Did Jesus Really Come Back Already? The Shocking Biblical Evidence

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Responding the comments, responding the comments. So we have a
retreat coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
We do June twelfth through the fifteenth, and it's going
to be at Mount Shaft. Stuff in California. Beautiful Property,
Sacred Land, Celestial.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Portals, Celestial portals. Where's that at?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Is that on the Yeah, it's a portal like is.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
That at the UH They tell you that at the welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Center at the welcome center. Yeah, it's in the packet,
the little the little pamphlet you get when you go
to the welcome center. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about the
portals and the angelic activity there yesterday on our live
stream with Carin. So a lot of activity there. It's
almost like they're preparing for us to come. It's so cool.

(01:38):
And then we had a really cool synchronicity reading a
book called The Orchid that it is. The Orchid is
a retreat wellness center and when we were reading the book,
it is located at Mount Shasta, and so we had
planned to read this book with our community before we
even planned this retreat. And then we started reading it

(01:58):
and saw that it was like, what, so, that's a
huge divine synchronicity that happened, and just those little nudges saying, hey,
you're going in the right direction. You know, it's really
exciting and I don't know, it just kind of gives
me the butterflies a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, there's been a lot of synchronousities when it comes
to Mount Shasta. It's crazy that and uh, and then
we got like, you know, other people in our tribe
and fam that are holding retreats in that area and
all like asking us to come be a part of it,
you know, in the same.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Crazy couple of week time period too.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
There's something special about that place and in that time
it's pretty pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, and the energies are just even here, Like everything
feels so intense right now, like something big is about
to happen, some kind of shift, and I don't know,
I can feel it, and it's like we're going to
bring something fourth, maybe give birth to something new there.

(03:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I've just have.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Definitely been feeling a shift in the energies lately and
introspection and I've been led a lot kind of diving
into the past and looking at old memories and photos
and the sentimental feeling that comes up and finding ways
to honor your roots. And yeah, I don't know. I'm

(03:30):
just really excited. And it's going to be June twelfth
through the fifteenth in the most amazing place I've never been.
But I already know, like I just have this knowing
that it's going to be the most amazing place with
the most amazing people. We already have several in our
community who are coming, and if you want to go,
you can check out our tickets and all the information

(03:52):
on our website at cr dot school. And we have
a special group too for people who are going, where
you can chat and kind of introduce yourself, maybe meeting
each other a little bit beforehand and you can touch.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah community page see her. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Uh, Kimberly's with us in the live chat LEVI co
Creation Healings with Mother Earth. She says, check the base
of the mountain. The base of the mountain. Yeah, we had.
We did a livestream with our friend Corinne Grillo, who's
it's her property that we're going to be hosting it on.
And they were saying they met last week and they

(04:32):
had some pretty wild experiences with lights and orbs and
stuff coming out of the mountain just flying all around
them and stuff. Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
She said they just hung up a bunch of hammocks
and were out there relaxing and you know, just on
wonder and expecting. And she said they all they showed
up like many different orbs and she was like, this
is awesome, guys, but can you please come back again
in about a month.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. Yeah. And we're not always we're not always show
up when you want us two, but we're always on time.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You just have to pay attention.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah. Yeah. So if anybody has any questions about anything,
let us know. We'd like to make ourselves available and
hang out with the community, hang out with the family.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. We don't do live streams as much as in
the past. Yeah, so it's kind of fun to be
live and be able to take questions.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
And yeah, and I think we're yeah Facebook, I think
we're live on Facebook too cool. What's up? Mark Numerous Luminosity?
What's that? Brother? Much love? Much love? So what have
you been looking into Bible or otherwise spiritual?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I'm not gonna lie. I haven't read a lot. I
haven't read a lot of Bible lately, just looking up
things here and there when my mind kind of wanders
to something like yesterday we were talking about ways to
ways to approach and encounter with God and experience and

(06:17):
how it's important to have to be broken and know
that you're broken, like, yes, we are powerful, we are
the Kingdom is inside of us, like we are powerful beings.
But to come with humility and know that without him
we're nothing. But He's always with us. And then the

(06:38):
scripture in Psalms where talks about He'll be near to
those who are of broken and contricte spirit, and he'll
restore your soul. Because we talked about we give pieces
of ourself away to relationships or pieces of our soul
might be taken from traumas we've been through or you know,

(07:01):
these these fragments happen throughout our life, things that we
go through, just just life and experience. And then God is,
you know, the Potter, and he has a beautiful way
of taking all those fragmented pieces and making something beautiful
out of them again, bringing them back together, restoring them
back as a whole. And uh so I was just

(07:22):
reading a little bit of Psalms yesterday because of that.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good scripture. He restores my soul.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And then also gotten some I won't say they're mean
comments because I think the people really mean well. But
on YouTube, I have posted a few shorts, like I
try to post one a day, one short clip a
day because people in the community, specifically Diana has has

(07:55):
said like she doesn't have a lot of time to
listen to the long form right now, but she loves
the little shorts, just little moments of inspiration. So anyway,
a lot of those several have been about being able
to see God in all and through all, and in
Christ as well. And so I've been called a lot
of names, like people were saying that's not Christianity. That's pantheism.

(08:22):
You don't have Christ. You need a relationship with Christ.
Christ is only in God's children, not the children of
other faiths. And I'm like, well, hold on, I thought
we were all God's children. You're excluding them because they
you know, don't look like you or don't use the
same terminology as you, Like, we're all God's children. And

(08:45):
so I've been looking into two scriptures specifically. One is
about seeing the Father in all that he is in all,
and the other was specifically Christ being in all and
through all.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah. Yeah, it's uh, he turns none away. There's none
that's you know, it's it's weird. It kind of lean
leans into what we've been talking about. It's like we
read the Bible and automatically assume like we're the good
guys and we are the good people, and you know,

(09:22):
we're assuming. We're like projecting our story into you know,
whatever we feel like resonates with us, and we can't.
It's hard to look at it from an objective perspective
that we you know, you could be the bad guys,
like those people that it's talking about are going to hell.
So even that whether you put yourself in that shoe,

(09:43):
in those shoes. That's that's a little bit harder to do.
Maybe you were going to hell and now you're not,
and you put yourself in that perspective, but the perspective
of you know, who are those people that he's talking to?
And so when you know, when you read those tech exton,
you know, you somebody comes to mind when it's like,

(10:06):
you know, there are people that's not God's children and
it's you you know kind of thing. It's like, was
it first of all? Was it talking about people or
was it talking about spirits? Was it? You know that
that's a that's how we got to reinterpret it and
look at it differently, because people think they have it
all figured out, but it's very hard to do because

(10:29):
of the conditioning, because of the program. And we talked
a good bit about it yesterday. But like you can't
even question stuff. I even a friend of mine posted
a scripture you know about that you know, touch not
mine anointed and do my profits no harm. And he
posted he said that he said even Miriam was stricken

(10:50):
with leprosy or something for criticizing Moses, for asking questions
and criticizing Moses like his own sister was like stricken
by God for questioning the man of God. So you
don't need to question things. And I know the dude
means well when he posted it. But that's just like

(11:11):
these little nudges and cues of like, you know, hey,
you need to get back in line and stop asking
you ask too many questions.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, well, that's.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
How deep the conditioning goes, because I know that God
means well, and I'm at the place of like, maybe
we should ask questions about Moses, Maybe we should ask
questions about all these people. Maybe you should ask questions
about Jesus and the serpent in the garden and who
is who?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Because you've we've always just accepted face value what we've
been told that there is one God and when it
says God or Father or Lord in the Bible, that's
who it's talking about, the God. That when the Bible
is talking to a people, he's talking.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
To you as a human only the good people.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
As a human being specifically. And then you know also
human angels, the orders of things. There's a hierarchy. So
is it talking to me or is it talking to
the watchers or the watchers of the watchers, Like it's
important to have contexts and know who's being addressed. And

