hundred pounds and could barely walk up our stairs. And
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so I got into microgreens and that really helped me
and just exercise and I dropped eighty pounds and I
was doing well. And just along the journey, I just
keep looking for more and more things that helped me,
and then I try to get other people to do it,
because I know, if you're slightly overweight, if you have diabetes,
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if you have even cancer, some of these things can
really aid and assist and even cure on top of
what doctors can do for people. And so that's what's
kind of got me into where I am today. With
just a side project of dealing with Kiefer, which is
a fermented milk that helps with gut biome, our probiotics
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and sprouts and microgreens and just all that in addition
to being in real estate as well. But anyway, so's
I just threw up really quick. But yeah, but you
might have a comment or point, So.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, we're going to talk about the greens in a
little while because I'm going to talk about that separately.
Certainly that's fascinating them, and everybody on this caller is
watching or listening wants to know how to be healthier
and certainly how to lose weight.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't know anybody that doesn't want to lose weight.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
We included so so tell us, So you left your
you left your work, stayed home with your dad for
three years for you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yep, well a little better in three years. Yeah, and
it was you know, you look back on it now
with fondness because I did get to spend a lot
of time with my dad before his passing, but it
was it really was difficult at the same time. So
but I think that's life. I don't think that's unique
to me. I think that's everybody has some struggle that
they're going to go through at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So what we do and being caregivers, you know, as
you've discovered caregivers at all different levels. You know, some
of your family members were not here with you in
Idaho with you, so they wanted to be helpful maybe
or maybe they didn't right, And you were the one
that was the closest, so you were the one that
took on those responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I know I can relate with my dad.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We had there were four of us children, but I
was the one that was the closest to him at
the end of his life. And I'm still so grateful
that I had that opportunity to be with my dad.
And there were situations that my sister was a favorite daughter,
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and I certainly never was. But you're a beautiful pianist.
And my dad used to say, oh, why don't just
let your sister play the piano. He never wanted to
listen to me, But she was sick as he was
getting old, and and because she was, that gave me
an opportunity to be closer to him, and I was.
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You know, I'm so glad I had those times with him,
just like you with your dad.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, I had a lot of plus to it, and
my siblings were all great.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I have four them.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I'm smack dab in the middle because I have seen
families that it is a power struggle or whatever issues
they have going on. But my siblings were very great
and supportive and helpful in all aspects.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So I guess my question to you would be, and
this is a big question, is what things have did
you learn from that that then now you pass on
or you wish all of your everybody else knew?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
What do you wish you could share with everybody?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, don't take your family for granted because they will
be gone at some point. Get over any sort of
issues you have, sit down and hash them out with
family members. Luckily, I can't say that's really been a
big thing in our family, but you know, family, family matters,
and we drive each other nuts, but we really are
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there for each other when times are tough. I believe,
I hope. But then, really, the biggest thing I think
I took out of it too is you know, we
can do hard things. Everyone is designed our bodies and
minds are designed to do hard things. And it's no
fun to do hard things. I'd rather just sit on
a beach and leisurely live my life, but that's not
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you know, Idaho has no beaches, but we do have
great lakes and rivers.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
But but that's just not what life is.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Designed to be. And it's a struggle, and it's a
roller coaster. So you know, when you're at the top,
learn to put your hands up in the air as
you come plummeting to the bottom and then just know
it's going to go back up to the top again.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So and so many times we deal with and in fact,
one of the issues really involved with aging is the
family dynamics. Yes, right, is that we know so many
of us know that my mom isn't but my mom
could be in you know, in Wisconsin, and I'm here
and I know I need to do something for her
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and I'm not able to. And so my question would
be to you when you must have people the same
thing when they're when they're I think we only have
police cars drive by here when I'm on a radio show,
not me. It happened all day yesterday. So when you're
talking with family members, what advice do you give to them,
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whether either the children live close to you or the
parents live close to you and they're separated.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, so that's a big issue, and I think there's
something that I'll say to people when either I can
do it or you can do it, but we both
can't do it, and we both wouldn't do it the
same way. So as people take roles, and typically so
whatever those roles may be, it might be that someone
has power of attorney for the financial aspect of the parent,
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or someone then another one might have the physical power
of attorney for the parent. But whatever your role is,
and then you know, a couple others don't really have anything,
but we're all chiming in. But you know, for me,
it is, hey, you do need to get together and
you need to have zoom calls, and then you need
to start talking to professionals because this is recently what
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we've gone through with our mother. Our dad had, you know, physically,
some very poor health, and our mom has always been
super healthy.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Her mom lived one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Three and and she's you know, always been you know,
thin and has been very active. But now cognitively she's
sliding a little bit. She still recognizes everybody, but there's
times where grandchildren she maybe doesn't remember her name, or
you know, she kind of knows what family they go to,
and and it's sad to see. But we started to
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help our mom too late, and it went from her
being in her home and us trying to get her
into a program called Mind for All Seasons. Not to
plug somebody else's business, but they've seen some really great
things with reversing dementia and Alzheimer's. But we were about
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I think about six months too late. So our mom
ended up falling, breaking a hip, not being able to
keep herself. We had to ask her not to drive
anymore because she brushed up against a pedestrian as she
was driving on her in her neighborhood. And then anyway,
so it is as a family you need to In
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our case, I think no one wanted to take complete
charge or we just didn't take the action that needed
to be taken. And it's not even to say that
it would have worked, but we kind of have a
feeling of wow, we started a little late. So then
we had to put her into an assisted living center
and the one that is near her house is fantastic,
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but she wants to know when she's going home, and
you know, she's eighty three and she should be able
to be in her home, but she can't. She cannot
remember to feed herself. She can't get her medications right,
she can't, you know, she definitely can't drive anymore. And
so as a family you need to realize that roles
are reversing and if you don't take action, then there's
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going to be a fall.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Again, she felt she's broken both hips at this point,
but she's rebounded nicely from it. However, you know, it's
just it's not what you want, because once a hip
gets broken, there's statistically a higher probability that they pass
within a short period of time.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But as a family, you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Need to get united and realize that that not everyone's
going to agree and whoever is put in charge, you know,
the peanut Galleries just need to keep their mouths shut
and let them run with it because they're doing their
best too. And assisted living centers are great. Obviously, I
think most people would prefer to age at home, but
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that's not it's just isn't possible, and there tends to
be in this scenario, usually one child who's still nearby,
and that's a big undertaking for that child to have
to do all the help. And honestly, it's not an
ass that I think. I mean, it's hard to say,
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you know, hey, I need to support and love my parent,
but they also have to live their life and deal
with their own family and things like that. Right, So
it is as a family is get united quick and
take action quick, because ignoring it and saying, oh, mom's
in good health was our case. But her cognitive decline
has been so detrimental to her that she lost a
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lot of weight, she fell, broke a hip, she wasn't
probably taking her medicine right, she definitely wasn't eating right,
and she suffered because of that. And then we were
able to finally take action. And now she's in a
much better place. So I just rambled on and I
know you have great That's perfect.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Don't you think that that we all we have a
viewpoint of what we think a caregiver is. We think
a caregiver is a person that you pay to come
into the home, or is at the place where your
parents live, the assisted living community or wherever, and a
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long for a long time, I don't think we accepted
the fact that we are caregivers. Yes, and now I
say so often to my husband it is official.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We are caregivers.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm blessed that my husband is so good with my mom.
My mom's the last of the four parents. She's one
hundred and five and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But yet we go there every day. My husband goes
there every day. We don't get paid for being a caregiver.
You don't get paid for being a caregiver. And you
want to include everybody, you know, you want everyone to
feel like you're doing a good job. But like you said,
you can only do what you think is the best
thing to do. You're the person on the spot, and
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you get you know, it's your decision to make yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, and it's again it's one that you definitely don't
want to even admit to. I think we kind of
wanted to say no, she's healthy, so everything will be fine,
but then you know, it's just it wasn't. And we
then talked about it for probably six months before we
finally started to take action. And then by the time
we took action, then again she fell and broke a hip,
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and then it was like, wow, she here we are.
And anyway, it was you know that when you move
a parent into assisted living, they want people to stay
with them for the first few nights. And so she's
in Salt Lake City and so I went down from
Idaho and stayed with her the first night, and she
doesn't remember that and that was only like maybe two
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months ago. But I so we slept on the same bed,
and I remember, as a little kid, like really small,
my parents, you know, sleeping in their bed was way
better and less scary than sleeping in my bed. But
they hated it. They wouldn't let it happen. And my
mom would say, no, you toss and turn too much.
And anyway, that night, I don't think I slept at
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all because she was shaking, she was rolling around, she
was talking all night long.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
It was the worst night.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So it just comes full circle, right, So parents don't
want to let their little kids sleep in their bed.
And I can guarantee you don't want to sleep in
the same bed as your mom or aging parent because
you're not getting any sleep that night.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And the other thing we have to deal with, Tyler
is our spouses. Yeah, right, our spouses. You can say
they didn't buy into this, but they did. You know,
when you get married and you take on a partner
and a family, it's the whole family. Yes, it's not
just half of a family, but it's challenging, and sometimes
I find myself wondering would I be as gracious as
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my husband is. And we haven't tested it because his
parents died when they were in their late nineties.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, my mom's.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Seven years later is still alive, right, so I didn't
have to.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Make those choices.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And it's not an easy thing to have to be
able to deal with the other spouses.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, no, and there's a lot of support and that's
kind of where on the real estate state side. That's
why I want to support seniors, but it's more supporting
their children because so I do have a network of
people that are going to do the things that I'm
not really qualified to do. So if the parent can
age in place, well, then we need to make the
house safe for them. We need to put handrails in,
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we need to make toilets easier to get on and off.
