Beth Stern Tells Us Howard Is A Softie Around Their Foster Animals

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Alan Cable, groomer Joey Vallani, communicator Joy Turner, and here
are your hosts, Tale Rooms and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Coming up this hour, Beth Stern, Betho Beth Stern, That's
what I'm gonna call her. We're gonna interview her. I'm
not going to ask anything about Howard Stern because I
think that's taken the high road, although everybody wants me to.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, but that's her man, that's her husband. Shouldn't she
be proud? I mean, why would that be taking the
low road talking about her man, her better half. I
mean that reflects directly on her that she chose him.
I mean that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, but she doesn't want an every interview to be
about him. She can stand on her own and speak
about herself and.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
She's absolutely But you know that doesn't mean you make
believe he doesn't exist. I mean, like he's not there?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Mechanism?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Also this hour, the founder of the Center for Pet Safety,
Lindsey Wolco. I'm having trouble talking. Yes, I am.

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I am the real house. And she says that all
these pet restrained systems that we put in our cars
to make it easier to travel with our animals, she
says they'll fail one hundred percent failure rate. And so
we'll find out a bit more about that coming up
in just a couple of minutes. Right here, let's head
to the phones. Hey, Jeane, Hello, how you doing. Where
are you calling from today?

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With your animals and the cheese sandwiches there.

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In the.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
Okay? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:50):
I have a ten year old greyhound and she's unlike
any other greyhound that I have in that she's very
picky as far as what she wants to eat. And
I could probably fill her bold like forever and to
the top, and she'll only eat a certain amount when

(02:12):
I am away for a while and she has to
board somewhere. She can be very fussy and sometimes won't
eat mm hmm. And I can never really keep weight
on her, So I have the whole opposite problem of
people who need to take weight off their dogs. I
can never really keep weight on her.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yep, no.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Matter what I see her, and she'll be She'll be
even picky as far as with treats and things like
that too. So if she wants to eat them, she will.
If she doesn't, she won't.

Speaker 9 (02:47):
Now have you had her for all of the ten
years or did you just get her?

Speaker 6 (02:50):
I actually got her when she was just about two
years old, which was pretty young. They usually come off
the track around five years old if they've raced it all. Okay,
she did not. She never made it to even attempt
to do that, so okay.

Speaker 9 (03:08):
And has she eaten? Have you fed her dry food
all that time? Or can food or people food?

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Sometimes I'll mix in some some other things. I even
sprinkle some cheese, some shreaded cheese, which she loves. She
does like that. But you know she'll pick through certain
things and then only eat in a certain amount.

Speaker 9 (03:27):
Well, a picky eater can definitely be very frustrating. And
normally the callers I get about picky eaters, they're usually
small breeds of dogs, toy breeds that just kind of
turn up their nose at things. So it's a little
bit different having, you know, a large breed dog with us.
But greyhounds are kind of like cats. I gotta say.
They're just kind of different. Yeah, yeah, they're very different.

(03:49):
They're not your normal dogs. So a lot of I
guess feeding strategies that we would have is sometimes the
desire to dress the food up is very real. And
I can't see your dog, so I can't say how
thin or not thin she is.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
But for me, you know, you can see, you know,
you can see her. She's not you know, right now,
she's not totally underweight, but she was when I came
back from vacation, she had lost quite a few pounds
and a lot of ribs were showing, you know. But
and that's why I didn't know if this maybe.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
Let me tell you what you know.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Of course, she's getting to be almost a senior dog too,
whether there's issues that way too.

Speaker 9 (04:36):
Well, and that was going to be the first thing
is that greyhounds. The number one thing I think of
with greyhounds when we get to that age is rotten teeth.
They are just not a breed that has really good
period donal health. So for me, I would want to
make sure that you've had her teeth clean, that we're
in good health, because they are some of the most
rotten mouths that we encounter in veterinary practice. Greyhounds. Just

(04:58):
from two three four years of age, they've already got
really severe periodontal disease and are loosing teeth. Yeah, so
that's definitely something that I would want to make sure
and if if your vet hasn't done some current lab
work on or make sure by all means that you
do that, because there definitely can be things under the surface,
kidney disease, livery issues, stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
But I was going to have her teeth done and
she did have some issues with her blood work, and
then she didn't have her teeth done, although I was
able to scrape some stuff off of her teeth, so
they're not super bad. Okay, Well, nothing that's like Roy,
you know, all right, Well.

Speaker 9 (05:37):
You know, if they found something on her lab work
that was abnormal, that's as a veterinarian, the first thing
that I got to go back to is if there's
a health disorder that we need to address in some
way that kind of changes the recommendations entirely. So a
ten year old dog that's night eating, that has something
abnormal and blood work, we have to address that. Because

(05:57):
dogs with kidney disease very commonly will lose their appetite
from something called uremic astritis. So no matter what we
throw at them and what we put in that bowl,
they may not eat really well. So that can be
something that trying to overcome that can be very difficult.
So we'll probably need a little more info on the
background of the lab work. But what I will tell

(06:18):
you is that we often will do what we will
often do if we have a picky eater. Is I
like something called hot dog soup, and I use this
a lot for dogs that are picky eaters. And you
basically take hot dogs, you boil it, and you use
the water. You don't have to always dress a dog's
food with other food items, so sometimes just the moisture

(06:39):
and the kind of the essence of the hot dog
wonderful it is. You can add it to the dog's
food and it kind of makes a little bit more appetizing,
and for a dog that may have some dental issues,
it softens the food. So that also makes it more appetizing.
But if we just have a picky eater who is
just picky because of behavioral issues and not a health issue,
I want to make sure we have good structure. So

(07:01):
you've got to make sure that you put the food
down at set times and that it comes up at
set times. That is very important for a dog that
is a peaky eater. We want them to know when
the food is going to be provided and when it's
going to go away. The other things that we'll do,
and a ten year old dog may not be the
best candidate for this, but we we find different types
of waste to incorporate food. So we might have the

(07:23):
little food dispensing toys that they can kind of shake
around or chew on or play with that will drop
little kibbles out, and that gives it makes it fun,
makes it more interactive, because some dogs are like cats,
they just don't like to go up to the bowl
and eat. They want to kind of use it like prey.
So that makes it more fun. And if your pet
is one that we can exercise, it is a known

(07:45):
fact that dogs that exercise more eat more. So if
I have a little dog that doesn't like to eat
a little little poodle or teacup chihuahua. I'll tell the people,
get your dog on a leash, take it for a walk,
get it out, get it swimming, get it due in stide,
because when they come back to that bowl, they're gonna
have an appetite. So that's another thing you can definitely
think about trying to add in there. But uh, Alan,

(08:09):
I hear you.

Speaker 10 (08:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
The more the more focused and I can tell you
know you talk about dressing the food up, and the
more this dog learns by not eating that he's going
to get your attention, that he's going to get you
to dress up his food, that he's going to get
you to give him different things. The more he's going
to use food to manipulate you and not eat because
he's already learned that by not eating, he gets different things.

(08:31):
He gets your attention, he gets you to jump through
hoops a dog. Most of the time, when people say
their dogs are finicky, it's because they are so obsessed
with getting their dogs to eat. They don't realize that
their dog is controlling the entire situation. And like doctor
Debbie says, if a dog exercises a lot, and you
just stick the food there and just walk away and
go about your business. The dog will eat when the

(08:53):
dog gets hungry. Now, a dog that's been given people
food and all these different variations of for a long
period of time, it's gonna take a while before he
says to himself, Hey, it ain't working anymore.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
You know, she's not giving me cheese. I better eat this.
That's what they do.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
They learn to manipulate you and you don't even realize
it's happening.