(12:16):
as far as the gods go, in our studies, we've
been seeing that like almost every time a god comes
to a man with a proposal, there's two. It's like
most of the time, well, I won't say most of
the time, but multiple times there are more than one,
more than one proposal being presentsed most of the time,

(12:38):
and they get to you know, weigh it out and
choose who they want to serve.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
But they don't get so the devil, whatever the devil is,
is a it's you know, subtle, it's it's slick and sly,
like you know, he doesn't come to, Hey, I'm the
devil and I'm going to make a pack with you
give me blood.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It doesn't show up with horns and a red skin
and point detail.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Not in No, that's why we got to watch out
right and be guard our hearts.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And yeah, because the heart is deceitful and you think
you're doing the right thing and play off of your
you know, want to help or want to teach, like
all those people like in the comment sections, they're like
you can like Satan is playing off of their desire
to help people, but they're hurting people in the midst

(13:31):
of it, and they have no idea or they don't care,
you know, and it's like, I don't care about your feelings.
I don't care about you know, what you believe. I
don't care about your faith. I care about the truth.
And the truth is what they have. It's only what
they have.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, well, we have a good question from numinous luminosity.
How can we restore the divine feminine to Christianity?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Christianity? Yeah, I think we're still learning. I think that,
you know, spending time in nature does it. Having the
having the desire to want to do it is the
first step. Because once you have the desire, then I
think that the mother and the divine feminine shows you

(14:26):
how to restore it. By first of all, you know,
a commandment is to honor thy father and thy mother.
Christians don't do that, not the Christians that we have
come up with. It's only you honor the father. They don't.
You don't honor your father and mother. You honor the father,

(14:47):
father God. What about the mother aspect? What that's talking
about your physical mother? No, Jesus. Jesus told us straight
up when when it wasn't about physical You know, my
my physical mother is not my mother. So as you're
interpreting the scriptures, you should know that when you see mother,
it's not talking about your physical mother. Yeah, maybe talking

(15:08):
about your spiritual mother and be talking about your earthly
mother or your heavenly father, you know. And so there's, uh,
there is a detachment that happened worldwide where the feminine
was cut off, the goddess energy was cut off, women
were made less than and and it's still perpetuated in

(15:30):
that so called patriarchy, if you will. And uh, so
how do we how do we honor it? It's like
it's first of all, I think honoring it in yourself,
like honoring those feminine qualities, nurturing qualities, vulnerable qualities, and
then in other people, uh, but also honoring it in

(15:51):
physical women in your life. Look at it like what's
the things closest to you that can honor the feminine
and start doing it that way. So I think that
if you are a Christian and a part of Christianity
and you do that in general, a rioting tide raises
all the ships and then it starts showing like what's
possible because once you start honoring the feminine or the mother,

(16:17):
you know, divine feminine energy, she starts honoring you and
where attention goes, energy flows. So just having the desire
to want to do that and to stand up you
know for women, women in the Bible, and you start
looking into their stories. Man, that's how you start doing it.

(16:38):
I think it's just a perfect place to start, Like
how do we start, how do we bring it into
from a Christian perspective? Then you what it changes? Your mindset,
changes your consciousness of how you look at all things feminine,
and you start not only just honoring the father or
the masculine, but both sides, and you understand that it
takes a father and a mother for life and eternal

(17:02):
life to even happen.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I can ask you a hard question. I'm gonna ask
it anyway, So what would you say to people Christians
specifically who have a hard time honoring the father and
mother because they see it as two gods like they've
always seen Father God and been taught Father God. But
how do they how do they integrate the mother into

(17:26):
that and be able to see it as the one
true God, the Creator? Because I know even for me,
you know, coming into it was a little difficult because
you don't want to worship you know, false gods or
multiple gods. But how do they how can they integrate
and see the mother as a part of the one.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, you know, all religions, all traditions are going to
show you, like God is one, and that oneness is
neither male nor female. Yeah, it's it's it's just one.
It's it's all. And then it divides it self into
different separate parts so that you can commune with it

(18:06):
in different personifications. So if you look at God as
being the one neither male nor female, so the one
true God that is in all and through all that's
neither male nor female, meaning it doesn't have a penis
or genitals. And then so but it divides itself into two, right,

(18:29):
so male and female, so that they can come together
and procreate and make more. And then they divide themselves
into more as they begin to populate the earth, you know,
and so and then create other beings down from itself.
So looking at it as a hierarchy that goes back
to one, but it male and female, father and mother

(18:56):
going down and down. So I think that looking at
the one supreme true God as neither male nor female,
as being an expression enough all and you worship that
God through the Father. We get there through Christ, right,
but we also get there through the Mother as well,
because you can't have one without the other. Yeah, And
so I think that looking at God a little bit

(19:18):
differently versus just being a man in the sky man
the sky is cool. But look at the man in
the sky as a doorway to the man in the universe.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Two a doorways the man in the multiverse. Right, it's
this bigger, bigger picture that eventually leads back to the one,
no matter how far you know, up or down you
want to go. I think you know, that's what helps
it for me versus two separate entities.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, good answer. And it's interesting too. Like to
help me put it into perspective, I can think of
myself and my archetypes, right, Like I'm a friend, I'm
a mother, I'm a wife. All of these things have
different strengths, qualities, duties, and like when my daughter needs

(20:08):
a mother, I can hold her, you know, and comfort
her and provide for her and you know, send our
money for Chick fil A or what you know, Like
I can feed her like all of those things that
a mother does, you know. And when I have a friend,
I can go and listen, be a good listener, support them,

(20:32):
buy them gifts on their birthday. You know, these different
different aspects of myself, Like they're all me, but each
different part comes out when it's needed. So sometimes we
do need the mother. We need to go sit in
nature and absorb the sunshine and feel the breeze and

(20:53):
swim in the river and let the water purify us.
Sit on the ground and let the earth ground our energy.
Sometimes we do need to contact the Father, you know,
the aspect, the one to look up to, the protector,
the provider, But it all comes from that same one
divine source. They're just different aspects.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, you kind of get that into the New Testament.
There's this instance where the disciples and stuff were debating
and arguing about who's sect that they're under. We follow
Paul or we follow Barnabas or no, we're following Peter
and Peter's different or Peter teaches to uphold the law
and all this kind of stuff, and so they were

(21:36):
like dividing themselves and then it comes up it's like,
listen is Christ divided like these people are going to
point you to Christ, so why, you know, continue to
and Christ is going to point you back to God,
So you know, why continue to divide yourself and not

(22:00):
see how these are steps or portals or doorways to Christ.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I think one way to reintegrate the divine feminine into
Christianity is to stop just believing the things that float
on the surface, like Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. Like
that's not even true. It's not in the scriptures that
she was a prostitute. I don't know who started that,

(22:31):
Like how did that get perpetuated that somebody just assumed
or decided she was the one called I wrote about it,
and then people just accepted it as fact. Mary Magdalene
was not a prostitute. She was, you know, very devout
follower of Christ, the first one to see him when
he you know, resurrected. And even just you know, for

(22:55):
me apologizing like go out and say I'm sorry, Like
I'm sorry that I denied this aspect of my faith
for so long. And you know, when somebody hurts your
feelings or dishonors you, an honest apology can go a
long way to just say I'm sorry and will you

(23:18):
please forgive me? And I honor you. It goes a
long way to start seeing them as you know, divine.
And it's strange how much kickback you get when you
do start honoring Mary Magdalene and the Mother Mary, because
people then think you worship them instead of Christ and

