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November 12, 2025 79 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mmmmmm.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring veterinarian doctor Debbie White, groomer Joey Valani, news director
Laurie Brooks, and now from the Red Barnes Studios, here
are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Judy has booked a really incredible show today. It includes
a fourteen year old inventor who invented something for dogs.
I don't know what it is, but I hear it's
an amazing invention. So I know, Alan, you'll be around
for that. Always looking for invention always. Also on the
show a lady who's an amputee and because she's an amputee,
she went to work at one of these prosthetic places
and she designed prosthetic limbs for pets.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, oh that's cool.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And she has a brand new show. Well it's not
her show, but she's a part of the show on
PBS called My Bionic Pets that I need a bionic
mouth is what I need. Also, we're going to have
on a beast Master. I have no idea what this is.
Is this family material, judas it is.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I wouldn't put anything on the show there Okay, I
just want.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
To make sure that it's yes friendly for you. Tammy.
What are you working on?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:02):
This could you could have fun with us at a
cocktail party if this survey is right. You tell me
the kind of pet you have, and I'll be able
to tell you what kind of job you have.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, okay, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Says there's a connection that could be.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Do you have a bird? I know Joey has a
bird that Joey. That probably tells a little bit about
what kind of guy he is. There's this guy, Ash Goswami.
He was included in a list of suspects who could
have robbed his aunt Nelims and then murdered her inside
her house in India. He was he was on this
list of Apparently police asked the wife's parent to help,

(01:37):
and the police mentioned the names of all the suspects
one by one, and then the parrot had a violent
reaction when they named Oshtoosh's name and began screaming usamara, usamara, which,
of course, in that language which I have no idea
what it is, means he's a killer. He's the killer,
and so he was. He finally confessed and was arrested
none of this stuff ever happens in America. I noticed, Now,

(01:58):
can we file this away somewhere?

Speaker 6 (02:00):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
She's putting a round file fingered by a bird. It's
a family show.

Speaker 7 (02:06):
The Manson Family.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, you know what we need. We need a listener
to save us this DC.

Speaker 8 (02:11):
How you doing today?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Good? How you doing? What's up?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (02:14):
Thanks for taking my call. I'll tell you what I got.
I got two sha wallas and and and the female
just had purpose three days ago. And the male he's
the one taking it so hard. As a matter of fact,
he's got a lot. Was thinking about maybe I should
have take him to get in something for depression. And

(02:35):
I'm afraid that maybe he's so angry about that. Uh
my female dog won't pay him no attention, and I'm
I'm afraid he might just, you know, try to hurt
the prepace. I really don't know what he's gonna do
because he's just acting out of his head right now.
And let me get to the to the to the female. Uh,

(02:57):
she first just she will need to put for no reason,
not even drink water, not even to eat unless you know,
you eat some of that cot out or something something
something was a favorite but I finally did it take
the food to her this morning, and she ate it,
So that's kind of a problem.

Speaker 9 (03:15):
Okay, Well, it sounds like you've got a very attentive
mom and she is very concerned about the well being
of the babies to her own detriments. And we do
see this in female dogs, some that have such a
strong mothering instinct that they don't want to eat, they
don't want to leave the baby. So you actually, in
many cases sometimes we have to forcibly take mom away,

(03:37):
give her a little private time, let her do her
potty business, give her a quiet room where she can eat,
and that can help for some of the females. Now,
if her being away from the babies is more distressing
than I like, what you did.

Speaker 10 (03:49):
You brought the food to her so that.

Speaker 9 (03:51):
She can accomplish both things. And and dad's problems going
on right now. Can be several different motivations. So one
is that he, yeah, he may I don't say resent
dogs don't resent the lack of attention that he's getting.
But he may be very focused and interested in what's
going on. So you kind of have to gauge the
level of interaction that you permit the male, depending on

(04:13):
how everything's going along. Some female dogs do not want
any other creature around their babies, and she might hurt
him or the male might hurt the babies. Now, if
these guys, have they been through a litter before or
is this their first time together? Okay, so you kind
of have to read the situation a little bit to
see what dad is doing. But I would basically have

(04:35):
him on a leash and have you know, someone monitoring
him while you're watching her and see what the interaction is.

Speaker 10 (04:41):
If she's upset.

Speaker 9 (04:43):
Her hackles are going up, or she is, you know,
guarding those babies. I would not even risk that. And
some males it's best for them to just stay away.
If he wants to be an involved parent, that's.

Speaker 8 (04:53):
Great, but that's saying for him because she ready to
fight him if you try to come around them.

Speaker 9 (04:59):
Yeah, then let's keep these babies away. And you know,
there's no reason we want to increase her level of
stress in any way. But you know, and with some moms,
they can be even hostile to the humans in the
household when they are protecting their young, So that too
is a thing to be cautious with.

Speaker 10 (05:19):
I still like to handle the babies, and I still like.

Speaker 9 (05:21):
To, you know, get them exposed to human contact very young,
but you got to do that cautiously so you don't
injure yourself or distress the mom.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
I got one more question, where can I touch the puppies?

Speaker 9 (05:34):
When can you touch the puppies? Actually, you can touch
them at any point, so it's not like some of
those wildlife where if you touch them, the mom's going
to reject them because you got your son on them.

Speaker 10 (05:44):
So that won't happen.

Speaker 9 (05:45):
But just just use caution and watch her body language
so that you're not going to put yourself in a
point where you're going to get injured. The best way
to kind of manage that is what I like to do,
is to just kind of put a little light slip
leash on the mom and then that way you have
control of her and you can just kind of gently
while you're talking to her, just kind of gently kind
of take her to the side a little bit, and
then you can handle the babies. And then what you

(06:06):
do is after you handle them, you give them right
back to her and you return them to her area,
and then she'll see that you are not a physical
threat to the babies, and that makes her more at
ease for future handling, so you're kind of training her
at the same time.

Speaker 8 (06:21):
Oh right, I really appreciated your heir, doctor Debbye. Okay,
so one more question. So the mail though he don't
need it, he don't need nothing depressing up.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Not likely.

Speaker 9 (06:32):
No. And you know some some male dogs, you know,
whether it's their hormones and the females are in heat
or you know, they've got something like this going on,
they just may not the most may not be the
most interested in food.

Speaker 10 (06:44):
So if it takes getting him out of the.

Speaker 9 (06:45):
Situation a little bit, take him over to your family
member's how something like that, he might do a little
bit better just to be away from some of the commotion.

Speaker 8 (06:52):
All right, I appreciate it so much, and now you
have a good day invent your staff.

Speaker 11 (06:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Good luck with those babies there, take care of okay,
Lye four And we have Bob on the phone. Hey, Bob,
how are you doing good? Good? What's going on in
your world?

Speaker 11 (07:09):
I've got a couple of chow chows. I'm male and
a female and the uh one. When I feed the
female dog and then it's time to let her out,
she'll like eat half of her food, doll let her outside.
She'll let me know she wants to come back in,
and I'll open the door. She'll just sit there and

(07:32):
look up at me, and I'll say, do you want
to come in or not? She'll turn her back on
me and put her back and forth. And my wife
is the same thing. I'll go up there and I says,
what's wrong with the dogs? She's given me the cold shoulder.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Well, Bob, have you I'm glad you called. I'm so
glad you called because childs are unique dogs. I'm sure
doctor Debbie's had an experience with chiles too. But they're
not like you. Yeah, they're not like your German Shepherd
or your Golden Retriever. They are very they're more like cats,
and they're often misunderstood by people. The average training methods

(08:11):
and motivational techniques don't work on childs. You know, you
can't force them to do anything. And with a chow,
it's all about respect. They're regal, they're beautiful, and you
know you have to establish control from the beginning with
a child, and he has to respect you and you
have to earn his respect. And so your dog's very funny.

(08:32):
A child will do what a child wants to do
and saves the affection for the people that he really
cares about. But it's obvious that your chowd you probably
haven't earned your dog's respect. And I'll tell you why.
The dog is controlling you. Okay, so when your dog
is sitting by the door, you're going over to open
the door, and so the chow is getting a reaction

(08:53):
out of you. The chow is controlling you. You're not
in charge. You're not forcing the child to kind of
respect you by being in control. You're calm.

