December 24, 2023 • 42 mins
Happy Beebo Eve, Legends! To celebrate, you co-captains are breaking out that perennial favorite holiday special, Beebo Saves Christmas. Put down your Gaming-Wow X Editions and cuddle up for a chat about gift-giving, television development, and deep cuts Beebo canon. Happy Holidays, Legends! See you next year!
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(00:00):
Okay, favorite Christmas special, go, favorite Christmas special ooh, or episode
of thing or movie. Okay,so my favorite Christmas movie is White Christmas.
But my favorite Christmas special, likealong these lines, is definitely Year
without a Santa Claus, even thoughit's insane. Oh wow that yeah,
I was not super into that asa kid. I guess if we're going
(00:20):
those lines, like I could watchThe Grinch, the original Grinch, it's
on a loop. Yeah. Somy hometown is the same hometown as Doctor
Seuss. Oh cool. You havebig statue and stuff of him or the
cat of him and the cat andalso a bunch of Oh okay, there's
like Horton and all this stuff.Then the entire text of all the places
you'll go. That's pretty cool.Okay, the statue got a lot better
(00:41):
as we were talking. Did younot like the rank and bass ones like
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clamation? The only one I likedreally as a kid, or that like
I had any funds for it atall was Rudolph and I loved Realolf.
Yeah, yeah, that was thatwas it? Like like the Heat Miser
and you know, Cold Miser orwhatever, like no take them or leave
them? Yeah, those are myfavorite. When I was a kid.
I loved heat miser and cold miseror heat and snow miser. It's oppositely
(01:26):
what you think. It's very weird. Not a real fan over here,
fake fan, but I am areal co captain. Welcome back to Always
hold on to DC's Legends of Tomorrow. I'm co captain Matt True, I'm
another co captain, Tricia Ennis,and we have a very special episode for
you today. We do if youcouldn't tell we I so want to get
into this, but truly now,I'm like, if we ever get to
(01:47):
talk to Kedow again, which hopefullyor Guggenheim or whatever, I want at
least twenty minutes of that conversation tobe devoted to like what what was up
here? How did this happen?Yeah? I'm not saying that out of
hate, because I think it's it'sa perfectly charming little thing. But I'm
like, who, what where didthis come from? And I have a
little bit of research on this,okay, but not enough. I was
(02:08):
it was different than I thought itwas going to be. Yeah, what
did you think? I thought itwas going to be more legends humor same.
But by the way, I'm sorrywe're talking about BEB Saves Christmas h
quote unquote in universe era verse Christmasspecial animated thing. Anyway, continue,
I didn't. I didn't have anylike, I didn't look it up.
Honestly, I knew the title.I knew it had happened, but I
(02:30):
didn't see it when it happened.Think anyone did, right, That's the
thing. And I just let myselfgo into it having absolutely no idea what
it was going to be. AndI wasn't expecting like a heartfelt, like
real Christmas special, like a realthing. I was expecting it to be
dumb, yes, with like somelegends realness of like oh but that was
(02:53):
actually kind of sweet, you know, like that type of thing. Yeah,
but no, it is legit tryingto be It's so weird it legit
trying to be a Christal special tothe point where I'm like, in ten
years from now, does like somekid that grew up watching this or like
you know, their parents had iton DVD or they caught it once as
a kid like later grow up andbe like, wait, that's from what
(03:14):
you know? Basically you're asking ifour children are going to say this,
Yeah, I guess so yes,our children who we are like, let's
do an experiment, Let's make themmuch this five times when you're like,
we're definitely going to be those peoplewho are like, so have you have
you told them yet? Yeah?No, Okay, how long you thin
you're gonna keep that going? Now? They think Babo's a real deal,
(03:36):
but like it's that it feels likeone of those like direct to vhs or
DVDs or whatever animated things. That'slike, you know, if this was
the same script and it was likemy little Pony Christmas, I'd be like,
sure, you know, I getthis, and we're selling some toys
and we're doing whatever. And thatseems to be the the very earnest like
(03:59):
in universe thought behind. Yeah,they basically asked the question of like,
if Bibo were real and they wantedto make a tie in Christmas movie,
what would it be. They tookthat question extremely seriously and made an actual
Christmas special with music, which isweird because hold on, let's just set
the table and we're talking about BebaSaves Christmas Episode one of one only originally
(04:23):
aired Yeah, December one, twothousand and twenty one on the CW.
I have no ratings whatsoever, becauseI think there were negative ratings on this.
Written by Matthew Mala, a writerand producer on Legends, and Kevin
Shinnick, who is like written otheranimation things but otherwise not connected to the
(04:44):
euro first that I could see,Yeah, I don't recke and yeah,
and directed by Jojo Ramos Patrick whoIt's done a lot of animation directing,
which makes sense, you know,but otherwise it's pretty detached. I found
this one quote from Mark Guggenheim,and I've seen stuff. I forget if
it was from Guggenheim or Ketto orsomebody, but they were like, we're
(05:06):
trying to do like this is inour minds a Christmas special that like Barry
and Sarah and like all of ourAero Verse friends would have grown up watching.
Yeah, I'm like, okay,great Guggenheim said. First of all,
he says, I fear it isso sweet that it'll make the audience
diabetic, which is secure, butalso the original quote. The original concept
(05:29):
for the special was very two meta, with Bibo saving an old videotape called
Bibo Saves Christmas, which meant thatthe title for the special, I Kid
You Not was originally going to becalled Bibo Saves Bibo Saves Christmas, which
I'm like, that is more oflike what I kind of expected this to
be. Yeah, exactly. Thatfeels so much more like what I would
(05:49):
have assumed this was before going intoit. And it is an incredibly like
sweet saccharine almost like Christmas Special.I mean, it goes right along like
Charlie Brown Christmas and you know allthe ranking Bass ones and uh, you
know the animated Frosty movie and allthat stuff. We watched His Kids,
(06:10):
and it is still it's not quitein this the right vein of being like
a nineties era animation, right,it's a little more modern, like a
little more like My Little Pony FriendsFriendship His Magic, but it's still like
super sweet and has all these funinteresting songs, and it's you can kind
of see like Carra and Alex likesitting around watching it on Supergirl, or
(06:32):
like like Sarah and Laurel growing upwatching it and like and all like every
basically everybody. You could see themhaving grown, Like you could see Cisco
referencing this on Flash sure, totally, but I could see this in the
background too, of like a sceneand like they could, like Legends could
have very easily wrapped a whole episodearound right, they're all sitting in watching
(06:53):
yeah, kind of mister Parker's stylewhere it's like that's kind of talking about
what we're going through right now.Anyway. The thing for me though,
is that it absolutely lacks context.Yes, so I can't imagine, like
I'm assuming this was in CW's likeChristmas lineup right, like where December first
and and just like hung out thereby itself, Like yeah, that's that's
what I mean. Like they likethey probably throw it out there, like
(07:14):
it kind of feels like something thatwould air on like ABC Family if it
were a real thing. Yeah.Yeah, but it's like it's like if
you if someone showed you like Rudolphor My Little Pony teanagement in Nina Turtles
with absolutely zero context. There's likesit here and watch this. It's one
hundred percent serious. Yeah, itis that she would be so confused to
(07:36):
the point where like you've got andI want to get into my thoughts about
some of this casting here, notthat I disliked anybody here, but we've
got these other characters, got Turboand Fleebo and tweebow and you know,
like the Bibo's other friends who likepresumably were like the cast of the Bibo
animated series Quota yea quote you know. But it's like, yeah, they
(07:59):
almost introduce it here too, oflike we're not spending much time with these
people a because like it's all prettythinly yeah, you know, written characters
and you get what's happening. Butit's also like it does kind of operate
in the idea of like, well, you already have your flee Bo figure,
you know what Fleebo is all about, Like it's like the Muppets.
Yeah, I got a lot oflike different vibes. So it was it's
funny because his lax context that Iwas thinking about this as you were talking
(08:20):
where to the point where I startedwatching it with my girlfriend's still in the
room and she she just goes,okay, wait what is Bibo? And
I had to explain the whole thing. I'm like, Okay, So he's
like a weird combination of like aFerbie and a Teddy Ruckspin. Yeah a
god, but yeah, but allhe is is like he's IP in that
(08:41):
world, he's in universe. It'sbasically like if someone sent a ferbie back
to pre colonial the United States andit got interrupted. You know that people
would just be like, what whatis it? But I also I like,
like you said, like Bibo alsohas like very little personality outside of
like he loves cuddles. Yeah,exactly, Well, apparently he l la
(09:01):
la la loves the holidays. Hedoes that. He does do that as
well. Yes, all right casthere, Yes, the only aeroverse person
unless there's some like hidden fucking creditfor somebody in here, is Victor Garber.
Yeah, for all of ten minuterecord as the narrator, which is
to say, he says a coupleof sentences in the beginning, Beebo takes
(09:22):
over the narration, and then healmost has the last word at the end,
Yeah, which is which is cute. It's a cute gag. But
I'm like, do you think there'sa world where originally the cast you know,
the Legends or Grant or like somebodywas going to voice these other characters.
I don't think there's a world inwhich that was the idea. I
(09:45):
think there's a world in which theytossed around the idea of it being a
more aeroverse related rather than them voicingthese other characters because like they got voice
actors, yeah, to voice thesecharacters, and like if that Nicole Brown
is here, Glenn is he,Ernie Hudson is here, you know,
like there's some there's some real dealpeople. Yeah, they got some like
(10:05):
good actors to like good actors whodo a lot of voiceover acting, uh,
to be in this thing. Andit's I just think that's really funny
that it's like they took it onehundred percent seriously. Yes, the production
one hundred percent seriously, the writingone hundred percent seriously, the song one
hundred percent seriously. It's just veryfunny. I think it's actually more funny
that they took it so seriously.And it's also like I don't want to
(10:28):
sound disappointed, because I'm like,this is cute. I would show a
kid to this. Yeah, absolutely, And I think it's quality and there's
some actually very funny jokes and wecan get into favorite parts or whatever.
