017: 7x07, A Woman's Place Is in the War Effort!

News from the homefront as our favorite time-traveling dames join the Riveting Rosies and pitch in on the war effort. Plus, bracelet-based retirement planning, and we reveal the episode for our second Bingo Special!

CARDS TO SAVE THE TIMELINE
Scenarios:
• Always remember, the Waverider’s escape pod is disguised as ____.
• The best way to combat generational racism during time travel is to ____.
• To fix Gwynn’s time machine we’ll need 18 stablizers and a good ____.
• Good guy Bishop would really appreciate some ice water with a pinch of ___ for electrolytes.
• Is it just me, or does Gwynn kind of look like ___?
Solutions/People:
• Ejector seat toilet.
• Move into a bracelet.
• Learn Taarof and impress cranky, long-dead uncles.
• 600 gsm Egyptian cotton.
• A Speak and Spell.
• Ignore the frozen man in the corner.
• Screw up history (for the better).

BINGO
• Political Run-in
• Two Zaris

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Why is it that their hair alwayslooks amazing? Whenever they go like travel
and time, they always look incredible, And it's I'm jealous. Thankly I
don't look great now. Oh theyshould see me in my ridiculous shirt at
the moment. But yeah, atleast like when they've got the wave rider,
you can kind of like, youknow, Gideon did their quaff or
something like that. Here, it'slike they took their time at the mansion

(00:22):
that morning, where they seem notto have many supplies in general. Yeah,
they all have time appropriate clothing.Yeah, from where I don't know,
they stole overall, that's what happened. I get. I like,
I truly was of the understanding thatJohn Constantina only had trench coats and his
house, Like, where did allthese beautiful dresses come from? Hello,

(00:58):
and welcome to always hold onto DC'sLegends of Tomorrow. Today we're in season
seven, Season seven. Here weare. I am one of your co
captains, Shannis and the other oneMatt true X, and we both have
a lap full of cat right now. So if you have some like MPR
energy, that's that's why. Yeah, we're on season seven. It's an

(01:19):
interesting season we'll talk about that ina second, but today we're doing season
seven, episode seven, Nicelow sevensthe Woman's places in the war efforts exclamation
mark, exclamation mark. Yeah,and the mid season finale, which I
forgot but yeah, an overall funepisode, but we'll get into it.
Aired November twenty one, twenty twentyone, Written by Morgan Faust and Leah

(01:42):
Pulio is how I'm thinking, Pulio. That's probably better directed by Glenn Winter.
Ratings tough year. Yeah, everything'sunder a million this season, which
I believe started in the previous season, but this gets an even point five
million people to watch it, fivethousand people. We were among them.

(02:04):
So our team Rundown is really funkythis season. It's bizarre. It's very
bizarre. So I've never liked puttingthe Tassia together. I've never had to
delete more people than so we haveall of them not on the wave Rider
because the wave Rider got blowed up. Yeah, Sarah Nate Briefly, Zari
one point majority, Ava, Garybed Astra Spooner, the human Gideon,

(02:31):
and a very new character with avery familiar face. Gwen Davies looks a
lot like Young Stein to me.Yeah, it's it's really more like ray
ah. Yeah, that's fair.And to recap this season, the Legends
are marooned in time, no waverider, no AI, and no sorcerer
to help them out, but theydo have an all knowing real life Gideon

(02:53):
as mentioned, which is new anddifferent. After tracking down the father of
time travel, Gwin Day, theyare finally able to travel in time,
but they don't have much control overthe whole where and when situation. Plus
there's an evil wave rider hunting themdown and they don't know what's going on
with that. And now to thereal thing that I need you to recap
for me, could you explain wherewe're at with this bishop, which I'd

(03:15):
like to refer to as toilet Bishop, going toilet Bishop. Alright, toilet
Bishop. Um, all right,So last season they did this whole thing
where like the the evil bishop washunting them, Yes and him, I'm
solid on now we've done a coupleof season six episodes. I'm good.
So so they went and got likeearly bishop. So this bishop is from

(03:38):
before, like from right after heinvented the avas, but before he started
cloning himself. Okay, so he'slike twenty twenty one something one twenty something
twenty two twenty something out. Ohokay, but an original and like seemingly
Sanish version. He's og Bishop,so he's like he's still inventor Bishop sum

(04:01):
rather than clone. Want to makean army kind of situation. Uh,
So they grabbed him to do somethingand he found out back then that he's
an evil person, and then theywiped his memory and plopped him back where
he was. Okay, but beforethat happened, he I believe stole a
piece of the wave Rider that waslike that had busted up, like the

(04:23):
CPU or something like, this littlepiece that housed the AI. So in
his little workshop with his original AVA, he rebooted it back to factory settings,
so he had factory settings Gideon andnot Gideon has grown to love the
you know, the legends. Sure, so this is the one that all
she wants to do is like herprime directive, which is to protect the

(04:45):
timeline by any means necessary. Andshe's the Gideon we see in the little
like how I situation. Yeah right, okay, So that's that's Bishop.
So this is uh, this isoriginal Bishop without the memory of what they
did to him last season, butwith like a Gideon, um a rebooted
Gideon, and he had built hisown wave rider, right, and then

(05:08):
he attacked the real wave rider likeour wave rider. He blew that up.
And then at some point his Gideonturned on him and he had to
evacuate through the toilet and here weare, Yes, basically like he thought
it, we shouldn't do that,and the like the og Gideon was like,
no, we're this is what wehave to do. Timeline there,

(05:29):
protect the timeline because these people areyeah yeah, which again she has a
point here and there, you know, I mean they are breaking the timeline,
like they are changing things throughout history. Like so she's also the reason
why in previous episodes in season seventhere were robot versions of like Hoover and
right, She's she's the one responsiblefor all evil robots in this season.

(05:51):
Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, because I'm just there to
protect the timeline. That's it.I'm caught up. Guests who hasn't rewatched
much of season seven, So whatdo you think about Season seven? I
like it overall, like I reallylike. I feel like it really gets
going honestly, towards the end whenwe get to like the fixed point stuff.
I think is rad that episode andthen the episode afterwards, you know,

(06:15):
like all the Yabarthon stuff Like Ithink that's really really cool and a
nice way to kind of tie usback to the arrow Verse and what's going
on without getting too in the weedswith stuff. I just I kind of
miss the aesthetics of the show.Like I just spent way too long and
way too much money building my littlewave Rider model and stuff like, you
know, like it's a superhero showto me, so I miss I missed

(06:39):
that stuff. When like, um, Gary asked Nate for his steel helmet
in this episode and he says he'llgive it to him, I'm like,
this is an empty gift like thatblew the fuck up, dude, you
know, Like I don't know,like it's all kind of gone. I
would have liked to have seen themget the wave Rider back at some point,
and I feel like going forward,I feel like Phil Klemmer had said
like we'll probably stay off the waveRider or more, and I'm like,