Speaker 10 (09:01):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
So the next time the child's sitting there by the door,
just ignore that dog. Just ignore them. They don't even
pay any attention to her. And when you want her
to come in, you go to the door, open the door.
Don't talk to the dog because they don't understand you,
and childs are not even gonna pay attention to you.
They'll walk away, you know, just open the door and
go come. If the dog doesn't, then just close the

(09:23):
door and walk away. And pretty soon the dog's going
to realize and understand that you know, when you say come,
it means now. And if she doesn't it might be
hours before you invite her in again. And it's kind
of how you have to manipulate a child. You have
to be a very powerful personality, but not a forceful personality.
You have to be confident, calm, and you have to

(09:43):
just act the way you want the dog to Whatever
you want the dog to get from your behavior, you
act that way. So you lead with a chiw you lead,
and you know, there's just they're just unique. They're very unique.
They're very unique dogs.

Speaker 11 (09:56):
Well you hit the nail right on the head. Just
that describes her to a t uh. The male dog, Uh,
he's We got him as a teenager, as if you will,
and uh we kind of had to establish the you know,
who's the alpha on that one, and he picked it
up right away.

Speaker 12 (10:14):
He was.

Speaker 11 (10:16):
I didn't ever have to. Uh, you know, they're all
different views, you know, all in my life.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
In general, you're a calm guy. But in general, Chowd's
are very strong willed dogs. They need an equally strong
willed owner. They have minds of their own and if you,
if you let them, they will become the master of you.
So before anybody listening ever decides to go out and
get a chow. Give it some serious thought, because you
really have to be a powerful, calm personality.

Speaker 11 (10:43):
Oh, that's that's her, her exactly. She's just trying to
manipulate things. So well, at least I've got a little
insight of what I've perceived to be the cold shoulder.
I just like you said, I just shut the doors,
all right, when you've decided you want to come in.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
So so now turn that around. Turn that. Turn that around,
my friend. It's when you decide you want her to
come in. Okay, it's not what she decides. That's the
only way you're gonna earn a child's respect. It's kind
of like, hey, come, and if the dog doesn't listen
by the second come, just shut the door and walk
away when the dogs sitting by the door pay absolutely

(11:20):
no attention.

Speaker 11 (11:22):
Well, thank you very much. Did hit the nail right
on the head on the personality there, that's that's that's great.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Thanks for your call, Bob. I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
I lived with the child. They're interesting dogs.

Speaker 10 (11:32):
You know, Alan, you're a carpenter for dogs behavior a carpenter?

Speaker 6 (11:35):
What is that?

Speaker 7 (11:36):
That's funny? What does that mean?

Speaker 10 (11:38):
He said?

Speaker 9 (11:38):
You hit the nail on the head, and you are
the cringer to his dog's behavior.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Oh chowd's are you know what? They are? The anti dog.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
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Speaker 4 (11:59):
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Speaker 10 (12:00):
Of course, my pets are part of our family.

Speaker 13 (12:03):
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Speaker 14 (12:04):
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Speaker 10 (12:09):
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Speaker 3 (12:13):
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Speaker 10 (12:23):
Go online to fighto Friendly dot com. I will for sure.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
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Speaker 2 (12:30):
At the Red Barn Studios. You're listening to Animal Radio.
Here's Alan Judy in.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Too chur one before. How are you doing, Gene?

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I'm okay? How are you good?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Where are you calling from today?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
I'm Adamstown, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh I gotta love it listening on WEEU.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I bet that's correct.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Those guys are awesome what's going on.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, my Kiama has been having probably for the last
six months, she's been doing a lot of reverse coughing.
We've been to the vet, she's been on spheroid it
improves it, and then when she goes off the steroids
it starts again. She has episodes. They're not related to exertion.
She could be laying sleeping and then all of a

(13:12):
sudden she starts having this episode and with it she
has a lot of sneezing as well. We were going
we're actually having an appointment to see a specialist in
about a week and a half in Malverne, Pennsylvania, because
we just don't know what to do about it. And
she gets so distressed when it happens. She almost draws

(13:35):
her neck like she's trying to stretch to get air,
and it's really scary to watch.

Speaker 9 (13:42):
Oh, yes, so you're going to see the specialist. You've
had some stories and that has not necessarily fully helped.
How often is she doing this?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
She probably does it maybe four or five times a day.

Speaker 9 (13:55):
Okay, And when you say reverse coughing, we're referencing reverse sneezee,
kind of the sound that's like a.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yes exactly that's great, it sounds like. But in addition,
when she gets up in the morning, she's sneezing a lot,
and it's not just the little sneeze, they're almost like
violent sneezes. So I don't know if this is allergies
or if it's I don't know.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
All righty, well, I can tell you, And I really,
I really appreciate this question because this is great that
you are empowering yourself before you go into that that office,
and I think that is a wonderful thing for any
pet owner. So you want to make good use of
that time when you're in there with that doctor.

Speaker 10 (14:35):
So that's why I'm here, so we can.

Speaker 9 (14:37):
Help kind of kind of put those questions in your
head before you walk in and the things you're gonna
want to hit them with.

Speaker 10 (14:42):
It just makes things go so much better.

Speaker 9 (14:45):
You know your pet's history, you'll be able to kind
of recite that out, what's worked, what's not worked, and
you'll get much better bang for your buck, and then
that can help you better. So for me, with reverse sneezing,
and this is a sound that's it is truly the
opposite of a sneeze. So instead of on the exhale
with a sneeze. This is on the inhale, so there's
like a reverberation kind of movement. Dogs will kind of

(15:06):
stick their neck out along like they're trying to stretch
and crane their neck, and they make that horrendous sound,
and it's a spasming type sound. So that sound in
that effort is basically the body's attempt to clear irritants
from the nasopharnx, so from the back of the throat
and the nose area. The causes of this can be
a lot of different things, and it can be you

(15:27):
mentioned allergies, certainly, it can be something like that. In
some cases, it can be something anatomically wrong, so maybe
a polyp or a mass somewhere in the back of
the throat. I've had foreign bodies where you know, dogs
will get little pieces of grass that kind of embed
into the back of the throat. Actually, one common cause

(15:48):
of this and something I always like to treat for
for a pet that has persistent river sneezing as nasal mites.
These are little mites that actually live in the nasal
passages of dogs and they're pretty much all over the country,
so it's not some you oh, we don't have those bios.
My dog doesn't go anywhere. They're actually found all over
the country and all over the world. So for me,
I like to treat pats with ivermectin, or if they're

(16:10):
a collie breed, will use a different product.

Speaker 10 (16:12):
But we treat them from nasal mites.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
Because sometimes you know, it's it's hard to find them.
You got to go in there with a scope and
look around. And then there are definitely some other what
we call lymphoplasmaidic rhinitis, which is basically a type of
an inflammatory problem, and certain dogs. So all that being said,
I don't know what all your vet has done to
kind of screen or to check things out, but I

(16:35):
usually like to make sure we've got chest X rays,
I like to make sure basic blood work, we know
our heartworm status, and then typically I like to do
an ivermectin treatment before we see a specialist. But once
you walk in that door and you're going in to
see the specialist, you know, i'd certainly be prepared and
recognizing that a lot of these problems are kind of
in the nose area, so it's hard to look at

(16:56):
a pet and know what the cause is.

Speaker 10 (16:59):
So we usually have to put a scope.

Speaker 9 (17:01):
Or a camera up the nose or up the back
of the throat to kind of look around and investigate
for some of those possible causes. Now that yeah, so
sometimes they may do just a light setative, but usually
if they're going to put that the scope in, they're
going to have to have full anesthesia and that just
allows them to kind of move around and to prevent

(17:22):
like the gagging and so forth that would typically happen
with that, right, So, but but yeah, that's basically the
most important thing is to get the visualization of those
areas and if they don't see anything, you know, then
then we take a section, we might do a biopsy.
In some cases they'll do higher studies, so like a
CT scam, you know, if it's something that's just not

(17:42):
quite accessible, or we're trying to compare the the appearances
of one side to the other at the same time.
So it's just you know, recognizing there could be a
lot of different potential causes. And I think it depends
a lot for every pet how often these type of
things happen and how it affects them, because a lot
of times dogs will just have her reverse knees when

(18:04):
they pull on their leash and it's done over with
no big deal. But certainly, if if the episodes are
more taxing, they occur more frequently, you know, it does,
it does warrant looking.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Into Okay, well, thank you for all that information. That
does give me at least some ammunition, you know, at
least I know what I'm I'm dealing with. And yeah,
that's been wonderful. The only other question I had, which
is it sounds crazy, but she eats like an absolute pig.
And I was thinking to myself too, maybe she aspirated something,

(18:36):
but you did kind of discuss that, so it is
possis as well.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
Yes, absolutely, we can get a piece of food or
a piece of some kind of plant matter and I
kind of get that up into the back of the
nasal passage.