Speaker 8 (09:13):
Jane.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I hope that helps you there. Thank you for your
call today. This pet flipping thing that we've been talking
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found poster or an ad on Craigslist and then claiming

(09:36):
to be the owner, they turn around and sell it
for a quick profit. So I encourage you, especially in
your use with Craigslist, you shouldn't put your animals up
there if you're trying to get rid of them. Now
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Speaker 14 (13:56):
Okay, we have an older approval.

Speaker 13 (13:58):
He's almost sixteen, and it's always been hard to groom.
But as he's getting older, he's getting a little more
temperamental and it just wears him out. And the last
time we took him to a professional groomer, uh, they
started on him and then rejected him because they just could.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Not handle him.

Speaker 13 (14:17):
And I'm afraid of hurting him and everything. So is
there something that we can give him before a grooming
appointment that would maybe calming down to where it would
be easier on him. We're just we're just afraid it's
going to cause him to, you know, have a heart attack.

Speaker 9 (14:35):
You know, or so sure absolutely? Now has you said
he's always been afraid of the groomer?

Speaker 13 (14:40):
Is not really afraid, but he just he's so hyper
and temperamental.

Speaker 9 (14:46):
So he's intolerant of it.

Speaker 13 (14:48):
It's a little a little more difficult, but he's never
been really afraid of him.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Alrighty well, And I definitely see older pats with some
of these behavior patterns. They do get worse, and I
of equated to the you know, they're getting old, they're
getting cranky, and they definitely lose some of the good
behaviors that they've had when they're younger. Now, if he's
already kind of been a little cranky at the groomers,
you're gonna have extra challenges and I there are definitely

(15:14):
things we can try, and a lot of it's going
to be first, you know, going back to the veterinaria
and making sure your pet doesn't have any untreated disease processes,
because things like arthritis, cognitive dis function, which is kind
of like doggy senility, there's other medical problems that if
they're untreated, they can make his ability to cope with

(15:36):
a grooming visit or other stresses can make it harder.
So a peth that's arthritic, you know, isn't going to
want to be touched and they're going to be a
little more unhappy about that. So we want to make
sure that is effectively treated properly. But if I have
an older pet in the double digits, you know, twelve
and above, that I'm looking at having problems at the groomer,

(15:58):
having something done even at home that needs to be
done for their own well being. There are some natural
things I like to start with first, because we also
have some concerns with using tranquilizers or sedatives in an
older pet. They have more problems with heart, kidney, liver,
so we don't want to necessarily drug them up. That's
not the best thing. So for me for an older doggie,

(16:20):
a couple of things I love using dog pheromones, which
are the scent hormones. We can't smell them, but they
can and these can be in sprays and collars in
different formats, and it exerts a natural calming effect to pets.
So that's one thing that I might add into the mix.
The other thing is i'd see your veterinarian about an

(16:41):
amino acid supplement called elthianine, and it's actually amino acid
that they find in green tea if you believe it
or not, and it causes a relaxing effect. So this
is something that we know that helps improve their brain
dopamine levels and steatonin and it actually can make them

(17:02):
more calm and that are able to kind of relax
with normal everyday things. So you can use that along
with a pheromone as a natural way to try to
cope with this if I have to tap into a sedative.
I am not a fan of just the pure tranquilizers
that you'll get at your common veterinary office. I don't

(17:23):
feel they help a lot with dogs that have anxiety problems,
and that especially if they're kind of triggered in these
older pets. So I like staying in the benzodiazepine category,
which is basically in the valuume category, but there's some
that I prefer. El Praslam is probably my favorite for
dogs that have either anxiety problems that we're just looking

(17:45):
to take a little bit of the edge off, and
this has to be through your veterinarian, so you again,
you want to make sure that your pet is a
good candidate for that. And I kind of look at
doing some of those things now. And the good thing
for other listeners out there is it's so important with
your dogs when they're young, is that we condition them
to grooming experiences. So what I recommend people to do,

(18:08):
and I like to get like clippers out and take
the buzzing clipper to a puppy and just let it
kind of touch their body, get them used to some
of those things, handle their feet, get them used to
some of the hair dryer when they're really young, in
a non threatening way. And that's kind of how we
can work up to exposing them so that we hopefully
don't get a dog that's you know, so phobic or

(18:30):
unhappy at being ed. And you know, there are actually
I have a lot of dogs at my clinic that
we have to be the groomers for our pets because
they have aggression problems when they go to the groomer,
and it is very unfortunate that we often, you know,
with those dogs, we have to use heavy sedation or
put them under anesthesia. So it's definitely not in their
best interest if we can get away with.

Speaker 13 (18:50):
The other we didn't know if we maybe tried to
learn to start grooming him ourselves, you know, as far
as giving the haircut.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yeah, well, I mean a little more.

Speaker 9 (19:02):
For some dogs. And you know, it depends if he's
afraid of the clipper, the sound, the handling, or if
he just doesn't want anybody touching him. That's got to
be the thing you got to kind of figure out.
So a dog that doesn't want to be touched in general,
I wouldn't recommend you do it.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Doctor w Like the groomers, you know, they're making money,
they're in a hurry. And if a dog gets nicked
with a clipper one time, you know, and experiences pain,
then they form a bad association. And it becomes very,
very difficult beyond that point because you don't know what's
going on there at the groomer.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
You're not there. You can't see what they're doing.

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Now what I want to talk about today because people
have been bringing this up to me and about brushing
and combing your dogs, and people have a misconception about
if you cut your dog down short, that you don't
have to brush and comb your dog, and that is
the biggest pallas in the world and it's only going
to cause more problems in your household. Basically, pets need
to be brushed and combed automatically, every single pet. And

(24:15):
I don't care who tells you otherwise that their dog
doesn't shed. Every single dog sheds. Every dog on the
planet we shed, and they may not shed at the
degree of some other pets. Like a German shepherd is
going to shed a hell of a lot more than
a be shon. Okay, that's common fact, but that doesn't
mean the beeshon doesn't shed. So what happens is is

(24:37):
what a lot of people will do with these dogs
like beshons, poodles and alls. They cut them down short,
you know, for maintenance. Now, Unfortunately, and I hate to
say this about my peers, a lot of groomers out there.
What they'll do is, you know what, just to alleviate
some time, they don't go through the whole brushing and
combing process. And basically what happens is is when you

(24:57):
cut that dog down, that hair that now wants to
come out, well, it's gonna shed out shorter hair that's
gonna get caught in your comforters and your pillows and
your carpets, and it's.

Speaker 8 (25:08):
Gonna be harder to get out.

Speaker 20 (25:09):
The other thing it does is is because you don't
have the natural process because once you cut that hair short,
see when the coat is a little bit longer, when
the dog is moving about, whether the dog is outside
or you know, rubbing against the furniture or the carpet,
it's pulling out that dead coat. Now unfortunately it's you're
finding in your house. But that process builds healthy, nice

(25:31):
new coat, which not only will give it better color,
will give it a better texture, but also we'll keep
your dog smelling better. That natural process stimulates the skin
so everything works better. So what you want to do
is you want to make sure that you brush your
comba dog. And also it's a great socializing tool, especially
if you have a pet that's a little bit shy.
So you know, the more you brushing comb with, the

(25:53):
more you handle the pet, the better it is. But
the importance of it, I can't stress it enough, is
because it really does make a difference in that pet's
well being, not only look but also how he feels.
It keeps them from scratching as much. So it's a
process that you need to do. And if you only
did it once a week, you know why, it's still
a hell of a lot better than not doing it

(26:13):
at all.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
There you go, Joey Valline, Ladies and Geleman on Animal already.
Let's hit the phones for Joey. We have Woody on
the phones. Hey, Woody, how.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
Are you doing?

Speaker 21 (26:20):
I'm doing great? How are you today?

Speaker 16 (26:22):
Good?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Where are you calling from?

