Christianity Lied About the Afterlife? You Need to Hear This Before It's Too Late

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Truth Seeker
and Aaron Podcast. We're excited to be with you for
another episode. We're gonna get deep today. We're gonna be
talking about psychic abilities. We're gonna be talking about near
death experiences angels with our good friend Julie Ryan, who
is a psychic and medical intuitive. It's gonna be fun.
What is that. We're gonna dive into it, But first

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Speaker 2 (02:12):
Today, So let's welcome Julie Ryan. Hi, Julie, Hi, guys.
It's good to see you today.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Thanks so much, wonderful to be with you.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, she was supposed to be with us a few
weeks ago, and something that almost never happens here. The
power went out. And usually if it does go out,
it'll come right back on. But it was out for
half of a day. I guess they were doing some
maintenance on the equipment or something. And anyway, weird, weird thing.
So if you're listening to this, know that it was

(02:43):
postponed for you specifically you could hear it.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm honored.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
There's a lot of facets to what you do. We
love exploring the spiritual realm, spiritual gifts, psychic ability, esp.
All that kind of stuff that you're flowing in.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
This is something that you do that you offer you
help people, medical, intuitive, also working with animals. There's so
many different facets to what you do. Can you just explain,
just in a general overview, what it is that you do,
who you are, what you bring to the table, and
then we'll kind of pick that apart a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Sure, I'm a businesswoman and an inventor of surgical devices
sold throughout the world who learned how to do woo woo,
and I'm a buffet of psychicness. I love that. So
once we connect with spirit, we can do it all.
I don't understand why it's siloed. You got the psychics
and the mediums, and the pit psychics and the medical

(03:45):
and and it's like you connect with spirit, you can
do at all. And the big thing that's different about me,
you guys, is that I learned how to do this stuff,
and I teach people from all over the world how
to do it as well. I am not a psychic
who had dead people chasing her as a child. If
I did, I didn't know it, let alone what I

(04:06):
would have done with that information. So I learned how
to do this stuff, and now I teach people from
all walks of life. I think we've had fifteen countries
represented in my graduates so far.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Wow. Yes, we like to dive into the origin story,
like that's always the fun part. And so you kind
of already addressed something off the you know, right off
the bat, that you didn't have ghosts and these dead
people coming to you and I have unfinished business, tell
you know, tell my family, I love them, those kind
of things. So what is your origin story? Like, how

(04:40):
did this start for you that you were able to
pay attention to know that there was something extrasensory psychic
going on.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, I am a serial entrepreneur. I've founded nine companies
in five industries, and as I mentioned, I'm an inventor,
of surgical devices and former manufacturer. I sold my company
in twenty fifteen. Prior to that, about a little more
than thirty years ago, I had a friend give me
a book called Anatomy of This Spirit, and the author,

(05:12):
Carolyn Mace, called herself a medical intuitive. And I had
been in the hospital supply industry for a while at
that point, and I was developing and inventing and manufacturing
surgical devices. So I was helping people heal, but through
traditional medicine, the doctors and the surgeons would be using

(05:33):
my inventions to help people heal. So I thought, well,
what the heck's a medical intuitive? And we didn't have
the Internet back then, you guys, we didn't have it yet.
So I did the old fashioned thing and I went
to a bookstore because I thought they're probably more likely
to have more woo woo stuff than even my local library.
And I found a book called Hands of Light by

(05:55):
Barbara Brennan. She was a former NASA physicist who parlayed
very complex quantum physics principles into understandable language for the
non scientific mind that would be me, and was using
quantum physics and energy to help people heal. And it

(06:16):
was fascinating, and I called her school, which at the
time was on Long Island in New York, and I said,
you guys, have anybody teaching this stuff in my area,
And as luck would have it, they said, yes, we
have a graduate who's open to school. And I studied
with her for six years. Now fast forward, I teach

(06:37):
all of this in a weekend. So as technology as upgraded,
as I've refined my skills and come up with new
techniques and things that built, of course, on what I
learned in the classes I studied. Now we streamline it
and get people doing this stuff in the first hour

(06:58):
of my training. It's really that easy. I think people
over complicate the daylights out of it, and it's not complicated.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, that's awesome. Do you find that people just need
to remember their connection to the spirit sometimes, like sometimes
that water gets muddied a bid and like learning to
kind of trust yourself and your intuition again is a.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Part of it, absolutely, Aaron. Everybody comes in with the ability,
it's just a matter of developing and enhancing it. Most
little children can display their intuitive skills until in adults
in their world, whether it be a parent or a
grandparent or a teacher or sometimes even a friend, a

(07:42):
little kid friend of theirs tells them, oh, honey, that's
just your imagination, that's not really real, and then they
learn to not trust it and shut it down. And
everybody has had the situation arise in their lives where
they think of somebody and they either run in to
them or they get a text or an email or
a call from them, and they say, oh, my gosh,

(08:05):
I was just thinking of you and here you are,
and what a coincidence. That's not a coincidence, that's that's
your intuition at play.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
We want to go ahead and plug your free gift
for the community for our listeners. You do have a
free gift that you would like to give for those
who would want a digital copy of your book right.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Digital and audiobook. Also in digital and audiobook in Spanish.
It's Angelic Attendance, what really happens as we transition from
this life into the next. And it's about how we're
all surrounded by angels and the spirits of deceased loved
ones and pets. And it has illustrations in it about
the configurations that happen. So if anybody wants a free

(08:51):
digital and audiobook cobpages go to Juli Ryangift dot com.
That's Juliryangift dot com. Because all of us are going
to lose somebody we love, and all of us are
going to be in that situation at some point, and
people are so afraid of what happens as we're dying.
I've found that there's lots of information about the after life,

(09:13):
lots of information about near death experiences and the grieving
process and even past lives, but not much information about
what happens as we're dying. And university based research shows
that ninety percent of people at the end of their
lives see the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets.
So perhaps we thought Grandma was hallucinating because of the morphine,

(09:37):
you know, at the at her end days when she
was talking about seeing her dead mother who'd been gone
for sixty years. Grandma wasn't hallucinating. She could actually see
her and communicate with her.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, those stories are amazing, and it happens so often
that there's got to be something to it. We've talked
about this recently. There was a little boy who I
guess was on that he was coming out from anesthesia
from some type of injury, and he's talking to his
deceased father. He's crying and he seize Jesus and his

(10:11):
loved ones and stuff. Have you seen that video?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I did see him. My goodness.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
What's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Well, it's very, very common. As I mentioned, university based
research shows at ninety percent of people see the spirits
of deceased loved ones and pets as they're dying. I
love it when science catches up with Woo woo because
Woo Wo's been around a whole lot longer. Wo, by
the way, means source and Taoism. I don't know if
you knew that. Nice. So people think wo wo that's disrespectful. No,

(10:39):
it's not. It's a really good description of all of
this spiritual stuff when somebody's under anesthesia. And of course
I know this because I spent decades in and out
of surgeries, developing products, testing prototypes, working with my team,
and they take us really to the brink, you know,
of life and death when we're under anesthesia. That's why

(11:02):
in the hospital they always say in surgery, the ansthesiologist
is the captain of the ship. We think it's the surgeon.
It's not, it's the anesthesiologist because that person is responsible
for keeping the patient alive while the surgery is being performed.
Interesting point that you raise, though, along the surgery thing