But for the most part, itwas just like, how how the fuck
did this happen? No exactly whowas idea was it? How did you
pitch it to the network If itwasn't the network's idea, right, what
did they say, yeah, anddid the did the network ask like,
(10:52):
can we get an animated something thatties into the arrow verse? And then
this was delivered in the network's likewhat the fuck? You know? Did
it for five dollars? So it'sfine exactly. Yeah, Ernie Hudson's the
biggest paycheck, you know, seriously, we're victim. Yeah, okay,
I want to say I think thebest parts of this whole thing are the
(11:15):
songs. I agree. The songsare good, like well written, yeah,
cute jokes. Yeah, there's LaLa La La Love the Holidays,
that's what it's called. Yeah,well that's what I'm calling it. I
think it's actually sorry Christmas Time Bebostyle. Oh yeah, I like that
one. And there's there's a repriseof that later which is like Christmas Time
and we could see everybody's style.There is I don't know what Sana's song
(11:39):
is called, like what I'll DoNext Christmas or something? Oh no,
it's I wonder, I wonder,Yeah, what it'll be like for me
not to have to deal Christmas nextyear or whatever. Yeah, and then
that's what I called progress. Yeah, it's which is Chris Catan, which
is actually quite funny. Chris Catanand then start a little ripple. Yeah,
that one was cute, all ofit. It's composed by the at
(12:01):
least in the credits, Daniel JamesChan who has done a lot of music
for Legends, so like it makessense to me. And and also Kevin
Shinnick is the lyricists, so I'mlike, okay, we're like, we're
in here, and he's actually gotsome some good, you know, power
to it. I'm sure we've allseen shitty, you know, musical tie
in things that are just like,oh my god, kill me, you
(12:24):
know. Some of the songs arecredited also to Jason Michael Webb, who
does a lot of like music departmentstuff on like The Greatest Showman and oh
cool. I didn't see that.I just have him pulled up on IMDb.
IMDb is failing me at the moment. The music department has two people
one and I have any soundtracks anyway, So did you have a favorite song?
(12:48):
The one that's been in my headfor the past week has been Christmas
and then the like people. Ijust don't think that that's the way the
Christmas should be. I'm no,no, no, no, no,
no, no, listen, yeah, right, I will say it's a
super strong opening, like just himconstantly going around and like other people celebrating
Christmas differently and him being like,no, that's wrong. But I do
(13:13):
think the one that's like most inmy wheelhouses, Start a Little Ripple.
Yeahs like almost like a kid's Abbaversion type of you know, there's a
bit of disco too, there's abit of disco to it. Yeah,
I think Start a Little Ripple isprobably my favorite. But it's Christmas time.
Bibosa was very funny. Yeah,they're all really funny. I do
think too, Like you know whatI asked. Sorry, we're just all
(13:35):
over the place because this is gonnabe a short one gang, but it's
a little forty minute Christmas special.It's about a Christmas special. Also,
I'm getting over COVID, so yeah, so give her a break like flee
Bow. Yes, who is thegrumpiest, the big old grump. Yeah,
he's somehow both the Grinch and Oscarthe Grudge and Mick Rory and McCrory.
(13:58):
Yeah I did. There was likean one moment when he's talking about
the suggestion box for complaints where Iwas like, Okay, that's mcfrory.
I was like, that's just linesthat McCrory would say. And also Tweebo,
who is the cute little she's likethe influencer and she's always streaming and
like she wants to go to theNorth Pole to get a selfie with Sanda
because that's going to be really playedto her followers and all that. I'm
(14:20):
like, sorry too, yes,you know, like that's where I'm like,
where we trying to get some peopleinvolved here, you know, like
I don't know who Turbo would havebeen the event. Nicole Brown Characters,
who's like a mom just trying toget the wait for it, gaming Wow
ex Edition. Yes, she constantlysays gaming Wow ex Edition to the point
(14:41):
where you have to assume in universeit was a real thing that they were
also hawking or there was like abig episode about it in the Beebo the
animated series or something. Yeah,yeah, yeah yeah. Italian Italian game
Boy color game was Bibo Gaming WowExedition. Know, there was definitely at
least a Talian Biebo video game andit was blue of course. Yes.
(15:07):
Oh and the VHS that this wason was also all of the series,
you know when they released. Yeah, I feel like the only allegory I
can think of for the eventical Browncharacter is like maybe Ava, oh okay,
sure, being like very preoccupied,Yeah, kind of type, we're
(15:28):
gonna get this done. Yes,it's gonna what's gonna it's gonna happen.
I accomplished my mission. But yeah, there's some of the characters map very
well onto other people, like evenBibo. I feel like it's kind of
Ray Yeah, yeah, I guessthat's the best one. There's a little
Sarah in him too, yeah,but like the less noble parts of Sarah.
And and he's voiced by Ben Diskin, who is the voice actor.
(15:50):
He is like a legit voice actor, but does do Biebo's voice in the
series too. That that's gonna bethe easiest day for him to do when
you actually do like real legends episodesof Yeah Yeah this though, shout out
to him. I thought he dida really good job of keeping that voice
(16:11):
alive and not having it be likeawful, like like finding a way to
translate that into a whole performance insteadof just like three line readings like you're
saying. I did realize that,like he does change the voice for just
normal speech because he can't do thevoice he uses for b a bo Wan
coddles, because the cuddles is inlike a baby voice, and if he
(16:34):
did that the whole time, itwould drive people insane. It probably drives
him insane. Yeah, you're probablyright, because he does switch into it
when he says cuddles. When hedoes cuddles, you're like, oh,
he said the thing, Yeah,but he did it differently than when he
says other words. But yeah,that's that was like my one thing where
like it was kind of like withLegends where it's like something happens where you're
like, well, that's not correct, but that's fine because it's probably better.
(16:56):
Yeah, but there's like my bestallegory to this. It's like there's
kind of a SpongeBob energy throughout this. Yes, not quite as funny,
not quite as creative, but inlike that's the vein that this is in
a little bit to me. Yeah, I mean SpongeBob if very much.
They didn't give them as much moneyto like spend time on it, Oh
totally. Yeah, And there's there'sjust that kind of anarchic too many art
(17:18):
students in a room quality the SpongeBobwhich we're missing here, which I could
have used a little more of butlike when they do, like at one
point, I'm gonna get these names, motherfucker, Tweebo, the influencer one.
Like it's like I'm gonna take allour pictures and I have this app
that turns us into reindeer and it'slike this deformed reindeer, where like one
of them is the ass and oneof them is his stomach and one of
them the phase. And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's funny,
(17:41):
Like that's a bit SpongeBob here,you know. Yeah, I think SpongeBob
was probably the humor they were kindof going for. But it's also that's
a very hard style to make.Holy shit. Yes, that's why there's
not really good you know, mimicsof sponge or you know, not right
exactly what I feel like, mostpeople just dress something else. Although there's
three SpongeBob shows now, which blowsmy mind. I can't keep track there.
(18:03):
At one point, I was talkingabout SpongeBob episodes that I remember airing
for the first time mm hmm,and I was like, yeah, those
were like really early, Yeah,those were like gold. Yeah. I
had to explain Pinky out to mymy wife the other day and I'm like,
where were you in nineteen ninety eight? You know, like this anyway,
but there's jokes like that. There'slike when they get to the North
(18:25):
Pole, there's like almost like ajob a palace type eye thing that comes
out yes them and it's like analexa. Right. They have to like
keep asking to see Santa and itdoesn't understand what they're saying every until he
says, what is it? Likerandom? We can't have random chores.
It's like, did you want tosee Santa Claus? Yes? But also
like in that I forget what thethe thing is that sets it off,
(18:48):
But it's like now playing Beethoven's fifthand like that music becomes a runner throughout
this whole thing. You know,Like I don't know, there's some really
cute stuff here and you can tellit's written by funny bit it's written by
you. Matthew Malla is funny andproven himself on legends obviously, and who
knows who's had little punch ups hereand there. But I'm like, okay,
(19:08):
this is not not entertaining. ButI really was as a first time
viewer, expecting some aero verse kindof callouts or small references, even background
shit or something, and there wasone aeroverse reference and it's at the very
end. Bibo has a Legends DVD. Didn't even catch it when he's on
(19:30):
Santas Sleigh. Motherfuck. Okay,it's like the only thing. Wow,
yeah, okay. So there.They spend all this time to be so
so like in their zone of whatthis is, and then they broke the
university right at the end, justbefore it end, like they had.
They were carrying it for like fortyone minutes, and then right at the
(19:51):
end we got to throw one inhere. The other one though too,
and maybe like, can you shedlight into what this line means the most
like specific line that's in there.Then I'm like, oh, they are
writing this for somebody, and it'snot necessarily me, but they're writing this
for somebody. At one point,tweebo is going to be hacking this like
(20:11):
elf robot that's turning everyone against Chris, that's ruining Christmas basically, And Sana's
like, you can do that,and she says, please, if I
can repost ten hours of CW contentfrom a third party social platform to a
fourth party talk box, this isa piece of cake, and I'm like,
what the fuck is that. Idon't think it's anything specific really because
(20:33):
it's so goddamn specific. Well,no, I think it's talking about like
a specific thing with nonsense words,okay, because I was like, is
the third party social Is that likeif I'm reposting stuff from Twitter to you
know, Tumblr or something, like, what are we talking about here?
Yeah? I mean, as faras I know, fourth party talk box
(20:55):
is not a thing, okay,And like third party social media would be
like some offshoot something or other.But basically it's like, you know,
people who are able to like ripTV and like put it up to Torrent
or to like they just put itup on like daily Motion or whatever it
is. You know, there areways to watch really old TV, and
(21:18):
it's like, you know, youhave to know how to do that.