Speaker 21 (26:23):
I'm calling from Western.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Wyoming, Western Wai. Is that where you live?

Speaker 21 (26:28):
Dang? Sure? Is all fifty four of my years so far?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oh wow, that must be quiet and enjoyable and nature like.

Speaker 21 (26:35):
And all that it is At seven thousand feet, you
can't beat it.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I would pass out at seven thousand feet. I get
dizzy going to Denver. Hey, listen, I know you wanted
to talk to Joey. What's going on?

Speaker 21 (26:45):
Hey, I've got a two year old male miniature Schnauzer.
I adopted this dog in January and he's had some
coat problems. He was an outside dog. Even in Wyoming,
people leave these little dogs outside. I brought him man
and all of a sudden, he started his hair on
his back. One of the reasons I bought a Snauzers
they don't shed. Well, I've got one that does, and well,

(27:08):
you know, I've taken her to my vet and lately
I keep him groomed down with I use wall clippers
on a number two and about every week he gets
to where he just starts shedding really bad and easy
fixed Woodie.

Speaker 20 (27:22):
And I got to tell you one thing. Whoever told
you that Schnauzers don't shed, Boy, did they lie to you.
They were a double coated breed, And any double coated
breed actually sheds more than a single coated dog. Okay,
they should have a soft, downy undercoat, and then they
should have a.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
A wiry top coat.

Speaker 20 (27:38):
Now it's funny that you're bringing us up, because basically
this is just what I just spoke about in the
tip that I put out there, especially on a wire
coated dog that has a double coat. What happens is
is you're doing everything correct. The number two is a
perfect length that's about maybe a little bit more of
a little bit less than a half inch long.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
The wall clip is a rate.

Speaker 20 (28:00):
But what you have to do is we got to
stimulate it because what you're doing is you're removing that
top coat and what's happening is is you're building abundance
of undercoat because it's.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Not cutting that.

Speaker 20 (28:10):
So what you have to do is you have to
get that undercoat out as well. Once you get that
undercoat out, it's not going to shed nearly as much.
It's very very controllable to the point where it's tolerable.
So this is what I want you to do. There's
a process called carting. Now carting, all it is is
a deep calming. They make certain tools out there. Actually

(28:32):
the easiest one to find is Ferminator. It's a little
bit pricey, but that's all it's made for is to
deep shed dogs that have short coats. So after you
clip your dog down, what you want to do is
you want to take the ferminated tool and you're going
to go over the coat lightly. And what that's going
to do, that's going to remove all that coat that's
now bothering you. Now, the question I have does the

(28:55):
dog also have dandre of because of this?

Speaker 21 (28:59):
And told me he says he believes it's dry coat.
I'm doing some uh, some medicine on his food every day,
capsule every day, and I bathe him once a week
with some medicated shampoo that is supposed to help help
moisturize his coat.

Speaker 20 (29:18):
Let me ask you a question. Have you noticed any
difference at all since you've been since you've been doing that.

Speaker 21 (29:23):
I do, and it's I've done this now for three weeks,
and about a day or two before his normal birthday,
you'll start seeing it. He rides on my lap everywhere
I go, and uh, I'll start seeing a lot of
shedding on my shirt about a day or two before
it's time for his for his bath.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
I'll tell you what I know.

Speaker 20 (29:43):
It's exactly what I'm thinking is happening when you're bathing
the dog. The bathing process is helping remove that loose undercoat,
but it's not removing it enough. Okay, So what's happening
is it's it's it's in that process that right before
a bath, it's shedding heavily, and then when you bathe
the dog, it's reducing it, but it's not getting it
out enough. So if you can go out and get

(30:05):
that tool ferminator, use that, and you would use it
just like you would use a rake. Basically, you just
you're gonna rake through the coat, not real hard at all,
just enough that you're gonna start to see the undercoat
come up, and you're gonna notice a drastic change in
your dog's color. It's gonna go from from the lighter
color that it is to a little bit darker, okay.

(30:27):
And basically what that's doing, it's pulling out that dead
hair because that dead hair is dulling out the coat
that really that's hidden underneath it. And once you start
seeing that, you're also gonna get beautiful color back in
your dog's coat. Your dog's coat's gonna look a hell
of a lot healthier, and it's gonna grow in thicker,
but it's going to shed a hell of a lot less.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
Try that.

Speaker 20 (30:47):
I almost if I had the place, the bed here,
if I was in Vegas, I'd put all my money
on that.

Speaker 21 (30:52):
Okay, can this be done? While showing this is one
of the few dogs I've ever seen it a little
like jump in the shower with you and doesn't.

Speaker 20 (31:01):
You know what? And without seeing a dog, I don't know.
And this is what I would say. I would say,
you can definitely try it in a shower. And if
you're getting out the undercoat wich, you're gonna know right
away it's gonna you're gonna you're gonna be pulling out here.
And it's only gonna pull out really what needs to
I mean, if you're pulling out anything else, the dog
is gonna let you know.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
Right away that he doesn't like it. So if it's
coming out, absolutely no problem. If it's not, then you'd
want to do a try.

Speaker 21 (31:24):
Okay, have a wonderful weekend, you too.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
They're listening on the western slope of Wyoming backwoods there
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Speaker 8 (31:33):
That sounds nice. Maybe we should go broadcasts from from there.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm thinking something good to Woody's house.

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Speaker 5 (32:43):
Who does.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Animal Radio? We are moments away from Beth stern here
on Animal Radio, and we just got some tweets in
the last few minutes. People definitely recognize who Beth Sterne is.
Maybe I just ran into a bunch of people finally,
But if you want to ask her a question, or
you have an idea for questions, and we should ask
her and call me. She is working with the North

(33:13):
Shore Animal League. By the way, that's her connection with
the animal other than her husband being an animal. And
I'm going to take the high road. I'm not going
to ask her anything about her husband. We'll see, just
because that would be too much of a give me. There,
we have Kan Slobotchikov on the phone with us. I
hope I did I even get your name close?

Speaker 22 (33:31):
That was very good, exactly on.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You are an animal behaviorist and a professor emeritus with
the Biology department of Northern Arizona University, and you're talking
with animals, it appears from what I'm reading, is that correct?

Speaker 22 (33:43):
Well, not exactly. Actually, what I'm doing is I'm decoding
animal language and trying to understand what animals are talking about.
And I'm also writing about animal language in my book
Chasing Doctor Doolou.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
What kind of animals are we talking about?

Speaker 22 (33:58):
Well, I've specialized in working with fairy dogs, where I
have found that fairy dogs have alarm calls that have
words for different predators, such as a word for a coyote,
a word for a dog, a word for a human,
word for a hawk, and within those words they can
describe the size and shape of the individual predator. They

(34:19):
can describe, for example, they coote color of dogs, the
size and shape of dogs. They can describe the color
of clothes that humans are wearing, the size and shape
of humans. So it's a very sophisticated animal language.

Speaker 9 (34:32):
That they have.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Wow, and you can understand their language.

Speaker 22 (34:35):
Well, I can understand it by use of technology. What
we do is we record the calls. We put the
calls into a computer, then measure various aspects of the calls.
Put this into a statistical program that tells us which
parts of the call are relevant to what and which
parts contain information about what kinds of things?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Can you duplicate the language and speak back.

Speaker 22 (34:59):
To We are working on that. Actually we have been
working on that. So what we have been using is
we have with a computer science colleague of mind, we
have developed artificial intelligence programs or techniques that allow us
to record the call, have the computer analyze what the

(35:22):
call means and get back to us, potentially in English,
what the call means. And then we also have the
potential to say something in English, have the computer synthesize
the proper sounds in prairie dog language and play it
back to prairie.

Speaker 23 (35:37):
Dogs as a meaningful sound.