(23:38):
that's not true.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well yeah, then they accuse you of worshiping trees. Yeah,
you got it, but you honor. It's like it's the
same word though, you know, that's the same with people. Yeah,
they don't like because if you're not honoring, then then
you're doing what you're dishonoring. To ignore is to dishonor,
especially when you know the earth is crying out and

(24:03):
the scriptures tell you that the earth is crying out
for the Son to God to come forth. All creation
is groaning. Yeah, and what son is is it that
with disrespect or deny his mother? No? No, you know,
it's just even nature can show you these things. Yeah,

(24:24):
but you know we've been so programmed to turn a
blind eye to to that aspect of God.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, and so many people just they think it's another
religion to honor nature, and it's not. It's all a
part of God. It's his creation. He used his breath
to create these things. You know.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, I don't know, it's it's as hard to it's
hard to look at it. I mean, like how and why,
because like Christianity was the religion that came forth and
killed everybody who did that. Yeah, like they killed everybody
who honored the planet. You know, these people with the sword,

(25:04):
and it's so hard to you know, disassociate them from
Jesus Christianity because they're so called his followers and you know,
they brought that message throughout the whole earth, but they
ended up you know, doing it with the sword and
you know, telling you, telling you good stuff, but tricking

(25:26):
you and killing you. These were all Christians that did it.
They dishonored people and colonize the entire like every continent,
and so it's like it's it's hard to navigate. Yeah,
and there's a lot there's a people. The reason why

(25:47):
people deconstruct and leave and never come back to to
Christianity once they you know, get a they start seeing
God and all and seeing seeing the divine feminine and
then see how the church, how they do what they do.
So it's like, you know I can't obviously can't. You
can't blame them, but you still want to people who

(26:10):
deconstruct you want to, you know, try to challenge them
or prompt them to hold on to the good and
not throw the baby out with the bathwater. But it
is very hard.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
To do it is, you know. And I think so
many Christians, mystical Christians, are awakening to these things that
God is and Christ is teaching us without a teacher.
He is becoming the teacher. You know. Then maybe we
can call Christianity back to what it should be eventually

(26:42):
and to let go of some of the the falsehoods
that have been perpetuated and get back into relationship.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, but they'll tell you very quick that's that, that's
not Christianity. It's pantheons them or whatever the case is,
once you start sitting, once you start because they did
the same thing to Christ, and they did the same
thing to his disciples though, so like that is what
we call Christianity, Like whatever they had. Yeah, and it's like,

(27:10):
you know, trying to get you to follow a religion
or a stream or an orthodoxy or the true teachings
and so on, y'all colonized the earth, y'all killed people.
I didn't read any of that in the scriptures, you know,
and that's what we're supposed to follow. That's what y'all.
Y'all read that book, and y'all it told y'all to
do that. Hold on, somebody got some kind of lines

(27:33):
crossed somewhere, you.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Know, Yeah, Jesus, Jesus met people where they were, you know,
like even the lepers and the crippled, lame people, people
that everyone else passed by and thought they were gross
or they were demonic, you know, the ones who, oh,
he's crippled because his father must have sinned, or he's

(27:59):
crippled because he has a And you know, Jesus didn't
just pass them by. He met them where they were
and restored them and restored you know, their souls and
their bodies ended up getting restored. So like, yeah, I
don't know how you can really read about Christ and

(28:19):
what he stood for and think that it means division,
like because him becoming the door and the way, the way,
the truth and the life. People read that and they
don't see it as him opening away for people who
were not allowed in. They see that as nobody can

(28:43):
get in unless they use the name Jesus Christ, like
they use that beautiful concept of him becoming a new
door to shut people out, and it's totally the opposite
of the heart of what he taught and practiced and
stood for in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, I mean he's got. I think they do it
for a reason though, Like it's it's not you know,
it's a and then you have to get to the
place where you honor all that kind of stuff. And
maybe God's protecting those people. When Jesus is saying, listen,
I have sheep that are not of this fold, that
you know, not of like you have brothers and sisters

(29:24):
that I'm there, he didn't say I want you to
go find them, Yeah, because because what happens when they
find them, they'll kill them.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know He's he tell them straight up, listen. You
think you got to figure it out, there's and then
you know all of these times that they think they
haven't figured out or they're the only ones, like there's
nobody who serves God like us, We're the only ones.
He's like, man, I got I forgot the number four
hundred seven, four hundred prophets who haven't bowed a nee
to you know, to bail you think you're the only one,

(29:54):
or you and your your group, you and your religion,
or you're uh denomination more dividing, right, yeap, dividing it
into denominations and one of their you know, Jordan Maxwell
tell you straight up, that's what you do to money.
You divide it into denominations of tens and twenties and thirties.

(30:14):
And they do that with people currents, and the people
do it with religion, and so it's a you know,
maybe it's God protecting those people that they can't see
it as a part of themselves, and it's they see
them as a part of the others, and they you know,
they stick, they leave, maybe they leave them alone.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, but I don't know because if they didn't kill them,
they would probably try to change them in some way,
conform them. And you know, we're not all meant to
be exactly a like carbon copies. That would be boring.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah. It makes it to where like you know, that
idea is like you don't want to even share this
is this, you know, titled this about biblical mysteries, like
the mysteries are mystery for a reason, you know, And
you find the mystery of Christ. Christ in you, Christ
and who Christians? Yeah, Christ, the Christians, no Christ in everyone,

(31:14):
Christ in me, Christ in you. And to be able
to honor that, that's the great mystery. And for somebody
to be able to look at a person or a
theology or a belief system and not see Christ, that's
because their own eyes are blind and opaque, to think
that there's no place nowhere you can go. If Christ

(31:36):
is in all and through all, he told us. I
repeat this so much, but he told his disciples that's
how you would communicate with him. And that's how you
are communicating with them and honoring him. What you have
done unto the least of these you have done unto me.
When you visited me in prison. He was speaking Japanese
to them. They had no idea what he was talking about.

(31:58):
When did you go to prison? When did we give
you a water when you were thirsty? You never asked
me for water? Exactly, I didn't have to. Why should
I have to? Like all of these ways that you
have honored anybody who needed help or whatever, is how
you honor and commune with me?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, good old Jesus, I just like I can imagine
him going around like on Avatar The Last Airbender when
Sokcho was with the Gypsies and he kept smacking his forehead.
He's like, oh gosh, like he ended up with a
red spot on his forehead. I wonder if Jesus had
a red spot on his forehead from going oh gosh,

(32:37):
you guys, you don't get it.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
They're speaking to him in parables, and then they're interpreting
the parables literally, like he's talking to him about you know,
be you know, beware of the Leaven of the Pharisees
in the Leaven of Herod. I think it's in Mark seven.
And they're like, and he's like, I have uh. He
starts using this analogy about food, you know, he's so
much spiritual food, and they're like, is he Is he

(33:02):
dissing us because we didn't bring food with us. Yeah,
And they're just all like taking it literal, which is
what we do, you know, and make it about something else.
And he's like, you guys have totally missed it. Even
his disciples, the ones that were you know, so called
physically walking with them, didn't understand the parables, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
We don't you know, it's all levels and and a journey,
and we will never stop being students. I'm sure you
could read the same parable, you know, in a couple
of years, and it means something completely different to you,
depending on where you are. Yeah, that's the beauty of
the living word.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, it's a live, living, sharper than any to.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It grows with you. Say hey to Enoch. We have
somebody named Enoch in the YouTube chat what's up from Maryland?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Elliott says, are you goths? Are you guys goths? Yes,
we're Gothics. I'm not Gothic, so yeah, let us let
us know. It's an interesting comment from Mark because I

