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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome to Always Hold On to Star Wars, because just
what the Internet needed was another podcast talking about Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm one of your hosts, Joey.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
And today we have the other usual co hosts, Cavante
hey Man and Chris hey you.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Guys, yeah, Joey, Joey.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Does he get it yet?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Does he get it yet?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I had did not do my homework.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh man, you fail?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh I will. I will be doing my homework before
the end of the show.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yes, man, No, you got don't worry about it, man, don'torry.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
But it's a great I was sitting there.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I was sitting there watching it about twenty minutes ago,
and I was like, oh, no, I do.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah. Of course those guys won't bring it up, you know,
soon as we do.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Kelating Crew episode three.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yes, yeah, man, episode three. This show is good.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Sorry, I I don't need to bury the hatchet Bett.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Bury the lead.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm just fixing up figures of speech right now. But anyway,
that's the show's good.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's I guess.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Bearing the hatchet with the acolyte right now a Star Wars,
right I guess.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
So, no, it's it's it's it's been a pleasant surprise
that was needed right around the holidays. Obviously, we're only
three episodes in. It has plenty of chances still blowed
us up. But uh well, I guess when we get
into it, I can kind of guess making sure. Robert,
I think we all put pretty confident this is gonna
gonna gonna keep keep keep this up.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
I think so after the first two episodes of the Accolade,
we were still pretty like, oh, this is good.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Episode three is where that one kind of yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I think the trajectory that this one's on and the
type of storytelling that we're getting kind of leads to
prove to us that this might actually be okay yeah,
oh yeah, unless there's unless we don't we unless we
really don't like the end like resolution.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I guess no, yeah, I know, whatever they whatever they
take it to.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
So far, there doesn't seem to like whatever the story
is gonna be, I feel like it's gonna be fine
because it doesn't seem like it's gonna mess with anything.
It's just a story in Star Wars, which I hope
it just is. I mean, like like I said last episode.
If it if it connects to something, then okay, fine.
But like, because it's so isolated, I'm not really worried
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about what they're gonna do, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh, absolutely, I'm so. I was actually kind of grateful
that the X Wing pilot wasn't a normal guy.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, Carson Teva. I was expecting. Yeah, that's what I
was expecting.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Which that would have been fine if it was. That
would not have been a big deal if it was him.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, But the fact that it wasn't, it was just
kind of like, cool, we're just hanging out in this era.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Remind me to talk about that x waing chase and
why why why I'm confident with this show being all right,
which I'm sure we'll you know, but put a pin
in that one for that to.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
The people out there that that might just be listening
to us because they love listening to us without actually
watching the show.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Because there's probably so many of those.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So many, so, so, so many single people.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Let's let you know, let's let them know what happened
in the episode. Yeah, and then we'll we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Let's do it. Let's get into the Castle.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Rundown Skeleton Crew Episode three, very interesting as an astrogation
problem well, released on December tenth, twenty twenty four. It
was written by Christopher Ford and John Watts and directed
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by David Lowry. On at Atton, Wendell Farah, Neil's mother Numa,
and Kb's parents Marie and Gary.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
They're spelled the.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Same way, just with different letters, which we didn't know
these names there in the description, but anyways, they're told
by a security droid that due to the kids going
past the barrier, it is out of the jurisdiction of
the droids. Meanwhile, Jod helps the kids escape the brig,
but they refuse to leave without SM thirty three, forcing
him to go back and rescue him. They outwit the
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pirates and flee. Fern refuses to trust Jod, Wim and
Neil are convinced that he's real Jedi, and KB reluctantly
admits that he's their only hope of getting home. Jod
takes the kids to a moon to meet his friend Kim,
who is a map expert, but even he doesn't trust.
Kim refers to Jod as Crimson Jack before revealing that
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at Atton is among a series of legendary planets that
have protected themselves with a barrier. She prints the coordinates,
but Job realizes she was stalling for time for the
authorities to arrive and forces the kids to flee. Jod
finally admits that he's not a Jedi, but agrees that
they must work together to get what they want and
escape the authorities to their next destination. When X Wing
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commander Kent asks where the kids went, Kim states, if
I told you, you wouldn't believe me.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Did he admit that he wasn't a Jedi or did
he just say I never told you I was.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
That is exactly what he said. The kids said he
was a Jedi. He's like, yeah, sure, whatever, kids.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He's moved on. He never he never acknowledged it. He
just moved on.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But I don't I don't know. I think he could
still don't know. I'm holding on hope, but I'm starting
to get into my point of view.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I can't think of anything
else really that was left out, do you guys?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Nope.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
This was an exposition heavy episode, but in a way
that we really needed to give us the background about
where at at and is, what it is and what
time period they think they're in.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, it's almost like this one's kind of like an immerse,
a little mystery to it. We're learning a little bit
more as we go, and it's unfailing itself kind of naturally.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I feel a shot of another show coming on.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
This is my healing journey, This is your healing journey.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, I mean, let's look, this is a fun episode
to talk about. So, I mean, Chris, Joe, you got
to get into a third point of view. Do it.