Speaker 10 (18:49):
So yeah, it is certainly possible.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Okay, Well, thank you for that, all this information. I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (18:56):
Good luck, Jame.

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Eight hundred six one seven five to one four five
eight hundred six one seven five one four five eight
hundred six one seven five to one four five. That's
eight hundred six one seven fifty one forty five This
is an animal radio news update.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
I'm Tammy Trichillo, and most of us do consider our
pets as priceless. But what if you had to put
a price on your dog.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
If you had to, what would it be?

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Maybe two million dollars? Well, that's how much a Tibetan
mastiff puppy just sold for in China. This one year old,
two hundred pounder was purchased by our property developer, what's
called a luxury pet fair. Tibetan mastiffs to become a
prize status symbol among wealthy Chinese and that has really
sent the prize to rocketing when in industry insider, though,

(21:01):
says that breeders may be conspiring to push those prices up.
And if you've never seen a Tibetan mastiff, they are
enormous and they have thick, round manes that make them resemble.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
A huge lion. Behavior Wise, they.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Are fiercely loyal to their people and they can be
very very protective. Now, if you have a cat at home,
you know what happens if you set an empty box
on the floor, Yeah, the cat immediately gets in it,
no matter how big it.

Speaker 10 (21:22):
Is or isn't right.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
There actually are some pretty smart reasons. Seems like smaller
places are safer, especially when you're sleeping in. Cats also
like to be warm, and smaller spots are a bit cozier.
And since domestic cats are descendants of wildcats, they still
instinctively select places they're easier to defend, and the smaller
the spot, the easier it is to fend off the intruders.
And there's a kitten right now generating a whole lot

(21:46):
of excitement in Texas. A remote camera captured and image
of an ocelot kitten in a South Texas wildlife refuge.
Federal Wildlife biologist Hillary Swartz says she and her colleagues
were jumping up and down and literally screaming because there
are fewer than fifty oslots left in the wild in
the US. And she tells the San Antonio Express News,
it's believe the kitten is female and that will add

(22:08):
to the breeding stock and hopefully bring these gorgeous little
kittens back into a better population size. I'm Tammy Triheo.
Get more breaking news at animal radio dot com.

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Speaker 1 (22:33):
Tammy, truehel who just reported about the two million dollar dog?
That's amazing. There we all freaked out, I think Joey
most of all. Are you feeling better? We had to
actually get smelling salt for Joey. Yes, I passed. I
passed out. Have you ever read?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
I just feel sorry if Joey ever has to groom
a Tibetan mastif with this.

Speaker 7 (22:50):
Huge Joe, did you ever see them? From what I hear?
These breeds they get only the highest class parasites. You
know that they have to be elite parasites for these
dogs to get them.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, this is true. Gorgeous, gorgeous dogs, they really are.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
And no, I've never believe or not, I've never groomed
the breed.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
I'd love to know.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Well this think you about a week? This particular one
weigh two hundred pounds that sold for two million dollars
sometimes one year old. At one year old, does that
mean they're going to get bigger than that? Tammy?

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, this dog's probably got another third
to grow.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
So what is that price per pound?

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh, that's just unbelievable. Well an industry insider has said
that the high price is may be a result of
insider agreements among breeders to boost their dog's worth, and
that some of the sky high price deals are just
breeders hyping each other up and that no money actually
exchanges hands. Oh yeah, I don't know if that's true
or not. This is just an industry insider that says this,

(23:45):
who's reported in on a website that I have no
clue if it's accurate or not. I'm just fueling the fire.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Can you imagine cleaning up the poop of a two
hundred believable? You'd needed a shovel. Heads thought of that?

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, I think we all feel that our animals are
worth much more than two million dollars.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Oh see, I wouldn't even sell Ladybug for two million dollars.
She's priced.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Does she have a price?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
She knows she's priceless. There is no price that I
would sell.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Of course not. They're a family for us. Yes, let's
talk on a million. Would you? What about Miles Buster?

Speaker 10 (24:20):
Two million?

Speaker 12 (24:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (24:21):
Miles and Buster are about twelve years old each, so.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
I figure, you know, if I look at it.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
You know that.

Speaker 10 (24:28):
Yeah, I take the two million?

Speaker 15 (24:29):
Now, Yo, I don't know if I if I could,
but I'll tell you it would be.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
How about my wife?

Speaker 1 (24:35):
What can I sell for?

Speaker 17 (24:36):
You know?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh you were in so much trouble.

Speaker 12 (24:39):
Oh my, I.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Should be able to get at least a million.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Then if I get two million for the.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Dog, yeah, you'll be lucky if you get a million
after the divorce, or get to keep even half of
that after the divorce? Alan, would you take two million
dollars for uh?

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Can you can put the value on the human What
is it? The human body's worth like sixty eight bucks?
All of your chemicals and fluids.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I don't believe it's got to be more than that.
It's all my kidney for three thousand.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Yeah, well yeah you could anybody else. Everybody else gets fifty,
Your yours is only worth three.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
So would you get rid of Rudy for two million?
If someone came up to you and said, here's a
cool two million, we want Rudy.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
Yeah he's yeah, he's gone, see Rudy. I'll come visits.

Speaker 10 (25:16):
Oh you would not. Don't say that. There's no way
two million bucks?

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
No?

Speaker 10 (25:21):
I would not, I would not.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
You would not okay, Well how about this, Doctor Debbie.
Would you give away mister Debbie for two million bucks?

Speaker 8 (25:29):
No?

Speaker 10 (25:29):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
You give him away for a million No, I.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
Would not, you know, And it doesn't matter.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
There's not a dollar sign that you could tell me
that I would let you pay for my.

Speaker 10 (25:40):
Husband, for my dogs either way. It's just it's no way.
It's the table.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I love this, hey, I'd say for a husband for
the right price.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know, well, there's always the right price, except for
your animals. I would never sell my animals for any price. Judy,
I don't think you would either. I think doctor Doctor
Debbie is expressed that she wouldn't either. Joey Volani said
that he indeed sell his miles for two million dollars.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
But but you know, it have to be a good person, though,
it have to be a very very good owner.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's sweet of you out always thinking about Rudy.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, I love that dog.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
If you've listened to Animal Radio for any amount of time,
you know two things. You know. One that you can
download the Animal Radio app for iPhone and Android. It's free,
listen to the show anytime you want and ask your
questions of the dream team right from the app. The
other thing you know is I cannot pronounce names worth poof, right,
I have screwed up Josh Dumel's name.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
There you go two years in a row.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
The first year I called him Josh do Hammel. This
year I called him what Josh Damal Damal and he
corrected me. Usually no one corrects me. So I'm gonna
continue on my streak right now with our selli, Luccio Forster.
I'm sure I've screwed that up, haven't.

Speaker 17 (26:51):
I it's Lucio. But you were close, you were close.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Well, I think Luccio sounds I think we should change it.
Have you thought about that?

Speaker 17 (27:00):
I have thought about that. But I'm not Italian. I'm
actually Mexican, so we don't have any hard seas in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, so we'll go with the Lucio then.

Speaker 17 (27:08):
All right, good, I won you over.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, we got you on the phone to talk
about this nasty parasitic worm. First of all, what do
you do? Who are you? What do you do? Tell
tell the listeners.

Speaker 17 (27:19):
I am a parasitologist at Cornell University, and I usually
spend my days teaching our vet students about parasites parasitologist.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
Hey, will you have coffee with doctor Debbie? She's gonna
love you.

Speaker 17 (27:31):
I've heard that, and yes, I would love to have
coffee with doctor Debbie.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
Oh there's nothing better than talking about what kind of
worm you pulled out of a creature today?

Speaker 17 (27:40):
Well, I agree, I agree, I think. I think we
get along just fine.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Then women talk.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
There you go, it's worm Talk on Animal Radio, and
there's a is this a new worm that this is
called the track and wait, hold on, I can get this.
Come on, drakon, dracon you know what. I gonna let
you go for it.

Speaker 17 (28:01):
Okay, tracunculusulus, Okay, yep. So the group of worms is
not worm, it's not new at all. It's a very
important worm of humans. Actually, so it's the same worm
that's called the guinea worm, and it's a very important
pairasite of people in Africa and South Asia, and luckily

(28:24):
since nineteen eighty six, since the Carter Foundation started their
eradication program, it's much less prevalent. But the particular worm,
the kind of sister worm that we found in these cats. Yes,
this is the first time it was seen in cats
and actually reported.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
How do our cats become infected with this.

Speaker 17 (28:45):
So these worms have to come out of the skin.
They actually emerge from the body of the host.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
I know.