And I think it was just makinga joke about plus they wanted to throw
CW in there, I think IYes, I think so too. It
felt like such a specific and Legendsfans are so specifically nerdy like that that
I'm like, oh, this isa part of the fandom that I don't
know, but I hope five peopleare fucking like have this embroidered on a
(21:38):
pillow somewhere. There might be likea more specific thing that I don't know,
like if it has to do withlike actual like an actual ten hour
sure something from the CW that Idon't know. But as far as I
know, that was mostly nonsense.Okay, it's funny. It took me
back like that. That was afunny little moment. Yeah. I think
(22:00):
it was more like like something likethis happens sure, like essentially what you
would assume this is blah blah likewhatever, people ripping something, dumping it
on the internet in different places,but it's not that specific thing. Yeah,
So I just think it's a funnyline about computers. I mean,
fair enough. So I honestly like, I'm almost out of notes here,
(22:22):
Like do you do you have plotthoughts? Do you have? Well?
I think the one thing we needto mention is that I don't think we've
talked about how Ernie Hudson is playingSanta and it's a canonically black Santa.
I liked that too. Not onlyis Ernie Hudson playing Santa and obviously he's
black, but like when we're intown and Bibo's putting up decorations and stuff.
Any Santa representation is accurate Black Santa. Yeah, that's fun here seriously
(22:51):
doing a great job, I guess. My only other question is Biebo suggests
a lot of other people who coulddo Christmas. Who do you think he
should pick? If Santa doesn't wantto do it? Does he suggest he
suggests like a leper, might havebeen somebody else. M I'm not a
huge fan of the movie, butI do think Jack Skellington had had my
(23:11):
type of Christmas in mind. Hmmm, should we just give it to Jack
Sellington say it doesn't want to doit? Yeah? I think I think
he does a good job. Iam also always intrigued by the idea of
Superman doing it. Frankly, likethat one up so Smallville. Yeah,
exactly to bring it back or evenhave you seen yet Merry Little Batman on
(23:34):
Amazon? I have not. It'svery cute. It's Bruce and little Damien
in the most well adjusted version ofBruce and Little Damien you've ever seen,
and Jamien the least well adjusted peopleever. Yeah. No, this is
a very cute and loving little Damien. Where like once he found out basically
(23:55):
Bruce is like once he found outthat that, uh, your your mom
was prey. Then I just didmy best. I worked day and night
and I cleaned up Gotham City andthere hasn't been anything bad ever since then.
And that's why we get to bebuds all the time. Damien and
then Damien. Eventually, like aBatman, thing has to happen, and
Damien like finds out and gets tobecome little Batman. It's really cute.
(24:17):
Cute. Yeah, that's adorable.I trust Batman in a sled. Yeah,
I guess I trust Batman in asled. He cares a lot about
kids, but the whole you know, the parenting. Yeah, yeah,
how about you? They were allweird, not cupid. I think that
was like a very weird visual.I thought the Leprechaun was funny. I
(24:37):
did too, because because they changedthe names like Irish names, yeah,
the reindeer names like it. Buthe seemed to still be doing the work.
Yeah, yeah he was. Hewas still doing the job. He
had it covered, Yeah totally.He would fly around on a rainbow though,
instead of which make it your own. I think, so, you
know, that's that's important. Whatmore would you want to see from a
(25:00):
bibo animated something like, would youwatch more Bibo content like this? If
they did it, I would watchit. I think if it was always
doing a Legends podcast, watch itlike yeah right now, so like the
what I enjoy it, I thinkis the question right now that so much
what I watch it, I thinkthat I would if it was like this
(25:21):
all the time, I think thatI would have a lot of trouble with
it. I tend not to besomeone who has a long attention span for
animated shows unless they're like really reallygood, Like I have never been like
an adult animation thing, so aslong as it's like still kid oriented.
But if I think it would needto be a little more sardonic, like
I think it would need to bea little either more like SpongeBob or if
(25:42):
they had like a really cool hookto like a TV show or something,
Yeah, that would be cool.But if they wanted to do some more
Bibo adventures, I'm down. Ifthey want to do like a Bibo comic,
I'm deaf for that too. Thereis a lot of Bibo canon established
here. Yeah, you know allwe've talked about the other cast flee Bow
and tweet Bow and all, likethey're all this this Bow thing like kind
(26:06):
of like the Who's Done in Whovilleand they live in the in the fluffy
town of Bow, says Victor Garber, where I'm like, okay, I
can get on board with, Likethis all feels right to me. It's
not so much of a stretch andthoughts. I I agree, but it
makes Bib more like a cabbage patch, yes, or I guess like a
(26:29):
Ferbie like Ferbie's had all different colorsand styles and stuff, which is definitely
what he's based on. Did theyever do like a Ferbie a just like
Ferbie ip story? I think soyeah, Okay, You've said it a
few times where I'm like, didI miss the whole like Ferbie Cannon?
I remember like I had my Ferbie. I was very excited about my Ferbie,
but they're they're might well no,so I was. I just like
(26:52):
really remember the phenomenon of the Ferbietotally, Like I remember it being not
quite like cabbage patch Like with cabbagefashed in the eighties, it was like
you could not find one no matterwhere you went, just a lot like
what PO is. Yeah, Ferbiewas similar, like you couldn't ask for
a specific Ferbie because they would nothave it in the store. You'd have
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to get whatever the hell Ferbie yourparents would find a certain parents were going
to get you a Ferbie thing thatpriced some people out. I feel like,
because definitely with all sixty dollars whenit came out in the nineties or
you know whatever it was, withall like toys like that, there's always
like kids in pork like families,they cannot reford those things, especially once
they start becoming more popular because theprice just goes up. But yeah,
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like I remember, the phenomenon ofthe Ferbie and Bibo is definitely at least
partially based on people's experience with theFerbie because he has similar like place voices,
and his voice is similar and thethings he wants are similar. I
don't think there was ever a Ferbianimated show, although I think they could
have done it if they wanted.But I do love the callback to Ferby
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and the Mitchell's Versus the Machines.I've never seen that movie, and I
know that that's so good. Iknow that it's wonderful, like I've heard,
I've heard very good things, butI have not taken the time yet.
It is wonderful, but because themachines are all taking over and Ferby's
technically have a computer chip, andthen there are Ferbi's just everywhere that's funny,
and then there's a giant Ferby that'sfunny. But yeah, so like
that's sort of what I take onon the Furby is that it's just it's
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just very similar to what they didwith Bibo. Also being like a Teddy
Rexman, which is talking Teddy Bear. It's so funny because you've said these
two things, and I'm totally therefor Ferby. I was I was too
young for Teddy Rouxman. I wastoo young for Teddy Rexman too. I'm
aware of it. I always gotickle me up because it's culling me Bibo
right like, I oh too.And that was the first one as a
kid that I remember, like that, that fervor of of like, you
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know, seeing my parents watch thenews and there was a news story of
like fucking tickle my elbows running forpresident. We can't find them anywhere,
you know. I think I wasjust slightly too old for tickle me Elmo,
okay Tilmo. I think was likenineteen ninety five, and I would
have been seven. I didn't wantone, but I remember, I remember
the news. I remember the fascinatingI mean I would have said I wouldn't
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have said one, but like itwasn't like on my list. But I've
seen a tickle Me Elmo. Yeah, I'm aware of it and of the
things that it says. And Iagree with you. It's probably a lot
more that than anything else that I'vesaid except Ferbie. It's definitely Ferby.
But I had totally forgotten about TickleMe Almo. And I forgot that Bibo
was originally called Cuddle Me Bibo.Like I totally forgot that. I forget
what year that is that Martin's supposedto be trying to get the thing,
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but it must have been the nineties. It's the nineties. It's the nineties
because it's his daughter is supposed tothe same age as us. Okay,
like she was probably very like nineteenninety. Yeah, she's young, she's
supposed to be young. Yeah,well you have an emmy, all right,
I suck. That doesn't mean anything. I host two put God,
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look, this is a very wellreceived podcast, yeah, by five people,
by all ten of our listeners,and we really do appreciate all of
you. We can name some ofthem, Lance keV Merrill. Of course,
we love you guys, you knowexactly. We love everybody who's a
loyal listener to this small podcast.Merry Christmas. But yeah, so,
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like in terms of like the expandeduniverse of of Bibo, I I like
it. I like the idea thatthere were other ones. And I totally
would have wanted Flebo or whatever,because I like groucy things like Oscar is
my favorite muppet. Yeah, Icould have used a depressed one, like
I'm a New York guy. Ohyeah, yeah, you gotta have a
sad or like a Patrick idiot.You know. Yeah, there wasn't an
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idiot. There wasn't a sad one. No, but we only we had
forty We were in and out,Yeah, half of that time with songs
already, you know, could heuse more songs? To be honest?
Honestly, yeah, I mean,I guess the idea for me is that
like basically either Bibo was the firstone or Bibo was the only one that
really sold, Like they tried tointroduce these other ones and no one bought
them because the Bibo hype died downbecause it really only lasts like two years.
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I bet it's your idea. Ibet it's like if Ferbie was one
thing instead of like you can getany fucking Ferbie. This is a species
basically, like for me, wasa character. I feel like it's that.
And then they tried a few moreand everyone was like, yeah,
sure whatever you know. Yeah,So to bring it back to like another
nineties toy, it's like it's moreof a giga pet than a tamagachi.
Yes, where you can get adifferent type of thing, or you can
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just get the same thing in differentcolors or just the same the same old
thing. Yeah. I like that. You know what I learned a few
years ago about Tomagachi's, the betteryou take care of them, the prettier
they are. And mine were alwaysugly as sin. Well that's something to
really, you know, think aboutif I have approached children. Yeah,
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what does an ugly tamagatchi look like. It's like if it gets like the
weird duck bill and like it's thirdor fourth evolution, then it's gonna be
the ugly version of the tamagachi.And it's like you're keeping it alive,
but we're gonna punish doing a goodjob. I mean I could never keep
a gigabet alive, so I onlyhad knockoff ones. I had like a
knockoff puppy that died pretty quickly,and pets where maybe that sounds really familiar.