Let's do it all right.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Look, you're going to find that many of the truths
we cling to depend rickly on our own point of view.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So let's go into that next wing thing.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, I mean, so the XT main point is a
smaller part of a larger narrative of the show that
I'm really really enjoying, and I want to hear you
guys thoughts on it. This show answers questions naturally as
the show goes on, and I'm really appreciative of that.
I am often a person who was like, you know,
because the nature of what we do as a hobby
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and just the nature have my mind works is I'm
watching shows, I'm working through the story alongside it and
I'll ask questions like why are these X Wings have
an issue shooting down these kids? You know? And then
like the pilot's office is like, we couldn't risk it
with the kids in it. It's like, oh, thanks for
telling me that makes sense, Or like Crimson Jack being like,
you know, I used the Force and they're like, there's
a lot of ways you can do that that's not
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necessarily the Force, or that doesn't mean you're a Jedi.
Like I just love that the show is reacting in
like genuine ways instead of keeping a narrative for the
narrative's sake, or.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
The example when when they escape the brig and they
ask him, well, if you could, if you could get
out of there, why haven't you done it.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yet, which is something we asked last episode. Yeah, yeah,
and they were He was like, why would I get
out if I don't have a ship to leave? Like
you know what, that makes sense?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
So I just I'm really and that's just I think
a good writing in a well planned out story, like
they have an idea where they're doing. That wasn't a
shot that was just Star Wars. Are you guys watching
this with with with anybody in your family. You guys
just watching nobouy yourself by myself.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I'm watching with people in the room who are not
watching that.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Trust me, I know what that feels like. I'm watching
this with with my boys and Solomon I soon to
be ten year old. Oh my god, I'm old. I
am watching him like really like I've watched We've watched
the Star Wars movies. You know, we've watched Clone Wars.
I am watching him really like be like, this is
what Star Wars is like, it feels this feels like
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Star Wars to him. There's he's seeing crazy creatures, his
high jinks, there's some steaks, but it's never like too dark,
too low, like it's just I don't know, it's just
it's been a really fun, just like needed thing for
me with my Star Wars fandom. I needed some levity
in my Star Wars fandom, and this is just coming
to perfect time. So I'm just really thankful for that.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Speaking of the of the x Wing Chase, I had
such a blast watching these kids get up in to
all the gunning stations and how excited whim was to
like be able to fire like ferns, Like what are
we doing? Then she gets up there even she she
was having fun.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
But it's also like.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
I'm rooining for these kids to do a good job
and have fun, but also like you don't want them
to shoot the good guys, like the X Wing pilots
aren't bad.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think it's just so fun that like these are us, right,
like this is us if we ever stumbled upon this
ship at that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean even now, let's be real and yeah, it's
just fun. I I I I don't have a whole
lot of analysis.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm just having fun. Like this show could do. It
could have big twists and turns, like I like that
we're guessing about h Jack.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
What's what's the nickname?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Crimson Jack?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Crimson Jack.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
He's Silvo John would have Crimson Jack. So we got
three names for this guy now, which I wonder if
any of them are real.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, it could be this big twist. He could be
a Jedi, he could be just like a loser, like
he could be anything, and I don't care. It's just
it's fun right now. If this ends up connecting anything
in a cool way, that'd be cool. If it doesn't,
that'd still be cool, because it seems like it's just
gonna be a fun story, and I'm just like here
for the ride. I don't feel the need to jump
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too far ahead.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'm just I'm just here.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Do you know what I hope he is because one
watching this this episode in particular, because this is the
most jew Laws had to do so far in the show.
