How A Rooster Made Me A Family Man

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Celebrating our connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio.
Here are your hosts, cal Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, actually, Judy's screening your cults. She tried to figure
out who you want to talk to? Is it Doctor Debbie,
doc Trainer, Allen Cables, dogfather, Joey Volani, animal communicator, Joey Turner,
or perhaps Ladybug the studio stunt dog. Seems to be
a lot of calls for Ladybug today. Also on the way,
Joey Volani has tips for grooming your cat. Yes, apparently
your cat needs to be groomed.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Good luck.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
He says he charges more for grooming cats.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
For hazard pay.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, hazard pay, you have to They're tricky.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Also on the way, a guy who says a rooster
has changed his life and now he is a best
selling book all because of it. Let's hit the phones.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Let's go to line too.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hey Violet, how are you doing fine?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
What's going on in your world?

Speaker 6 (00:50):
Actually have a problem with a cat that keeps on
going in my one room. And she's got her own
room and her own little tree and everything, but I
can't let her out because she got hit by the
car twice the wait so the cars were coming, and
then she turns out she's a dangerous pooping in my
room and she keeps on pooping there. So now I

(01:11):
don't know. Someone told me to get some miracle stuff
to put down clean it up. I've tried her uh
oh gosh, kitty litters. I've went through so many of them.
I went back to her old one. Now now someone
told me to do like a little rescue remedy in
her water. Now I put a couple drops. I don't

(01:31):
know how many drops I should put in, but I
put like five. But now we're seeing something different. She's
stressed out. So now I'm just wondering what kind of behavior,
What can I do for her?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Okay, so let me just get this clear.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
She she stays intoors and she has how many litter boxes?

Speaker 6 (01:49):
She has one, two, three, four, five in one.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Room in one room, one location. Okay, Now I don't
want her miss it, okay. And then are there other
key theme.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
In the other room there's another room?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay? So she does not leave this room?

Speaker 6 (02:06):
No, she does not.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Okay, So then how is she getting to another room
and going inappropriately?

Speaker 6 (02:12):
No, she's doing it in her room in her room.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Okay, yeah, all right, so there's.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
Other cats and bad what she's doing.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
Okay, yeah, and it's not malicious. She's not doing it
to tell you that she's pissed at you. She's unhappy.
She's very unhappy with her situation. Now, is she only
pooping out of the box or is she peeing out
of the box?

Speaker 6 (02:30):
No, she's seen in the box, but she's pooping outside.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
Okay, alrighty, So this is a little bit kind of
odd situation. I'll be honest, Violet, Because a cat that
only lives in one room, she's got a very enclosed
small area, so she may be hearing things in the
other rooms. She may be you know, smelling things other cats,
other people, animals going by, and that can be a
stressful thing. So in some situations, cats will just have

(02:55):
a complete aversion to their litter box and then sometimes
it's stress related. So I like the idea you're giving
her ample sites, but she's still not liking it. She's
she's there's something about the litter box environment that she's
not happy with. So I would say that, you know,
I would love it if she had more room in
the home that she could call her own because because

(03:15):
that would be a more natural exploration.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
And the next day we got presents again, We'll let
her back in her room, she'll try to go out
the doggy door, and then we have to catch her
before she runs out to the streets.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Okay, all right, So.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
I've tried other stuff for her, but it's just it's
really hard because I don't want to getting hit by car.
I don't want two things dogs love her to death,
that they'll eat her, you know.

Speaker 7 (03:39):
Yeah, Well, your challenge is going to be that it's
not going to be what we give her to make
her stop this. It's going to be how we change
things in her current environment to make her go into
the litter box. So it's really she's she's like someone
at a fair who really doesn't want to use that
porta potty and will go.

Speaker 8 (03:56):
Crouchy in the alley because they don't want to go
in that.

Speaker 7 (03:59):
Dirty porta potty or or something something that's upsetting in
that litter box area. So I like the idea if
you've tried litter changes, there may be other things we do.
We take the lids off the litter boxes, we may
try we may try other things in addition to that,
as far as a regular litter box for some cats
is just too tall, so we'll try a lower profile

(04:22):
litter box like an under key, a.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
Smaller one, and then a burger one, and.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Then well not just not just small in size.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
So the size of a litter box should be one
and a half times the length of the cat. But
we also want a low profile one that means a
low ledge to step over. And usually carpet armstory storage
boxes that go under beds, you know, for like uh,
wrapping paper, things like that, those are nice and low.
Now we may say we're gonna try something totally alternative
in that litter box. Besides litter, we can try Scoopa bulletter.

(04:50):
Most cats prefer Scoopa bullet or over clay style litters,
but we may even try other things, like I've had
cats that like to go in dirt or that like
to go in grass out side, so we may actually
put those items inside her litter box. The other thing
I would ask you to put in the litter is
a product called cat attract and it helps to attract

(05:11):
and draw attention to the litter box and makes kitties
want to go in that area.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
So that might be one thing to try there.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
And then as far as you know, we just need
to make sure we're making our kitty as comfortable as possible,
so pheromones are helpful.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
She may be a cat.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
We need to take her to the vet, talk to
the vet and see if she's a candidate for behavioral medications.
But everything you're describing to me is that she is
unhappy about her living situation. She's not doing it to
spite you, she's not trying to get you mad. She's
just she doesn't know what to do. And this is
how she's expressing herself.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
I thought maybe because when she got hit by the cars,
maybe something happened to her.

Speaker 7 (05:48):
You know, And that's one reason why to try the
low profile litter box may be one thing to do.
And I don't know the extent of her injuries, but yeah,
absolutely if she had something down in the pelvic area
that can cause pain, and so if we have some
kind of chronic pain back there, you know, that's the
next thing. So so that that too, I would make
sure talk to your veterinarian about that.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, my other one, my other veterinarian's giving her glueclose
to me.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
Great, good, and she actually hung herself on a fence,
but she goes outside, she's and she pees in the toilet,
so she's but she's kind of figured out thing and
she doesn't want no one in there, so we have
to keep hers only period hers.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
So Casey tells you everything about her. So wow, really.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
That's a lot of poopy details here we got Violet. Well,
I hope that's some help.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
I mean, you've definitely got kind of a lot of
things going on with trying to manage and definitely, you know,
I like the idea you got a tree for her,
give her things to do, those little hammis that you
put by the windows so she can look outside, and
a lot of those cat dispensing interactive toys and you know, treats,
you know, things for her to do.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Kind of plugs in the wall.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
All well, yeah, that's.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
That's the pheromone diffuser and that's a scent hormone that
has a natural calming effect, so it can help. I
don't find a lot of time it helps tremendously with
defecation issues. It's usually more cats with elimination issues, so
they're peeing in inappropriate spots.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
But you can try it. It wouldn't hurt certainly, so.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
She props on the output. So now I'm thinking it's
more that she wants attention.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
No, she's not defecating for attention. Cats don't do that.
They don't do that. It's not in it's not in
their playbook.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
She's defecating for either say a medical reason, that she's
having pain, or that she has she's unhappy with her
letterbox environment. So those are the focuses that I would
really don't turn it into a human emotion. Cats don't
think that way. It's really how we can make her happy.
And I know, Alan, you know, dogs aren't spiteful, are they?

Speaker 9 (07:53):
No, they're not. People are seful.

Speaker 10 (07:58):
No.

Speaker 9 (07:59):
Yeah, cats are complicated. I mean, the more I listened
to doctor deb talk about cats, I mean, it's a
it's a you gotta I mean, you gotta be determined
and you got to be committed to having a cat.
Cats are they're they're they're a high maintenance.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
They're tough. And now that we're here, this lady whose
cat is using the toilet, Wow, now we have to
wait for the bathroom because the cat's using the toilet.
You had problems with one cat and you actually ended
up putting carpet samples in the litter instead of litter.