We need to have furniture that allows them to stand up,
we need to have ramps, and you know, some level
of care probably and if it's assisted living, then we
need to have that discussion and look at selling the
home so that mom or dad can go into assisted
living and get the help that they need. And so
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there's just a lot of that having gone through it
and not knowing what to do and and really learning,
trying to learn quickly, but still trying to live your
life right. And and then when you finally say no,
we got to figure this out, it can be too late.
So so anyway, I'm put together a whole group of
people in my area here in Idohoa Falls, Idaho that
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work with seniors all the time and are here to
support them in whichever direction they're going to go.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And then I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Help people deal with with aging parents because it's it's
a whole aspect of life that you that you weren't
aware of when you when.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
You got married right right.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And I have to say last summer, my older brother
and I we were up at a wedding of a
nephew in Oregon, and we drove up. We have an
aunt that lives in Longview, Washington, which is near the
Oregon Washington border.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
So we drove up.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
We went to our grandparents' gravesite, and then we went
over to her house and I hadn't seen her for
probably five years maybe, but she opened the door and
I swear I thought it was my grandmother when she
was standing there and she had us in and we
were talking. The one thing that she said that really
stuck out to me, and she passed away this summer
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or in the spring, but anyway, she said, you know,
from the time that grandma died to today, that time
went really fast. So we're going to be learning how
to take care of our parents, but we better be
building the relationships with our children and have a plan
because the time from now me being fifty six to
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when I'm going to be in the same position as
my mom, that time's going to go very quickly. And
that was coming from someone that had lived it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So and what.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Happens is that we put our law as the adult
children of aging parents, which we didn't know that's what
we were going to become, right, I mean, I thought
by now my parents would be gone. And I actually
when I was their age, I was, you know, your age.
I thought I was old. Right now, I don't think
I'm old at any rate, you know, So we have
so we do put our lives on hold. And I
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hear this all the time from people saying, what happened
to my retirement?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Right, we haven't been.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We used to travel all the time, We haven't traveled,
we haven't been on a major vacation since my dad
died seven years ago, because who will stay with my mom?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Right, and so what happens to us?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And again, you know, but in our case, we keep thinking, well,
my mom is one hundred okay, well then just under
one hundred and two hundred three, how much longer can
she live?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well, is wait till next year to take that vacation.
She's still alive.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But even in your case, so you put your lives
on hold a little bit. So this is really an
issue because I'm watching a movie which will be sponsoring here,
actually Wine Women in Dementia, where a lady made connections
of people around the country who were, like you, caregivers
of their aging parents who had dementia, and their experiences
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and their questions were, I don't know how much money
I need because I don't know how long she's going
to be an assistant living. I don't know how long
they're going to live. I don't know what kind of
decisions to make, right And you must face that also.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, no, And I think that the kids, that's going
to be one of their biggest questions is how do
we have paid, how do we pay for assisted living?
Which when you if you were to pencil it, if
they have somebody with mom or dad for you know,
forty hours a week or something, that's going to be
way more money than assisted living. And anyway, but it's
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it is, that's going to be one of their questions.
And if hopefully mom and our dad has a home,
because then there's you know, can they age in home?
And if the answer is no, then okay, how do
we get the most out of this home so that
they can afford to live in assistive living? And that's
that tends to work. I'm going to say, it's still
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kind of a scary place to be. Luckily, our mom,
you know, she's my dad, did well and she's taken
care of. But but yeah, that's not the case for
most right and so now it is man, how do
how do we as a family afford this? And hopefully
they have that asset that they then can fall back
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on if assisted living is where they need to go.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So well, and the.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
One thing I think that is the most underused program
is reverse mortgages. Yes, yeah, that people don't understand it.
It used to be a really bad program. Now it's not.
But actually people can stay in their home for less
than they would be paying in rent somewhere else. You
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might need a caregiver, you know, and the problem with
an an in home caregiver is, okay, so I have
somebody come three or four hours in the morning, But
what happens if mom falls a non.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, yeah, no, and that's and it's just the easiest
thing that they being a fall risk is just going
to happen, right, and and so yeah, that that is
definitely you know, reverse mortgages and things like that can
definitely keep people there. I mean, that's definitely something that
has to be explored. But we just have to look
at the health of the parent and say, to your point, Okay,
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so when someone's with them, they're fine, but if they're alone,
are they fine? And if the answer is yes, then
age in place. If the answer is no, then then
we have to really start looking into what is best
for them. And they don't always like the idea of
going into assisted living, but it's what's best for them.
And there's actually a very social aspect to it and
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a very structured aspect that again helps with the dementia
and the Alzheimer's is putting someone on a really good
routine schedule is one of the things that helps with that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So anyway, and the guilt that we go through, and
you must have experienced this where you drop off your mom,
I don't. I don't know that. I I don't know
that I'll be able to do that. You know, we're
talking having that discussion. We kept being my mom would
live long enough. She is and she just shouldn't be
by herself anymore. Can I drop her off and leave her?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't know. It'd be pretty hard to do, worse
than taking her keys away.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
But the one that my mom's in, the people that
live there, they love it and they're very social and
and then and my mom's not, so that's that's kind
of uh right, yeah, but she's forced to be, and
I think that helps her. So she's she'll she also
is someone that will tell you what you want to hear.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
So it's like, so, how's it.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Going, Oh, I really like it here, and and it's
like okay, but really, so I'll always say quit lying
to me, mom.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You know, But but she says she really likes it.
I hope.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So it's a great facility, and so that those aspects
that they're not getting at home, living on their own
though of so and talking to people and doing things
like that then then become part of it. So it
has to the stigma of assisted living needs to kind
of be go away, because it's really just they're just
moving in and now they're part of a community.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
That's what it needs to be looked at us. Yes, there,
you're in, and you're you're a part of a community.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So they are there.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So let's break down all of the options. I'm going
to call you. I'm going to say, Tyler, my mom
lives in your community. I don't think she's safe. I
don't think she should be by herself anymore. She owns
a house, my dad's gone. What do you think I
should do? So there's lots of options, So let's go
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through those options.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
What what kind of things would you say to someone?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
So then it would be getting everybody, all the decision
makers together, So it's a it's a bit of a process.
So if there's just a couple of siblings, then that's
easier than if there's ten, right, But but we need
to get everybody. No, there's there's five total, but this
area does have the big families at times. Yes, So
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it is then okay, where is mom? And and really
starting to bring professionals that excel in things that I
have an under a slight understanding of because I don't
ever want to come across to let me tell you
how to overcome dementia. Now that's that's somebody else's thing, right,
But it is understanding, Okay, what where is mom? What
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is her current situation? What are concerns? And then getting
professionals to come in and just have a consultation and
let's discuss.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Okay, this if we.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Were to come in and do these things for your mom,
this is what we're looking at, and this is what's
going to happen, and and you know some and so
it's really it's hard to answer just oh, this is
step one through step to the end, because every case
will be a little different.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Right, absolutely, I do one hundred percent agree with that.
Everybody's different.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And so that's the thing that makes what I'm trying
to do a little unique. Because there's a lot of
great real estate agents here in eastern Idaho, but they
go about it as a real estate agent. So real
estate agent's going to walk into a home and say, okay,
I need to get pictures, So how do I make
this home picture worthy? And oh my gosh, look at
all the clutter. So you know, that's that's what there is.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's not even the first thing you should even be
talking about.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's no, we're sitting down to talk and have a
discussion and get to know each other and then okay,
these are the professionals that I'm going to recommend that
we start you talking with, and then I'm following up
to make sure that happens. Because again, in my case,
we waited six months before we took action on something
that we knew that we could do six months prior.
And so so that's really I'm trying to hold people's
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feet to the fire because this is a person that
is at risk, and so what is the path? So
if it's the agent place, great, I'm all for that.
As a real estate agent, you know, it's not that
I need to make a sale today, and so it
is okay for' aging in place. Now we need to
make the house safe. Do we need someone to come
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in for Yeah, so let's.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Just take a minute.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So let's just break out for and hold that thought
because we're going back to it for our listeners and
our viewers. What aging in Place means is that Tyler's
going to go into a home with a family and
he's okay that they don't want to sell their house
right now. So that's what you need when you are
having these discussions for yourself, or for your family members,
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or for anyone you know. You need to work with
someone whose interests is you, you and your family, not
getting a real estate commission YEP, or a commission to
move you or whatever. You need someone who is a
senior home coach who's an advocate for you and whatever
is best for you and your family, and that if
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you go away with nothing else today or from all
of my episodes, you need to work with people who
are concerned about you.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Now, go ahead, Yeah, and then it's putting again, getting
the right people to come in and do consultations and
create a game plan of this is how we're going
to go about it. And let's say that it is
though a situation where mom can't afford to go into
to assisted living yet but could, but we'll sell the
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home and and then we'll go well, so my job
is then to help them get some money to then
go ahead and move in. And then my role, because
I already know the stress that the family is under,
is to say, anything in this home that you want,
take anything you don't want, leave it here and then
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and I'll take care of the rest. And then depending
on where the house is, if it hasn't been updated,
if it you know, we're we're going to strive to
get the most out of this home as possible. But
any furniture or anything that isn't wanted, just leave it
behind because the family already has way too much stress
that they're dealing with to have to sit there and
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get rid of fifty years worth of stuff, right So,
so it is then so that's that's the scenario where
we're moving them into a home, but if we can
have them age in place, we're all about that. And
then it's just making the house safe and getting the
support that they need, that mom needs so that she's
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not having falls, and it is getting you know, necklaces
that they're going to have to wear that have buttons
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Right so right, absolutely, so let's talk about aging in place.