He's such a lovely actor, and he does such a
great job of playing off these kids, and like he
just seems to fit really well in this, you know,
even though he's like a pretty established actor coming into
Star Wars. Yeah, which is the trend now, but that
always hasn't been you know, like big actors didn't really
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do this. The thing about him that I really hope
is what the wonderful ol Lady Creature called him. She
said he's a scoundrel, and I was like, yeah, I'm
fine with Crimson Jack or whoever whatever's name is just
being a seemingly four cential scoundrel, which is a really
cool concept that I don't know homes gotten so far
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in Star Wars, And uh, yeah, I don't mind seeing
like a heart of gold scoundrel that we can fall
in love with again, because those characters haven't I mean,
like they've tried to make those characters. I think Paul
Dammon was supposed to be that, but he wasn't, you know,
so like, I'm kind of looking forward to who this
character is adding himself to, like the mythos in the
character Lords of Star Wars. I'm pretty i'mrett, I'm pretty
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down with them. I really liked us getting a shot
back at ADM with the parents, yeah, showing that they
actually do give a crap about the kids, and they
had very natural reactions. I think the three of us
if our kids had been taken away on some spaceship,
we'd be probably reacting the same way. I don't know
if I would have quite been sitting there in silence,
like he knows something, right, guys, Like he knows something
we don't, right.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Part of the great what the greatat work? The great work?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, he's you know, his dad seems to know something
because everyone else reacted, you know, as you expect. He's
been really stoic the whole time, kind of like a
oh no, it's happened, or oh no, you know what
we feared has come to pass. I don't know, but
learning about these planets and how at Atan is the
laugh of these hidden planets which that's a cool concept
that I haven't really thought or heard of in Star
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Wars that I'm excited about these hidden planets and why
and just seeing more of the pirate creatures and all
this things. Like, I don't know, it's just this feels
it's hitting my nostalgic millennial brain in the right kind
of you know, moments, and it's been a treat. But yeah,
it's not much to analyze other than just talk about
how much I'm enjoying it. So I don't know what
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good conversation that makes.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But I think there is a lot to analyze about
the owl Lady Kim Kim.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Yeah it's kh apostrophe, y mm, but they say Kim okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Kim Kim. I want to know what she does for
a living.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I wanted it looks like she's like an astronomer.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, that is just so cool, Like I want to know.
I'm really upset that he shot that computer.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I mean, this is the first time we've seen a
species or creature. What's the proper way of saying this now, Chrispies.
I also laughed to myself harder than I should have
when I was like, we don't know who she is
and I didn't realize I kind of but but uh Jedi,
I'm a Gundi anyway. Yeah, like just just just stuff
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like that. It's cool, man. The exposition was great. I
loved uh the uh data. I'm gonna keep calling her
what what is? What is not Fern? What is Fern's friends?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Maybe?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Sorry? Yeah, I promise you about the last episode, I'll
have the name down. But like she's skeptical of Crimson
jack Job whatever his name is, because she's like, I've
calculated the odds, and he's like, you can't always you know,
like just you know, we saw a clone trooper and
like that's just like these little nods. It's like, yeah,
that that feels like Star Wars.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
We know we saw battle Droid. Sorry, yeah, clone trooper.
Sorry guys, everybody calmed down. Listeners. I've been to say.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Battle Droid, which the Battle Droid would have talked.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
He probably would say Roger, Roger.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
One of them did when they say did we win?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
My son was My son was playing at the time.
I thought it said I did nothing happened. That's even
better watch it.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Uh, you know they had to go back and get
Get get the droid who So, okay, I do have
a question about this because this is something that was
confused about. Maybe you got the clarified. As for me,
assuming that Crimson jack it was the pirate captain we
saw in the beginning, I think we all kind of
feel that from the ship that they are on was
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not that ship that he got mutineed on. Correct, this
is a different ship.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
No, No, okay, yeah, this is on add buried underneath
the ground long enough that nobody even knew it was there.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So okay, okay, yeah, because like I was, for some
reason I thought that that may have been their ship,
that they may have reached there but somehow got lost.
I don't know, but I was confused why the droid
didn't immediately recognize But that that explains why he doesn't
know who Jackie is because Jacket, yeah, he doesn't known mether. Okay,
that was the only like question I think I had.
But everything like it's just tight. Everything feels tight, like
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everything has an explanation so far other than what you're
not supposed to know.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
You know that interaction between sme and or S thirty three, Yeah,
and it's me Jo jod Non I like Crimson Jacket.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I want to call him Crimson.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I like call him Crimson Jack.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yeah. Yeah, where they're talking and then he's like, what
is the ship? Like I thought we were going to
get like a name of it. Yeah, yeah, I was
hoping so too, but no, not yet.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
At least they'll probably name it by the end. You know, how.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Cute was it when they're uh, when he's eating the
food and the kids are just like staring at it,
He's like, there's more in the pot.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
There's more in the pot. Oh my god, dude, more
kids were so hungry. Dude. Yeah. And in my favorite part,
and I think the I think the three dads here
are going to I'm not even tired cut to her
being completely asleep. I was like, yeah, you know, just
stuff like that. Like even my kids laughed party Like
yet we do be doing that, dad. I'm like, I know,
like it's just funny.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
I like Neil's little snores.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's like, yeah, Trunk, it's saying, dude, Neil. Like Nil's
flying the ship and they're like Neil and he's like
flying it horribly. And then they put them in the
gun pilots and like you see Fern get in it
and she looks up there and then you just look
back and the smile on his face as he runs
up to this gun to seemingly shoot down and next way,
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I was like, you guys are a little too excited
to shoot down these X wings. Man. I don't know
how they have done this, because this has all the
ingredients to like, not be liked by a lot of
Star Wars fans. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and somehow,
I mean, I look, one of the best things I've
done in my life has gotten off social media. Like
I it's I I feel like I'm a kid again. Really,
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I don't know what's going on in the world, and
I'm happy with that. But uh, I haven't even with
the like exposure I do have to the world seem
like any kind of vitrell or hate towards this. Everyone's
seemingly like this is good, and it's kind of weird
that we're shocked, you know, we've been hurt too many times.
