066: Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Season 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Welcome to Always Hold. I'm the Star Wars because just
what the Internet needed another podcast talking about Star Wars.
I'm one of your host Cavante, and I'm of course
joined by two of the greatest men in the galaxy.
We have mister Chris hello there, and of course we
have Chicago Bears fan Joseph.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't know when we what the last Bears commentary
our listeners have heard, but Caleb as him.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
And yeah, well this is just because it's last time
you and I spoke. We were talking about our two
particular teams facing off. It didn't go well for me,
but anyway, but we're not here to talk about, you know,
the Titans woes or anyth football. We're here to talk
about something way, way, way better, so much more better,
and that is Clone Wars season two. So we're here, guys.
How excited are you guys to actually talk about not

(01:24):
very much remembered season for me, but pleasantly surprised at
what I rewatched.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm excited because going through all of this, it's I
realized that this is almost the first season of what
the show is known for.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, like it lays a lot of the foundation. Yeah,
I cannot say I have not seen most of these
episodes before I watched them for this recording.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, it was fun, awesome. Well, I mean we've got
quite a bit to cover. We so, you know, instead
of all the normal pleasant stretes, I know, everyone's just
like comante, shut up. We're here to hear someone else's
voice because it's Clone Wars, and you know, someone does
a pretty good impression.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I feel like it's terrible, But no, every time I
hear it on the show, I think of you.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think of you now. Man. Yeah, it's one for one, dude,
God bless you's ready, because if not, we're going to
give Joey the green light. You can take it away, Bud.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Season two of the Clone Wars was released on October two,
two thousand and nine. Was written by many, many different
people and directed by many different people, but George Lucas
was that kind of the key voice behind all this.
So and mister keep that in mind, and mister felony,
but let's just move on here. The Galaxy is in
turmoil as the Clone Wars rage on, new threats emerge

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across the stars. In season two, the Valiant Jedi and
their Clone forces face relentless enemies on multiple fronts. Treacherous
Bounty hunters, cunning Sith conspirators, and the ever growing Droid
Army test the Republic's resolve. Heroes rise in the face
of danger, but darkness looms even closer. With the fate
of countless worlds hanging in the balance, only courage and

(03:10):
determination will see them through.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sorry, guys, I gotta I gotta pause my Clone Wars.
Apparently it started on Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
So season two is called Rise of the Bounty Hunters.
I think that is an apt name for the season,
don't you.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got Hondo, so you know,
everybody else Hondo.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
We got a number of We got Hondo. We got
Boba Fet, we got Bosque, we got cad Bane, Boba Fet.
We've got like some other guys I hadn't even heard before,
some new people. So what we'll do for our kessel
rundown as I'll read a brief description of the episodes
and arcs, and then we'll dive into a certain points
of view.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Sounds like a plan.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
So for those of you that have not just watched
the entire season. In preparation for listening to our episode,
here is a rundown of the different episodes. So we
start off very strong with an arc called the Magic
of the Holocron, and there's three episodes here. There's Holocron Heist,
Cargo of Doom, and Children of the Force. Essentially, obi

(04:14):
Wan and Anakin try to stop cad Bane from stealing
a holocron from the Jedi Temple, but he's successful. He
moves to sell the Holocron to the Separatists while Anakin
and Ahsoka try to retrieve it, and then he uses
the holocron to find and kidnap four sensitive young wings.
Anakin and Ahsoka try to find them and take them home,

(04:36):
while Mace, Windu and Obi Wan track down the Holocron.
Then we move into a standalone episode called Senate Spy,
where we get fan favorite from the Queen ninety Dollar
Padme books. Russ Clovis, the senator who's obsessed with Padme.
They find out he's working for the Jedi, find out

(04:56):
he's working for the Separatists, and they recruit Padme to
a spy on him. Anakin discovers that pad Man Clovis
have a romantic history and handles it very appropriately for
a man his age, with his fits of jealousy. Next,
we move into an arc called Return to Geonosis. This

(05:19):
has episodes landing at Point Rain, which point of attachment
we talk about. Why is it called Point Rain? I
don't think they say that ever in the episode.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, that's news to me. I was like, that's what
it was called.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Point point Rain, and yeah, there's no rain, it was.
It was like a sand anyways, Landing at Point Rain,
Weapons Factory, Legacy of Terror and Brain Invaders, which did
not release around Halloween time, even though I think it
probably should have. Fit's appropriately for that. Okay, So using
information that Senator Clovis stole. Oh, I'm sorry, Senate Spy

(05:55):
was not a standalone it was. It was part of
this arc. I apologize. There's no standalone was right? In
the second arc, do you have Senate Spy landing at
Point Rain, Weapons Factory, Legacy of Terror, Brain Invaders. In
the conflict, Clovis has like a droid schematics for a
droid factory that's being built on Genosis, which sends the
Jedi to Genosis to find out what's going on, and

(06:15):
using that stolen information lead a trooper assault on the
massive Droid factory and take it down, blow it up.
Ahsoka and Luminari embarrassed, Afie and Anakin I'll meet up
and barrass and Ahsoka sneak into the droid factory to
try to destroy it. They discover these new indestructible super tanks.

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After that, Luminari decides to go off on her own
trying to find Pog with a lesser gets captured. That's
up to Anakin, Obi Wan and Commander Cody to come
find her. In a colony of Geonocean zombies that is
not alliteration or me making it up or anything. They're
actually Geonocean Zombies, zombies and star Wars, which we later

(06:57):
find out zombies who are created by these parents sites.
So genosian parasites create zombies and fight fight the good guys. Uh.
In the last episode of the arc, h Ahsoka embarrass
are transporting critical supplies through space to a medical station
when everyone on board becomes infected by these parasites, so

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they're all mind controlled and Ahsoka has to save the day.
The next arc is called Seleukumai am I, saying that right.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Guys, your guess is as good as mine on that one.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Sure, this has a couple episodes. One is called Grievous
Intrigue and then the next one is called The Deserter.
So General Grievous captures Jedi Master Eth Cough and lures
Obi Wan and Anakin to come rescue him, and when
he shows up, he sets a trap for them. Amidst

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all the fighting, Grievous escapes again and goes down to
the planet Seleukumi hopefully I'm saying it correctly, and to
find a ship to get off world. But this planet
just happens to be home for a Clone Deserter who
has now created a family. Next, we move into a
standalone episode called Lightsaber Lost, where Ahsoka's lightsaber is stolen

(08:15):
by a pickpocket on Corussant and she teams up with
Terra Sinube to track down her lightsaber in the thief
that stole it. Next, we have probably one of the
more popular arcs in the Clone Wars show that or
at least leads into some of the more important arcs
that we have. This one is called Mandalor, and this
is where we're introduced to Duchess Setin Kreese from Mandolar

(08:38):
Obi Wan's Boothang so Obi WANs is signed to protect
Duchess Setine from a terrorist organization called Deathwatch. We learn
that Mandalor is a peaceful planet trying to remain neutral
in the war, except for on the moon Concordia.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
There are some.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Terrorists that I use in quotation marks that are that
want to fight and are working with the separatists to
try to push push the country or the planet to
war so that they can take over the planet from Satin.
After failed attack, Satine decides to go to Coroissant to
plead her case, and in the process she's attacked again
and almost killed again. And then when she gets to Coroissant,

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she's framed for a murder of one of her confidants.
She's set up in the Senate by a fake recording
and almost completely discreditied, but thanks to her quick wit
and some evidence that was magically provided to her from
an informant, she's able to convince the Senate to not

(09:44):
send the republic Army and Jedi to Mandelor because if
they did send that it would just spark war and
revolution and all things. She wins in the end and
gets to spend some time with Obi Wan rekindle their
old feelings and leave you wondering what if so. Next,
we have another standalone episode called Senate Murders, and this

(10:05):
is almost real filler. Basically Padme and her group of centers,
which include bail Organa and Man Mathma and a couple others.
One of them is poisoned, some other people are killed,
and basically it's just Padme and bail Organa launch an
investigation to find out who killed their senator or friend.
That's essentially it. Then we have another standalone episode called
Cat and Mouse, where there is a highly seasoned Separatist

(10:30):
strategist who is leading a blockade on the planet of Christophsis,
a planet we're familiar with because that is the main
planet that the movie The Clone Wars, which launched this
entire show, took place on. So we returned to Christosis,
find out it's being blockaded by the separatists, and Anakin
and Admiral Lauren find a way to get past the