(07:00):
well, I'm gonna miss that then, you know, like or I would
have I don't know, what,do you think I really liked this season?
Um, I'm not so attached tothe wave Writer as you are,
so that that I think helped.Like, I don't I don't mind them
not being on the wave Writer.I liked changing it up a bit,
you know, they were trying somethingnew without like getting too far away from
the people that we loved. Um. You know, I do miss some

(07:23):
of the randomness of previous seasons.It's less that, although once they start
jumping around in time then it's alittle bit that, sure, but it
takes a while to get to there. It does take all and they only
jump randomly twice, um, becausethey jump to Chernobyl originally, and then
they jump here, and then theyget the thing that let's get in UM

(07:46):
navigate for them. And then afterthis it's like all the stuff with the
um you know, the the robotversions of the legends and then um the
fixed points stuff. Yeah, therereally isn't that much. UM. What
I do love about this season isgetting Amy Louise Premberton, like just her
actual physical self with the cast totally. I like having the human getting there.

(08:07):
I think she's very fun and Ilike all that stuff. I'm not
sure how I feel about her andGary, but um, that's whatever.
But yeah, I'm offensive enough tomeet that. I don't really have a
strong opinion either way, to behonest, I was just kind of like,
okay, that seems like like anodd thing to just have them immediately
do but whatever, Gary deserves something, I guess. But I I like

(08:28):
it. I don't. I don'thate it. It did take me a
little bit to warm up to it, though, Yeah, okay, because
at first it was like it wasvery jarring to go from jumping around in
time too now they're stranded in thetwenties in the first couple episodes. Yeah,
yeah, Um, I I wantto preface too, where it's not
like this is the season I don'tlike, Like I enjoyed it watching it
all the way through, looking backat it, and I'm like, oh,

(08:50):
this is why it's probably the leastrewatched for me. Where it's like
it's it's a little more ums herealized story. It's a little harder for
me to jump in, and Imiss kind of the randomness, like you're
saying of like, you know what, let's watch the I don't know,
the Apollo eleven episode, let's watchthe whatever, you know, the kind

(09:11):
of yeah, the genre changes thatthey got to do in the heyday when
they when they have a wave riderand they can go fucking anywhere. Yeah,
it's definitely more serialized. I don'tknow some of the reasoning for it,
for this storyline, but my guessis like it's a little bit a
few things, like one trying toget those writings up and being like,

(09:31):
all right, people really like serializedstorytelling, so let's try that and see
what happens. Sure, I'll stillbeing legends. But also I feel like
this season both accepts that they mightnot get renewed, but also like tries
not to think about it, likefighting tooth and nail. Yeah, Like,
so this season to me feels likeall of this stuff would either both

(09:52):
make more sense and feel more naturalif there was another season after it,
if it wasn't the last season.Yes, but because it's the last season,
it's very jarringly like this is thelast season and it's weird, Whereas
if they've gotten another season. Yeah. So I don't hate. No,
I don't either, but I doagree with you, like I wish it

(10:13):
wasn't the Swan song um for thisseries, Like, it just feels very
different, especially even just from theprevious season to hear. Obviously it's very
different from where we started in seasonone, but we're all happy about that,
like that, no one's complaining there. Um. But anyway, in
this episode we're doing we're rosying andwe're riveting here like it' it is.

(10:37):
It is fun. Um. Wewe you know, starting the time machine's
broken and we're stranded and we're runningfrom the military and we've got a bishop
that everybody hates. Some blah blahblah thoughts on the mcguffin, Like because
they blow up the wave Rider,they you know, x out their main
set for most of this season,but the other standing set that they have

(11:01):
is High Castle and there they holdon to it with this key you know
mcguffin that they set up with Johnat the end of season six. Like,
what are your thoughts here as likeHighcastle being this hideout and magically achievable
blah blah blah. I think itworks to give them like to still be
able to split the team up,because that's one of the things, like
they still need to be able tosplit the team up and have A and

(11:22):
B stories because if you have tocover the entire teams. Yeah, that's
gonna be nightmarish on on filming.But so they're able to do these A
and B stories just break up thepeople in the plot. Um, But
they wouldn't be able to do thatwithout it. I also like, um
one of my favorite bits is thespeakeasy episode earlier earlier in the season.

(11:43):
Yeah, and the way they makeuse of um high Castle, where like
they use it as their speakeasy.Oh we forgot about that. Yeah,
and it's part partly because the fridgemakes it endless whiskey, um, which
I thought was funny. But I'llso, where are they getting the food?
Like, these are all the questions. It does not make endless pasta,
which we have to get into atsome point. Yes, um,

(12:07):
it also doesn't make endless sandwiches forall the rosies. But um. The
one thing that I think of everytime I'm watching one of these episodes is
how are they finding so many doorswith that keyhole? Yeah? I like
they have locks on the on theouthouse apparently like key locks. Like I
get having to like it from theinside obviously, but like, yeah,

(12:28):
I had the same thought too,where I guess it's just like a skeleton
key type key situation. Yeah,and I'm I don't profess to be a
locksmith, but like, it wouldn'thappen with a modern door, right,
Like, you're right, Like it'sgot to be an old timy door.
I'm wondering if like it magics sothat every door has a keyhole that fits
the key maybe or he adapts toit or whatever. Yeah, are you

(12:52):
picturing a tim Allen Santa clause wherelike the radiator becomes yeah, fireplace for
a boat. Yes, that's whatI'm That's what I'm Okay, I wasn't
exactly what I was thinking, butthat, yes, that is what I'm
sure to help you. There yougo. The long and short of it
is, we're on the run.We've got a broken time machine. We
need to repair it. But whatluck? We've got a broken time machine

(13:13):
because it got hit with a toiletand also a bishop. Yes, but
what luck? We're right by afactory that's making World War two planes.
Yep, so that do you rememberwhat year this was? Um, well,
I'm seeing an A V Club thingthat says Astro takes control of the
means of production in nineteen forty five. Doesn't make any sense, right,

(13:37):
I don't know what to tell you. I would have said that it was
forty one or forty three, butwe're vaguely in the forties, I guess,
so, yes, they're they're convenientlyright by a factory. But I
do like that Sarah mentions like,hey, you know, sometimes we get
lucky. Yeah, it is athing for me, where like this episode
is very silly. This whole seasonis very silly. But the sillier the
show gets for me, the moreI lose in just in some parts,

(14:01):
but the more I love Sarah,Like like when as she gets to dig
in and again it's not character assassination, it's just the fun way they've evolved
this character. But where she youknow, kind of treats it a little
bit lighter because she's seen the heavystuff and she's like, yeah, well
there we are. Like I justlove that we also get to have like
a papola. I love Lucy inthis episode, Like it's all it's very