Speaker 22 (35:38):
So we have the potential for doing this kind of
back and forth, the kind of thing. And this is
where I think that down the road, applying the same technology,
in five to ten years, we will be able to
develop perhaps apps on a cell phone that would allow
us to talk to dogs at some basic levels, basic level,

(36:01):
maybe talk to farm animals at some basic level.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Hey, joy, I think this is going to put you
out of business.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Well, it's a good possibility, and that's okay.

Speaker 9 (36:10):
I mean I think we should all talk to our
animals and be able to hear them back.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Well, you know they say that cats never really vocalize
much until they interacted with humans, that they never spoke
to each other, But they speak a lot to us.
And our cat has specific sounds. We've noticed when it
sits at the door, if it wants to go out,
or if it wants food, it has specific cries and
they are different.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, are those universal among cats? Like would one cat
understand what another cat was saying?

Speaker 22 (36:37):
Well, surprisingly, we don't really know very much about cat vocalizations.
We know that cats have at least thirty five different
kinds of vocalizations, and some of them seem to be universal,
Like when a cat sees a bird, it makes a
particular kind of clicking sound. When it sees an insect,
that makes us likely different clicking sound. But we don't

(36:57):
really know all that much about cat language, and we
have only started exploring the world of cats relatively recently.
For example, not that long ago, we thought that cats
were solitary animals who were quite happy to be off
by themselves. And then when people started looking at semi wildcats,

(37:17):
they found that cats were actually very social animals that's
liked to socialize with other cats that they were related to.
And so we are starting to find out much more
about both the social structure and the vocalizations of cats.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Why did you start out with prairie dogs?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Were you guys sitting around and you're like, well, which
animal are we going to try to communicate with first?

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Why did you pick prairie dogs?

Speaker 22 (37:39):
I picked prairie dogs because it was a convenient thing
to study. I initially started studying beetles that mimiced other
beetles that had defensive secretions, and along the way I
became allergic to these beetles and I had to work
on some kind of research project for my job. So
there were lots of prairie dogs around, and at that time,

(38:01):
I thought, we don't really know that much about the
social system of prairie dogs, so let's work on that.
And then I noticed that they had alarm calls, and
I realized, we don't know very much about the alarm calls.
So we just kept dissecting, doing more and more sophisticated
experiments and dissecting to see if we can find the
limits of the alarm calls. And we still haven't really

(38:21):
found the limits of the alarm calls. It's probably even
more sophisticated than I made it out to be.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I think you're onto something. I always thought that animals
can talk in English, by the way, they just opt
not to because the.

Speaker 22 (38:36):
Dogs haven't spoken to us in English yet.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Okay, the website where people can learn more.

Speaker 22 (38:42):
They can go to the website for the book Chasingdoctor
Doolitile dot com and there they can find out both
about my book and links to me.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Okay, well, Con, we appreciate you spending time with us
and all the work that you're doing. Con.

Speaker 10 (38:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
That's a fascinating waste of a govern McGr you just
say that.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Wait till ten years and you can talk to your dog.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I'll find out I won't like what he has to say.
I'll find out he's trying to kill me.

Speaker 24 (39:08):
Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Be funny to you know, if dogs could talk and
you had a stand up comedian dog.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Hey, three cats going to a bar. There was a Siamese,
a Persian and tabby joy.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Do our animals ever saying jokes to each other? Do
they have a sense of humor?

Speaker 19 (39:24):
They do have a sense of humor, although it's not
typically like our sense of humor because they're more literal.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Sure, you know a dog will start a joke by
going yes, so I was eating poop?

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Speaker 1 (40:45):
Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio
featuring your dream team veterinarian doctor Debbie White and groomer
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Speaker 2 (40:58):
On today's show, Betho or beth Ster, We're going to
find out what she likes to be called. She'll be
joining us, of course, not only the wife of the
King of All Media, but she also works with the
North Shore Animal League and I understand she's rescuing many
many animals at her house, so we'll find out what
that's all about. In just a couple of minutes right
here on Animal Radio. What are you up to? You
look like you're pondering something, Stacy.

Speaker 17 (41:19):
Okay, here's one for you. What is Kim Kardashian and
a giant panda have in common?

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Anyone guess maybe they both gave birth. I don't know.

Speaker 17 (41:29):
I'll tell you coming up on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I don't believe people talk about her. I don't understand it.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
I know who is she. I mean, I know who
she is, But but.

Speaker 8 (41:40):
What does she do?

Speaker 5 (41:41):
That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
What does she do? You know?

Speaker 4 (41:44):
She shocks?

Speaker 5 (41:45):
That's what I want.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
I'm trying to understand that.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
She's like the Cato calin, just at the right place,
at the right time.

Speaker 8 (41:51):
You know what. I just wanted to say something.

Speaker 20 (41:52):
You said Howard was the king of all media, so
that must be This must mean that you are a
king of dog media.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I am the king of dog media. Yes, and we'll
be talking to the Queen of all media, because that
would be obviously she wouldn't she be the queen.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
No, she would be the first lady.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
How she's be your first lady?

Speaker 4 (42:07):
There's probably another woman who is a queen immediate.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Well, of course Martha Stewart or Oprah.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
See that's what I mean. So she's just the first lady.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Would wouldn't Queen be Howard's first lady, you know, the
one that went through it all with him?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
You would think, Oh, okay, you know I'm.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Gonna be talking about how dumb I am. How do
you I'm such an idiot. I swear to God I
am such an idiot.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Oh let us talk about it, please.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Well you know what I just did for the second
time this week? What what you would think?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
You would think that I would be able to operate
a coffee maker?

Speaker 5 (42:35):
You would think you would think that I.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Could make coffee, you know, And for the second time
this week, I have failed to put the little lid on.
We got a busted one, so it's got the lid detaches.
You know, the little lid that's on top of the
coffee maker that has the little bubble that tells the
thing above it to let the water through. I forget
to put that on twice this week, so I got
coffee grounds and water and crap all over the place.

Speaker 8 (42:55):
It's so matter. What's what hell today? I mean, what's
wrong with You're mad?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
There's absolutely there's.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
Something going on here, and I don't give you that.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Come on, it's that the whole clone thing is is
really I've been off base since last week with the
whole clone thing. Today we're going to be talking to
the lady who's founded the Center for Pet Safety and
she's tested all of the UH seats and restraint systems
for cars for your dogs and she says all of
them fail one d fail. So we're going to talk

(43:23):
to her in just a few minutes right here on
Animal Radio. Animal Radio, we do.

Speaker 16 (43:26):
Fizz is this hell.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
You're a genius. I tell you, you're a friggin genius.
Where the hell are you?

Speaker 25 (43:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Okay, I get it. Yesterday you weren't so interested in
talking with me. Now you want to know.

Speaker 8 (43:37):
Where I am.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Listen up. Yesterday I went to get my paycheck. They
said I already picked it up. So what's your point.
You didn't come home last night? Yeah, I was busy
spending your paycheck. This is a nightmare. You better come
home tonight. I'm gonna kick a living crap out of you. Ooh,
I'm shaky, gotta go, buddy, Wait wait, wait, don't go. Annios.
Hell hell see. That's why I'm a little off.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
How many are there? How many Hells are there?

Speaker 4 (44:03):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, there might be six, there might be a dozen.
It's a it's a cloning experiment out of control, and it's.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
How can you tell them apart?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
They're like rabbits, they really are. So I encourage you
to spay new to your animals and don't clone yourself.
Just two tips of advice from the old hellmeister.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
We should have town.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah, okay, what if the hol clones go out and
have little hal babies?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Okay, enough already. Please want to think about calls for
doctor Debbie, dog trainer Allen Cable, dogfather, Joey Vallaneyan, animal communicator,
Joey Turner. Only please right now? Hey, William, how you doing?