(10:51):
blockade to first take to take out the enemies and
bring some supplies to planet. Next, we have another standalone
called Bounty Hunters, where Anakin, Ahsoka, and Oyuan crash on Felucia,
and they decide to help four bounty hunters protect local
farmers from pirates that are stealing their crops, and they
find out that these pirates are led by none other

(11:15):
than Hondoonaka. Our second to last arc is called Attack
of the Zillobeast. We have two episodes there which are
aptly titled The Zillobeast and the Zillobeist Strikes Back. So
the Republic has this new droid annihilating proton bomb that
they test on the planet of Malistair, and when they

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do so, they awaken a beast, the Zilobist, that they
that the planet thought was extinct and dead for a
long time. And in the infinite wisdom of Chancellor Palpatine,
they decide to take this giant beast to Coruscant so
that they can test it because it's skin and scales

(11:58):
are like invincible penetrable.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
The problem is the Jedi, recognizing that this guy is
the last of his species, they want to bring it
to like a planet where he could be free and
flourish and live on. So then when the zib strikes back,
Palpatine is just very open in front of this beast
about how much he wants to kill it, telling the
doctor that's working on it, find a way to kill
this thing now, and you can clock that the Beast

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picks up on that. So what happens when they're about
to kill it. The Beast breaks free and tracks down Palpatine,
puts everybody in danger and forces the Jedi and the
Republic to actually kill it. Zib no or not for harambe,
I mean the Zillobs. And then lastly, we have our

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final arc of the show or the season, which has
three episodes titled death Trap our two come Home. We
could talk about that title when we get to talk
about that episode and Lethal track Down, which all center
around the name of the arc, Boba.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Fet the way a lot of people probably didn't expect
to see Boba Fet.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Interestingly enough, the actor is the same the voice actor
for Boba Fet is the same actor that played him
in Attack of the Clones.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, a nice, nice.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Then you got some more work, Okay. So in this arc,
Boba Fett, who is, as you all can guess it,
very angry with Mace Window for killing his father, so
he tracks down Mace Windho he poses as a clone
cadet because of course he looks just like them all
and sets a trap to try and kill mace windho
At backfires so he has to destroy the entire ship instead.

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The ship crashes, Anakin and Mace windho go to look
for survivors and get trapped, and then we find out
Boba Fett is working with other bounty hunters, including Bosque.
Those Star Wars fans who are deeper than the Lord.
They recognize that name.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Do I wreck shop with Boss on Battlefront?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Bosque has just been played up so much and man,
hey he was in the original trilogy. Yeah so yeah.
So then Boba Fett and the bounty hunters get away,
but they take hostages and then they lure mace Windu
to another planet where Hondo Anaka is there because oh,

(14:16):
the other bounty hunter Ara Sing that's working with Boba
Fett is apparently Hondo Onaka's ex girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh yeah, that's a fun little.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Reveal revealed because as soon as she sees him, she
just like grabs his head and kisses him.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah. No, I even like how Hondo like is questioning Boba.
He's like, who's this.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
His kid? I'm assuming he's not mine? Right there?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
We go the got like that Hondo.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
There you go, Maga Hondo. He's just a good guy.
He's honorable, as he kept saying. And then the last
episode of this arc and the season, they lure the
Jedi to the planet Florum to try and trap Mace
Window again, but instead we get Plokun and a Soaka
uh because Mace Window and Anakin are still recovering from
their injuries from the last time. And basically there's a

(15:06):
confrontation and the but the bounty hunter alrest saying that
that Boba Fette was teamed up with basically leaves Boba Fett.
Bobafet gets caught and instead of trying to help him
get a fraise, she takes off the runs. So he's
feeling he feels abandoned again. They check her down, catch her,
they get the hostages, bost and Bobafet get arrested, and uh.
There's a nice little confrontation at the end of this

(15:28):
with Mace Windu and Boba Fett and Boba's like, you
killed my father, I'll never forgive you, and Mace Windho
looks at him and just goes, you're gonna have to
and walk away. And that's how the that's how the
season ends.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I guess when we get to maceon day I guess,
say about Mace.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
That's a brief description of all the episodes and arcs
that we're gonna talk about today. Did I miss anything
anything that you guys remember from watching or episodes that
you want to pinpoint or highlight that.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't know, we won't cover in the in our
in our points of view about it?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Now, you're your thoroughness was more impressive than my rambling early.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Absolutely not. All right, well, let's get into it. Are
certain points of view. You're going to find that many
of the truths we cling to depend rickly on our
own point of view.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
So I think it's pretty safe to start off by saying,
this is a pretty nice improvement from the first season, right, like,
oh yeah, like kind of top the bottom. I really
enjoyed this one. Didn't have didn't have a heart of
time getting through all these episodes like I probably did
with first season. And I wanted to start off with
a hot take off the top rope, because that's how
we make things spicy here. This is not a well

(16:40):
thought out take, so go easy on me, because I
expect to be wrong. Here are they When people say
how much they love these characters, are they referring to
this show and not the movies, Because I'm starting to
feel these this show has helped so many characters longevity
in the favoritism of Star Wars. Care after the prequels,

(17:01):
why would anyone really like Mace wind Do? But we
all still love Mace wind Do. And I'm starting to
think it's only because he looks like Samuel L. Jackson.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's that's a villany you know what I'm saying, Because
he let's let's let's let's keep going here. I'm ready
for this.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And you know, we get obi Wan and like this
season is great for him because we get to meet, know,
we get we got this a teen booth thing, we
get to see all this stuff. I remember that being
like a shock to me because the movie obi Wan
I would never thought would be this obi Wan. But
since these are the same obi Wan's I like this
television obi Wan, which makes me didn't like the movie
obi Wan? Is that why I like the movie obi Wan?

(17:39):
See you got you guys follow what I'm saying here.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I follow what you're saying for for the other people.
But obi Wan in particular, I feel is like the
most like what we see in the in the movie.
I feel like this show obi Wan out of all
of them, like Anakin and Mace. That's that's we'll go
on too that. I feel like obi Wan for the
most part is very close to the Ewan McGregor that

(18:03):
we see on TV.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
But so if that so, like in like Attack of
the Clones, if they had hinted that he had some
kind of relationship to that extent that he does, like
you would, that would feel weird, But they don't make
it feel weird here.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I think it's more so he's dedicated, like he has
that he recognized that he has those feelings, but he
follows the Jedi code of no attachments and walks away.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, I got you. But I think I think the
Clone Wars the early seasons and then you know, when
it came back, of course, I think it helped us
keep a lot of characters in favorable lights because the
prequels didn't do them a lot of favors. But we
all love the prequels because of the Clone Wars, you know,
like the Clone Wars made everyone retroactively hate I know, Joe,

(18:47):
I know, I know, I know we represent the three
different eras of Star Wars here. I hope the same
thing happens for the movies that I enjoyed Star Wars
one day.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I think the entire reason that they introduced the whole
setin storyline is to give a reason as to why
Obi Wan always turns a blind eye.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
It mirrors Anakin and Padme's relationship so much, so much
so that they have like elevator conversations, yea, mirroring what
we see in Attack of the Clones exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
That is a great point, man, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
So Obi Wan's just sitting there, you know, seeing the
relationship that he has with pad Man. He's like and
whether it's him saying everybody's gonna kind of go through this,
or his own guilt and his own you know, by
the time we get to Revenge of the Sith, it's
you know, his own mourning, you know of like gosh,
you know, maybe some regret of maybe maybe Obi Wan's

(19:44):
looking at it as Anakin is doing what I should
have done.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
They have that conversation when there's kind of like a
standoff with tal Marik and he's got or dos he
got a gun to Setine or something to Setine and
obi Wan, Oh no, Seaten's got a gun on him,
and obi Wan's there too, and to a team and
can't kill him because she's a patifist and obi Wan
can't kill him because he'll like makes the team Matt
And like there's the reveal about the relationship where she says,

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I've always loved you and he says, if you had
given me the word, I would have left the Jedi Code.
Were they in that moment giving heartfelt messages because they
thought somebody was going to die, or were they stalling
to get a jump on tell Marek, which they ended
up doing. How do we take that that conversation last words,
would he really have left the Jedi Code or left