Speaker 9 (08:23):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
She was going all over the carpet and I thought, well, God,
this will tell her that going on the carpet is okay.
But I tried it. I cut up some pieces and
put in the litter box for you, and it works.
She'll go to work.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
You get the samples, you just go to the carpet store.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Carpet store and just ask for their old samples or
get the old pieces.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
Of No, it may cost a little more than litter,
but you know, if they prefer that substrate, then then
you're training her back to the physical location of the box.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, we wish my best of luck there, Violet.

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Speaker 2 (14:23):
I figure I don't brush them, why should they brush them?

Speaker 9 (14:25):
Exact That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Get it together?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
How by Richard, how are you doing?

Speaker 19 (14:30):
How are you very good?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I understand you want to talk to Alan Cable?

Speaker 20 (14:34):
Oh yes, I have.

Speaker 21 (14:34):
My mother has a small little dog. I'm not it's
not a photo, but it's a nick tootle with another type.
I'm not sure which, but anyways, you know how you
call dogs when they see they haven't seen you for
a while, the usually run up to you. Well, this
dog usually does the opposite. It shies away from you.
I just wondering if there's any way.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
To break that.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Does the dog do it to everybody or just you, buddy?

Speaker 21 (14:56):
Everybody except everybody most.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
Likely her, except your mom? And how long has your
mom had the dogs and it's a puppy or did she?
Did she rescue it o the landlord?

Speaker 22 (15:05):
Even to her?

Speaker 21 (15:06):
Maybe for four month old?

Speaker 9 (15:08):
See Richard, basically, it's pretty This one's pretty simple. The
dog's just afraid, afraid of people, and usually that happens.
When dogs aren't socialized properly during that critical period when
they're little puppies. So the dog attempts to flee from
people because it's afraid. And that's one of the techniques
that dogs use when they're afraid. They run away. Sometimes
they show their teeth, or they growl, or they become

(15:30):
very still, and that's how you know the dog's afraid.
And to stop a dog from being afraid of people,
you basically have to make the dog understand that you
know you're no threat and that you're actually a positive thing.
So it might be a good idea when you walk
in the house to when the dog's afraid, have your
mom remove the dog to another place and then you
just sit in a chair and your mom lets the

(15:52):
dog out, and every time the dog goes a little
bit closer to you to investigate, your mom goes good
dog and gives the dog a treat, and the dog
starts to associate you and other people with treats instead
of being fearful that you're gonna do something. It's so funny, Richard.

Speaker 22 (16:06):
Some dogs.

Speaker 9 (16:07):
People think that dogs have been abused when they're afraid
of people, but some dogs are just afraid of people
that wear hats, or people that have beards, or people
that are women, people that are men. When I was
helping out in Columbus, Ohio at the at the training
center for the service dogs, one dog failed because he
was afraid of the Walmart happy face. I mean, he
passed everything he'd learned. How, Yeah, we couldn't walk them

(16:27):
over a Walmart happy face in this story. He was
just fearful of that.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Those things freak me out too. I gotta be real
honest with you whenever I said that's why it were
shopping hers because those smiley faces.

Speaker 9 (16:36):
Isn't that something? I mean, you just never know what
a dog's going to be afraid of, but you can
tell when they are afraid. And this dog just sounds
like you're very afraid and fearful. So you kind of
have to slowly be patient with her and get her
to the point where she associates people besides your mother
with pleasure.

Speaker 21 (16:52):
Well, I should have said that it's a male dog,
and I've actually known it for a little while. He's
always excited to see me, But your wags is sale.

Speaker 9 (16:59):
It's always see that's a miss. That's a mistake, Richard.
It appears to you that the dog is excited to
see you, but what you're really seeing is anxiety and fear.
A lot of people mistake that for oh, the dog's happy.
Just because the dog is wagging its tail and going kooky,
it doesn't mean they're happy to see you. What it
actually means is they're afraid of you because you're coming

(17:20):
into their You're coming onto their territory, and they're trying
to deal with their fear. That's why she turns around
and runs away.

Speaker 21 (17:27):
All right, And as soon as I sit in its
safe place, then it comes over to me and wants
me to pat it and all that. But the introl
is always run away and then run to a.

Speaker 9 (17:37):
Safe clos She's fearful. She's fearful, and she's trying to
protect your mother. Your mother is probably not a strong,
dominant pack leader, and the dog just thinks it has
to protect your mom. It's afraid of everybody. And then
once you sit down, you know, and it becomes mellow,
she can kind of investigate you, but she's still afraid
of you.

Speaker 22 (17:55):
Buddy.

Speaker 21 (17:56):
Okay, that sounds like it is. That's the case, so
thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (18:01):
Yeah, just be calm have your mother be calm and
act like the dog isn't there. Just walk in, sit down,
pay no attention to the dog. And when your mom
knows you're coming over, it'd be a good idea just
to put her in another room so that she can
be introduced to you after you're inside the house. And
that goes for everybody.

Speaker 22 (18:16):
Okay, is that the dog in a MoMA?

Speaker 19 (18:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I was running.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
That's a good question, Joey.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Thanks for your call, Richard. Let's go ahead and take
one for joy Turner. Hey, Karen, how are you doing?

Speaker 20 (18:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, what's going on?

Speaker 20 (18:30):
Well? I had to put my dog to sleep in
January Blue, and I'd like to see if if she's
got any feedback from him, or if he's you know,
moved on or around here with me.

Speaker 23 (18:44):
Okay, and hold on a second.

Speaker 20 (18:46):
I've tried to get a couple other pets, but then
they just didn't work out, and I'm still attached to him.

Speaker 23 (18:54):
And he says to tell you that that's why you're
having an issue getting another dog, because you have to
make a space for another dog in your life, and
he feels like he's taking up that space. He's wondering
if not being so close to you from a spirit
perspective would be a better thing for you, so that
you would have more room for a new dog to

(19:15):
fill up your physical heart with too. So he wants
to know how you feel about that.

Speaker 20 (19:18):
Blue was such an ideal dog for me and a
companion that it's going to be hard finding another animal
to replace him.

Speaker 23 (19:28):
He said, well, good, then, mom, let him tell you
how to do this. You don't have to replace him.
What you're looking for, he said, what you really drove
you to him was the connection that the two of
you had at your heart level. And he said, you're
not going to ever find another dog to replace that
spot in your heart because that's his spot. But there's
more spots in your heart. So all you have to
do is go looking for another dog that fills your

(19:50):
heart and not try to compare that dog to him,
and not try to have that dog fill his spot.

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Speaker 2 (21:02):
Baby, how's your toy poodle?

Speaker 25 (21:06):
She's fine?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
What's going on with her? What's her name, Sophie? How's
Sophie today?

Speaker 25 (21:11):
Yes, well, I just got home and she's been not
case but put in the kitchen while I was gone
for a couple of hours, and she's happy to see me.
Good and she's a good little dog. She's very loving,
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problems with her. One of them she rolls the ball

(21:33):
around the house all the time, and when she gets
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She did you say?

Speaker 7 (21:42):
She rolls all over the house, rolls the ball, rolls.

Speaker 25 (21:46):
Around the house with her nose.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Okay, all right, I envisioning her rolling an hour.

Speaker 25 (21:51):
You know, she'll go for an hour with that thing
all over the place, and that's her fun time, I guess.
But when she gets it stuck in a place that
we have to tell her to back it up. So
if she has we're backing it up, she'll grab a
piece of rug and pull out. I break her from
that well.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
And this behavior is only occurring when she's playing her
ball regimen.