So if someone if you if you determine with the
family or with the older person that aging in place
is a good alternative for right now, a good option
for right now. What are some of the things you
would do to make it a good place for them.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
So it is really looking at eliminating falls, because that's
where that's what ultimately killed my my aunt. She she
fell and hit her head and that is how she
passed away. She was doing really well other than that,
I you know, she should still be alive. But so
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it is it's like, just you know, how you child
proof a home, We're going to do the same thing.
We got to child proof this house because because if
there are stairs, man, the basement's probably going to have
to be off limits, and we need to eliminate that
going down and if there's stairs up up you know,
I was just showing a house and a beautiful part
of Idaho right on the Snake River and the and
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the people have.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
That house advertised yeah beautiful.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
And uh and they had a lift. So if they're
if they're wanting to go up and downstairs, if that's
part of it, there are things that we can put
in the homes which you know, they sit in a
chair and it lifts them up and down, and so
we just have to eliminate falls. And then it is okay,
what type of medication and who's going to make sure
that this medication is getting taken care of? And you know,
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making sure eating because that was another thing that my
mom kind of just quit eating. And it wasn't that
she didn't want to eat, it's just that she kind
of was forgetting to eat, right, So it's just all
the things. What is then what's the support group? So
in our area, you know, we have a lot of
neighbors that get close, so it's like, can neighbors come over?
So it's not just the child that has to come
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all over all the time, but we need to have
a very routine schedule of what's going to be happening
when and who's going to be doing it and have
people accountable to do those things. And so then it's
and then again it's getting the professionals in place that
really are going to help make sure a lot of
this stuff gets done and that they get the care
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and the dignity that they need to be taken.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Care of it with.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So and I think you're also familiar with some things
that we call on this program aged well age Tech.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, right, So things.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
There's a program called on Screen, and I think you
have a family member maybe who's involved in something where
they kind of do reverse reverse technology where if someone
takes their dog out every morning before eight o'clock, that's great.
But one morning the dog they don't go to let
their dog out, then they call or check in, maybe
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something's wrong with them. Or there's a program called on
screen that has a little camera that sits on the
top of your television and you can go in from
your phone and just dial in and through your mom's
TV right and say, Mom, are you there? Oh, everything's fine,
So you know, you check that. So they have those
opportunities to check in, and that's one way that aging
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in place can be a little bit safer.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, And that is the great thing about where we
are in this time with technology and with you know,
the baby boomers is a big part of our population,
and it's like the technology came along just in time
for them to be able to.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Utilize it and be safe.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So that's that is a great point to be able
to have those check ins, you know, whether it's physically
or through the technology, to be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yes, So and then you have someone who comes in
and maybe helps them declutter while they're thinking of downsizing.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, because that's definitely something that that if they don't do,
it's going to rely on the family to do. And
again you're talking, and I've seen that when people pass
where the house is just full of stuff and they're
dealing with a funeral and they're traveling in and they
only have limited time to be there, and you know,
there's just there's just a lot of stress that comes
(36:38):
from that. My wife and I just went through this
exercise of downsizing. I think I definitely got rid of
more stuff than she did, but at least one of
us downsized, right.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But we're going through that right now too, So.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
That's definitely something because we all like things and things remind.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Us of whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
But I am to the point now where I've limited
my clothing. I just you know, if I don't wear it,
it's gone. And whereas before I would say, oh, I've
had this shirt since high school, Well so what.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I don't wear it, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Gone, right, And anything that isn't being used on a
regular basis now for me, I just get rid of
and I'll have to borrow or buy.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
A new one.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
If it's really something I need. So yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
We've been trying to go through. But it's not easy.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
It isn't easy.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And for our mom you know, for our moms, and
they have things that they got from their grandma's and
I think most a family thing. And my husband says, well,
I would want to say this stuff because it's our
family history.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We don't need to save our tax returns for twenty years.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
So someone so let's talk about because before when we
chatted before, you mentioned some other things that you do,
which is really exciting, and I want our people to
note these options are available. So when is agent place, okay?
And if the agent place, you can also to help
them with downsizing, decluttering even while they're staying in that home.
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And then you have a team that you can bring
in and help them do whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It is, add lights or you know, aging in place.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
A lot of people think that just means putting grab
bars up, but really it's much.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
More than that.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
More yeah, yeah, so it is.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
And then if they and then there's other things that
you do. So let's say someone wants to stay there
but they really they really need a few improvements to
make it safer. They really don't have the money. What
can you do? You mentioned a lift, that's a great thing,
and a lot of people are doing very easy to
do elevators in home elevators also just for one level,
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So how can you help them?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
So there and and again, now we're getting into the
side of as I bring that vendor, we'll call them vendor.
But this is what they do. You know, these these
guys don't have a lot of margin in these things,
and there is a lot of medicaid assistance that can happen.
So they're doing a lot of and I would say
probably even close to ninety percent of the work that
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they do is maybe break even or lose and then
ten percent they're making money on. But they're going to
come in as professionals and say, okay, are ramps needed,
and you know, we're looking. We're always looking for ramps
and other things as people do pass on that now
is still attached to the home that they no longer
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need to be able to repurpose ramps and be able
to take idea yeah, because even you know, my dad
had a ramp and then my mom was using it
and now she's you know, we're not going to take
her back to the house very often, and but she
she is going to go back to her house for
a visit. But at some point that ramp isn't needed,
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but it can serve somebody else in the in the
process at a reduced rate. So so we are looking
because for some people the money's not an issue and
for others it's a big issue, but they still need
these things. So this group is looking for ways to
be able to serve and be able to do those things,
to be able to facilitate those you know, the actual
physical things of the bars and the and the ramps
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and the lifts, so.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
That lights, lighting.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Lights, and you know, again just even how you move
and sit down and things like that get into a car.
There's special ways for them to get into a car
that reduce fall rates. So and that's what we're really
one of the main things are one of the big
things that we're looking to do here.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And there's even ramps up to a shower. Yeah, not
just to a front door, yeah, ramps from the floor
to the shower. So if you have a step up
or step over shower, there's now ramps you can buy
even at home depot. Yeah, that serves that purpose. Okay,
so we've got they want an agent place, and what
if they need to sell their home. There's some things
(40:50):
that how do you decide whether And Tyler, I think
this is a really important issue, especially as a realtor,
because we know that we are unique in that we
care about the client more than we care about a sale. Yes,
so how do you decide whether it's better to sell
the house as is, whether it all needs to be
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fixed up? Because some agents, just like you said, will
come in and say, all his house needs to be
fixed up.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You need a new kitchen, you need a bathroom.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Well, at the last three I've sold, we haven't done
any of those things, and we still sold them for
top dollar. So how do you make that decision?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
So that I mean, it does depend on the state
of the home, because I do have people that will
buy them as investments cash right there, But we are
going to lose some of the value because of the
work that has to go into getting the house ready
for market. So there, you know, I'm going to pull
on some heartstrings and I'm still going to get them
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as much money as I can get them. But for
the family to come in and you know, that would
be an option too for the family to come in
and have these repairs done. But for every dollar that
they spend, they aren't necessarily making a dollar. They're not
going to get two dollars back. They usually get somewhere.
I think the average is sixty seven cents back for
every dollar spent. So it's not always wise for them
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just take the time and energy and investment into the home.
So it is you know, if maybe the home could
be rented as an income for mom or you know
where These are all the things we definitely are going
to look at from the The one spectrum would be
cash investors that are just going to come and buy
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the house on a wholesale value, but they're getting those
funds early and quick, or we are going to put
it to market and you know, looking at market right now,
this is where the house should be, and this is
where we're going to start and try and get you
top value.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
But it are some simple things you can do, like
you could maybe just replace the carpet, yes, and maybe
you could with one of ours. Here, we just painted
and carpet it and that's all. We did not fix
the kitchen, were not fixed the bathrooms, but that itself.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, it brings a whole different smell into the home
and a different, whole different look into the home and
probably should have been done years ago. And that's one
that you are going to get a good return on now.
I think paint and carpet are easy ones. But if
you're going out back to fix a deck or if
you know, whatever, windows, even you know, I don't know
that you're getting that money back. So it is just
(43:23):
sitting down with the family, because I think that would
be someone's knee jerk reaction is we'll fix the house
up and we'll sell it, and then they put sixty
thousand dollars into the home and they're not going to
get that sixty thousand dollars back.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Right or better? Right? So, yeah, yes it is, and
yeah you can do that.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
However, let's look at this and if we just paint
it and put carpet down and got a lot of
this stuff out, then I think we'd be in a
much better place than really going in and doing everything
that you're that's on the list.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
So, and certainly I think that that fix and flip
there's value to that, But I just think a lot
of times that the money is lost to the client.