(20:30):
the Jedi Order?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, see, yeah, I think I've always taken it as
like literally, like he was telling her, if you would
have told me to come, I would have. I would
I would have. Yeah, And when I first thought that,
I was like, that's that's kind of like not good
for the character of obi Wan. But I guess in
the in the sense of like how we see the
Jedi much later, we're like, yeah, I mean, it's kind
of ridiculous of us to assume he would never, you know,

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have those kind of feelings about a person or something.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Take this into consideration. He's telling her this when he
sees her again and they're together, but he doesn't knowing
he doesn't actually have to do it. So he can
say to her and put the feelings of like, if
you'd wanted to, I would have left with you, when he.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Really doesn't have to actually make the decision. You guys
are gonna learn something new about me. I love love.
I think he was pouring his heart out. But that's
just that's me. That's just that, that's just me. I'm
always gonna leave lean on the side of that.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah. I always took that as like him just tell
it like being honest with her.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
The reason I thought not is because he seemed kind
of taken aback when she started and confused and then
kind of like catches on and goes along with it,
and then she takes the opportunity to like stomp on
the guy's toe and takes his gun away.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
So you're saying it's like the lie detector episode of Smallville,
that's what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, kind of like that. But also I think he
really felt that way. Like, yeah, he's he's saying real words,
but in the moment saying them for the situation, that's
how I took it.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Okay, I got you.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And then that leads into like one of the best,
the best moments of this season. Absolutely, they're in this
like triangle where they can't Seteen, can't kill tal Marek
Oh you want can't kill him. He's gloating about the
fact that he's gonna get away because these two can't
kill him, and then all of a sudden, a lightsaber
just comes straight through his chest from behind, and Anakin's like, what,

(22:16):
I got no problem with this.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I didn't remember how much of Anakin's like teasing, Like
it's like we're starting to see Anakin make those decisions
in the war that's going to eventually kind of turn
him to the dark side. And I didn't realize it
started this soon in the show. I thought it was
a much later in the seasons. I think the Clone

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Wars really I really find fascinating as a combat vetter
myself of watching these people get traumatized through a war
while this's happening, Like PTSD starts while you're there. You know,
it's not like you have to wait until you get
home for suddenly to have trauma from it, Like to
see Anakin knowing where he's going to be seeing this

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as like a catalyst and kind of pushing that makes
it a lot more tragic to realize, like he's like
a sad war veteran who's seen some horrible things, and
I'm like it, it just makes it more trash. It
was always a sad thing, but I think just seeing
like b like the return of Genosis, that whole battle,
like heck yeah, man, Like that's that's what I text

(23:25):
you my video game idea, like like that's that's what
I want, you know, because that feels like that's war
and that's what the title of this franchise is. And
it's cool to see that displayed and what it does
to these characters.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I'm gonna let you give your flowers stance to your
boy Anakin and a second Joey. But I think the
show does a good job too of showing he can
be that great Jedi that they all expected him to
be and do things on the battlefield that nobody else
thought possible and make strong tactical decisions and do a

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great job. But then when it comes to the emotion
side of things, like if something happens to people that
cares about aka Obi wan Ahsoka, that's when he and
same thing that happened in the other movies, like when
something happens to Padme or his mother, that's when he
doesn't care and he dells and he goes so like
when Ahsoka is in danger and they got to figure
out how to eat these parasites, He's forced choking Pogo

(24:19):
the Lesser up against the wall to get information.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's why Yoda gave him a paddle on. He needs
to learn these lessons.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
He's gonna get there. He's fine, He's fine.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
That is Yeah, this guy's like a hot head. Let's
give him a cake.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
And I'm gonna pause here because a while back, I
think this is a good point to bring this up.
Chris sent me a TikTok about the watch order of
Star Wars, and what you're saying here is fits that
perfectly because he's fitting in. I have a three year

(24:55):
old son and I'm sitting here thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
He fits.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
What that it does is it fits in the Clone
Wars to the Greater Saga and how to introduce it.
And I've been nervous about the Clone Wars until Chris
sent me this TikTok of like, so it's animated, it's
a great way to introduce my son. But I want
to be very particular about the Darth Vader reveal and

(25:20):
Empire strikes back, and the TikTok Chris sent me it says,
let them watch the Clone Wars. They're gonna get to
know Anakin. They're gonna get to know him and Obi
Wan and all these people as these heroes that they're
being depicted as, and then you break their hearts.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, this, I think this is such a huge thing
for the three of us in particular. But like the
generation that grew up with it and get getting these
things piecemeal in different orders like original trilogy, first Prequel trilogy,
and then like the shows that fill in the gaps
and stuff like that. We now have another generation coming up,

(25:55):
our kids that we want to love it as much
as we do. Yeah, and so it's like, how do
we bring them into it? Do we bring them into
it in the same way that we that we came
into it? Do we give them like full chronological build up?
But then like there's pros and cons to all those things,
but like this show in particular is something that if
you don't know what comes after it, I think that

(26:18):
could make this show way more powerful.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, and I think that the subtle like Imperial March,
anytime Anakin has a bad day, while it's it's there
and we recognize it, I don't think kids will say, oh,
he's Darth Vader, and.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, if you don't know what it's from, then it's
just music exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I was gonna say, yah, it's definitely could jumping
off point. My kids quote it. They thought it would Rebels,
but that's because the character name was Ezra. My son's
been a name of my sons almost been a name
is Ezra, so he's just like, oh, it's a Jedi name.
Azra's cool. But yeah, no, dude, I wish I can
watch Clone Wars without knowing the rest of the story.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I'm constantly thinking that while I'm watching, like, would this
be different for me if I didn't know what was coming?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
And and it's a great I think it could be
a great way to introduce any kid to it if
they get it, and even if they don't watch it
all the way through, just oh, hey, this is this
cool show that's on, you know for me when when
dad's getting ready for the podcast, and I hope that
he does get into it. I've been counting down the days.

(27:25):
The fiftieth anniversary of A New Hope is going to
be when my son is six or seven. We all
know that that's going to be out in theaters at
that time. That's my plan. Please everybody check back in
at the fiftieth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
To see if I've fulfilled that.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Maintain my goals. Yeah, And the nice thing about it
too is when they're at the age that they are now,
like three four, it's like you could put it on
and they'll watch it and they they'll learn the characters
and do stuff. But like you'll get to start over
again when they get old enough to comprehend things like
as old as Cav's kids are, and it's like, yeah,
they've seen little bit and pieces here, you'll be able
to start over again.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Anyway, Off my soapbox, I just I wanted to have
that conversation, what was.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Your least favorite arc or episode of this season? M h.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I can start a lot of the standalonees just because
they weren't they like like you were talking about the
one earlier with with the with the it feels like filler,
so you kind of check out when you're watching Nose.
My favorite arc is I'm gonna go to I'm gonna
go with the Turn of gen Nosis. But I do
like the Kaiju one. But you know, because it's because
that's what I'm saying. It was. It was just it
just felt like a war. It just it felt like
a battle. It was cool to learn more about genosis

(28:34):
and the things that we apparently never do about genosis,
which is kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
But speaking of knowing knowing what comes later, Yeah, we've
we've all watched Rebels, so we know what happens to Genosis.
Does that change a little bit watching? Yeah, going back
to Genosis again? Yeah, do you feel a little less
bad about what happens to the planet now?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Then I'm thinking about that now. Ye actually.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Don't know Rebels. You find out that the Empire basically
wipes out the entire race of greene oceans and leaves
the planet barren.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, but yeah, it was one of the earlier ones,
and I was it was when I was sitting back
watching the rewatches like I'm gonna this is already gonna
be a better season. The greedy ground War, the d
Day aspects of it, the fact that they don't even
play music when they're landing so you can just hear
the battle and the panic and how visceral and like serious,
because it's really hard to convey a war when the

(29:30):
bad guys look like stick figures, you know what I'm saying, Like,
it's really hard to make them look intimidating and like
something to like be traumatized by. So yeah, it's just
cool they when they can do that well. But but yeah,
I mean sorry that you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Is also I'm gonna have a hot take here.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, what's got?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Boba FET's fine?

Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's that felt like I feel like that's something where
you're like, oh man, let's really talk about Boba Fet.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
And I don't know it just it didn't do it
for me.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh you didn't like the Boba Fet stories.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's fine, it's fine. It's not that I didn't like it,
it's that I.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I just it's for the season for I didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I did not need that story that like.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
He hates Mace windows so much and that's like, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Chris, what's your negatives? Because because because I do want
to talk about the both fed arc with that him
and Mace Windows conflict.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, I mean I like them both. I would have
said that gene Ocean one is my favorite, so but
since you already said it, I'm gonna go with the
first one. The Magic of the Holocron. I think that
that was a strong start. It really establishes the power
of cad Bane cad Baine.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, that's his. That was his introduction because.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
He was using it was in the first season, and that.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
One more than what you think it should be with
the Mandalor Arcs. That one ties into what we're getting
now with the Mandalorian that Palpatine was already back then
thinking about four Sensitive children. Yeah, that plays directly into Grovu.
You can you can you can draw that line where
I'm sure we're going to get into it more the

(31:02):
Mandalor Arcs. It just makes leaves me more confused than
mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
But speaking of tying into current things, this holocron is
that the same holocron from the Jedi Fallen Order games.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
It did look very similar.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, that's the talk about the Wolds holds a list
of all the fourth Sensitive kids in the galaxy.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, that's another question too. So what do they do
the Republic finds for sensitive kids, They put them on
a list and keep tracking them, and then when they're
old enough they go take them to the Jedi Temple.
I thought they just go. I thought they like, find
them when they're old enough and just take them. I
didn't know the tracking younger ones. That's still got to
grow up a little bit more government the force. It's

(31:46):
the fourth will of force of the force.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Or the will of the government. Who knows these days.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
That's enough of that to do with anything.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
No politics, Star Wars were done.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
The whole thing about the is that the Holocron from
falling or it's got to be the same thing because
there's only one, and then later on it's on uh
Cordova hides it, Master hides that Holocron somewhere like it
wherever he ends up getting it, and then Darth Vader
gets it and he gets it back and they decide
to destroy it. But we'll talk about falling order someday. Amazing,

(32:23):
But like some of the things I like about that,
it's just it sets the tone and a couple of
different ways, like the beginning of it. They're on Felusha
and Ahsoka doesn't want to retreat and I can't understand
why or there it's like, well, that's why you don't
have kids leading battles.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
She just wants to. The Ahsoka show when we talked
about this, when we covered Ahsoka Show really made me
see Ahsoka as a kid in that war because the animation,
although she looks childish, you don't really consider that that's
a kid doing all these things. It's like, wow, that
that that's freaking.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And then later on you get to like you get
to the bane parts of it and his whole plan
to infiltrate the the Jedi temple, and like at one
point and he's planning in his office with one of
his buddies that's the shape shifter that's gonna go help
him out, and there's just a dead Jedi in the
corner in a computer chair, just like chilling in the
corner waiting for them to use it.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, Cat Cat Baine is too cool of a character
for them to just have on a one off random
episode of the Disney Plus shows. They he needs to
be back, we need to see him doing other things.
I hope he's not dead.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Well, no one's ever really gone.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
No one's ever really gone Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, it's very true.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Except Mace Wind. Dude, he's really gone. He's never coming.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Back unless you unless you go on a late night
talk show.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Stephel Jackson just recently said, you know all these people
are going around with arms cut off. There's he was
so powerful. He's got to be alive about there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, somewhere just being a stick in mine.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Man. I hope they don't ever bring him back. Just
with that, I think the fan stuff is way better
than any story that they likes. Weally tell now, if
you lined up multiple death scenes in Star Wars and said,
all right, here is Inquisitor and obi Wan and then
Reva and then Sabine at the beginning of obi Wan
I'm sorry, at the beginning of Ahsoka.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
And you showed all these these stabbings, and then you
also throw a Mace Window's death, who would you.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Most likely say, Oh, that person's gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I would have said, Qui Gon Gonya. Qui Gon should
have been the one. Yeah, because because we know we
al said when we saw Darth Maul falling in half,
he'll be back.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I had Darth Maul into that list.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah for sure. Absolutely not that one that like makes
me mad.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
That I like, I love the character, but the fact
that well, I think, I think, I think, I think
Clone Wars is gonna make it worth it for you.
I think the Clone War makes it worth it.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
But he is my favorite Star Wars villain. I'll put
that out there. And it's not just from the Phantom Menace.
I love that guy, Darth ball Is. He scares me
to like to my core, and I mean Rebels doesn't
help him very much. But outside of that, like, yeah,
that dude is I don't I don't like him, but
he should have died in the Phantom Menace. But the

(35:19):
Georgia's is like, well, what if he didn't die the
will of the Force.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
We need zach On to do the impression though I
can't do that one either.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Questions questions about a particular arc If you guys don't mind,
you were talking about the Boba Fet arc. The Bubba
Fet arc. When I watched that one, I was like, Okay,
this is really clever of him to infiltrate, Like I
get why he's I mean, it's obvious why he's mad
at Masmon. Do we all sall Django Fett get his
head cut off? So I buy Boba Fet. Now, allow

(35:49):
me to think about this. Bubba Fett is a bounty hunter.
Bounty Hunters aren't bad guys. It's an occupation, right, right,
So Bubba Fet, I mean, I know he does bad
guy things, but like, at this point, this is just
a kid whose dad was a bounty hunter who got
his head cut off by a Jedi. This is a
this is a bad guy being created, right, And this

(36:11):
dude has all this anger towards Mace Windu, And this
is why he cracks me up when you act. Because Chris,
I'm glad you mentioned that that that that conversation between
and Boba Fat when he's captured in it is like,
I'm gonna hate you forever. You know, I'm never gonna
let this go. And Mace Windu just says, like, you
know you're gonna have to like get over it. Dude.

(36:33):
Why can't you just be like, I'm sorry I killed
your father. Yeah, like I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, no, I hear that.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
But the only thing to say that because you also
mentioned earlier during our giant Zepho Beast that the Jedi
were like, we can't beast's zillo yeah Zeho, yeah, zill
O beast not for renting a house or buying a house,
but that's that's a different beast. But the Jedi mostly
that was like, we can't just kill the creature. It's

(37:01):
the last what's freaking mace wind do. The only thing
mace Wind due cares about is that beast. He's like
a dry jerk to everything else. But suddenly he's like, hey,
we can't kill this animal, and it's like, just say
you're sorry, and you might have saved Yeah, you might
have saved so much trouble in the future with Boba Fett.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I don't know where both of that comes back and
the Clone Wars series, but if all I know about
him is a new hope and uh Mandalorian, I don't
think he's a bad guy.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, he's a bounty hunter. He's a bounty hunter.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
He's a bounty hunter who does jobs to stay alive
and he's good at it, so he does it. Like
I don't see him as he's like an ANTSI here.
I actually was gonna nominate him later on for Heart
of gold based on his actions here a little bit.
I was gonna open that up for discussion. I don't
think he's all that bad. You could tell. You could
tell even in this arc alone, he doesn't want he

(38:00):
doesn't want to hurt anybody else on that ship outside
of mace wind Do. He doesn't want to do anything
to do have anything to do with these hostages.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, because he has nothing to do with it. Like
he was a victim in the scenario. He watched his
dad be killed. He wasn't he wasn't inside, he didn't
start to fight. So, like the thing is, like I
buy Boba Fett's character in this, in this little arc,
and it just really mace Windw's always kind of been
betrayed that way, and we poke fun at mace Windu

(38:28):
for being that kind of guy, but like it was
just another chance for the Jedi to like do something
slightly human and they just chose not to, or at
least this Jedi was decided to be depicted as this way.
And it's like, dude, that's y'all's problem. And I don't know, so, yeah,

(38:48):
just mace wind dow Is. As I watched more and
more Star Wars and read more and more Star Wars.
He's just sliding down the pecking order of like coolness.
To me, he's now just like that old dude that
you just can't nothing, and he's wrong, you know what
I'm saying. And it's like, dang it, I don't like
gods like that Samuel Jackson. I think that's why we're
afraid not to like him, because it's Samuel Jackson, and

(39:09):
we're afraid he'll Hannus in our dreams. You know, no
one wants across Samuel Jackson.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I think one of the ones that gets lost here.
It's a single episode.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I love the Deserter episode that's part of an arc
called Selukama I.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
You know, I just like I love everything with the Deserter.
I love the concept of it. It's a cool shading
to the Clones as a whole. So that was one
of my favorites. It's one of those most memorable storylines
in the whole show where like, hey, these guys are
It kind of ties back into the season one of
you know, where Yoda's sitting down top. You know, you're