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The video game of Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
just came out and like people were like, and it's good, y'all,
what like it's good? Like, yeah, it's really good. And
I played it and it's good. So it's just weird
seeing a Star Wars thing that has all the potential
to like be hated. But it's just I don't know
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what they've done right so far. I can't tell you,
but it's it's very enjoyable so far.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Yeah, It's like it's like and Or was for me.
And when it first came out, I was indifferent about it.
I was like, do we really need this story to
be told? Dragging my heels a little bit about whether
I was gonna get to it and watch it or not.
And then when you watch it, I'm just blown away
by it, Like I'm having so much fun. I'm really
into this. They're doing a very good job of it.
And that's how I felt for Skeleton Crew, Like we
have the Accolade before we got and Or season two
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coming up, potential Mandalorian Grogu movie, Ahsoka season two. Those
are the things my head like looking forward to, can't
wait to get the story.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Skeleton Crew.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
All right, we'll watch it now, I'll watching it like
this is great. I'm having a blast.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah. Now, just like, okay, where are they going to
carve out their space in the Star Wars universe, like
where these characters are gonna end up doing and being
like I'm I'm I'm so curious to like I have
no indication or no idea of where this show is headed. Yeah,
Like they may well never get back home, and I
would be fine with that. Like it's just because like
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the show just seems to be having an idea of
where it's going.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
What's nice been so far is we haven't everything's progressed naturally.
It's been a good flow. We haven't been left like Okay, wow,
we're still on the ship here, yeah, or we're still
it's gone from location location location, got the STU. Now
we got coordinates that are supposedly for Ed ED and
I'm going to assume they're not, otherwise the story would
end pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Yeah, But so far it's been reasons and getting from
point A to point B that have been interesting and
that I'm buying into it, and I'm not like just
looking ahead to Okay, are we gonna get back yet?
What are we gonna find out the secret about Ed?
And are we there yet? And I'm enjoying where we've
been so far and the stuff that they've been doing.
I hope it keeps up that way because we got
five more episodes to go.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Also, hyperspace firing off with the fuel line connected, Oh yeah,
that was insane. As he's like getting ready to punch it,
She's like, should we do this with us still connected
to something? As like the same time, Solomon's like can
they do that? Like what's going to happen? I was like,
I don't know. And then it just whiplashes back and
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like destroys a platform or the station. I was like, Okay,
that that seems reasonable for what would have happened. You know.
So we've had some hyperspace issues with Star Wars, so
you know we're doing some light some light speed skipping
and some missile launches with it. But uh, this was
a cool way of doing that.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Let's talk about those different things. You got light speed skipping,
you've got taking off of the fuel line connected. Han
Solo took off directly from the hangar to hyperspace, and
you have the Holdome maneuver.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Now, scientifically speaking, hyper space is just what traveling faster
than the speed of light light speed?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, mind Jena, my unscientific undersplanning unerstanding of that scientific explanation, and.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You have to have the course mapped out because you're going.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
So fast that you need to be going in a
spot that you're not going to resonate.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I like to think of it like you're getting into
a certain current or something I don't know, or like
it's like a highway, like a predetermined.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
How do you get to there?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
You're not you're not teleporting, yeah, No, like you're physically
going so like for me, leaving with the fuel pod
or with the fuel line connected to you. That makes
sense because you're going at such a strong force that
you're going to rip it out that you can't do normally,
So that that makes sense to me. Even even the
holdome maneuver makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Because something's directly in the path of it moves.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
It's derectly in the path of that and you're, as
it was speeding.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, you're speeding up.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
To a point that you would rip through it like
that light speed skipping. Yeah, unless you have it all
mapped out and you know when you're coming out, which
which they didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
No, that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
And also hyperspace tracking, I didn't mention that one. Yes,
another one.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Think you rogue one. I was actually gonna say, I
thought the way I thought it worked, but I realized
that that's not the case because when they're in hyper space,
you you can physically see them traveling through it. So
I for a long time I thought it was I
think the way Interstellar explained it, where he took the
paper and folded it in half. Have you have you
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have you seen his explanation, so essentially how he was
explaining space travel, which I always thought Star Wars did
this way too. But as I explained, this is probably
gonna refute itself, is that if like you have a
piece of paper and you draw a straight line from
one point to the other, you have to travel through
that distance to get that other point. Right, he said,
what they did in Interstellar was folding the paper and
just sticking a pencil directly through it and just skipping
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all that to get to the other side of the line.
