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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Imagine being asked three questions all at once, would you
be my housekeeper, would you be my companion?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Or would you marry me?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's exactly what happened to today's guest, and her answer
changed her life in so many ways and brought her
into one of the most extraordinary families actually in history.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But here's the twist.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
While the world knows her as all McCartney's stepmom, we
know her as so much more. She's a wartime Liverpool survivor,
a young widow who started all over, a mother and
a stepmother who blended families with grace and so much bravery,
and a woman who went on to become an author,
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an entrepreneur, a te connoisseur, and even earned her doctorate
degree in her eighties. Joining doctor Angie McCartney today is
her amazing daughter, Ruth, Because this is also a story
about the beautiful bond between a mother and a daughter
who've become business partners, best friends, and proof that the
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powerful legacy we can leave is showing others how to
fearlessly live and with kindness. These two exemplify terminal optimism.
Angie and Ruth run an organic tea company. They have
co authored multiple books, amazing books, and they have more
energy than people have their age. But more than that,
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they both have story. Oh the stories they have about resilience,
reinvention over and over again, and the magic that happens
when you refuse to let your dreams have an expiration date.
So pour yourself a cup of something warm, preferably a
cup of Missus McCartney's team, Get comfortable and be prepared
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to be inspired by two women who embody everything. We
believe here that life isn't about the number of years
you've lived, but about the life you've packed into the
years that you are on this earth. Ladies and gentlemen,
let me introduce to you the unstoppable, the unforgettable, the
absolutely ageless, Doctor Angie McCartney and our wonderful daughter Ruth.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They are witty, they are wise. They both have.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Stories to tell that will make you laugh, make you cry,
bring a tear to your eye, and death only surprise
you dayan always ageless.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We're not just here to talk about Beatles' history.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We're talking about their story, the remarkable journey of doctor
Angie McCartney and her daughter Ruth.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Stay with us.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
This is a conversation you will remember doctor Angie McCartney
and Ruth McCartney.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Welcome to Always Ageless.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Thank you, thanks so much for having us, pleasure to be.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Here, delighted.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
We are so glad to have you, and just want
to ask you briefly, Angie, about your life before you
met Jim McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
McCartney. Excuse me, and you were a child during the war.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Do you remember being in actually where your homes bombed
in Liverpool?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
What was that experience like?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, I was born in nineteen twenty nine, so I
was nine or ten nine, Yeah, when the war started,
and I don't really remember it being troublesome. We just
got home with it, was, I guess is the Liverpool
way of doing things. You just take life by the
throat every day and get on with it. And the
sense of humor is a great help.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That their neighbor's house, doctor McAlpine, five houses down that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, every morning, when we'd get out of the area shelter,
my sister Joan and I would go for a walk
around the district to see which houses have been bombed
and what was left. And doctor McAlpine about a mile
away that my father had worked for as a pharmacist.
His house was no more, it was just a big
crater smoking. Still, those kind of memories I still have.
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I occasionally have a nightmare and think about them, So
it's buried somewhere in the back of my brain what's left. Bit.
But we go along with it, you know. And we
used to have sing songs and spelling bees and crossword
puzzles and all kinds of things in the area shelter
to keep us occupied. And we didn't really worry about
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the bombs too much.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
But except that you had to be except that they
brought you, took you out of school because the school had.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
To be used for the school had to be used
for people whose homes have been bombed. So we used
to just meet once a week for half a day
in a neighbor's house with the teacher and just do
roll calls, say a prayer, just exchange stories about what
was happening, and that was it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
See whose dad was growing tomatoes and see whose mom
was growing cabbage.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yes, you just you know, took it in our stride.
And we didn't think we were having a bad time
because we always had a sing song every night and
laughed a lot and still doing it, same, same, same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And grateful for the moments that you had your family together.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Oh absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
How did your relationship with Jim begin?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
He said, I want to ask you something, and I
looked up and I said, the answer is yes. He said,
I have dusk to the bloody question yet. So we
sat down again and he said, well, you know, Paul
has bought this lovely house for me, but I live
here all alone. I've got arthriters starting, so I can't
really get a car and learn to drive. I need
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somebody to take care of me. Would you be interested
either in being my housekeeper or living with me, or
getting married even? And I thought for all of one
split second and said getting married, because in those days,
with a four year old daughter, you didn't want to
be living in sin as it were with an elderly
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man with all the good fortune that had just surrounded Jim.
So that was it. We decided we'd work on it
and get married. Shortly after, the phone rang and Jim
answered that phone was in the hall. We only had
one phone in the house in those days, can you imagine.
And I heard him say, hello, son, yes she is,
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yes I have yes we are, And she come and
speak to Paul. Oh boy. So I came across and
spoke to Paul and he said, hello, you sound nice.
I mean, what's a stupid thing to say. You've just
found out it's going to be your stepmother and she's
got a four year old in tow. So he said,
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so you're staying tonight. I said yes. He said, well,
I'll jump in the car. I'm in London now. I said,
probably take about three hours, which he did in those
days when the motor ways were more so it was
after midnight before he actually arrived. And when he came in,
I was in the kitchen washing up some cups and
saucers from the many pots of tea we've had. And
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he came in through the garage and he was all
dressed formally in a beige suit and a striped tie
and brown lace up shoes, not looking anything like a beetle,
but more like a businessman. And he said hello, I'm Paul,
and I said, yeah, I think I know that. So
we sat in the lounge and had another pot of
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tea and he said, so where's the baby? Get the
baby baby? So I brought her downstairs, plumped her on
Paul's lap, and you take over from here.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So I was obviously fast asleep in the dark and
in what was to become my room eventually, and and
comes and scoops me up in my little pink and
white polka up pajamas and brings me down and you know, daylight,
electric light, and I'm like, where am I? I'm all confused.
I'm four and a half years old at this point,
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and I've just had my kidney out in what May
of that year, made the seventeen sixty and this is
sort of around November. So I've got a huge scar
of like two hundred and ten stitches running from you know,
all the way around my right hand side. And they
had been talking about it downstairs, and I was sat
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on Paul's lap and I looked up and I clucked
his face, and I thought, I know this bloke from somewhere.
I've seen him somewhere. It was driving me mad. And
of course newspapers, television, the Beatles, you know, it's the
middle of sixty four in Liverpool. And he said, oh,
but I said, you want to see my scar? Do
you want to see my stitches? And so I pull
up my pajamas and he said Oh boy, that's a
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big scar for a little girl. Ringo's got a scar
on his tummy. He's had his appendix out and da
da da. And as soon as he said Ringo, I went, oh,
wait a second, I know who you are. You're on
my cousin's wallpaper. My cousin Geraldine had been wallpaper. She
was mortified.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It was sure an icebreaker, that's for sure. We all
roared laughing.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And everybody laughed, and I was like, I knew, I
knew you from somewhere. You're on my cousin's wallpaper.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
She's been breaking eye ever since.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Oh yeah, by then, you would have had the right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They would have been putting stuff on their wallpaper right
by that time.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Oh yes, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
In England absolutely. I mean they had done Ed Sullivan
in the first week of February of that year and
everything had just gone mad. So they'd done merchandise deals,
they'd formed cell Tabe Limited. There were lunch boxes, there
were beatle boots, there were beetlewigs, there were a year
no you name it. And so my cousin, Geraldine, who's
two or three years older than me, had a little
They called him a wendy house, a playhouse at the
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bottom of the garden that uncle Peter built for her
out of you know, scrap wood and left over window
frames and stuff, and she got her hands on a
roll of So I'm four, she's seven, and she persuaded
her older brother, my cousin Peter, to wallpaper the Wendy
House with the Beatles, and of course I recognized his
face and she was mortified. She's like, oh, God, don't
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come off like a fan.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, yeah, yeah, So tell me did you then?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Did you fall in love with Jim McCartney. Did you
have a wonderful relationship?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No, we just had a sort of kinship and both
had a need for a better life.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I did as a child. I just loved him.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah. Well we just grew, you know, closer and closer,
and we really loved one another after a while, and
realized how much we had in common and how much
each of us had sort of gone through in different ways,
and we were really thankful to be together and you know,
cared for and financially sound andapionship.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Same sense of humor, same background, both piano players, both
great musicians.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Was that he had he was a pianist?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Answer Jim had a band in his younger days. It
was called Jim Max Jazz Band, and I'll send you
some information about it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
A huge band. He used to play all the big
ballrooms in Liverpool. And there's a film, a graphic novel
by a very famous English author whose name escapes me now,
Raymond Jones, I think, and it's called Ethel and Ernest.
And they made it into a film and it's about
a wartime couple. It's a sort of you know, a
cartoon film, and they go out, they save save up
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and they go on a date to the Grafton Ballroom.
And there's a little easter egg in the movie, a
nod to my dad because they used his music, his
one and only song in the film. And as they're
walking in there playing this song walking in the park
with Elouise, and there's a poster that the artists drew
tonight one night only Jim Max Band and it's like, ah,
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he made it, he made it too. He made it
to Hollywood after all these years.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You know. Yeah, I'll send you some information week and
look at it. All of it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That would that would be wonderful, We would we would
like that and Ruth. Then he became your dad.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yes, yeah, he became my dad. He adopted me. We
were flying somewhere. I think it was the South and
the Bahamas, that's right. It was Angine Jim's sort of
official honeymoon in the end of January nineteen sixty five. Yeah,
was it February? Yeah, And I was going to celebrate
my fifth birthday and George Harrison was having a birthday
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ten days Help and the Beatles were filming Help, and
so the office in London arranged for us to go out.