(11:24):
is there are always spirits that are in the room.
In the operating room, I can see real time somebody
that's in surgery anywhere in the world. I could see them.
If they're in surgery in a galaxy far far away,
it doesn't matter. And the person's guardian angel is always
over the head of anesthesia. There are surgeon spirits over

(11:46):
the head of the actual surgeons, and then there are
other deceased loved ones spirits that are in their room
as well. So it makes total sense than that little boy. Actually,
I have a chapter in my book about it, what
happens in the oar.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I want to circle back again just to touch back
on the origin story, just to get some clarity. I
just really love these you know, So for you, it
didn't happen, like the abilities and awareness and tapping into
it didn't happen first. It came with an interest of
something you were interested in, started studying it and found
out that you could flow in it. And it's maybe

(12:22):
a dormant ability that almost everyone has. That is that
what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yes, absolutely. It was so funny when I started those classes.
My family and friends said, well, why are you doing this?
I don't know, because I was a wife and a
mom and a businesswoman, you know, I was busy. And
they said, why are you studying this? I said, I
am no clue, and they say, what are you going
to do with it? I said, again, I don't know.

(12:49):
It's just interesting. I was being led. I look back
at it now, I was being led. And the thing
that drew me to it was the medical side of
the equation, the healing side. I thought, okay, how are
they using energy to heal people? And what I found,
as I mentioned earlier, is once you connect with spirit,
you can do at all. There's no reason to segregate

(13:11):
it or silo it. And so as I started my classes,
which maybe were once a week, you know, for an evening,
I are, yeah, I think they are about once a week,
maybe once every other week, I started seeing in my
mind's eye colors that would move around when I'd be
trying to look and connect with somebody's body. And then

(13:35):
it went into a grid format similar. It reminded me
of an architectural drawing of a building or a home.
You know, there's thin blue lines, and I saw this
grid that was the body. And then I started being
able to see in my mind's eye organs and broken
bones and torn ligaments and viral infections and material infections

(13:58):
and cancer and things like that. And that's what I
do now too, for people that want a medical scan
and healing. And then what happens is some things identified,
and it's Spirit working through me, in with me to
help that person heal themselves. And so immediately as soon

(14:18):
as some things identified, there will be some type of
energetic healing that will begin, and that can take the
form of something getting added, something getting removed. I watch
procedures all the time in my mind's i that emulate
what I saw in the operating room for all those
years I was in and out of surgery. Sometimes I
see devices and methodologies utilized by Spirit that haven't been

(14:42):
invented yet. And so I warned my clients. I say,
you may hear me, say, oh cool, I haven't seen
this before. This is great, And then I describe it
to them in detail because I want them to envision
what I'm seeing in my mind's eye, because that helps
integrate the healing and to their body. Nobody heals anybody

(15:03):
else ever, no doctor, no medical provider, no healer like me.
We all heal ourselves and those of us that are
helping or helping that person heal themselves. One other interesting
point about this, I talk in analogy is a lot
and just to give us a human frame of reference

(15:23):
for all this woo woo stuff we're doing. And I
find that my analogies come into my head from the spirit.
Sometimes they're hilarious, spiritous, hilarious. And I may tell you, Derek,
that your elbow looks like whipped cream or something crazy,
but it gives you an instant visual. And then I
go on and I say, remember, you're healing yourself. If

(15:47):
you go to the emergency room with a big cut
in your leg, the doctor's going to stitch it up,
But the doctor doesn't make your skin grow back. You
make your own skin grow back. And that's how all
this works.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh, I want to just interject for those who've been
following the podcast for a while seeing some of the
past episodes, we have a guy on here who kind
of claimed the opposite. He claimed he was doing the
healing and claimed he healed me, and made a promo
video out of the podcast and snipped me up and
pieced together my words to claiming that he healed me.

(16:19):
And it's very interesting what you're bringing to the table
is that nobody heals anybody. We're healing ourselves. A very
different take on that.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, And when people come to me, I have five
graduates of my class that work with me. Just because
a bandwidth there are only so many hours in the day,
I always say, yeah, you heal yourself. And the other
thing that's really interesting about this is you think about
when our body is healing, Like back to the cut thing,

(16:49):
we don't see a cell attached to another cell attached
to another cell. We don't see the white blood cells there,
you know, taking care of an brewing infection, per perhaps
the lucasites, you know, the red blood cells, all of that.
But we know that it works because we watch our
bodies heal. For those who say, well, but what about

(17:11):
voodoo medicine, what about curses? What about somebody that says
they're healing you? The bottom line, you guys, is it's
the belief in the person who's having the healing performed.
It's the person in visioning that information. That's why Spirit
gives me these analogies that are very easy to understand

(17:33):
and quite frankly, sometimes are really funny. And that's the
other thing. We're supposed to have fun when we do
this stuff, because spirit is pure love and joy. Spirit,
you know, it's a high frequency. You're supposed to feel good.
And so that's what's been my experience in doing medical
healings with tens of thousands of people over the last

(17:57):
thirty years.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, that's amazing. I just love I love the fact
that you know so much of the science and that
you have been able to marry that with spirit instead
of like drawing the line you know what I mean,
like science or spirit, but you have the perfect marriage
of both when you do some of your medical intuitive

(18:20):
sessions with people. Have you ever seen other beings like
angels or other dimensional beings like helping to work on
somebody and maybe help them remove blockages or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes, absolutely, it's big spirit. It's the whole kitten kaboodle.
You know, it's my spirit, my client, spirit, family members, angels,
loved ones, God himself, you know, all of it is
all involved, and I don't see you know, individual family

(18:56):
members that are going, Okay, I'm gonna stitch this up.
I watch the healing happen, and I know that it's
spirit working through me, big spirit like all that is,
and it's just energy working through me. As far as
blockagees are in great point to bring up because there's
always an emotional component in place before any kind of

(19:19):
disease or illness manifests. It's been my experience. So at
the end of every healing, when I have somebody for
an hour, or when one of my graduates does, we
always look at what I call the energy field membrane,
and that's the container that holds the energy that makes
up our body and our spirit. And the energy field

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membrane reminds me of a really thin plastic bag, and
when there's a terror hole in it, there's an energy leak.
Energy leaks always precede any kind of medical condition, and
they're caused by an emotional event, either in this life
or a past life. So I'm vision going into that
terror hole, and if it's this life, I'll be given
a year. I'll get like nineteen sixty two. And if

(20:06):
the person was alive, I'll say, where were you, what
were you doing? What do you remember. I can go
further and see a scene of them being beaten up
on the playground by a bully or something when they
were seven, But normally I don't even have to go
that far because I'll say nineteen sixty two. They'll say,
oh my god, I was seven. I was in the
second grade and a bully beat me up on the playground.