(14:24):
light, even though we're dealing withrace stuff eventually, Like I think the
tone here works really well. Itmanages to be light about sort of the
of the race stuff later too,because like it's just it's a very light
show and it manages to like havehumor and heart and all that and all
these places. But yeah, oneof the things that I like about about
Sarah is that as the show goeson, she's more and more like,

(14:46):
all right, it's Tuesday, Likeyeah exactly. Yeah, Like it's more
like this is normal. Keep going, our lives will never make sense again,
so I just ride this out.Yeah, yeah exactly. Plus you're
talking heart humor there, like theother part of that formula from the Flash
a Spectacle. And for me,this little tiny show that's that's on its
last legs at the time is pullingoff production values like no other I think

(15:11):
just from the outside. This isthe Hall of Justice hangar that they've used
in some of the crossovers. Butlike they get this giant plane in there,
they disassemble half of it, Likethis must be a rent because there's
no way they're building this giant plane. But like the fact that they can

(15:33):
do that, that they pull offthe whole base thing itself. They pull
out this big fight at the end, like all of it is so impressive.
To me. There doesn't feel likeit doesn't feel like a show that
is straining against its budget. Itfeels like a show that's pulling off a
miracle when we know it was probablystraining against its budget. Yeah, most
likely. I mean part of meis like, oh, there's a lot

(15:56):
of the stuff that you could probablydo, you know, relatively inexpensively.
You're grabbing a location, probably alocation that, like you said, it's
if it's the Star Labs Hall ofJustice thing, maybe that's what it was
before it was Star Labs, itwas a plant that was making and whatever
it is. Um, but youknow there's so it's like, you know,

(16:17):
it's a location. So they probablyI don't know how much they would
have to spend for locations. Youknow, maybe they're being they're able to
do this and expensively. But ifyou think about like the other episodes this
season, no way here's like theylike you said, they can't really use
their standing sets, right, Um, So yeah, I do wonder about
that, like what was the whatwas going on on the production side,
and you know how stressed were theytrying to make ends beat? Yeah,

(16:37):
and like truly like imagine having twoweeks of pre production, you know,
generously to be like can you finda giant World War two bomber that we
can get in Canada, that wecan get to this hangar and that we
can like partly disassemble and reassemble throughoutthis episode. Like oh, and also
all of our actresses have to siton their wing. I imagine they couldn't

(17:02):
find it given the amount of WorldWar two production that happens, I guess,
but yeah, I don't know.I don't know what the logistics like
that would be. I don't know. It all felt really impressive to me.
It felt like something that, likeanymore would be a CG special And
we never really got too close tothe plane. But but they did it
like it's all practical for the mostpart, as far as I could tell,

(17:23):
it's impressive as hell, very much. So I like calling this show
out when when they're still they're they'repulling it off. But anyway, this
is all it is all slow rollingto get the discussion of sexism and racism
here in the show, which somehow, once again it pulls off pretty damn
well. They do it so well, they really do, like it's it's

(17:44):
it's a light touch, you know. It reminds me of the Civil War
episode with Jack's like helping the slavesget freed and whatever. Where it's just
like, how dare this dumb acidineshow say something coaching about? This isn't
really interesting something interesting, like theyhave a little moral. You know,
it works out, it works outreally really well. It's not just a
ridiculous show. Like it's ridiculous andit's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, and

(18:10):
to let we don't we make apoint of it, certainly without dwelling on
it. But obviously Astro and Spoonerknow very quickly what's going on and why
they're in janitorial and whatnot. Umand and you know, have have their
talks with the lead editorial lady throughout. She had a name. What is

(18:30):
her name? I had to lookit up. Is she a real person?
No, she has a name though. Her name is Gladys Um.
Yeah. I don't know that hername is really mentioned in this show.
No, I don't remember that comingup. All my notes are like head
janitor lady. Yeah. I lookedit up because I was like, she's
got to have a name other thanhead janitor lady. Um. But yeah
it's Gladys Okay. So yeah,they have this lovely chat with her.

(18:55):
Yeah throughout and also just like Ilove Sarah not realizing what's happening right away,
And once she sees them Astra andSpooner like in the janitorial staff,
and like instantly understands what's happening,is willing to be like we can throw
this plan the fuck away and figuresomething out. Like you guys don't have
to go through this. They like, no, no, no, we'll

(19:15):
stick through it. But I justlike, you know, this team has
faced this before. It's funny tome that sometimes we travel back in time
but we don't really deal with it, you know, like one of the
Jackson Amaya at the party and it'sall totally fine and whatever, but then
sometimes we make a point of it. One of the things that I find
interesting about this is that like theycould have made the story like because they

(19:37):
are iman of color, they arebasically ignored, so they are able to
steal stuff from the floor much easierthan if they were someone who people would
pay attention to. They could havejust made it that like, well,
I guess it comes in handy whenyou're trying to do something like this.
But instead what they do is theyuse it to highlight like lesser and known
parts of history. They use itto maical like a point about like justice

(20:00):
and all this stuff, and alsoto give like Astra a nice showcase.
Yeah, a lot of the thingsI want to talk about is the black
rosies. Yes, please, blackrosies were a real thing. There were
half a million black women who workedalongside white women in the war effort.
But surprised they've been forgotten by alot of people because like they didn't people
didn't care. Yeah, white peoplerock, right, Yeah, most businesses

(20:23):
back then still refuse to hire blackworkers even though they needed them, until
President Roosevelt signed an executive order innineteen forty one that forced integration. Okay,
so this is the thing really good. I don't entirely know where this
episode takes place or when this episodetakes place. I can't remember if there
was like a thing on it thatsaid what year, because I was confused
by the two years later thing atthe end, right, maybe presumably by

(20:47):
your timeline this is nineteen thirty nine, but also like we weren't really in
the war, right, I feellike this is actually like forty one,
forty three. It's possible that I'mjust missing something that like there was some
other it wasn't an executive order.Maybe it was an active Congress. I
just couldn't find it, but Ididn't look too hard. So any history
nerds who listen should let us know, please. Yeah. But one of

(21:08):
the things is like I adore thestoryline because it sort of highlights this thing
that I hate learning about but Ido love learning about at the same time,
which is the sort of like resiliencyof black women in history. This
idea that like multiple times in historythey were told like, well, you're
not allowed to do something, andlike, I feel like most of us

(21:30):
would be like, well, Iguess I'll have to go find something else
to do, and instead they're like, no, I'm just going to teach
myself because you won't teach me.Yeah. That whole idea of them having,
you know, the Black Janitor isbasically having their own kind of workshop
where there's fixing stuff up and learningthings themselves too, felt very real to
me. Yeah exactly. And Idon't know, have you seen Hidden Figures