Speaker 26 (22:12):
Yes, I guess.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
The simplest thing that I'm going to say is that.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
We need to control that ball playing activity because, especially
if it's something she does almost to an obsessive level,
there's a bit of anxiety. It's fun, but it can
be a bit of an anxiety driving experience so that
she may not do her normal things, so her behaviors
may be inappropriate at that time, and digging or you know,
chearing up the carpet is just a factor of her

(22:38):
anxiety with wanting to get to that ball. There's other
ways we can make this game maybe a little bit
more of an outlet for her. So if we can
take the ball outside, throw it, because if we can
have a little bit more control over that playtime where
she can find the ball, retrieve it, you know, or
you can play back and forth with her, that is
going to decrease some of her anxiety if that gets

(23:00):
out of her reach, and then she's forced to start
to do some of these behaviors that are a little
bit more on the obsessive line. So that's probably going
to be the easiest thing. The other thing that I
would make sure we do is that we give her
some other physical outlet besides the ball, because it really
can become truly.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
A problem of fun toy.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
And I have a couple of dogs that come here
in my office and if we pull out a ball,
it's like they're in the zone and nothing else in
this world matters, and they are just totally focused on that.

Speaker 25 (23:29):
That's where she is. If I pick up her ball
to take it out, fine, she actually barks some wine.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
So I would say we need to also find some
other outlets for physical activity for her, you know.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
And she may not love it like she loves the ball,
but what it will.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Do is it will help to expend some of that energy,
especially that nervous energy that we're building up as we're
playing ball.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
So we take her out, we go her out.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Running, we go out for walks, you know, whatever it
is that we can do for her that doesn't directly
draw on that kind of the obsessive behavior with her ball.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 17 (24:04):
I'm Stacy Cohen for Animal Radio. Well, you think you
know your dogs they give you a certain bark. I
can always tell when the postman's outside or when somebody's
walking by with their dog, because my dogs have different
barks for each thing. There's a certain posture, a look
that they give you. But do you know your dogs
can also tell a lot about you as well, by
the way you stand, by the way you do certain things.

(24:26):
Veterinarian doctor Stu Ropeson from Fox Creek Veterinary Hospital says
there's a few things that you may want to know
about your dog, Like they know when you're being unfair
to some extent. Researchers found that when dogs saw other
dogs getting treats for a trick that they'd been performing unrewarded, well,
the dog that didn't get anything became visibly distressed. They
can also tell when your priority shift, like when you

(24:48):
bring a baby home from the hospital in you're not
the you know, focusing all your attention on them anymore. Well,
they pick up on that, and it can even lead
to depression. They also sense fear. Dogs read the world
by reading us, so if you act cautiously and back away,
they probably will too. And they also can tell if
you're generous. Believe it or not. Dogs are watching and

(25:10):
listening to all your social interactions with other humans, so
take note. If you're having a fight with your husband
or you're yelling at one of your kids, your dog
may take sides because they can read you and they
can read other humans too. I'm Stacy Cohen. Get more
animal breaking news at animal radio dot com.

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This has been an animal radio news updates.

Speaker 27 (25:32):
Get more at animal radio dot com.

Speaker 11 (25:39):
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Speaker 9 (25:41):
Here's hol and Judy.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
And let's head on over to Rebecca. I believe it's Rebecca.
Is this Rebecca, Regina? Sorry about that? What's going on? Regina?

Speaker 28 (25:52):
Okay? My question is we have two Africa grays, but
the youngest one, his name is Leevie's and we Sho's
guy him at the pitch shop like a month ago.
He was there. He was at a pretshop for nine months.
He was a baby and he never grows tail. But
we really like him because nobody was going to take

(26:14):
him home nowhere. So my question is is he going
to grow tail ever?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (26:20):
So just so I understand he has not grown his
tail feathers in or is he You witness him plucking them.

Speaker 28 (26:26):
Out some as soon as they start growing up, he
just plug them out.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Okay. And is he housed with other birds or is
he by himself?

Speaker 28 (26:36):
He was by himself at the time while he was
in the pitch shop. Right now we have more than
one bit at home. So he's socializing with other.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Bears now, okay, because that would be one big thing.

Speaker 19 (26:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I do see some juvenile African grades that tend to
do this.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
You know, I'm be in captivity and sometimes just when
they're kind of stressed in kind of these pet store situations,
it's kind of what they do just kind of socialize
and kind of preen each other. But it can get excessive,
and it actually can also kind of be triggered by
some anxiety problems too. So I like the idea that
you're trying to find him things to do, you're trying
to socialize him, But I'm also a little bit concerned

(27:14):
because in some cases we can see excessive tail feather
chewing and plucking when there's actually problems medically going on
down there. So there can actually be pain, inflammation, or
even problems with the prem gland, a little kind of
oil gland over the tail base area.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
So if you haven't had him checked.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
By a VET an avian veterinarian, I would certainly start
with that first, because anything you try to do behaviorally
to correct this, we're not going to get anywhere.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
If there is something medically we need to address.

Speaker 28 (27:44):
Okay, because I keep checking and him and I don't
see any any like bleeding fats, then you know this
was something person about it. So I check and everything
is dry, is not is not bleeding or it's not none.
In fiction, so why to keep him busy put toys
inside the cage when design that he's in the cage,

(28:05):
and as since I have more than one, actually I
was trying to find a place where I think, what
do I need to do to check on these six
because I have more than one, So I really want
to know when I have how many balls or us
I have?

Speaker 7 (28:18):
So okay, yeah, definitely, And i'd say for you know,
for this guy's you know, interest, I want to make
sure that he's staying active to so you know, you've
got some things for him to do.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
But there's also ways you can hide the food in
his cage to keep him occupied.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
And kind of going back to this feather picking birds,
it's horribly frustrating and becomes really some repetitive behaviors and
and I think a lot of times, you know, we
just kind of have to think out of the box
to keep our birds busy and to keep them from
picking themselves. So you know, there's little ways you can
kind of hide their food in pieces of bald up
paper so that he has to kind of pick through

(28:53):
the paper to get to the food.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
And if the time he.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
Spends interesting, yeah, exactly, So the time that huge birds.
We pretty much present the food to them, sit it
in front of them and say, okay, go ahead and eat.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
And it's boring, you know, it's very boring.

Speaker 28 (29:06):
So because he's the only time when he gets very
actively when he's when he's hungry and he starts. Also,
what I did is I remove their food from the
cach and I play it on the stand. So what
I do is I forced him to walk up with
the cage and get the food was he's out of
the cage because he's very irrational. Now, he's like, he's
very he's very he doesn't let me pet him or anything.

(29:29):
So he's a fight so he's very aggressus to what
I try to do issues make him get up the
cage and close the cache and try to keep him
understand because most of the time you cleaning against the
cach and up corner in a sitting position, so I
will like that, never going to let the tail to
grow any better because he's always against the floor or
the cage. So I try to keep him understand most

(29:50):
of the time.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
Yeah, and then one other thing, and your vet can
kind of help you with us as well, is sometimes
you know African.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Grays are big birds.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
Sometimes if their wings are trying a little bit overly aggressively,
it causes them to fall and injure their tail feathers
more and that can lead to inflammation in.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
The feather shaft.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
So that's where you know, I know you're not seeing
anything going on there, but this is where the veterinary
eyes might be helpful and determining if there's something like
that that we need to back down on a wing trim,
use some anti inflammatory pain leavers to help.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
So that's kind of it.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
So there's a lot we can try in that avenue. Now,
you did bring up something about sexting these guys, so
there's definitely a blood test.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
We can do a DNA blood test.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
To sex birds that you just can't tell from the
outside what sex they are, and that too, you your
avian veterinarian can help you with that. We either draw
blood from one of the veins or even sometimes just
from a tonial trim. But yeah, so that can definitely
be done and it might help you kind of understand
some of your birdie's behavior as well.