(20:27):
They know I would say ninety nine percent of the
time instantly, if it's a past life that's caused this
energy block, I'll get where it was, when it was,
what the date was. I'll see a scene kind of
like from a movie from that past life, and then
we'll correlate that with what's going on in their current life.
There's always a connection. I'm going for, not the most

(20:51):
dramatic or traumatic thing that's happened for the person. I'm
going for, where did that energy block begin? Once we
illuminate it, it's around dedicated the energy field, membrane, heels,
body goes back to working on full power, helps somebody
regain and maintain health. And the interesting thing about this
is I didn't learn this. This came in from spirit

(21:13):
over the years, and I believe it's the most important
part of healing because we can heal body parts all
day long. But if you're leaking power, what's the point.
The other thing that's interesting about this when this technique
came in, the analogy I got from spirit was it's
akin to how psychologists will say, we're going to talk
about your life, and it'll be like peeling an onion

(21:35):
a layer at a time. I just want to get
the onion out by the root, and then all the
other energy blogs that have piled on top of it
based on that person's emotional experiences that were less than optimal.
It's all eradicated in one fell swoop. And I've never
seen the energy field membrane rupture in a subsequent appointment

(21:58):
with somebody over the years. I'm not saying it can't,
but I've never seen it in tens of thousands of healings,
so I think there's a really good chance that it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Wow. You mentioned being able to look at people and
tell when they're close to death what happens? Is it okay?
Do you position yourself to begin to help this person transition?
Are there things they can do to prevent that death
or prolong that death, Like, what are some of the

(22:29):
you know what, what are the benefits of being able
to see that, because that I'm sure that could be
quite traumatic for you or heavy to deal with and
be the you know for some would say the bearer
of bad news. What will happened in that type of scenario.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
No, Actually, it's glorious. It's a glorious component to what's
normally a heart wrenching situation. And we all decide where
we go, when we go, who's with us or not
when we go, and what the circumstances are that surround
our death. And I've come to coin the process the
twelve phases of transition, and it's a configuration of how

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the spirits of loved ones and pets are in the room,
and angels as well, and that configuration around the person
who's dying changes as the person gets closer and closer
to death. And when we remember that time doesn't exist
in the spirit world times of human creation, we can
sort of understand that the twelve phases happen whether somebody

(23:30):
dies instantly, like in the case of a homicide or suicide,
or whether somebody dies over a prolonged period of time days, weeks, months,
even years. The research shows, and it's been my experience
in working with thousands of families over the years, that
it's very comforting to the person who's dying and the
family when we are describing their Collie that they had

(23:54):
when they were a teenager, you know, and the collie
spirits in the room, and when we're describing the animals
in the room because grandma grew up on a farm,
and they're saying, oh, that was Molly, her pet cow,
and that was Homer, her pet pig, and things like that.
And what I found is that people are so afraid
to die because they don't know if they're going to

(24:15):
fly or they're going to fry. Basically, especially in our
Western Judaeo Christian culture. You know, we've all been in
and dated what you better do? What I say? You
gotta burn burn, Yeah, everybody goes to heaven. There was
a movie in the nineteen eighties called All Dogs Go
to Heaven. All People Got to Heaven too, because people
are dogs. Yeah. And so the first time I saw

(24:42):
these twelve faces of transition was when my own mother
was dying in two thousand and two and I talk
about that in the book, and it was like I
felt like the Lady of Justice scale, you know, where
my heart was breaking on one side because my mother
was dying very in expectedly, and on the other side,
I was watching all this twelve phases ZEP transition that

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I hadn't come up with a name for it yet,
but I was watching it all unfold and I thought, WHOA,
this is amazing. And throughout it there were times when
I would see extra angels appear and things like that,
and I didn't know what was going to happen, but
I knew that they were going to play an integral
role in my mother's passing, in my mother's spirit separating

(25:29):
from her body. And I've never been around anybody that
was dying before, so it was all a new experience
for me.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, I think it really what a beautiful gift to
give people. I had a really close person to me
pass within the last few years, and my knowing mind
and my subconscious mind knew that she was going to
be gone soon. But I just coming from a Christian

(25:59):
back like my faith, just tried to ignore it kind of.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
You know, And I did.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I did know it was dire. I did cherish every
moment I had with her. If she asked me to
do something, I was there, Like any moment she wanted
to spend with me. I didn't care how far I
had to go or whatever. I was there. But in
the Christian realm, we are taught that death is kind
of a defeat, like you died, you lost. It's it's

(26:28):
this fear based conditioning that we go through in the church.
That and even a lot of the wu Wu circles
now they teach if your physical body doesn't have to die,
that your physical body can live forever, if you have
enough faith, if you believe it, if you take care

(26:49):
of yourself. That's not what we found from reading the
scriptures because we are still Christians. We're just i would
say non traditional because web Yeah, we read and interpret
the scriptures for ourselves from the Greek and the Hebrew texts. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
But yeah, like fascinating how it's been changed when the
when it's been translated from the original meaning.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
It is because it's such a beautiful text, but it's
used for such evil in the world in the in
the errant translations of it.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, the the loser thing, like you're setting yourself
up for failure. And like one of the things that
they always say at a funeral, if somebody dies from
cancer or dies from some type of struggle of an addiction,
they say they lost the.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Battle or if they're the victim.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
The devil one. But the scriptures teach us like the
devil's defeated. Like the devil doesn't win anything, he's already
been defeated. So this idea of like, you know, you
you lost your you lost your battle with cancer. Like
maybe they got an upgrade. Yeah, maybe they're in a
place that's a lot more glorious and they got to
go home a little bit early. You know, maybe they

(28:00):
their job here was done. Like what if you know
that kind of idea, Like what would you say to
help people that have that idea that I'm losing the
battle versus I'm getting a victory and just changing bodies
or you know, however we can look at it to
you know, to bring some hope, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, a couple of points. First of all, I always
tell people sometimes death is the healing to your point, Derek,
you know, when somebody's suffering horribly. I talked to a
woman last weekend who is the sister of one of
my best friends. And she's been suffering for twenty five years.
All her vertebrae are fused in her back from multiple surgeries.

(28:40):
I mean, she's bedridden. It's been atrocious amounts of pain
for her. And she said, all I can think of
is death. And I said, sometimes death is the healing.
And that's great, that's fine. And she's read the book
and she's I've worked with her and her family when
both of her parents were dying, and so she understands it.
She said, I have so much peace about it, you know,

(29:01):
knowing what I've learned from your book and from working
with you. Another point, how the book originated. It's a
fun story. May I share that with you guys.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
And day I was with my mentor. She was doing
a healing on me. And when I'm in her office,
I'm on the table and I got a blankey on
and all my deceased loved one spirits are lining both
sides of the table and they participate in the healing.
Even my little deceased dog, Katie. She's on her hind
legs and her little paws are up on the side

(29:35):
of the table. And one day, this spirit of a
dead pope shows up and he's got his Pope hed
On and his shepherds were in the whole lane yards
and my mentor could see him too. I said, where
are you and he said, I'm Clement, and he said great,
I never heard of a Pope Clement. I'm so sorry,
but I haven't heard of you. And he laughed and

(29:57):
he said, well I was number six. I said, okay,
I help you. I'm thinking, why is this guy here?
And he said, you're supposed to teach the world what
happens when somebody dies, because it's been so bastardized over
the millennia, and people are so afraid to die, and
it's glorious. Maybe not today, but it's always a glorious