It is because someone comes in. When of my clients
got a postcard, you know, we'll buy your house for
eight hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. We sold it for
nine hundred and twenty three thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, that's when you look at the staying power of
them in a facility. I mean that's over a year
year that more that they're getting way over a year,
probably closer to almost two years worth of value of
them staying in an assisted living center.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
So a lot of these guys will come in and, oh,
we'll buy your house, and you know, no real estate commissions,
you don't have to fix anything, but you're leaving so
much on the table let someone like you come in
and make a decision of how's the best way to
market it. And even if it's something as simple as
carpet and paint, didn't you mention that you have a
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way that you can maybe finance that for people or
help them with that.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yes, So that's where and it's another vendor they're willing
to do. And it's not so much even alone with
interest as a is there's a fee that they're going
to charge on the money that they give them, and
it's but it's very fair. And so then we could
come in, we could buy furniture for them for their
new place. They could take furniture from their home and
put it into the into the where they're going to
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be living. We can paint it, and I got a
crew that I keep busy on paint and you know,
carpet and do all that real easily. So it's not hey,
how do I make a buck here? It's hey, how
do I serve this person? Just having gone through it
and getting kicked in the stomach, I just want to
because because a lot of the people I'm going to
be serving are my friends, and it's their parents that
we're looking to serve, right.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
So absolutely, yeah, absolutely any other thoughts about aging in
place or advice that you would give to people, then
I'm want to go to your other business, your health
and wellness business.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
And I think there's also the version that we haven't discussed,
and it would it's it's a version, right, it's an option,
but that's having mom move in with one of the
children and their family, and I think that has a
lot of blessings to it, but it is uh, I
mean it's it's they're not visiting, they're living there. This
is their space too, right, So anyway, that's that's also
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one to be considered and and it's going to be
a lot of work and there's going to be frustrations,
but there's also going to be a lot of blessings
by doing that one as well.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
But are you doing much in your area? And we
look at where you live compared to where we are,
you have so much space around you.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Do you do much with a dus?
Speaker 3 (46:30):
That is just coming into play and so it is
starting like the city that I live in just past
that maybe three years ago. Uh, And so adu's is
definitely something now that that could well serve that, right
and uh they could the family could sell mom's home
building a ADU for very in up here for for
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less than one hundred thousand dollars that we could we
could do a small ADU or you know, a good
ADU with a bathroom and and living space and in bedroom.
And so that definitely and that's an auxiliary dwelling unit
is what an ADU is, or just a little house
back on your property. I know California they had to
really push that because of housing issues, but.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Anyway, they aren't.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
And honestly, I think that ADUs are so misunderstood and
underused because it used to be that it was called
the granny flat, right, and you had to have ten
thousand square foot lot and you had to have so
many feet from the side and the back. But now
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you can put almost anything in a backyard, or you
can add it on the second story, or you can
turn a garage into an adu. Because they were looking
for opportunities for housing so bad here in California, and
why not do that. I just sold the house. They're
going to put two ADUs on it.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Right, Yeah, yeah, no, And it's and again I think
it's a blessing to have your parent that close, but
they'll be challenges at the same time. But that if
that's an option, I think that's a great option.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
And we call that is a gentleman. Daniel Fuchs has
been on our show and he has a company called
Multi Gen Holmes that he talks about this in does
seminars and kind of like you where he meets with
families and offers them these opportunities and then he brings
in a team that does it for you.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Or you can help you do it.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yeah, No, I think that's fantastic too, So.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
You could do that as well, And that is an opportunity.
A lot of people don't think about that, right because
they think that their mom then has to take one
of the bedrooms right of their dad. But actually now
there's so many opportunities to add an ADU. Yeah, that
would be pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
So I mean, these are all the things I'm going
to go in and discuss with somebody. So let's find
the best one, because I still think people have such
a stigma about assisted living that that's not always their
first choice. But I don't think it's one that you
that you can't look at, because really there's a lot
of great assisted living centers out there that are going
to give more social activity than what mom or dad
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are getting currently. But we're gonna find what's best for them.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So let's talk about your health journey. Yeah, and what
brought you into what you're doing now? You actually have
a product that you sell, and so what got you
started with that?
Speaker 2 (49:24):
We have about five minutes, okay.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, and it was just me making a decision that
my dad was just one of my heroes and I
love him still to this day and I and he
used to just tell me, you need to take care
of yourself so you don't end up like me. And
and so that's the again, the first time that I
really because I was always athletic growing up. And then
(49:49):
you kind of slow down and you gain weight and
then you just you still move around okay, but that
extra weight is killing you slowly. And for me, it
was walking up my stairs at my home and getting winded.
And then I just went on this journey of walking
and microgreens at first, and that's all it was. So
(50:10):
microgreens are just taking sprout or taking seed and putting
it on in trays and growing the seed up about
six to eight inches and then you harvest them and
they make really good smoothies or really healthy smoothies. And
I was using a lot of brought broccoli, radish, alfalfa,
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and they all had do different things. And then so
then I lost the weight and I've been able to
keep most of it off. I did go through after
we sold our businesses. I kind of went through some
depression of not knowing what I was doing. And I've
gained some weight back and now I'm back at it again.
But now it's sprouts, micro greens and keifer. So along
the way, I found keifer, and that's Keefer has quite
(50:54):
the story which it originated in the Coxas Mountains in
the Russia, where Russia, Middle East and Asia all blended
together in that area, and they just notice that the
people were living longer in those areas, and they started
studying why and it came out that it was the
keifer that they were drinking and making, and so ultimately
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Russia was able to get key for grains and then
the rest of the world. So all keifer grains originated
from the Coxas Mountains. That you cannot make keifer grains.
So the key for companies that are selling keifer, their
Keefer's really good. But those strains are bacteria and yeast
made in labs and then they introduce it to the
milk and put whatever other ingredients they're going to put
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in the keeper grains that are the keeper that I
make is made from grains, so my my bacteria and
yeast counts are higher, my strains are more, and I
just have a pure product that unless I put sugar
in it, it doesn't have sugar in it. And so
and then it's just helping with gut health. And it
doesn't take much. A little goes along ways and then
(52:01):
these keifer grains just live.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
I've had mine.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
I got mine from a friend just over two years ago,
and I've given out key for grains and mailed keyf
for grains all over the country now and uh and anyway,
I find that when I was trying to give them away,
I couldn't do it. And then when I start charging
people for it, they wanted it. So so I don't
charge a ton of money.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
But we'll buy someone put them on our show here,
so tell us So you sell them?
Speaker 2 (52:25):
They're they're like a powder out do you sell them?
Speaker 3 (52:28):
It actually looks like cauliflour uh, And it's just and
and so I put it in milk and so it's
it's a symbiotic community of bacteria and yeese. So that
that's a that's the acronym for scobie, which is what
people would use to make kombucha, and so it's a
similar thing, but they call it grains. So it's this
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community that's living, growing, consuming the lactose and sugars out
of the milk, and then making like a yogurt type drink.
And then you consume it. I put it in smoothies,
I drink it. I do put it over ice cream,
and it makes the ice cream taste like cheesecake, so
whatever flavor. So if it's cookies and cream, it's like
cookies and cream with cheese cake flavor.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
So I need some of that.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, So I am a proponent of having ice cream
and treats occasionally, but it can't.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Be around I am too, I am too. We have
enjoyed having you so much. Thank you for being You're
ensuring your story. I want you to tell people where
they can find you, and I know that even though
you're in Idaho, I'm in California, and we all have
a network of people all over the country that will
help them with wherever your needs are. So reach out
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to us, to Tyler if you'd like to talk to him.
He has colleagues and network all over the country as
we do, and we're here to be your resource. Here,
I'm always ageless. We want to help you and your
families and your parents live the best life. Ever, how
can people find you?
Speaker 3 (53:59):
So, I'm I haven't built websites yet. That's always one
of those things that I'm going to do. But my Facebook,
Grow your Greens is gro your Greens and that's one
place where I do put I need to start putting
more content. Feel free to call, text or email me.
I'm on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, uh. And then I have
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a key for site to that I need to put
more content into and some YouTube channels that I put
content on.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
But those, yeah, we'll have those right here at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
But see your yeah as your resource and we are
here to serve you.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
So thank you very much for joining us today. It's
been a tree of real delight and I know we're
going to work together in a lot of different ways.
I'm Valerie van Is over reminding you that age is
just a number, but living fully is forever. So we'll
see you next week on Always Hless
Welcome back to Always Ageless, where we celebrate vibrant living
at every age. I'm your host, Valerie Van is over
and today's conversation is one that might hit close to
home for many of us. Were joined by Tyler Price
from Idaho, and he is a realtor there. But it's
much more than that. Tyler is someone whose life took
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a powerful turn when he became a caregiver for his family.
He walked away from his career of several years to
provide care for his loved ones, and through that experience,
he found a new purpose helping older adults in their
families transition through life situations with compassion and clarity. Today,
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Tyler is not only guiding seniors through real estate decisions. Actually,
that's just not even a huge part of his business.
His life is also involved with developing wellness product that
he believes could support brain health and keep us all healthier.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
He's going to tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
He's here to share his journey, the lessons he's learned
from caregiving, his work with seniors, and his passion mostly
just for making a difference both in housing and health
and family. So, whether you're planning your next chapter or
whether you're helping a loved one in theirs or you're
just curious about the heart behind the work, stay with us.
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You're going to love this conversation. Welcome Tyler Price to
Always Ageless.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Thank you, Valerie. So I'm very blessed to have met you,
and you took an hour out of your time to
help me and answer questions, and then you invited me
on and I'm very grateful for that.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh, You're so welcome. We're glad to have you.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And you know, Tyler, when I started this program, my
goal was to have people like you to share their
journeys of how they're either helping their family or either
you are the senior, or you are the adult child
of aging parents, or you're helping other people and their families.
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Are you're helping other kids that are your age who
are dealing with their families and they don't know what
to do. So you are exactly the person that I
wanted on my Always Age's program.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So I'm really glad that you're here today.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, thank you. I'm grateful to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You have quite a story and again you're you know,
you're kind of my ideal person because You've got so
many elements of your life to talk about. You have
your family, and your family is not only your parents,
but your own children and your wife life and all
the things you're involved with that, but also your business
and how that's evolved, and your personal journey.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So let's just get started. Let's talk about who are you?