(34:14):
know for a fact that Jesus father and mother was
God elohem plurized singular l L. Should I feminine double
breasted one? Yeah? Or it's not double breasted one, it's
the many breasted one. That's what it translates to. And

(34:34):
if you go into antiquity, you'll see terra Cotta and
you'll see terrifin statues of the mini breasted one, and
it's a female deity with like three rows or something
like that of breast. Very strange. It's not a Christian
it's not Christian symbolism. So we use these words about

(34:55):
the ancient of days and the many breasted one, and
you see what it looks like. It's a woman and
with like I don't know how many breasts, like breasts
all over her body. That symbolized, you know, fertility and
nurturing the young. And it's a name that's used for God.
But that's not like el Shouldaie isn't just one name though,
right right, like all of that God has, you know,

(35:19):
it depends on who you ask. How many names there's
you know, certain traditions where there's seventy the seventy names
of God or one hundred names of God or whatever.
And then and then we mock Hindus because they have
thousands of names of God. But it works the same way.
You know that these are just personifications of the one
true God, which is in Hinduism, you'll call it Brahma,

(35:43):
which is the one. And then the One divides itself
into the many. And then so you have the one
true God in the ancient Mesopotamian religions that divides itself
into El Shaudai and then Eleon then too all of
the all the other elves.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I even I even read about the Hindus read or
heard it somewhere that they make them blue so that
they don't confuse it as a person.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
No, that was so cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like what
color was Jesus? And when? Now where you know, there's
one of the biggest debates, and you know, Christians fight
over the Christ. He's black, No, he was white? No,
he was brown skinned actually. And then so you have
the Hindu tradition where they have Christna, which is which
means Christ Chris Christo's like Christna Christ and he's blue. Yeah,

(36:39):
it's like, like, don't get it confused. I'm neither white
nor black, you know, like what it should be, you know,
because you know it's like, oh the color color matters,
It matters to you, they don't, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
And uh, and maybe you should get to a place
where color don't matter.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, because newsflash, this that we are wearing, this little
meat suit, is not who we are. It's not it's
a vessel. Who we are comes from another place where
aliens here wearing these little meat suits and they're all different.
But it's not who we are. It's just like the
vehicle that we drive while we're here.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Shout out to Tim and Miranda widow Son, what's up, guys,
Thanks for hanging out with us on YouTube, and Melissa's
with us on Facebook, see she's there, and a bunch
of other people just harked me to read all the names.
So if y'all have a question or comment, let us know.

(37:45):
Tim Miranda says, we've avoided having to feel pain or
faced them or faced themselves Jesus taught in First Corinthians
through sixteen. Do you not know that you are God's
temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you?
We must get to know ourselves.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, we should. Like it's interesting. I think I shared
something today about emotions and feelings that we have, like pain, grief, sorrow, joy, ecstasy, happiness,
and we tend to like label them good or bad,
Like there's a list that goes, you know, ecstasy would

(38:24):
be at the top, and then joy and then you
know whatever down to grief and sorrow and pain being
at the bottom. But to see it more as a bubble,
and they're all in this this bubble and just as
they rise to the surface to feel it, to learn
what it's there to teach you and show you, and

(38:46):
then you know it'll pass and it'll sink back down
and something else will rise up. But to see it
more as a like a pot full of different things
that come to the surface at different times. None is
better than the other. They're all there for a purpose
to teach us something, to reveal something that's in us,
maybe that needs to be healed. I know that that's

(39:08):
what happened to me with a lot of pain and grief.
But grief is just love. It's a different form of love.
It's love that you didn't get to give somebody and
for whatever reason, you don't get to and that love
that you didn't get to give them is turns into grief.

(39:30):
It's not a bad thing. It's a beautiful thing, but
it's just uncomfortable. And we do demonize the uncomfortable a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, yep, it's easier to you know, to think that
what you have with you now is dan all be
all like it's always going to be that way, And
that's how you you honor God by going to church,

(39:59):
you honor you know that kind of thing where He's like,
hold on this place is temporary, and how long are
you going to like, how long am I going to
be with you? You're not gonna have me with you always,
but you have the Holy Spirit, and the spirit of
truth comes forth so that you learn how to honor
Christ in all things, in all and through all. We
sung it in you know, church song, All in all,

(40:22):
and you know, we talk about a lot of the
scriptures says, if I make my bed in hell, there
you are with me. If I snd into the heights
of the heavens, there you are with me. How can
God be in both places at both times? If God
is not in all and through all and the author
of it, you know, So it's your ability. There's some
people that you know, we walk through like states of

(40:49):
consciousness in this realm and this earth that are that
are hellish, and then then and then turn around to
be in a heavenly consciousness, heavenly mind state. It feels
like a real, blissful reality. And then at the drop
of a hat you can be in a hellish reality.
But it's at all The beauty is in the eye

(41:10):
of the beholder. It's the person who's going through that.
Are you able to hang on? Are you able to
gaze into it long enough to see Christ in it?
Because he says, I'm with you. I'll never leave you,
never forsake you. So if you, if you do, make
your bed in hell, whether you die and go to hell,
or whether you are walking through a season of hell,
which I believe in both, you know what I'm saying,

(41:31):
like and I believe in literal heavens as far as
where we're at now and in the sky and then,
but also states of consciousness where it is in you
and around you and you become so hyper aware of
it where you're just like walking in that realm, and
and both are real, and christis in both. Christ is
in hell, but he's also in heaven. It's everywhere you go,

(41:56):
everywhere you look, and it's you. It's your ability, and
it's only up to you to be able to work
out your own salvation, to see experience up with and honor.
So that's how you honor Christ. But that's also how
you honor the feminine, as he went back to the question,
how do you honor the divine feminine or the mother?

(42:16):
It's only up to you. It's nobody else's job. And
once you see it, you begin to do it. And
then you begin to see it and your eyes become opened,
and the veil is pulled back and you get shown
once I forefeel like like once you somewhat trust it,
because if God's protecting these people to keep it a

(42:37):
mystery from you, it's a form of protection. People got
to understand veils, like I got songs about pull back
the veil, and the veil and the temple was torn
and these kind of things. We can come behind the veil,
like when you're ready, Yeah, when you're ready, it's the
Great marriage Supper with Christ, when we come together and

(42:59):
become one with Christ, he pulls back our veil. But
the veil is there to protect you. And in ancient tradition,
like the veil was there to protect the woman from
evil spirits from demons. And there's things that if you
saw and you knew, real hellless realms like that are
around you at all times. And there's a veil that

(43:21):
why you can't see it or experience it. If you
knew it was there, it would drive you into madness.
You might kill yourself like this just how and people
do when you go behind the veil and enter in
through a different gait when you're not ready. So the
veils exist to protect to keep people. It's like a
gate that keeps certain things in and certain things out.