I think they probably got free rooms at the ball
Moral Club, so, you know, all we had to spring
Ford was the tickets, and we were flying out and
they used to call passengers by name in those days,
and so it was mister James and missus Angela McCartney,
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and they called them forward to get their boarding passes,
and of course I was still Ruth Williams way down
the alphabet. So I'm standing there crying, and Andre's like,
I'm not getting on the plane and Leaven, you know,
and so a light bulb went off in Dad's head
and He's like, now she has to have the same
last name. As soon as we get home, I'm doing
adoption papers. I'm going to illegally adopt her. And so
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that's how I became from Ruth Williams to Ruth McCartney
at the tender age of five. Because and you know,
if that had never happened, like well, may never have
gone on. But he was so patient with me. I
was a little pain in the neck. I was, you know,
four or five years, hopping up and down on one leg,
Kurt saying, I bet you can't do this, and you're right,
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I've got riders in every bone in the body, and yeah,
I can't do that.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Now. I think she introduced a new angle on life
to him, because he's been a wonderful father to his
boys after Mary died, with both father and mother and
housekeeper and friend to the boys. And it was lovely
to have this carefree little thing skipping around the back
garden and he had a swing put in for her
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and the paddling pool and different things, and he reveled
in it. He was really wonderful. He was strict with
her too, table manners and thank you notes, and you know,
so I think it was good to have that grounding
when she was so young.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And how was it how was it being.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Parents co parents, let's say, to the guys, to the Beatles,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You both had completely different perspectives.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Right, absolutely. Yes, Michael was still single at that stage,
but he was in a group called the Scaffold, a
satirical group, and they were touring the country, so he
was away a lot of the time.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He lived at home.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
He lived at home with us.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Don't forget the age difference. So you know, I was
four and Paul was twenty two. Mike would have been
twenty twenty or twenty one, so and wasn't really co
parenting them.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It was only twelve years older than Paul.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, so she's only still still still twelve years older
than Paul. Yeah, so that was it wasn't sort of
a parenting relationship.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
He lived in London by then, because of course they
were always traveling and doing radio shows and television shows
and so on.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So he'd come up to Liverpool every year, every other
weekend or every third weekend when but he could.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, but you talk about icee stories about that. You
would be in the kitchen and yet around the front
gate of the house, you know, everybody was there and
everybody was hanging around. Yes, was Jim more patient with
that or was it? Did it annoy him?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
And he was very, very timid and very self effacing.
He was overwhelmed, that absolutely, but he never wanted to
be unkind, but he certainly didn't want to get surrounded.
And he used to like to go for a walk
down to the lower village and go and have a
scotch in the little pub in the village. And then
he found it was getting to be surrounded and more
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or less mobbed, so he had to give that up.
But once day and I settled in and he got
me driving lessons and bought me a car, I was
able to take him out and we could just whip
through the crowd and go on.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I mean, while I was going to school in Heswell
at the Puddydale, I guess you would call it a.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Case elementary school K through twelve now.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Elementaries older anyway, So I start there on you know,
four years old. You start school in England four or five.
And the head master, God bless mister Kitchen, thought he
was doing a really good thing when he the day
before I started, one day after school went in so
the first day of school he gathered all the students
together and said, now this this little girl coming in
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and she called Ruth, and she's just come into the
McCartney family. And yes she's related to a beadle, but
you're to leave her alone, don't make any special fuss
about her. So when you tell a bunch of seven
eight nine year old kids, especially boys, don't bully this child,
leave her alone, don't don't steal her lunch, don't steal
her Wellington. I mean one guy, one little boy, actually
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went to the bathroom in my Wellington book, did Wellington?
He said, you know what I mean. And because we
all had uniforms, you had to have embroidered labels with
your name in the back of your coat and shirt
and jacketed. You know, every you'd stitch your name in.
And so I mean we went through rolls and rolls
and rolls of these embroidered labels had to stitch to
me because kids and kids would.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Bring because they'd take them on for souvenirs.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It would say McCartney on it. I would have kids
who would come and cut pieces of my hair, Ah,
steal my I mean, it was insane and.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Wasn't very nice.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Still, don't own a pair of wellies to this day.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But that was enough. That was enough.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It does. It never rains in southern California, so.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know you don't need them. Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We got out of that relationship and moved to London.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
That's when Tim Kendall's mother, Barrel Candall.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
That we moved to Sydney. That was yes, that's when
my cousin Tim's mother, Beryl, once we'd visas in Australia,
had run out. She said, well, I'm sort of on
the way home to England. I'm in Lagoon and ne
Gel do you want to come and stay with me
for as long as you can? And you know, see
what you see, what you think about America and try
and get on your feet. So still, so we moved
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in with with cousin Tim, cousin Debbie, and I think
Lynn was still living at home, and the late great
Beryl Candle and h and were I met my first
wonderful husband who are still dear friends to this day.
And so the whirlwind romance a little like Angie Jim
got married, stayed and the rest is history. I'm on
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host number three now, but you know.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And so your current husband is number three.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Number three. I think I think I'll keep him. He's
a good one. Martin another cut.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, it seems that you get along pretty well.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh yeah, we all live together. Angel Lip's downstairs and
we His recording and recording studio is in heretairs, His
video editing suite is upstairs, and we have the master
suite upstairs, and AND's got her office and her you know,
bookshelves and her author stuff down here, and we all
just get up every morning. He drinks coffee, we drink tea,
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and we roll our sleeves up and keep getting it done.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And how fun. So let's go to you.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Let's talk about Now you're in Los Angeles and you've
become entrepreneurs, authors, Let's talk about when did that stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
What was the first thing I got?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Sorry, no, go ahead. I got secretarial work with a
temp agency, and I met a few people from there,
which you know, gradually turned into one job after another.
Worked for Penthouse Magazine, which.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Was a good journey.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, noughty, but noughty. She wasn't.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I wasn't in it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I used to just answer the phones and oh boy,
did we get some phone calls.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
We take turns on reception. Penthouse omni four wheeler magazine,
Can I help you? And of course they were never
calling with questions about omni or four wheeler.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah. I used to get the heavy breathers that did
say what are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh boys, I'd say, well Wellington booths and killed you know. Yeah,
we did, We did our jobs. And then in nineteen
ninety four, the Northrought earthquake took their house we were
renting in Woodland Hills. It split the foundation open and
and at that point was working for USA Today as
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a secretary, and Martin was freelancing. His learned trade, apart
from being an incredible musician and producer, was import export
forwarding agent. So he was working doing that, and we
decided Nashville was hot, Nashville was music city. I'm a lyricist.
He's a songwriter and lyricist and could transfer her job anywhere.
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So she moved from the USA Today to the Tennessee.
And in Nashville, we packed what little we had left
in a nineteen eighty two Honda Civic. I drove the
five ton truck out there. Martin followed in the Honda
Civic and flew out there and started work, and we
got a flat in Nashville and spent oh I got
three or four three and a half years there. And
during that time, in nineteen ninety four, there was this
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thing called the Internet, and I was writing songs with
a very famous Australian legendary musician called Brian Kad. I
went over to his house one day and he said, oh, mate,
he said, have you seen this thing called the Internet.
It's bloody amazing. It's like a library book. And you
go here. You got to unplug the fax machine and
plug the computer in to this thing called a modem,
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and you wait for the boomerang, put on, put on,
and then once the boomerang settled down, all these things
will come up on your computer and you can if
they're under lined and blue, you can click on them
and you can go to another place in the world.
It's like it's like a big connected library book. So
my brain is exploding, like you're yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, you're all over the place now you are codes.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So we finished writing a bunch of our songs for
the day, and I stopped in at the Nashville Davidson
County Library System on the way home, and there were
only fourteen books in the entire world written on HTML code,
which is the base hypertext market language, the code that
runs the Internet. So I ordered them. They had to
be they had to be ordered in from DC and
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New York and San Francisco and San Jose and whatever.
So I got these fourteen books for twenty one days
from the library. We locked ourselves in at way too
much Papa John's Pizza, and my husband and I taught
ourselves code and opened Pcartney Multimedia and the business. And
I went up and down music road, knocking on publishers
doors and theaters and artists management, saying, you need a website.
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And here's why, why do I need a website? What's
a website. I'm like, no, it's a website with a T. Well,
why would I need one? And so we built them
for Oh my gosh, Clint black Leanne Rhymes, And that's
how we started the business. I just went knocking on
doors in Nashville and we were the only people in
town who knew h I called an old buddy, David Cassidy,
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and I said, I've bought you this thing called a
dot com. You are now officially Davidcassidy dot com. Every
time you get on stage, put that on the drumhead
and say, you know, you've changed your name to David
Cassidy dot com. And sure enough, we built up a
huge following there. But in those days, you couldn't collect date, name, address, city, states,
if you couldn't put any thing into the Internet. It
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was a one way display window. And so we jacked
away to make FileMaker pro work with HTML and we
were among the first people to start collecting fan data,
which turned into iphans dot com, which we then sold
to Constant Contact. And it's all about permission based marketing.
I still say to people today. They're like, well, why
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do I need a web page or a dot com?
I said because, And they say I've got fifteen thousand
likes on Facebook, and I say, yeah, who are they?
What's their middle initial? Where do they live, how do
you get in touch with them? What's the zip code?
What do they allergic to? What music do they listen to?
What sports team do they follow? Mark Zuckerberg knows? Do
you know? And they're like light bulb goes on, Oh,
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I need my own guest book. I need my own Yeah,
yeah you do, because without permission. And winding back to
John Lennon, he used to call the fans the customers.
He'd come and visit occasionally for the weekend, and we
had all the fan mail for Paul that we used
to help FRIEDA. Kelly who ran the fan club with
Brian Epstein or Brian Epstein. We used to get all
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the Paul fan mail and and would sort it, and
I would help with pocket money to earn pocket money.
And john would go sit on the floor underneath the
dining table and say, all these big bankers boxes and
he said, oh, look at all these lovely customers. These
were all in Japan and these rule in Australia. Because
and would sort them, you know, being the consummate secretary,
and so I you know, I was about eight, and
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I said, why do you call them customers? Uncle Johnny said, well,
because they're spending money. And if there was only a
way where we could pull them and ask them what
songs should we do next? As a single? Where should
we go next for a concert? Which countries would like
to see us? He basically invented the Internet underneath our
dining table, but it would be forty years before the
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technology was there to support it.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yes, yes, interesting, interesting, So you came up with this
idea and you then and how long then did you stay?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
In now film?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We were there about three and a half years, and
Martin started getting a lot of jingles and voiceover work.
He's born in born and bred in Germany, so he's
completely bilingual. His native language is German, and so he
was flying back and forth to La a Lot and
he's like, oh dude, I love this place and I'm like,
all right, well, you know we can, we can give
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it another crack, we can turn around and go back
because he had lived, you know, we were living together
in the valley in Woodland Hills when the when the
earth cracked, and so he's like, I miss La, I
want to go back, and so we did, and we
came to where we are now, in Playa del Rey,
which is near La x Yes, and we'd started the business,
so we were incorporated and we just kept going. And
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so another happenstance happened where I got my hands on
a whole bunch of domain names, including McCartney dot com,
Fleetwoodmac dot com, Donna dot com, the Pope dot com,
oh you name it. And that's a story for another day.