Speaker 10 (44:34):
I'm fine? How are you good?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Where are you calling from today?

Speaker 10 (44:38):
I'm over here and Wind's or New York Wind's or
New York.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
What's up? What's going on with your animals?

Speaker 10 (44:44):
Well? I got a she's a cross red and black
lamp and bagel and I was having a problem with
with fleas, which we got to care. We got that
all to her. Okay, after we were care of that,
she kept having a problem with her boot ditching and
also two spots on her belly. M well, I use

(45:05):
a one day, ik you call for my for my stomach,
you know, to keep my stomach from chafing. Uh. So
it's a powder and I was using on my stomach
one day and she's sat right there by me, and
she stood up and turned her back to me, you know,
her butt to me. And I had it on my
hand and I rubbed it that or her button on
her base of her tail. She didn't itch all day.

Speaker 9 (45:29):
Okay, So what kind of know what's this medicine?

Speaker 16 (45:32):
What is it?

Speaker 10 (45:33):
It's uh oh, jock hits powder like gold bond. I
don't know what the brand is on it, but it's
a jock. It's powder.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (45:43):
So the next day, the next day, I rubbed it
also on her belly and her button. She didn't hitch
all day anywhere. I don't know. Uh, it doesn't bother.
You know, she has no reaction to it. She doesn't
try to lick it or anything like that.

Speaker 9 (46:03):
Okay, And you know this is this is kind of
a first for me or William Jackey. Itch is kind
of out of my realm of expertise, But what what
I do think of is what what I hear about
this and how that might be helping her symptomatically. Jack
itch and a lot of skin infections and dogs can

(46:24):
be caused by fungal infection by yeast. So I don't
know that that's what you got, but but the ingredients
in many types of jockey itch medications are miconaisol, and
that is a medicine that we do use for dogs
that have yeast infections. As far as you know, that's
something I like to preferbly diagnose. I mean, it certainly

(46:45):
sounds you know in your experience that that helped and
that may have decreased the itch, So that sounds wonderful.
But I'm not advocating everyone to take jacketche powder and
put it on their dog bodies, partly because there's a
lot of other things and dogs can trigger the yeast infections.
And you mentioned that you had a flea infestation, so
she probably had some red itchy skin to begin with.

(47:07):
And a yeast on dog skin is really common, but
it doesn't get into their skin, it doesn't take hold
unless they've got kind of a red itchy a braided
skin surface. So in those situations. Yeah, that may be
why she had potentially a yeast infection and why that
medicine helped her. So if you have more ongoing issues

(47:28):
with this, my recommendation would be maybe stay away from
the powder only, because that's a little bit harder control
where we're putting that. There are some wonderful shampoos you
can use for dogs. We can do all over body treatment,
and that's kind of makes it a little bit more.
I think it's kind of reasonable to treat a whole
pet than to try to splash powder or put some

(47:48):
ointments on them. But hey, I can't sneeze at success.
And if that helped her, I'm happy for you.

Speaker 10 (47:56):
I use it for myself because I have an over
hanging problem, you know, like my belly overhangsbel.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Okay, well, can I just say I was just gonna
say the jocktch powder, my friend. You're right, it's in
a magic thing, you know, your computer when it says
you pop up in a page and it says done
but with errors. Well, I was sitting next to with
some jocktch powder and dumped it in the keyboard and
let me tell you, it fixed the problem.

Speaker 16 (48:20):
And the thing went dark.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It was amazing, immediately amazing stuff.

Speaker 10 (48:24):
Well, you would enjoy this. This dog though, she really
did it because when I tell her, I say, I'm
on the loose, time to take a shower, she walks
right and sits down in the shower and waits for
me to come in.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
There's beautiful.

Speaker 10 (48:38):
Oh she's a real good dog. But this happened. And
I said, I gotta let you folks know because I
listened to you every weekend, you know, our Next Day radio.

Speaker 9 (48:46):
Awesome. We appreciate it, William, And get that baby a
scratch on her head for us, and hopefully she's not
scratching anymore. With a magic powder on hand there.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I learned so much from this show, maybe more than
I need to know.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
We should carry a houch of jocktch powder and whenever
we see somebody itching in public, we sprinkle it on them,
like you know, the good Fairy.

Speaker 9 (49:05):
I'm frightened. I'm really frightened. Now what I'm going to
see in my exam rooms. People are going to hear
the show and they're gonna say, Doc, can you just
take a look at this for me? And I'm gonna
be like no.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
No, by stopping it now, it's just such a funny product,
you know, jock ittch powder.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Hi, Liz, Hi, you wanted to talk to doctor Debbie.

Speaker 20 (49:22):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (49:23):
Well, Hi, what can I do for you?

Speaker 24 (49:25):
Well?

Speaker 14 (49:25):
I have a term shepherd who has dedrit of myopathy,
and people keep telling me when it's time for her
to be put to sleep. She's gonna let me know
because she's still acting like a puppy. She's still acting
like she's the boss. She's eating. She just falls a lot,
like she'll fall down my steps. Oh dear, we have

(49:48):
a by level, so we have no step. I mean,
we have no way to get in and out of
the house besides going up and down the steps. I
mean you kind of like fall. She just saves this
bamby thing down the steps.

Speaker 9 (49:58):
Okay, we're her back feet kind of kind of collapse
under her. She's not falling down and tumbling down large
amounts of stairs. That's what I was concerned about.

Speaker 14 (50:05):
No, no, okay, My dilemma is when should I put
her asleep?

Speaker 9 (50:10):
Yeah. The biggest problem with degenerate of myelopathy, which basically
this condition is a progressive deterioration of the coding along
the spinal cord, so When that happens, dogs lose their
function to their back legs. They can get wobbly kind
of crossing over with the back feet. They'll even scuffle
their back feet and wear their toniails down, so that
progresses to the point where they lose more and more

(50:32):
control with the back legs that eventually can progress up
to the front legs as well. The good thing is
that it's not painful other than the secondary things that
they do to themselves, dragging the top surfaces of the feet,
getting pressure sores, things like that that we have to
deal with. So that tends to be the biggest part

(50:52):
of kind of managing these babies. Now, I will tell
you that one great thing in managing dogs with each
other of mylopathy is the benefit of physical therapy. Now,
there is no cure for this condition, but we know
that physical therapy can help give us more meaningful time
and it keeps them more ambulatory, keeps them moving on
those limbs in a meaningful way for a longer period

(51:14):
of time. And there are some studies that have looked
at this and dogs and intense physical therapy can survive
periods of time over two hundred and fifty five days
of good quality time. But your question basically, how do
you know and will she tell you? Gosh, in all
my years, I don't feel that with this condition the
dogs really tell us, meaning that they accept that they're

(51:35):
at that point they're not any right.

Speaker 14 (51:37):
It seems to be a little depressed, but not enough
that she still hasn't boss and I have two other
dogs too, still blotching them around and you know what
I mean.

Speaker 9 (51:46):
Yeah, And that's the thing. It is a disability. So
it becomes more when we can't get up to do
the bathroom needs, when we have secondary infections or pressure
sores or things that are complicating their life. So no,
I don't feel that she's going to tell you when
it's time. This is different than hip displacia hip displacure
that pets are in a lot of discomfort. They have

(52:07):
kind of similar signs, but they're in a lot of pain.
So she's not going to be in that category. So
as her caretaker, you are going to need to watch
out for that when her quality of life getting around
is limited, or when she is at a point where
she may jeopardize her own safety falling downstairs, you know,
getting into situations she cannot get out of that is

(52:28):
where that the quality of life really becomes down. And
I can tell you we do this all the time
talking about you know, is it time someone who knows
your pet's physical status at that moment can also help
you greatly with this decision.