(39:47):
all individuals, you're all this, and yeah, you know this.
One guy heard it and he's like no, I'm good here.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
We all saw his wife. Yeah, yeah, we'd probably desert. Also,
I desert too, guys.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Come on. One of the best things they did was
add personalities to the Clone to make them people like
that was one of the best things they did for
the show.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, his kids, they're a little too old
to be his kids. This war's only been going, Like
how long was the Clone Wars was, like only it
was only like maybe three years. Maybe they carried on
that whole like advanced aging.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
They just they just age fast.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Because this is relatively These episodes jump around in like
timeline chronological time, right, maybe this is towards the end
of the war.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
In the in the Star Wars universe, the Clone Wars
lasted three years from twenty two bby to nineteen bby.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, those kids aren't three, you know how. It's like
there's like Clone Wars viewing orders out there.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
The first episodes at the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
So yeah, you think it could have been like this
could have been like out of to like like jumped up,
jump further into the future.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Maybe, well maybe it's like at the end it's obviously
still during the Clone Wars but we have like confrontation
in the years between Obi Wan and Anakin and Grievous,
so so they really do a good out but not
having Anakin ever like see it previous. Yeah, I've heard
interviews that's one of the worst things. That was the
same ship. But uh, but like they have the conversation there,

(41:11):
so it has to be some at some point in
this between the two movies, which we established three years
those kids are older than three years old.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Oh, absolutely, so he was. He was doing it in training.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
What what training though they didn't even know that they
were on Camino, not even knowing that anybody existed before
attacking the Colones.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
It's a plot hole.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, that's a plot hole. Yeah, it's a but tied.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I believe we run back into this guy in the
Bad Bitch cut.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Sure. So that that that that leads to my next question.
Does he respond to order sixty six?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Huh? I got a chip in his head, right, Yeah,
and he doesn't know it so he so he wouldn't
know to take it out.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I don't think he He doesn't hear it though he
a range, but it broadcasts it depends like a chip
gets active. It's weird. We see chip get active. We
also see they all receive a message saying execute order
sixty six. So are we to understand that if a
Clone does not hear those words, their chip doesn't get activated.

(42:11):
That's mine, It was like, that's my that's my take.
I would think the chip would get a signal.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, I I I thought they were handed hand because
if a chip didn't activate it, then the Clones, who
had just been fighting alongside of the Jedi would be like.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
If you're not around any Jedi. Yeah, you know, no
Jedi good.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
In the movies is what makes sense. But now since
the Clone Wars show has shown, it's like they had
like relationships. These are people like people just like, hey,
kill kill Yoda, Like no, old I kill Yoda suddenly
because his message said, so I don't gotta do that. Yeah,
So I always assume the chip made them do it
now because yeah, like, uh doesn't doesn't. One of the
Clones famously fights it. He's like he's like resisting Rex racks.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, like Rex like for a short time before it
takes him over and then the way he does because
the Soaker knocks him out and gets a chip removed.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, looky him right. He's like, Man,
I'm so glad I became good friends with you.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Another thing I like about and like you spend a
lot of time with General Grievous in that arc, and
like him the way they're on the planet and the
Clones are saying, we're running out of power, we have
to we have to plug in or something like that,
and he kills one of them, says anybody else want
to complain and they're like no, no, no, But it's like
they're droids. Yeah, they are telling you computer programming. They

(43:29):
cannot like they're not. They're not just like tired kids
that don't want to walk anymore. They literally are running
out of power and are letting you know that they
need to be recharged. And you're gonna kill him and
make him go, and the like you see someone just
like power down, he's got nothing.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
But that's literally carried my son home today.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, Grief Grievous was Grievous was was better in this
season though than last season. I just want Grievous to
be as cool as the Clone Wars movie that doesn't
exist anymore, because every other the Grievance we see the
Legends one. Yeah, yeah, who's to say if those are real? Now,
you know, legends and myths, all those things.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
You know what, I forgot to mention it when we
talked about the Boba fet arc. Let's talk about Boba
Fett's starship. It was dropped by name multiple times during
this arc as Slave one. Yep, but it was also
destroyed at the end of the episode.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
So did he rebuild slaves?

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Well that that just explained why it looks it's green
instead of blue.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
That's why Boafet starship.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Now, yeah, if they re released Django feed Starship, that's
Slave one.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, I guess, I guess, so I guess that was
Django's Slave.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
One, Jango's Slave one, and now it's Boba Starship.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
And that was Boba's Slave one, formerly known as Slave one,
now known as just a starship.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Because there's no way he gets that back there on
floorum Ahsoka cuts off part of part of the like
the wing or the flying kipp But and then you
just you don't even see it crashed. You see it
go over a cliff and then you hear an explosion,
like you got to assume that this ship is done?

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, but yeah, we can. We can just headcanon and
say that was Jangle Fits and the reason they changed
it is because someone got offended for me. I guess.
I don't know why they changed the name of the ship,
but uh, I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
He probably just tracked down another another like version of
that one and named it what his father named his.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, not even a slave too, just a slave.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Let's keep an eye out to see if there's any
kind of reconciliation for it, Like does he go back
and get it and rebuild it or do another one?
I know he comes back, right he comes back later season?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he does.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I thinks out with Masag isn't he Isn't he in
the jail in that episode where Obi Wan goes under
cover and infiltrates like that Republic prison. Isn't Boba in
that same prison? So I can remember him being there
and like running the show kind of or doing like

(46:04):
his own thing. I don't know, we'll find out when
we get when we get there, whenever, whatever season that is.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I just saw a boa fit and out loss.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Barely you barely see him, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
You barely see him for like like a split second. Oh,
I got it and he's gone.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, spoiler for Joey, Like you're you're doing a mission
in Java's palace mm hmm, and you're going through like
event and you can get a brief glimpse of a
window that you could just see walking back and you
see him in that in there.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Oh yeah for just a second.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, he's also in uh uh Falling Survivor, jed I Survivor.
It's like a post credits thing almost.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah. Trying to think of any more like weird things
that I question, but other than okay, so was Mace
wind do? Is he just really just a jerk and
we don't admit it?

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yes, yes he is.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I have a couple of random notes what you got?
And I apologize that were just like bouncing around here.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, this is fine, man, It's probably it's probably more
interesting to listen to that's just randomly having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
In the Clovis episode that er it starts out in
the beginning like Anakin and Padme in her apartment and
she's talking about how she made this five blossom bread
because it's like a special occasion yeah for Anakin. Right,
So I'm I'm thinking in my head. Oh, maybe it's
a canon immigrant and I look it up. No, it's
not a cannon immigrant, but it is now a legitimate,

(47:31):
real thing that you can get in Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Really, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Get five blossom bread.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I probably wouldn't. Yeah, I mean, I've only been there
once and I'll probably never get to go again. So
I have my blue milk, and I missed out on that.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
The blue milk. My wife loves that. Yeah, I just
use food coloring at my own house.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Hey man, we got blue milk at home. I feel you, Jailly.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
When Padme is trying to figure out the password to
Clovis's hollow like hologram of like the dry Factory, and
she's trying to guess passwords like her guesses are laughable,
She's like saying his name, like his planet that he's from,
like the stupid sod be Like, okay, keV, I got
to guess your pastor and say Cavante uh star Wars

(48:17):
uh dress ye Bill. Yeah, he's gonna make that as.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Passwords strongest Avenger.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
But then it just ends up being Padme.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Come on, dude, what a what a what a what
a goddamn loser, but.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Seen her in a long time. We thought.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
People make people make comments about anakin in an attack
of the clothes, like I've thought about you every day
since we've parted.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Like Bro's password. Bro.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
But wait a second. Remember who we're talking about here.
It's Padme, Yo, everybody, Natalie Portman for a minute. You
will know about it the rest of my life. Yep.
I'm gonna have a tattoo on my chest, says I
dated Padme because I want everyone to know.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
So we we saw him in the Queen's novels, right,
like because they started his senators together and they were
working Clovis in the books. I got this real like
wimpy nerd impression from him. Yeah, he continues, Well, no,
he's like he's like as nova here, Like he's laying.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
It on pretty pretty square jaw, you know, like the smolder. Yeah, yeah,
pretty very c W.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
He's a loser. He is a loser. Yeah, I have
my note Senator douch like that's what he is. Did
you say that on the radio?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Sucks? Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
So my other note is from the Senate Murders episode
where Senator Anaconda far is murdered and then his like
opponent is murdered and Padme and Baylor are almost murdered
or whatever they're in. Actually I think it's before I
think when he's the first murder. So there, he's the
first one that died and they established that's murder, and