How did you get started? You had a couple of businesses.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, No, The starting part of it really happened
back when my dad was sick with diabetes and he
had kidney failure, and my wife and I had three
kids at the time, and we actually moved in with
my parents and helped them or helped him deal with
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parent needal dialysis, so that's what they do with one
way in which you can clean your blood at home
and your body, and just kind of helped him until
he was ultimately able to get a kidney transplant. But
so that happened, my wife had to go actually back
to work, and she's a cosmetologist by trade, and I
was staying home with three kids, and then we had
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a fourth while we were there because life wasn't stressful enough, right, so,
and you know, so it was doing homework with kids,
it was getting kids to school. It was watching little babies,
it was doing parent needle dialysis was where you hook
your your patient, who happened to be my dad, up
to fluid three times a day, so you drain fluid
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and insert fluid into this bag that's in their cavity.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
And anyway, it was hard.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And I remember my older brother calling me one time
and just seeing how I was doing, and I couldn't
even talk to him because he's like, well, what's going on?
And I just started to cry and I didn't want
to cry in front of my brother, so I couldn't talk.
And he's like, well, what is wrong? And I was like,
it's never going to get better, was all I could
say at that at that moment.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
But it did.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
My dad did get a kidney, and you know, we
were able to move out of their home. He was
able to kind of start the journey of being able
to take care of himself. In twenty twenty, he did
ultimately pass, but you know, he fought a long journey
with diabetes and really poor health, which then kind of
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started me on a path of not wanting to get
diabetes myself, because that's a disease that just takes your
life away slowly as it did for him. So but anyway,
that while I was home and my wife was working,
she was working in a hair school. She's a cosmetologist
by trade, and then we ultimately started our own hair
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school in Idaho and ran that for fifteen years and
then sold it. Wow, And that's how I am where
I am now. But coming back to watching my dad,
you know, not wanting to be to end up with
diabetes and poor health. You know, I was pushing three
hundred pounds and could barely walk up our stairs. And
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so I got into microgreens and that really helped me
and just exercise and I dropped eighty pounds and I
was doing well. And just along the journey, I just
keep looking for more and more things that helped me,
and then I try to get other people to do it,
because I know, if you're slightly overweight, if you have diabetes,
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if you have even cancer, some of these things can
really aid and assist and even cure on top of
what doctors can do for people. And so that's what's
kind of got me into where I am today. With
just a side project of dealing with Kiefer, which is
a fermented milk that helps with gut biome, our probiotics
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and sprouts and microgreens and just all that in addition
to being in real estate as well. But anyway, so's
I just threw up really quick. But yeah, but you
might have a comment or point, So.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, we're going to talk about the greens in a
little while because I'm going to talk about that separately.
Certainly that's fascinating them, and everybody on this caller is
watching or listening wants to know how to be healthier
and certainly how to lose weight.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't know anybody that doesn't want to lose weight.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
We included so so tell us, So you left your
you left your work, stayed home with your dad for
three years for you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yep, well a little better in three years. Yeah, and
it was you know, you look back on it now
with fondness because I did get to spend a lot
of time with my dad before his passing, but it
was it really was difficult at the same time. So
but I think that's life. I don't think that's unique
to me. I think that's everybody has some struggle that
they're going to go through at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So what we do and being caregivers, you know, as
you've discovered caregivers at all different levels. You know, some
of your family members were not here with you in
Idaho with you, so they wanted to be helpful maybe
or maybe they didn't right, And you were the one
that was the closest, so you were the one that
took on those responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I know I can relate with my dad.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We had there were four of us children, but I
was the one that was the closest to him at
the end of his life. And I'm still so grateful
that I had that opportunity to be with my dad.
And there were situations that my sister was a favorite daughter,
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and I certainly never was. But you're a beautiful pianist.
And my dad used to say, oh, why don't just
let your sister play the piano. He never wanted to
listen to me, But she was sick as he was
getting old, and and because she was, that gave me
an opportunity to be closer to him, and I was.
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You know, I'm so glad I had those times with him,
just like you with your dad.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, I had a lot of plus to it, and
my siblings were all great.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I have four them.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I'm smack dab in the middle because I have seen
families that it is a power struggle or whatever issues
they have going on. But my siblings were very great
and supportive and helpful in all aspects.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So I guess my question to you would be, and
this is a big question, is what things have did
you learn from that that then now you pass on
or you wish all of your everybody else knew?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
What do you wish you could share with everybody?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, don't take your family for granted because they will
be gone at some point. Get over any sort of
issues you have, sit down and hash them out with
family members. Luckily, I can't say that's really been a
big thing in our family, but you know, family, family matters,
and we drive each other nuts, but we really are
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there for each other when times are tough. I believe,
I hope. But then, really, the biggest thing I think
I took out of it too is you know, we
can do hard things. Everyone is designed our bodies and
minds are designed to do hard things. And it's no
fun to do hard things. I'd rather just sit on
a beach and leisurely live my life, but that's not
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you know, Idaho has no beaches, but we do have
great lakes and rivers.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
But but that's just not what life is.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Designed to be. And it's a struggle, and it's a
roller coaster. So you know, when you're at the top,
learn to put your hands up in the air as
you come plummeting to the bottom and then just know
it's going to go back up to the top again.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So and so many times we deal with and in fact,
one of the issues really involved with aging is the
family dynamics. Yes, right, is that we know so many
of us know that my mom isn't but my mom
could be in you know, in Wisconsin, and I'm here
and I know I need to do something for her
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and I'm not able to. And so my question would
be to you when you must have people the same
thing when they're when they're I think we only have
police cars drive by here when I'm on a radio show,
not me. It happened all day yesterday. So when you're
talking with family members, what advice do you give to them,
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whether either the children live close to you or the
parents live close to you and they're separated.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, so that's a big issue, and I think there's
something that I'll say to people when either I can
do it or you can do it, but we both
can't do it, and we both wouldn't do it the
same way. So as people take roles, and typically so
whatever those roles may be, it might be that someone
has power of attorney for the financial aspect of the parent,
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or someone then another one might have the physical power
of attorney for the parent. But whatever your role is,
and then you know, a couple others don't really have anything,
but we're all chiming in. But you know, for me,
it is, hey, you do need to get together and
you need to have zoom calls, and then you need
to start talking to professionals because this is recently what
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we've gone through with our mother. Our dad had, you know, physically,
some very poor health, and our mom has always been
super healthy.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Her mom lived one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Three and and she's you know, always been you know,
thin and has been very active. But now cognitively she's
sliding a little bit. She still recognizes everybody, but there's
times where grandchildren she maybe doesn't remember her name, or
you know, she kind of knows what family they go to,
and and it's sad to see. But we started to
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help our mom too late, and it went from her
being in her home and us trying to get her
into a program called Mind for All Seasons. Not to
plug somebody else's business, but they've seen some really great
things with reversing dementia and Alzheimer's. But we were about
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I think about six months too late. So our mom
ended up falling, breaking a hip, not being able to
keep herself. We had to ask her not to drive
anymore because she brushed up against a pedestrian as she
was driving on her in her neighborhood. And then anyway,
so it is as a family you need to In
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our case, I think no one wanted to take complete
charge or we just didn't take the action that needed
to be taken. And it's not even to say that
it would have worked, but we kind of have a
feeling of wow, we started a little late. So then
we had to put her into an assisted living center
and the one that is near her house is fantastic,
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but she wants to know when she's going home, and
you know, she's eighty three and she should be able
to be in her home, but she can't. She cannot
remember to feed herself. She can't get her medications right,
she can't, you know, she definitely can't drive anymore. And
so as a family you need to realize that roles
are reversing and if you don't take action, then there's
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going to be a fall.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Again, she felt she's broken both hips at this point,
but she's rebounded nicely from it. However, you know, it's
just it's not what you want, because once a hip
gets broken, there's statistically a higher probability that they pass
within a short period of time.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But as a family, you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Need to get united and realize that that not everyone's
going to agree and whoever is put in charge, you know,
the peanut Galleries just need to keep their mouths shut
and let them run with it because they're doing their
best too. And assisted living centers are great. Obviously, I
think most people would prefer to age at home, but
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that's not it's just isn't possible, and there tends to
be in this scenario, usually one child who's still nearby,
and that's a big undertaking for that child to have
to do all the help. And honestly, it's not an
ass that I think. I mean, it's hard to say,
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you know, hey, I need to support and love my parent,
but they also have to live their life and deal
with their own family and things like that. Right, So
it is as a family is get united quick and
take action quick, because ignoring it and saying, oh, mom's
in good health was our case. But her cognitive decline
has been so detrimental to her that she lost a
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lot of weight, she fell, broke a hip, she wasn't
probably taking her medicine right, she definitely wasn't eating right,
and she suffered because of that. And then we were
able to finally take action. And now she's in a
much better place. So I just rambled on and I
know you have great That's perfect.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Don't you think that that we all we have a
viewpoint of what we think a caregiver is. We think
a caregiver is a person that you pay to come
into the home, or is at the place where your
parents live, the assisted living community or wherever, and a
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long for a long time, I don't think we accepted
the fact that we are caregivers. Yes, and now I
say so often to my husband it is official.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We are caregivers.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm blessed that my husband is so good with my mom.
My mom's the last of the four parents. She's one
hundred and five and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But yet we go there every day. My husband goes
there every day. We don't get paid for being a caregiver.
You don't get paid for being a caregiver. And you
want to include everybody, you know, you want everyone to
feel like you're doing a good job. But like you said,
you can only do what you think is the best
thing to do. You're the person on the spot, and
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you get you know, it's your decision to make yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, and it's again it's one that you definitely don't
want to even admit to. I think we kind of
wanted to say no, she's healthy, so everything will be fine,
but then you know, it's just it wasn't. And we
then talked about it for probably six months before we
finally started to take action. And then by the time
we took action, then again she fell and broke a hip,
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and then it was like, wow, she here we are.