Speaker 28 (30:46):
So weird because it really something special because I have
this issue with that of my other African Gladio was
plugging the creases of his kiss. But I give him
more toys, am I allow him more time off the
caach And that's your lot. He's all socialized in and
all over the place now in a ninety deeping the cage.
So maybe it really is younger than than partic. So

(31:09):
I was hoping that that is phenocia. But I'm want
to fall to what are you saying? Thank you for
taking my call and I love your show.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Oh, thank you so much for Gina. We appreciate your call.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
One eight sixty six four or five eight four or five.
I did not realize you were bilingual, you.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
Know sometimes you know, I definitely you know, people from
all walks of life coming in here and all places
across the globe.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
So I did not understand a word of that. But
she was talking about a bird, right, sexing her bird, right.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
Yes, sexing a bird, and feather picking and your African grain.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
So yes, I'm such an idiot.

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Hey, folks, is a Jackson gallacy. You're listening to animal Radio.
Please do everyone a favor your animals today we.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Get your email, Yes we do. Your voice Animal radio
dot com the best way to get to us got
a skating email for a segment that Alan Cable did.

Speaker 9 (33:30):
What they say?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
What you do?

Speaker 22 (33:32):
What did I blow steam off about controversial the show.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You might remember a few weeks back, we were talking
about bringing the dog into the bed, sleeping with the dog,
and you, of course vehemently say no, don't allow the god.

Speaker 9 (33:48):
But I said, I said, other people, you should do
what you want. It's just I'm not gonna let my
dog in my bed. I don't tell people what to do.
People tell me what to do.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Well, Roger, Roger p thought so much of your segment
that he decided to call us, and he writes, or
he decided to write us, and he writes, I listened
to your little bit. I like how he says a
little bit. I listened to your little bit on my
dog sleeping in bed with me. First of all, it's
got nothing to do with guilt. Second, even if or
when he doesn't sleep with me, he doesn't sleep in

(34:19):
a box. Not only do I not own a box,
I don't put him on a leash. This guy never
puts him on a leash.

Speaker 31 (34:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
He also roams our home as he pleases, so if
an intruder were to show up, he would be able
to bite his genitals off.

Speaker 9 (34:30):
This is beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
If he does make a nuisance of himself in bed,
I just kick him off the bed. He knows who
the true big dog is in the house. It's me,
he puts capital me right there.

Speaker 9 (34:43):
So what's he saying?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
He says in the end, I get so sick of
the politically correct bs on all these little radio snippets
from you guys. You're so called experts. The only good
thing left in America is that you can have your opinion,
and I can know it sucks. Happy Holidays, Roger Peter.
He writes, PS, I drive a semi own guns hunt

(35:04):
and Doc my dog helps me pick up the chicks.
Go figure a real rednick. So thank you for your
email here.

Speaker 22 (35:10):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Alan, do you want?

Speaker 9 (35:13):
I'm happy for Yeah, it's a beautiful dog, a beautiful dog.
I'm happy for that. You know what, not all dogs need,
not all human owners need help. I mean some dogs
are just really cool and uh, you know you're lucky
when you get a dog like that. They don't need much.
They don't need much training, they don't need much help.
They kind of come into the world and they're special
and they just behave cool from the minute they're brought

(35:35):
into the house. And you know that happens a lot
with rescue dogs. I've noticed that a lot of times
with rescue dogs that when you adopt a rescue dog,
a dog that's in the pound, they come home and
a lot of times they're perfect little citizens and they're
wonderful animals. So I'm really happy that him and his
dog are doing well. And I don't consider myself an

(35:56):
expert on anything. I just basically watch dog behave. I
watch the people that own the dogs. And that's why
it's really cool to be around the people that own
the dogs, because you can really see where the problem
or where the dilemma comes from when you watch how
a human interacts with his dog. And then I just
try to help the person adjust their behavior so that
the dog feels more confident, secure, comfortable, and can give

(36:19):
the owner of the behavior that he wants, which is,
you know, you want a good little dog that be
heves like a good citizen and it's fun to be around.
You don't want a dog that jumps all over people,
and that you have to lock away, and that you
can't take around other dogs and other people. You want
a dog that's well socialized, that you can have as
a companion. And that's the goal, is to help people

(36:40):
achieve that.

Speaker 22 (36:41):
I'm good.

Speaker 32 (36:41):
You feel like that. But people, I consider myself an expert. Okay,
So if Alan considers him I'm an expert, don't send
me no hate mail because I will lash back.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
What are you an expert on, Joseph? What do you
know more than? What do you know more about than
everybody else?

Speaker 32 (36:56):
Listen? What do you want to know? When you want
to know about cot? You want to know about the
marrow and the hair? What do you want to No,
I'll tell you anything you want to know about coat.

Speaker 22 (37:03):
Come on, baby, put it on the table. Let's go.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
I get a question for it. Like if you shave
your dog's hair off, how come it doesn't grow back
the same? Sometimes it depends.

Speaker 22 (37:10):
It depends on what kind of coat. Some coachs it will,
some of the coachs it won't. If it's a double
coated dog.

Speaker 32 (37:16):
You don't want to do that because what you did
was is you destroyed the natural process about a hash
should be removed.

Speaker 22 (37:22):
It shouldn't be cut. So there you go.

Speaker 9 (37:24):
That's wild man. That's well, that's what I did to
my dog. I've ruined this coat. Joey, I'm bad.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
We love your email. By the way, you can send
it to your voice at Animal radio dot com, give
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Animal Radio app for your iPhone or Android. You could
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Speaker 9 (37:41):
Hey, how what are you an expert in?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
He's expert at not being an expert.

Speaker 11 (37:45):
You're listening to Animal Radio. Call the dream Team now

Speaker 9 (37:56):
Alan Cable with today's dog tip. We have an email
from a listener whose dog was afraid of a new
lamin and floor. She said, sometimes he seems to forget
about it and find some peace, but invariably he refocuses
on the floor and becomes afraid again. What can she do?
It's pretty interesting, isn't it. Dogs become afraid when they
have a negative experience, a bad experience and associate it
with something. So you know how dogs get excited and

(38:16):
run full speed. He was used to some other floor
covering and here it is this nice slippery laminate. Maybe
the dog took off on that new leamon and floor
when he got excited and couldn't stop, slid across the
floor and banged into the wall, or just never had
his legs taken out from under him like that before,
So at that moment he became afraid and associates it
with the floor. Now, because she said he forgets sometimes

(38:36):
and finds peace, that's the time to give him attention
and reward him and say good dog, give him a treat.
You can use that time to refocus his mind away
from the fear and start forming a positive association with
being on the floor by giving him affection and a treat.
Now understand this is calm affection. Then you put his
leash on and walk him around on the floor, being
all calm and acting like a leader. And when he's successful,

(38:58):
you tell him what a good dog he is. If
he's too afraid to venture on the floor, just stand there,
say nothing, look straight ahead and stand there for three
four minutes. Then take off and try to walk the
dog across the floor briskly. If you won't go, just
stop and start over again. You can't even walk in
a circle. Away from the floor before turning back facing
it and briskly trying to take off across it. Remember

(39:18):
you can't feel sorry for your dog, and you can't
be tense. You've got to be totally calm and picture
in your mind you and your dog walking across the
floor like it's no big deal. The more calm and
confident you are, the more you act like a leader,
the more your dog is going to learn to trust
you and to follow you. It's all about being a
leader and building trust. So remember to walk your dog

(39:39):
every day for at least thirty minutes on your side
or behind you, never in front. And remember these things
don't happen overnight. Whenever you try to change a dog's
behavior or eliminate a fear build positive associations, it takes time, consistency,
and patience. Get more tips at Animal radio dot com.

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Speaker 34 (41:07):
To my left, doctor Debbie answering your vet medical questions,
Dog trainer Alan Cable, dog Father Joey Vallani, animal communicator
Joey Turner, Lady Buger's studio stunt dog earned her wings
last week, flying across the country for the first time
on a plane.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
She did very well, so good, she did better.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
She does she get miles, she does, she does get miles,
little doggie miles. Uh, she's what is she answering calls
now to she's doing that again. I guess she's on
the phone right now. I don't know who she's with.
Maybe she's giving advice to some dogs that might be traveling.
I don't really know. I do know that in just
a couple of minutes here, we're going to have a
guy who's been uh, I don't know how to put

(41:47):
this kindly.