Speaker 17 (28:55):
This is what gets everybody me included. So they come
out of the body, and they are going to deposit
their babies, their larvae into fresh water, and those have
to get into a little crustacean a shrimp like thing
called a copa pod in which they're going to mature.
And if they are able to do that, and something

(29:18):
like a raccoon or a cat or a human ingest
that then that vertebrate host would become infected with the worm.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Oh it sounds like a movie.

Speaker 17 (29:29):
It does it does well?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Now is this how serious is this?

Speaker 17 (29:33):
It's not fatal at all. It has very good prognosis.
The problem is, as you might imagine, you have this
pretty long worm. I don't know if you guys have
seen any pictures of this thing, but it's about a
foot long, and the ones we saw were about half
a foot long. They take a while to come out
of the animal, and they're going to essentially create this

(29:55):
open sore that's going to be present for a number of.

Speaker 9 (29:59):
Days, and people they talk about removing it like with
a match stick and things like that.

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Have you forgotten to remove one from an animal?

Speaker 17 (30:06):
I haven't, so I should have told you that right
up front. So I'm not a veterinarian. I am just
a parasitologist at PhD NO, and I think I think
if I had to remove something by entwining it onto
a stick. So for the human version, the human version
can be about a meter long.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Okay, we're running out of time here. But other than
the other than the six inch worm coming out of
your cat's body, what are the signs that your cat
has this?

Speaker 17 (30:33):
That's about it. They may have a bump instead of
the worm actually coming all the way out. So one
of the cats we saw actually came into the vat
because there was a little bump that became evident, and
so they caught it before it actually started to come out,
and it was surgically removed, which is what they what
the recommendations are. There's no drug treatment for these.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
How can I have the tape of this interview? I
would like to have the full tape, the unedited at this.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Interview, that we'll copy it for you.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
This is going to be a diet. I'm going to
market this as a diet plan because all you got
to do is listen to it, and you're not going
to eat for a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I was just thinking that Judy was saying, I haven't
had spaghetti in a long time, and I said for
lunch today, and I think that those plans are off.
But thanks for hanging with us today. We appreciate it.

Speaker 17 (31:18):
Sure, I think too.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
Do we have on the phone. Jitty's been working tirelessly today,
Big round up applause for Gdhu's book to a fabulous show.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
I love when gdy works hard because you know that
makes uh I don't have to do anything.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
So far she has she has had to call up
middle school and interrupt their classes and have someone run
into a classroom to get fourteen year old Brooke Martin
out of the class to describe her invention, which of
course she'll be coming up next hour. And so that's
the kind of this, that's the kind of your production work.

Speaker 12 (33:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Forget the Josh do Hamill's and the all the celebrities,
the Glenn closes, all those celebrities that come on. There is.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
The man's name correctly. What is wrong with you? What
is wrong with you? Have you and Judy wats win
a day with Tad Hamilton? Has that happened? Because that
was your homework and I want to know if you've
done that.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Right after the show you told me to check it out.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
We watched it years ago and it wasn't very memorable.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
I really can't my favorite movie, man. I'll bet you
Doctor Debbie would like it.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, should like anything with Josh.

Speaker 10 (33:39):
Thank you for getting it right.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
In just a couple of minutes. A lady she's an
amputee and she because she's an amputy, she's working at
one of these prosthetic places and she's invented prosthetics for animals,
for pets, for dogs, and she has a show on
PBS called My Bionic Pet. And we'll be talking to
her just a couple of minutes. Right now, it is
time for Jack Shephard. He is called the beast Master,

(34:02):
the beast Master, and I've asked Judy this is family friendly.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Right it is? I wouldn't do that to you.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Welcome to the show, Jack. Can you please tell me
what the beast Master does?

Speaker 6 (34:10):
Hi? How are you? Yeah? The beast Master is. First
of all, it's a it's a. It's a reference to
a cult adious movie and the assign that I got
to make up my own title. Okay, but what the
beat Master does at BuzzFeed is that I run our
animals section here. We have a great section at BuzzFeed
dot com where we we write things about cute animals.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Cute animals like the kiddies that you see on YouTube,
or what I mean, what is it exactly that you do?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Do you know what you do?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
And do you get paid for doing what you do?

Speaker 4 (34:39):
I do?

Speaker 6 (34:40):
I do amazingly we have it. We have a staff
of three people who are just doing animals stuff. People
on the Internet really love animals and particularly cats, so
we try to keep it at what the animal section
is for is mostly for things that are kind of
uplifting and fun and with our mono is powered by cute,
so it really is kind of the cute side of animals,
but we also try to keep it kind of funny
and interesting and something that that ultimately people will want

(35:01):
to share. And it turns out that on the Internet,
for some reason, the currency of the Internet in some
ways is cats and cat videos, and people love sharing
stuff about animals and peculiarly cats.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
So you spend your day going through scrolling through hundreds
and hundreds of videos and you decide which ones are
going to go viral.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
It's not just videos, it's also pictures and gifts and
sort of stories about animals, things that that real animals
have done, and sort of animals just play such a
big role in people's lives, and there's so much stuff
about animals on the Internet, so it's actually it's pretty
tough to sift through and find the stuff that's actually
going to be interesting to a wide range of people.
So that is a big that is a big part
of what we do.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
If you're online or you're on Facebook, you've undoubtedly seen
a forward or a share from BuzzFeed. We actually went
to one of these internet cat video festivals. Have you
heard of this?

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Uh huh Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I was amazing how many people showed up at that
damn thing.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
It's hugely popular and it's something I spent a lot
of I'm thinking about. I'd love to hear if you
guys have theories about why it is that people on
the internet care more about cats than they care about dogs.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, how can you hate a cat that's looking so cute?
I mean, it'll cheer you up. Someone can say, how
your father just passed away. To look at the cute
little kidies on the internet.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
But you know, cats and videos do so much more
than dogs. I mean, dogs run around and tumble and play.
Cats do that, but cats do so much more. They're vertical,
they get a pie, they have a jump, they attack.
They can do a lot more than a dog can.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
My theory is that dogs are just trying too hard.
When a cat gets in a box, it just feels natural.
It's natural. It just felt like the right thing to
do at the time, and it usually was. And when
a dog does it, it's because he's trying to impress you, right,
which is nice, but you know you want something to
kind of happen naturally.

Speaker 10 (36:44):
Cats don't care.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
They're not trying to impress you.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You should write a book. I think that's next for you.
That's all right. I do.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
I have a book called sixty seven Reasons Cats are
Better than Dogs. Really, there you go, strong. I have
a strong I'm revealing it now. I actually have a
strong cat, which may be another reason why cat stuff
does better on the internet, because enforcing our bias.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I like her job. Guy's got a good gig.

Speaker 10 (37:08):
See how about hi?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Four employees? How your fourth?

Speaker 16 (37:12):
Jack?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Keep us posted when the book comes out, give us
a call. And of course I'm encouraging listers to head
all over to BuzzFeed dot com and check out Jack Shepherd,
the original beast Master. Now you put the original here
because I guess there's been a lot of copycats. Probably, well, we.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
Have, we have other people in our animal section. We've
got Best Master two through the Portal of Time Summer
Burton and Beastmaster three through the Practice straight to DVD.
But that's that's Chelsea who does a lot of our
really great animal stuff for us.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
You guys are wild down there. I bet it's pretty.
I bet you walk into the BuzzFeed offices. It's pretty.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
It's a lot of fun toga party while yeah you know, yeah, okay,
we've had a lot of famous animals come through, which
is well, really like who we met Grumpy Cat? Oh
really will Dub? Yeah we met Colonel mel Yeah, we've
We've we've all the all the major cats except Maru
the Japanese cat.

Speaker 12 (38:07):
Yeah we have.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
We haven't met al the Actually, next time I list
that would be a good.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Get Well, I'll tell you grumpy Cat's on my bucket list,
so to meet grumpy cats of that's well, this has
been fun. This was also on my bucket list. This
interview here, and I'm going to go ahead and cross
it off right now if I can't. Jack, thanks for
joining us, and when the book comes out, give us
a call. We want you on again.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Okay, we'll do great to talk you yet.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
There you go. Jack Shepard calling in from BuzzFeed.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
I thought he's going to be like a real beastmastered
guy that tells animals what to do with his brain.

Speaker 10 (38:35):
So he doesn't actually create anything. He just purposes it
and promotes it.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, yeah, just writes about it. Just since there. With
a pipe in one hand and a computer in the
other hand.