And anyway, it was you know that when you move
a parent into assisted living, they want people to stay
with them for the first few nights. And so she's
in Salt Lake City and so I went down from
Idaho and stayed with her the first night, and she
doesn't remember that and that was only like maybe two
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months ago. But I so we slept on the same bed,
and I remember, as a little kid, like really small,
my parents, you know, sleeping in their bed was way
better and less scary than sleeping in my bed. But
they hated it. They wouldn't let it happen. And my
mom would say, no, you toss and turn too much.
And anyway, that night, I don't think I slept at
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all because she was shaking, she was rolling around, she
was talking all night long.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
It was the worst night.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So it just comes full circle, right, So parents don't
want to let their little kids sleep in their bed.
And I can guarantee you don't want to sleep in
the same bed as your mom or aging parent because
you're not getting any sleep that night.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And the other thing we have to deal with, Tyler
is our spouses. Yeah, right, our spouses. You can say
they didn't buy into this, but they did. You know,
when you get married and you take on a partner
and a family, it's the whole family. Yes, it's not
just half of a family, but it's challenging, and sometimes
I find myself wondering would I be as gracious as
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my husband is. And we haven't tested it because his
parents died when they were in their late nineties.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, my mom's.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Seven years later is still alive, right, so I didn't
have to.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Make those choices.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And it's not an easy thing to have to be
able to deal with the other spouses.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, no, and there's a lot of support and that's
kind of where on the real estate state side. That's
why I want to support seniors, but it's more supporting
their children because so I do have a network of
people that are going to do the things that I'm
not really qualified to do. So if the parent can
age in place, well, then we need to make the
house safe for them. We need to put handrails in,
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we need to make toilets easier to get on and off.
We need to have furniture that allows them to stand up,
we need to have ramps, and you know, some level
of care probably and if it's assisted living, then we
need to have that discussion and look at selling the
home so that mom or dad can go into assisted
living and get the help that they need. And so
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there's just a lot of that having gone through it
and not knowing what to do and and really learning,
trying to learn quickly, but still trying to live your
life right. And and then when you finally say no,
we got to figure this out, it can be too late.
So so anyway, I'm put together a whole group of
people in my area here in Idohoa Falls, Idaho that
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work with seniors all the time and are here to
support them in whichever direction they're going to go.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And then I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Help people deal with with aging parents because it's it's
a whole aspect of life that you that you weren't
aware of when you when.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
You got married right right.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And I have to say last summer, my older brother
and I we were up at a wedding of a
nephew in Oregon, and we drove up. We have an
aunt that lives in Longview, Washington, which is near the
Oregon Washington border.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
So we drove up.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
We went to our grandparents' gravesite, and then we went
over to her house and I hadn't seen her for
probably five years maybe, but she opened the door and
I swear I thought it was my grandmother when she
was standing there and she had us in and we
were talking. The one thing that she said that really
stuck out to me, and she passed away this summer
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or in the spring, but anyway, she said, you know,
from the time that grandma died to today, that time
went really fast. So we're going to be learning how
to take care of our parents, but we better be
building the relationships with our children and have a plan
because the time from now me being fifty six to
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when I'm going to be in the same position as
my mom, that time's going to go very quickly. And
that was coming from someone that had lived it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So and what.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Happens is that we put our law as the adult
children of aging parents, which we didn't know that's what
we were going to become, right, I mean, I thought
by now my parents would be gone. And I actually
when I was their age, I was, you know, your age.
I thought I was old. Right now, I don't think
I'm old at any rate, you know, So we have
so we do put our lives on hold. And I
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hear this all the time from people saying, what happened
to my retirement?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Right, we haven't been.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We used to travel all the time, We haven't traveled,
we haven't been on a major vacation since my dad
died seven years ago, because who will stay with my mom?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Right, and so what happens to us?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And again, you know, but in our case, we keep thinking, well,
my mom is one hundred okay, well then just under
one hundred and two hundred three, how much longer can
she live?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well, is wait till next year to take that vacation.
She's still alive.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But even in your case, so you put your lives
on hold a little bit. So this is really an
issue because I'm watching a movie which will be sponsoring here,
actually Wine Women in Dementia, where a lady made connections
of people around the country who were, like you, caregivers
of their aging parents who had dementia, and their experiences
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and their questions were, I don't know how much money
I need because I don't know how long she's going
to be an assistant living. I don't know how long
they're going to live. I don't know what kind of
decisions to make, right And you must face that also.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, no, And I think that the kids, that's going
to be one of their biggest questions is how do
we have paid, how do we pay for assisted living?
Which when you if you were to pencil it, if
they have somebody with mom or dad for you know,
forty hours a week or something, that's going to be
way more money than assisted living. And anyway, but it's
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it is, that's going to be one of their questions.
And if hopefully mom and our dad has a home,
because then there's you know, can they age in home?
And if the answer is no, then okay, how do
we get the most out of this home so that
they can afford to live in assistive living? And that's
that tends to work. I'm going to say, it's still
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kind of a scary place to be. Luckily, our mom,
you know, she's my dad, did well and she's taken
care of. But but yeah, that's not the case for
most right and so now it is man, how do
how do we as a family afford this? And hopefully
they have that asset that they then can fall back
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on if assisted living is where they need to go.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So well, and the.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
One thing I think that is the most underused program
is reverse mortgages. Yes, yeah, that people don't understand it.
It used to be a really bad program. Now it's not.
But actually people can stay in their home for less
than they would be paying in rent somewhere else. You
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might need a caregiver, you know, and the problem with
an an in home caregiver is, okay, so I have
somebody come three or four hours in the morning, But
what happens if mom falls a non.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, yeah, no, and that's and it's just the easiest
thing that they being a fall risk is just going
to happen, right, and and so yeah, that that is
definitely you know, reverse mortgages and things like that can
definitely keep people there. I mean, that's definitely something that
has to be explored. But we just have to look
at the health of the parent and say, to your point, Okay,
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so when someone's with them, they're fine, but if they're alone,
are they fine? And if the answer is yes, then
age in place. If the answer is no, then then
we have to really start looking into what is best
for them. And they don't always like the idea of
going into assisted living, but it's what's best for them.
And there's actually a very social aspect to it and
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a very structured aspect that again helps with the dementia
and the Alzheimer's is putting someone on a really good
routine schedule is one of the things that helps with that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So anyway, and the guilt that we go through, and
you must have experienced this where you drop off your mom,
I don't. I don't know that. I I don't know
that I'll be able to do that. You know, we're
talking having that discussion. We kept being my mom would
live long enough. She is and she just shouldn't be
by herself anymore. Can I drop her off and leave her?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't know. It'd be pretty hard to do, worse
than taking her keys away.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
But the one that my mom's in, the people that
live there, they love it and they're very social and
and then and my mom's not, so that's that's kind
of uh right, yeah, but she's forced to be, and
I think that helps her. So she's she'll she also
is someone that will tell you what you want to hear.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
So it's like, so, how's it.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Going, Oh, I really like it here, and and it's
like okay, but really, so I'll always say quit lying
to me, mom.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You know, But but she says she really likes it.
I hope.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So it's a great facility, and so that those aspects
that they're not getting at home, living on their own
though of so and talking to people and doing things
like that then then become part of it. So it
has to the stigma of assisted living needs to kind
of be go away, because it's really just they're just
moving in and now they're part of a community.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
That's what it needs to be looked at us. Yes, there,
you're in, and you're you're a part of a community.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So they are there.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So let's break down all of the options. I'm going
to call you. I'm going to say, Tyler, my mom
lives in your community. I don't think she's safe. I
don't think she should be by herself anymore. She owns
a house, my dad's gone. What do you think I
should do? So there's lots of options, So let's go
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through those options.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
What what kind of things would you say to someone?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
So then it would be getting everybody, all the decision
makers together, So it's a it's a bit of a process.
So if there's just a couple of siblings, then that's
easier than if there's ten, right, But but we need
to get everybody. No, there's there's five total, but this
area does have the big families at times. Yes, So
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it is then okay, where is mom? And and really
starting to bring professionals that excel in things that I
have an under a slight understanding of because I don't
ever want to come across to let me tell you
how to overcome dementia. Now that's that's somebody else's thing, right,
But it is understanding, Okay, what where is mom? What
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is her current situation? What are concerns? And then getting
professionals to come in and just have a consultation and
let's discuss.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Okay, this if we.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Were to come in and do these things for your mom,
this is what we're looking at, and this is what's
going to happen, and and you know some and so
it's really it's hard to answer just oh, this is
step one through step to the end, because every case
will be a little different.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Right, absolutely, I do one hundred percent agree with that.
Everybody's different.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And so that's the thing that makes what I'm trying
to do a little unique. Because there's a lot of
great real estate agents here in eastern Idaho, but they
go about it as a real estate agent. So real
estate agent's going to walk into a home and say, okay,
I need to get pictures, So how do I make
this home picture worthy? And oh my gosh, look at
all the clutter. So you know, that's that's what there is.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's not even the first thing you should even be
talking about.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's no, we're sitting down to talk and have a
discussion and get to know each other and then okay,
these are the professionals that I'm going to recommend that
we start you talking with, and then I'm following up
to make sure that happens. Because again, in my case,
we waited six months before we took action on something
that we knew that we could do six months prior.
And so so that's really I'm trying to hold people's
(29:49):
feet to the fire because this is a person that
is at risk, and so what is the path? So
if it's the agent place, great, I'm all for that.