(21:52):
or have you read the book?No, I haven't said. It's the
women that helps us get to themoon, right, Yeah, helped us
get into space in general. Uh, John Glenn wouldn't go up if um
if she didn't do the calculations.Wow for him. But one of the
things that they point out is that, you know, their black women were
allowed to work in the space program, but they weren't allowed to work like

(22:12):
in the main building, um,and do like important stuff. So one
of them, Octavia Spencer's character,Dorothy Vaughn, real woman, um,
teaches herself how to code on thecomputers like at night. Like she just
teaches herself how to do it becauseno one's gonna let her learn. And
because of that, she actually becamea very famous person in the world of

(22:33):
computer science because she knew how todo these things that other people hadn't learned
yet. Wow. So like thisis like it's like I hate that they
had to teach themselves, and Ilove that at least something came of it,
you know. But but the thatthen this woman excelled at it to
a point where she becomes like topof the field. Like that's exactly that,
Like they didn't, you know,Captain John's the same thing. Um,

(22:56):
you know. So it's it's Ihate learning about that stuff, but
I also love learning about the waysthat, Like I don't like learning about
racism, I'll do it though it'simportant to learn. But I do like
learning about the ways that like peoplehave you know, said, you know,
fuck often. Yeah, I'll justdo it anyway. It's interesting.
I have a question about this,but it is. It is interesting to
me where it's just like we're bothfrom the Northeast. We don't we don't

(23:18):
ignore things like the Civil War orwhatever. In well we were on the
right side of that, so it'sright, but in history class, but
we still like I had to learnabout, you know, the bombing basically
of Black Wall Street from the fuckingWatchman show. You know, so many,
so much of this that is justcompletely lost. Yeah, so many
white people myself included, had tolearn about. You know, I had

(23:41):
to learn about the Tulsa massacre throughwith the Watchman. I learned about the
partition in India and Pakistan from MissMarvel. From Miss Marvel. Yeah,
yeah, Like there are so manyhistorical things that I learned about because someone
put it in a TV show,because because someone a goddamn superhero show,
and I had to be there withWikipedia open going like was this it?
Oh? Oh a lot of peopledied? Yeah, yeah exactly, So

(24:03):
like having like I wish we learnedabout more of this stuff in school.
Um, and unfortunately some people arelearning less of it. But there's so
much more. Like there are otherexamples I'm sure of things that I didn't
know about until I was way tooold. But we won't know about it
until like she Hulks season five whenthey when they bring it up. Anyway,
m my question about this was,um, obviously, like the big

(24:26):
thing about this is integration and whatnot. And in this particular factory, the
black women were not allowed to belike a part of the floor at all.
They were just janitorial staff. Werethey're like black only factories where women
we're working before integration. Like whatI wonder what the catalyst was to be
like, no, these women areactually killing this. We should like bring

(24:47):
them into the lines for our youknow, quote unquote white factories too.
Again, this is something that ifthere are any big history buffs listening,
they should let us know the realanswer. I can tell you my very
vague answer that I got from theinner. I'm trying to figure this out.
UM, but I as from whatI understand, I don't think there
were, um, like black onlyfactories. I think there might have been.

(25:08):
I don't know, UM, butI know that the impetus for Roosevelt
signing the executive order was a coupleof activists went to him and explained the
hiring discrimination that was going on becausehe didn't want that, Like he wanted
everybody just to hire whoever needed ajob, give them a job, you
know, that whole thing. Butthat wasn't happening. And these activists came

(25:30):
and told him, and he signedan executive order to force integration because people
weren't just doing it. They wouldrather, you know, hire white men
and women to work on the floorrum rather than black men and women there.
This is another thing that comes upa little bit in UM A League
of their Own, another TV showwhere you know that's in the forties and
it's about, you know, howblack women were allowed to play in the
All American Girls baseball League. UM. But there's also a factory there that's

(25:53):
I think it's a majority black menwho worked there, and you know,
it's a it's an interesting subject,but I unfortunately don't know enough about it
to give you a definitive answer.But hopefully someone else who's listening can,
Hey, thanks for doing a diveon this at all. Well, I
want us to know about it becausem Olivia Swan, who plays Astra,
posted about it back when it aired. She posted a photo of them like

(26:18):
on set and then was talking aboutlike, you know, I'm really glad
that we were able to tell thestory of the Black Rosies that not enough
people know about and so cool,cool, thank you for the history corner
here. You're welcome, History corner. History corner almost over. I have
one more question for you. Sure, so part of this season, but
specifically like the Chernobyl and then thisepisode is about them changing major events in

(26:38):
history to make it better. Yeah. So in the Chernobil episode, they
you know, they try to evacuateas many people as possible before the reactor
goes critical because the reaction going criticalthey couldn't change, but maybe they could
save people, right because they dolet the reactor go right, Yes,
I mean they have no choice.I forgot the reactor going critical is a
fixed point. But the um butcan they save people? And they do?

(27:03):
When I believe that that leads toother things down the line. I
believe in the next episode there's awhole thing where like Sarah has to kill
someone who would survived the Chernobyl explosionthe robot Sarah. Yeah. So in
then in this case, they forcethe integration of this factory and they bring
in elanor Roosevelt as we'll talk later. Um. And then they sort of

(27:26):
like get this force integration thing earlierthan they did in the original timeline.
So maybe that helps civil rights.Um. So it's like, what do
you think about this idea of likeyou go back in time. You're not
changing history, but you are changingbits of history to make the world a
little better. You're speeding it upa little bit. Um. Yeah.
Oh man, Like for a showlike this, I'm fine with it.

(27:52):
My inner rip is coming out thoughwhere I'm like butterfly affected this, you
know, like I I want gettingin to do some calculations how this,
how this will go down? Youknow, you don't want to create your
own flashpoint. Yeah. No,And I don't want like fucking well now
we had a January sixth earlier becauseof all this eventually and it went well,
you know, like that type ofbullshit, because there's especially with the

(28:15):
race stuff, it's always going tobe one step forward and two violent steps
back, you know, like theyI, oh that's interesting. Yeah,
I think it's a fun work aroundnarratively for this show where it's like we're
not we're not messing anything up necessarily, We're just kind of polishing the edges

(28:36):
of it. Yeah, you know, Yeah, I for this dumb time
travel show. I think it worksfine. Yeah, I kind of agree
with them. I think that ifI were had traveled back to the past,
I'd have a really hard time notscrewing with like these major historical events
in a little like a few ways. Logically, I know that I can't
stop World War One, or Iknow that I can't stop the Chernobyl Reactor

(28:59):
meltdown, Like what are we gonnado kill Proteca Ton when he's just a
kid? You know? Exactly?Like what I do know is enough of
you know, is like I knowthat if I were in a situation where
it's basically the Star City twenty fortysix thing right right, it's the fact
that like, you know, thisis not your like this is a this
is a future, this is notreally happening, This isn't real for you.