But I then had all of these dot coms I'd
paid fifty bucks each forum, and I went around Hollywood
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giving them away on the proviso that if I gave
you your dot com but it's still only nineteen ninety
seven April by this point, if I give you your
dot com free and clear, you agree to use our
firm to build your website, run your fanclub, help with
your merchandising, and so on and so forth. So that's
how we got a ton of those celebrity clients is
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because we made we turned them on to being the
owners of their own dot com.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And did they keep their word?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. I mean a lot of them
have faded away since the bands have broken up or whatever,
but we still have the jazz great Steve Tyrell as
the client after gosh thirty years, Edgar Winter, the rock
and roller Edgar Winter dot com, which we're in the
middle of redoing again for the umpteeth time he's been
with us, I think thirty one years. So we started
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doing this well when Mark Zuckerberg was nine.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Think about that, Think about that.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I know, yeah, sober thought we might we might know
what we're doing by.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Now right now?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And actually in all awareness party
where he is because of some of the things that
you brought to be right.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, yeah, I don't know about that, but you know,
we are nudge them along. We managed, we manage social
media for lots of client accounts to make sure they're
on brand and on message. And you know, we're about
to meet and potentially partner with a reputation crisis management
firm because some of the people we represent will go
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do stupid stuff and hack their own passwords and take
take things and drink things in the middle of the
night they shouldn't and then get on Twitter whoop.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Or drive their cars or.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Drive So yeah, sometimes you need crisis management. And then
on the other side.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Because we know a few people who could handle crisis
management in the world.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Not all get into politics, but in the in the meantime,
I just you know, I'm sixty five now and going
to rock loud rock concerts.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Been there, done that, enjoyed it. Just you know, the
high heels in the late nights are not my thing anymore.
And so my husband said, about five years ago, Martin said, well,
you love what you do, and you love kind of
managing people in their their brand and their pr what
is it you're passionate about. I said, well, I'm a foodie.
I've got the Food Network on you know, speed dial
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in the background, and so now we manage the pr
media representation, in some cases social media for a bunch
of Michelin Star Chef for James Beard, Best Chef Texas winner,
Bib Gourmand, Cheroke, Chucktaw Native Restaurant. A lot of them
are in Houston. We've got a kid up in Dallas
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who's running a five star lobster mac and cheese truck.
We're getting him TV appearances and all of that stuff.
So chefs are just like rock stars. They don't play guitars,
but they have frying pants. So it's really not that
much of a difference when you're you know, you're doing
media for people. They're not singing, but they're producing food.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
But I would guess that they probably don't even think
about doing as much self promotion as they do.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
You have to if you want to get on the
James Beard list or the you want micheon in your restaurant, wards,
your restaurant and your chef has to rise above the
noise in any given city, and Houston has twenty nine
thousand restaurants and six and six Michelin stars. So you
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have to do a lot of promotion, glad handing, good will,
charity events, invitation dinners, entertaining, you know, all of that
behind the scenes stuff, which is what we handle for
a lot of our culinary clients.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes, and I'm sure they're so glad to have you
as representing them.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, they're They're all great to work with them, and
they're so hard working. But they have that same A
kitchen has the same camaraderie as a tour bus.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
You know, it's a film crew.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
There's a film. It's very similar there. Yeah, they're all
brothers and sisters at arms, and their goal is to
you know, have a perfect show or have a perfect
service and see the fans go home happy or the
diners go home happy. It's really you know, the restaurant
business done right is show business. Yes, yeah, that's really
at that level. You know, unless you're slinging hash somewhere
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and making five grand a day and enjoying it. Good
on you.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Some of my favorite food is is you know, the
plain jaye meat and potato type stuff. But when you're
trying to put on a Michelin type experience. It's front
of house, it's back of house. It's down to you know,
folding the neckins and polishing the glasses and just everything.
The smile that greets you when you, you know, step
up to the front desk. So it's it's showbiz. It's
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what I grew up and it's really no different.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
And unfortunately diners are very fickle. Right, one bad experience,
that's it, and I can come back again.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And in the music business, there really isn't a Yelp
for bad concerts. People just go, eh, I couldn't hear,
or I had bad seats, or his voice was a
little off, or she, you know, she sang a little
flat or whatever. But they'll share that amongst themselves. They'll
whine on their own Facebook page. But the problem that
restaurants have is Yelp and Trip Advisor and you know,
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Google My Business and all of that. Fortunately, we're partnered
with a company out of Miami called fave Me, which
they manage expectations and they manage ratings and stuff for restaurants,
and they have relationships with these big companies that if
somebody's being mean and unfair in an unjustified way they
can get those those reviews to you, the bad reviews
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taken down if it's patently obvious that it's a put
up job. You know. But you know, you think about
a chef or somebody running a restaurant. They have to
deal with all of this stuff, the health department, of
the alcohol department, the slipping fall, the workers camp, let
alone buying and presenting the food and coming up with menus.
It's a rough game, man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Absolutely it is. Let's talk about your books. Oh yeah,
it was the first book. And what inspired you?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Well, I think initially it must have been those letters
from my brother with the red corrections were only used
to say good, do better. I think then I probably
had the idea at the back of my head I
wanted to be a writer. And it didn't happen until
nineteen ten years ago. Now, yeah, ten years ago, and
(33:42):
I think it's twelve years, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
And this book is called Andrew McCartney my longer wedding group,
the first eighty two point nine years.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, so I was eighty three when it actually hit
the bookshelves.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
She's nearly ninety six.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Nearly ninety six, and I'm on my ninth book. So yeah,
that was mostly about my life and you know the
things we've talked about today. And then I moved on
and of course I found by being on the internet,
I was in touch with a lot of people who
are Beatle fans and they used to write to me
and ask me things. So that started me on the
(34:18):
trend of writing things like Ticket to Ride, which is
a description of a lot of the main places where
the Beatles played and were known.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, I just I just bought The Hard Heart.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, I just know one yesterday actually too.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah. It's subtitle was a day trippers Guide to Legendary
Beatles Locations. Yeah, it covers Liverpool, London, Hamburg, New York
and LA they must see Beatlestocks. It's published by Imagining
Wonder out in New York. And as you were saying, well,
each place, each location has its own dedicated QR code,
(34:55):
which is a landing page that my husband Martin built
on McCartney dot com, which is able you know, if
people's opening hours change, or the price is change, or
if somewhere shuts down. We keep those all updated. So
it's a book that never goes out of date because
if you scan the QR code. It takes you to
the Internet to relate to the latest and greatest whatever
(35:16):
it is. So that yeah, that's that's really And.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Is that the book that has the radio in Hamburg?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, it's not. That is a book called There Are
Faces I Remember, which is also published by Imagine and Wonder,
and it comes This is just a slip box because
it weighs seven and a half pounds.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So it's a beautiful book. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
This this These are paintings by an artist by the
name of Shannon MacDonald and it's absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
They feel photographs you.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Would think they were, but all of the photographs inside
I digitally painted. So I did the artwork inside and
Shannon did the cover. And there's a QR code there
to something called Liverpool Live Radio, which you're amazing. So
every time you scan it you just get live on
air what's happening, so you can get the football results,
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the English weather, whatever music they're playing. It's for people
to brush up on their scouts accent before they go
to Liverpool.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I opened it and I scan on it and there
is it's just live radio. That's really fascinated.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Then Angie or Ruth, you told me about the story
of that, and I forgot the name of the company
so called my husband, I said, oh, you can now
listen to live radio in Holland.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yes, it's called https radio dot Garden. It's not dot com,
it's dot garden. So Radio dot Garden and it's an
app in the appen and Samsung Store, the Google Play Store,
and you can also just dial it in your browser.
And it's a combination project between Google Earth and the
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University of Hilversum in Holland, who was one of the
very first long range AM radio cities in the world.
And you used to listen to Hilverson on AM radio
back in the day in England in the nineteen thirties,
and so yeah, they just gave the radio station a
line of code and they implement it in their RSS
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feed and you can listen to It's funny when you
scroll across the globe you see all of these clusters
of dots all over Europe, and then you get further
east and further east, and the globe is North Korea
and there's like one dot inyang no no, and the
sound of things blowing up, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Pretty sad, pretty sad.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So then you and you're you're still writing correct book
coming out, we want to hear about it.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yes, I'm writing a book about well we have these too.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
This is with a little help from my stones. And
this is my cookbook that I compiled from British disappearing eighteenth,
nineteenth and early twentieth century British recipes. Again all illustrated
and researched by Moir. And the book is in black
and white to keep the cost reasonable. However, when you
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buy it, you scan the code and you get your
full color iPad kindle version, a digital version. All of
these pictures are then in color, including the Yummy Christmas book.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Well stop it.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So that's that one. And then we have another joint
book called All You Need Is Tea, and that subtitle
is Titans, Traditions, Tall Tales, Terroir and Tantalizing Treats. And
that is the complete history of tea from three hundred
and twenty BC all the way up until today, and
the story of all the tea titans like Twinings and
berries tea, and all of the history of all the
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India and Roebus from South Africa, and all of that stuff, and.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Those researching that one and then late late.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Those two are still coming up. You have another one,
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, they're all on missus McCartney's teas dot com. And
then this one that just came out literally last week
is called Words of Wisdom Twisted English and Linguistic Lunacy
for word nerds, and it includes spoonerisms, eggcorns, wellerisms, oxymorons, malapropisms,
tom swifties, pangrams, portmanteaus, idioms, contronyms, and antonyms, so it's
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it's a real nerds guide to the English language. And
inside it it's also got regional sayings from Liverpool, Manchester, rhyming, slang,
all of those things. And it's sort of written in
a very Monty pythonesque tongue in cheek sort of a way,
so it's it's a great insight into the English language,
(39:40):
but with you know, with tongue in cheek, and of course,
as ever, it has the q RCOs that take us
take you to our websites.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Of course, and then you have the limericks one also,
oh yes, that.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
We are sold out of unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh I must have bought your last copy.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Probably he possibly did. Yeah, but I have here the
writer's copy, so it's got a big great thing across it.
But that's called Missus McCartney's Liverpool Limericks and other random
Irish haikus. And it is basically the story of Liverpool,
the Fabs, all of the people from pop culture from
the sixties like Twiggy and Brian Epstein. And the whole
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book is written in Limerick format. And again I did
all of these illustrations. That's the Hollywood Bowl. There's the
whiskey of Go Go. I'm trying to get it in focus.
My camera's not doing so well. And that is the
Liverpool Limericks Book. And then Andre's working on yet another
one to be revealed, soon to be revealed.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay, well you can let us be the first ones
when you're ready to reveal it.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Okay, I will let you know. That's a promise.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Now tell us about the tea. So what inspired you?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I mean, I'm sure that you were inspired about teas
because of your living in England.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
What was the d said I need to sell tea?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Years ago? We had a party at the house here
and guests. I think it was very dumb. Yeah, I know,
it was four fourth of July. That's what I was
trying to help. And when I turned to this gentleman,
a friend of ours from Arizona, who doesn't drink. He
doesn't drink, I said, we would you like wine, beer, vodka?