Speaker 22 (41:47):
Let's face it.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
He has a rooster that's ruling the roost at his house.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
He's a real rooster.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
We'll find out what the whole deal is with him
in just a couple of minutes. Right here on Animal Radio,
Joey Today, you're gonna be telling us how we groom
our cats, How we can groom our cat? Is it
really necessary to groom our cats? I mean, don't they
grow themselves?

Speaker 22 (42:07):
But too well to a certain extent.

Speaker 32 (42:08):
But you know what, we gotta help on the process
a little bit there, and it'll make life a lot
easier for everyone.

Speaker 22 (42:15):
If we if we help them.

Speaker 9 (42:15):
Along, Joey, how long? How much longer do I got
to groom my cat? My tongue is starting to get raw.

Speaker 32 (42:20):
You know what, until you caught up a hairball, when
you cough up, when you cough up a hairball, it's done.
Just be careful around the tail because you get that
little tangy taste. You know, you got a dog lift
of at you know, brush your teeth.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well, that's all in the way. So if you're a
cat owner, you want to be listening up for that. Hey, Phil,
how are you?

Speaker 35 (42:37):
I am doing great today. How are you, sir?

Speaker 10 (42:40):
Good?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
What's going on in your world?

Speaker 35 (42:42):
Okay? I have two little trouble making your piece that
I just love like there's no tomorrow. One of them,
the silky larger of the two, is chewing and chewing
and chewing everything. I have tried everything. I've tried alapino,
I have tried fust. I have tried the stuff that

(43:07):
you buy at the pet care stores that's supposed to
make it bitter, and they hate the taste of it.
Not with Molly, Molly Choose. Molly has managed to chew
through all of the collars that I've gotten. She has
managed to chew through her license, the aluminum license. She

(43:32):
has managed to chew the area around the pet carrier
that I have her or that I put her in.
For this, she chewed away the part that actually locked
the door.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Carrier.

Speaker 32 (43:48):
Sounds like a billy goat.

Speaker 35 (43:51):
All right, Molly? Is she turned a year old last month?
I've called in before. I had two little Yorkies that
I got from a breeder where I got.

Speaker 9 (44:00):
They, Phil, don't threaten me. Don't threaten me, Phil, don't
don't tell me you've called before. Don't threaten me, buddy,
don't threaten Hey, Phil, you know uh. Let me ask
you a couple of questions. Is your dog neutered or spade?
It's a little boy dog, right, Is he neutered?

Speaker 10 (44:14):
Yet?

Speaker 20 (44:15):
No?

Speaker 35 (44:15):
They were both spade when they were six months? Right,
between six months and the year old, they were beautiful.

Speaker 9 (44:22):
And and does your dog have any does your dog
have any physical problems? Have you checked your dog out
with the vet? The one that's chewing? Just to be safe? Oh, fill,
the dog's got your leg pill.

Speaker 35 (44:33):
They have their own little hmo okay, each one of them.
Every time they sneeze, they go to the dog.

Speaker 9 (44:41):
I'm beautiful now, Phil, I got I got another question
for you, Phil, I got questions, and I know you've
got answers. Do you play with your dog? Phil? Do
you walk your dog every day for like a half hour?
Do you play with the dogs?

Speaker 35 (44:53):
Get Okay, I drive a truck cross country right, every
time the air brakes go on, they get out.

Speaker 9 (45:00):
Do you tire them out?

Speaker 19 (45:01):
Good?

Speaker 9 (45:02):
Though? Filled? Does you tire the little dogs out to worth?

Speaker 19 (45:04):
Yep?

Speaker 9 (45:04):
They want to sleep and stuff. Okay, here's my suggestion.
Here's my suggestion, without knowing you and being there with you, Phil,
when you take your dogs out and you tire them out,
you tire the dog out, you play with your dog.
You put the dog in the crate immediately after, I mean,
you tire that dog out. Put the dog in the
crate immediately after. And as soon as the dog is

(45:27):
laying there being calm, you tell your dog what a
good dog he is, and you give him a treat.
You reward him for calm behavior in the crate. Okay,
the more tired that dog is, the better it's gonna
be for you. And when you decide to play with
the dog and do a chew thing like where you're
gonna play with the dog, where the dog's gonna get
to choose something. Then you always have only two or

(45:49):
three toys, pick the favorite ones, your dog's favorite ones,
and you stick that in his face and when he
starts chewing it, you're like, good boy, good dog, And
you're consistent, Phill. You do a day in and day out,
but the most important thing is to tire your dog
out and to teach your dog to be alone without you,
so that when you leave, your dog is calm, and

(46:09):
when you come back, your dog is calm. So you
want to work towards calmness. You want your dog to
be calm all the time, except when you're playing. At
other times, like you said, whenever she hears the air brakes,
she starts to rev up. So that's like a little
trigger that tells her, oh, we're gonna stop, I'm gonna
get out. Well, So then play with the air brakes
and don't stop, Phil, don't stop so that she starts

(46:29):
to associate the air breaks with nothing. You don't want
to give her any triggers that get her wound up
in kookie and crazy.

Speaker 19 (46:37):
Are you there, Phil, I think I'll want to Phil.

Speaker 9 (46:40):
Then you want to get married. I'd love a wife
like you. I want to I'm looking for a woman
who won't interrupt me. You're the next best thing that
I did. I took away the breath.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Man.

Speaker 35 (46:57):
I am open minded to the point that I'll let
my brain fall out. Okay, you know, gotcha?

Speaker 9 (47:03):
Well, Phil, did anything I say about your pooch? Did
that help you at all to make any sense?

Speaker 35 (47:07):
Kind of? But you'd have to understand, Molly. One thing
I am my dogs is very consistent. They came from
the brears arms right into my arms, into Maaian Iowa,
right into my truck. Okay, it's the only life they've
ever known. They get out four and five times a day,
or at least a half hour to run and play

(47:28):
and bite at each other and play and just have
a good time. Then they get back in. They get
a good treat for coming to me when I call
them and were going down the road. The problem is
when I go inside in a restaurant, I come back
out and something has been showed up again.

Speaker 9 (47:45):
When you leave the don't say goodbye to them, don't
talk to them, just leave, learn to stop talking. Okay,
about a half hour before you know you're gonna pull
over to eat. Do not talk to your dogs at all.
And remember play with You got to set it up
in your brain. I'm gonna play with the dogs. I'm
gonna exhaust the dogs. I'm gonna get back in the truck.
I'm gonna drive another forty minutes with the dog in

(48:05):
the crate. Then I'm going to leave the truck without
saying award, and I'm gonna come back without saying a ward.
You gotta do this stuff, Phil consistently. It's not gonna
change overnight. You got a young, energetic dog, and you're
probably not getting the dog tired enough. You probably think
you are, But the dog needs to be run a
lot until the to the point of exhaustion where she

(48:26):
just doesn't want to run anymore. She just wants to stop.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Does he does he put the dog in a crate? Well,
he goes in. I don't get what's gonna keep him
from chewing?

Speaker 9 (48:35):
Well, what keeps going? Dogs chew? Dogs chew because.

Speaker 35 (48:39):
Through the crate man really the dog.

Speaker 19 (48:44):
Jaws.

Speaker 22 (48:45):
He has a billy goes. He don't have a dog.

Speaker 9 (48:48):
Dogs chew because they're bored. Nine times out of ten,
if there's nothing wrong with the dog. They chew out
of boredom. They're bored and that just means they're not
getting enough energy relief and start chewing everything. And you've
got to teach them what they can chew. And you've
got Phil, You've got to work towards being calm. You know,

(49:09):
I'm just talking to you. You know you're a guy
who likes to talk a lot. I'll bet you're talking
to those dogs all the time.