(29:21):
It's like, yeah, but I'mhere, yes, so it is
real. Like these are actual peopleright now. Um, there is no
future or past. They don't notexist just because it's not my time.
So I think that if I werein you know, in Chernobyl at that
time, I would probably be like, yep, I think that we should
try to evacuate as many people aspossible. Hey, everybody, we're doing
a field day today. Actually,like, way the funk over here,

(29:42):
everybody don't even Yeah, yeah,it'll be great. Um, yeah,
I don't know. I would quicklybecome a legend in so far as like
kind of ignoring time travel rules likeI'm I'm I'm sure of it when you're
asking me, Like holistically, there'sit's like like this could set up a

(30:02):
bunch of bullshit in the future.But there is also the part of me
frankly that's just a little more chaoticand my worldview with that, you know,
if nothing we do matters, thenall that matters is what we do.
So yeah, you can't be youcan't ignore these injustices when you're in
the middle of it, you know. Yeah, from a logical perspective,
I understand protecting the timeline. Iunderstand not wanting to completely scurrup everything and

(30:23):
make yourself not exist, you know. But from a human perspective, I
get what they're doing right, doyour best to help the little guy.
I think in those situations is what'swhat's what's better. And really, if
they didn't have the robo Legends afterthem here, like, they might have
gotten away with this two years earlierthing. You know, if this was

(30:45):
a regular season of the show,right, and they didn't have the Hull
get in on the robo Legends chasingthem down. Yeah, exactly. So
the big thing in this episode isthe fact that they do take over this
factory because Astra like trying to,you know, force a work order that
will allow them to use them theinjector mold or whatever to make the part

(31:07):
make they're eighteen parts of the timemachine whatever that we need to get out
of her. Um. So thereshe's trying to sign a work order and
then the manager of the plant walksin and she freezes him. One of
the things I think is funny isthat she's still using the same spell to
get them a work order. It'sstill permuto permuto. Yeah, it's still
the same spell she uses it earlierin the season two. Um. But

(31:30):
also I wanted to point out somethingabout this plant manager that I think is
funny. Please, um so mostpeople, if they are watching cable TV,
will recognize him as one of theactors on Monk. M oh Ian's
never a Monk. Yeah I wasfor a bit, but um so,
yeah, he's like the lieutenant orsomething on Monk. But in the real

(31:51):
world he is also Jess McCallan akaAva Sharpe's ex husband X as of the
filming of this episode, or theylike a couple of years before the filming
of this episode. Interesting, Okay, cool, you know what that means.
They're both cool people, right,Like they can work together. It's

(32:12):
not a big deal. Yep,that's nice. I just thought that was
funny because I knew that they hadbroken up, um like a couple of
seasons ago. Like I knew thata couple of seasons ago, and then
this episode aired and I was like, wait a minute, holy shit,
it's you. Yeah that guy.Anyways, friend, what are you doing
here? So that happens. That'scool because she does like get up close
to him at one point too,when he's frozen, she like gets right

(32:36):
up on his face. Yeah,it's not like it's a situation where it's
like, yeah, he's here,but they're not. We kept him separate,
don't worry, you know, likethey they're in there. Yeah,
yeah, they're in scenes together.That's fun. I would do scene with
my like I'm close with my acts. Like that's not an issue for me.
It's just nice when you when yousee it in other people. Yeah,
it is very funny. And I'mlike weirdly obsessed with stuff like that.

(32:58):
I don't know why. Oh no, that's fasting. Please come on
anyway? So, um, whywhy is John Tenney nut in season four
of those in Clarks like these theseare the things I'll never know they were
still married. They've just recast himbetween the southing Like what the fuck happened
anyway? Using ass like the mainsorcerer now on the show. Yes,
and it's still kind of an apprentice. I was gonna say she's doing the

(33:21):
Mickey thing, but like sometimes she'ssucking up, like she doesn't know kind
of the power she has, Likeshe accidentally freezes that she pulls a piper
in the Charmed Pilot, she accidentallyfreezes the guy. Um just like literally
just the intention and power comes outof her hand and it happens, and
now we kind of have to dealwith that. Like he surprises her and

(33:43):
then he's frozen. Yes, butthe key takeaway here is, well,
now the Legends can take over thefactory, and Astra kind of like runs
it as him, mister Staples.I think, yeah, she runs it
as Staples. They opened up thesuggestions box and they start like, you
know, doing good workplace things.They convert the men's bathroom to a women's

(34:07):
bathroom so the women don't have towalk out to the outhouses. Uh they
do. They do breaks and andand coffee carts and stuff. Ultimately too,
um, I love it. It'slike a fun goofy montage of her,
you know, approving all the things, and then we get to these
step too far where she approves integration. Yeah, and previously like this nice

(34:30):
white lady that hired us all,and it's just like that's women got to
stick together. Is walking off withthe other white guys, and it's like,
oh, right, white people alwayssuck, you know this. Yeah,
le, let's not forget the mainrule of history here. Um,
but I think that moment um.There's this stuff with Gladys later too that

(34:55):
yeah, the mysteriously named Gladys thatworks too, But like that moment is
the real like gut punch of theepisode of like, oh and this lady
turned on us instantly. Okay,right right, this is a step too
far. This is awful. Whywould we ever do this? Um,
I can't imagine it. Like Iknow that I'm coming from a twenty first

(35:15):
century like perspective, but like thisidea of I've never understood hating people so
much you'd walk off your job becausethey get to work there, except like
Nazis. Well, sure, butthat's ideology, yes, not not like
existence. I just I've never understoodthat. It's always It's like I can't
believe that things like that actually happened, Like this isn't a stretch and still

(35:37):
happen. It's ridiculous. Um.Oh yeah, everything's terrible. I don't
think watching a couple episodes and legendsis gonna make us understand racist. Oh
no, I don't think it willeither. Um, but I do like
this conversation, um that they havewhere this happened and so and gladis so
like gladis to name right. Ineed to go. I need to go

(36:00):
and talk to mister Staples, likehe needs to undo this because everybody's walking
off the job. I like theidea that they care that, like they
care about the war effort, they'rehere to help. And if this is
going to ruin it, if thisis going to mean that we can't make
the planes and the factory has toshut down. Also they care about their
jobs, right, then then wedon't want it like we want this,

(36:21):
you know, we want it tohappen when everybody wants it to happen.
Sort of deal. Yeah, Butat the same time, I do understand
like other people would probably be frustratedat this idea of like, you know,
allowing racism to happen because of whatshe says like slow and study progress
is last in progress. Yeah,it's sustainable. The other one I liked,

(36:43):
what could is change if it doesn'tlast? And like this this is
not the right analogy, but it'sa bit of the like MLK versus Malcolm
Bax thing here, like look,you either have to go slowly and let
people get used to it and likenot be not be in people's face about
it, but just be persistent,or you have to go in guns blazing,