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He said, no, I'd like a nice cup of tea.
And I'm sure, as you're from Liverpool, you must know
how to make tea properly. And just the light went on,
you know. We thought about it and he said, why
don't you start a tea company? So we started researching.
But it was very difficult.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Was it me about two and a half years to
find suppliers who didn't use children child no child labor
and no chemicals and fair trade and paying fair wages
and whatever. So our teas we have fourteen flavors and
they come from twenty three countries and they're blended up
in Buffalo, New York. And then we had to go
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down there, world, do you want loose tea or tea bags?
And tea bags are obviously more you know, appropriate, But
there's around once the square ones. There's tags, and there's staples,
and then there's soilon and then there's tetrahydrons people call
them pyramids, but they're actually tetrahydron, and so you know,
I had to research all the material and of course
nothing matches. It's like hot dogs and buns. So you
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buy the labels which come the little tags on the end.
They come in dozens, right in twelves. Everything else is decimal,
like the strings are in a thousand strings per bag.
But you get and then the soilon which only is
made in two companies in Japan, which is the nylon
material that doesn't melt in boiling water for the pyramid
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tetrahydron tea bags that comes in metric measurements. But the
way that the bags are all cut and the machines
that cut them here, they're all in feet and inches.
So just getting tea in a bag is like.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
All you want is a t bag. Oh my goodness,
that's what you go through.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And so then you get the insurance company who says, well,
are you going to heat seal the label to the string,
because if you use staples, you have to have a
ten million dollar insurance in case the staple goes in
somebody's cut. Yeah, so let's start a tea company.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Oh yeah, it's never easy, but we did.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, and it's our twentieth anniversary. Yeah, this year.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
The next time your friend says you must have a
cup of tea, you can say you can't imagine, you
don't even know.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
They don't even want to know.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yea, yeah, good Now we do this time of year,
we do a lot of corporate gifting because with the
way the labels are printed, we can do them in
small batches. Again, of course we have a QR code
on the back. But we just shipped a huge order
for hosting dot Com. They're giving away a thousand pouches
of tea at an upcoming conference and it says on
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the back a gift from missus McCartney's teas and from
our profits. Every year we give donations to the Lynda
McCartney Breast Cancer Research Unit in Liverpool in England.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yes, I see that, and I don't want to take
a long time, but it just want to make a
segue about I'm touched by your involvement still with Lynda
McCartney's fundraising, and she must have been a special person
to you.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
If there was one thing she taught me, she'd say,
if you haven't a great day, go outside, look up
to the sky and say thank you. If you're having
a bad day, go outside and look up to the
sky and realize how big the universe is and how
small the person is who's trying to make your day bad.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh a great story.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah, even if it's raining once day, take five minutes
for yourself. Just go outside and breathe. So even if
you're looking up into rain falling out of clouds, you're
part of something bigger. You're here for a reason, and
don't let anybody tell you you're not.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's a beautiful story.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And with all that you been through with the Beatles
and all of that, that you still remember her of
your fundraising, it must have been a really special relationship.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
She was amazing. I mean when you think about she,
you know, she landed from New York again with a
young daughter aged four. It was like, you know, history
repeating itself. Her daughter, Heather, heather Sea. Paul adopted her,
so she became Heather McCartney, just like I had become
Ruth McCartney. Yes, and she joined. She learned to sing,
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she learned to play keyboards. She had more of Paul's babies.
She started Linda McCartney's veget she turned to meatless mondays
was her thing. She turned a lot of people vegetarian.
She started the Linda McCartney frozen Foods. She continued to
be a photographer, She had exhibitions, and she was an
incredible mother and wife and touring musician. Holy moly. Yeah,
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she doesn't get enough credit.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
And I saw an interview with her and if she
originally didn't even start out as a photographer, it was
all kind of by accident how she came to p Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
She had a roommate called Lillian Roxon who was working
for Rolling Stone, and you shoved a camera in her
hand and said, I need somebody to go and photograph
the Rolling Stones tonight, and boom, there she was with
a Pentax or a Nikon I can't remember, on the
backstage pass and a backstage pass and she's like, I
better learn this fast.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
There's so many times in life when we think of
and you've been through them, as we all have, where
you think, what if I hadn't been there at that
exact moment?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
If yeah, what that?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
But if I hadn't been there?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
What if that day I was doing something else? What
if I was somewhere else?
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
What would have happened? Right, So that's a pretty amazing story.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, it's a very interesting book called what If, namely
with Beetle World and what if this happened? Happened? What
if Fallen John had not met on the day. Yes,
and it's very interesting by David Bedford. That's on Amazon
dot com. There you are, David, I gave you book
a plug.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
And now let me ask you about the wine so
I can understand the tea.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Where at what point did you start selling wine?
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Well, that's in limbo at the moment. We're trying to
find a new distribution avenue. It's very difficult. Again, you
think tea is difficult, wine and alcohol across state lines
and every administration has their own new rules depending upon
whether that administration in vibes or not, and so trying
to shit. The wines are incredible. They're fruit and dessert wines.
So we have Mahishi Pachabbey Road Apple. They're only eight
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percent and if you're in Texas or Louisiana you can
buy them, no problem. But we're trying to redo our
distribution at the moment simply because and your friend Patrick
will know about all of this is simply because of
you know, state shipping rules and winery rules and so
on and so forth. But missus McCartney's wines dot com
is still there, so people can go check it out
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and join the mailing list and we'll bust out an
email when we're wantimistic ready to rock again. Yeah, they
make great cocktail mixes, so we have there or with
afternoon tea, so they're like a sherry or a port.
We have BlackBerry, blueberry, peach apple, and I forget strawberry, strawberry.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Fie of course, strawberry fields.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, a little.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Drop in a prosecco or you know, in place of
apparel or campire you something like that.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
So, of course our viewers and our listeners are going
to ask what's next, and especially Angie, doctor Angie McCartney,
to be sure we get that in there, that what
is next for you? It seems your energy is unless
both of you have ideas that never stop, which I
love and.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Can certainly relate to.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
And Ruth, I'm so fascinated by both of you that
you see something in Okay, what can I do with that?
And so I'll just go to the library and get
the twelve books that they have and I will create
this and oh, by the way, dot com so I'll
just buy everybody's names and then I'll go knock on
their doors.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
So what's now, Do you know what's next?
Speaker 4 (49:02):
No, I don't. Actually, I'm trying to find a way
for peeven to encourage people to be kind to each other,
to listen to each other, to listen to the other side,
even if you think it's rubbish, just listen, you know.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, I just well, for on the book side, she's again,
I was saying, she's writing, researching and interviewing people. Of
course every week on Facebook live on doctor Angie McCartney's page,
and then later on YouTube. We have te flicks Tuesdays.
It's like Netflix, but it's teef Flix. We have some
fascinating guests, a lot of beatle authors. We like to
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promote their books and keep that sort of family of
you know, old hippies alive around the world. And yeah,
I know, I'm just I'm looking forward to continuing to
work with not just existing clients, but you know, helping
young restaurateurs and young chefs really get the recognition they
deserve for all the hard work they do. You know,
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feeding us and making us happy.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Of all the things that you have done, what do
you want to be remembered for.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
You?
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Mother? One? Oh, I'm going all stoppy. Now I'm going
to stop sniffing and crying.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, I don't you know, I honestly don't know. Just
if if there's a headstone anywhere just she was kind.
I just try to be kind to people. When I
go to the supermarket. If I see somebody who is
not particularly prepossessing, but they've made an effort, I'll say, Wow,
that is a great color on you, or look at
your nails, aren't you gorgeous? Or just just compliment somebody
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who looks like they need it. I do it every
single day. That makes me feel.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Great because you never know what's going on in their life. No, no, absolutely,
you never know. And you've heard you say, I've read
that any day above ground is a bonus, right it is.
And so you're you're you, you have a You've been
a great mother, obviously, you know you've You've allowed Ruth
(51:05):
and welcomed the opportunity for her to become all the
things that she is. You I'm sure there were times
when you sheltered her in her young life as well
as allowed her to be in the middle of all
this excitement.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
There were also times when I was in my pop
Russian pop star phase touring across Russia, Lithuania at the
Armenia Siberia whatever, that she came in the helicopter with
me and drank vodka for breakfast. So you know, has
always woolf No.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And by the way, I saw the video about there's
a six minute video about young on YouTube that I
saw that incorporated some of that, which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
So that was.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
A fun phase going being a pop star in a
country where you can come out of Russia and go
home and nobody recognizes you and you don't get bothered
at the supermarket, but you know, a thousand miles away,
you get off the plane in Moscow and your mob.
It was like living for two different people. It was bizarre.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
It was great first in Moscow. So all these camera
crews at the airport thought, I wonder if Michael Jackson's
on display.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yeah, I was looking around the arrivals Hale from Madonna.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
But they've been running have one and only video on
all nine time zones. Yeah, before we get amazing and
McCartney is coming.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah, McCarty.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
It was the other one.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
The billboards they put up McCartney's coming to Moscow. They
didn't tell him it was this one.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
This one. Well, they should have. They should have. They
should have, they should have.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And Ruth, I've heard you say, should never be afraid
to number one pivot, which certainly the two of you
have done multiple times. You should never be afraid to
reach for the stars, which you also have done multiple Yeah.
And number three, never be afraid to get anybody in
the world on the phone.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Is that still the Pope?
Speaker 3 (52:55):
It could be the Pope, It could be. Yeah. I
used to I used to take challenges. It's it's not
so easy now nowadays with cell phones. But if you've
got something you really want to say to somebody in
a position of power, I mean, and what I mean
the metaphor of never be afraid to get anybody in
the world on the phone is never be afraid to
speak truth to power. If it's something you're passionate about,
find a way to get your message to the game changes.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Great message, great message, ladies. Thank you so much. This
has been a delight and honor a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
We're an honor.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Oh I we loved it.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Oh you're amazing and inspiring and energetic and all of
those things, all the things that we all would love
to take away from.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
This, and much about yourself, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Your spirit.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Thank you for being our guest today and celcal with
val We do have another radio show that's Always Ageless
with Valerie V which airs on the same station, and
we hope that you'll be a guest on that show
as well. Thank you very much, and and God bless
you both and wishing you much health. And I'm in
line for your next books and for some corporate to
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you as well.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Excellent jolly good well hey hashtag go power.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
God bless
Imagine being asked three questions all at once, would you
be my housekeeper, would you be my companion?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Or would you marry me?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's exactly what happened to today's guest, and her answer
changed her life in so many ways and brought her
into one of the most extraordinary families actually in history.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But here's the twist.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
While the world knows her as all McCartney's stepmom, we
know her as so much more. She's a wartime Liverpool survivor,
a young widow who started all over, a mother and
a stepmother who blended families with grace and so much bravery,
and a woman who went on to become an author,
(01:15):
an entrepreneur, a te connoisseur, and even earned her doctorate
degree in her eighties. Joining doctor Angie McCartney today is
her amazing daughter, Ruth, Because this is also a story
about the beautiful bond between a mother and a daughter
who've become business partners, best friends, and proof that the
(01:39):
powerful legacy we can leave is showing others how to
fearlessly live and with kindness. These two exemplify terminal optimism.