Speaker 35 (49:15):
I was quiet, and you told me so, you said, Phil,
were you there?

Speaker 22 (49:18):
And I got to agree with you.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I gotta agree with Phil them I'm with Phil.

Speaker 9 (49:24):
He did say with Phil too. I agree with Phil to,
But Phil is not Phil is not willing to. Phil
actually gets pleasure out of the fact that his dog
is chewing everything because I've I've given him a solution.
I've given him a solution to work towards, and he
dismisses it. He's like, you gotta understand, No, well, I.

Speaker 35 (49:44):
Have not missed anything. You are telling me that there
are triggers. I'm gonna have to watch for those triggers. Yes,
and I'm going to have to adjust my behavior in
order to adjust the dog's behavior.

Speaker 9 (49:56):
Now now, you're Phil. Now you're talking. Now you're talking.
You can Phil. Watch your dogs. Stop talking and watch
your dogs. Watch the way they move, watch their behavior.
You're gonna be able to tell when your dog is
rebbed up, and that would be the time to take
your dog out and tire that dog out a lot.
When the dog is tired to the point of exhaustion.

(50:17):
Put the dog in the kennel and you can drive
with the dog in the kennle. You don't leave the
truck necessarily, just put your dog in the kennel. She's
nice and calm, she's taking a nap. Good dog. When
she wakes up, open the kennle door and put a
treat in there. And when she starts to on her own,
figure you know, figure out that the kennele is a
great place and good things happen there. She's gonna start

(50:39):
going in there, and she's not gonna care whether you
come or go. For some reason, when you decide to leave,
she's getting all excited. So you've got to work towards
getting rid of that. You know, when you leave, it's
just like a matter of fact, no big deal, he's
coming back. I don't care. You gotta get your dog
to the point she doesn't care whether you come or go,
and it'll take you some.

Speaker 19 (50:59):
Time to do that, okay Man.

Speaker 9 (51:01):
And by the way, Phil, this is very important put
them both both in crates because the other one might
be instigating the dog that's doing the chewing getting her
rebbed up.

Speaker 35 (51:11):
I assure you they instigate. They one seats off of
the other. I was just wondering if there was something
maybe I could use to be a deterrent chewing of
the wrong items.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
I want you know what it's you brought up.

Speaker 35 (51:25):
They get, they get greenies, they get everything they can
go to you brought up.

Speaker 9 (51:29):
But see, Phil, the key, the key is not what
they get. The key is when you give it to them.
You only give your dog a treat when your dog
is being totally calm and doing the behavior that you want.
If you give a dog a treat when the dog
is excited, you're telling the dog, hey, I like this
excited behavior. I like when you're nuts. So you have
to stop and think about what you're doing and when

(51:50):
you're doing it, buddy.

Speaker 35 (51:51):
Okay Man, thanks a lot.

Speaker 34 (51:52):
Now, thanks for your call film Phil, by bye, A
little honker in your throat there what's going on there.

Speaker 9 (51:57):
Bud, Yeah, I got you know, you know, you know
how it goes, how it is, hell, I mean, you know,
the body's changing, you know, the getting older a little bit.
The systems are breaking down. Me and Joey, we're gonna
be playing Marjohn soon in a room with no friends
and buying lottery tickets and praying we hit the big
one so we can sit in a bigger room with
a bigger March on board.

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And we go to line four where we have Lisa
on the phone. Hey Lisa, how you doing?

Speaker 7 (54:10):
Hi?

Speaker 12 (54:10):
Real good?

Speaker 19 (54:10):
How you doing good?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
What's going on.

Speaker 29 (54:12):
Well, I've got two new mail kiddies. One's two years old,
one year old. Eddie's the older one, Cody's the other one,
and they get along grete their best buddies. But when
a strange camp comes along, Cody, the younger one, gets
very aggressive territorial. I understand all that, and you know,
the strange can't. We'll move on, and that's fine. What

(54:34):
I don't understand is then he'll turn on Eddie and
get aggressive with Eddie, and that's I don't understand at all.

Speaker 7 (54:42):
Okay, So are your kiddies going outside or are they
just inside and kind of witnessing the cat, like perusing
their yard.

Speaker 29 (54:47):
Well, they're predominantly indoor cats, but they'll hang around the
doorway and maybe a strange cat will come by the doorway.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
Okay, all right, Well this is an easy question to
answer and a hard one to fix.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
So I'll start with it's definitely when cats do this.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
This is what we call redirect redirected aggression. And even
though the fellow cat in the house is not the
one causing the stress or causing the problem, he's the
closest thing nearby. So when cats that see say stray
cat in the yard, or they look through the window
and they see one.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
They become agitated and they have stress.

Speaker 7 (55:23):
They don't know how to release that, so they'll turn
to the left and the right, and whatever's closest, whether
it's like another cat or even a human or a dog,
whoever might be around in the immediate area becomes the victim.
And it's truly in anxiety. It's a way that they
redirect their necessary behavior that they would want to respond.

(55:46):
So cats just can't say, hey, buddy, get lost, you know,
they have to demonstrate that through actions, and that's exactly
what he's doing. He just doesn't recognize, nor is he
able to stop that he's picking the wrong cat. So
the challenges for cats that are so indoors, we start
from that point and talking about, you know, blocking access
to the other kitties so they can't see them. Now,

(56:07):
if your cats are going outside, you're gonna probably not
get a hold of this problem because if they're going outside,
they're unsupervised. Most likely they may see other kitties and
you have no way of preventing that interaction. So what
needs to happen is that your cats need to not
see outdoor cats at all, Otherwise.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
You're going to keep having these problems.

Speaker 7 (56:26):
And the reason is is that cats remain persistently aroused
for many hours to even days, so many times, and
I actually have one client who we went through this
for months and was well over a year because even
though the cat had maybe attacked the other cat, you know,
an hour ago, later in the day, the cats would

(56:49):
fight again because just the sight of the fellow cat
in the household re kind of reawakened that interaction. I
remember that cat outside and when I saw my brother,
that's when the problems happen. So then they attack the
trigger to what they believe was the other cat being.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
In the in the environment. So this can be tough.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
So your best best bet is to try to deter
kind of the vision and the sight of those so
keeping them indoors, closing blinds.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
I've even put window films on windows at the lower
level where the katis.

Speaker 7 (57:19):
Are, keeping them away from the windows or the doors,
whether that be ba using sticky tape or taking those
carpet runners turning them upside down. Just got to keep
the cats from getting to where they see the outdoor katies.

Speaker 19 (57:33):
He opposite he's.

Speaker 29 (57:34):
Non aggressive and he couldn't care less of another cat
comes by, Oh.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
For you other kittie. Yeah, and there, And they're individuals.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
Absolutely, there's no reason we're gonna expect a cat to
behave the same just because they're cat. People are very
different as well, So you've just got two different personalities
and their stress tolerances are different in how they manifest that.
So you know that's gonna be one of the best
things you can do is block that access. Now, the
other thing if you're cants are solely indoors that you

(58:02):
can do is to try to keep those out kitties away,
and that's not easy either, but you know there's those
motion activated uh compressed air canisters. In nicer weather, you
could use sprinklers that are motion activated to.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Scare the kitties away outside.

Speaker 7 (58:20):
And then I actually am a hunting friend of mine
introduced me to using coyote urine and kind of treating
the area around your windows and your doors with that to.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Keep the outdoor cats.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
So yeah, sounds fun, doesn't it, But that can definitely
be something to try as well.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
But the number one problem.

Speaker 7 (58:39):
I see when when this happens is that a lot
of times the kitties, you know, we put them back
together after the fight has happened, and we put them
together too soon, so it may be hours where you
need them to kind of chill and sit in separate quarters.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Sometimes it's even up.