But it's not an instant thing in Star Wars, so
they're actually traveling through something. So I think it does
go to what you're saying is it's a direct, very
calculated path super fast where if anything's in the way,
you would be destroyed. The hyperspace incident is what happens
to Neil Republic. Like we've we've read that, you know,
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Joey writ yeah, like yeah, sorry, oh, we're probably good,
but like it was an incident because of that. The
great disaster was something come out of higher space hitting something.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
So everything we've been told that you have to have
a very calculated route, obviously because the galaxy is what
however about hundreds of thousands of millions of years old.
People have calculated these routes from place to place, and
you're following along a charted route, but kind of like
a highway type thing. You're getting ont of highway and
going down the way it's supposed to be gone. Same
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thing with the Pergol. That's how the pergol are able
to do it. They follow those pathways. Yeah, so it
makes sense that you're speeding up to a faster speed
where you can't control, No, you can't steer your waight
in and out of it. You kind of just have
to write it out otherwise because you're going so fast.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
M h.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
The fuel line thing popping off that that makes sense
to me. That doesn't break anything for me.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Oh yeah, no, yeah, when that happened it it doesn't
say it because like it seemed like, yeah, that that's
you know, if if like the station got destroyed and
blown up, I would have like, whoa, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
I wish that we had some more restrictions on it though,
because it seems too easy. Like what would a blockade
stop anybody from if they could just jump to hyperspace?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, and like also like I keep thinking about, like
this ship is quite old and it's been buried for
a long time while when I when like in the
original Star Wars, like oh, you know the og Ones
when they do it, it was it felt like such a
big deal.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, Like when they first do it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
They're like talking about like it's something really risky and.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
In prepairs to the ship before we can do anything.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, but they're just going to hyper space all around.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, it's like, uh, it's hitting as now, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
It's just like, yeah, that blackade question you just asked
that that has my mind spinning.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, well just like shoot through blockaged well.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Especially too because you leave a you leave a planet
and keV you can attest this playing outlaws when obviously
that's not exactly like it is but like you can
leave a planet, you can go in any direction, so
you're gonna botch it. You have to have something that
goes around the entire plane.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, no, I've got my head canon.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
They can. They've already scanned your ship. They know who
you are, they know who it's registered to. The reason
Hans Tolo can do that is because it's his like
a ship for smuggling, Like.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
They weren't able to get a reading on it or something. Yeah,
well what is the reading? The reading will stop you
from one hyperspace?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
No, like they know who you are. It's like if
I if I run a red light.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Oh, like so you have a like you got a
license plate, They're gonna stack you down exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
So you know, if I run a red light, even
if I get away from them, if they got my
license plate, they will be at my house.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
But then what about like naboo.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh well yeah, I was gonna say not to invoke
the last Jedi, but I always assumed if some if
there's a blockade, you try to hyper space past the
block eight, you would just hit them, would you not?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Yeah, but like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
But if you're traveling through space here and I'm showing
my hand going in a straight line. Yeah, why don't
you just go higher in space until you're above them
and then go yeah direction, you're just going to be
back road to get to another highway, not the highway
they're blocking. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm sure they blocked.
(25:33):
We talked about established hyper space routes. I'm sure they
park themselves to block those roots. But for me, there's like,
what would stop you from going to light speed just
to get past them and then make your way back
up into it?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Anyways, just skip someone in traffic to someone flying slow
in front of you.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Is this is for kids?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
We're getting way too deep into it, but we need
to just trust the science.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You're really just making me think of the family guy. Wow,
this guy really knows some maneuvers. He's listing lazily to
the left.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
But no, look, look, I will say this to save
you for Chris if you think they were taking too
much about this. Isn't it great that there's a Star
Wars show that's making us have fun talking about it,
Like we're sitting there talking about hypotheticals of light speed
travel right now, hyperspace roots and stuff like that's that's
what this is supposed to be doing for us. Yeah, yeah,
you know, we're not supposed to be like, you know,
(26:25):
what the heck is? Why is there? You know, like
it's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
It's Yotty Moody is fifty years old?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
About Kyati Moody right now? Or why he has a
red lightsaber if he's not a syth you know, like
it's just like this is like I don't know, like
I would rather be arguing or debating the merits of
why people don't just hyper speed as the blockades than
anything else right now, absolutely, because that means we're enjoying
ourselves and we're having a good show. Comes out a
Tuesday nights, right I watched him on Wednesdays?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, me too, I watched them right before.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We Hey man, that's the best way to remember.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
It's very busy man right now? Though, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Well, yeah, no, it was. It was a fantastic episode. Man,
who did she call? She just she has called the
Republic after after him, right, call the new Republic the
new Republic? So now the new republics after him?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Of course she was like, mister war did you just.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Like what what like that's very offensive, especially.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
If you like knew someone on all around, you know, like,
why are you talking about all aroun right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Now, just right after World War Two? Just like your
trip to Japan and yeah, extremely insensitive. Yeah, so that
that's a good point we talked about.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
She she just called the New Republic, but before she
called them, she was on the phone talking to someone
else and said, yeah, this is Crimson Jack.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
He's here.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I'm gonna stall him, right.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah. I I assumed it was just whoever.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
There's party out there that he's got. Oh, maybe I'll
go back and watch, but I'm pretty sure she was
talking to somebody else.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Can him? The owl was talking to somebody else? And
then she said she was going. She said, all the.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Authorities or call the patrol or whatever. So I want
to know who the other person is.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
H Well, it's probably not his pirate crew, I would
hope not his former crew.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
No, probably not.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
I gotta expect that he got Brutus, who's the wolf
looking leader of the pirates. And then you got Gunther
I think, or Gunt something like that, who's uh ercle.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah. No, it's so funny because there's a professional rest
of named Gunther right now, who's like the world champion.