(43:45):
So at this point, I you know, I'm thankful for
the matrix. I'm thankful for the veils, and I don't
want to open up a door or any of that
stuff before I need to. It is Christ that is
the only the one who is worthy to open those
seals and reveal to you when you're ready. So stop,

(44:07):
don't be so itchy, you know, just kind of be
in that season that you're in and look for Christ
and be obedient, and when it's time, he'll pull back
the veil. Because I think that's why people are dishonoring
all these other traditions or seeing God in a different light.
They don't recognize that it's him, yeah, because they're looking

(44:29):
at it through eyes that are blurry, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah. And to just be present to like on the
journey wherever you are, to know that, like the now
moment is the only moment that you ever have. Not
to look to the future or be like when I
can finally see behind the veil, Like find ways to
honor and appreciate where you are now because now is
all that exists. Really, you can always you can always

(44:56):
set goals and strive I'm not saying that like to
do better and achieve more, but really we have to
learn how to exist in the present and stop looking
for the next moment, the next encounter like because it's
here now doesn't matter. If, like we were saying on
our group call last night, if all you have is

(45:16):
a floor, you can sit on the floor and encounter
the Holy Spirit. If you don't have a floor, the
ground will always support you. The Mother is there, she
would always support you. Just sit on the ground, reach out, connect.
You don't need anything outside of yourself, outside of your
immediate now moment. It's as close as your next breath.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
That's the beautiful thing that none are rejected like. You
just use what you.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Have, Yeah with you and sometimes you take that breath
and he pulls the veil back a little bit and
it's you know, it can be beautiful and it can
be scary. Are you're ready? He knows?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Tim and Miranda, we got time for one more question.
If anybody has a question they want us to dive into,
or want our opinion on something, just let us know
here in the comments, Facebook or YouTube wherever you're watching
Tim Miranda, Tim and Miranda say John one one states
that in the beginning was the word, and the word
was with God. The word was God. Jesus was present

(46:27):
for the creation. Jesus was was the feminine.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, once you encounter him
and you're able to see him in all from beginning
to end, Before before the earth began, he still existed.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Before there was time. Yeah, don't do that. Who sings that?
That's caveman's call. Let them let them sing it. Let
them sing you do good, let them sing it.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I didn't know who sung it.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I did, Sorry, cabman. It's called good old Yeah. Mm hmm.
This is a This is an interesting question from Mark
sis Bro and says, what's your best definition of the
word faith. It's an interesting question, Yeah, because we have

(47:24):
There's there's one thing that probably comes to mind first,
but it's not really what it means.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
The church definition.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
The church definition is like believing in the unseen, like
I'm gonna hold I'm going to believe in this thing
that I cannot see, even though I cannot see it.
So you have faith in God but you haven't seen God.
You have faith in Jesus, but you haven't seen Jesus.
I have faith that God will provide even though I

(47:49):
don't see provisions. So we look at that as like
what faith means. But faith really is like the real
definition or the best definition is what you're asking is is.
I think it ties into it a little bit, but
it's like it is your declaration of faith. It is
it is, It is what you believe. Yeah, and it's

(48:11):
and it has nothing to do with with seeing or not.
You know that idea of faith is believing what you
can't see. But faith is is like the declaration of
what you believe, whether you see it or not. So
I think that's where it does kind of piggyback into
what the scriptures we talk about faith is, you know,

(48:33):
evidence of things hopeful in the substance of things unseen.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah. I wanted to say that, but I knew I
would mess up.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I probably I probably messed it up too.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
So yeah, faith, for me, it's it is a hard
question now because things have changed so much, Like because
I used to think it was that belief and it
is for some people belief in things that you can't
see and you have no evidence of, Well.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
What about when you have evidence of it?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
It feels more like relationship Now My faith anyway, it
feels like a relationship, like I can talk and he's
going to talk back, or she's going to talk back.
It's a two way street. So I don't know. Maybe

(49:21):
it's not faith anymore if it truly is something you
can't see, because I can definitely see it with the
eyes of my heart, even when I can't see it
with my physical eyes.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, here's a I'm gonna read this comment from Yah
Yah Israel. She says, wisdom, Sophia was the feminine. She
allowed herself to be used by man, and God removed her.
She was sent to the wilderness and wings were given
to her. That's a it's a beautiful statement. I like.

(49:54):
Also to the fact that her name yah Yah Israel.
There's a lot more. I don't even want to call
you a Christian because I don't know your faith, but
just by your name, yeah, Y'ah Israel. If you're you know,
Israelite or you believe in Christ and you're quoting the
New Testament kind of thing that there are more Christians

(50:14):
and more Mystics in general, and more Israelites right that
are opening up to truth and the reality of the feminine.
And where did the feminine go and you you have to.
You know, you're the craziest if you think that. You know,
you can have a father and a son without a mother.
And if she's not there, where does she go? And

(50:36):
so that's so cool that so many people are waking
up even just to ask the question, right, because that's
where it starts. And she says in Revelation sixteen twelve,
the woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared
for her by God where she might be taken care
of for twelve hundred and sixty days. And it also
says that that she what is it that the earth

(51:02):
fought with her or prepared her? Like the earth opened up,
so it ties it into yeah, the earth as well.
Like going back Tim, Tim and Miranda say, seeing isn't believing,
Believing is seeing?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Right, Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
It's more of a knowing. You can feel them. It's
a calm when there isn't safety. It's to know you
will be okay, okay, regardless of what happens.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, being okay with all of it. Like I said before,
like you know, even being able to find Christ. Some
it'st grief and death and the bad things.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, what I said, it was a quote that you know,
the world says I'll believe it when I see it,
but faith says if I see it, if I believe it,
then i'll see it. Which is the truth. I mean,
it's totally the truth. And I say even like you

(52:07):
don't even have to connect your faith to it, like
even or your belief or whatever. You don't have to
connect anything to it. Because a lot of us were
doing on autopilot. It's like, Okay, I'm gonna believe for this,
and that's good. You can do that, right, You can
believe for something and then see it, see time and harvest.
It takes time until you see it. But like to

(52:28):
really catch yourself the things you're doing on autopilot that
it's making you see things in your life. You know,
the things that are going on in your subconscious belief
system that are causing you to burn bridges, that are
causing you to lose money, that are causing you to
run off, you know, friends in your life, Like these

(52:50):
little things in your life that you believe that there's
a deep belief in you, something that's happened to you
that's causing a manifestation in your life that you don't
know why. And I think that those are the things
that I like to kind of lean into a little
bit more, you know, and ask those whys so that
we can become conscious of those belief systems. Yeah, because

(53:14):
you know, whether if it's causing you know, harm and
trauma and stuff in your life, then it's most likely
what we'll call an ungodly belief. It's not good for you.
It's detrimental to you and people around you.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
And sometimes you have to argue with those thoughts. They
come and you have to argue with them, and you know,
be able to quote the truth, whether it be something
just you know in your heart or a scripture or
you know, you have to be able to combat those thoughts.
And even like, for instance, like ungodly beliefs about yourself,

(53:49):
even if you don't believe the thought that you're using
to combat it with, if you say it enough and
stand on it enough, it builds little a little staircase
to a point where you get to the door and
you're able to believe it and accept it as truth.
I think that's a part of faith too, is even
if you don't believe it, yeah, standing on it because
you know it's the truth. And then it builds this

(54:12):
little bridge to get you there to be able to
open that door.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, yeah, because you you don't you can't see it, right,
So it's yeah, but you'll believe it.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
It's worked for me personally in my life. It has
to work.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
It has to work. Its things don't like we read
the scriptures, then things don't look like they're supposed to.
But you still believe, you know, you read the scriptures.
You you know, you look at Christianity, it's like, but
you don't give up. You still believe, and you hope
for and you you stand on a belief that's unseen
until and then eventually you see it. You know, it
just is what it is. That's how it works. Yeah,

(54:50):
you start seeing it and now it's not faith anymore.
It's just a belief. It's true, it's truth.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Tim and Miranda shared that other part of that revelation
scripture Revelation twelve sixteen, And the Earth helped the woman,
and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the flood,
which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah, that's the deep that that just makes you think of,
like who caused the flood? It said? The dragon sent
the flood.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
And which serpent is this, which dragon is this? Where
did it come from?

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah? Those are just questions you're not supposed to ask
that there are multiple serpents and multiple dragons. Yeah, and
who was who? Who is what? You know? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I love that story in Revelation. There's so much depth
to it.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, it's talking about genesis, like people don't know that. Like,
but it says the serpent sent the flood. I thought
God sent the Let me shut up, Remember I told you.
My friends said, you're not supposed to question the stuff.
I thought. They said the Revelation says a serpent sent
the flood. Yeah, but then they said, they don't say God.