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Nanopets were like the cheaper I havea nanopet kitty. Okay. I
wrote a story years ago that waslike I bought one of each of the
nineties virtual pets and decided to tryto rank which one was the best one.
The nanopet is impossible to kill,the giga pet is impossible to keep
alive. On the Tamagotchi still themost fun. Okay. I did eventually
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kill the puppy, but I thinkthat was more out of neglect and like
moving on for two weeks and howeverlong it takes to kill a puppy.
But then I had it must havebeen gigapet. There was a Star Wars
tie in and I had, Yeah, you know one that was R two
D two. That's the gigapet,Okay, because I have my gigapet is
a Jurassic Park two tie in.It's a transfer, right, Wow?
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You mean the Lost World Jurassic Park. Wow? There's a good get it
says the Lost World on it ofcourse. Oh and one more thing with
the continuity. By the way,before I get to the absolute end of
my notes, please tear apart.This animated thing is continuity. No.
I thought it was cute. Wherelike the other main characters in this look
like Bibo's that are just a littletaller, a little shorter, a little
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angry or a little scruffy or whatever. But they also established that in that
world there's like rapidy looking ones withbig ears that stand out. Yeah,
there's like a unicorny looking one that'sgot like a horn coming out. I'm
like that. I like that becausethat's exactly what a toy company would do.
And then they became talking beanie babies. Yeah exactly. Yeah, No,
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I like that too. When theywhen they got to like the big
snow globe and they were like answeringthe question of like what is Christmas mean
to you? That was also verycute, Yes, because it was it
was also Bibo learning that Christmas isdifferent for different people. Some people like
to cry on Christmas and that yougotta let him cry, you gotta let
them do it, Bibo. Somepeople just want to make cookies for Sanna
or singing carols or like hang outBiebo wants cuddles different for everybody. That's
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that's fine. I don't know who'scuddling. That's a question. Yeah,
I don't know either. They didn'treally establish like a friend or a partner.
But there's like the rabid ones andthat they were so cute. Everything
was cute. Yeah, I thought, I just like that little idea,
especially again, if we're pretending we'rein the universe here of like, yeah,
of course a toy company would belike, if fuck this other,
this green beebo is not selling,why don't we put a fucking horn on
it, and then we'll give abig stupid ears that you can like toss
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it around with or whatever. Perfect. Great, Yeah, felt right to
me. What's the best Christmas giftYou've ever got, Trisha, That's a
really hard question. Best Christmas giftI ever got? I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna say as a kid,I'm gonna say, i say a kid
zero one. That's thirteen. Okay. The one that sticks with me is
for Christmas when I was six,I got an easel because I was an
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art kid. Cute so I gota little kid's easel that had like a
chalkboard on one side and a dryeraseport on the other end. You could
like clip things to it and paintand draw. Oh that's lovely. That's
such a wholesome answer to that.And there's also so there's I'm gonna treat
them too too, because the otherone's very funny. So my mom's office
had a Christmas party every year,and depending on your age, they would
give you a certain gift for likea boy or girl, because it's very
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gendered. So when I was likeseven, maybe been younger than that,
the gift was this giant cardboard housethat you could like call house type of
thing. Oh okay, it waslike it was kid size, Like you've
come to seen something like this.Yeah, my mom hated it. She
thought that it was the dumbest thing. She was so mad because it seems
so cheap and dumb. We playedwith that thing more than any toy he
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had. She must have been sopissed off to it the holiday party.
Like she she'll tell the story,Yeah, she'll tell the story. She's
like, I thought it was thecheapest piece of shit that I'd ever seen.
I was so mad because, like, you know, there's it's supposed
to be good, right, theother toys were supposed to be are good,
but like this was crap. Andthen we ended up playing with it
and coloring on it and it wasgreat. It lasted us like a whole
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year. It was. It wasawesome. It was a great birthday,
your Christmas gift from my mom's companyamazing. That honestly reminds me as a
kid, where like we knew aguy that owned the furniture store and one
day my parents got made like threebig boxes and I made a batmobile out
of one and made a spaceship outof the other one, and I made
a fourth out of the third,and I was just like this the best
shit I've ever had, you knowexactly. I was so a cardboard box
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kit. I love the cardboard boxes. Same, same, the same.
Not not a cardboard box gift though, uh you know the Ferbie was a
big deal for me. Oh yeahit was for me too. I remember
that very well. And my parentstotally pulled a Christmas story thing where like
I thought Christmas was over and Ididn't get a Ferbie and that was okay.
Everything was fine. And they went, wait, what's that? What's
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that behind the tree. It lookslike there's one more present bud And behind
the tree, like under the treeskirt like wrapped in different wrapping paper was
the box shape that I knew wasthe Ferbian. It was a little spaceship
for Ferbi. Yeah, exactly,I got so like that. I remember
very well also, like just onthe cusp of what I was saying at
thirteen. All throughout this is sodumb. All throughout my childhood, I
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loved twenty thousand Leagues into the Sea, the Disney movie Spific, okay,
and I wanted a Nautilus and theydidn't make toys of the Nautilus because's the
fifty year old move and who cares, you know. And then they made
like a model of it that wassomewhat affordable, and my mom got me
that. And it's not like Iwas playing with it or whatever at thirteen,
but I was just like, thisis the best thing I've ever owned,
and still like it's in its originalbox at my parents' house, and
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I'm like, we're waiting till wehave a house out here for you to
ship out the Nautilus, because likeI don't want anything to happen to it
before it comes out here. Butlike that is a pride and joy for
me. That's that's awesome. Irealized thinking back that my mom, if
she will never hear this, butif she did, she'd be like,
you didn't want to mention that Igot you like a game Boy pocket when
you were seven or nine whatever itwas nineteen ninety seven when Pokemon was out,
(37:37):
So I was like, no,I loved the easel, Mom,
yep, and end that free shityou got at work, shout out.
I'm gonna correct this on the recordhere. Oh. On Black Friday,
I released an episode on Loews andClark to the new podcast supermin Feed of
Like Toys and Like talked about toyswith a few of the friends of the
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show and that type of thing,and each one of us we're talking about
the toys that our mother's got usall the time, and not one of
us actually took a minute to shoutout their mother. So, like,
here's to the mother, the parentsin general, the guardians that supported us
and got us all these toys thatwe remember very well as a child.
Yes, here's to the adults inour lives for living with children and actually
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buying us things. My sister's aboutto have a baby and it's gonna be
hilarious for this oh man. Yeah, we're for Christmas. Probably when this
episode goes live, Cat and Iwill be decorating plastic Batman cows with my
nephews and I'm like, that's ourgift this year. We're gonna do a
craft. We're gonna sit there,We're gonna let him do whatever they want
on these things, and that'll bethat. That's very cute. He doesn't
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know anything yet, so yeah,no, that's fair. I get my
older nephew books every year, LikeI usually get him graphic novels because it's
easier for him to read than likea a pros book. So I just
I ask my sister like, Okay, what's his reading level right now?
What can I get him? Andthen I go and I get him thing
that either has a girl or agay person, and same, dude,
same, I was doing like allthe Golden Books and like you're gonna learn
(39:07):
about Mulan, you're gonna learn aboutMiss Marvel, you're gonna learn about Wonder
Woman, you know, Yeah,exactly, Like I got him like lumber
jeans and pneumona and things like that. No, that's cute. Yeah,
I'm waiting. My oldest nephew isgonna be six, so I'm like,
we're getting to the point where he'sa little bit of a freer reader.
But like we're not there yet,you know. Yeah, six is the
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hardest age to like the six tonine or whatever is the hardest age to
pick books in my famion. Okay, that was the hardest time I had
because I was like, what ishe reading right now? Right like,
once we're past ten and if heshows any interest, I'll give him anything,
you know, Like yeah, buttill then, till then, I
have a lovely holiday to everyone whocelebrates. Yes, to all the legends
out there, we love you.We hope you're having a wonderful holiday,
(39:49):
and uh, I hope you've enjoyedthis. Again, if nobody can find
this, it might be on YouTubefor all I knew at this point,
but probably somewhere. It's probably uploadedto a fourth party talk box. Yeah,
so of course, if your fourthirty talk boxes fail, though,
why don't you shoot us a messageon social and maybe Santa We'll be able
to help you out. But tillthen. This is the end of our
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twenty twenty three coverage. We've donealmost a whole year of this, Matt.
I know it's not I feel greatabout it. I've like when we
talked about it earlier, but likewhen we got on the line before,
I'm like, I miss you.I can't wait to do this again.
Yeah, we're gonna be doing itlike every few weeks coming up soon.
Yeah for a while. Then yeah, yeah, for a while for the
(40:30):
rest of our lives, and thendo that thing where we like try to
cramp two in for like, youknow, two weeks in a row,
and then yeah, we'll be amess, but we'll be good fun.
We'll be coming back with to Aone sometime in early February. We have
not picked a day, but they'llbe early February for those of you who
have forgotten. As Mas said,We're gonna be starting with season two,
episode one, and then from therewe will be rolling the dice again to
(40:52):
see where they take us and whatthe fates would like us to watch this
season. Yes, we have aconfirmed guest for two A one to two
with Podfather are our time Master himself. Zach Moore will be joining us again
on the waters talk about that thefirst time we did not we lost rip.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Wellit also feels right to like get
Zack in when we can on theepisodes that he's seen. Oh no,
(41:15):
I agree, yeah, you farbetween. Yeah, so we'll do that
and then then, like you said, we'll be off and we'll see what
happens. All right. Well,it's been a really great year and hope
everybody enjoys their holiday season. Anduntil next year, don't call us podcasters.