(37:06):
and that's like this is a badanalogy, but like Astra essentially tries
to go in and force it inand glad this is like, this is
useless. You're fucking up everything.Now we have to like slowly do this.
It's not just a little like MLKversus Malcolm X. It's literally MLKA
because Astra I don't know if she'sa doing this conversation, but I think
she does. She says, youdon't stick a knife in a man's back

(37:28):
nine inches then pull it out sixinches and call it progress. Is literally
a Malcolm X quote. But yeah, it's a little bit of like the
revolutionary radical perspective versus the sustainable progress. Like progress does come in like in
sort of bursts, similar to evolutionum, where you know there's slow like
gurglings of change and then and thenit just happens and we have to force

(37:49):
some people to come along with us. Right, I hope that their ideology
dies out. But then, likelike Gladness is saying, too, there's
the there's the pendulum swings the oppositeway, and if it doesn't swing as
much the first time, there's lesslikely going to be less of that pushback.
We're not going to fuck up thewhole plant. We're going to get
little things, slowly but surely,like it's all. It's again, We're

(38:09):
not here to solve these things.I'm just impressed that this dumb superhero show
got to it, you know.Yeah. No, they do a very
good job of presenting those two warringideologies. And I don't think either one
is right and either one is wrong. I don't. I think that you
have to sort of find that middleground because sometimes you have to force progress
along, which is what Astra isdoing. Yes, surprisingly heavy and thoughtful

(38:31):
take on this subject. Meanwhile,Nate is moving into a bracelet. Yeah.
Sorry, I just liked that transition. Are we good on the rosy
discussion right now? Okay? Ididn't want to cut you off. That's
fine. How do you feel aboutthat? It's stupid? Man, Like,

(38:52):
there's no part I want them them. I want Nate and Sorry one
point zero to have a happy endingultimately. But there's kind of no version
of living in Jewelry for me thatfeels like a win, Like I we're
just talking mcguffins and stuff at thispoint, Like a different version of this

(39:13):
might have felt better. I don'tknow why this is different to me than
like the Monitor putting Felicity and Oliverin their own little dimension, like I
realized it's kind of the same thing. In fact, Nate has more agency
here, seemingly to like commute andstill be part of the team or whatever.
But it just feels dumb. Thesolve here, to me feels like

(39:37):
finding a way for Zari not tohave to live in the bracelet and for
them to then fuck off and happilyever after. I don't know, thoughts
brief tangent, Please is that whathappens so Felicity? Oh yeah, I
have no idea. I've watched Crisisand that I didn't watch any more of
Arrow because I haven't watched any ofArrow past. You you didn't watch Green

(39:59):
Arrow in the can Areas. Idid not watch Cranie. I am a
little horrified. Really they do aclock tower? Oh well see, no,
I kind of want to watch thatone episode. Oh what's the two?
Yes? Ultimately, the last thingwe see from Felicity, I think
is the monitor like taking your openingthis thing. I think it's like the

(40:19):
Queen Consolidated Offices when maybe the PenthouseI bt this. I'm fuzzy on um.
And then Oliver's there and they getto fuck off and live there forever.
It's the same thing that happened tothe original Superman in the Crisis Comics.
Oh, I didn't know that becauseI haven't read the Crisis Cromics.
I really need to. But um, yeah, I didn't pocket Dimension happily

(40:39):
ever after a thing interesting, Butthen Oliver comes back for an episode of
the Flash because he's allowed to whenthe multiverses seem paril Well, well,
MIA's in an episode of the Flashtwo and talks about like going to see
her mom. So that's why Iwas confused seven rewatching the Flash that must
be in the Boy. Yeah,maybe Felicity can come and oh god,

(41:01):
I forgot about that. And Armageddonyou're talking about right here? Yeah armageddon?
Hm hmm, okay, we might. We might have to put the
Arrow signal up in the sky andget the boys back in here soon.
Anyway, anyway, beyond that,yes, living here's my thing. I
don't care full stop, like Idon't I like Zara one point zero.

(41:27):
I would love for a version whereshe and Zara two point z can just
co exist on the same plane andit doesn't ruin them the end of that
situation, ye before it kills um. But I also don't care enough about
like like, I like Nate,I really do, but he is not
my favorite of these people, soI don't ultimately care that much. Um,

(41:52):
he can live in a bracelet.Cool, he's basically living on another
plane, right, Yeah, essentially, But it's tied to this mcguffin thing
that we have not enough shot tothe point where like Zari at one point
is saying, like, oh,I don't really understand the rules of the
pracelet's, so I guess all thiscan happen, you know, Like it's

(42:14):
all so nebulous and weird, andit kind of feels that the writers don't
care either. Yeah, it's Ithink basically like I don't know if they
knew Nick Zarano didn't want to comeback for next season already. I assume
so, because because this is basicallylike them writing him off, yeah,
building it up, and it's andlike the end of the season gets rid
of him, you know. Yeah, So I don't know. I also

(42:37):
I realized that while I was watchingthis episode and like reading your notes about
like being confused and thinking that it'snot a win, and I'm just like,
wow, I realized that I don'tcare enough. Yeah, Okay,
that's that's fair. Um, allright, So so either a negative reaction
or just whatever your apathy, that'sfine. I do however, like the

(42:58):
Nate storyline in this episode, rightbefore he moves into the bracelet, he's
got to learned about Persian manners,which is a custom of tarOf yes,
um, yes, which I likethe explanation where like you know you yeah,
it's all these things of like youhave to refuse what you're being offered
at someone's house three times before youaccept it and whatnot, and Nate's like,

(43:19):
so you're all just lying to eachother and Sorry's like finally you're getting
Yeah, yes, you understand thisis this is always what manners are.
This is just a specific brand ofit. It's just custom and manners.
It's all it is. Yeah.Um, I like it because they use
um Bishop yes as like the he'slike the worst house guest ever, so
therefore you will be kind to himas a test of your ability to understand.