(50:08):
they're trying to fair what to do. And Palpatine's sitting
there in a room with like Padme and Bale or Kanda,
and he's like, murder. It's inconceivable, bro, Padme has been
getting people have been trying to kill pad I first
became a senator. You try to say the same thing
about attack of the clubs. Yeah, we're twelve years later
now and senators are still getting trying to be killed

(50:31):
that he's up there, like, no, it's it's inconceivable.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Why why is no? Why is everyone falling for his crap?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
He is so obvious he's a politician.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I get that, but like this
dude is so like obviously. Oh well, I was gonna say,
I was gonna say, how can you see someone who
is clearly evil and still still think he's Okay, We're
not talking about that because we don't talk about politics
and Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
I don't know what you're talking about. Anyways, in that
same episode, you get bail Organa and Padme running around
in the docks with blasters and lights and flashlights, and
I just get so the way Bailor Ghana is got
his blaster and flashlight crossed like a police officer. Almost.
You're just thinking, Okay, did they like mirror Jimmy Smith's
television career, like the Guys Police Experience, that's how you

(51:19):
would do it, go down the aisle with the flash flight. No,
nobody can see me doing it right now and on
the camera, but you get where you're like, yeah, arm
crossed for like accuracy and.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
A blinding the crap out of the person you're putting
the gun.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
We also glossed over Obi Wan's uncivilized moments.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
But he doesn't say it. I was waiting for him to.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Say, I know, I honestly missed opportunity. He doesn't have
his lightsaber they did He even get to make a
comment about like don't tell anything about this or anything.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
No, no, like.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
There's so many opportunities, Like thought, he grabs a blaster
and we miss all of the mad Yeah, yeah, we
miss all these blatant.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
We didn't get to have a this is your life,
you know, like none of those kind of moments like
this is funny.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
If he just turned to turn to Sina, just do
not tell.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, please don't tell anything about this, we would.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Have understood if I don't think she met Anakin at
that point. That's true, so it wouldn't have been if
she had, maybe he would have said.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
To me, oh no, it would have been fun if
he's like, you're going to meet a guy named Anakin,
and when you do, don't tell.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
The Bounty Hunter episode where like Ahsoka, Anakin and Obion crash.
It's on Folutionia again.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Right seven Samurai episode.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
With the I don't know with the four Bounty Hunters
and the farmers and yeah, yeah uh when they when
their ship explodes and they do like the ejection seats
and they turn into bouncy balls. That's an interesting way
to protect yourself from your injection seat just becomes a
bouncy ball and you just go until it steps.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
That's I mean, at least it's fun, right, It sounds
like it be fun.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
The shows for kids.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I'm saying I liked it.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, this shows for kids. But a guy's sacrifice, sacrifices
himself and just falls backwards on a wall and says,
and yeah, no, my son, my three year old, watched
that scene.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I have another another continuity potential issue in the Zillobies
episode when they're they're on Malistair with the Dougs, right,
and they're trying to sign this treaty. When they're done,
Palpatine says, welcome to the Republic. But in the Phantom Menace,
when Padme is trying to give her senate speeches, you

(53:35):
have the representatives from Malistair who are like opposing and
they're they're giving him the weigh in on like the
Trade Federation Black Gade. So if they're just joining the Republic, now,
how is that happening in the Phantom Menace?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, because this is because my first thought was it
was out of order, But no, it couldn't because that
that predates the even a clone wars. Yeah, that's just
that's like a pothole. He's like, is that caught new
to air?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
That's all I got, Guys, you got any more more
points of view about the season one?

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Small Point Terraces and NewBay just made me sad just
thinking about him and Jurassic Park just stuck in Amber.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Was Yeah, he was definitely he was a charmer, like, yeah,
you really brought back memories. Is that the first we've
seen him? I think so real? Maybe otherwise he's in
the background. Pour one out for him for the moment
later on the Obian Show. All right, well, let's convene

(54:32):
a session with the Jedi Council and see what we get.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
I must speak with the Jedi Council immediately. The situation
has become much more.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Complicated, Master, Demberg, what do you great season two of
the Clone.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Wars outside, Master, We're we're stepping forward. We're establishing what
the show is. Season one was deaf, finitely more of
just we're gonna, we're gonna We're gonna do a show
about Star Wars. And this one lays the foundation of
what this is going to be. We get into the
you know, if you think of Clone Wars, you think
of Mandlor, you think of some of these other great stories,

(55:16):
like we we barely touched on it, but Barrass we
get a little bit of the history there, and we
start that foundation for what that's going to later evolved into.
This is the real beginning of what the show ends
up being.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, lack of those sentiments. I will also give this
a master. I think where the first season kind of
was up and down and fell out of place here
and there, I think even with the filler episodes and
the standalones, with the exception, I think there's just one
that I was kind of like, Yeah, I can't wait
to get the end of this. The rest of them
all fit. It really felt like the arc The arcs

(55:53):
flowed from start to finish this season. I thought they
did good jet putting all together. They didn't change the
show drastically at all. It's the same show that was
in season one. They're doing the same thing, same characters,
same types of things, but it just was done better
this time around.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, just to uh, just to echo what you guys said,
give it a master. I heard this be called if
season one was a proof of concept, season two was
showing you what the show really was gonna be like. So, yeah,
no animation, all the quality was up. The arcs seemed
like they like it didn't It didn't feel random and
then field disjointed. Even though they were separate arcs at

(56:29):
the show, it still felt like one continuous flow of
a season. We got some good insight on some characters,
socaus development and growth. It's still happening. Obi Wan is
starting to become more than just this. Mace windows being
proven to be just that. You're starting to see why
Anakin becomes this you know, so all that, all those
reasons are good. A lot of threads being pulled, and yeah,
I'm excited to see season three because clearly I don't

(56:50):
remember this show as well as I did, so I'm
excited to see what I what I forgot about most
of the stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
There's so much more than I remember. Like you remember
parts from the Clone Wars. You remember stuff, but there's
some more here than what comes to mind when you
think about it. Let's hand out some award nominations, because
if you remember for the Clone Wars, we are going
to do nominations for each season and then hold awards
for the show overall, which we have aptly titled The Sabers.

(57:19):
Taking a cue from Always Hold on the.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Arrow, Hey, I know that show.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Who are your nominees or MVP of season two? All right,
I'll throw out there. I think obi Wan would be
my nomination. Come on, m VP of this season. I
think because of the mandalor arc and because of where
he fits into the other ones. I think he's he's
a strong, solid character that leads the way in here.

(57:46):
I don't think you have any I don't think you
have anything happened that can that conflicts with what we
know about the character in other realms, live action, et cetera.
And I think I think he's just solid character. And
that's my unbiased opinion, not talking about my favor Jedi ever.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah, I mean, so the the problem is is, like
I kind of have the same nominee as you, Chris. Yeah,
but let's see, I mean, I guess the I guess
another obvious woe would be Anakin, maybe even Ahsoka. So
just for the sake of different, I'm going to nominate

(58:23):
Ahsoka because I really enjoyed seeing her conversations in the
episode where she was trapped with Bearss, that kind of
conflict in that conversation about you know, how they see
the Jedi order because they were brought in as child
soldiers essentially, and what does this mean afterwards? And you're

(58:44):
in because we know what happens with both of these characters,
even more so now you know after Tales of the Sith.
It's just really cool to see that. So I'm gonna
go with Ahsoka on this one.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yeah, there's a whole standalone episode dedicated to her learning
a lesson about losing her lightsaber and being patient and
like calming herself in there. So she gets to team
up with a bunch of different Jedi in this season
as well. It's not just her and Anakin, it's hurting
Plokun her and Taristanube her and somebody else.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, Ku who won the competition of his who could
take out as many uh Droids?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
No? That was.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Sorry, Yeah, our favorite Jedi.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
That was That was That was endearing. So the entire episode,
Anakin and Ahsoka are competing over who could take out
more battle droids. Their kill counts are are tracking, and
Obi Wan is kind of like dismissive of them because
it's Warren. He feels serious. Meanwhile, Kiata Money is just
in the background this entire time, but he's like a master,
so they're kind of being respectful. He's trying to say,