Angie and Ruth run an organic tea company. They have
co authored multiple books, amazing books, and they have more
energy than people have their age. But more than that,
(02:03):
they both have story. Oh the stories they have about resilience,
reinvention over and over again, and the magic that happens
when you refuse to let your dreams have an expiration date.
So pour yourself a cup of something warm, preferably a
cup of Missus McCartney's team, Get comfortable and be prepared
(02:26):
to be inspired by two women who embody everything. We
believe here that life isn't about the number of years
you've lived, but about the life you've packed into the
years that you are on this earth. Ladies and gentlemen,
let me introduce to you the unstoppable, the unforgettable, the
absolutely ageless, Doctor Angie McCartney and our wonderful daughter Ruth.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They are witty, they are wise. They both have.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Stories to tell that will make you laugh, make you cry,
bring a tear to your eye, and death only surprise
you dayan always ageless.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We're not just here to talk about Beatles' history.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We're talking about their story, the remarkable journey of doctor
Angie McCartney and her daughter Ruth.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Stay with us.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
This is a conversation you will remember doctor Angie McCartney
and Ruth McCartney.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Welcome to Always Ageless.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Thank you, thanks so much for having us, pleasure to be.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Here, delighted.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
We are so glad to have you, and just want
to ask you briefly, Angie, about your life before you
met Jim McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
McCartney. Excuse me, and you were a child during the war.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Do you remember being in actually where your homes bombed
in Liverpool?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
What was that experience like?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, I was born in nineteen twenty nine, so I
was nine or ten nine, Yeah, when the war started,
and I don't really remember it being troublesome. We just
got home with it, was, I guess is the Liverpool
way of doing things. You just take life by the
throat every day and get on with it. And the
sense of humor is a great help.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That their neighbor's house, doctor McAlpine, five houses down that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, every morning, when we'd get out of the area shelter,
my sister Joan and I would go for a walk
around the district to see which houses have been bombed
and what was left. And doctor McAlpine about a mile
away that my father had worked for as a pharmacist.
His house was no more, it was just a big
crater smoking. Still, those kind of memories I still have.
(04:36):
I occasionally have a nightmare and think about them, So
it's buried somewhere in the back of my brain what's left. Bit.
But we go along with it, you know. And we
used to have sing songs and spelling bees and crossword
puzzles and all kinds of things in the area shelter
to keep us occupied. And we didn't really worry about
(04:57):
the bombs too much.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
But except that you had to be except that they
brought you, took you out of school because the school had.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
To be used for the school had to be used
for people whose homes have been bombed. So we used
to just meet once a week for half a day
in a neighbor's house with the teacher and just do
roll calls, say a prayer, just exchange stories about what
was happening, and that was it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
See whose dad was growing tomatoes and see whose mom
was growing cabbage.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yes, you just you know, took it in our stride.
And we didn't think we were having a bad time
because we always had a sing song every night and
laughed a lot and still doing it, same, same, same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And grateful for the moments that you had your family together.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Oh absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
How did your relationship with Jim begin?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
He said, I want to ask you something, and I
looked up and I said, the answer is yes. He said,
I have dusk to the bloody question yet. So we
sat down again and he said, well, you know, Paul
has bought this lovely house for me, but I live
here all alone. I've got arthriters starting, so I can't
really get a car and learn to drive. I need
(06:15):
somebody to take care of me. Would you be interested
either in being my housekeeper or living with me, or
getting married even? And I thought for all of one
split second and said getting married, because in those days,
with a four year old daughter, you didn't want to
be living in sin as it were with an elderly
(06:37):
man with all the good fortune that had just surrounded Jim.
So that was it. We decided we'd work on it
and get married. Shortly after, the phone rang and Jim
answered that phone was in the hall. We only had
one phone in the house in those days, can you imagine.
And I heard him say, hello, son, yes she is,
(07:00):
yes I have yes we are, And she come and
speak to Paul. Oh boy. So I came across and
spoke to Paul and he said, hello, you sound nice.
I mean, what's a stupid thing to say. You've just
found out it's going to be your stepmother and she's
got a four year old in tow. So he said,
(07:21):
so you're staying tonight. I said yes. He said, well,
I'll jump in the car. I'm in London now. I said,
probably take about three hours, which he did in those
days when the motor ways were more so it was
after midnight before he actually arrived. And when he came in,
I was in the kitchen washing up some cups and
saucers from the many pots of tea we've had. And
(07:43):
he came in through the garage and he was all
dressed formally in a beige suit and a striped tie
and brown lace up shoes, not looking anything like a beetle,
but more like a businessman. And he said hello, I'm Paul,
and I said, yeah, I think I know that. So
we sat in the lounge and had another pot of
(08:05):
tea and he said, so where's the baby? Get the
baby baby? So I brought her downstairs, plumped her on
Paul's lap, and you take over from here.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So I was obviously fast asleep in the dark and
in what was to become my room eventually, and and
comes and scoops me up in my little pink and
white polka up pajamas and brings me down and you know, daylight,
electric light, and I'm like, where am I? I'm all confused.
I'm four and a half years old at this point,
(08:38):
and I've just had my kidney out in what May
of that year, made the seventeen sixty and this is
sort of around November. So I've got a huge scar
of like two hundred and ten stitches running from you know,
all the way around my right hand side. And they
had been talking about it downstairs, and I was sat
(08:59):
on Paul's lap and I looked up and I clucked
his face, and I thought, I know this bloke from somewhere.
I've seen him somewhere. It was driving me mad. And
of course newspapers, television, the Beatles, you know, it's the
middle of sixty four in Liverpool. And he said, oh,
but I said, you want to see my scar? Do
you want to see my stitches? And so I pull
up my pajamas and he said Oh boy, that's a
(09:20):
big scar for a little girl. Ringo's got a scar
on his tummy. He's had his appendix out and da
da da. And as soon as he said Ringo, I went, oh,
wait a second, I know who you are. You're on
my cousin's wallpaper. My cousin Geraldine had been wallpaper. She
was mortified.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It was sure an icebreaker, that's for sure. We all
roared laughing.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And everybody laughed, and I was like, I knew, I
knew you from somewhere. You're on my cousin's wallpaper.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
She's been breaking eye ever since.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Oh yeah, by then, you would have had the right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They would have been putting stuff on their wallpaper right
by that time.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Oh yes, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
In England absolutely. I mean they had done Ed Sullivan
in the first week of February of that year and
everything had just gone mad. So they'd done merchandise deals,
they'd formed cell Tabe Limited. There were lunch boxes, there
were beatle boots, there were beetlewigs, there were a year
no you name it. And so my cousin, Geraldine, who's
two or three years older than me, had a little
They called him a wendy house, a playhouse at the
(10:16):
bottom of the garden that uncle Peter built for her
out of you know, scrap wood and left over window
frames and stuff, and she got her hands on a
roll of So I'm four, she's seven, and she persuaded
her older brother, my cousin Peter, to wallpaper the Wendy
House with the Beatles, and of course I recognized his
face and she was mortified. She's like, oh, God, don't
(10:38):
come off like a fan.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, yeah, yeah, So tell me did you then?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Did you fall in love with Jim McCartney. Did you
have a wonderful relationship?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No, we just had a sort of kinship and both
had a need for a better life.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I did as a child. I just loved him.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah. Well we just grew, you know, closer and closer,
and we really loved one another after a while, and
realized how much we had in common and how much
each of us had sort of gone through in different ways,
and we were really thankful to be together and you know,
cared for and financially sound andapionship.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Same sense of humor, same background, both piano players, both
great musicians.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Was that he had he was a pianist?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Answer Jim had a band in his younger days. It
was called Jim Max Jazz Band, and I'll send you
some information about it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
A huge band. He used to play all the big
ballrooms in Liverpool. And there's a film, a graphic novel
by a very famous English author whose name escapes me now,
Raymond Jones, I think, and it's called Ethel and Ernest.
And they made it into a film and it's about
a wartime couple. It's a sort of you know, a
cartoon film, and they go out, they save save up
(12:00):
and they go on a date to the Grafton Ballroom.
And there's a little easter egg in the movie, a
nod to my dad because they used his music, his
one and only song in the film. And as they're
walking in there playing this song walking in the park
with Elouise, and there's a poster that the artists drew
tonight one night only Jim Max Band and it's like, ah,
(12:20):
he made it, he made it too. He made it
to Hollywood after all these years.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You know. Yeah, I'll send you some information week and
look at it. All of it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That would that would be wonderful, We would we would
like that and Ruth. Then he became your dad.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yes, yeah, he became my dad. He adopted me. We
were flying somewhere. I think it was the South and
the Bahamas, that's right. It was Angine Jim's sort of
official honeymoon in the end of January nineteen sixty five. Yeah,
was it February? Yeah, And I was going to celebrate
my fifth birthday and George Harrison was having a birthday
(12:59):
ten days Help and the Beatles were filming Help, and
so the office in London arranged for us to go out.