(43:46):
Yes. So that's the lesson forNate. But meanwhile, the lesson
for Bad is different is to bea little bit more of a dick to
him. So you know, there'sa there's a lot that can be learned
with Bishop in the house. Butturns out Bishop was just being a dick
because he was building a dumb helmetfor Gideon to wear. So and then
he takes one for the team,So I guess, like, you know,

(44:07):
all good whatever. Yeah, Idon't think he was just being rude
so he could build the things.I think this is being rude because he
is that kind of person. Butalso he built this thing for getting in
with Zari's phone and a speaking spell. Yes, yeah, I'm sorry we're
getting into like this stuff. Now, let's let's jump into the ship log
for a second challenge. Let's doit, nayt and sorry. At one
point out, I think we've establishedyou wish there was a better solve for

(44:30):
that. Yes, Um, Astraand Spooner, is this the This can't
be the first time that they havebeen the the racially segregated time pals in
Venture is so all of this seasonis the writers putting Astro and Spooner together
and making them like best buds,right, So they start off like that,

(44:52):
fitting into some viewers wants for themto maybe have a different relationship exactly
we were all hoping. Yeah,Um, I don't know whether they I
can't remember if they specifically face likeracism. I know they face some sexism
stuff, um, But basically itwas them like finding their own way through
time, right with Gideon, rightwith with with kind of this this mental

(45:15):
patient with them basically, yes,exactly, which the hundred episode is amazing.
Um. But yeah, so Idon't know. I They're definitely not.
It's not the only time they've beenon their own with each other,
and I like that they have thissort of shorthand, But I don't know
that they've faced a specific type ofYeah, racism. Um, it's it's

(45:37):
obviously you hate, especially when peoplefrom a more progressive time I have to
go back and deal with us.But it's it's it's nice to have let
them have a friend in this,you know, like it feels like,
you know, I feel like JacksonAmaya were separate in the Civil War episode.
I keep going back to that onebecause that that is truly the one
that made me go like wow.Together at a certain points, it's like

(46:00):
they have conversations at various points aboutlike the difficulty of seeing slavery in action
when you are bullshit of all this, yeah, right, when you are
yourself black. But like, soI like that they put them together to
let them have a conversation rather thanhaving it be because the other option would
be to put them with one ofthe white people and have to explain it
to them, right, So,rather than having them explain it, they

(46:22):
just have them commiserate with someone elsewho's also experiencing it. And again,
it just avoids all that, likethey instantly have it and seeing them like
Sarah instantly had like that, nobodyhas to be kind of kind of explain
to this going forward, right exactly, Um, Astra and b I don't
I mean they're cute. Yeah,it's a good scene and she's complaining about

(46:49):
doing things wrong and he puts hishead on her shoulders like I want to
see things from your perspective, blahblah, and he learns that he's got
to have a little bit more Astrain him. Like it's a lovely little
scene. They almost maybe kiss orhave a moment, and then shit happens
on the factory floor, you know, like, yeah, whatever, I
think it's very sweet. I don'tship it, but I do understand why

(47:10):
people would, right, yeah,I'm with you too. It's also like
pull the trigger or don't here agang, you know, like, right,
let's do something. They There isan episode and a couple a couple
episodes from now where they do theum the reality show thing in hell yeah
yeah yeah, where they do alittle more of that. Um. But
it's like, yeah, they neverpulled the trigger. So I don't,

(47:31):
like I said, I don't care, Like I started out not really caring
about Natan sorry, and I didend up liking them, but because they
actually like did it right, theygot them together, they had them together
for several episodes that kind of thing. Um. So, but in this
case, like they're just beating aroundthe bush like it's it's annoying and I

(47:52):
don't care. Um, it's alot of that, right, Like I
just don't. I don't. Idon't care. Yeah, um, you
haven't made me care. It's basicallywhat I'm what I'm saying. Do you
think they're very sweet? A moresolid decision would have would have slidified feelings
here. Yeah, right, Ido think they're very sweet, are do
you two? I think it's alovely scene. I like that they both

(48:12):
learned something from each other. Um, but I don't like I see them
as like great friends, you know. Yeah, exactly. Um. Meanwhile,
I'd forgotten about this almost like vaguelymother daughter vibes between Astra and Gideon
that has started, like you weresaying, because like Astra made her essentially

(48:34):
and then she and Spooner it's beenyou know, two two women in a
robot going through time here. Um, but it's cute where like what is
the lesson here of like why dohumans lie to each other or whatever?
Yeah, And basically it's Gideon fundingnow that like, you know, humans
keep secrets and I don't understand itkeep secrets, that's it. Yeah,

(48:54):
And then of course it's the uhit the helmet reads Gideon's mind and she
says that the Gary's shirt looks niceand his pants accentuate his bum. Yes,
and now I know why humans keepsere So it's a it's a quick
story arc for getting in this episodeis but it's nice, like I like
getting experiencing like humanity. Yeah yeah, um all the time for eleanor Roosevelt

(49:15):
to come in and kind of savethe day here exactly. Well, that's
so Astra had promised Gladys that theywouldn't lose their jobs at the end of
this right, and this is howshe guarantees it. Yeah, Staples wakes
up and he freaks out and she'slike, you know, I thought you
said you were going to protect uswhatever, and she's like, here is
that yes? And then Da SexEleanor Roosevelt books and and knows what's up,

(49:42):
sees that Staples is this asshole,understands that this wasn't really him doing
this, but does the like,oh, aren't we so lucky ladies to
have these wonderful men in our livesmaking these great decisions. Mister Staples,
You're wonderful. Don't change a thing, you know right exactly? U.
Eleanor Roosevelt played by Christine Willis.I believe Um, who also for small

(50:06):
Ville fans in our audience, playedGranny Goodness on the tenth season of Smallville.
You pointed this out to me theother day and it kind of blew
my mind. I a tenth seasonof small Ville. I'm sure it will
be discussed on some other podcast atsome point. Um. I love her
as Granny Goodness. I especially lovehow she says apocalypse at one point.

(50:27):
I think it's in the finale,but I'm like, oh cool, I've
never heard it said with like somesome flavor on it. You know,
I really pronounced the weird spelling buckolips. Yeah. Um anyway, yeah,
cool, that's that's awesome. Shedoes a great job here, She's
awesome on Smallville. Must be aCanadian, you know day actor. Well,
yeah, she's a Canadian staple.So if you also watched Dead Like
Me and she's in Dead Like Me, okay, cool, And I bet

(50:50):
she's in a couple episodes of DaVinci's Chronicles or whatever the fuck that show
is too? Oh good? Yeah? Probably? Um? Well cool,
yeah, I love her. Herethey get their photo. I thought what
was going to fuck them up twotime wise, was they get the photo
of everyone in the factory that's apparentlygoing to be on the cover of Time.
That'd be an issue. But insteadwe get to have a little party

(51:12):
and everybody's happy and you know,sayah goodbyes to Gladys and everybody in the
workforce. Gladys, let's ask herwhere her hair out of her butt again?
You know, like it's just kindof like setting everything right. Nate's
learned lessons about tarOf and knows howto refuse things and blah blah blah,
and I like Zi and the cakewith the cake. Yes, yeah,

(51:37):
what did she say to like complexcarbo hydrates or something? Yeah, I
was like complex though it's like,uh like carbs and sugar or something like
that. Yeah. Yeah, butit's all very cute and the legends of
one the day until Nate makes thecomments of like, yeah, an integrated
work for us two years ahead oftime. Fuck what and then immediately like

(52:00):
yeah, even like before that,we see people, um like repelling in
from the roof onto the plane andlike you know, we see them as
the audience. But the legends ongood. Yeah, thankfully Nate said that
otherwise they would have had no warning, no idea what was going on.
Yeah, they would have been theywould have been taken out. Um but
yeah, but the mass people thatwe have no idea who they are.