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If you are out and about traveling with your animal,
you probably have a restraint system that you're using in
your car, or you may have one that, like I said,
you have a one where lady, we'll little sits in
a little booster seat.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Yeah, and then it has a little connector so I
could put her harness on and connect it to her
so she can't jump out.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Do you think it's very safe?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
If you were an accident, you think that dog would
be okay?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
I'd like to think so, yes, okay, isn't she.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Well maybe not. According to a brand new canine automotive
restraint crash worthiness test done by the founder of the
Center of the Pet Safety Lisa Wolco, who's joining us,
there's a one hundred percent failure.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Waight right, one hundred percent. There's not one out there that.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Well, well, let's find out. Hi, lindsay, how are you doing?

Speaker 25 (54:47):
How are you very good?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Tell us about your test and your study.

Speaker 25 (54:50):
We did a pilot study where we sampled twelve different
harnesses tested the four strongest, the ones that we deemed
based on how the consumer would see them. We had
bert engineering and survivability experts look at these products to
help us select those and from those tested, we had
a one hundred percent failure rate of those harnesses that
were tested to provide protection to either the pet or

(55:11):
the consumer if a crash occurred.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Now, there's been a lot of advances let us say
there have.

Speaker 25 (55:16):
Been Yeah, so Suparu actually they found value in the
work we were doing and they have stepped up this
year and we are working right now on a harnessed study.
It's more robust than that. We're looking across multiple sizes,
across multiple brands, and for this we were very selective
and the products we chose. So we're looking solely at

(55:36):
those products that are claiming testing, crash testing and crash protection.
And the good news for pet parents is that we
are seeing better protection that's being afforded.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
But you have to be.

Speaker 25 (55:47):
Very discerning on how you shop for those products.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Now, are these restraint systems that you're seeing that are
doing okay? Are they seat belts? Are they like car seats?
What are they exactly?

Speaker 21 (56:00):
Well?

Speaker 25 (56:00):
Right, we categorize the products so right now, what we
are focusing on right now is just the harness, the
harnesses themselves. We know that many of the other products
out there, the add on a device is like unfortunately,
the booster seats and like the zip line style products
and extension tethers that you buy after market if you will,

(56:22):
don't have to go through testing. Many manufacturers do not
test those products at all.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
So I'm gathering that Subaru is trying to develop a
seat that's going to be safe.

Speaker 7 (56:31):
No.

Speaker 25 (56:31):
I think what they want to do is they just
want to help give information to their constituency, to those
people that travel with their pets. They value the safety
of not only their consumer but also the pets to
travel with their family. And I think it's it's it's
solely that at this point in time.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Now, how do you test these? Do you use real
dogs or are there dog crash dummies.

Speaker 25 (56:54):
I have developed? Actually, our team has worked together very
very hard over the past few years. We have our
second phase, our second round of crash test dogs that
we have developed, and I have to tell you, these
guys are really tough. They are heavily engineered. We worked
with an engineer who works with NASA to help us
kind of formulate how we're going to put them together.

(57:16):
And we have currently three different.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
Sizes that we use.

Speaker 25 (57:21):
We have a twenty five and we also have an
alternate twenty pounds, forty five and a seventy five pound
that we're using for this particular study. So, and we
also have other dogs that we use for preliminary testing.
And we have actually put a licensing agreement out there
so manufacturers can actually license the use of these dogs

(57:41):
to test their own products.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I was a crash test dummy once.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Yeah we can tell yes, we can, Yeah we can.
You know what, I watched these videos and it actually
looked like some of these restraints systems would actually cause
more harm than had the dog not been restrained at all.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
Is that true?

Speaker 25 (57:57):
No, you want them use a restraint. We want consumers
and pet parents to use these products right now. Manufacturers
just don't. They don't have to test. None of these
products have to meet any standards. There are no standards
that exist. So that's what we're trying to do is
give consumers the confidence in the products that they're currently lacking.
But no, you absolutely should use a restraint.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
So you're not saying just because they don't work, that
we shouldn't use them anymore.

Speaker 25 (58:22):
Well, again, you know, we're testing them to an extreme
crash condition. They's for thirty mile an hour. You know,
these products can potentially help protect your pet from shortstops
and hopefully no one gets in that type of collision.
But that's why we have guidance on our website right
now on our FACK page on how to guide consumers

(58:44):
until we're done with the study, how to find those
crash tests of harnesses, how to ask those questions as
a manufacturers on the type of testing that they've done
so that you have some assurance that the products are
going to hold up a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
What is that with website?

Speaker 25 (58:58):
It's a Center for Pets Safe dot org. And you
want to go to our back page.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I'm going to put a link from Animal radio dot
com right to the fact page. So if you're driving
along right now you want to see what Lindsay's talking about,
head on over to Animal Radio and click the link
to the Center for Pet Safety. And you know what,
I think it's kind of cool what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 25 (59:17):
We hope we hope people find value in it. We
are currently working to fund a containment study, so we
will look at greates carriers and barriers, and we're also
looking to fund a study on animal flotation device.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Well, let's stay in touch.

Speaker 25 (59:31):
I would love to thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
There you go, Lindsay Wonko, she's the founder of the
Center for Pet Safety, joining us here on Animal Radio.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
And that it was real cool about that was that
Subaru was really interested that they care about, you know,
their consumers.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
They know how many people have pets.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
That's just really cool though, that, you know, that makes
me want to buy a car.

Speaker 9 (59:49):
From them, not me, I don't like supervis.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Yeah, it makes well.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
When a company cares about the people they're selling to,
that makes me want to buy their product.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
You have a hummer, don't you, Doc?

Speaker 9 (59:58):
No, I don't have a hummer. That's like a a
gas hogh.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
That's the nickname.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Yes for her husband.

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Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yeah, I know I have it all this fun. Well,
I'm sorry. You gotta get this show going. I know
that's my job.

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Speaker 11 (01:00:45):
This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 17 (01:00:48):
I'm Stacey Cohen, four Animal Radio. A giant panda is
the happy mom of twins.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Incredible to see the the interest that pops up, you know,
with just a giant pand of birth.

Speaker 16 (01:00:58):
Let alone twins dot com.

Speaker 17 (01:01:00):
Dwight Lawson he was Zou Atlanta, he said. Lun Lun,
who's a fifteen year old pandan loan from China, gave
birth to the twins at the Zoo. The zoo says
the tiny babies are the first giant panda twins to
be born in the US since nineteen eighty seven. Lun
Lun was reportedly to be in labor for barely ninety minutes.
That compares with thirty six hours for her first delivery

(01:01:20):
in two thousand and six. Acclaim European chef David Fower
isn't worried about his diners finding a bug in their meals.
In fact, he started intentionally adding a variety of creepy
crawleys to the dishes that he serves at his restaurant
in Nice, France. Among the new specialties are a dessert
with crickets, which he likes for their popcorn flavor, and

(01:01:41):
a cod dish with mealworms, which he claims adds a
nice nutty tone to the fish. He got this idea
for his alternative foods menu while he was traveling to
countries where citizens use insects in their everyday diets. He
says the biggest obstacle in his quest to make his
own cooking more adventurous was finding a reliable, low supplier
of edible insects. You know, I don't know. Why can't

(01:02:04):
you just try a new sauce? Why do you have
to eat bugs? He since solved that problem with the
help of a nearby company it raises their insects on
organic vegetables. Nice Scientists have discovered, just like humans, chimps
and orangutanks can apparently remember things that happened years ago
in their lives. The ability to remember events from the
remote past has been considered a defining feature of human nature.