We're legends. Always hold On ToDC's Legends of Tomorrow is produced by
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please you beautiful nerd you thanks forlistening. Captain downstairs, I can hear
(42:20):
him. We'll wait for him.He's just going like one stare at a
time. By all means, let'sgo on his schedule.
Okay, favorite Christmas special, go, favorite Christmas special ooh, or episode
of thing or movie. Okay,so my favorite Christmas movie is White Christmas.
But my favorite Christmas special, likealong these lines, is definitely Year
without a Santa Claus, even thoughit's insane. Oh wow that yeah,
I was not super into that asa kid. I guess if we're going
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those lines, like I could watchThe Grinch, the original Grinch, it's
on a loop. Yeah. Somy hometown is the same hometown as Doctor
Seuss. Oh cool. You havebig statue and stuff of him or the
cat of him and the cat andalso a bunch of Oh okay, there's
like Horton and all this stuff.Then the entire text of all the places
you'll go. That's pretty cool.Okay, the statue got a lot better
(00:41):
as we were talking. Did younot like the rank and bass ones like
(01:02):
clamation? The only one I likedreally as a kid, or that like
I had any funds for it atall was Rudolph and I loved Realolf.
Yeah, yeah, that was thatwas it? Like like the Heat Miser
and you know, Cold Miser orwhatever, like no take them or leave
them? Yeah, those are myfavorite. When I was a kid.
I loved heat miser and cold miseror heat and snow miser. It's oppositely
(01:26):
what you think. It's very weird. Not a real fan over here,
fake fan, but I am areal co captain. Welcome back to Always
hold on to DC's Legends of Tomorrow. I'm co captain Matt True, I'm
another co captain, Tricia Ennis,and we have a very special episode for
you today. We do if youcouldn't tell we I so want to get
into this, but truly now,I'm like, if we ever get to
(01:47):
talk to Kedow again, which hopefullyor Guggenheim or whatever, I want at
least twenty minutes of that conversation tobe devoted to like what what was up
here? How did this happen?Yeah? I'm not saying that out of
hate, because I think it's it'sa perfectly charming little thing. But I'm
like, who, what where didthis come from? And I have a
little bit of research on this,okay, but not enough. I was
(02:08):
it was different than I thought itwas going to be. Yeah, what
did you think? I thought itwas going to be more legends humor same.
But by the way, I'm sorrywe're talking about BEB Saves Christmas h
quote unquote in universe era verse Christmasspecial animated thing. Anyway, continue,
I didn't. I didn't have anylike, I didn't look it up.
Honestly, I knew the title.I knew it had happened, but I
(02:30):
didn't see it when it happened.Think anyone did, right, That's the
thing. And I just let myselfgo into it having absolutely no idea what
it was going to be. AndI wasn't expecting like a heartfelt, like
real Christmas special, like a realthing. I was expecting it to be
dumb, yes, with like somelegends realness of like oh but that was
(02:53):
actually kind of sweet, you know, like that type of thing. Yeah,
but no, it is legit tryingto be It's so weird it legit
trying to be a Christal special tothe point where I'm like, in ten
years from now, does like somekid that grew up watching this or like
you know, their parents had iton DVD or they caught it once as
a kid like later grow up andbe like, wait, that's from what
(03:14):
you know? Basically you're asking ifour children are going to say this,
Yeah, I guess so yes,our children who we are like, let's
do an experiment, Let's make themmuch this five times when you're like,
we're definitely going to be those peoplewho are like, so have you have
you told them yet? Yeah?No, Okay, how long you thin
you're gonna keep that going? Now? They think Babo's a real deal,
(03:36):
but like it's that it feels likeone of those like direct to vhs or
DVDs or whatever animated things. That'slike, you know, if this was
the same script and it was likemy little Pony Christmas, I'd be like,
sure, you know, I getthis, and we're selling some toys
and we're doing whatever. And thatseems to be the the very earnest like
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in universe thought behind. Yeah,they basically asked the question of like,
if Bibo were real and they wantedto make a tie in Christmas movie,
what would it be. They tookthat question extremely seriously and made an actual
Christmas special with music, which isweird because hold on, let's just set
the table and we're talking about BebaSaves Christmas Episode one of one only originally
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aired Yeah, December one, twothousand and twenty one on the CW.
I have no ratings whatsoever, becauseI think there were negative ratings on this.
Written by Matthew Mala, a writerand producer on Legends, and Kevin
Shinnick, who is like written otheranimation things but otherwise not connected to the
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euro first that I could see,Yeah, I don't recke and yeah,
and directed by Jojo Ramos Patrick whoIt's done a lot of animation directing,
which makes sense, you know,but otherwise it's pretty detached. I found
this one quote from Mark Guggenheim,and I've seen stuff. I forget if
it was from Guggenheim or Ketto orsomebody, but they were like, we're
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trying to do like this is inour minds a Christmas special that like Barry
and Sarah and like all of ourAero Verse friends would have grown up watching.
Yeah, I'm like, okay,great Guggenheim said. First of all,
he says, I fear it isso sweet that it'll make the audience
diabetic, which is secure, butalso the original quote. The original concept
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for the special was very two meta, with Bibo saving an old videotape called
Bibo Saves Christmas, which meant thatthe title for the special, I Kid
You Not was originally going to becalled Bibo Saves Bibo Saves Christmas, which
I'm like, that is more oflike what I kind of expected this to
be. Yeah, exactly. Thatfeels so much more like what I would
(05:49):
have assumed this was before going intoit. And it is an incredibly like
sweet saccharine almost like Christmas Special.I mean, it goes right along like
Charlie Brown Christmas and you know allthe ranking Bass ones and uh, you
know the animated Frosty movie and allthat stuff. We watched His Kids,
(06:10):
and it is still it's not quitein this the right vein of being like
a nineties era animation, right,it's a little more modern, like a
little more like My Little Pony FriendsFriendship His Magic, but it's still like
super sweet and has all these funinteresting songs, and it's you can kind
of see like Carra and Alex likesitting around watching it on Supergirl, or
(06:32):
like like Sarah and Laurel growing upwatching it and like and all like every
basically everybody. You could see themhaving grown, Like you could see Cisco
referencing this on Flash sure, totally, but I could see this in the
background too, of like a sceneand like they could, like Legends could
have very easily wrapped a whole episodearound right, they're all sitting in watching
(06:53):
yeah, kind of mister Parker's stylewhere it's like that's kind of talking about
what we're going through right now.Anyway. The thing for me though,
is that it absolutely lacks context.Yes, so I can't imagine, like
I'm assuming this was in CW's likeChristmas lineup right, like where December first
and and just like hung out thereby itself, Like yeah, that's that's
what I mean. Like they likethey probably throw it out there, like
(07:14):
it kind of feels like something thatwould air on like ABC Family if it
were a real thing. Yeah.Yeah, but it's like it's like if
you if someone showed you like Rudolphor My Little Pony teanagement in Nina Turtles
with absolutely zero context. There's likesit here and watch this. It's one
hundred percent serious. Yeah, itis that she would be so confused to
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the point where like you've got andI want to get into my thoughts about
some of this casting here, notthat I disliked anybody here, but we've
got these other characters, got Turboand Fleebo and tweebow and you know,
like the Bibo's other friends who likepresumably were like the cast of the Bibo
animated series Quota yea quote you know. But it's like, yeah, they
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almost introduce it here too, oflike we're not spending much time with these
people a because like it's all prettythinly yeah, you know, written characters
and you get what's happening. Butit's also like it does kind of operate
in the idea of like, well, you already have your flee Bo figure,
you know what Fleebo is all about, Like it's like the Muppets.
Yeah, I got a lot oflike different vibes. So it was it's
funny because his lax context that Iwas thinking about this as you were talking
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where to the point where I startedwatching it with my girlfriend's still in the
room and she she just goes,okay, wait what is Bibo? And
I had to explain the whole thing. I'm like, Okay, So he's
like a weird combination of like aFerbie and a Teddy Ruckspin. Yeah a
god, but yeah, but allhe is is like he's IP in that
(08:41):
world, he's in universe. It'sbasically like if someone sent a ferbie back
to pre colonial the United States andit got interrupted. You know that people
would just be like, what whatis it? But I also I like,
like you said, like Bibo alsohas like very little personality outside of
like he loves cuddles. Yeah,exactly, Well, apparently he l la
(09:01):
la la loves the holidays. Hedoes that. He does do that as
well. Yes, all right casthere, Yes, the only aeroverse person
unless there's some like hidden fucking creditfor somebody in here, is Victor Garber.
Yeah, for all of ten minuterecord as the narrator, which is
to say, he says a coupleof sentences in the beginning, Beebo takes
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over the narration, and then healmost has the last word at the end,
Yeah, which is which is cute. It's a cute gag. But
I'm like, do you think there'sa world where originally the cast you know,
the Legends or Grant or like somebodywas going to voice these other characters.
I don't think there's a world inwhich that was the idea. I
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think there's a world in which theytossed around the idea of it being a
more aeroverse related rather than them voicingthese other characters because like they got voice
actors, yeah, to voice thesecharacters, and like if that Nicole Brown
is here, Glenn is he,Ernie Hudson is here, you know,
like there's some there's some real dealpeople. Yeah, they got some like
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good actors to like good actors whodo a lot of voiceover acting, uh,
to be in this thing. Andit's I just think that's really funny
that it's like they took it onehundred percent seriously. Yes, the production
one hundred percent seriously, the writingone hundred percent seriously, the song one
hundred percent seriously. It's just veryfunny. I think it's actually more funny
that they took it so seriously.And it's also like I don't want to
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sound disappointed, because I'm like,this is cute. I would show a
kid to this. Yeah, absolutely, And I think it's quality and there's
some actually very funny jokes and wecan get into favorite parts or whatever.