(55:54):
I don't think it says God sent the flood. I
think it says the Lord sent the flood. In the
Old Testament. Yeah, don't think it's a God. I don't
think that Aloheim sent the flood. I think it was
a lord that sent the flood. A lord, one singular
entity who had entities under him, if you will, who
sent the flood.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah. So we're not supposed to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
We can't talk about those things that the angels peer into.
Don't talk about that. You better talk about that you
better talk about that. Yeah, Y'ah Israel says, I believe
in Jesus Christ, but I don't believe in religion. We
are all the believers of Christ and her sons. Amen, Amen,

(56:42):
Mighty Sophia.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Well, guys, if you feel called, we would love to
have you with us at the retreat in June Mount Shasta,
June twelfth through the fifteenth. There's an add on day
for the sixteenth. Our dear friend Karin is certified and
psilocybin facilitation, so she's going to be doing a medicine

(57:06):
ceremony if anyone wants to add that on to their experience.
But the original retreat is June twelfth through the fifteenth,
Mount Shasta. Mount Shasta, We're going to be doing some
sound healing, frequency healing concert concert.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Okay, since we're doing a concert, can I give them
a taste? Yeah, because I think like it's hard for
me to know, because I know I mentioned Mount Shasta
in a verse. I don't know if this is diverse,
but I'm going to try because I think it might be.
I't know until the end. Until the end then was okay,
that was it? I think it is though, let me
see so here we go. We're going to be doing
a concert, and if you come, I'm definitely doing this song.

(57:46):
We're doing this song. Aaron will have to learn a
part for it, sing over me or something. Let me
try to wrap this because I think I mentioned Mount
Shasta in this verse. Me me me uh. Hypnotagnostics researching
the records of Kashik in the temple. I'm a lay
prostate like the mystics. Here is in the prophets uh

(58:09):
Christian mysticism, practice, biblical cryptic wisdom, cosmic universalism that transcends
to elevates patial schism instead of intoxication, receiving the outformation,
offering prayers and supplication. The spirit is got in my
sanctification Hebrew six that talks about face. I'm leaving the basics,
stirring that clouds and counting the spaceships. But it goes numb.
It's a great sensation and wraps it up to the

(58:30):
heavenly places. The energy it enters me vibrate at a
high rate of frequency, eliminate all the doubt in the
unbelief from within a transform Mentally, palms on the ground,
fall to my feet. I begin to sweat and feel
the heat, increase life in the tongue. Papa. When I speak,
a feeling moved from my head and down to my feet,
and I'm as sinding the ladder the weight of your glory. Y.
I never did fathom. When we're a loaning, it's on

(58:51):
it like I'm surround up by lighting. There's nothing that matters.
Interdimensional beings rebuking the demons, the fleeing Shamans and prophets,
believe in a realm that are so far beyond that
of win we are seeing. Okay, I didn't mention Mount
shasted that, but it's in that song. It's a yeah,
I didn't. So it's the second verse. And let me

(59:12):
see if I can remember the second verse. Let's see
eye of illumination receive and cite them my meditation. When
I look up to the heights and I'm praying they come,
Look up to the heights and I'm praying they come,
they come, they come, So here they come, here, they come,
here they come. What's the second How the second verse?

(59:34):
Go look at the heights that I'm praying they come,
they come, they come here they come. Somebody give me
a word. I don't say. I don't know my own stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
It's been so you just have so many.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I wrote that in twenty thirteen. That album came out
in twenty thirteen. Yeah, Okay, when the stargate closed, it's
better believe that another one opens, releasing the fearom golden
holding onto the whope, beholding the light of my ascended master.
UFOs up top Mount Shasta. Cherry is the faire traveler
Dina Sables from Disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, you did it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
It's like a little bridge. It wasn't an actual verse,
it was a bridge. Yeah. When the stargate closes, is
better believe that another one opens, releasing the fear. I'm
golden holding onto the whole beholding the light of my
ascended master. Ufo is up top Mount Shasta. Cherry is
the fairet traveler Doyna's Sabers from Disaster. Yeah. I did it,
good job, I did it. Yeah, I can remember. I

(01:00:30):
can remember remember. So Yeah, if y'all want to hear
that live in concert, i'd be performing live. I'm a
little rusty trying to make sure I remember my own
lyrics and parts. But yeah, yeah, that song is called
Flight of the Navigator. If you want to listen to it,
on YouTube. It got pulled from Spotify, but we're gonna

(01:00:54):
try to get it back up. It's called Flight of
the Navigator. Good job, dear, thank you, deary your turn.
You do it? No m m, well, if you can
do it, do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
H Uh. We don't have a couple more questions.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
What about psychics and mediums? Yea mm hm, doctor you
two Rule ninety one. It says, how do you feel
about psychics and how do you feel about mediums? I
guess I would say, uh, you know, I think that
if we've seen Jesus or the Disciples operating in their

(01:01:35):
spiritual gifts and spiritual callings, we would call it, we
would think they were we call them psychics and mediums. Yeah,
you know, so it's real. So I can't really address
the definition because it's it's loaded of what a psychic
gig is and stuff. I'm more inclusive, so I can
see Jesus operating in gifts of the spirit that are

(01:01:58):
able to read your psych and be able to read
energy and to be able to you know, a medium
is one is able to Jesus is a medium? Right,
he stands in the gate between us and the Father.
While he was on earth. But also even now he's
still that medium, so you're able to speak and get

(01:02:20):
influences and impressions from the spirit world. We're all mediums,
we're all psychics. So that's what what I bring to
the table, you know what I'm saying, like to be
able to look at that stuff differently, except oh, a
psychic is someone that you call in the Psychic Friends
Network or miscleo that's a psychic or somebody is you know,
I say this, the psychics are the prophets that the

(01:02:42):
Church didn't disciple. Yeah, this is what it is. So
spiritual gift, spiritual gifts.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
But you know, we put these labels on things and
then we put them into.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
A little box in your mind, in your psyche.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah. But yeah, having those abilities is spiritual gift.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
In or a spiritual curse. Yeah, depending on how you
use it or when you open and awaken it. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like it just really is
and like a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Medium to me, I see like a little lady next
to a fire, like burning some incense and contacting spirits
that have crossed over, you know, and we are taught
that that's evil, but I don't. I don't even think
that contacting people who have crossed over, I don't think
it's evil. They did it in the Bible all the time,

(01:03:31):
not just the the evil sinners either. Like Jesus went
to the top of the mountain and contacted Moses. He
was already crossed on, wasn't heh Or did he just
live forever?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
No, he is up there with the gods.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
So like, even in that sense, the word medium, it's
I don't see a problem with it. Like I've had
people that I love, you know, come and contact me.
And we talked about contacting Christ too, is already physically well,
he resurrected.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
But yeah, all but all, all of those in Christ
have will resurrect It's only a matter of time. And
and when we talk about ancient hidden wisdom they had
and stuff that was taken out of the Bible. They
had told you how many days it took for you
to they took that. The Catholics got that. That's in
it's in the apocrypha, it's in the Apocalypse. Tells you
how many days it takes for you to get to

(01:04:22):
heaven once you die, and your soul has to go
through these journeys, and then you need to pray for
the souls like that was in the original Bibles. So
there was there were rituals that you would do in
prayers that you would say, and and you can you know,
keep an eye out and open and you'll see you'll
see this going out around around you all day every
day in certain days. There's reasons why I was just

(01:04:45):
even looking at my notes yesterday, where like when when
Jesus rose, It tells you like the days of the
week and all the stuff that this happens, like when
when resurrection power happens, you know, when the rain. These
are seasons, These are cycles that continue to happen. None
of these were one time events or occurrences. That's what
you got to understand. How And it talks about like