I think they probably got free rooms at the ball
Moral Club, so, you know, all we had to spring
Ford was the tickets, and we were flying out and
they used to call passengers by name in those days,
and so it was mister James and missus Angela McCartney,
(13:20):
and they called them forward to get their boarding passes,
and of course I was still Ruth Williams way down
the alphabet. So I'm standing there crying, and Andre's like,
I'm not getting on the plane and Leaven, you know,
and so a light bulb went off in Dad's head
and He's like, now she has to have the same
last name. As soon as we get home, I'm doing
adoption papers. I'm going to illegally adopt her. And so
(13:41):
that's how I became from Ruth Williams to Ruth McCartney
at the tender age of five. Because and you know,
if that had never happened, like well, may never have
gone on. But he was so patient with me. I
was a little pain in the neck. I was, you know,
four or five years, hopping up and down on one leg,
Kurt saying, I bet you can't do this, and you're right,
(14:03):
I've got riders in every bone in the body, and yeah,
I can't do that.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Now. I think she introduced a new angle on life
to him, because he's been a wonderful father to his
boys after Mary died, with both father and mother and
housekeeper and friend to the boys. And it was lovely
to have this carefree little thing skipping around the back
garden and he had a swing put in for her
(14:30):
and the paddling pool and different things, and he reveled
in it. He was really wonderful. He was strict with
her too, table manners and thank you notes, and you know,
so I think it was good to have that grounding
when she was so young.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And how was it how was it being.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Parents co parents, let's say, to the guys, to the Beatles,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You both had completely different perspectives.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Right, absolutely. Yes, Michael was still single at that stage,
but he was in a group called the Scaffold, a
satirical group, and they were touring the country, so he
was away a lot of the time.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He lived at home.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
He lived at home with us.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Don't forget the age difference. So you know, I was
four and Paul was twenty two. Mike would have been
twenty twenty or twenty one, so and wasn't really co
parenting them.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It was only twelve years older than Paul.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, so she's only still still still twelve years older
than Paul. Yeah, so that was it wasn't sort of
a parenting relationship.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
He lived in London by then, because of course they
were always traveling and doing radio shows and television shows
and so on.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So he'd come up to Liverpool every year, every other
weekend or every third weekend when but he could.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, but you talk about icee stories about that. You
would be in the kitchen and yet around the front
gate of the house, you know, everybody was there and
everybody was hanging around. Yes, was Jim more patient with
that or was it? Did it annoy him?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
And he was very, very timid and very self effacing.
He was overwhelmed, that absolutely, but he never wanted to
be unkind, but he certainly didn't want to get surrounded.
And he used to like to go for a walk
down to the lower village and go and have a
scotch in the little pub in the village. And then
he found it was getting to be surrounded and more
(16:27):
or less mobbed, so he had to give that up.
But once day and I settled in and he got
me driving lessons and bought me a car, I was
able to take him out and we could just whip
through the crowd and go on.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I mean, while I was going to school in Heswell
at the Puddydale, I guess you would call it a.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Case elementary school K through twelve now.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Elementaries older anyway, So I start there on you know,
four years old. You start school in England four or five.
And the head master, God bless mister Kitchen, thought he
was doing a really good thing when he the day
before I started, one day after school went in so
the first day of school he gathered all the students
together and said, now this this little girl coming in
(17:11):
and she called Ruth, and she's just come into the
McCartney family. And yes she's related to a beadle, but
you're to leave her alone, don't make any special fuss
about her. So when you tell a bunch of seven
eight nine year old kids, especially boys, don't bully this child,
leave her alone, don't don't steal her lunch, don't steal
her Wellington. I mean one guy, one little boy, actually
(17:32):
went to the bathroom in my Wellington book, did Wellington?
He said, you know what I mean. And because we
all had uniforms, you had to have embroidered labels with
your name in the back of your coat and shirt
and jacketed. You know, every you'd stitch your name in.
And so I mean we went through rolls and rolls
and rolls of these embroidered labels had to stitch to
me because kids and kids would.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Bring because they'd take them on for souvenirs.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It would say McCartney on it. I would have kids
who would come and cut pieces of my hair, Ah,
steal my I mean, it was insane and.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Wasn't very nice.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Still, don't own a pair of wellies to this day.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But that was enough. That was enough.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It does. It never rains in southern California, so.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know you don't need them. Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We got out of that relationship and moved to London.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
That's when Tim Kendall's mother, Barrel Candall.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
That we moved to Sydney. That was yes, that's when
my cousin Tim's mother, Beryl, once we'd visas in Australia,
had run out. She said, well, I'm sort of on
the way home to England. I'm in Lagoon and ne
Gel do you want to come and stay with me
for as long as you can? And you know, see
what you see, what you think about America and try
and get on your feet. So still, so we moved
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in with with cousin Tim, cousin Debbie, and I think
Lynn was still living at home, and the late great
Beryl Candle and h and were I met my first
wonderful husband who are still dear friends to this day.
And so the whirlwind romance a little like Angie Jim
got married, stayed and the rest is history. I'm on
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host number three now, but you know.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And so your current husband is number three.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Number three. I think I think I'll keep him. He's
a good one. Martin another cut.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, it seems that you get along pretty well.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh yeah, we all live together. Angel Lip's downstairs and
we His recording and recording studio is in heretairs, His
video editing suite is upstairs, and we have the master
suite upstairs, and AND's got her office and her you know,
bookshelves and her author stuff down here, and we all
just get up every morning. He drinks coffee, we drink tea,
(19:45):
and we roll our sleeves up and keep getting it done.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And how fun. So let's go to you.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Let's talk about Now you're in Los Angeles and you've
become entrepreneurs, authors, Let's talk about when did that stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
What was the first thing I got?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Sorry, no, go ahead. I got secretarial work with a
temp agency, and I met a few people from there,
which you know, gradually turned into one job after another.
Worked for Penthouse Magazine, which.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Was a good journey.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, noughty, but noughty. She wasn't.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I wasn't in it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I used to just answer the phones and oh boy,
did we get some phone calls.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
We take turns on reception. Penthouse omni four wheeler magazine,
Can I help you? And of course they were never
calling with questions about omni or four wheeler.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah. I used to get the heavy breathers that did
say what are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh boys, I'd say, well Wellington booths and killed you know. Yeah,
we did, We did our jobs. And then in nineteen
ninety four, the Northrought earthquake took their house we were
renting in Woodland Hills. It split the foundation open and
and at that point was working for USA Today as
(21:06):
a secretary, and Martin was freelancing. His learned trade, apart
from being an incredible musician and producer, was import export
forwarding agent. So he was working doing that, and we
decided Nashville was hot, Nashville was music city. I'm a lyricist.
He's a songwriter and lyricist and could transfer her job anywhere.
(21:29):
So she moved from the USA Today to the Tennessee.
And in Nashville, we packed what little we had left
in a nineteen eighty two Honda Civic. I drove the
five ton truck out there. Martin followed in the Honda
Civic and flew out there and started work, and we
got a flat in Nashville and spent oh I got
three or four three and a half years there. And
during that time, in nineteen ninety four, there was this
(21:52):
thing called the Internet, and I was writing songs with
a very famous Australian legendary musician called Brian Kad. I
went over to his house one day and he said, oh, mate,
he said, have you seen this thing called the Internet.
It's bloody amazing. It's like a library book. And you
go here. You got to unplug the fax machine and
plug the computer in to this thing called a modem,
(22:13):
and you wait for the boomerang, put on, put on,
and then once the boomerang settled down, all these things
will come up on your computer and you can if
they're under lined and blue, you can click on them
and you can go to another place in the world.
It's like it's like a big connected library book. So
my brain is exploding, like you're yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, you're all over the place now you are codes.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So we finished writing a bunch of our songs for
the day, and I stopped in at the Nashville Davidson
County Library System on the way home, and there were
only fourteen books in the entire world written on HTML code,
which is the base hypertext market language, the code that
runs the Internet. So I ordered them. They had to
be they had to be ordered in from DC and
(22:56):
New York and San Francisco and San Jose and whatever.
So I got these fourteen books for twenty one days
from the library. We locked ourselves in at way too
much Papa John's Pizza, and my husband and I taught
ourselves code and opened Pcartney Multimedia and the business. And
I went up and down music road, knocking on publishers
doors and theaters and artists management, saying, you need a website.
(23:19):
And here's why, why do I need a website? What's
a website. I'm like, no, it's a website with a T. Well,
why would I need one? And so we built them
for Oh my gosh, Clint black Leanne Rhymes, And that's
how we started the business. I just went knocking on
doors in Nashville and we were the only people in
town who knew h I called an old buddy, David Cassidy,
(23:40):
and I said, I've bought you this thing called a
dot com. You are now officially Davidcassidy dot com. Every
time you get on stage, put that on the drumhead
and say, you know, you've changed your name to David
Cassidy dot com. And sure enough, we built up a
huge following there. But in those days, you couldn't collect date, name, address, city, states,
if you couldn't put any thing into the Internet. It
(24:01):
was a one way display window. And so we jacked
away to make FileMaker pro work with HTML and we
were among the first people to start collecting fan data,
which turned into iphans dot com, which we then sold
to Constant Contact. And it's all about permission based marketing.
I still say to people today. They're like, well, why
(24:23):
do I need a web page or a dot com?
I said because, And they say I've got fifteen thousand
likes on Facebook, and I say, yeah, who are they?
What's their middle initial? Where do they live, how do
you get in touch with them? What's the zip code?
What do they allergic to? What music do they listen to?
What sports team do they follow? Mark Zuckerberg knows? Do
you know? And they're like light bulb goes on, Oh,
(24:46):
I need my own guest book. I need my own Yeah,
yeah you do, because without permission. And winding back to
John Lennon, he used to call the fans the customers.
He'd come and visit occasionally for the weekend, and we
had all the fan mail for Paul that we used
to help FRIEDA. Kelly who ran the fan club with
Brian Epstein or Brian Epstein. We used to get all
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the Paul fan mail and and would sort it, and
I would help with pocket money to earn pocket money.
And john would go sit on the floor underneath the
dining table and say, all these big bankers boxes and
he said, oh, look at all these lovely customers. These
were all in Japan and these rule in Australia. Because
and would sort them, you know, being the consummate secretary,
and so I you know, I was about eight, and
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I said, why do you call them customers? Uncle Johnny said, well,
because they're spending money. And if there was only a
way where we could pull them and ask them what
songs should we do next? As a single? Where should
we go next for a concert? Which countries would like
to see us? He basically invented the Internet underneath our
dining table, but it would be forty years before the
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technology was there to support it.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yes, yes, interesting, interesting, So you came up with this
idea and you then and how long then did you stay?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
In now film?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We were there about three and a half years, and
Martin started getting a lot of jingles and voiceover work.
He's born in born and bred in Germany, so he's
completely bilingual. His native language is German, and so he
was flying back and forth to La a Lot and
he's like, oh dude, I love this place and I'm like,
all right, well, you know we can, we can give
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it another crack, we can turn around and go back
because he had lived, you know, we were living together
in the valley in Woodland Hills when the when the
earth cracked, and so he's like, I miss La, I
want to go back, and so we did, and we
came to where we are now, in Playa del Rey,
which is near La x Yes, and we'd started the business,
so we were incorporated and we just kept going. And
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so another happenstance happened where I got my hands on
a whole bunch of domain names, including McCartney dot com,
Fleetwoodmac dot com, Donna dot com, the Pope dot com,
oh you name it. And that's a story for another day.