But for the most part, itwas just like, how how the fuck
did this happen? No exactly whowas idea was it? How did you
pitch it to the network If itwasn't the network's idea, right, what
did they say, yeah, anddid the did the network ask like,
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can we get an animated something thatties into the arrow verse? And then
this was delivered in the network's likewhat the fuck? You know? Did
it for five dollars? So it'sfine exactly. Yeah, Ernie Hudson's the
biggest paycheck, you know, seriously, we're victim. Yeah, okay,
I want to say I think thebest parts of this whole thing are the
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songs. I agree. The songsare good, like well written, yeah,
cute jokes. Yeah, there's LaLa La La Love the Holidays,
that's what it's called. Yeah,well that's what I'm calling it. I
think it's actually sorry Christmas Time Bebostyle. Oh yeah, I like that
one. And there's there's a repriseof that later which is like Christmas Time
and we could see everybody's style.There is I don't know what Sana's song
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is called, like what I'll DoNext Christmas or something? Oh no,
it's I wonder, I wonder,Yeah, what it'll be like for me
not to have to deal Christmas nextyear or whatever. Yeah, and then
that's what I called progress. Yeah, it's which is Chris Catan, which
is actually quite funny. Chris Catanand then start a little ripple. Yeah,
that one was cute, all ofit. It's composed by the at
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least in the credits, Daniel JamesChan who has done a lot of music
for Legends, so like it makessense to me. And and also Kevin
Shinnick is the lyricists, so I'mlike, okay, we're like, we're
in here, and he's actually gotsome some good, you know, power
to it. I'm sure we've allseen shitty, you know, musical tie
in things that are just like,oh my god, kill me, you
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know. Some of the songs arecredited also to Jason Michael Webb, who
does a lot of like music departmentstuff on like The Greatest Showman and oh
cool. I didn't see that.I just have him pulled up on IMDb.
IMDb is failing me at the moment. The music department has two people
one and I have any soundtracks anyway, So did you have a favorite song?
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The one that's been in my headfor the past week has been Christmas
and then the like people. Ijust don't think that that's the way the
Christmas should be. I'm no,no, no, no, no,
no, no, listen, yeah, right, I will say it's a
super strong opening, like just himconstantly going around and like other people celebrating
Christmas differently and him being like,no, that's wrong. But I do
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think the one that's like most inmy wheelhouses, Start a Little Ripple.
Yeahs like almost like a kid's Abbaversion type of you know, there's a
bit of disco too, there's abit of disco to it. Yeah,
I think Start a Little Ripple isprobably my favorite. But it's Christmas time.
Bibosa was very funny. Yeah,they're all really funny. I do
think too, Like you know whatI asked. Sorry, we're just all
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over the place because this is gonnabe a short one gang, but it's
a little forty minute Christmas special.It's about a Christmas special. Also,
I'm getting over COVID, so yeah, so give her a break like flee
Bow. Yes, who is thegrumpiest, the big old grump. Yeah,
he's somehow both the Grinch and Oscarthe Grudge and Mick Rory and McCrory.
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Yeah I did. There was likean one moment when he's talking about
the suggestion box for complaints where Iwas like, Okay, that's mcfrory.
I was like, that's just linesthat McCrory would say. And also Tweebo,
who is the cute little she's likethe influencer and she's always streaming and
like she wants to go to theNorth Pole to get a selfie with Sanda
because that's going to be really playedto her followers and all that. I'm
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like, sorry too, yes,you know, like that's where I'm like,
where we trying to get some peopleinvolved here, you know, like
I don't know who Turbo would havebeen the event. Nicole Brown Characters,
who's like a mom just trying toget the wait for it, gaming Wow
ex Edition. Yes, she constantlysays gaming Wow ex Edition to the point
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where you have to assume in universeit was a real thing that they were
also hawking or there was like abig episode about it in the Beebo the
animated series or something. Yeah,yeah, yeah yeah. Italian Italian game
Boy color game was Bibo Gaming WowExedition. Know, there was definitely at
least a Talian Biebo video game andit was blue of course. Yes.
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Oh and the VHS that this wason was also all of the series,
you know when they released. Yeah, I feel like the only allegory I
can think of for the eventical Browncharacter is like maybe Ava, oh okay,
sure, being like very preoccupied,Yeah, kind of type, we're
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gonna get this done. Yes,it's gonna what's gonna it's gonna happen.
I accomplished my mission. But yeah, there's some of the characters map very
well onto other people, like evenBibo. I feel like it's kind of
Ray Yeah, yeah, I guessthat's the best one. There's a little
Sarah in him too, yeah,but like the less noble parts of Sarah.
And and he's voiced by Ben Diskin, who is the voice actor.
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He is like a legit voice actor, but does do Biebo's voice in the
series too. That that's gonna bethe easiest day for him to do when
you actually do like real legends episodesof Yeah Yeah this though, shout out
to him. I thought he dida really good job of keeping that voice
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alive and not having it be likeawful, like like finding a way to
translate that into a whole performance insteadof just like three line readings like you're
saying. I did realize that,like he does change the voice for just
normal speech because he can't do thevoice he uses for b a bo Wan
coddles, because the cuddles is inlike a baby voice, and if he
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did that the whole time, itwould drive people insane. It probably drives
him insane. Yeah, you're probablyright, because he does switch into it
when he says cuddles. When hedoes cuddles, you're like, oh,
he said the thing, Yeah,but he did it differently than when he
says other words. But yeah,that's that was like my one thing where
like it was kind of like withLegends where it's like something happens where you're
like, well, that's not correct, but that's fine because it's probably better.
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Yeah, but there's like my bestallegory to this. It's like there's
kind of a SpongeBob energy throughout this. Yes, not quite as funny,
not quite as creative, but inlike that's the vein that this is in
a little bit to me. Yeah, I mean SpongeBob if very much.
They didn't give them as much moneyto like spend time on it, Oh
totally. Yeah, And there's there'sjust that kind of anarchic too many art
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students in a room quality the SpongeBobwhich we're missing here, which I could
have used a little more of butlike when they do, like at one
point, I'm gonna get these names, motherfucker, Tweebo, the influencer one.
Like it's like I'm gonna take allour pictures and I have this app
that turns us into reindeer and it'slike this deformed reindeer, where like one
of them is the ass and oneof them is his stomach and one of
them the phase. And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's funny,
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Like that's a bit SpongeBob here,you know. Yeah, I think SpongeBob
was probably the humor they were kindof going for. But it's also that's
a very hard style to make.Holy shit. Yes, that's why there's
not really good you know, mimicsof sponge or you know, not right
exactly what I feel like, mostpeople just dress something else. Although there's
three SpongeBob shows now, which blowsmy mind. I can't keep track there.
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At one point, I was talkingabout SpongeBob episodes that I remember airing
for the first time mm hmm,and I was like, yeah, those
were like really early, Yeah,those were like gold. Yeah. I
had to explain Pinky out to mymy wife the other day and I'm like,
where were you in nineteen ninety eight? You know, like this anyway,
but there's jokes like that. There'slike when they get to the North
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Pole, there's like almost like ajob a palace type eye thing that comes
out yes them and it's like analexa. Right. They have to like
keep asking to see Santa and itdoesn't understand what they're saying every until he
says, what is it? Likerandom? We can't have random chores.
It's like, did you want tosee Santa Claus? Yes? But also
like in that I forget what thethe thing is that sets it off,
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But it's like now playing Beethoven's fifthand like that music becomes a runner throughout
this whole thing. You know,Like I don't know, there's some really
cute stuff here and you can tellit's written by funny bit it's written by
you. Matthew Malla is funny andproven himself on legends obviously, and who
knows who's had little punch ups hereand there. But I'm like, okay,
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this is not not entertaining. ButI really was as a first time
viewer, expecting some aero verse kindof callouts or small references, even background
shit or something, and there wasone aeroverse reference and it's at the very
end. Bibo has a Legends DVD. Didn't even catch it when he's on
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Santas Sleigh. Motherfuck. Okay,it's like the only thing. Wow,
yeah, okay. So there.They spend all this time to be so
so like in their zone of whatthis is, and then they broke the
university right at the end, justbefore it end, like they had.
They were carrying it for like fortyone minutes, and then right at the
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end we got to throw one inhere. The other one though too,
and maybe like, can you shedlight into what this line means the most
like specific line that's in there.Then I'm like, oh, they are
writing this for somebody, and it'snot necessarily me, but they're writing this
for somebody. At one point,tweebo is going to be hacking this like
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elf robot that's turning everyone against Chris, that's ruining Christmas basically, And Sana's
like, you can do that,and she says, please, if I
can repost ten hours of CW contentfrom a third party social platform to a
fourth party talk box, this isa piece of cake, and I'm like,
what the fuck is that. Idon't think it's anything specific really because
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it's so goddamn specific. Well,no, I think it's talking about like
a specific thing with nonsense words,okay, because I was like, is
the third party social Is that likeif I'm reposting stuff from Twitter to you
know, Tumblr or something, like, what are we talking about here?
Yeah? I mean, as faras I know, fourth party talk box
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is not a thing, okay,And like third party social media would be
like some offshoot something or other.But basically it's like, you know,
people who are able to like ripTV and like put it up to Torrent
or to like they just put itup on like daily Motion or whatever it
is. You know, there areways to watch really old TV, and
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it's like, you know, youhave to know how to do that.
And I think it was just makinga joke about plus they wanted to throw
CW in there, I think IYes, I think so too. It
felt like such a specific and Legendsfans are so specifically nerdy like that that
I'm like, oh, this isa part of the fandom that I don't
know, but I hope five peopleare fucking like have this embroidered on a
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pillow somewhere. There might be likea more specific thing that I don't know,
like if it has to do withlike actual like an actual ten hour
sure something from the CW that Idon't know. But as far as I
know, that was mostly nonsense.Okay, it's funny. It took me
back like that. That was afunny little moment. Yeah. I think
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it was more like like something likethis happens sure, like essentially what you
would assume this is blah blah likewhatever, people ripping something, dumping it
on the internet in different places,but it's not that specific thing. Yeah,
So I just think it's a funnyline about computers. I mean,
fair enough. So I honestly like, I'm almost out of notes here,
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Like do you do you have plotthoughts? Do you have? Well?