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Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio,
featuring veterinarian doctor Debbie White, groomer Joey Valani, news director
Laurie Brooks, and now from the Red Barn Studios. Here
are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
You know it's funny. The big guy makes the announcement
of all the people that walk in last minute, doesn't
make any announcement of Tammy Juhio, who's been here since
I believe six am. This morning, working hard on finding
the news that matters to you and your animals. Also
on the way, we're talking to a young fourteen year
old inventor who's invented something for your animals, your dogs
and your cast find out fourteen years I was not

(40:39):
an entrepreneur when I was fourteen. I was more of
an entremneur. Is fifteen years old. Let's hit the phones.
Let's go to Nils. Hey, Nils, how are you.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
Just wonder what?

Speaker 11 (40:52):
How do you tell which stock food is the best?

Speaker 8 (40:54):
There's so many people making dog food now, Okay, so.

Speaker 10 (41:00):
Basic question, pick the best food out there?

Speaker 9 (41:02):
Ah, it's such a horrible thing to try to give
advice on because there isn't an absolute answer that you
can just spout off the top ten brands or diets
that are out there. So for any pet owner, when
we're talking about what food do you feed, how do
you know what's a good food? There's a lot of
criteria that we really look at and you kind of
break it down and then I certainly suggest grab that

(41:24):
label of your dog food or the foods you're looking
at and kind of be a conscious shopper look for
certain things. And we definitely always want to have the
AAFC Feeding Trial guidelines met. That is by far one
of the best things you can do, but it's only
kind of a starting point from there. I like to

(41:44):
make sure that the company is a main company that
has a phone number where you can preferably get a
veterinary professional on the phone if you have a question
about that food. That's a very important thing that for me.
Some of the smaller boutiqui places may not always have
that investment in a veterinary resource, so that's important. And
I like to look at certain things, like you know,
the different ingredients meals are good byproducts are bad in general,

(42:10):
as well as you know some of the other things
like sugars, which you know, really there's no place for
that in a dog food. So if you're seeing any
kind of syrups or sugar added just not good, why
get your dogyan on a sugar source they don't really need.

Speaker 10 (42:24):
And then also you.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
Know, it all comes down to palatability. Does your dog
like it, will they eat it? Do they have consistent
GI patterns when they're on that, Do they have any diarrhea,
any vomiting intermittently? If so, you know that may not
be the best food for your dog, and as well
as you know, just want to make sure their hair
coat looks good, everything is nice and routine, and that

(42:45):
when you go into that veterinary office, your vet goes, hey,
what are you feeding your dog? Because I got to
know your dog looks so great. So I've screwed around
that answer, Rick, and I'm sorry for that.

Speaker 10 (42:55):
But but those are some of the different things that
we'd really want to look.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
At about protein content.

Speaker 9 (43:00):
You know, protein is certainly important, and it's the quality
of the protein that's important as well as being upfront
and seeing what kind of protein. So what we don't
want to see is we don't want to see that
they're just listening general meat. We want them to identify
is that chicken?

Speaker 10 (43:14):
Is that beef?

Speaker 9 (43:15):
Is it venison? So yes, the quality is the most
important thing.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So I don't buy your food at Walmart. I don't
think there's any foods there at Walmart? Are they a sponsor?
Not anymore? Oh, I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 9 (43:27):
Yeah, but that's a great thing, how because you know,
a lot of times you're all looking to try to
save money where we can, but you can't necessarily make
a bad diet a good one by supplementing, so you
can actually create more problems by feeding.

Speaker 10 (43:41):
A crappy food diet for your dog.

Speaker 9 (43:43):
And you know, you can go a long way with
good sound nutrition just to prevent disease.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
So Judie's just running into the studio. What's the deal
with this interview? Here? This is the teen inventor fourteen
year old.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Teen inventor year old teen inventor.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, invented a gadget for your dogs and cats.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
She was going to do the interview on her dad's
cell and I just called her dad's cell and he
doesn't know anything about it, so he's trying to see
where she is. Oh he's yeah, he offered to do
the interview.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
But I want to speak to that that that's very nice.
That's nearly four year old.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I want to speak to the girl. So the publicist
set it up but didn't tell the dad, and I
don't even maybe the publicist didn't even tell the girl.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Oh that's too bad.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
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Speaker 19 (44:37):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Hi, Patty, where are you calling.

Speaker 20 (44:40):
From from Abingdon, Virginia.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Where is that Virginia east to west side anywhere near Charlottesville?

Speaker 12 (44:46):
Uh?

Speaker 20 (44:46):
No upper east to see lower southwest Virginia.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Oh yes, oh yes, let me guess you got a
flea problem.

Speaker 20 (44:53):
No, no, I have a PARSI problem.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Okay, well I have the doctor here, Doctor Debbie is
here to help you applye.

Speaker 10 (45:00):
So what kind of critter is getting sick?

Speaker 20 (45:03):
Well? She her mother was a Rottweiler and it's a
mixed breed. There was a lab and a coon dog
and a Golden Retriever involved as being dad. So take
your pick. And she's precious. And I have her litter mate, Sampson,
but he doesn't get sick at all. But I've done

(45:25):
all kinds of conditioning and she will get into the
car now, no problem. I have property in North Carolina,
and where I go, my dogs go. But Karma starts
just salivating profusely right after she gets in the car.
As soon as I put it in gear and start
to travel, she is niagara files and continues to.

Speaker 12 (45:48):
Be that way.

Speaker 20 (45:50):
Okay, I have tried everything that I know of and
that the vet knows up, and that's several holistic doctors.

Speaker 10 (46:00):
As soon as she gets in the car.

Speaker 20 (46:01):
Yeah, well, now she can sit in the car without
it running. As soon as I put it in gear,
before I even get out of the driveway, which is
maybe twenty feet, she's drooling.

Speaker 10 (46:12):
Okay. And does she actually vomit and gets sick to
her stomach?

Speaker 20 (46:16):
No, she never vomits now. She did when she was
a tiny puppy. She just turned fifteen. Well, she turns
fifteen months old on Monday. But she threw up when
she was a puppy. But she doesn't throw up up now.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
It's just the.

Speaker 20 (46:29):
Salivation and it gets to where, you know, it's like
hanging down from her mouth. But he's a king's eyes
comforter under them, and it's dripping wet.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
Okay, all right, Well, I'm going to challenge this diagnosis
of car sickness because it's not car sickness, Okay, not
in the true sense.

Speaker 10 (46:47):
Of the word.

Speaker 9 (46:48):
If our pat gets in the car, and before you
really start traveling, if we're starting to see symptoms, you've
got anxiety. So you've got more car anxiety than necessarily
true motion sickness. All of those motion sickness remedies that
I had popping up in my head that I was
going to tell you about some great medicines. They're not
necessarily going to be helpful for your dog because she's

(47:11):
displaying anxious behaviors from step one of the vehicle. And
the trick with that, as you said, you know you've
done some conditioning, we need to step back and do more.
Some pets we may do that with just just behavioral therapy.
Other pets we might throw in an anti anxiety medicine.
So knowing I don't know all the details of your

(47:34):
pets health situation, but that might be something.

Speaker 10 (47:36):
If you've already tried some behavioral steps.

Speaker 9 (47:38):
And it hasn't worked, I would you know, ask your
vet if this might be something that would be appropriate
for your dog. But that all being said, the basic
concepts with the counterconditioning and desensitization that we want to
do is we want to have every little step of
the way be a positive experience associated with the vehicle.
So if already you're kind of putting in and backing

(48:00):
out and you're getting drooling, we have.

Speaker 10 (48:02):
To take a step back before that ever happens.

Speaker 9 (48:05):
And four pets that are that severe, and I'll tell
you that's pretty bad. I'll be honest, a lot of
my patients it's more when they're actually driving and there's movement,
but in your situation, the fact that it's happening so soon,
we really need to see about making the car a
positive experience in a positive, positive place. So it's gonna
mean a lot of different kind of practicing staging. So

(48:28):
what I'll often do is turn your car into the
sight of good things. So what we're gonna do is
we're gonna say, okay, we're gonna feed you inside the
car with the door open. The dog food bowl goes
on the on the on the chair in the or
in the seat in the car, and that's gonna be
the place where you give treats or you give food,
or where you put a special fun thing. And you're

(48:50):
not going to allow that car to actually make any noise.
You're not gonna drive it. You're just going to turn
into something really positive. And for some dogs this might
mean you're not even gonna open the door. You might
do it by the side of the door, just to
make the general vicinity of very fun and favorable things.
So this could take a period of maybe for some
dogs just a couple of days for other dogs.