Speaker 7 (58:53):
To five days where you just can't get the cats
to be together because the sight of the you know,
household cat, it's going to trigger this you know, this
aggressive about there.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
I know that's what I'm mean. This is not easy,
definitely not easy to deal with.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
So your your best efforts are going to be trying
to deter your cats from going outside blocking their vision.
And then I've had behaviors get involved with this for
months and years in cats, and it can really escalate.
So the other thing to be important I should mention
is with cats, and especially in redirected aggression, we don't
ever want to yell or discipline the cats.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
It doesn't work well in a normal situation, but when.

Speaker 7 (59:30):
A cat is really anxious and really hyper vigilant like this,
it's going to actually make things worse. So we don't
want to get them feeling more anxious about the way
they're feeling, So just kind of separate the cats safely.
Quite dark room and kind of let things settle down. Sorry,
not an easy fix on that one, Lisa.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Good luck with that. Thank you for your call, Lisa.

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I'm Stacy Cohen for Animal radio doc workers in Norfolk,
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It's Animal Radio and here at the Animal Radio Studios,
we have a cat that's boss. At home. The dog
is the boss.

Speaker 30 (01:04:30):
Ladybug.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
The studio stunt dog is the boss. Whatever she wants,
She rules the roost. Not for this next guest, our
next guest Brian McGrory. Am I pronouncing that right? Brian
McGrory is joining us, and he is a well, he
is a rooster that rules the roost at his house. Brian,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 37 (01:04:49):
I really appreciate being here. Thanks an awful love for
having me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Your book is doing fabulous. Did you ever think it
would do so well? The book called Buddy, How a
Rooster May Be a Family Man, and it's a up
the charts. There. You're selling a whole bunch of those.

Speaker 19 (01:05:02):
Well we are.

Speaker 37 (01:05:03):
We're delighted by how it's doing. We've been lucky to
get some great reviews and some really prominent newspapers and magazines,
and it's yeah, it's been really really doing well. I
appreciate you saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Oh wait till everybody hears about it on Animal Radio. Now,
it's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
The pinnacle of your career. I guarantee that. Let's see,
give us a little bit of a backstory, and I
guess you fell in love with your veterinarian. Is that
what happened?

Speaker 19 (01:05:28):
I did?

Speaker 37 (01:05:28):
It kind of all starts with a great dog that
I had, a Golden Retriever named Harry who died too young.
At ten years old. But he introduced me to his
lifelong veterinarian, Pam Bendock, and from there we got together
and I left my city place for the suburbs and

(01:05:49):
my life of independence for Pam and her two young daughters.
And everything was admittedly an adjustment, but it was great,
except for the one pet they had among the many
pets they had, and that was a snow white but
rooster named Buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Rooster. Didn't like you.

Speaker 37 (01:06:07):
Well, the rooster. It's interesting, the rooster. It was the
result of a science fair project in Pam's oldest daughter's school.
They hatched chicken eggs, and one egg hatched, oh thank god,
only one. In retrospect outcomes this adorable fuzzy yellow chick
that is constantly handled and loved on by Pam and

(01:06:29):
the kids. And the chick grows up to be what
they thought was a hen, and the hens sprouts crown
and barrel chest and ends up to be a rooster.
Loves Pam loves the kid hated my guts.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Now we hear this story with dogs all the time,
especially with Chihuahua's, those little barking dog yapping dogs. They
become real possessive. So apparently this rooster named Buddy didn't
like you. You had to befriend it somehow? Were you
able to befriend it? What lessons did you learn?

Speaker 37 (01:07:00):
It's interesting In his defense, Uh, you know, it's it's Yes,
he definitely hated me, But I think he never understood
the point of me. You know, if he was already
ruling his roost, what was this pathetic little man doing
there trying to do the same thing? Sure, and yeah,
you're you're right. I mean, you draw lessons from funny places.
And as I'm kind of adjusting to life and suburbia,

(01:07:20):
as I'm trying to figure out how you deal with
a couple of young girls and life in a suburban
home and drama lurking around every corner because it's a
house filled with women. Ye, what Buddy taught me was
I mean, he was so darn committed to everything he
had in this house and in his yard. He had
free range of the yard.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I think Buddy is taking control of the phone line
that has happened there. We've lost, We've lost, and Bud
hey didn't.

Speaker 9 (01:07:53):
Like that Buddy heard. Hope if Buddy talks some third
person to himself. Buddy doesn't like what Buddy's hearing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
That very worried about Brian right now? Ye know that
Rus concerned that perhaps Buddy cut the phone lines. We're
gonna giveaways of this book in just a couple of
seconds here. It's a hard book to get because it's
selling out everywhere. Who would have thought got it back?

Speaker 22 (01:08:14):
Brian?

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
Are you okay?

Speaker 37 (01:08:16):
I'm okay. Worry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
It wasn't Buddy, was it.

Speaker 37 (01:08:19):
It wasn't.

Speaker 20 (01:08:20):
It was not.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Thought maybe he cut the phone line or something. Wanted
this interview to end.

Speaker 19 (01:08:25):
Very coo.

Speaker 37 (01:08:25):
He heard, he heard me saying something negative. No, I'm
sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
So what did he teach you?

Speaker 37 (01:08:30):
Well, he taught me about commitment to what you have.
I mean, he was I don't know where I lost you.
But he was so committed to everything in his house,
to Pam, to her kids, to everything in his yard.
And he wasn't worried about what was going on anywhere
else outside of the fence line. He just was so
completely satisfied.

Speaker 19 (01:08:50):
With his world.

Speaker 37 (01:08:51):
And I'm looking at him and I'm saying, you know,
it would help if I were a little bit more
like Buddy here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Ah, it's pretty good, because I would have looked at
him and I would at dinner.

Speaker 37 (01:09:02):
Believe me, there were many nights when I thought that
exact thing. But my problem was I was definitely the
second most popular guy in the household, so I couldn't
afford to think like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Okay, I get it. So do you guys get along?

Speaker 10 (01:09:15):
Now?

Speaker 37 (01:09:15):
Well, here's a sad part of this is this past May,
as I was doing the final final run through on
the book the copy edits, one Sunday morning, Buddy came
walking out of what is perhaps the most elaborate rooster
shed in America with his trends and windows and double
cedar doors. Wow, came walking down his plank. Pam was

(01:09:38):
letting him out on this glorious Sunday morning, and he
collapsed of what appears to be a heart attack and
died in the grass right basically right in Pam's arms.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Oh I'm sorry, hear that?

Speaker 19 (01:09:49):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 37 (01:09:50):
I mean I had always thought that. Pam had always
thought that a rooster would well cared for, rooster would
live to be about fifteen years. But after he died,
she did a lot of research and real life, he
was basically a broiler what's known as a broiler breed,
and it's as every bit as vulgar as it sounds.
He was, you know, basically bred to be slaughtered and
eaten at age much younger age, and his body couldn't

(01:10:14):
support his couldn't support it much longer. His heart couldn't
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
How old was buddy three?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Agree?

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Is there going to be a new buddy?

Speaker 32 (01:10:23):
You know?

Speaker 37 (01:10:24):
Please don't ask that question too loud, because I don't
want anyone here to hear it. No, I don't think so.
Is this animal was beloved? Believe me, he was loved,
And oddly enough, even the neighbors loved him. I thought
they would call animal control and try to get him
evicted because of his incessant screaming and crowing. But no,
they brought cheese, They stopped and took pictures of him.

(01:10:46):
They would visit with him regularly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Wow. Kind of celebrity.