I think the one thing we needto mention is that I don't think we've
talked about how Ernie Hudson is playingSanta and it's a canonically black Santa.
I liked that too. Not onlyis Ernie Hudson playing Santa and obviously he's
black, but like when we're intown and Bibo's putting up decorations and stuff.
Any Santa representation is accurate Black Santa. Yeah, that's fun here seriously
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doing a great job, I guess. My only other question is Biebo suggests
a lot of other people who coulddo Christmas. Who do you think he
should pick? If Santa doesn't wantto do it? Does he suggest he
suggests like a leper, might havebeen somebody else. M I'm not a
huge fan of the movie, butI do think Jack Skellington had had my
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type of Christmas in mind. Hmmm, should we just give it to Jack
Sellington say it doesn't want to doit? Yeah? I think I think
he does a good job. Iam also always intrigued by the idea of
Superman doing it. Frankly, likethat one up so Smallville. Yeah,
exactly to bring it back or evenhave you seen yet Merry Little Batman on
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Amazon? I have not. It'svery cute. It's Bruce and little Damien
in the most well adjusted version ofBruce and Little Damien you've ever seen,
and Jamien the least well adjusted peopleever. Yeah. No, this is
a very cute and loving little Damien. Where like once he found out basically
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Bruce is like once he found outthat that, uh, your your mom
was prey. Then I just didmy best. I worked day and night
and I cleaned up Gotham City andthere hasn't been anything bad ever since then.
And that's why we get to bebuds all the time. Damien and
then Damien. Eventually, like aBatman, thing has to happen, and
Damien like finds out and gets tobecome little Batman. It's really cute.
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Cute. Yeah, that's adorable.I trust Batman in a sled. Yeah,
I guess I trust Batman in asled. He cares a lot about
kids, but the whole you know, the parenting. Yeah, yeah,
how about you? They were allweird, not cupid. I think that
was like a very weird visual.I thought the Leprechaun was funny. I
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did too, because because they changedthe names like Irish names, yeah,
the reindeer names like it. Buthe seemed to still be doing the work.
Yeah, yeah he was. Hewas still doing the job. He
had it covered, Yeah totally.He would fly around on a rainbow though,
instead of which make it your own. I think, so, you
know, that's that's important. Whatmore would you want to see from a
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bibo animated something like, would youwatch more Bibo content like this? If
they did it, I would watchit. I think if it was always
doing a Legends podcast, watch itlike yeah right now, so like the
what I enjoy it, I thinkis the question right now that so much
what I watch it, I thinkthat I would if it was like this
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all the time, I think thatI would have a lot of trouble with
it. I tend not to besomeone who has a long attention span for
animated shows unless they're like really reallygood, Like I have never been like
an adult animation thing, so aslong as it's like still kid oriented.
But if I think it would needto be a little more sardonic, like
I think it would need to bea little either more like SpongeBob or if
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they had like a really cool hookto like a TV show or something,
Yeah, that would be cool.But if they wanted to do some more
Bibo adventures, I'm down. Ifthey want to do like a Bibo comic,
I'm deaf for that too. Thereis a lot of Bibo canon established
here. Yeah, you know allwe've talked about the other cast flee Bow
and tweet Bow and all, likethey're all this this Bow thing like kind
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of like the Who's Done in Whovilleand they live in the in the fluffy
town of Bow, says Victor Garber, where I'm like, okay, I
can get on board with, Likethis all feels right to me. It's
not so much of a stretch andthoughts. I I agree, but it
makes Bib more like a cabbage patch, yes, or I guess like a
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Ferbie like Ferbie's had all different colorsand styles and stuff, which is definitely
what he's based on. Did theyever do like a Ferbie a just like
Ferbie ip story? I think soyeah, Okay, You've said it a
few times where I'm like, didI miss the whole like Ferbie Cannon?
I remember like I had my Ferbie. I was very excited about my Ferbie,
but they're they're might well no,so I was. I just like
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really remember the phenomenon of the Ferbietotally, Like I remember it being not
quite like cabbage patch Like with cabbagefashed in the eighties, it was like
you could not find one no matterwhere you went, just a lot like
what PO is. Yeah, Ferbiewas similar, like you couldn't ask for
a specific Ferbie because they would nothave it in the store. You'd have
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to get whatever the hell Ferbie yourparents would find a certain parents were going
to get you a Ferbie thing thatpriced some people out. I feel like,
because definitely with all sixty dollars whenit came out in the nineties or
you know whatever it was, withall like toys like that, there's always
like kids in pork like families,they cannot reford those things, especially once
they start becoming more popular because theprice just goes up. But yeah,
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like I remember, the phenomenon ofthe Ferbie and Bibo is definitely at least
partially based on people's experience with theFerbie because he has similar like place voices,
and his voice is similar and thethings he wants are similar. I
don't think there was ever a Ferbianimated show, although I think they could
have done it if they wanted.But I do love the callback to Ferby
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and the Mitchell's Versus the Machines.I've never seen that movie, and I
know that that's so good. Iknow that it's wonderful, like I've heard,
I've heard very good things, butI have not taken the time yet.
It is wonderful, but because themachines are all taking over and Ferby's
technically have a computer chip, andthen there are Ferbi's just everywhere that's funny,
and then there's a giant Ferby that'sfunny. But yeah, so like
that's sort of what I take onon the Furby is that it's just it's
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just very similar to what they didwith Bibo. Also being like a Teddy
Rexman, which is talking Teddy Bear. It's so funny because you've said these
two things, and I'm totally therefor Ferby. I was I was too
young for Teddy Rouxman. I wastoo young for Teddy Rexman too. I'm
aware of it. I always gotickle me up because it's culling me Bibo
right like, I oh too.And that was the first one as a
kid that I remember, like that, that fervor of of like, you
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know, seeing my parents watch thenews and there was a news story of
like fucking tickle my elbows running forpresident. We can't find them anywhere,
you know. I think I wasjust slightly too old for tickle me Elmo,
okay Tilmo. I think was likenineteen ninety five, and I would
have been seven. I didn't wantone, but I remember, I remember
the news. I remember the fascinatingI mean I would have said I wouldn't
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have said one, but like itwasn't like on my list. But I've
seen a tickle Me Elmo. Yeah, I'm aware of it and of the
things that it says. And Iagree with you. It's probably a lot
more that than anything else that I'vesaid except Ferbie. It's definitely Ferby.
But I had totally forgotten about TickleMe Almo. And I forgot that Bibo
was originally called Cuddle Me Bibo.Like I totally forgot that. I forget
what year that is that Martin's supposedto be trying to get the thing,
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but it must have been the nineties. It's the nineties. It's the nineties
because it's his daughter is supposed tothe same age as us. Okay,
like she was probably very like nineteenninety. Yeah, she's young, she's
supposed to be young. Yeah,well you have an emmy, all right,
I suck. That doesn't mean anything. I host two put God,
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look, this is a very wellreceived podcast, yeah, by five people,
by all ten of our listeners,and we really do appreciate all of
you. We can name some ofthem, Lance keV Merrill. Of course,
we love you guys, you knowexactly. We love everybody who's a
loyal listener to this small podcast.Merry Christmas. But yeah, so,
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like in terms of like the expandeduniverse of of Bibo, I I like
it. I like the idea thatthere were other ones. And I totally
would have wanted Flebo or whatever,because I like groucy things like Oscar is
my favorite muppet. Yeah, Icould have used a depressed one, like
I'm a New York guy. Ohyeah, yeah, you gotta have a
sad or like a Patrick idiot.You know. Yeah, there wasn't an
(30:30):
idiot. There wasn't a sad one. No, but we only we had
forty We were in and out,Yeah, half of that time with songs
already, you know, could heuse more songs? To be honest?
Honestly, yeah, I mean,I guess the idea for me is that
like basically either Bibo was the firstone or Bibo was the only one that
really sold, Like they tried tointroduce these other ones and no one bought
them because the Bibo hype died downbecause it really only lasts like two years.
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I bet it's your idea. Ibet it's like if Ferbie was one
thing instead of like you can getany fucking Ferbie. This is a species
basically, like for me, wasa character. I feel like it's that.
And then they tried a few moreand everyone was like, yeah,
sure whatever you know. Yeah,So to bring it back to like another
nineties toy, it's like it's moreof a giga pet than a tamagachi.
Yes, where you can get adifferent type of thing, or you can
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just get the same thing in differentcolors or just the same the same old
thing. Yeah. I like that. You know what I learned a few
years ago about Tomagachi's, the betteryou take care of them, the prettier
they are. And mine were alwaysugly as sin. Well that's something to
really, you know, think aboutif I have approached children. Yeah,
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what does an ugly tamagatchi look like. It's like if it gets like the
weird duck bill and like it's thirdor fourth evolution, then it's gonna be
the ugly version of the tamagachi.And it's like you're keeping it alive,
but we're gonna punish doing a goodjob. I mean I could never keep
a gigabet alive, so I onlyhad knockoff ones. I had like a
knockoff puppy that died pretty quickly,and pets where maybe that sounds really familiar.
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Nanopets were like the cheaper I havea nanopet kitty. Okay. I
wrote a story years ago that waslike I bought one of each of the
nineties virtual pets and decided to tryto rank which one was the best one.
The nanopet is impossible to kill,the giga pet is impossible to keep
alive. On the Tamagotchi still themost fun. Okay. I did eventually
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kill the puppy, but I thinkthat was more out of neglect and like
moving on for two weeks and howeverlong it takes to kill a puppy.