But I then had all of these dot coms I'd
paid fifty bucks each forum, and I went around Hollywood
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giving them away on the proviso that if I gave
you your dot com but it's still only nineteen ninety
seven April by this point, if I give you your
dot com free and clear, you agree to use our
firm to build your website, run your fanclub, help with
your merchandising, and so on and so forth. So that's
how we got a ton of those celebrity clients is
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because we made we turned them on to being the
owners of their own dot com.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And did they keep their word?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. I mean a lot of them
have faded away since the bands have broken up or whatever,
but we still have the jazz great Steve Tyrell as
the client after gosh thirty years, Edgar Winter, the rock
and roller Edgar Winter dot com, which we're in the
middle of redoing again for the umpteeth time he's been
with us, I think thirty one years. So we started
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doing this well when Mark Zuckerberg was nine.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Think about that, Think about that.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I know, yeah, sober thought we might we might know
what we're doing by.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Now right now?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And actually in all awareness party
where he is because of some of the things that
you brought to be right.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, yeah, I don't know about that, but you know,
we are nudge them along. We managed, we manage social
media for lots of client accounts to make sure they're
on brand and on message. And you know, we're about
to meet and potentially partner with a reputation crisis management
firm because some of the people we represent will go
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do stupid stuff and hack their own passwords and take
take things and drink things in the middle of the
night they shouldn't and then get on Twitter whoop.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Or drive their cars or.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Drive So yeah, sometimes you need crisis management. And then
on the other side.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Because we know a few people who could handle crisis
management in the world.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Not all get into politics, but in the in the meantime,
I just you know, I'm sixty five now and going
to rock loud rock concerts.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Been there, done that, enjoyed it. Just you know, the
high heels in the late nights are not my thing anymore.
And so my husband said, about five years ago, Martin said, well,
you love what you do, and you love kind of
managing people in their their brand and their pr what
is it you're passionate about. I said, well, I'm a foodie.
I've got the Food Network on you know, speed dial
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in the background, and so now we manage the pr
media representation, in some cases social media for a bunch
of Michelin Star Chef for James Beard, Best Chef Texas winner,
Bib Gourmand, Cheroke, Chucktaw Native Restaurant. A lot of them
are in Houston. We've got a kid up in Dallas
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who's running a five star lobster mac and cheese truck.
We're getting him TV appearances and all of that stuff.
So chefs are just like rock stars. They don't play guitars,
but they have frying pants. So it's really not that
much of a difference when you're you know, you're doing
media for people. They're not singing, but they're producing food.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
But I would guess that they probably don't even think
about doing as much self promotion as they do.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
You have to if you want to get on the
James Beard list or the you want micheon in your restaurant, wards,
your restaurant and your chef has to rise above the
noise in any given city, and Houston has twenty nine
thousand restaurants and six and six Michelin stars. So you
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have to do a lot of promotion, glad handing, good will,
charity events, invitation dinners, entertaining, you know, all of that
behind the scenes stuff, which is what we handle for
a lot of our culinary clients.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes, and I'm sure they're so glad to have you
as representing them.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, they're They're all great to work with them, and
they're so hard working. But they have that same A
kitchen has the same camaraderie as a tour bus.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
You know, it's a film crew.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
There's a film. It's very similar there. Yeah, they're all
brothers and sisters at arms, and their goal is to
you know, have a perfect show or have a perfect
service and see the fans go home happy or the
diners go home happy. It's really you know, the restaurant
business done right is show business. Yes, yeah, that's really
at that level. You know, unless you're slinging hash somewhere
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and making five grand a day and enjoying it. Good
on you.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Some of my favorite food is is you know, the
plain jaye meat and potato type stuff. But when you're
trying to put on a Michelin type experience. It's front
of house, it's back of house. It's down to you know,
folding the neckins and polishing the glasses and just everything.
The smile that greets you when you, you know, step
up to the front desk. So it's it's showbiz. It's
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what I grew up and it's really no different.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
And unfortunately diners are very fickle. Right, one bad experience,
that's it, and I can come back again.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And in the music business, there really isn't a Yelp
for bad concerts. People just go, eh, I couldn't hear,
or I had bad seats, or his voice was a
little off, or she, you know, she sang a little
flat or whatever. But they'll share that amongst themselves. They'll
whine on their own Facebook page. But the problem that
restaurants have is Yelp and Trip Advisor and you know,
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Google My Business and all of that. Fortunately, we're partnered
with a company out of Miami called fave Me, which
they manage expectations and they manage ratings and stuff for restaurants,
and they have relationships with these big companies that if
somebody's being mean and unfair in an unjustified way they
can get those those reviews to you, the bad reviews
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taken down if it's patently obvious that it's a put
up job. You know. But you know, you think about
a chef or somebody running a restaurant. They have to
deal with all of this stuff, the health department, of
the alcohol department, the slipping fall, the workers camp, let
alone buying and presenting the food and coming up with menus.
It's a rough game, man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Absolutely it is. Let's talk about your books. Oh yeah,
it was the first book. And what inspired you?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Well, I think initially it must have been those letters
from my brother with the red corrections were only used
to say good, do better. I think then I probably
had the idea at the back of my head I
wanted to be a writer. And it didn't happen until
nineteen ten years ago. Now, yeah, ten years ago, and
(33:42):
I think it's twelve years, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
And this book is called Andrew McCartney my longer wedding group,
the first eighty two point nine years.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, so I was eighty three when it actually hit
the bookshelves.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
She's nearly ninety six.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Nearly ninety six, and I'm on my ninth book. So yeah,
that was mostly about my life and you know the
things we've talked about today. And then I moved on
and of course I found by being on the internet,
I was in touch with a lot of people who
are Beatle fans and they used to write to me
and ask me things. So that started me on the
(34:18):
trend of writing things like Ticket to Ride, which is
a description of a lot of the main places where
the Beatles played and were known.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, I just I just bought The Hard Heart.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, I just know one yesterday actually too.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah. It's subtitle was a day trippers Guide to Legendary
Beatles Locations. Yeah, it covers Liverpool, London, Hamburg, New York
and LA they must see Beatlestocks. It's published by Imagining
Wonder out in New York. And as you were saying, well,
each place, each location has its own dedicated QR code,
(34:55):
which is a landing page that my husband Martin built
on McCartney dot com, which is able you know, if
people's opening hours change, or the price is change, or
if somewhere shuts down. We keep those all updated. So
it's a book that never goes out of date because
if you scan the QR code. It takes you to
the Internet to relate to the latest and greatest whatever
(35:16):
it is. So that yeah, that's that's really And.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Is that the book that has the radio in Hamburg?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, it's not. That is a book called There Are
Faces I Remember, which is also published by Imagine and Wonder,
and it comes This is just a slip box because
it weighs seven and a half pounds.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So it's a beautiful book. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
This this These are paintings by an artist by the
name of Shannon MacDonald and it's absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
They feel photographs you.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Would think they were, but all of the photographs inside
I digitally painted. So I did the artwork inside and
Shannon did the cover. And there's a QR code there
to something called Liverpool Live Radio, which you're amazing. So
every time you scan it you just get live on
air what's happening, so you can get the football results,
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the English weather, whatever music they're playing. It's for people
to brush up on their scouts accent before they go
to Liverpool.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I opened it and I scan on it and there
is it's just live radio. That's really fascinated.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Then Angie or Ruth, you told me about the story
of that, and I forgot the name of the company
so called my husband, I said, oh, you can now
listen to live radio in Holland.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yes, it's called https radio dot Garden. It's not dot com,
it's dot garden. So Radio dot Garden and it's an
app in the appen and Samsung Store, the Google Play Store,
and you can also just dial it in your browser.
And it's a combination project between Google Earth and the
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University of Hilversum in Holland, who was one of the
very first long range AM radio cities in the world.
And you used to listen to Hilverson on AM radio
back in the day in England in the nineteen thirties,
and so yeah, they just gave the radio station a
line of code and they implement it in their RSS
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feed and you can listen to It's funny when you
scroll across the globe you see all of these clusters
of dots all over Europe, and then you get further
east and further east, and the globe is North Korea
and there's like one dot inyang no no, and the
sound of things blowing up, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Pretty sad, pretty sad.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So then you and you're you're still writing correct book
coming out, we want to hear about it.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yes, I'm writing a book about well we have these too.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
This is with a little help from my stones. And
this is my cookbook that I compiled from British disappearing eighteenth,
nineteenth and early twentieth century British recipes. Again all illustrated
and researched by Moir. And the book is in black
and white to keep the cost reasonable. However, when you
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buy it, you scan the code and you get your
full color iPad kindle version, a digital version. All of
these pictures are then in color, including the Yummy Christmas book.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Well stop it.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So that's that one. And then we have another joint
book called All You Need Is Tea, and that subtitle
is Titans, Traditions, Tall Tales, Terroir and Tantalizing Treats. And
that is the complete history of tea from three hundred
and twenty BC all the way up until today, and
the story of all the tea titans like Twinings and
berries tea, and all of the history of all the
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India and Roebus from South Africa, and all of that stuff, and.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Those researching that one and then late late.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Those two are still coming up. You have another one,
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, they're all on missus McCartney's teas dot com. And
then this one that just came out literally last week
is called Words of Wisdom Twisted English and Linguistic Lunacy
for word nerds, and it includes spoonerisms, eggcorns, wellerisms, oxymorons, malapropisms,
tom swifties, pangrams, portmanteaus, idioms, contronyms, and antonyms, so it's
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it's a real nerds guide to the English language. And
inside it it's also got regional sayings from Liverpool, Manchester, rhyming, slang,
all of those things. And it's sort of written in
a very Monty pythonesque tongue in cheek sort of a way,
so it's it's a great insight into the English language,
(39:40):
but with you know, with tongue in cheek, and of course,
as ever, it has the q RCOs that take us
take you to our websites.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Of course, and then you have the limericks one also,
oh yes, that.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
We are sold out of unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh I must have bought your last copy.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Probably he possibly did. Yeah, but I have here the
writer's copy, so it's got a big great thing across it.
But that's called Missus McCartney's Liverpool Limericks and other random
Irish haikus. And it is basically the story of Liverpool,
the Fabs, all of the people from pop culture from
the sixties like Twiggy and Brian Epstein. And the whole
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book is written in Limerick format. And again I did
all of these illustrations. That's the Hollywood Bowl. There's the
whiskey of Go Go. I'm trying to get it in focus.
My camera's not doing so well. And that is the
Liverpool Limericks Book. And then Andre's working on yet another
one to be revealed, soon to be revealed.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay, well you can let us be the first ones
when you're ready to reveal it.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Okay, I will let you know. That's a promise.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Now tell us about the tea. So what inspired you?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I mean, I'm sure that you were inspired about teas
because of your living in England.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
What was the d said I need to sell tea?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Years ago? We had a party at the house here
and guests. I think it was very dumb. Yeah, I know,
it was four fourth of July. That's what I was
trying to help. And when I turned to this gentleman,
a friend of ours from Arizona, who doesn't drink. He
doesn't drink, I said, we would you like wine, beer, vodka?