Speaker 10 (49:11):
Each of these little steps.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
You're gonna have to take much longer because if there's
any anxiety, you see the eyes are darting around her body,
postures is becoming crouched or very anxious looking, tail is
held low, or if you see that drooling, those are
signs you're pushing her a little too fast, and we
don't want that, so you want to make sure each
step she's kind of very comfortable with that.

Speaker 10 (49:32):
So you're gonna.

Speaker 9 (49:33):
Reward her for being near the car, rewarded for going
into the car, eating in the car, and then not
ever doing anything.

Speaker 10 (49:40):
And this takes a lot of work.

Speaker 9 (49:41):
And then eventually what we hope to do is turn
the car on and then still have positive calm behavior
by your dog and reward her along the lope along
the way if she is doing that any sign of
anxiety and we stop.

Speaker 10 (49:55):
But hopefully we'll get up to where you.

Speaker 9 (49:57):
Can turn on the car and get in gear and
go back in to back out of the driveway. But
that is what it's going to take to actually try
to get this gal comfortable with the idea of car travel.
Then you work up to going around the block and
trying to get distance in it. But for her, she
sounds like she's got anxiety about the very concept of
this car leaving the yard.

Speaker 20 (50:17):
But yes, I had to do a lot just because
she used to just I mean, if she saw the car,
and actually it's the van, but if she saw it,
she would walk a wide berth around it. So I've
worked her up to where I mean, she actually gets
in fine.

Speaker 11 (50:31):
But then, like I.

Speaker 20 (50:32):
Said, I start the car, but it took all winner.

Speaker 9 (50:36):
Yeah, well, it sounds like you have the right idea.
It's just I think that step from A to B
is maybe a little too fast. We just got to
get a little bit more time to get comfortable with
that concept. And it's hard because I know, if you
if you're traveling, you want to take your baby, But
you know, putting her in that car and taking her
can be very counterproductive to.

Speaker 10 (50:55):
These steps that you're trying to do.

Speaker 9 (50:56):
So as much she might want to have her with you,
it may not be in her best interest right now
while she's still trying to cope with this anxiety about
getting in that car. So you might have to make
some alternate plans until we kind of get her up
to speed.

Speaker 10 (51:08):
For things.

Speaker 20 (51:09):
Okay, well, thank you so much, and that's what I
will start working on because I just I just assumed
that it was car sickness. To all the beds say no,
it's car sickness. I thought inner ear problems. But her
in her ears are absolutely fine, so it's not. The
anxiety makes perfect sense.

Speaker 10 (51:28):
And it gets more complicated. You get a dog who
does have car sickness, and they have that they get
nausea from being in movement.

Speaker 9 (51:36):
And then they start to get fearful about it. So
you can get a dog that has the overlap of
two different things. But it sure sounds like in your
youngster there that you got more just anxiety going on.
So good luck with that, Patty. I hope she gets
up to being your sidekick in the car and getting
to enjoy when you're traveling.

Speaker 20 (51:52):
Thank you, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1 (53:22):
Let's head on over to Rebecca. I believe it's Rebecca.
Is this Rebecca?

Speaker 21 (53:27):
Regina?

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Regina? Sorry about that? What's going on? Regina?

Speaker 21 (53:30):
Okay? My question is we have two Africa greats, but
the youngest one, his name is Ready, and we should
get him at the pet shop like a month ago.
He was He was at a pressure for nine months.
He was a baby and he never grow tell that
was the reason why they pit shot up there and

(53:51):
was not able to sell it. So he was a
good price on it. But we really like him because
nobody was going to take him home nowhere, So or
my question is is he going to grow hotel ever?
Because I tried to keep him busy. I put toys
in the cage. I try to keep him understand most
of the time for him not to be issues. It's

(54:12):
just leaning against the cage wall. So why you can
tell me about it?

Speaker 10 (54:17):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (54:17):
So just so I understand he has not grown his
tail feathers in or is he You witness him plucking them.

Speaker 21 (54:23):
Out some as soon as they start growing up, he
just plug them.

Speaker 10 (54:28):
Out, okay. And is he housed with other birds or
is he by himself?

Speaker 21 (54:33):
He was by himself at the time while he was
in the pit shop. Right now we have more than
one bit at home, so he's socializing with other vers now.
So his attitude is changing little by little, okay.

Speaker 10 (54:47):
Because that would be one big thing. Now.

Speaker 9 (54:49):
I do see some juvenile African grades that tend to
do this. Yeah, I'm being captivity and sometimes just when
they're kind of stressed in kind of these pet store situations,
it's kind of what they do, just kind of so
and kind of preen each other. But it can get excessive,
and it actually can also kind of be triggered by
some anxiety problems too. So I like the idea that
you're trying to find him things to do, you're trying

(55:10):
to socialize him. But I'm also a little bit concerned
because in some cases we can see excessive tail feather
chewing and plucking when there's actually problems medically going on
down there. So there can actually be pain, inflammation, or
even problems with the prem gland, the little kind of
oil gland over the.

Speaker 10 (55:30):
Tail base area.

Speaker 9 (55:32):
So if you haven't had him checked by a VET
an avian veterinarian, I would certainly start with that first,
because anything you try to do behaviorally to correct this,
we're not going to get anywhere if there is something
medically we need to address.

Speaker 21 (55:45):
Okay, because I keep checking and him and I don't
see any any like bleeding fats, then you know because
something poserne about it. So I check and everything is dry,
is not is not bleeding or it's not none in fiction.
So that's why I'd like to keep him busy, put
toys inside the cage when during any time that he's
in the cage. And he seems to be doing better now,

(56:07):
but I'm going to find of what you say, I
want to try to see the bed, take him to
the doctor. And as since I have more than one,
actually I was trying to find a place where I
can what do I need to do to check on
these six because I have more than one, so I
really want to know what I have, how many boys
or gids I have?

Speaker 9 (56:25):
So Okay, yeah, definitely, And i'd say, for you know,
for this guy's you know, interest, I want to make
sure that he's staying active to so you know, you've
got some things for him to do.

Speaker 10 (56:36):
But there's also ways you can hide the food in
his cage to keep him occupied.

Speaker 9 (56:41):
And kind of going back to this feather picking birds,
it's horribly frustrating and becomes really some repetitive behaviors and
and I think a lot of times, you know, we
just kind of have to think out of the box
to keep our birds busy and to keep them from
picking themselves so you know, there's little ways you can
kind of hide their food in pieces of bald of
paper so that he has to kind of pick through

(57:01):
the paper to get to the food.

Speaker 10 (57:02):
And if the time he spends make it interesting, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (57:07):
So the time that you know cage birds, we pretty
much present the food to them, sit it in front
of them and say okay, go ahead and eat.

Speaker 10 (57:12):
And it's boring. You know, it's very boring.

Speaker 8 (57:14):
So because he's the.

Speaker 21 (57:15):
Only time when he gets very actively when he's when
he's hungry and he starts. So what I did is
I remove the food from the cach and I play understand.
So what I do is I forced him to walk
up with the cage and get the food. Was he's
out of the cage because he's very irrational. Now he's like,
he's very he's very he doesn't let me pet him

(57:35):
or anything. So he's a fight so he's very aggressive.
To what I try to do issues make him get
up the cage and close the cache and try to
keep him understand because most of the time he's cleaning
against the cach and a corner, like in a sitting position.
So I will like that never is gonna let the
tail to grow any better because he's always against the
floor or the cage, so I try to keep him

(57:55):
understand most of the time.

Speaker 9 (57:57):
Yeah, and then one other thing and your can to
help you with this as well, is sometimes you know,
African grays are big birds.

Speaker 10 (58:04):
Sometimes if their wings are trimmed a.

Speaker 9 (58:06):
Little bit overly aggressively, it causes them to fall and
injure their tail feathers more and that can lead to
inflammation in the feather shaft.

Speaker 10 (58:13):
So that's where you know, I.

Speaker 9 (58:15):
Know you're not seeing anything going on there, but this
is where the veterinary eyes might be helpful and determining
if there's something like that that we need to back
down on a wing trim, use some anti inflammatory pain
leavers to help. So that's kind of so there's a
lot we can try in that avenue. Now, you did
bring up something about sexting these guys, so there's definitely
a blood test. We can do a DNA blood test

(58:35):
to sex birds that you just can't tell from the
outside what sex they are, and that too, your your
avian veterinarian can help you with that. We either draw
blood from one of the veins or even sometimes just from.

Speaker 10 (58:45):
A tonial trim.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
But yeah, so that can definitely be done, and it
might help you kind of understand some of your Birdie's
behavior as well.