But then I had it must havebeen gigapet. There was a Star Wars
tie in and I had, Yeah, you know one that was R two
D two. That's the gigapet,Okay, because I have my gigapet is
a Jurassic Park two tie in.It's a transfer, right, Wow?
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You mean the Lost World Jurassic Park. Wow? There's a good get it
says the Lost World on it ofcourse. Oh and one more thing with
the continuity. By the way,before I get to the absolute end of
my notes, please tear apart.This animated thing is continuity. No.
I thought it was cute. Wherelike the other main characters in this look
like Bibo's that are just a littletaller, a little shorter, a little
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angry or a little scruffy or whatever. But they also established that in that
world there's like rapidy looking ones withbig ears that stand out. Yeah,
there's like a unicorny looking one that'sgot like a horn coming out. I'm
like that. I like that becausethat's exactly what a toy company would do.
And then they became talking beanie babies. Yeah exactly. Yeah, No,
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I like that too. When theywhen they got to like the big
snow globe and they were like answeringthe question of like what is Christmas mean
to you? That was also verycute, Yes, because it was it
was also Bibo learning that Christmas isdifferent for different people. Some people like
to cry on Christmas and that yougotta let him cry, you gotta let
them do it, Bibo. Somepeople just want to make cookies for Sanna
or singing carols or like hang outBiebo wants cuddles different for everybody. That's
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that's fine. I don't know who'scuddling. That's a question. Yeah,
I don't know either. They didn'treally establish like a friend or a partner.
But there's like the rabid ones andthat they were so cute. Everything
was cute. Yeah, I thought, I just like that little idea,
especially again, if we're pretending we'rein the universe here of like, yeah,
of course a toy company would belike, if fuck this other,
this green beebo is not selling,why don't we put a fucking horn on
it, and then we'll give abig stupid ears that you can like toss
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it around with or whatever. Perfect. Great, Yeah, felt right to
me. What's the best Christmas giftYou've ever got, Trisha, That's a
really hard question. Best Christmas giftI ever got? I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna say as a kid,I'm gonna say, i say a kid
zero one. That's thirteen. Okay. The one that sticks with me is
for Christmas when I was six,I got an easel because I was an
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art kid. Cute so I gota little kid's easel that had like a
chalkboard on one side and a dryeraseport on the other end. You could
like clip things to it and paintand draw. Oh that's lovely. That's
such a wholesome answer to that.And there's also so there's I'm gonna treat
them too too, because the otherone's very funny. So my mom's office
had a Christmas party every year,and depending on your age, they would
give you a certain gift for likea boy or girl, because it's very
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gendered. So when I was likeseven, maybe been younger than that,
the gift was this giant cardboard housethat you could like call house type of
thing. Oh okay, it waslike it was kid size, Like you've
come to seen something like this.Yeah, my mom hated it. She
thought that it was the dumbest thing. She was so mad because it seems
so cheap and dumb. We playedwith that thing more than any toy he
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had. She must have been sopissed off to it the holiday party.
Like she she'll tell the story,Yeah, she'll tell the story. She's
like, I thought it was thecheapest piece of shit that I'd ever seen.
I was so mad because, like, you know, there's it's supposed
to be good, right, theother toys were supposed to be are good,
but like this was crap. Andthen we ended up playing with it
and coloring on it and it wasgreat. It lasted us like a whole
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year. It was. It wasawesome. It was a great birthday,
your Christmas gift from my mom's companyamazing. That honestly reminds me as a
kid, where like we knew aguy that owned the furniture store and one
day my parents got made like threebig boxes and I made a batmobile out
of one and made a spaceship outof the other one, and I made
a fourth out of the third,and I was just like this the best
shit I've ever had, you knowexactly. I was so a cardboard box
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kit. I love the cardboard boxes. Same, same, the same.
Not not a cardboard box gift though, uh you know the Ferbie was a
big deal for me. Oh yeahit was for me too. I remember
that very well. And my parentstotally pulled a Christmas story thing where like
I thought Christmas was over and Ididn't get a Ferbie and that was okay.
Everything was fine. And they went, wait, what's that? What's
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that behind the tree. It lookslike there's one more present bud And behind
the tree, like under the treeskirt like wrapped in different wrapping paper was
the box shape that I knew wasthe Ferbian. It was a little spaceship
for Ferbi. Yeah, exactly,I got so like that. I remember
very well also, like just onthe cusp of what I was saying at
thirteen. All throughout this is sodumb. All throughout my childhood, I
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loved twenty thousand Leagues into the Sea, the Disney movie Spific, okay,
and I wanted a Nautilus and theydidn't make toys of the Nautilus because's the
fifty year old move and who cares, you know. And then they made
like a model of it that wassomewhat affordable, and my mom got me
that. And it's not like Iwas playing with it or whatever at thirteen,
but I was just like, thisis the best thing I've ever owned,
and still like it's in its originalbox at my parents' house, and
(37:15):
I'm like, we're waiting till wehave a house out here for you to
ship out the Nautilus, because likeI don't want anything to happen to it
before it comes out here. Butlike that is a pride and joy for
me. That's that's awesome. Irealized thinking back that my mom, if
she will never hear this, butif she did, she'd be like,
you didn't want to mention that Igot you like a game Boy pocket when
you were seven or nine whatever itwas nineteen ninety seven when Pokemon was out,
(37:37):
So I was like, no,I loved the easel, Mom,
yep, and end that free shityou got at work, shout out.
I'm gonna correct this on the recordhere. Oh. On Black Friday,
I released an episode on Loews andClark to the new podcast supermin Feed of
Like Toys and Like talked about toyswith a few of the friends of the
(37:57):
show and that type of thing,and each one of us we're talking about
the toys that our mother's got usall the time, and not one of
us actually took a minute to shoutout their mother. So, like,
here's to the mother, the parentsin general, the guardians that supported us
and got us all these toys thatwe remember very well as a child.
Yes, here's to the adults inour lives for living with children and actually
(38:20):
buying us things. My sister's aboutto have a baby and it's gonna be
hilarious for this oh man. Yeah, we're for Christmas. Probably when this
episode goes live, Cat and Iwill be decorating plastic Batman cows with my
nephews and I'm like, that's ourgift this year. We're gonna do a
craft. We're gonna sit there,We're gonna let him do whatever they want
on these things, and that'll bethat. That's very cute. He doesn't
(38:45):
know anything yet, so yeah,no, that's fair. I get my
older nephew books every year, LikeI usually get him graphic novels because it's
easier for him to read than likea a pros book. So I just
I ask my sister like, Okay, what's his reading level right now?
What can I get him? Andthen I go and I get him thing
that either has a girl or agay person, and same, dude,
same, I was doing like allthe Golden Books and like you're gonna learn
(39:07):
about Mulan, you're gonna learn aboutMiss Marvel, you're gonna learn about Wonder
Woman, you know, Yeah,exactly, Like I got him like lumber
jeans and pneumona and things like that. No, that's cute. Yeah,
I'm waiting. My oldest nephew isgonna be six, so I'm like,
we're getting to the point where he'sa little bit of a freer reader.
But like we're not there yet,you know. Yeah, six is the
(39:28):
hardest age to like the six tonine or whatever is the hardest age to
pick books in my famion. Okay, that was the hardest time I had
because I was like, what ishe reading right now? Right like,
once we're past ten and if heshows any interest, I'll give him anything,
you know, Like yeah, buttill then, till then, I
have a lovely holiday to everyone whocelebrates. Yes, to all the legends
out there, we love you.We hope you're having a wonderful holiday,
(39:49):
and uh, I hope you've enjoyedthis. Again, if nobody can find
this, it might be on YouTubefor all I knew at this point,
but probably somewhere. It's probably uploadedto a fourth party talk box. Yeah,
so of course, if your fourthirty talk boxes fail, though,
why don't you shoot us a messageon social and maybe Santa We'll be able
to help you out. But tillthen. This is the end of our
(40:10):
twenty twenty three coverage. We've donealmost a whole year of this, Matt.
I know it's not I feel greatabout it. I've like when we
talked about it earlier, but likewhen we got on the line before,
I'm like, I miss you.I can't wait to do this again.
Yeah, we're gonna be doing itlike every few weeks coming up soon.
Yeah for a while. Then yeah, yeah, for a while for the
(40:30):
rest of our lives, and thendo that thing where we like try to
cramp two in for like, youknow, two weeks in a row,
and then yeah, we'll be amess, but we'll be good fun.
We'll be coming back with to Aone sometime in early February. We have
not picked a day, but they'llbe early February for those of you who
have forgotten. As Mas said,We're gonna be starting with season two,
episode one, and then from therewe will be rolling the dice again to
(40:52):
see where they take us and whatthe fates would like us to watch this
season. Yes, we have aconfirmed guest for two A one to two
with Podfather are our time Master himself. Zach Moore will be joining us again
on the waters talk about that thefirst time we did not we lost rip.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Wellit also feels right to like get
Zack in when we can on theepisodes that he's seen. Oh no,
(41:15):
I agree, yeah, you farbetween. Yeah, so we'll do that
and then then, like you said, we'll be off and we'll see what
happens. All right. Well,it's been a really great year and hope
everybody enjoys their holiday season. Anduntil next year, don't call us podcasters.
We're legends. Always hold On ToDC's Legends of Tomorrow is produced by
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Zach Moore as part of the Alwayshold on To podcast family. Listen to
Zach's other great podcasts wherever you're hearingthis, and check out even more podcast
action on the Always hold on toSmallville Patreon page. You can find more
Legends goodness on social at Legends ofAlways, and feel free to send us
an email at Legends of Always atgmail dot com, hashtag save a hot
to clot and rate and review usin app Please do that, please please
(41:57):
please you beautiful nerd you thanks forlistening. Captain downstairs, I can hear
(42:20):
him. We'll wait for him.He's just going like one stare at a
time. By all means, let'sgo on his schedule.
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