(30:18):
transition and there's nothing to be afraid of. And you
know that. I know that from at that point I'd
witnessed it with my mother, and then many other people
I'd witnessed it and worked with their families by that time.
So I said, thanks so much for your vote of confidence,
but I'm not interested. I'm a businesswoman and people are

(30:40):
going to think I'm nuts if I do that, But
thank you for stopping by, you know, kind of like,
have a nice life and heaven. And he said, no, no,
everything you've done in your life has prepared you for this,
and you know what's going on, and you you know
you need to teach the world. And I said, again,
thank you so much. I'm really I'm not interested. So

(31:02):
I left a little bit after that, you guys, I
get in the car and just for kicks, on my phone,
I did an Internet search on Pope Clement the sixth.
Come to find out, this guy was in office during
the plague, the Black Plague that killed two thirds of Europe,
and he's best known for his prayers for the dying
and his prayers for the dead. And I thought, for

(31:24):
God's sake's Ryan, you can't make that up. And so
a couple of years went by and I was like, nah,
you know, as run of my businesses, doing the mom
and wife thing, all of that, I was busy. And
one day in church. I'm what I call a cafeteria Catholic.
I'm a practicing Kellich, but I take what makes sense

(31:44):
to me and the other nonsense I leave it, and
I'm not interested. And I'm sitting in church and I'm
sitting between it's a Sunday morning, I'm sitting between my
husband and my son, and the priest from the altar
during his sermon said, wouldn't it be nice if somebody
could really tell us if we're greeted by angels and
loved ones and escorted to heaven. And I'm getting elbowed

(32:08):
from both sides, from my husband and my son, and
I'm going, God, really from the pull bit, you're giving
me grief about this. And so that's when I said,
all right, you know, I'll write the book. Another interesting
point if I may share about when I wrote the book,

(32:28):
and then we can go into what happens if you want,
because there's some interesting nuances there. But when my mom died,
we were at our funeral and it was this big,
huge production funeral. I think there were thirteen priests on
the altar at her funeral mass. And there's a prayer
said at the end of every Roman Catholic funeral and
it's called in Paradisum, which in Latin translates to into Paradise,

(32:53):
and it talks about how the angels and the loved
ones will greet you and lead you into paradise. I
mean it is said at the end of every Catholic funeral.
And so when I was writing Angelic Attendants, I thought,
where did that come from? Where'd that originate? And I
learned that it began as a fifth century Gregorian chant,
and I thought, well, perhaps it took till the fifth

(33:15):
century till somebody was well educated enough that they could
read and write. And certainly some of the most learned
people in the fifth century were men living in monasteries
and synagogues, And so that led me to believe that
I think people have been able to see these twelve
phases since the beginning of time, and as we've become

(33:37):
more proof based, we've lost that. You know, it used
to be that people died in their homes or they
died in a loved one's home. Now a lot of
people die in the hospital or the nursing home because
we don't know how to deal with that. We lost
that as we've become more well educated. So again, I
love it when science catches up with wo woo and

(33:57):
shows that ninety percent of people can see their spirits
as they're transitioning.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, that's awesome. I wanted to ask, since you have
a Christian background Catholic background, when you got into the
mediumship part, like receiving messages from the other side of
the veil? Did you have any fear of sharing that

(34:24):
due to the backlash from the Christian community, because a
lot of the Christian community we found would say that
it's demonic that you're not supposed to talk to the
spirits of the dead or those kinds of things. Was
that ever like a hurdle you had to cross.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
No, Because I knew that all spirit was pure love,
and even as a little kid, that whole fire and
brimstone thing, I thought, that's nonsense. And I've had many
conversations with Clement and bazillions of other spirits over the
years who have said that's just been a mechanism to
control the masses with fear over the millennia and Kad
we just saw that in the pandemic. For Heaven's sakes,

(34:59):
people were doing stupid stuff because the people that were
in control were, you know, integrating this fear into the equation.
The Bible and most holy texts are full of, you know.
The Angel appeared to Joseph and said, go to best
go to Egypt because Herod's killing baby boys. The Angel

(35:21):
appeared to Mary said you're gonna it's gonna conceive and
you know, call him Jesus God. The angels appeared to
Moses that the it was Saul on his journey. God
spoke to him. We have burning bushes talking, we have
the Bibles full of this stuff. So it's interesting to

(35:43):
me that again, that whole fear thing of oh, if
you talk to spirit, you know that's the devil. The
devil doesn't exist. All that evil spirit stuff is all.
Here's what happens when somebody says to me, well, I
have the evil spirit following me and it's telling me
all these awful things, I'll say, that's your brain. What

(36:03):
happens is people go into fight or flight when they
perceive a spirit. And what happens when we're in fight
or flight, our cortisol levels go up. I mean, it's
an autonomic nervous system response. Nobody thinks, oh, I'm going
to go into fight or flight. Now you're just there.
The cortisol levels go up, the north been ephron levels.

(36:27):
The blak blood drains from the brain, goes to the
heart and the extremities, so they can run away from
whatever they're fearing, and they lose clarity. So I have
a great story about that that illustrates it. May I
share it? Yes, yes, Okay. One of my girlfriends, this

(36:49):
was before I met her. She said, oh, I had
an evil spirit try and come in my home one time.
I said, there are no evil spirits. Tell me about it,
and so she started to describe. I mean, it's to me.
And she had these really thick wooden front doors, double doors,
and as the spirit was coming through, it looked evil.

(37:09):
It looked distorted because spirits don't have any masks. It's
just all energy. So what I was watching the replay
in my mind's eye of what had happened. It was
like in those old movies when the bank robbers would
put pantyhose on their feet to just start their looks
so they couldn't be identified. No, I'm talking about. So

(37:29):
the spirit's coming through her front door and his face
is looking distorted. And she had an umbrella stand next
to her front door, and her son's golf club was
in there, and she said she went over and she
got the golf club and she was getting ready to
swing it at this spirit, and she said, you're not
welcome in my house. You need to leave right now,
and I said, well, do you think you would have

(37:51):
had much luck with the golf club with pure energy?
She said, well, no, I'm looking back at it now,
probably not. So what we did was we did an
instant replay and we got who the spirit was. We
got his name. He was a Confederate soldier that died
in the line of duty. He was looking for his daughter.