Speaker 21 (58:52):
So really, because it really something spatial, because I have
this issue with back my other Africa was plugging the
credit from his chest. But I give him more toys,
am I allow him more time off the gag? And
that's your plot. He's all socialized in and all over
the place now and a night they sleeping the cage.
So maybe really is younger than the party. So I

(59:15):
was hoping that that is pun of you. But I'm
going to pall to what you saying. Thank you for
taking my call, and I love your show, so you thank.

Speaker 10 (59:21):
You so much for Gina. We appreciate your call.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I did not realize you were bilingual, you know.

Speaker 9 (59:27):
Sometimes you know, I definitely you know, people from all
walks of life coming in here and all places across
the globe.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
So I did not understand a word of that. But
she was talking about a bird, right, sexing her bird, right, yes.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
Sexing a bird and feather picking and her African grain.

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So yes, I'm such an idiot.

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This is an Animal Radio News update.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
I'm Tammy Triheo. Well, what kind of pet you have?
Apparently says a lot about you. CareerBuilder dot com sponsored
and online survey looking for a connection between a person's
pet and that person's profession, their annual salary, and their level.

Speaker 10 (01:00:49):
Of job satisfaction. Now, amongst some of.

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The results, CEOs are primarily dog owners, Snake and reptile
owners are among the highest paid workers out there, earning
six figure salaries. People who like their jobs generally have
a bird at home doctors, lab techs, personal caregivers, and
realtors tend to have cats as pets, and fish usually
belong to people working in the financial field or the

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hotel and leisure industries. Now, remember the studies just for funds,
so if you don't match up, don't freak out. You
have the right pet, Okay, please don't rush out and
change pets on us. Some dogs they have a real
fascination with their tails, and it might not be anything
to worry about, But then again, it might be Most
of the time it's simply your dog enjoying some exercise

(01:01:34):
in a very pet centric way. But some scientists are
now saying if your dog keeps on doing this, it
could be a sign of an anal gland problem, flee,
allergic dermatitis, or the medical issues. And in some dogs
they now know it could actually be a sign of
obsessive compulsive disorder, and you can check to see if
it is by noting whether you can distract your dog
from a serious tail chasing session or not. Now, this

(01:01:56):
could actually have some huge implications for people of zeroed
in on four janes that are connected to OCD and dogs. Now,
if those same genes are found to be malfunctioning in
the human version of the disorder, and some studies seem
to indicate they really are. This could eventually lead scientists
to develop better drugs to deal with obsessive compulsive disorder.

Speaker 10 (01:02:17):
I'm Tammy Trheo.

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Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Hi talent cable. You know. Thirty three percent of us
pet owners talk to our pets on the phone with
the answering machine when we're away. Sixty two percent of
us signed letters and cards, so it looks like it's
coming from both you and your pet. Seventy nine percent
give their pets holiday and birthday presents, fifty percent of
those actually throw birthday celebration parties, and seventeen percent of
us sometimes dress our pets. You probably heard about the

(01:02:49):
labradoodle that looks like a lion.

Speaker 10 (01:02:51):
Are you sick?

Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
Oh yeah. Listen to some of the ninety one to
one calls, and.

Speaker 8 (01:02:55):
They're a lion that went the street of baby lion, lion,
a baby lion andthing here's his owner.

Speaker 11 (01:03:02):
I tell people he's a lab of lion.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
When people see Charlie the dog walking. They really freak out.

Speaker 11 (01:03:06):
I've seen him literally dive through the window to get
in the car. Think of a lion as after them.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Oh, this stuff's fun. We all love to humanize our dogs,
don't we give them human emotions. I was at soccer
on Saturday and this guy comes up and says, can
I pet your dog? I said sure. He commences to
act in like a nut.

Speaker 13 (01:03:24):
Oh you're a good boy.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
You're just such a good boy. I said, dude, come on,
you need to get him all wound up. And I've
taught him he needs to be calm. Here's the irony.
He tells me he noticed how calm and mellow and
well behaved my dog is. I said, then, why are
you trying to chuice him up like that? I said, buddy,
you gotta be calm when you pet a dog, Just mellow.
You don't want to act like his head is the
hope diamond. Of course, he doesn't get it, or he
doesn't want to get it. And here's more irony. He

(01:03:47):
tells me he's got dogs and he doesn't believe in
ever putting him on a leash. And he says, you
know why, here's why, would you want to be on
a leash? I already know the answer, but just for
the heck of it, I asked him, do you bring
your dogs out? He says, no, of course not. I
can't bring him anywhere. I can't control him. That m
I knock down a kid or an old woman. Of course,
he doesn't hear what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
It's not the it's not the breed, it's the owner.

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
The owner is everything when you talk dog, the owner
is the whole ball of wax. You know, when you
got a person who's educated and understands what their breed
needs and gives their dogs structure and leadership and exercise
and then attention given at the right time in the
right way, you will have a great, happy, calm, well adjusted,
fantastic dog like Kayla.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Kayla, of course, belongs to Brook, fourteen year old Brook,
who we will talk to in just a couple of minutes.
She's an inventor and she's invented something for your dog
so that your dog won't have separation anxiety. I always
love these young inventors. They're fourteen fourteen years old, so
I hope it's good because at fourteen years old, my
invention was at least for my science project was the
well the volcano that exploded with the baking soda. That

(01:04:52):
was about all that I could do at that age.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
Oh, it was drool. I thought drool was your big that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Was my big one. But hey, Alan, I got to
tell you something. You know, guess who has an idea?

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
Here? I have an idea sometimes maybe once never what.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Who you, Tammy has an idea?

Speaker 10 (01:05:06):
I do an idea?

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
I love ideas, Tammy, because I've never I've never seen one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
But I already told her then you would take fifty
percent of it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
Now I won't take fifty percent. I won't tell you.
You just tell me what the idea is, and I'll
and I just I just love ideas.

Speaker 12 (01:05:18):
Just give me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Let me tell you. I tried to pitch him on
my prescription windshield because I thought that would be a
great idea, always forgetting my glasses in the cart. Oh,
I like that idea. Actually, I've been very excited about this.
Next guest, I welcome Jennifer Robinson to the year. Hi Jennifer,
how are you doing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:33):
Hi?

Speaker 23 (01:05:33):
Thank you so much. I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
You you have been wearing a prosthetic since two years old.

Speaker 23 (01:05:38):
Yeah, absolutely, I had. I was born with a bilateral
formoral proximal DEFICIENCYPFFD, and I had a corrective amputation when
I was probably before I was about eighteen months old. Wow,
I was born with a small foot on the right side.
And so after I had the amputation, it was me

(01:06:00):
with my prosthesis and I've been using one ever since,
which is pretty It was a long time, so thirty
five years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Okay, yeah, and you actually work at a prosthetic maker,
is that correct?

Speaker 23 (01:06:12):
You know, I worked at a prosthetic clinic, or thought
it a prosthetic clinic called westcast Brasion, when actually for
fifteen years, And it was an incredible experience. It was
wonderful and I got to meet a lot of other people,
different ages, young, old, different amputation circumstances, different types of

(01:06:36):
prosthetic devices that they all used, and you know, every
time I met somebody, their story was so different. But
the thing that sort of tied us all together was
this ability to adapt and move on. So it was
an incredible experience. It was a great place to work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Now, what type of prosthetics do they make? Was it
just for humans or was it for animals as well.

Speaker 23 (01:06:56):
They did see quite a number of non human patients, dogs,
cats of all sizes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Wow. Well, so like legs for cats and dogs.

Speaker 23 (01:07:08):
Yep, legs you know, a journey. The Golden Retriever is
a therapy dog that I met there several years ago
who was born missing a front paw, and he's sort of,
you know, our most well known non human patient, and
he wears a prosthetic paw every day, and he actually

(01:07:30):
goes to hospitals in the area and sort of walks,
you know, through the hospitals and the patients that are
in the hospital, and it's amazing that connection.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Well, let's talk about the dogs real fast, because I've
seen lots of tripod dogs many and they you know what,
they don't know that they they're missing a leg. They
go on about their business like it's no big deal.
My question is when we put a prosthetic on them,
are we doing it for us or are we doing
it for them? Does it make a big difference for them?

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
You know?

Speaker 23 (01:07:57):
To be honest, I think it's a little bit of both,
you know. I think it makes us feel good to
be able to take care of our fellow creatures here
but you know, a Journey would not wear the prosthesis, right,
it didn't help him, you know what I mean. So
he puts it on every morning to go, and it
makes it easier for him to I mean, because it's

(01:08:19):
the same thing with a human being. You know, if
you're you're pretty more stress. He's putting more stress on
his three other legs when he doesn't have the prosthesis.
It's really adorable because he takes it off and then
he sniffs his little leg, you know, and licks and
cleans it and everything like that at night. It's adorable,
and he knows when to put it on every morning.
So I don't think an animal isn't going to wear

(01:08:40):
a prosthesis because oh this is this is going to
make me look quote unquote normal, or you know, like
because of the perception. An animal is going to tolerate
a prosthesis every day because it helps them.