(01:05:09):
if Jesus was the lamb who was slain before the
foundations of the earth. But then we read about it
in Matthew, are you reading about an event that took
place before the foundations of the earth? You are? Are
you reading about an event that happened two thousand years ago?
You are? Are you reading about an event that's taking

(01:05:30):
place now? You are ho the end is near? Yeah,
it is. Every new beginning come from some other beginnings end.
These are cycles that continue to happen. So if you
can look at the scriptures that way, I think it
helps you to bring those beautiful modalities, those beautiful prophecies

(01:05:51):
or scary prophecies into the now moment. You know, we're
talking about these belief systems and going idle and stuff
like that with our tongue and just say and stuff
that we don't mean, but we don't know that life
and death is in the power of the tongue. And the
scripture says that you are give an account for every
idle word that you've spoken. You will give an account

(01:06:13):
when you die, probably, yeah, but the scripture officer, if
we die daily, it does. So how about I look
at that now as a prophecy about something that's going
to happen on judgment day. What about the scripture says,
I judge myself. Judgment starts in the house of God,
which is what you. Judgment begins in the house of

(01:06:34):
God that I'm given. You are already given an account
for every idle word that you're speaking, because you can
look at your life and tell you say things you
don't mean. You say things that hurt people's feelings. Now,
they don't want to talk to you again. You're given
you a given account for that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, you reap what you show, whether you intentionally show
it or not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
It's powerful. And so you know, I think we should start,
you know, making this thing make sense. All of us
is pushing the gold posts back further and further and further.
And that's what they did during all of these ages
in the scriptures. That's what they did during the time

(01:07:12):
of Noah building the arc. Oh, I ain't. They've never
seen that before. It's not. He's like, man, y'all got
to get ready. Yeah, it's coming and it's always coming, right,
But what's what happens is what's coming is now here. Yeah,
like you are the manifestation of those things you've been
reading about. Christ is going Christ is coming back. Man,

(01:07:33):
you missed the bus. He already came back. He died
and rose again. He went away and came back three
days later and said I'm coming back again. Then you
read in the Book of Acts where the Holy Spirit
came and Steven died and then he saw Christ come
back in the clouds. Like was he hiding from people
and coming back when they died to come get them? Yeah?

(01:07:54):
He's here like Christ, the Holy Spirit has poured himself
out upon all flesh, and Christ is back. He's here.
So but the church got is still pushing the gold
post back further and further, waiting for him to come back. Yeah,
how can he come back and already be here? That's
the beautiful dichotomy that we're in. The in the reality

(01:08:14):
that changes when when your face and your belief changes,
it changes your reality. You're not waiting for him, You're
engaging him. You're one with Christ and then he's in you,
and you can commune with Christ in you. You can
commune with Christ in nature. You can commune with Christ
in the clouds like Christ did. He engaged those before

(01:08:36):
him in the clouds in the mountain. And we're gonna
do the same thing. We are doing the same thing.
We're gonna do it at Mount Shasta. Yeah, UFO is
up top Mount Shasta. Cherry, it's a fire. What does
shasta mean? Have you looked that up yet?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I haven't go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
To etymology online. Let's see if you can find that.
We need to know what that means. Doctor you too, says,
what do you? What do y'all think? The third eye is?
I think the third eye is a physical gland in
the body. Was most people believe the pineal gland, right,

(01:09:13):
pineal gland, which allows us to interpret the things we're
talking about of the psyche. It allows us to activate
and to see into the spirit. When you activate that,
your spiritual eyes, the eyes of your understanding, that becomes
illuminated and enlightened. That the Bible says, we are fearfully

(01:09:34):
and wonderfully made. And so every part of our body
has a spiritual purpose and it's connected to the spiritual nature,
including your third eye or your pineal gland. That it
even has your it has a retina, and but not

(01:09:54):
just the pineal like everybody knows that. Let's get into
the stuff. People don't know your skin, your skin is
a spirit your antenna being able to pick up on
frequencies and all that's biblical, like all that you read
about this in the Bible. In Job chapter four, there
was an instance where Job's friend was asleep and was

(01:10:15):
awakened in the wee hours of the of the night
when deep sleep fallst upon men. It says, where a
spirit passed before my eyes. So he's set it up.
He's laying in its bed and he wakes up and
he sees a spirit in the corner of the room
or in the hallway or something. He said, what's that?

(01:10:36):
And it says, you can't. He says, but the appearance
was of that of myst and you couldn't tell the
shape or form thereof. So most of the time when
you see spirits and things like that, they looked like
a mist, they looked like smoke, They looked like a vapor.
Scriptures tell you that, and and Job chapter four tells
you that. And it says it spoke to him, It

(01:10:56):
brought a message to him. At this vapor in the
owner of his room that he's looking at started to
speak with him and to check him. And it scared
him and shook him to his core that his bones
begin to shake, And it says, all the hair on
his body stood on end. It's because your body is
an antenna and can pick up on spiritual frequencies. Any

(01:11:20):
paranormal show you've watched wild tell you that, Oh my god,
I just got chills. That's what chills are. When we
start talking about something in deja vu and synchronicity, or
you feel the Holy Spirit on your physical mortal body,
like it can pick up and sense these things. So
you know, I think all of that is related to
how are fearfully and wonderfully made physical bodies interact with

(01:11:44):
the spiritual nature in spiritual reality that is more real
than the physical reality. Yep, what does Mount Shasta mean? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
There is no etymology on Mount Shasta.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
It's kind of weird definition of the name.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
A mountain in California names for a local native tribe
whose name bright offers no etymology. And then I looked
it up on Google too and found nothing. So we'll
have to dig a little deeper on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Tim and Miranda says, what scripture was that? It's job
chapter four? Just Job Chapter four tells that story. Do
we do one on one calls? We do if you
go to my website where we do book one on
one sessions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
See Tim and Miranda asked earlier, I wanted to address it.
They said, have you heard of anyone who's awakened without
plant medicine that can experience nosis?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
For sure?

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I had. I had my deepest, most beautiful awakening experience.
There was plant medicine involved. It was chocolate, yeah, So
I mean, could I have achieved it without that? Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
We just have so many tools and things. You know,
the body's fearfully and wonderfully made in the way that
we interact with all molecules. Yeah, chocolate being one. Chocolate is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
And we don't mean like the kind you buy that
has the mushrooms in it or weed in it or whatever.
Like no, pure cocoal from the plant.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
From keithscoccao dot Com with the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Fat, the fat infused with the cocao.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Ceremonial grade ceremonial, serving a big old cup of bitter
bitter herbs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
But yeah, I mean, these things are tools, but you
don't need them, Like you have everything you need right
here to get there and get full awakening nosis. I
think it's more about the position of your heart than
anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah, no, for sure, So I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I just want to address that, like, no, you don't.
You don't need plant medicine, you don't need anything outside
of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
We have tons of tools, and that's one reason we
don't like we honor all the tools, you know what
I'm saying, But we don't like push especially for the
strong ones and stuff, just because first of all, they're
so popular and so many other people are vouching and
pushing them, you know, so they can do that. We
like to look so as those are being pushed, the

(01:14:21):
other ones are being like suppressed if you will push
to the back, you know. And so there's so many
more plants and modalities that we can do that are
all around us all day every day. Weeds in your
yard that are growing because God knows you need them,
Weeds that treat depression and anxiety. But we spray round

(01:14:45):
up on them and we burn them up because they're
an eye sore instead of harvesting and cutting them and
then doing a just a quick Google search on what
you know what the people who were here before me,
how did they use dan?