(38:13):
His daughter had reincarnated as my friend's daughter. We got
her name, her birthday, where she was born, We got
his name, all this information, his regimen, all that jazz got,
those spirits reunited, got him to heaven, and the rest
was history. So she was scared to death. She'd grown
up in a you know, Southern Christian faith and was

(38:38):
told that all spirits are demons, and that's that's just crazy.
One other point, when people say to me, well, when
you're talking to spirits, those are demons, I'll say, okay,
think about this. Do you ever pray? And they'll say yeah,
I pray all the time. And I said, well, to
whom are you praying? And they'll say Jesus or whomever. Great,

(39:00):
So when you're talking to Jesus, do you ever get answers?
And they say, yeah, all the time, and I'll say
so again, when you're praying, is Jesus sitting next to
you in human form on the couch having a conversation
with you? And I'll say no, I'll say, oh, you're
talking to Jesus's spirit. And you can just see their
eyes get bigger and their brain waves, you know, the

(39:22):
brain syneupsters are going, oh, my goodness. And they say, well,
I never thought of it that way, And I said,
we do it all all day long. We're getting guidance
from spirit all day long. It's just whether or not
we follow it. And that really will satisfy the curiosity
of the you know, of the ones that think it's
all evil spirits.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, that's what we like to do. I'd like to
try to help people just a little bit. Just look,
just look at it a little bit differently, and if
you change the way you look at things, the things
you look at begin to change.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Even like you said, I mean, people wholeheartedly stand by
every word of the Bible, but they want to freak
get the fact that Jesus went to the mountaintop and
met with Moses, who was deceased long before. You know, like,
it's not evil if Jesus did it. But you totally
forget that scriptures in there because the conditioning goes so deep.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, well, in past lives are mentioned in there a lot.
I think who was it they John the Baptist. Jesus said,
was Isaiah reincarnated or something?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Elijah, Yeah he was who I'm sorry, Elijah, Isaac. Yeah,
I mean it's all throughout the Bible. And Hades, which
was translated into Hell was a leper colony that was
outside of the city limits where people were banned to
Hades and you know it was they were going to

(40:45):
go burn in Hades. Well, yeah, it was the middle
of the desert first of all, and they were banished
there because they were lepers and they were trying to
keep the population healthy. So you guys brought that up
earlier that it's I find it fascinating when you look
at the original Aramaic of the Bible in particular, and

(41:06):
how it's been changed with the you know, Council of
Nicia and the King James version and Henry the Eighth
and you know, all throughout history and when it went
from when did it go Aramaic to Greek to Latin
to whatever?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
And then the English and then the you know, and
then the English words have been changed on us. And
so a unicorn might not be a unicorn that's mentioned
in the Bible, and hell might not be a fiery
lake of eternal torment, you know, which they're not. You know,
it's these different interpretations and they meant something back then,
but finding out what they meant, it's some really beautiful

(41:47):
poetic directions on what happens when you die or beginning
to transition. And these examples that were left for us
that go that are much older than Christianity, go back
to Egypt and go back to Mesopotamia and these guys
who who you know, there are different rights of passages

(42:07):
and things, and you know, these baptisms of fire that
they that Jesus taught that he would would bring. It
leads you through these fiery infernos that that everyone must
pass through these levels of purification if you will, and
it begins to make a little bit more sense than
just the devil one or the devil is trying to

(42:28):
get you or whatever. It's like the devil had you know, whatever.
That energy and force is that you know, the negative
force in the world. It has a role to play,
and the role shows up to make you better and
to maybe show you things that about yourself that you
need to change. And once you kind of submit to
that process, it begins to make a little bit more

(42:49):
sense of self denial and laying down your life for
others and those kind of things. And so those are
beautiful things to us that stand out about the Bible
these days.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I agree, And it's just different frequencies. So things that
feel good, our thoughts don't have a meaning when they
come into our heads. We assign them a meaning based
on our life's experience and what we've been taught. So
thoughts that feel good are high vibration, you can count
on those. Go with those thoughts that feel badly, that's

(43:21):
a low vibration. And it's always how we're interpreting that thought.
Because spirit communication is numerals. It's numeric. That's the universal
language is numbers. And our heads are like big decoding devices.
Our heads are like big satellite dishes that receive and

(43:42):
transmit frequencies. And then when spirit communication comes into our head,
which it does all day long, every day, our brains
decode that based on our human frame of reference. And
I use the analogy of you know, the spirit channel
is maybe classical music or disco. I grew up in

(44:03):
the disco era. You guys, you can't listen to disco
music and being a bad mood. It's just not possible.
Try it. And you know, those are the feel good channels,
and then you've got the I feel crappy channels is
what I call them. And those are like the old time,
whiny country music songs that are complaining about mama, the truck,

(44:24):
and the dull and you feel terrible listening to them.
I'm thinking, why does anybody listen to those? Back to
what you said a minute ago, Derek, about you know,
the baptism of fire in Pentecost. It's talked about how
the apostles had tongues of fire on their heads. Well,

(44:46):
we all live in Alabama, which is buckle of the
Bible Belt. You know, there are not many Catholics in Alabama. However,
between Birmingham and Huntsville, there's a shrine called the Shrine
of the Most Blessed Sacrament. That's a Catholic shrine and
people come from all over the world to go there,
and there've been all kinds of healings and miracles that

(45:08):
have happened there. So I've been there several times, and
they do a healing service in the undercroft of the Basilica.
I promise you every time I've been in there. During
the service, they have the people that want healings line
up along the communion rail and I'm scanning it energetically,

(45:29):
and it's like somebody's turning on a light switch all
the way down the communion rail. When somebody gets blessed,
it's like somebody's flipping a light switch in their energy
goes up. And then about halfway through the ceremony or
the whatever, the healing service, everybody in the congregation has
tongues of fire on top of their heads. I've seen

(45:50):
it four or five times, and the first time I
saw it, I thought, whoa, this is what they're talking
about in the Bible on Pentecost. So I believe that
those guys could see that the apostles. If I can
see it in Hantsville, Alabama, in this year, in this time,

(46:10):
I know that people way back when have been able
to see it as well. And there are places like
that all over the world. It doesn't have to be
a shrine or a Basilica. It can be a grove
of Magnoia trees or oak trees, or you know, a
field in the middle of a farm in Ireland. It
doesn't matter. That energy is there for the having and

(46:34):
there for the partaking. It's just a matter of tuning
into it. That's good.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
We don't want to end this conversation without talking about
our very little friends because you work with animals too,
and I just want to kind of guess ask a
little bit about that. And I'm assuming the science is
very similar to how it works for humans, but can
you explain the you know, how that works with with

(47:04):
animals who are undergoing sicknesses or animals who are trying
to tell us things like that.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, everything has a frequency, as I mentioned before, in
our heads are like big satellite dishes. And you think
about AI, you know, artificial intelligence. I use that acronym
too as attention intension when I'm teaching. So what's your
attention on your attentions on Fluffy, who's got a you know,
a sore paw? What's going on with Fluffy? So we

(47:33):
just think of Fluffy and I'll watch a laser beam
come from my body hooking a fluff Fluffy, like if
she's your dog, I'll hook into you first and then
from you to Fluffy and I'll and then I'll get
her on my radar. And again it's like I'm looking
at an X ray or s CT scanner and MRI
and we'll see what's going on. And we can communicate

(47:53):
with Fluffy as well, just like we can communicate with
any spirit. Whether it's attached to a body or not
is irrelevant because it's that spirit's energy with whom we're connecting.
It's also irrelevant whether they've reincarnated or not, because and
you didn't need to have known them. You just think
of Moses or Elvis or whoever that tunes your satellite

(48:18):
dishhead to Elvis's frequency, and then it opens a two
way communication. If he's reincarnated, as you know, whatever, we're
still able to communicate with his spirit and that's who
we want to talk to ultimately anyways. So it goes
the same with the animals. Say, it's the same with trees,

(48:39):
with plants, with bugs, birds, whatever, And then they'll be
a healing, something will be identified and then they'll be
a healing that happens, and I'll describe that to the owner.
And it's really fun working with pets because I would
say ninety nine percent of the time I'll be talking
with their human. My daughter in law's a veterinarian and