(01:02:27):
Said this comparative psychologist Jemma Martin ortist. Now she and
her colleagues have found that chimps and orangutanks can also
recall distant memories. In experiments with fifteen chimps and four orangutangs,
the scientists tested whether the animals could remember events they
experienced years ago. Well three years prior to this, they
had watched researchers hide tools that the chimpanzees and orangutanks

(01:02:51):
needed to grab rewards that were otherwise out of their reach.
Well as the apes looked on. The researchers repeated hiding
the tools a total of four times. In the new experiments,
the scientists had the apes carry out the exact same
tasks in the same room with the same experimenters. Just
one exception, all the apes tested recalled where the tools
were hidden, and they reached their reward. This is the

(01:03:14):
first study showing that chimps and orangu tangs remember personal
past events. I guess elephants aren't the only ones who
never forget. I'm Stacy Cohen. Get more animal breaking news
at animal radio dot com.

Speaker 19 (01:03:26):
This has been an Animal Radio News update get more
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Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Portions of today's show are a repeat from an earlier broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
You're listening to Animal Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Here's Alan Judy.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Every once in a while we love to feature some
upstanding people in the industry. Today we're featuring Beth Stern. Hi, Bath,
how are you doing?

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
You are doing so many things. You're keeping pretty darn busy,
aren't you.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Oh my goodness. Right now, I'm fostering a litter of
four kittens and a mama cat and her three kit
three kittens, So I'm busy being a kitten foster parent
this summer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Does that all happen at your house?

Speaker 14 (01:04:06):
There?

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
It does?

Speaker 14 (01:04:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
Our houses, well, we have four rescued cats from the
North Shore Animal League that we've accumulated over the last
five years, So four cats in five years, and we've
always rescued adult cats, so they fill our house with
so much love. But we decided, well, just in light
of kitten season and these summer months, every shelter is
so overpopulated with cats right now that I decided to

(01:04:30):
take a friend from North mir Animal League. We went
into a local municipal shelter and grabbed a litter of kittens,
and my husband, Howard Howard Stern and I fostered them
and it was so rewarding. He mentioned it on his
radio show. We got over one hundred applications for from
wonderful people that wanted to adopt, and I reviewed these

(01:04:51):
people and screened them with north randmal League. We found
six kittens wonderful homes. So I decided. When I delivered
the kittens to the new family, I decided, right then
and there, let's grab another litter. And then on top
of that, I grabbed this mama cat and her babies.
So we've been so busy, but it's been so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Well, I got to ask you this question. I don't
picture Howard, and I promise myself I wasn't going to
ask you anything about Howard, but I don't please.

Speaker 7 (01:05:15):
He's my favorite thing to talk about other than animals.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
I don't expect him to be like a.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
Cat guy, you know, Oh my goodness, he is. He's
right there with me. I mean, I do the hard work.
I'm cleaning the litter boxes one hundred times a day.
It's amazing how often kittens poop, But he's right there.
He photographs them. He names them. He actually cried like
a baby the other day when we when I hand
it off, when he had to say goodbye, when the
day that I had to hand off the first litter

(01:05:41):
to their new families. He's really incredible with them and
fell in love with them as quickly as I did.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Now, do you consider yourself a cat person or a
dog person?

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
I'm equal opportunity. Growing up my family, we always had
rescued animals, I mean guinea pigs, we had little chickens,
We always had two cats, and we always had a
dog in our household. So I don't love more one
more than the other. I just I love all animals
and Ray. Today is actually a really sad day. It's
one year since our beloved Bianca, our bulldog, passed away,

(01:06:14):
So it's a little bit of an emotional day for me,
and I'm really happy to have these kittens to fill
all my attention.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Well, let's dedicate that today's show to that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Okay, I love that.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
I love that. That makes me really happy. Thank you.

Speaker 20 (01:06:25):
How was your transition at home, because listen, I grew
up in New Jersey, so I was a big Howard fan,
and I know before we met you he didn't really
have pats until you guys got you bulldogs, So how was.

Speaker 8 (01:06:35):
That whole true?

Speaker 7 (01:06:36):
He was a black lab named Java, and she recently
passed away. We were very close with her and his kids,
and his ended up living with his children on Long Island.
And he also has had a cat that passed away
as well, so he did have cats with his children
a Long Island before he met me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
You know, we all spoil our animals. What do you
do to spoil your animals?

Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
What kind of Oh my god? Because we have these
four cats and our one cat, our one cat, Leon Bear,
is twenty two pounds and he sleeps in the bed
with Howard and me, and I have to say he
takes up more space than I do. And I think
all pet lovers and people that have pets can relate.
And there are so many nights where I have the
worst night's sleep because Leon Bear is comfortable and I'm

(01:07:21):
on the edge of the bed. And I always put
my pets comfort first, and I think all of us
can relate to that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Why is it that the cats sleep sideways? You know,
they don't sleep length wise and never.

Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
Never sideways, But yet his head manages to be on
my pillow, so imagine that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
So how many animals are in the bed at one
time at night, would you say?

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
Well, besides how we usually have Leon, Bear, and Walter
and Apple sleeping on the bed with us. So that's three.
And Charlie Boy. He's really fat. He's our most recent
rescue and he came to us fat and we're working
on having him loose some weight. He's another rescue that
we adopted from Norse Random League and he can't jump,
so he's the He's on the floor beside the bed.
So sans your question, three cats in bed with us

(01:08:01):
at night.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
See, I think I'm looking at this picture of Charlie
Boy right now. I'll hold it up to the microphone
so listeners can see. He is big.

Speaker 8 (01:08:08):
He is.

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
He's a big boy. He's he's eighteen pounds, but not
as big as Leon, so he's more. I mean, he's
definitely fat as opposed to Leon's just a big guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
We just got this email from a listener who's complaining
because her cat is upsetting her boyfriend when they make love.
Apparently the cat. She allows the cat to be in
the room right there and it ruins the mood.

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
Apparently for well, we tend to remove the cats from
the bedroom when we have that time together and then
as it's over, but we're a mouse to cut all
the doors are opened again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
They don't go scratching at the doors and all.

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
Oh yeah, Charlie just mews and then Leon bashes into
the door. So you know, you just have to deal
with it. Yeah, you just them, You just ignore him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
The television show the what was it? Nat Geo's Spoiled
Rotten Pets? Are you still doing that?

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
You know what? It was only supposed to be one season,
but I loved doing it so much. I was secretly
hoping that it was that it was going to go
for another season, but it ran its course and I'm
still going to be doing some things for Natzio Wild.
I love that network, really proud to have been on it,
and hoping to do more work with them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
What kind of spoiled animals did you find on that show?

Speaker 7 (01:09:16):
Oh my goodness. There were a pair of pigs, Wilma
and Pebbles, that lived inside with the couple. Side with
the couple. They were pot bellied pigs. They slept in
bed with the couple. They were completely housebroken. It was
they were just really remarkable. I mean I never had
spent time with pigs before, but I ended up taking
the pigs for a day because the couple had never
spent a night on a date without the without being

(01:09:39):
with the pigs. So I sent them on a romantic date.
I took the girls to this pig spa in Pennsylvania
and I gave them facials, like exfoliated their piggy skin.
I gave them massages. It was such a fun day
for me.

Speaker 9 (01:09:53):
And there was actually a pig spa out there.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
It was actually a pig sanctuary where a lot of people,
you know, a lot of people see these cute little
teacup pigs and think they're going to stay little. And
pigs don't stay little if you feed them. So there
are a lot of pigs that end up in rescues.
And there's this beautiful sanctuary in Pennsylvania that acts as
a place that where these pigs can live and also

(01:10:17):
is a piggy spa for people that have pigs for
them to spend the day there. It's very cute.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Well we're almost out of time here, but I want
you to tell listeners about Norse sh Or Animal League
and how they can help out.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Oh my gosh, I'm so proud. I've been the spokesperson
a volunteer with the Norse Tor Animal leag America for
ten years now and they're the largest no kill adoption
organization in the world. The bottom line is my mission
is just to spread the word to adopt from your
local shelter. Buying from pet stores is just facilitating this horrible,
wretched cycle that I'm of puppy mills, which I'm sure

(01:10:49):
you guys touched base on a gazillion time. And when
you're adopting from a shelter, you're saving two lives, the
one that you're adopting, and you're opening up space for
someone else to come in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
All doing good work, both of you and North Shore
Animal Legal put links over at Animal radio dot com.
Beth Stern, thank you. Do you like Betho or Beth Stern?
We couldn't figure that out there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Well, Well, my.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
Husband and I just it was my birthday the other
night and we had this exact conversation. He took me
out romantic dinner and he said, what's what this Betho
is still going on. It's been five years, So I
am officially saying that I no longer want to be
referred to as BETHO. I am Beth Stern.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Here you go, Beth Stern on Animal Radio. I appreciate
you taking time to visit with us today.

Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
Thank you so much. You guys are great. I really
appreciate it.

Speaker 17 (01:11:33):
This is Glenn Close on Animal Radio.

Speaker 25 (01:11:36):
And remember how very very important it is to say
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Can you come and pick up my car and give
me that tax deduction I've heard all about.

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days or less.

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Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
You can listen to any of the past Animal Radio shows.
Don't even ask your questions from the Animal Radio app
for iPhone and Android. Download it now. It is a
free download. And we go to Christy. Hey, Christy, Hi,
where are you today?

Speaker 23 (01:12:27):
I am shopping for countertops for our new bathroom.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Oh congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
So what's going on.

Speaker 10 (01:12:35):
Well, we have, of.

Speaker 23 (01:12:37):
Course, as everybody thinks, so the world's most adorable labradoodle.

Speaker 14 (01:12:43):
But he does fall short.

Speaker 23 (01:12:44):
In the coming when he's called Arena, And I think
we trained him so hard when he was young that
he stopped coming unless you give him food.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
He doesn't come unless you actually have a treat.

Speaker 23 (01:12:59):
Yes, I mean everything else is just amazing, but it's
scarless because we're buying a new home and it's a
new area and it's not safe for him, and he'll
and just the other day darted out into the streets
really scary.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
That is very scary, you know. First of all, I
just want to say thank you for caring enough about
your dog to actually look for help. We could probably
spend a whole show talking about teaching your dog how
to come. So let's talk about what not to do first,
and think about how dogs think. First of all, you
should never call your dog to do something that your

(01:13:35):
dog doesn't enjoy, like giving her a bath, or you know,
ignoring her when she comes, or maybe you know, taking
her and putting her in her create if she doesn't
like being in there. Anything she doesn't like you should
never call her when you're going to do that, because
that will teach her that when she comes to you,
something unpleasant is going to happen. So you always want
to do the exact opposite and try never to get

(01:13:57):
frustrated when your dog doesn't come to you. Whenever you
dog comes to you, it's like a parade, it's like
a celebration.

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
It's like good dog, and there are little games.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Are there a lot of people in your family, Well,
we have a twelve year.

Speaker 23 (01:14:09):
Old daughter and a fourteen year old boy, so I
think my dog is beautifully trained. It's just a family
that doesn't have a clue.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Yeah, Well, it's tough when people are inconsistent.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
It's tough, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Another thing to avoid doing is when you call your dog,
don't do it repeatedly. Just call your dog one time
and then try a second time, more firm, and if
your dog ignores you, then pretty much all you can
do is walk up and try to get the dog.
If the dog runs away, don't chase him, try running
the opposite direction, and if that doesn't work, just ignore
your dog. Because when you call a dog and a

(01:14:44):
dog doesn't come, over and over and over, you're teaching
the dog that basically not to respond when you call her.
Another thing you have to remember is to set your
dog and yourself up for success. So if you call
your dog when your dog is doing something really interesting,
playing with another dog or running to greet somebody, or

(01:15:05):
maybe there's pizza being heaten, you know, and your dog's
chasing after that, whatever a dog is interested in. Whenever
a dog is interested in something going on, you're setting
yourself up for failure when you call your dog because
your dog is not gonna pay attention.

Speaker 8 (01:15:19):
Most won't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
And another thing to remember is there's no such thing
as one hundred percent guarantee that your dog will come,
no matter what dog it is, because dogs are not
machines and they're unpredictable, so they don't always come when
you call them. So there are little things you can
do to teach your dog to come to you and
to respect you. There are games I like to play,
but it all starts on a leash.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
The more time your dog spends on a leash with you,
the better, and the more calm your dog is when
you teach your dog things, the better. So the time
not to attempt to teach your dog something is when
your dog is excited and jumping and running and playing.
The time to teach your dog something and to give
your dog affection when your dog is calm, just laying there.

(01:16:02):
The more affection you give your dog when your dog
is calm, the more calm your dog is going to
learn to be over time. So you pay no attention
to your dog when your dog is jumping around excited,
and you give your dog lots of attention when your
dog is being mellow and calm.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 21 (01:16:18):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Dogs love structure and routine, So every single day at
the same time, if you could spend ten to fifteen
minutes with your dog teaching your dog to come, you
will see amazing results.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
And the best way to do that is to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Put your dog in a quiet room with no people,
like the garage, for about ten minutes. Then go get
your dog, and if the dog starts jumping around when
you come to get your dog, turn around, walk away
and close the door and do it over and over.
Because your dog's ten months old, did you say, yeah,
do it over and over again until your dog just
sits there and is calm.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Then put the collar on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
If the dog starts jumping around again, just put your
hands up in the air and stand there, look straight ahead,
don't move until your dog gets calm again. Eventually you're
gonna you're gonna take your dog outside into the yard
to go to the bathroom. And after your dog goes
to the bathroom, you just say good dog, and you're
gonna have a ten foot leash, and you're basically just
gonna let your dog do his thing. You're gonna sit

(01:17:13):
in a chair or you're gonna stand there and you're
gonna give the cum command, you know, come give him
a gentle tug on the leash, and if he doesn't
come to you, you're just gonna reel him in like
a fish. And when he gets near you, you're gonna go,
good dog. And you might have to do this for
about a week, it might be it might have to
do it for long enough. Ten foot ten foot is good,
sixteen feet something like that, And you're pretty much gonna

(01:17:35):
stand there like a statue and you're gonna give your
dog the cum command once or twice and then reel
him in like a fish. But when he gets to you,
you're gonna be good. Even if you have to kind
of drag him. You're gonna be like good dog, you know,
no treat though, just a pet, and then just turn
around and pay no attention to him, let him do
his own thing. I think you're you're a smart lady,

(01:17:56):
and I think you can do it. Just remember, your
dog's not a person. He's not a human. They're not
motivated like people are, and they don't have people emotions.
If you pay attention to his body language, how he moves,
how he looks at you, Whenever your dog is staring
at you for long periods of time, he's looking for leadership.

Speaker 23 (01:18:14):
Okay, so when he comes to it, he also doesn't
come in the house. He'll just stand there, but come on,
come on, and he just stands there and looks at us.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Think of it from your dog's point of view. Your
dog has mastered manipulating you in that way. He's learned
that when he see when he stands at the door,
you react and give him attention.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Is that not truect?

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Okay, so now when your dog stands at the door,
what are you going to do next time?

Speaker 14 (01:18:38):
Walk away?

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Well, that's all we have time for today. Thank you
so much for joining us, and do not forget that.
The Animal Radio app your answer. It's a free download
for iPhone and Android. You could listen to the show anytime,
even ask your questions right from the Animal Radio App.
I have it on my phone. Do you have it
your own?

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
I do have it on mine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
You don't even have a smartphone in when? Do you?

Speaker 9 (01:18:57):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:18:57):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
I don't believe in smart things.

Speaker 10 (01:19:00):
This is able Animal Radio Network.

Speaker 16 (01:19:10):
Hmm.

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