Speaker 37 (01:10:50):
As Pam has has pointed out herself, you don't just
go out and get a rooster if you're living in suburbia.
But he just kind of happened here, and it was
kind of faith that brought him here. I wouldn't be
surprised if come next year, we ended up with a
couple of hens in the yard and in Buddy's house.
But I don't think you go and seek out a rooster.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Well, it looks like a great book. I'm gonna I
haven't had a chance to read it yet.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Oh it's a page.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
For Judy to finish it here.

Speaker 37 (01:11:16):
I really appreciate it. Appreciate that, Judy, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
We're gonna go ahead and give out ten copies of
it right now. Buddy, How a rooster made me a
family man? The author Brian McGrory, who's joining us right now.
This is another one of those books that is a
best seller. So if your bookstore doesn't have it, or
you head on over to Amazon get it online. But
if your bookstore doesn't have it, ask them to order
it and they'll get it for you. Brian, thank you
so much for joining us today.

Speaker 37 (01:11:41):
I'm really delighted you have me. I really appreciate this. Guys,
thank you very very much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Take care of yourself there, Buddy, thank you, Thank you
to take care by No kind of a strange story there.

Speaker 32 (01:11:50):
I gotta tell you if if a guy that writes
a book about a rooster is the bestseller, and I
have the I have a hit here.

Speaker 22 (01:11:58):
Let me tell you when I when I took my
novel together.

Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
Joey's new book is going to be called How a
hair Blower Changed My Life.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
That's right, you know, I totally understand what he's saying
about how they're born to be slaughtered. That's the same
way with turkeys. Turkeys that are bread and captivity can't
live long lives they're bred to only there only can
survive a few years.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I wonder if I was born to be slaughtered.

Speaker 22 (01:12:23):
Ew boy, there was silence there.

Speaker 9 (01:12:29):
That's funny.

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Okay, I'm shorty. Hello, this is doctor Bull on Animal Radio.
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Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
And now today's really funny story. Innocent bystander. No dogs
could draw it's the Wayne West, Virginia walmart and employees
on a break when a car starts inching towards her.
Instead of screaming and running the other way like I wouldn't.

Speaker 14 (01:14:37):
She assumed the driver maybe was messing with.

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Her until she saw a dog behind the wheel. What
do you think? Thoughtful? Innocent? Bystander, dogs can be your
best friends, and let's say stretching can be your enemy too.
The car crashed into the front of the wal mart.
Another dog in the passenger seat pushed the car window
down to say hi. The owner left her car running.

Speaker 37 (01:14:55):
So her dogs could stay cool while.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
She was shopping.

Speaker 9 (01:14:58):
The dog knocked the car out of park. And bystander,
what's the first thing you think of a car was
coming at you being driven by a dog?

Speaker 16 (01:15:04):
I was last, for sure, And then I'd be like,
oh wow, dogs, stand up?

Speaker 9 (01:15:08):
Am I the only one who would run away?

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Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Hey Ken, how are you doing?

Speaker 19 (01:15:18):
We're doing good? How are you doing this fine day?

Speaker 22 (01:15:20):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Where are you calling from?

Speaker 19 (01:15:22):
Oh? We're calling from Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I love calling. That's my hometown is Colorado?

Speaker 19 (01:15:27):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:15:27):
Whereabout I was born?

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
And raised in Denver, Colorado. Now now I have a
southern draw that I just didn't have thirty seconds ago.
But what's going on, Ken?

Speaker 19 (01:15:38):
Oh? Nothing, you know, I was listening to a driver
last week and I listened to your radio as I'm
normally working on Sunday. I'm a truck driver and I
haven't travels with me, and I hear other dogs, you know,
with trucks out there also. But my main concern is
I have a Cory that runs around with me in

(01:15:59):
my truck, been on the truck for almost three years.
You know. I took them here a couple of weeks
ago to get you know, his check up and everything,
and his enzymes and his liver was a little high,
and the doctor was thinking he ingested something, and I'm like, well,

(01:16:19):
you know, I got him on a pretty good leash
all the time, and he's you know, he's never really
into anything. And we kind of narrowed it down to
once she found out where he is is walking around
truck stops and like rest areas, and there's a lot
of overspray of pesticides in the area that I run,
you know, with farmlands and stuff. And they licked their

(01:16:42):
paws and they actually ingest it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Oh wow, have you ever heard of that, Doctor dinn You.

Speaker 19 (01:16:48):
Know, there's a couple of steps you can do. Is
number one, always watched where you walk your dog, especially
at a truck stop, at the's oil on the ground.
You know, they ingested through that way. It's like getting
a little pair of booties for him.

Speaker 7 (01:17:00):
I was just going to say that would be exactly
the first thing I would do is put little booties
on these guys when you got them out.

Speaker 19 (01:17:05):
Walking, exactly, and especially with the mad chor ride that
they're putting down now with the winter months coming in,
you know, for the ice melt or the salts that
they put down.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
And so as liver enzymes are back to normal.

Speaker 19 (01:17:20):
Now, Yes, everything is back to normal. He's fine. And
I would just love to tell the other drivers out there,
really keep an eye out where you walk your dog.

Speaker 18 (01:17:30):
Doc.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
What about those sanitary wipes that they do for pets
that you can wipe their pause? How effective are good?

Speaker 7 (01:17:37):
Well, it might be something you can try is short
of the booties, but really a lot of times it's
really kind of hosing them off and really getting the
all the particulates and the things off the skin surface
that can be tough and really furry dog foot.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
So it might be something you can try.

Speaker 7 (01:17:52):
And I do have some clients that will do that,
mostly because of not just you know, pesticides and things
like that, but but just environmental allergens. So some dogs
have grass allergies, so coming in from outdoors, you know,
we may wipe their feet down with a damp towel
or with a dry bathwipe or something like that. Yeah,
it depends a bit on our concern level. I'd say

(01:18:12):
for Ken's purposes, gosh, I would be super visial and
I think the booties would be the way to go
when he's out in the kind of unknown areas. But yeah,
some of those sprays they put down for deep vegetation,
you know along the roadsides, you know, they could be
some some interesting stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
I think even at the truck stops there where there's
oil on the ground and anna freeze and all kinds
of crap on the ground from the trucks.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
You got it, You got it.

Speaker 19 (01:18:33):
Yeah, you know, I never thought about that until we
had them test data. And now I'm like, you know,
my dog is walked. You know, we walk basically the
same areas all the time, and but now it's you know,
he's literally.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
In booties and your baby, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
As far as just some of the challenges with with
folks that that truck is that you know, your dog
is going through a lot of environments, so parasites, you know,
definitely a huge concern going across country heart internal parasites
in these different environmental toxins.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
We may not always know what we're going through in
some of the areas.

Speaker 7 (01:19:05):
So I think it does raise some awareness just to
fellow drivers out there to really be vigilant with your
little ones.

Speaker 19 (01:19:13):
Everybody that's ever seen him, I mean, he is the
perfect Corgi, you know, but this dog here, even my
bet is like, wow, he's the healthiest dog I ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
It must because you listen to Animal Radio, you're getting
all these great tips.

Speaker 30 (01:19:26):
Huh hey, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:19:26):
I love it, you know. And I really just discovered
you a couple of weeks ago. Wow, you know, and
I listened to you a while back, but then I
was off the road on the weekends, and now I'm
on the road on the weekends, so I always tend
to tune you in. I think it's a recorded show though.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Well, Sunday's a repeat of the Saturday show, but it's
pretty close to live. I thank you for listening. I
appreciate it, and welcome back, and give your Corgy a
big old hug from all of us here at Animal Radio.
That's all we have time for today. I'll be sure
to check us out on our Facebook page at Animal
Radio or on online at Animal radio dot com. Or
email us all week long at your voice at Animal

(01:20:04):
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links over at Animal radio dot com. We'll catch you

(01:20:26):
next week right here for more Animal Radio on this
fine station. Have a great week.

Speaker 18 (01:20:29):
Bye bye, take care guys.

Speaker 9 (01:20:45):
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