He's like this big evil guy. And so just to hear,
like ce Julia White, we call it Gunther. It's like,
oh that's funny. Gunter Gunter gun To.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
We'll have to see, because I'm sure they're gonna track
him down at some point. They're not just gonna leave
it as put a bounty on him and be done
with it, especially since the whole series started off with
them altogether, you know, raiding that ship for supposed treasure.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh, I hope at Aden just doesn't have
a giant vault full of like old Republic credits, like
you know, I hope it's something more.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
There's a treasure.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
We don't have any idea because it's a they have
the barrier which blocks them from well can they even
they can't even like send signals out. Is that what
we're learning from the parents, So like something that's what
they're told, Like maybe the supervisor can do it.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I'm drawing a blank, Chris, And I think you would
probably remember in the in the Kyle Castus Jedi stories, yeah,
you know, and Joey might recover years you haven't played
a seconde yet. Quick, quick, quick, Well I'll try to
do some spoilers.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
We've already spoiled it for him.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Okay, well the planet that is hidden, how is it hidden?
And how do they get to it?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Again, it's like it's like behind a nebula or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
But isn't that kind of what these are doing too?
I think she said gas nebula or something.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
This one might be like a man made barrier because
it's like surrounding the entire planet. It's like a shroud
like they call it the barrier. I wonder if it's
done purposely. It could be a natural forming thing. But
and we've seen some of these before, like in Rebels
they had to steer through.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Okay, yeah to get to the other planet.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Okay, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Yeah the one in Jedi Survivor was you had like
you had to like fly through a nebula or something
like that. I don't think it's like a barrier because
once you're on it, you can still see out.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah okay, yeah, Because I was just curious they're going
to connect these anyway, because like the way they think
they're like a different time period and stuff like oh,
you know, maybe there's a connection there, but it doesn't
need to be. That's the great part. This story does
not need to connect to anything right now. Like every
Star Wars project has ended up connecting back to the
main Star Wars storyline in some way, you know, whether
a cameo or something like that, And right now, I'm
(30:51):
just like, we don't need that. I don't need to
you don't. You know, It's fine. There can be more
than the ten to twelve characters that we know about
in Star Wars doing things in the galaxy far far away.
So I'm pretty interesting in it.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Is a crazy prediction.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Time, let's go.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I've also been not following social media with this, so
I don't know if this is a theory. I don't
know if I sound like an.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Idiot game Sorry, I'm a YouTube ro I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I'm I'm really interested in the idea of that at
being like Earth or something. Oh my god, like it's well, no,
a long time ago, like making time a circle or something.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I don't know, because yeah, no, it's a long time
ago and it is a far far away, but it
wouldn't make sense because in my theory, it would have
to be in the future, So no, I talked through
that it wouldn't make sense unless the time was like
a circle or something like that.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Oh no, Chris is a huge fan of time traveling
Star Wars, though I don't think he would like that.
I'm interested to know, if you know, if Chris is
right in this barrier is a man made thing? What
about these planets? Because we learned it was just more
than at Aden, and those other ones have been destroyed
by what and for what?
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Well destroyed or or revealed? I guess right, well.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I thought I thought Kim said like this was the
only one.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Left, Yeah, left being that that maybe the other ones,
like the treasure is already taken from or the last
one that's still out there unknown or missing her.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But I'm just trying to think, what in the Star
Wars universe, with everything the Star Wars universe hasn't and
all these crazy characters and crazy things in the forest,
all these things, what is worth hiding? You know? Like
like like that is such an interesting thing to me,
Like like what is so important out of everything we
noticed important in Star Wars that these people like we
gotta hide and not let anybody know we're here, and
(32:45):
not let anybody here know what's out there?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
You see, we could speculate there's there's kiber yeah mm hmm,
coaxium Okay, yeah, it could just be a bunch of spice,
tobana gas.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
A bunch of spice. Yeah yeah, oil. Not the different world.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Sorry, that's the same thing.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Enough about our world. That's why we go to place
I think gold gold. Yeah. I'm interested to know what
it is to learn more about Crimson Jack because, like
I said, a swashbuckling Jude Law is great for me.