(49:02):
she calls the pets her patients and their owners are
her humans, which I think is hilarious. So I'll connect
in with the human and the pet. Maybe we'll be
sleeping on its bed in the corner, and all of
a sudden, once I connect in with the pet, they
come over most of the time and they're putting their

(49:23):
little noses up to the camera or whatever because they
know something's going on. The other thing that's interesting about pets,
I don't know if you guys have seen this, but
most people who have pets have pets can see spirits.
So you may be just one evening sitting around watching
a movie or something, and your dog or your cat

(49:44):
or both of them whatever are moving their head like
from one side of the room to the other, as
if they're watching somebody cross the room, and they're not upset,
they're just watching them, and you're thinking, Okay, what's up
with that. So when that happens at my house, I
tune on my turn on my radar and I'm like, Okay,
who's here or who came to talk to us? But

(50:08):
people will tell me that all the time that they've
seen their pets, you know, like they're watching people walk
around and they can't see anybody with their naked eye.
But that's what I teach. Once you turn on your radar,
then you can and you can communicate with them.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
You speaking of turning on the radar, have you ever
had anyone? And I'm sure you can help people who
have done this or in this. Now we probably need
to put this out there just because there's I get
a lot of messages people who have turned on the
radar and it's wide open and they can't turn it
off and it's a little bit overwhelming. Do you have

(50:47):
you gotten that from people? Or do people reach out
to you who need some assistance with turning it down
or turning it off.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
That's what I teach in my classes is you turn
it on in a nanosecond. It is not a requirement
that you meditate for an hour, twirl three times, jump
on your left foot, and raise your right hand. I mean,
if you want to do that, that's fine, or whatever
your technique is. But what I teach is instant on,
instant off. And then what I also teach is to

(51:15):
remove the bioplasmic streamers. When I talk about there's a
laser beam coming from my body here in Sweet Home,
Alabama is what I always say, and then it's connecting
to you in Sweet Home, Alabama, you're just south of
me as we're recording this. Then I want to pull
that connection out when I'm done with it. And that's

(51:37):
where people get, I think, kind of jammed up, is
they've got all these connections in their energy field that
they haven't removed. And it's not just people with whom
we're working in a woo woo capacity. It's the grocery
clerk at the checkout lane, it's the guy that cut

(51:58):
you off in traffic. It's you know, your partner, your kids,
you're whomever. And so every night when I go to bed,
before I say my evening prayers, I always pull out
all the bioplasmic streamers and they are real things. Physicists
can measure their frequency that is being sent between two

(52:19):
spirits like me and somebody with whom I'm working, whether
they've called into my show. I do a live show
every Thursday night. People call in from all over the
world and join us on the YouTube live stream and
ask questions from the buffet of psychicness. So I'm connecting
in with them anywhere in the world. And as I mentioned,

(52:40):
I can connect with you in a galaxy far far away.
I can connect with you if you're flying forty thousand
feet in the air off over an ocean. It doesn't matter.
It's just spirit connection.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
That's awesome because in a lot of other I don't
know if you'd call it a religion, I guess you would,
But in like the magical religions and circles, whenever they
begin their work, they open the circle, but they always
close the circle at the end. And you know, all
of this is new to a lot of people being

(53:11):
contacted by spirit, even being aware that there is something
outside of themselves that's greater. Yeah, I think it's super
important to teach people. Once you open something, you should
close it.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Well. And I think you bring up a really good
point too, because what I'm seeing is the zeitgeist is changing.
People are really interested in the spirituality side of the equation,
even within organized religion or cultures, and I'm seeing it
starting to loosen a lot and be more spiritual in nature,

(53:50):
and I think a lot of that, frankly, it's just
to the just due to the old guard Dyana off.
You know, are certainly my parents who were born in
the nineteen twenties and grandparents who were born at the
turn of the twentieth century, and their parents and their ancestors,
they did what they were taught. You know, here's what
the religion says.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You do.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
You do it. You don't ask questions, you just do it.
And when we remember that most of those cultures and
religions have existed during the time when people were illiterate,
even the priests and the ministers and all those guys.
A lot of those guys couldn't read or write, and
so it was passed down and they just did what

(54:33):
they were told. And then as people have become more
well educated and the ancestors are starting to die off
of the ones that just followed blindly without asking questions.
When I was in Catholic grade school, I asked a question,
I think it was in the second or third grade,
and I had a nun and tell me, well, that's

(54:54):
just a mystery. Well that's not satisfying. Yeah, you know,
can't you he told me more than no, you just
have to believe it's one of the mysteries.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah out there like yeah, well, we'll end up finding
out that what is hidden from some is openly revealed
to others.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Exactly it has been since the beginning of time. Yeah,
that's what the Bible says been squashed. Yeah, because people
in power want to control the masses, and how do
they control the masses with fear? M?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
So can we talk a little bit about how spirit
guides show up? Does everyone have a spirit guide? Are
they a part of a guardian angel? Are they a
part of your family history ancestors? If you will, like,
what is the spirit guide?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
And then I have a question too that might tie
into this one soon, go ahead and ask it if
you could maybe talk a little bit because you mentioned
earlier about talking about the process of what happens when
someone transitions over and that might tie into your questions.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Can they be a spirit guide?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
After? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah, yeah, spirit guides To answer your question first, Derek,
are spirits that, it's been my experience, that have lived lives,
sometimes many lives, Like my Pope Clement is my main
spirit guide and he only shows up with his Pope
pad on you guys, And I said to him one time,

(56:23):
you know, Clement, I know who you are. After all
these years, you don't have to wear the hat. And
he said, yeah, but it looks good, don't you think.
I mean, you're hilarious. They are so much fun. So
they are spirits who come in to help us explore
and experience things that we want to explore and experience.
And different spirit guides can show up at different times

(56:45):
in our lives. Case in point, I have a client
who was he's retired now, but at the time, he
was the CEO of a publicly traded, very large company,
and we were talking to a spare guide one day
and it was we were like in a conference room

(57:07):
and he had spirit guides in there like Ben Franklin
and Sam Walton and Mary kay Ash who started Mary
kay you know, the Pink Cadillac makeup company, and others
that we didn't know, titans of business and also inventors
and others. And he was saying, well, Mary kay Ash,

(57:31):
why would she be one of my spirit guides? And
I said, because she amassed hundreds of thousands of moms
and housewives who were stay at home women, at that
point and created this army of women who talked to
other women to sell cosmetics to them in their homes.
And I said, she's one of the all time great

(57:54):
sales managers and visionaries, and that's why she's at your table.
And so it reminded me of the Thinking Grow Rich
book by Napoleon Hill that was published in the n
eighteen thirties, and all of the titans of industry at
the time, the Carnegies, you know, JP Morgan, the Rockefellers,

(58:14):
so those guys, they all had what they called mastermind groups,
and they were all spirits. And Henry Ford, all those guys,
they all had spirit groups. So those were all spirit guides.
Angels are a different species. It's kind of like comparing
a daffodil to a schnauzer. You know, they're both real.