(52:22):
Who could they possibly be? Abig production values here, I know,
we're just on a set or whatever. But we've got we've got the time
Machine blaring in, We've got allof our cast running from all of these
squibs and jumping over stuff on bigpieces of the plane and whatnot. Like
it just looks cool and it's arace to the time Machine and getting gets
him out of there, and thenbut before Bishop caused a distraction and then

(52:45):
is killed and then is killed butwith like a real like salute Sarah as
he's been shot. Yeah, it'sgood. I don't know. This whole
finale feels super dupe, duper coolto me. Yes, I agree.
Um, and then I guess wecan't get into it too much, but
we establish that who attacked them werethe robo legends, where we don't get

(53:09):
the roots, well, different legends, You're right, yes, other legends
somehow, somehow aggressive evil legends.Um, we don't even see it.
Like I was trying to look atNate very closely in this, but I'm
like, we don't even see thathe's like super small or anything yet,
He's not super swoll until like areboot, I think, oh, okay,
so he's he's a normal bodied Natehere. That wasn't a messing.

(53:30):
Yes, interesting, Okay, I'mnot positive. We'd have to watch the
next episode to find out. Butwe get weird side braids, Sarah,
which is how we know it's evilrobots Sarah. Yes, to be continued.
I think it's a really fun episode. I agree. I forgot how
light the show feels now seven,but it's just kind of a full on
comedy. Really, shall we jumpinto some legendary moments? Let's do it?

(53:53):
What do you got? Um?I have Astro and Gladys talking about
progress. I really like that scenea lot. Yeah, no, it's
low. I'm just laughing because Ipicked a really stupid one. But yes,
you're you're absolutely right. I wasthinking about it like, there weren't
really any big There weren't any bigfight scenes or anything up to the end
part. No, there's like we'rerunning away playing Marco Polo with the military

(54:14):
in the woods. But any legendarymoment was going to have to be a
quieter moment. Yeah, kind oflike, well, which is why mine
is really stupid. And I justreally I didn't know where else to put
it in the Tassiers, and Iwanted to make sure it was mentioned Nate's
making pasta for the whole team.It's just like it's a nice detail.
I guess it's It's weird though,where did they get all the stuff to
make pasta? When did Nate learnthis? They sit down and have the

(54:37):
pasta dinner at one point, whichis fine, but I'm like, you
know, John, apparently only todispel to make whiskey in the in the
fridge. Like you were saying,like more more of this would have been
helpful, John. Maybe they openedthe cabinets and found that they also had
pasta, head flower and whatever elseyou need. I don't know how to

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make pasta. It's flower and yokesokay, great, and no shortage of
eggs apparently. Meanwhile, MVL forme was spooner for some excellent machining skills.
Like she has to put it puttogether eighteen of these transistors, but
she does one very quickly and atleast Gwinn seems very happy with it.
Indeed, um mine is her girlfriendAstram. This is Astra's episode, like

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I think she is. It's realhighlighted for her and it's great. Also,
like not to be gross to anything, but this was watching this,
I was like, Oh, Astrais by far my biggest Legends crush.
I always forget how strikingly beautiful Oliviais and it's orgies and I love her
standing next to literally anybody in thisepisode because she's like a thousand feet tall

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five feet taller yeah exactly, anyway, neither here nor there. But it
was just like, oh right,she looks like that right anyway, Cards
to save the Timeline. I don'thave any scenarios for this one because you
have so many. Let's trade them, then let's go back and forth.
Okay, I always remember the waveRider's escape pod is disguised as blank.
The best way to combat generational racismduring time travel is too blank. To

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fix Gwyn's time machine, we'll needeighteen stabilizers in a good blank. Good
guy Bishop would really appreciate some icewater with a pinch of blank for electrolytes.
Do you never remember what it wasin the episode salt, isn't it?
Yeah? Weird? I could neverdrink that? Is it just me?
Or does Gwynn kind of look likeblank? And as solutions and people

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I had? Yeah, I hadejector seat, toilet, move into a
bracelet, learn to rough and impresscranky long dead uncles, and I have
six hundred gsm Egyptian cotton, aspeaking spell, ignore the frozen man in
the corner, and screw up historyparentheses for the better. That is that

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is an evergreen card. Indeed bingoweird episode new card. But we only
have one solid thing and two todiscuss, which just makes me worried season
seven in general. But okay,yeah, I'm also considering how quickly I
got Bingo last time. Maybe it'sgood to have some slowdown moments there.
But political run in. We've goteleanor Roosevelt here, solid done. Twosaris,

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Well, yes, I do too, because both Zaris are in the
episode. Yes, I say thesame thing if we have them both in
the episode, not in a hologramor whatever, but like physically they're interacting
with people, they don't have tointeract with each other. I guess it's
my question. Great, two Saris, it is legend v legend, obviously

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we have it turns out that itwas the army of evil Legends robo legends
fighting us at the end. Thatdoesn't feel in the spirit of the law
to me. Okay, if itdoesn't feel in the spirit of the car
to you, I will defer tothat. I think that's okay. I
think it's got to be when liketwo legends, two of our people are
actually fighting, whether one of them'smind altered or whatever. Okay, then

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that, yep, not in thestarend of the car. Okay. Cool.
Meanwhile, we're not going to rollthis week? Are we We are
not going to roll this week becauseyou got bingo and we put up a
poll to our listeners to find outwhich of the four episodes you selected we
would cover. You were quite surprisedwith the result. I was, yeah,
well, I was just like,I didn't know that people had the

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same affinity for this episode that Idid. I thought the choice was going
to be. If I had tobet, I would have said Taguma Attacks.
Well, Taguma Attacks did only loseby one vote. Okay, that's
impressive. Then today, but nextepisode, we're gonna be watching six to
eleven, the final Frame, theBowling episode. I love the Bowling episode.

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I love it too. Do youknow like the weird DC fan theory
behind this episode? I do not. I look forward to getting into that.
Ooh interesting teaser for next episode.Yeah, you taught us about real
history today, and I'm about toteach you about some fake shit. This
is okay, Well cool, we'lldo We'll do that and then we'll roll

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and go from there. Hey,everybody, thank you for following us on
social and stuff. But but justa reminder before we remind you again in
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If you have any suggestions, youget cards or whatever. If you
want to school us on some history, yeah, oh my god. Please,
we would love to hear from you. So thank you everybody for listening

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you beautiful narraview, thanks for listening. Just sorry, I had to remember

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how to account there for a second. That's okay. We all forget how
to account sometimes