As a real estate agent, you know, it's not that
I need to make a sale today, and so it
is okay for' aging in place. Now we need to
make the house safe. Do we need someone to come
(30:09):
in for Yeah, so let's.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Just take a minute.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So let's just break out for and hold that thought
because we're going back to it for our listeners and
our viewers. What aging in Place means is that Tyler's
going to go into a home with a family and
he's okay that they don't want to sell their house
right now. So that's what you need when you are
having these discussions for yourself, or for your family members,
(30:33):
or for anyone you know. You need to work with
someone whose interests is you, you and your family, not
getting a real estate commission YEP, or a commission to
move you or whatever. You need someone who is a
senior home coach who's an advocate for you and whatever
is best for you and your family, and that if
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you go away with nothing else today or from all
of my episodes, you need to work with people who
are concerned about you.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Now, go ahead, Yeah, and then it's putting again, getting
the right people to come in and do consultations and
create a game plan of this is how we're going
to go about it. And let's say that it is
though a situation where mom can't afford to go into
to assisted living yet but could, but we'll sell the
(31:23):
home and and then we'll go well, so my job
is then to help them get some money to then
go ahead and move in. And then my role, because
I already know the stress that the family is under,
is to say, anything in this home that you want,
take anything you don't want, leave it here and then
(31:47):
and I'll take care of the rest. And then depending
on where the house is, if it hasn't been updated,
if it you know, we're we're going to strive to
get the most out of this home as possible. But
any furniture or anything that isn't wanted, just leave it
behind because the family already has way too much stress
that they're dealing with to have to sit there and
(32:08):
get rid of fifty years worth of stuff, right So,
so it is then so that's that's the scenario where
we're moving them into a home, but if we can
have them age in place, we're all about that. And
then it's just making the house safe and getting the
support that they need, that mom needs so that she's
(32:29):
not having falls, and it is getting you know, necklaces
that they're going to have to wear that have buttons
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Right so right, absolutely, so let's talk about aging in place.
So if someone if you if you determine with the
family or with the older person that aging in place
is a good alternative for right now, a good option
for right now. What are some of the things you
would do to make it a good place for them.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
So it is really looking at eliminating falls, because that's
where that's what ultimately killed my my aunt. She she
fell and hit her head and that is how she
passed away. She was doing really well other than that,
I you know, she should still be alive. But so
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it is it's like, just you know, how you child
proof a home, We're going to do the same thing.
We got to child proof this house because because if
there are stairs, man, the basement's probably going to have
to be off limits, and we need to eliminate that
going down and if there's stairs up up you know,
I was just showing a house and a beautiful part
of Idaho right on the Snake River and the and
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the people have.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
That house advertised yeah beautiful.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
And uh and they had a lift. So if they're
if they're wanting to go up and downstairs, if that's
part of it, there are things that we can put
in the homes which you know, they sit in a
chair and it lifts them up and down, and so
we just have to eliminate falls. And then it is okay,
what type of medication and who's going to make sure
that this medication is getting taken care of? And you know,
(34:04):
making sure eating because that was another thing that my
mom kind of just quit eating. And it wasn't that
she didn't want to eat, it's just that she kind
of was forgetting to eat, right, So it's just all
the things. What is then what's the support group? So
in our area, you know, we have a lot of
neighbors that get close, so it's like, can neighbors come over?
So it's not just the child that has to come
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all over all the time, but we need to have
a very routine schedule of what's going to be happening
when and who's going to be doing it and have
people accountable to do those things. And so then it's
and then again it's getting the professionals in place that
really are going to help make sure a lot of
this stuff gets done and that they get the care
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and the dignity that they need to be taken.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Care of it with.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So and I think you're also familiar with some things
that we call on this program aged well age Tech.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, right, So things.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
There's a program called on Screen, and I think you
have a family member maybe who's involved in something where
they kind of do reverse reverse technology where if someone
takes their dog out every morning before eight o'clock, that's great.
But one morning the dog they don't go to let
their dog out, then they call or check in, maybe
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something's wrong with them. Or there's a program called on
screen that has a little camera that sits on the
top of your television and you can go in from
your phone and just dial in and through your mom's
TV right and say, Mom, are you there? Oh, everything's fine,
So you know, you check that. So they have those
opportunities to check in, and that's one way that aging
(35:41):
in place can be a little bit safer.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, And that is the great thing about where we
are in this time with technology and with you know,
the baby boomers is a big part of our population,
and it's like the technology came along just in time
for them to be able to.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Utilize it and be safe.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So that's that is a great point to be able
to have those check ins, you know, whether it's physically
or through the technology, to be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yes, So and then you have someone who comes in
and maybe helps them declutter while they're thinking of downsizing.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, because that's definitely something that that if they don't do,
it's going to rely on the family to do. And
again you're talking, and I've seen that when people pass
where the house is just full of stuff and they're
dealing with a funeral and they're traveling in and they
only have limited time to be there, and you know,
there's just there's just a lot of stress that comes
(36:38):
from that. My wife and I just went through this
exercise of downsizing. I think I definitely got rid of
more stuff than she did, but at least one of
us downsized, right.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But we're going through that right now too, So.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
That's definitely something because we all like things and things remind.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Us of whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
But I am to the point now where I've limited
my clothing. I just you know, if I don't wear it,
it's gone. And whereas before I would say, oh, I've
had this shirt since high school, Well so what.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I don't wear it, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Gone, right, And anything that isn't being used on a
regular basis now for me, I just get rid of
and I'll have to borrow or buy.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
A new one.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
If it's really something I need. So yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
We've been trying to go through. But it's not easy.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
It isn't easy.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And for our mom you know, for our moms, and
they have things that they got from their grandma's and
I think most a family thing. And my husband says, well,
I would want to say this stuff because it's our
family history.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We don't need to save our tax returns for twenty years.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
So someone so let's talk about because before when we
chatted before, you mentioned some other things that you do,
which is really exciting, and I want our people to
note these options are available. So when is agent place, okay?
And if the agent place, you can also to help
them with downsizing, decluttering even while they're staying in that home.
(38:04):
And then you have a team that you can bring
in and help them do whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It is, add lights or you know, aging in place.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
A lot of people think that just means putting grab
bars up, but really it's much.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
More than that.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
More yeah, yeah, so it is.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
And then if they and then there's other things that
you do. So let's say someone wants to stay there
but they really they really need a few improvements to
make it safer. They really don't have the money. What
can you do? You mentioned a lift, that's a great thing,
and a lot of people are doing very easy to
do elevators in home elevators also just for one level,
(38:41):
So how can you help them?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
So there and and again, now we're getting into the
side of as I bring that vendor, we'll call them vendor.
But this is what they do. You know, these these
guys don't have a lot of margin in these things,
and there is a lot of medicaid assistance that can happen.
So they're doing a lot of and I would say
probably even close to ninety percent of the work that
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they do is maybe break even or lose and then
ten percent they're making money on. But they're going to
come in as professionals and say, okay, are ramps needed,
and you know, we're looking. We're always looking for ramps
and other things as people do pass on that now
is still attached to the home that they no longer
(39:26):
need to be able to repurpose ramps and be able
to take idea yeah, because even you know, my dad
had a ramp and then my mom was using it
and now she's you know, we're not going to take
her back to the house very often, and but she
she is going to go back to her house for
a visit. But at some point that ramp isn't needed,
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but it can serve somebody else in the in the
process at a reduced rate. So so we are looking
because for some people the money's not an issue and
for others it's a big issue, but they still need
these things. So this group is looking for ways to
be able to serve and be able to do those things,
to be able to facilitate those you know, the actual
physical things of the bars and the and the ramps
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and the lifts, so.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
That lights, lighting.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Lights, and you know, again just even how you move
and sit down and things like that get into a car.
There's special ways for them to get into a car
that reduce fall rates. So and that's what we're really
one of the main things are one of the big
things that we're looking to do here.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And there's even ramps up to a shower. Yeah, not
just to a front door, yeah, ramps from the floor
to the shower. So if you have a step up
or step over shower, there's now ramps you can buy
even at home depot. Yeah, that serves that purpose. Okay,
so we've got they want an agent place, and what
if they need to sell their home. There's some things
(40:50):
that how do you decide whether And Tyler, I think
this is a really important issue, especially as a realtor,
because we know that we are unique in that we
care about the client more than we care about a sale. Yes,
so how do you decide whether it's better to sell
the house as is, whether it all needs to be
(41:13):
fixed up? Because some agents, just like you said, will
come in and say, all his house needs to be
fixed up.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You need a new kitchen, you need a bathroom.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Well, at the last three I've sold, we haven't done
any of those things, and we still sold them for
top dollar. So how do you make that decision?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
So that I mean, it does depend on the state
of the home, because I do have people that will
buy them as investments cash right there, But we are
going to lose some of the value because of the
work that has to go into getting the house ready
for market. So there, you know, I'm going to pull
on some heartstrings and I'm still going to get them
(41:46):
as much money as I can get them. But for
the family to come in and you know, that would
be an option too for the family to come in
and have these repairs done. But for every dollar that
they spend, they aren't necessarily making a dollar. They're not
going to get two dollars back. They usually get somewhere.
I think the average is sixty seven cents back for
every dollar spent. So it's not always wise for them
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just take the time and energy and investment into the home.
So it is you know, if maybe the home could
be rented as an income for mom or you know
where These are all the things we definitely are going
to look at from the The one spectrum would be
cash investors that are just going to come and buy
(42:30):
the house on a wholesale value, but they're getting those
funds early and quick, or we are going to put
it to market and you know, looking at market right now,
this is where the house should be, and this is
where we're going to start and try and get you
top value.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
But it are some simple things you can do, like
you could maybe just replace the carpet, yes, and maybe
you could with one of ours. Here, we just painted
and carpet it and that's all. We did not fix
the kitchen, were not fixed the bathrooms, but that itself.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, it brings a whole different smell into the home
and a different, whole different look into the home and
probably should have been done years ago. And that's one
that you are going to get a good return on now.