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He said, no, I'd like a nice cup of tea.
And I'm sure, as you're from Liverpool, you must know
how to make tea properly. And just the light went on,
you know. We thought about it and he said, why
don't you start a tea company? So we started researching.
But it was very difficult.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Was it me about two and a half years to
find suppliers who didn't use children child no child labor
and no chemicals and fair trade and paying fair wages
and whatever. So our teas we have fourteen flavors and
they come from twenty three countries and they're blended up
in Buffalo, New York. And then we had to go
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down there, world, do you want loose tea or tea bags?
And tea bags are obviously more you know, appropriate, But
there's around once the square ones. There's tags, and there's staples,
and then there's soilon and then there's tetrahydrons people call
them pyramids, but they're actually tetrahydron, and so you know,
I had to research all the material and of course
nothing matches. It's like hot dogs and buns. So you
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buy the labels which come the little tags on the end.
They come in dozens, right in twelves. Everything else is decimal,
like the strings are in a thousand strings per bag.
But you get and then the soilon which only is
made in two companies in Japan, which is the nylon
material that doesn't melt in boiling water for the pyramid
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tetrahydron tea bags that comes in metric measurements. But the
way that the bags are all cut and the machines
that cut them here, they're all in feet and inches.
So just getting tea in a bag is like.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
All you want is a t bag. Oh my goodness,
that's what you go through.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And so then you get the insurance company who says, well,
are you going to heat seal the label to the string,
because if you use staples, you have to have a
ten million dollar insurance in case the staple goes in
somebody's cut. Yeah, so let's start a tea company.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Oh yeah, it's never easy, but we did.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, and it's our twentieth anniversary. Yeah, this year.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
The next time your friend says you must have a
cup of tea, you can say you can't imagine, you
don't even know.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
They don't even want to know.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yea, yeah, good Now we do this time of year,
we do a lot of corporate gifting because with the
way the labels are printed, we can do them in
small batches. Again, of course we have a QR code
on the back. But we just shipped a huge order
for hosting dot Com. They're giving away a thousand pouches
of tea at an upcoming conference and it says on
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the back a gift from missus McCartney's teas and from
our profits. Every year we give donations to the Lynda
McCartney Breast Cancer Research Unit in Liverpool in England.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yes, I see that, and I don't want to take
a long time, but it just want to make a
segue about I'm touched by your involvement still with Lynda
McCartney's fundraising, and she must have been a special person
to you.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
If there was one thing she taught me, she'd say,
if you haven't a great day, go outside, look up
to the sky and say thank you. If you're having
a bad day, go outside and look up to the
sky and realize how big the universe is and how
small the person is who's trying to make your day bad.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh a great story.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah, even if it's raining once day, take five minutes
for yourself. Just go outside and breathe. So even if
you're looking up into rain falling out of clouds, you're
part of something bigger. You're here for a reason, and
don't let anybody tell you you're not.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's a beautiful story.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And with all that you been through with the Beatles
and all of that, that you still remember her of
your fundraising, it must have been a really special relationship.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
She was amazing. I mean when you think about she,
you know, she landed from New York again with a
young daughter aged four. It was like, you know, history
repeating itself. Her daughter, Heather, heather Sea. Paul adopted her,
so she became Heather McCartney, just like I had become
Ruth McCartney. Yes, and she joined. She learned to sing,
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she learned to play keyboards. She had more of Paul's babies.
She started Linda McCartney's veget she turned to meatless mondays
was her thing. She turned a lot of people vegetarian.
She started the Linda McCartney frozen Foods. She continued to
be a photographer, She had exhibitions, and she was an
incredible mother and wife and touring musician. Holy moly. Yeah,
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she doesn't get enough credit.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
And I saw an interview with her and if she
originally didn't even start out as a photographer, it was
all kind of by accident how she came to p Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
She had a roommate called Lillian Roxon who was working
for Rolling Stone, and you shoved a camera in her
hand and said, I need somebody to go and photograph
the Rolling Stones tonight, and boom, there she was with
a Pentax or a Nikon I can't remember, on the
backstage pass and a backstage pass and she's like, I
better learn this fast.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
There's so many times in life when we think of
and you've been through them, as we all have, where
you think, what if I hadn't been there at that
exact moment?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
If yeah, what that?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
But if I hadn't been there?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
What if that day I was doing something else? What
if I was somewhere else?
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
What would have happened? Right, So that's a pretty amazing story.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, it's a very interesting book called what If, namely
with Beetle World and what if this happened? Happened? What
if Fallen John had not met on the day. Yes,
and it's very interesting by David Bedford. That's on Amazon
dot com. There you are, David, I gave you book
a plug.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
And now let me ask you about the wine so
I can understand the tea.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Where at what point did you start selling wine?
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Well, that's in limbo at the moment. We're trying to
find a new distribution avenue. It's very difficult. Again, you
think tea is difficult, wine and alcohol across state lines
and every administration has their own new rules depending upon
whether that administration in vibes or not, and so trying
to shit. The wines are incredible. They're fruit and dessert wines.
So we have Mahishi Pachabbey Road Apple. They're only eight
(47:35):
percent and if you're in Texas or Louisiana you can
buy them, no problem. But we're trying to redo our
distribution at the moment simply because and your friend Patrick
will know about all of this is simply because of
you know, state shipping rules and winery rules and so
on and so forth. But missus McCartney's wines dot com
is still there, so people can go check it out
(47:55):
and join the mailing list and we'll bust out an
email when we're wantimistic ready to rock again. Yeah, they
make great cocktail mixes, so we have there or with
afternoon tea, so they're like a sherry or a port.
We have BlackBerry, blueberry, peach apple, and I forget strawberry, strawberry.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Fie of course, strawberry fields.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, a little.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Drop in a prosecco or you know, in place of
apparel or campire you something like that.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
So, of course our viewers and our listeners are going
to ask what's next, and especially Angie, doctor Angie McCartney,
to be sure we get that in there, that what
is next for you? It seems your energy is unless
both of you have ideas that never stop, which I
love and.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Can certainly relate to.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
And Ruth, I'm so fascinated by both of you that
you see something in Okay, what can I do with that?
And so I'll just go to the library and get
the twelve books that they have and I will create
this and oh, by the way, dot com so I'll
just buy everybody's names and then I'll go knock on
their doors.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
So what's now, Do you know what's next?
Speaker 4 (49:02):
No, I don't. Actually, I'm trying to find a way
for peeven to encourage people to be kind to each other,
to listen to each other, to listen to the other side,
even if you think it's rubbish, just listen, you know.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, I just well, for on the book side, she's again,
I was saying, she's writing, researching and interviewing people. Of
course every week on Facebook live on doctor Angie McCartney's page,
and then later on YouTube. We have te flicks Tuesdays.
It's like Netflix, but it's teef Flix. We have some
fascinating guests, a lot of beatle authors. We like to
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promote their books and keep that sort of family of
you know, old hippies alive around the world. And yeah,
I know, I'm just I'm looking forward to continuing to
work with not just existing clients, but you know, helping
young restaurateurs and young chefs really get the recognition they
deserve for all the hard work they do. You know,
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feeding us and making us happy.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Of all the things that you have done, what do
you want to be remembered for.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
You?
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Mother? One? Oh, I'm going all stoppy. Now I'm going
to stop sniffing and crying.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, I don't you know, I honestly don't know. Just
if if there's a headstone anywhere just she was kind.
I just try to be kind to people. When I
go to the supermarket. If I see somebody who is
not particularly prepossessing, but they've made an effort, I'll say, Wow,
that is a great color on you, or look at
your nails, aren't you gorgeous? Or just just compliment somebody
(50:39):
who looks like they need it. I do it every
single day. That makes me feel.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Great because you never know what's going on in their life. No, no, absolutely,
you never know. And you've heard you say, I've read
that any day above ground is a bonus, right it is.
And so you're you're you, you have a You've been
a great mother, obviously, you know you've You've allowed Ruth
(51:05):
and welcomed the opportunity for her to become all the
things that she is. You I'm sure there were times
when you sheltered her in her young life as well
as allowed her to be in the middle of all
this excitement.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
There were also times when I was in my pop
Russian pop star phase touring across Russia, Lithuania at the
Armenia Siberia whatever, that she came in the helicopter with
me and drank vodka for breakfast. So you know, has
always woolf No.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And by the way, I saw the video about there's
a six minute video about young on YouTube that I
saw that incorporated some of that, which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
So that was.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
A fun phase going being a pop star in a
country where you can come out of Russia and go
home and nobody recognizes you and you don't get bothered
at the supermarket, but you know, a thousand miles away,
you get off the plane in Moscow and your mob.
It was like living for two different people. It was bizarre.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
It was great first in Moscow. So all these camera
crews at the airport thought, I wonder if Michael Jackson's
on display.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yeah, I was looking around the arrivals Hale from Madonna.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
But they've been running have one and only video on
all nine time zones. Yeah, before we get amazing and
McCartney is coming.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah, McCarty.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
It was the other one.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
The billboards they put up McCartney's coming to Moscow. They
didn't tell him it was this one.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
This one. Well, they should have. They should have. They
should have, they should have.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And Ruth, I've heard you say, should never be afraid
to number one pivot, which certainly the two of you
have done multiple times. You should never be afraid to
reach for the stars, which you also have done multiple Yeah.
And number three, never be afraid to get anybody in
the world on the phone.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Is that still the Pope?
Speaker 3 (52:55):
It could be the Pope, It could be. Yeah. I
used to I used to take challenges. It's it's not
so easy now nowadays with cell phones. But if you've
got something you really want to say to somebody in
a position of power, I mean, and what I mean
the metaphor of never be afraid to get anybody in
the world on the phone is never be afraid to
speak truth to power. If it's something you're passionate about,
find a way to get your message to the game changes.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Great message, great message, ladies. Thank you so much. This
has been a delight and honor a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
We're an honor.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Oh I we loved it.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Oh you're amazing and inspiring and energetic and all of
those things, all the things that we all would love
to take away from.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
This, and much about yourself, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Your spirit.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Thank you for being our guest today and celcal with
val We do have another radio show that's Always Ageless
with Valerie V which airs on the same station, and
we hope that you'll be a guest on that show
as well. Thank you very much, and and God bless
you both and wishing you much health. And I'm in
line for your next books and for some corporate to
(54:10):
you as well.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Excellent jolly good well hey hashtag go power.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
God bless
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