(58:39):
You can see them, you can feel them, you can
touch them. They're both spirits. But angels don't incarnate as humans.
They stay angels. They can take the form of humans.
We hear all kinds of stories about this man appeared
out of nowhere and lifted my car to help me
get my child who was stuck under the We all

(59:00):
freed that kind of a thing. So spirit guides will
come in at different times in our lives based on
what we're exploring. It's been my experience that there are
normally around seven that are around us all the time.
We're surrounded by bazillions of spirits all the time, but

(59:21):
seven seven spirit guides. Interestingly enough, to you guys, seven
in the Bible stands for spiritual perfection. You know, the
Bible's full of numbers because that's how they kept the
history going because people were illiterate. So that's why you
got the twelve tribes of this the twelve apostles. When
plus two equals three three is divine perfection. Seven spiritual perfection.

(59:44):
So I always see seven spirit guys and they look
to me when I first see them, when I get
them on my radar, is they kind of look like
a version of Father Time. Think Dumbledore from the Harry
Potter movies, or g and All from the Lord of
the Rings movies, old band, white beard, long hair, white cown,

(01:00:05):
that kind of thing. And then when we talk to
them individually, they morph into what they looked like in
the lifetime that pertains the most to what they're advising on.
So it's really fascinating to see. And most of the
time we can, especially if they've lived in the last

(01:00:26):
couple hundred years or even one hundred and fifty years.
Oftentimes we can find historic documentation that will corroborate what
their name is, what they did. Like I had a
client recently and there was a spirit guy that looked
like an Oxford professor, you know, was wearing the cap
and gown like we do it graduation here in America.

(01:00:47):
And we got his name, and we got when he
taught at Oxford, and we got what he taught, and
we were able to find him online, which is really
fun when that happens. We do that with past lives too.
A lot of times we can corroborate and validate the
information with historic dogens. So does that answer your question?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah for me for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah, okay, all right, So Aaron, what happens when somebody's
dying the twelve phases of transition is our spirit starts
to separate from our body and it exits through the
top of the head. It looks like a bubble, like
a speech bubble and a cartoon where the character's thoughts
or our words are And then that's phase one and

(01:01:29):
then the parents' spirits closest to the person who's dying
show up, and it's always on the maternal side. So
my mother's deceased, when I'm dying, my mother will be there.
She'll be the first one to show up. My father,
who's also deceased, will be there. If my mother was
still alive, it would be my maternal grandmother. If she

(01:01:50):
was still alive, it would be her mother. And on
the maternal line. That really surprised me. Number one, I thought, well,
maybe God has some life, you know, dying department in
heaven where he dispatches angels people to help him transition
or something. It's the mother spirit that calls in the angels.

(01:02:11):
It's the maternal spirit that calls in the other spirits,
and the pets spirits runs the show from the spirit world.
That totally surprised me. When I saw my me mom,
my grandmother, who had died six months prior to my
mom dying, I saw her running this show. The other
thing I find interesting is in many cultures and religions,

(01:02:33):
it's the maternal line that really is the source. Like
in Judaism, a child is not considered a Jew unless
the birth mother is a Jew when that child is born.
So I again I go back to people have been
able to see this. This is all ancient stuff, you know.

(01:02:54):
The goddess energy, that creative energy isis Mother Mary, on
an on, on and on that I think is very prevalent.
So then what happens is once the parents' spirits are
in place, Let's say, for just conversation's sake, we're talking
about somebody who's dying, who's laying in a bed, let's

(01:03:15):
say the dying person. Remember this, these phases happen regardless
of somebody dies instantly or for a prolonged period of time,
because time doesn't exists in the spirit world. So the
mother spirit brings in the angels. These are big old
angels as I picture them again my frame of reference.
That's what I was taught they look like in twelve

(01:03:37):
years of Catholic schools. Big wings, big way down, you know,
bare feet, rope belt. Is that what angel energy really
looks like. That's how it looks to me. Because spirits
are always going to show up in a way that
we can identify them based on our frame of reference. Certainly,
somebody growing up in an indigenous culture in the Middle
of the Amazon may see angel energy is just ball

(01:03:59):
of purple fuzz. Doesn't matter, it's just how do we
interpret that? And they show up, and as the person's
getting closer to death, that circle opens into a horseshoe
and then eventually a straight line, let's say, across the
foot of the bed. In the meantime, thousands and thousands
and thousands of spirits are showing up, and I call

(01:04:22):
them the Welcome to Heaven Committee. And that line of
angels is kind of like angelic crowd control is what
I call it, because it's the light of demarcation between
the spirits that are there to welcome the person and
you know, the human side of the equation. A couple
of interesting nuances that happen, excuse me, during the twelve phases.

(01:04:48):
About phase five, the animals, the pet spirits start to
show up, and as I mentioned earlier, they can be
farm animals or whatever, any kind of animal. I call
that the dog pas, but you may see horses or
elephants or whatever in there. And then about phase six,
there are two extra angels that show up and they

(01:05:09):
position themselves on either side of the spirit bubble. Again
that's attached on to the top of the head. And
when I saw this for the first time with my mom,
I thought, Hey, this is gonna be interesting. I mean,
I had no clue what they were doing there, but
I thought, okay, let's see what unfolds about phase nine.
You guys, those two angels on either side of the

(01:05:29):
spirit bubble, their wings start to move, and it reminded
me of a giant owl. You know, their wings are
massive and they're silent when they fly, but you could
almost feel the drag that they create when their wings move.
That's what it felt like, and I could feel this
upward pull. It reminded me of being in the car

(01:05:52):
wash at the end when they turned the dryer on
and it's sucking all the water off your car. So
as this movement of these angels wings progressed, the movement
of the wings created a vortex over my mother's head,
and I thought, all right, maybe that's how the spirit
detaches from the body. And in fact, that's what happened.

(01:06:14):
You talk to NDE people, they talk about going through
a tunnel or a vortex. That's what's happening. That's how
the spirit detaches from the body. And so when I
was writing angelic attendants. I thought, all right, you know
what's with this vortex. I could feel it, I could
see it, I could hear it. It was angels doing
this movement that was affecting things I could feel in

(01:06:36):
the physical realm. And so I did an Internet search
and I just put in the search bar owl wings vortex. Well,
you guys, what I learned was there's this phenomenon in
aeronautical engineering called the wingtip vortex. Have you ever heard
of that? Every bug, every bird, every kite, every plane,

(01:07:02):
every jet that flies the air as it flies over
the wings creates a vortex underneath the wing and it
causes left. There are tens of thousands of aeronautical engineering drawings, pictures,
articles about the wingtip vortex. Every pilot knows all about

(01:07:24):
the wingtip vortex. And I thought, oh my word, these
angels wings are creating the vortex that causes the upward
lift for the spirit to separate from the body. And
I thought, okay, science is catching up with wio wo
again here, because the wi wo has been around a
really long time. One other interesting point, when I see

(01:07:48):
the spirit disconnect, then those two angels on either side
of that spirit bubble escort them to heaven. Heaven looks
like a big plasma wall to me. Well, we can
talk about that in a minute if you want. But
when I was giving a talk about this couple of
years ago, I said, I always see the spar go
up and to the right, and I thought, I don't

(01:08:08):
know why, It's just what I always see. Well, there
was a physicist in the audience and he came up
to me afterwards and he said, I know why the
spirit goes to the right. And I said, okay, enlighten
me please, and he said, think about screwing a lit
of a jar on the jar. When you want it
to go down, you screw it clockwise. Excuse me, When