I think paint and carpet are easy ones. But if
you're going out back to fix a deck or if
you know, whatever, windows, even you know, I don't know
that you're getting that money back. So it is just
(43:23):
sitting down with the family, because I think that would
be someone's knee jerk reaction is we'll fix the house
up and we'll sell it, and then they put sixty
thousand dollars into the home and they're not going to
get that sixty thousand dollars back.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Right or better? Right? So, yeah, yes it is, and
yeah you can do that.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
However, let's look at this and if we just paint
it and put carpet down and got a lot of
this stuff out, then I think we'd be in a
much better place than really going in and doing everything
that you're that's on the list.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
So, and certainly I think that that fix and flip
there's value to that, But I just think a lot
of times that the money is lost to the client.
It is because someone comes in. When of my clients
got a postcard, you know, we'll buy your house for
eight hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. We sold it for
nine hundred and twenty three thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, that's when you look at the staying power of
them in a facility. I mean that's over a year
year that more that they're getting way over a year,
probably closer to almost two years worth of value of
them staying in an assisted living center.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
So a lot of these guys will come in and, oh,
we'll buy your house, and you know, no real estate commissions,
you don't have to fix anything, but you're leaving so
much on the table let someone like you come in
and make a decision of how's the best way to
market it. And even if it's something as simple as
carpet and paint, didn't you mention that you have a
(44:48):
way that you can maybe finance that for people or
help them with that.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yes, So that's where and it's another vendor they're willing
to do. And it's not so much even alone with
interest as a is there's a fee that they're going
to charge on the money that they give them, and
it's but it's very fair. And so then we could
come in, we could buy furniture for them for their
new place. They could take furniture from their home and
put it into the into the where they're going to
(45:12):
be living. We can paint it, and I got a
crew that I keep busy on paint and you know,
carpet and do all that real easily. So it's not hey,
how do I make a buck here? It's hey, how
do I serve this person? Just having gone through it
and getting kicked in the stomach, I just want to
because because a lot of the people I'm going to
be serving are my friends, and it's their parents that
we're looking to serve, right.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
So absolutely, yeah, absolutely any other thoughts about aging in
place or advice that you would give to people, then
I'm want to go to your other business, your health
and wellness business.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
And I think there's also the version that we haven't discussed,
and it would it's it's a version, right, it's an option,
but that's having mom move in with one of the
children and their family, and I think that has a
lot of blessings to it, but it is uh, I
mean it's it's they're not visiting, they're living there. This
is their space too, right, So anyway, that's that's also
(46:11):
one to be considered and and it's going to be
a lot of work and there's going to be frustrations,
but there's also going to be a lot of blessings
by doing that one as well.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
But are you doing much in your area? And we
look at where you live compared to where we are,
you have so much space around you.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Do you do much with a dus?
Speaker 3 (46:30):
That is just coming into play and so it is
starting like the city that I live in just past
that maybe three years ago. Uh, And so adu's is
definitely something now that that could well serve that, right
and uh they could the family could sell mom's home
building a ADU for very in up here for for
(46:55):
less than one hundred thousand dollars that we could we
could do a small ADU or you know, a good
ADU with a bathroom and and living space and in bedroom.
And so that definitely and that's an auxiliary dwelling unit
is what an ADU is, or just a little house
back on your property. I know California they had to
really push that because of housing issues, but.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Anyway, they aren't.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
And honestly, I think that ADUs are so misunderstood and
underused because it used to be that it was called
the granny flat, right, and you had to have ten
thousand square foot lot and you had to have so
many feet from the side and the back. But now
(47:39):
you can put almost anything in a backyard, or you
can add it on the second story, or you can
turn a garage into an adu. Because they were looking
for opportunities for housing so bad here in California, and
why not do that. I just sold the house. They're
going to put two ADUs on it.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Right, Yeah, yeah, no, And it's and again I think
it's a blessing to have your parent that close, but
they'll be challenges at the same time. But that if
that's an option, I think that's a great option.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
And we call that is a gentleman. Daniel Fuchs has
been on our show and he has a company called
Multi Gen Holmes that he talks about this in does
seminars and kind of like you where he meets with
families and offers them these opportunities and then he brings
in a team that does it for you.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Or you can help you do it.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yeah, No, I think that's fantastic too, So.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
You could do that as well, And that is an opportunity.
A lot of people don't think about that, right because
they think that their mom then has to take one
of the bedrooms right of their dad. But actually now
there's so many opportunities to add an ADU. Yeah, that
would be pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
So I mean, these are all the things I'm going
to go in and discuss with somebody. So let's find
the best one, because I still think people have such
a stigma about assisted living that that's not always their
first choice. But I don't think it's one that you
that you can't look at, because really there's a lot
of great assisted living centers out there that are going
to give more social activity than what mom or dad
(49:08):
are getting currently. But we're gonna find what's best for them.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So let's talk about your health journey. Yeah, and what
brought you into what you're doing now? You actually have
a product that you sell, and so what got you
started with that?
Speaker 2 (49:24):
We have about five minutes, okay.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, and it was just me making a decision that
my dad was just one of my heroes and I
love him still to this day and I and he
used to just tell me, you need to take care
of yourself so you don't end up like me. And
and so that's the again, the first time that I
really because I was always athletic growing up. And then
(49:49):
you kind of slow down and you gain weight and
then you just you still move around okay, but that
extra weight is killing you slowly. And for me, it
was walking up my stairs at my home and getting winded.
And then I just went on this journey of walking
and microgreens at first, and that's all it was. So
(50:10):
microgreens are just taking sprout or taking seed and putting
it on in trays and growing the seed up about
six to eight inches and then you harvest them and
they make really good smoothies or really healthy smoothies. And
I was using a lot of brought broccoli, radish, alfalfa,
(50:32):
and they all had do different things. And then so
then I lost the weight and I've been able to
keep most of it off. I did go through after
we sold our businesses. I kind of went through some
depression of not knowing what I was doing. And I've
gained some weight back and now I'm back at it again.
But now it's sprouts, micro greens and keifer. So along
the way, I found keifer, and that's Keefer has quite
(50:54):
the story which it originated in the Coxas Mountains in
the Russia, where Russia, Middle East and Asia all blended
together in that area, and they just notice that the
people were living longer in those areas, and they started
studying why and it came out that it was the
keifer that they were drinking and making, and so ultimately
(51:18):
Russia was able to get key for grains and then
the rest of the world. So all keifer grains originated
from the Coxas Mountains. That you cannot make keifer grains.
So the key for companies that are selling keifer, their
Keefer's really good. But those strains are bacteria and yeast
made in labs and then they introduce it to the
milk and put whatever other ingredients they're going to put
(51:40):
in the keeper grains that are the keeper that I
make is made from grains, so my my bacteria and
yeast counts are higher, my strains are more, and I
just have a pure product that unless I put sugar
in it, it doesn't have sugar in it. And so
and then it's just helping with gut health. And it
doesn't take much. A little goes along ways and then
(52:01):
these keifer grains just live.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
I've had mine.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
I got mine from a friend just over two years ago,
and I've given out key for grains and mailed keyf
for grains all over the country now and uh and anyway,
I find that when I was trying to give them away,
I couldn't do it. And then when I start charging
people for it, they wanted it. So so I don't
charge a ton of money.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
But we'll buy someone put them on our show here,
so tell us So you sell them?
Speaker 2 (52:25):
They're they're like a powder out do you sell them?
Speaker 3 (52:28):
It actually looks like cauliflour uh, And it's just and
and so I put it in milk and so it's
it's a symbiotic community of bacteria and yeese. So that
that's a that's the acronym for scobie, which is what
people would use to make kombucha, and so it's a
similar thing, but they call it grains. So it's this
(52:48):
community that's living, growing, consuming the lactose and sugars out
of the milk, and then making like a yogurt type drink.
And then you consume it. I put it in smoothies,
I drink it. I do put it over ice cream,
and it makes the ice cream taste like cheesecake, so
whatever flavor. So if it's cookies and cream, it's like
cookies and cream with cheese cake flavor.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
So I need some of that.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, So I am a proponent of having ice cream
and treats occasionally, but it can't.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Be around I am too, I am too. We have
enjoyed having you so much. Thank you for being You're
ensuring your story. I want you to tell people where
they can find you, and I know that even though
you're in Idaho, I'm in California, and we all have
a network of people all over the country that will
help them with wherever your needs are. So reach out
(53:43):
to us, to Tyler if you'd like to talk to him.
He has colleagues and network all over the country as
we do, and we're here to be your resource. Here,
I'm always ageless. We want to help you and your
families and your parents live the best life. Ever, how
can people find you?
Speaker 3 (53:59):
So, I'm I haven't built websites yet. That's always one
of those things that I'm going to do. But my Facebook,
Grow your Greens is gro your Greens and that's one
place where I do put I need to start putting
more content. Feel free to call, text or email me.
I'm on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, uh. And then I have
(54:22):
a key for site to that I need to put
more content into and some YouTube channels that I put
content on.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
But those, yeah, we'll have those right here at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
But see your yeah as your resource and we are
here to serve you.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
So thank you very much for joining us today. It's
been a tree of real delight and I know we're
going to work together in a lot of different ways.
I'm Valerie van Is over reminding you that age is
just a number, but living fully is forever. So we'll
see you next week on Always Hless
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