(59:50):
don't stop the like, stop talking about it for him,
and then you just get you get to the end
of the episode after all that they've gone through and
Anakin and Ahsoka are are arguing again and Anakin thinks
you want and then you just hear Kiati Undy chime
in the back. He's like, oh, this was my number.
Then he beat both of them. I thought that was
really I thought that was a cute and endearing moment.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
He told them that, But not of that acolyte back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
So my m v P this is this is that
long shot pick for m VP early in the season, Williams.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Throw the nomination out there, I must say, Captain Rex, right,
we we start to get to know, we were starting
to get to know different personalities.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I talked about.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Deserter a little bit where we really get to know,
we get to see him as a character. And again
by lo cel High, he grows throughout the season or
throughout the seasons, and we'll really get to because we
have a chance here. So latest, latest solid foundation. It's
called Clone War, isn't it right? Not Non Jedi Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Where now through two seasons and no votes for Anakin yet,
I'm waiting by love so hi all right, h next
we have our Comeback Player Award and I'm going to
steal the easy one here and I'm going to nominate
Boba fet there is. Yeah, do we have any others?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
No, this is yeah, yeah, because because we were saying
they come back from some other not like not from
season one coming back. It's more like someone who's come
back from another part of Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yeah, no, I would. Yeah, he's probably the only one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Really unanimous rookie of the season, Honda, but he was
there and the season before this, goodness you get you
voted for him to be m VP last season. I love,
I love. I'm gonna throw them out at any point,

(01:02:08):
did you want Honda's ex girlfriend do it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
She was? She was in the first season too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Aura sing was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
She worked with the cat Bane in the first season,
the character that looks like Lady Shiva from Mortal Kombat.
We're talking about that character, right, She had the ponytail
lady with she was. She was a ball. She's mostly
bored with the ponytail.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Or a sing Right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was in season one she
worked with a cat Bane.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Why am I looking at IMDb? I'm just gonna look
on Wikipedia. Yeah, okay, she was in the episode Lightsaber Lost.
That's a flashback. I don't know that's season two.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
I mean, I could absolutely be wrong. I just I
thought she was in season one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Uh no, season two. Okay, so she'll work. You could say,
all a sing, let's do it, do it, all right?
I was going to nominate Barris. This is the first
introduction of Barris AVI and she comes out shining. So far, Yeah,
so far, so far? What about you, cav You got anybody?

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
No, I mean bear Bears Bears sounds the best.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
There, all right. Uh, my list for nominees for the
next award, the Skin Award, is length lengthy. So I
will let you, gentlemen go first, because maybe you'll eliminate
some of the people that I have on my list.
I'll jump in front of keV on this one. Mace Wind,
Mace Win.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Darn it. I don't remember the guy's name. There was
a character in the show. His animated he was he
was like a political figure. His faith looked really really weird,
and he was voiced by Tom Kenney SpongeBob. He was
SpongeBob SquarePants. He's the star. But yeah, the voice actor
spongeb s.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
So he's done. He's done, actually quite a few things.
He was a voice of New Gun Ray actually is
it the inspector. Yes, in the episode with the Senate murders.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yes, that dude. Yeah, his face, everything about him. I
don't like ski. Who do you have on your giant list?
It's not because Window was my mind. Obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
I actually did not have Mace Window on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
I had Massameta the speaker for the Senate, especially in
the episodes with Satine. I mean he's just a total dick. Yeah,
like in particular uh Rush Clovis obviously, I mean probably
I don't think he even warns the attention for the award, Yeah, loser.

(01:04:41):
I had Teal Merik, but again, he probably doesn't warrant
the award. He was just a senator that that one
episode turned on satin Uh And I had pre Visla,
but I don't think really, I think he's just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Pre vis voice by John Favreau.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Yes, so I think my nominee would be Massameta, I
think and stick with that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
That's probably a fair one. I mean Mace Windows is
the vibe, but the actuality of it is probably.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Like do we think he's in with the Chancellor enough
to know what's going on or he's yes?

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Yes, Are you think he knows.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
No, I just think he's Yeah, I think he's just
like a sick I think.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
He I think I think he I think he think
he knows. Yeah, I think he thinks he knows what's
going on and knows are my favorite company. We've got
bad guys, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
So our nominees for Skiing our mace wind do uh,
the inspector whose name I will find later for our
documentation and Massameta. And lastly pour one out wait award
for our untimely death which our in memorial award. There's
only one option, the Zillo Beast. I do have multiple

(01:05:51):
hair but yeah, zil Beast was number one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Got his inside scrambled by that spider droid. Oh that
was so horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I didn't remember which clone that was the name. I
do have pons On here, the one that got killed
on the hollow transler that Boba didn't want to kill
him but then Lasan killed him. Yeah, that was pons
I also put on here, like anybody in that episode
that died for Setine, like Davu was the informant. There
was the guy that drove her shuttle that crashed into

(01:06:24):
the wall. Like all these people like anybody on that
ship that died, All these people died in It's like
people's assassination attempts on her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah, it does suck.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
We should have done this for attacking the clones too,
for everybody in padmes with Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
And then my last, my last nominie that I thought
about was oh, no far the senator that got murdered
initially because he was trying to make up for stuff
on Rodi or something. But honestly, I do not feel
strongly about any of those other than the Zillo Beast.
I think that needs to be unanimate. The star wars Harambe,
if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
They woke that thing up, shot at it, gassed it,
tranked it, transported it, woke it up in a place
that wasn't familiar with, and then then kill it, kill it,
kill it, and then did kill him. What a horrible fate?

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Can I Can I publicly tell a story about Harambe? Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah, the untold story.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
This is this is this is uh, this is breaking
news here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
You shot Harambe? No, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
I was at a accreditation training for that year's summer
camp at a summer camp in Cincinnati, Ohio, and we
all were getting ready to go, getting ready to leave,
leave the camp on us on I think it was
a Saturday or Sunday, and we all were talking to ourselves, Hey,
we got a long drive back, but let's go to

(01:07:55):
the Cincinnati Zoo today. A bunch of Eagle Scouts we
were talking about it. We thought, well, let's go to
the zoo. And then we said, nah, no, it's a
long drive, let's just go straight home. Run By died
that day.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Did you not go to the zoo that day?

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Did not?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
A bunch of Eagle Scouts did not go to the
Cincinnati Zoo that day. I do think that some of
us would have just been like, hey, hey, young young man,
want you back off that ledge.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Let's not jump in, let's not go over there. You
could have saved Harambe's life. In an alternate universe timeline,
there is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
A world where I'm at that zoo and I see this,
and I'm like, hey, young man, let's get home.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
You are the anchor being for that situation. Man, you
gotta go fix that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I may have just broken the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
I don't know how this is gonna affect world events.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
This has been there's no major world events coming up,
either that needs any kind of luck or bad luck
throwing its way at all. You know, you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Ties into this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I just need to share this with the world, and
I'm sorry. I don't need to didn't mean to admit this,
but it's been on my conscience for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Now that the guilt has been lifted off Joey's shoulders
to the tallyboard. Yeah, I have no entries for Cannon immigrants.
I mean this is very early, this was still still
considered canon. The things that they're pulling are from prequels
and making that up as they go, so it's gonna
probably be really hard for us to find canon immigrants

(01:09:22):
in the show. I got nothing for there. I do
have three Droid saves. All of them are AR two
D two or In episode three, he opens a door
that saves Anakin and maybe Anakin and Opiman, but Anakin
in particular, maybe Anakin ish Soka, I don't remember exactly,

(01:09:44):
but he shows up out of nowhere and opens the
door on his own without being requested of So there
are a lot there probably could be a lot more
Droid saves, depending on your interpretation of the category. But
the way we interpret in the show is if a
droid saves somebody of their own volition, so it can't
be like R two saving Anakin when Anakin tells him

(01:10:05):
what to do. So like in the episode R two
Come Home, which why is it called AR two come Home?
It's R two go get help and come back and
save me. But and that actually I do have a
droid save for that episode. But Anakin's saying R two
go get help, and then Archie brings back help. That's
not a droid say because he was doing what he

(01:10:25):
was told to do. That that's how I look at it.
But he opens the door on his own, so that's good. Uh.
Episode eighteen, we have Archi D two again with a
droid save, and this was when they're fighting the zylobeast
and out of nowhere he saves Anakin like Anakin's like
jumping and then lands on our two and with thrusts