I'm loving that, and the kids are just imprinting themselves
on me even more. I'm like just loving these kids
every ship, every episode. Uh, they're all doing a great job.
(33:30):
They all feel like kids. Neil just I don't know,
man hit the his CGI and puppeteering or make up
whatever they do behind the scenes. Whenever they show how
they made him so expressive and so like real like feeling,
even though he's a blue elephant boy with a He's
my favorite. I hope you hope he has a cool
(33:50):
action scene at some point. I want to see I
want to see a Jedi look like him, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
I think it's time to time to consult the Jedi Council.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I must be with the Jedi Council immediately.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
The situation has become much more complicated.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I'll go first.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
I'm going to continue Master for all the reasons that
we just said, enjoying it. You're doing a great job.
I am looking forward to next week Master.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Master for me too. If you guys haven't, if you
guys are waiting to check this out, or if you
guys like I'll listen to some reviews, or maybe it's
not for me, that's all fine, But like I would
recommend this show if you're an older Star Wars fan,
like like two of us apparently, as we got called
out last.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Week, Hey I'm thirty now is yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Dude, Yeah, welcome. We're almost leaving that. If you got
kids that are entered in Star Wars, jested out with them.
But also if you just want to watch something light
in fun, you know, give it a give it a shot.
It's a it's it's really it's really not bad.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So Master for me, I'll also say Master. I'm I
can't say anything more than this is fun.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
All right, let's hand out some awards who is your
MVP of the episode?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Neil Neils every Neil flew the ship. Yeah, no, I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
No, he but he did, like just like Freeze in
the crowd, he just stopped and then.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
No, I'm I'm I'm gonna say Crimson Jack. Honestly, I
I really like, I don't know, I really like this character.
I'm I'm ready for him to break my heart when
he ends up like really being a bad person.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Mm hmm. But he'll he'll have a heart of gold.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I hope. So I don't want to hurt these kids' hearts.
Like you can't do that, right, Like, come on, guys, Like,
we can't have this character hurt these kids, right.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
No.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
I think I think we've already kind of like flushed
out his motivations. He wants he's looking for gold riches.
That's what he led the pirates to and then only
found one credit and that's what he got in prison
for it. And now he figured out what ed Addam is.
He wants to get there to get the treasure or
a reward for himself. I think we've kind of sussed
out his motivations now. I hope there's not anything ill
sinister there might be. We don't know, but I think
(36:00):
that we finally for what they've shown us when it's
just him, like when the kids are all sleeping, or
when he's in the back room talking to me or.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Yeah, those kind of things. There's there hasn't been anything sinister.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
It's it's been it's it's all followed and tracked with
what we thought about him so far.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
He's this guy. He's kind of out for himself a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
He's morally ambiguous because of everything he's done that we've
seen so far.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
But he's not a bad guy. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, at least not yet. But he's not vote.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
I mean, you guys got I was gonna say that myself.
I just didn't know what name to call him.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yea, yeah, now Crimson. So it's so it's it's in
the theme of the Goonies because you know in the Goonies,
which we've all seen, there's eye Willie, right right, Chris,
one eye, one eyed Willy is is the uh yeah,
and so just random story, my son Jackson, when he
was born, one of his eyes he just kept closed
a lot when he was like a new newborn, so
(36:54):
you'd have one eye open. Nice call him one eyed
Jack for one eyed Willie. And so I've kind of
just continued calling him when eyed Jack and it become
whatever I want to call him and Jack. So I'll
be like football Jack or you know, dishwasher Jack, or
you know, just something stupid and not stupid Jack though,
but like crimson Jack sounds like something I probably would
(37:15):
have called him by now, And so I'm probably gonna
start calling him crimson Jack now. And I'm sure who
love it because he's fourteen and he loves nicknames from
his dad.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
All right, so he gets our MVP vote.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Nice comeback player, we say come back from one of
the earlier episodes.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Should be who who he thought was? Yeah, and Schmeie's back,
and he came back protecting those kids, man, Like He's like,
I don't know who you are, dude, I don't mean
he poked his put his finger in his chest and everything.
Don't know who you think you are?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I liked it, So I like it. I like his
protection over the kids already.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Rookie of the episode, it's Kim Kim.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah, Kim was fantastic. What a great New Star Wars character.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
She's kind of like she's kind of like Ma's kanada
Ish and that, Yeah, she knows everything, like you go
there because she knows everything.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Because she's wise, because she's an owl.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Yeah, I just make that connection.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
I'm a good die.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I'm a good die.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Is this another Disney thing you've got? SMI you've got
to the owl? Owl, rabbit and piglet are next?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Nice?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
No, I like that the notion that she would have
like mapped out all these charts and like she has
got an observatory that spins around and looks into the galaxy,
like that would be something that someone that that would
be a job hobby that people would.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Do, spins around like an owl's neck.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
The comparisons are endless. Our scheme award, mm hmm, Kim,
thats a snitch?