(01:08:30):
you want to lift it off, you screw it counterclockwise,
and the rotation is to the left and you lift it.
He said, that rotation of that spirit coming out of
that foe tags it's causing lifts, so it's going up
and to the right. And I thought, okay, again, science
is catching up with woo woo. I love it when

(01:08:51):
that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
That's so interesting. And two, like when you're learning about
energy and moving energies, the left is genuinely the side
that you receive from, and the right is where you
give and push out from. So that's cool too. One
thing you said that really hit home for me, as
the wingtip vortex, we a couple of years ago got

(01:09:17):
a little peak behind the veil, and spirit was revealing
things to us through watching the vultures. Eagle the word
eagle in the Bible, like rising on eagle's wings is
translated it's actually the word vulture.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
And so we were watching the vultures and how they spiral.
They continually spiral, and we're just taught that that's their
behavior searching for food. But what I could see is
that as these vultures are spiraling, they're creating a spiral
vortex that allows the spirit to lift of these dead

(01:09:57):
creatures who, if you know, their earthly life is done
and their work is more than just a clean up crew,
it's a transition crew.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Yeah. And then there's a there's a strange verse from
Jesus and I think it's in the Book of Matthew
where it says where the body lies there the eagles
will will gather also, and it's it's like just kind
of random or whatever. It's like what does that mean?
And then we begin to watch the eagles or the
vultures begin to spiral and create that vortex, just watching

(01:10:29):
them intuitively do it do it. And it's just been
a beautiful thing to see how nature is a part
of this eternal process of the you know, helping transition.
All of creation is a part of it, whether it's
you know that that is a really beautiful way to
honor God, and to honor creation is to allow them

(01:10:50):
to do what they do. And our body is going
back into the soil and giving back to the earth,
and our spirits ascending and rising on the wings of
eagles as well. So such such a beautiful process for
us and to be able to see it that way
in the scriptures too, And it's on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Have you guys ever been in a glider plane, which
is a plane without an engine. I've been in one
and in the desert in palm desert pump springs, and
it's pulled. The plane is lightweight, and it's pulled by
a tractor or a truck or something until it goes
fast enough that it can get lyft. And then the

(01:11:27):
glider and you can research it online. The glider goes
around and it flies and it looks for thermals. Thermals
are vortices of hot air over the desert that causes
the lift again. And when people go to certain land
things like a lot of the Indian Barrier, the Native

(01:11:49):
American and other indigenous burial grounds, you'll see vortices in
the land, so don't probably in America. Here's one of
the most famous ones. We've got one here in Alabama,
you guys called Gravity Hill. Do you know about that?
I haven't heard of it. Oh, you got to go there.
It's outside of Birmingham, not very far. And you put

(01:12:10):
your car facing a state highway at a stop sign
facing the highway.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Okay, I've seen this on the news.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Yeah, we've done it, and you put your car in
neutral and it pulls the car up the hill. We
did it three times. My husband and my son were
with me. Were like, what, no way. So of course
I had to scan it, like if you do a
Google search or a map quest on it. I mean,
it's on all of the all of the direction things.
But of course I had to scan it, and I thought, well,

(01:12:39):
there's probably some burial ground up there or something. There
wasn't It was a vortex. It wasn't. Some people call
them lay lines, you know, scientists and others call them
lay lines. But I could see a vortext that was pulling.
It was almost like somebody had put a you know,
like acker tow truck cord or chain on the back

(01:13:05):
of the car and they were winding it up and
you go back up the hill about five miles an hour.
When your car's in it's wild and people from lots
of different universities have come to study it, and nobody
has figured out what it is. But it's the vortex
in the land.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, we've been, we've been, uh we've had the privilege
here recently to travel to some of those spots. And
we just got back from from Shasta a couple of
weeks ago, and there's there. Those places are those places
for a reason, because there definitely are. They're portals and
and you know boor Texas and in these beautiful magical

(01:13:44):
places like even Shasta, like they're the I guess their
the motto and all of the signs say a place
where Heaven meets Earth, you know, and it's like that's
a vortex, Like that's a place where these two realms
connect and Uh, it's very interesting that once we understand
that we are vor Texas too, right, we are a
place where he touches the earth as well and kind

(01:14:05):
of embodying that. So whatever's happening in Chasta is also
happening in and around you, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Well, And I think you bring up a great point, Derek,
in that we are energy generators when we're in our bodies.
And you look at all of the pyramids around the world.
We think they're just in Egypt. No they're not. They're everywhere.
We've got a bunch of them here in America and
they're all over. And how their position based on the
latitude and longitudinal coordinates when we look at those, those

(01:14:36):
are all on vortices that are in the land that
make them energy generators. And there are countless stories about
people going in the bottom of a pyramid, maybe in
Bosnia or Egypt, where a lot of them have water
flowing through the bottom of them, and you know, water's
a great conductor of energy, And there are many stories

(01:14:57):
about people going in and they've got cancer or something
and they spend a couple of hours in the bowels
of the pyramid that come out and they don't have
cancer anymore, or they don't have diabetes, or they don't
have high blood pressure, and our bodies are vortices as well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Julie, we appreciate this time with you. This has been
so fun. If somebody's listening to this, I ain't want
to know more. Your school and you teach people how
to intuitively tap in and too to do all of
these things that we've been talking about. Is this something
that you do online as well or strictly online? Is
it in person? Can you give us a little bit

(01:15:37):
more info for people who are interested.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Sure? Everything is that, asks Julie Ryan dot com. And
my big class, my Buffet of psychicist class is called
Angelic Attendant Training, and I teach one in the spring
online and then I do one in person, and the
next in person one is going to be October twenty
fourth through the twenty sixth in Atlanta. We rent out

(01:16:00):
a hotel at the airport with free shuttle and people
flying from all over the world to partake in the
Buffet of Psychicness and learn how to do this over
the weekend. So that's really fun. I do have other
classes of just how to communicate with spirit, and then
the medical intuition just those topics alone that are available online,

(01:16:21):
but all of my classes have practice groups that come
with them, and that's the most important part because we
can attend a workshop or read a book or watch
an interview or something, but until we really do it
and get validation for what we're doing, we don't trust it,
and we're laying new neural pathways in the brain. It's

(01:16:44):
kind of like when you learn to drive. You know,
you watch a video at school, and you read a
book and then you go take your test, but until
you're behind the wheel with some frequency, you don't feel
comfortable with it. And so I think that's the most
important part of my classes is they all come with
discres Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
When you when you're in a safe space instead of
just being pushed out there and to the world, and
you can practice this stuff and that that's the beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Thing, right, And then everything else is asked Julie Ryan.
We release four shows a week, We've got five YouTube
channels and different languages. Everything's that ask Julie Ryan. It's
on all their socials and ask Julie Ryan dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
And then if they want to get that gift that
you're giving them the copy of the book, the digital
copy or audiobook in Spanish or in English. It's Julie
Ryangift dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Right correct, and it's also on the homepage of past
Julie Ryan dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Perfect, Julie, thank you so much for joining us. And uh,
it's been such a pleasure. We have to do this again.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Oh, it was just a delight to be with both
of you. Thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yes, thank you so much.

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