(01:10:48):
he carries him to safety. Again, not instructed or called,
He just happens to do it. So that's a droid save.
But the reason I won't give him a droid save
when he does the same for Palpatine later on against
the zylobis on corussant is because Anakin tells him to
so a little bit different, and then I haven't. Lastly,

(01:11:08):
I do have one for the R two Come Home
episode because Anakin instructs him to go get help, go
send out a communication, and he takes his time instead
and tries to sabotage the bounty hunters climbing up the
ship to find where Anakin and mace Wind are stuck.
So he does that on his own. He wasn't instructed

(01:11:29):
to do that. He ends up saving them because they
get discouraged and leave, So that's a joy safe. That's
three for this season, which brings us a total of
fourteen overall. No execute order sixty six. We have not
gotten there yet. We will, yeah, but not yet. This

(01:11:49):
one open for discussion. I nominated Boba Fett for the
Heart of Gold category. I think he falls in line
with the notion of he does bad things if it
suits his need. He's a bounty hunter, et cetera. He
could potentially kill people. He tried to kill me his window.
He probably did kill people when he s try the
chip stuff like that, But in the end, he wants

(01:12:10):
to do the right thing. He doesn't want to hurt people.
I consider that maybe part of Goldish.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
What do you guys think Mace Window gets it for
the Zilla Beast? Then I'm just kidding. No, uh, that's fine.
I mean fine, man, I was I was trying to
I was trying to think of anybody else, Sally Ward, we.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Could say, we could say Hondo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, I mean that literally is Hondo's character, Like like,
Hondo just does whatever it benefits to him in the moment,
which could be helping someone out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
He does, which is vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
He does.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Okay, so we have two part of gold characters. That
brings us to ten totals so far. Next is I
have a bad feeling about this. I have five entries
for this. M one of them is slightly different. I'll
see if you think it counts. There's at one point
where Ahsoka says I had a bad feeling about him.

(01:13:07):
Does that count?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I mean yeah, I think that was in the spirit
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
You know, I thought so too, That's why I included
it initially.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
I've got a bad feeling about him, I mean, yeah, yeah,
I think that would be.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
And she's saying it kind of cheeky because she wanted
to like explain something that she wasn't being truthful about Oh.
I had a bad feeling about him, So it came
to me that kind of he was line So plus
five Episode seven, Anakin says it, Episode eight, Ahsoka says it,
Episode eleven, Ahsoka says it, Episode eighteen, Mace Windu says it,

(01:13:41):
and episode nineteen, Chancellor Palpatine says it. I have a
bad feeling about this from Palpatine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Ooh hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
That's five, which brings us to a total of seventeen.
Still feels low, it does. I mean we're on our
sixty sixth episode of the podcast What Yes, Episode execute,
episode sixty six. I didn't track any lost limbs. I mean,

(01:14:11):
I know, like some legs got cut off those Assassin droids.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Droids don't count, yeah, except for Grievous. Except for Grievous
and Revenge of the Sith that will count.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah, the zombie ge noceans were already dead, so those
don't count.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Ah, I don't I think? Yeah, I can't think of
anything off to my head.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, no lost limbs, no Mask of the Sith, not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
May the Force be with you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
We have two entries the entire season.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
The entire season. It was only said twice, once an
episode five by Mace Windu and once an episode nine
by Master Galia, the female Jedi. That wasn't that one,
So two brings us to twenty eight total. Next, we
have monster attacks. I have six monster attacks, and now

(01:15:10):
in some of these episodes, people were attacked multiple times.
I only tracked once per episode. Zombie gene Oceans they
attack multiple times. I'm only county at once. But the
zillobst attacked in multiple episodes, So that's gonna get one
for each episode because the Empire or the Zillobeast strikes
back was the name of the episode. Okay, so we
have plus one for episode seven for the Zombie Geneoceans,

(01:15:33):
plus one for episode eight for the gene Ocean parasites
that attack Episode thirteen for the Assassin droids, and let
me tell you those are creepy. The spider looking things. Yeah,
and then like you kill the big one and then
a ton of small ones come out. That's creepy. Plus
one for episode eighteen and nineteen for the Zillobeast, and
then plus one for episode twenty one for the gun

(01:15:54):
darks that attack. R two D two six brings us
to thirty two. I did not track anybody screaming noything.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
It's coming up my like like memembor like like nothing
that's memorable, like I can I can tell you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
And I was paying attention, paying attention for all this stuff,
so I think I would I would have attracked if
somebody had screamed up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
All right, uh, no one's ever really gone, And I'm
gonna put these up for discussion here. The first one
I think is definite is cad Bane because at the
end of that episode, they they make it really seem
like the he got killed on that ship, not that
he took the troopers armor and came as the trooper.
So they made you think cad Baine was dead, So

(01:16:39):
no one's ever really gone because he wasn't Admiral Trench.
So that episode with the stealth ship where you Lauren
sees that guy that he had fought previously, the like
the super Technician, they established that they thought he was dead.
They thought he had died on that battle where he'd
gone against the Lauren previously. So that's what no one's
ever really gone because they thought he was dead they

(01:17:00):
came back. And then the other one would be the
Zillo the Zillo Beasts, because they thought he was dead
but he came back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Yeah, they thought that that he had that they were extinct.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
The uh the Suboba people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
The Dougs. Yeah yeah, feet for hands. Hey, so is
is that another one too? Is you know how the
the the Jedi had convinced them that they were going
to kill the beast, but really they just knocked him
out cold so that they can take him. But the
Dougs thought he was dead. Does that count? Oh, I'll

(01:17:37):
take it. I think that's the spirit of the rule. Yeah, yeah,
spirit of the rule. Yeah. All right, So we get
two for the Zillo Beast in the episode. So that's
a total of four, which brings us to sixteen. No
one's ever really gone. Next, we have pitfalls. Now this
is a little hard no in this show, because these
Jedis are jumping around everywhere. I did catch track two

(01:18:02):
of them, though, uh the first one was an episode eleven.
So that's the Lightsaber Lost episode. That's where Ahsoka's chasing
the let me let me say this right, the Terrellian
Django jumper, the one that stole her lightsaber. So she's
chasing around. There's at one point where she's on top
of like a billboard and then falls off the billboard

(01:18:24):
and falls. It happens to catch herself on this billboard
of Palpatine's fewing propaganda. Yeah, so because she like fell
and caught herself off a large distance, I figure that's fall.
And then the other one I counted was Obi Wan
on Concordia the Moon of Mandalor where he's being strung
up and then he gets over the compactor and he drops.

(01:18:45):
And the only reasoning because Setine kicked that little bucket
over there for him to stand on and jump up,
so like he falls pitfall, right, Yeah, survives should have
died if he fell into the compactor. It wasn't It
wasn't like too far compared to other ones.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
But I mean, I guess if if we wanted to
wanted to pad our stats and sure, but I guess
I guess that that that's kind we're kind of reaching
for that one, right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
All right, we'll just do the first one, right, So
plus one, that's sixteen pitfalls. And lastly, I tracked three
super weapons. So in episode six you had the applete
titled super Tanks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Yes, yes, right awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
In episode sixteen, you had the stealth ship. Yeah, that
was one of a kind. There's only one. And then
episode eighteen, the Zillaby's episode, those electro proton bombs that
destroy all the droids. So that's three. That brings us
to eight. Okay, Yeah, and that was our lengthy teleyboard session.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
And we all appreciate you for Yeah, man, you do
keeping very close watch.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
I'm serious. That's that's very much appreciated. Well, thank you.
I enjoy it. I I hope people listening are enjoying
this kind of stuff too. All right, keV make us laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Okay, guys, So I was having a heart time finding
a joke, so we actually asked, we actually asked Ai
uh chat gbt to be to be exactly correct, yes,
to come up with a Star Wars joke for me.
So this is a Star Wars joke created entirely by AI.
Take that as you will. Okay, guys, Ready, what do
you call a pirate droid?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I don't know. C three po.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
No, you call it are too detailed. We're doomed, everyone,
We're doomed. Oh my god, there's so many more. We're doomed, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
AI. Yeah, look, AI just stole my job.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
It happened.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
It happened.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
You've become the very threat you've sort of destroyed. All right,
we'll be back talking Clone Wars season three, but until then,
May the Forest be with you and Always hold on
to Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
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