Speaker 4 (38:49):
No? That that that that one guy that the one
pirate friend that knew Jack.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
And was like, yeah, the guy down in the droid bank.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, I forgot his name, but uh yeah, that guy,
whatever his name is, we'll find it out afterwards. That
guy sucks.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
And do we have any any weight nominees?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
No, no, no, no, no one has died because kids
are the ones doing the fighting right now.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
A Alderan got some new news here.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
We're saving that.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Yeah, so that's our awards to the tally Board. Kind
of slim on entries.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
This week.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
We have a plus one for Cannon Immigrants for the
name Crimson Jack, which not only has some legends, knows
it has some cannon connotations also, so legends is there's
a ton of stuff the Essential Guy to Characters Star
Wars Handbook with X Wing Rogue Squadron, a lot of legends.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Real quick, I'm gonna say a name that I think
that guy's name was, and to see if he clicks
to you. Was that guy's name Binjar Pranick. I feel
like I remember hearing the name Pranic because made me.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Think about r crannick.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
If that If that was Binjar Pranic, do you want
to know what actor was underneath that makeup or at
least doing the voice of that character. Who's that Alfred Molina?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
What?
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, he's credited as Binjar Pranic in episode three, which
I think that was that character? Yeah, yeah, he's Doc Hawk?
Is Doc Hawk? Is that guy?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Wait? What about Malina doing his Star Wars That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Another guy who is probably just happy to be part
of the Star Wars Universe.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
And then the canon appearances for the name Crimson Jack
are First Order Resistance timeframe. So, according to Wikipedia, Crimson
Jack is a human male pirate who during the First
Order Resistance War, attempted to claim a bounty from the
First Order after discovering that someone aboard the Pergo class
star cruiser Helcion had sent a transmission to the Resistance.
(40:53):
So now this is a canon name, and if it's
being assigned to Julaw, is he going to essentially become
this character later on?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
I don't know, it'd be interesting.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
So I wonder if there's any kind of connection or
it's just uh yeah, maybe he was just using the
name of somebody else.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Yeah, I mean yeah, because I mean, like, who knows
what his name is. I mean, I guess, I guess
it might be the first one, not Crimson Jack.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I was looking up here on Wookipedia and it said
that Crimson Jack is also an alias for They.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Probably added that after the show. Yeah, nothing is guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So he's been he's been.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Called Silvo, Captain Silvo.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
He said his name was jod Nan now would and
then he's also been called Crimson Jack. So I think
because of the way he's been credited on like IMDb
and stuff, because he said that's the name, I think
the Jodnan now Wood might be his actual name. If
if any of these has a chance to be, that
would be my vote.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's he was a
pad one then he's just been kind of like Kayden
just doing stuff.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
I think he's he's for sensitive and kind of like
because he said takes a lot of practice. I think
he's just gotten to the point where he can use
the telicanesis of it all.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
My favorite part though about him in his in his
Jedi moments was she was like, you're a Jedi, you
can't leave anyone behind. He's like, that's not a Jedi thing,
Like nobody ever said that, And I was like, that's
really funny, Like every good virtuous thing just gets like
a credit to Jedi values. Is like, wait, now that's
not there.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
We do. I mean I was sitting there thinking like, yeah,
that's not the thing people.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Say, because they do leave you behind, no attaching behind man, then.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
The keepers are the peace, not not people.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
Plus one canademgrand for Crimson Jack brings us to fifty
six and.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
A half not a canadimigrant.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
I don't think this counts, but I thought it was
kind of a cool nod to Empire strikes back when
they have KB, when she kind of wakes up and
her like eyes open up, kind of like Lobot and
Empire strikes back. Who's wearing this? Where similar? Not the
same eyepiece or head pieces hurt, but something similar. I
don't know that it was an interesting little it was.
Probably it might have just been nothing, might have just
(43:07):
been me seeing that I'm not counting as Candram, just
trying to point out. And then the only other one
we had is no one's ever really gone because we
had written Sme off last episode and he.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Is back and better than ever.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Yes, I love the setup, like it's not just four kids.
It's four kids, a potential pirate guy and a droid.
It's it's a team growing and it gives different dynamics
and I love it.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
It's just fun.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Yeah, a lot of having a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
All Right, keV hit us with a joke, Okay, man,
I'm i'm I'm I'm I'm gonna hit you with one,
and maybe even a follow up because it sounds like
we need two jokes this episode. So, gentlemen, why was
Darth Vader bad at.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Sports because he didn't have real lengths?
Speaker 4 (43:56):
That's funny. It's because he's always choking. And as a
bonus one, what position does he play in baseball? He's
the umpire.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
All right.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
Well that's episode three of Scouting Crew. We're back next
week episode four.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
May the Force Be with You.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
And Always hold On to Star Wars. Always hold On
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