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Yeah, blow your mind. That's the first that should be
a first rabbit hole you go down.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
You were created out of the dust of this earth,
and so the earth knows what you need. And if
you just go into the place where you live and
look around and figure out what these plants are and
what they do. I mean, you can make something as
simple as just drying it and making a tea out
of it, yeah, or make a bundle and light it
like sage to clear the bacteria and negative energies. And

(01:15:30):
it'll kill bacteria in the air, some of them, you know,
so it'll cleanse the air and the environment. Like it's
just mind blowing. All of the things they do support
that they give.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Yeah, and all of these things do help to decastify
the pine of the land. Timberland again says you just
said that part about the vapor. I asked because something
happened to me six years ago. It started with an
entity that looked like white smoke makes month with the
mirage or heat waves. That's what they look like. We've

(01:16:04):
seen one the other day, yeah, just a few days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
It was wild.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Yeah, we seen one another day, like smoke. Yeah, but
that's what they They're like shadows sometimes, I mean different
hues of light. They just bend light and smoke is
used for that. That's why you see. That's why you
see people burning incense and things like that. You get
there's different things that give them energy so that they

(01:16:28):
can give you a message or give you a sign
or communicate with you. Like, not all of them are
powerful enough to show up as an apparition because nobody
believes in them or nobody's honoring them. But once you
believe in them and you and you honor it and
you begin to see it everywhere. You know. That's how
like you know, whatever you whatever, you're, whatever you believe,

(01:16:50):
shows itself to you. It becomes a part of your reality.
Whether you think that everybody is you know, demed for hell.
You start looking at your best friend's looking at your
dog like he's going to hell one day for real.
People like that. Man, I love you, But the Bible
says all dogs go to hell. So you're going to
like these weird belief systems that now your worldview is

(01:17:12):
shaped that way. So I've had.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
People argue with me that animals don't have souls and
they will not be in heaven.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Yeah. The early Church believe totally different, you know. Yeah,
they believe that we probably were an animal at some point.
Jews believe different than you are an animal right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Now, Like people in the Bible got turned into animals.
Yeah that crazy and then came back from it, so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
More and more yeah ne Yeah, I think it was
never Cannez who turned into a bird, Like I just
I wonder how it happened. Was it a dream, you know,
was it did it physically happen? Was it a lifetime
that happened. I know, you know what, just some crazy

(01:18:00):
dream that seemed like a lifetime, which is kind of
what a lifetime is life second life is but a
dream it is. And then he comes back to his
senses to make a decision is Hey, listen, let me
not boast over boast myself above God. I'm not as
powerful as I think I am. You know, so fun stuff, right,

(01:18:23):
biblical mysteries. Didn't we said that that's what this is about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Yeah, it kind of was, mm hmm. Well, we love
you guys, Thank you so much for joining us today
on this beautiful live stream. Yeah, and asking some great questions.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Yeah, We've seen a lot of myss that that I've
had that same experience, And that's probably why when I
went back to when I read that experience, I was
able to interpret it different differently and see it because
it's quick. It's easy just to read over that and
not really put two and two together. But when you
read it slow and you've had a similar experience, like,

(01:19:02):
oh God, why why haven't ever heard any sermon on this?
I've never heard any teaching on job for and this
spirit passed before mine eyes in the middle in the
midst of the night when deep sleep falleth upon men?
What time is that? Is that three point thirty and am?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Is that the watch of the Lord where the spirits
visit you? Is there a certain time? Man? Let me
shut up. Is there a certain time where spirits visit you?
And the watches? So you need to be watchful, wakeful?
For sure. They believed it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
It's in there for a reason. They wouldn't put the
time if it wasn't important.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Yeah, they do, yep. So say there was just one
day this happened. No, they give you the time and
the day, and you start fighting. You start finding patterns
of angelic visitations always happening at a certain time and
a certain day. So when you read times and days
and places and names in the Bible, know that they
have significance. Yeah, every all of it does. It's all

(01:20:03):
in there for reading a reason. So that makes the
reading more fun. It turns your Bible reading into a
Bible study and a word study and the etymology study.
So all the profits with us. What's good? Bro, nice,
what's good? I was just talking to him about coming
to He said he wants to be on the podcast.

(01:20:24):
I was like, you got to come be on it
be like in studio. Yeah, you got to come here
and do it. And he's just talking about money like
I don't know, you know, it's a it's a long trip,
twelve hour drive or flight. It was like, listen, when
it's supposed to happen, it will happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Finances show up when the time is right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Track that flight on Google. Man, that's that's the best
flight hack I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, because we've been booking, like trying to get our
flights together for Shasta, and every day it's either up
or down. Five hundred bucks. Yeah, as long as if
you track it and find the cheapest one and look
at chop around. Man, we've seen flights for one hundred bucks.
Like that was. We bought round ticket flights to Colorado
Denver for a hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Yeah, not not even any layovers or anything, just straight
straight shot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
You gotta work harder, I mean, work smarter, not harder.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
One hundred bucks versus you know, eight hundred bucks, Like,
one hundred bucks is doable. Man, if you can find
out listen, I'll fly you to Alabama. If you can
find a flight for a hundred bucks, we'll pay for it.
You can't really pay for it right now. But if
you find a flight for one hundred bucks, you send
it to me, which you might if you shop around
and look around or like look at different airports. Even

(01:21:40):
you have to drive a little bit further to get
a cheaper flight. Yeah, we're doing it, like, that's what
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Yeah, I can't wait for that song to come out
that you guys are working on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Yeah, which one's better, the new one or the Heaven
with them, because we just put out the new one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Man. But I'm I'm a fan of humming, Like you
know that the humming part in the song that we
did or that I did that we had, that's one
of my favorite little melodies. And so like I love
a really beautiful humming melody and that just that that's
the part that really sticks in my head. Yeah, but
it's such a beautiful song. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Yeah, So for those of you who haven't listened to
we dropped a new song probably you know, a month
ago now, just a few weeks ago, myself Allad the
prophet in Illuminati Congo called Heaven Within. And it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
It's really good. Yeah, And so.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
You go to Spotify and listen to that, and we're
working on new music as we speak, and it's dope.
It's good. I haven't wrote a verse in a while
and or reached out to me to send me a track,
and I I did it like instantly, because I just
I've been itching to do music. I just certain things
coming up and really busy. But I was like, I'm

(01:22:58):
finna do it right now and surprise them. Say hey, man,
let me know if you're feeling this, and I want
to do like within just a few hours to send
back a verse like already recorded and stuff. So yeah,
it's a dope song though. That's a that's a new
one that's gonna be coming out for sure. And uh
heck yeah. So Tim Miranda says, Shasta means precious water

(01:23:20):
or teacher. If that helps.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Okay, cool, nice, I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Heck yeah. Well, guys, thanks for hanging out with us.
If y'all want to find out more about the upcoming
retreat or more about our online community and Seer School,
you can go to the website at www dot cr
dot school. That's s e e r dot s c
h o o l cr dot school. That's where you

(01:23:47):
can be a part of this, and we do this
thing here twice a week with our online community.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Yeah. So if you want to come on zoom and
ask more questions or you know, tell some stories, testimonies, whatever,
or just listen while you're doing the dishes, like working,
we'll be here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Yeah. Some people are listening and just hanging out while
they're working.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
So we do it on Thursday nights seven pm Central
and Sunday Rising sessions at nine am Central.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
No, one is more of a deep dive open conversation.
On Thursdays, we've been doing a we started a book
book club on there, and then the Sunday sessions are
more devotional oriented and breathwork and but there's still deep
dives too. We get really deep.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
But with that, guys, check check out the website, check
out all the cool stuff. With that, will say peace
and sloan. We'll do it again soon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Thank you for being here.

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