Speaker 12 (01:08:52):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I also notice with Journey is it's the front leg
and the front leg. From my understanding, it's a little
harder if they lose a front leg because you they
bear their weight on the front. On the back, they
can get around with three legs.

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
Yeah, they're definitely there's more body weight that's just dispersed
on the front limbs. But you know, I think the
interesting thing with the prosthetics is, you know, we're talking dogs,
but there's a lot of other creatures that this has
really helped. And you know there's stories of you know, dolphins, alligators,
you know, having prosthetics to help them be regular animals.
So you know, we're not talking about, you know, necessarily

(01:09:23):
being pet companions. But you know there's wild birds different
collections where they can have you know, beak replacements, they
can have prosthetic legs. And you know, the closest thing
I come to in my office is the tortoises. After
we have to imputate their limbs, you know, we give
them either a little rolling a wheel or a skid plate,
so nothing quite so high tech.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
W'd you just see? Did you guys see about a
week ago the woman who's a professional surfer and a
tiger shark bit her arm off, and she kept competing
and she just now won the championship after ten years.
She never gave up. I mean, it's so many inspirational stories.
I'm just so motivated by folks that, you know, they
have an obstacle, they overcome it. They don't want anybody
to feel sorry for him. People like you. I mean,

(01:10:04):
you're just an inspiration to everyone, and it's wonderful to
talk to you.

Speaker 17 (01:10:08):
No, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:10:09):
I know that Darwin, you know, the Survival of the fittest,
you know, but I think that it really should be called,
you know, survival of the creatures that can adapt sure best.
And I think that you know, human, dog, cat, elephant, horse,
if you can adapt, you got a maid.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yeah, yeah, well that's what I'm all about. I'm actually
I'm actually the missing link and a lot of people.

Speaker 7 (01:10:31):
Of that hell actually has a prosthetic head.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Yeah, I've overcome a lot of adversity, which is amazing.
Thank you for hanging with us today, Jennifer Robinson. And
let's talk about the TV program really fast before you go.
It's on PBS. It's called My Bionic Pet. What's that
all about and how are you involved?

Speaker 23 (01:10:49):
Well, basically, the show sort of tracks, you know, all
different types of animals and the one thing that they
all have in common is that they are wearing some
sort of press device. So you're going to see different species,
You're gonna see different technologies, and the one thing that
ties them together is number one, that people have come

(01:11:10):
together to improve the lives of these animals.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Jennifer, you're awesome. Oh I'm eas I hope to talk
to you again real soon.

Speaker 23 (01:11:18):
All right, you take care.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
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Speaker 17 (01:12:45):
Just know that it's going to be alright me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
If you had no chance yet to download the Animal
Radio app, now's the time to do it, well, not
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(01:13:34):
right now? Do we have her? Do we were we
able to get this lady on the phone? Yes, hey Brooke,
how are you doing?

Speaker 24 (01:13:40):
Hi good?

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
How are you splendid?

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Are you in school? Did we get we caught you?

Speaker 24 (01:13:44):
At school, didn't we Yeah, I'm on my lunch right now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
So what's for lunch? What are you eating?

Speaker 24 (01:13:50):
You know I'm not eating right now, but I'm not
sure yet.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Well, now tell our listeners. You invented something great for
the animals, great for dogs especially. What is it you invented?

Speaker 24 (01:13:59):
So it's just ice called icy Pooch, and it's a
device that lets you video chat with your dog and
deliver a treat to them remotely. So while you're away
from home, whether it's at work on vacation, you basically
can go on your smartphone, tablet or computer and call
if your dog. It's two way video chat. And then

(01:14:19):
there's a button that when you press it, it swipes
out a cookie to your dog at home.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Wow, how did you think of this?

Speaker 24 (01:14:28):
Well, it was kind of for an eighth grade school
project when I was twelve. My Golden re treever Kayla.
When we first adopted her, she suffered from really bad
separation anxiety. So I wanted a way to kind of
help calm her down while we were away and just
kind of comfort her and other dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
There's a video chat feature so she can actually see she.

Speaker 24 (01:14:50):
Can see and hear me and I can see and
hear her and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
That doesn't freak her out.

Speaker 24 (01:14:54):
Huh, no, it doesn't. I mean she really responds to
my commands. So I can tell to sit, lay down,
wait for a cookie, and yeah, she responds.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Really Well, what is it can dog see on TV
or on a screen like that? If the can actually
see the picture of you?

Speaker 24 (01:15:13):
They can, And you know, there's been a lot of
you know, kind of people have asked that question a lot,
but there have been several studies that show dogs can
see LCD screens.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
When your dog goes to this. Does she do it
during the day maybe, or when you're actually there just
to get the treat?

Speaker 17 (01:15:30):
She does?

Speaker 24 (01:15:31):
You know, sometimes when we're actually there, she'll just lay
down by it. Like last night at dinner, we looked
over and she was just laying next to it, just
looking at it, waiting for a tree. I think they
definitely catch on once they realize what it does and
how it works. But it's it's really fun and fun
to watch them interact.

Speaker 7 (01:15:50):
Well, what a smart kid.

Speaker 6 (01:15:52):
Though unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
I'm in my eighth grade school project had to do
with codboard and glue and paper.

Speaker 10 (01:15:58):
This girl is going to be a million, Yeah, but
at times just twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Is this your first idea?

Speaker 24 (01:16:02):
This is I mean, this is kind of my first
big idea that I've developed, but I've always kind of
been an entrepreneur at heart.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
So, well, you were a part of the Young Scientist
Challenge and tell us a little bit about what that is.

Speaker 24 (01:16:16):
Yeah, So it's the Discovery Education three M Young Scientists Challenge,
and every year they put on this challenge for kids'
grades five through eight. So basically, kids from all over
the United States enter a one to two minute video
talking about an invention or idea that they have. So

(01:16:37):
I decided to enter because it sounded like a lot
of fun, and I was actually selected as a top
ten finalist. So that was such an amazing, you know
thing to hear, and I was really excited. And I
got to work with a three M scientist over the
summer to kind of help test and develop the idea.

(01:16:59):
So that was an amazing experiences to be able to
work with her. And then in October and I flew
to Saint Paul where the three M Innovation Center is
and I competed against the nine other finalists where I
took second.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Place, So amazing truly amazing and I'm just looking at
it was so fun. I mean, she also has a whore.
She has she studies piano violin and maintains a four
point zero gpo.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Oh, you're one of those, aren't you? Yeah, you're that
you're that girl? The uh so, the icy pooch is
what you named it? I C pooch? Can we purchase
it now?

Speaker 7 (01:17:38):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Is it available now?

Speaker 24 (01:17:40):
No, it's not available yet. We are beginning the manufacturing
process and we'll be selling in May.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Wow, very exciting stuff. Well, will you keep us posted
and let us know when it comes out?

Speaker 24 (01:17:51):
For me, definitely, Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
You can go back to your lunch right now. What
is it? Peanut butter and jelly?

Speaker 24 (01:17:56):
Okay, probably take care.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
There she goes amazing young lady there that is fourteen
year old? Yeah, isn't it? Brooke and her dog Kayla?
When she invented this device because Kayla was getting separation anxiety.

Speaker 10 (01:18:12):
You know, I hate I mean I don't really hate,
I just hate it because she's so much better than me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Yeah, she's got.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Her stuff together at fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
I know, that is unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
What a smart kid.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
She sounds more mature than some of our older.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Intervieweeks, some of our our hosts.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Yeah really, what are you looking at me for?

Speaker 7 (01:18:32):
But she don't get nine dollars a group of cat.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yeah that's all we have time for today, thankfully, but
we had a lot of fun. I want to thank
Brook Martin, little fourteen year old Brooke Martin. I want
to thank beast Master Jack Jack Shepherd and amputee Jennifer Robinson.
Do we really have to call her amputee Jennifer Robinson?
I think she can stand on her own. Be sure
to check out the Animal Radio app for iPhone and Android.
It's a free download and listen to the so anytime

(01:18:55):
you want, as well as ask questions of the dream team.
Have yourself a great week. We'll see her next week
right here on the Fine Station for more Animal Radio
See you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Bye bye.

Speaker 7 (01:19:03):
Love me, doctor Debbie, just love me.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
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