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September 11, 2025 80 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Celebrating our connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio.
Here are your hosts, Hell Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey, hey, my friend, it is Animal Radio. I'm Hal Abrams.
Judy Francis is screening your calls for Doctor Debbie, dog Trainer,
Alan Cable, Dogfather, Joey Volani or animal communicator Joy Turner.
And today, actually Joey Vollani is the bird Father. And
why would that be?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm actually the bird the Birdman of Animal Radio. The Birdman, Yes,
because I'm gonna be telling you the benefits of grooming
and bathing your bird. You know it's funny now I'm
speaking about that because I just seen a documentary and
a Birdman of Alcatraz. And when you watch the movie,
you think he's this nice guy, and you know he
had the birds on the roof and he was a
sick human being that they couldn't even put him in

(00:48):
the showers with the other with the other inmates. So
I don't want to be the Birdman of Animal Radio. Okay,
I changed.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Now you actually put your bird in the sink and
you'll you'll do the whole deal. And I gotta say
this while the scare you Gurney. Gurny, by the way,
is the name of your bird.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
And I have no idea, but I didn't name it Gurney.
Gurney was six years old when when I got Gurny,
So Gurney came with the name. So that's why I
would have never but that name would have never even
crossed my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Doesn't Gurny freaking the shower though.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
No loves it my bird if you're showering, And that's
the big highlight of thinking of my bird's days, because
it's getting in the shower and standing there next to
you as you're showering. The bird loves it and and
loves water in general. If he stands by the sink
and he turned the sink on, he has to he
has to, you know, stick his head down.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
And take a drink. The bird just loves water. Sick.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think it's I think he's a bird fish.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
That's all on the way. We'll find out how to
bathe your bird. And seems to be very important from
the dog the bird father or the birdman of animal radio.
I guess bird father. Just that doesn't sound right, that's
it's not very man, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
I don't want to go down.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Also on the show today, the lady who's put together
the dog tarot cards. We'll have giveaways with these tarot
cards for your dog. I really can't tell you much
more about them until she comes on, because I really
don't know much more about them. Also the trainer who
has trained dogs to drive. You may have seen this video.
That's all on the way right here on Animal Radio

(02:18):
and Stacey, of course, what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (02:20):
You know a lot of actors and actresses get into
different marketing things besides just acting. It's a great way
to make money. They use their celebrity status and they
have a product that catches on Paris. Hilton she's got
five billion products. Paul Newman, he's no longer with us,
but he's got salad dressing, at least his relatives do,
and they're fighting over who owns it. And then Catherine Heigel,

(02:42):
she's got a new product, and she's got a bunch
of products. I'll tell you what they are coming up
on Animal Radio News.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Let's hit the phones. Pee Jan, welcome to the show. Hi,
I have doctor Debbie right here. What's up?

Speaker 7 (02:55):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (02:56):
I have a six year old version Hi, and she
will not come to her name what's her name?

Speaker 9 (03:04):
Her name is?

Speaker 8 (03:04):
I call her sugar baby because it's actually how it is.

Speaker 10 (03:10):
She doesn't like the name.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
O the animal communicator Joyce that says that she doesn't
like the name. Well, she's like, oh too bad.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
Well you know I have to doesn't answer to anything
anything else.

Speaker 9 (03:23):
And I know she.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
Can hear because it's loud sounds and the doorbell and
all that, and she runs, but she will not come
to anything that I call her attention is a shaker
with tree sinnek nissa.

Speaker 11 (03:36):
There you go, there you go, You just hit up
on it.

Speaker 12 (03:39):
Cats don't respond and listen like a dog does. So
you know that there's an old saying that dogs will
come when they're called, and cats will ask you to
leave a message.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
And it is so true.

Speaker 11 (03:51):
It is so true.

Speaker 12 (03:52):
Cats have to have a motivation because naturally they're just
kind of that kind of critter that we hang back
and say what you want me to do? So we
need to motivate or now Enjoy has just said, you know,
if she doesn't care for the name, that's the other thing.
So some general tips when you name a pet, whether
it's a dog or cat, we want to keep it short,

(04:12):
so we want to have one to two syllables. You
don't want to make it a very long drawn out name.
In preferably we try to end the name on a vowel,
especially because that makes our voice kind of rise at
the end. So we say frisky, we say baby, and
your voice goes up and it helps to kind of

(04:34):
keep their attention while you're calling them. And then we
also want to make sure you don't want to use
anything that sounds like people's names in the homes, or any.

Speaker 11 (04:41):
Bad words or anything else where it might sound like
a command.

Speaker 12 (04:45):
So in a cat you have a special situation because
you have to get over this hurdle of motivation. And
most things in the cat world rely and circulate around food,
so that is the great motivator for cats. And I
would encourage you if it's important for you for the
cat to come when you're calling, then you work towards

(05:06):
that by using food rewards, and preferably that is done
where you limit the amount of actual food that's available
at that time. So you don't want a cat that
can go up to the food bowl grays and say, ah,
thank you, I'm quite full right now.

Speaker 11 (05:20):
I don't really want to perform, so you cut back a.

Speaker 12 (05:23):
Little bit on the food or preferably do this little
play sessions, training sessions before you put that food down,
and then use your command come started off with her name,
hopefully something cute like.

Speaker 11 (05:37):
Baby, snooky or whatever, and.

Speaker 12 (05:41):
Yeah, okay, and then use the command and give the
food reward afterwards. And it's it takes a lot of
time for cats to get this compared to dogs, just
because you know they kind of lose interest.

Speaker 11 (05:52):
But you want to make sure you pair it with food.
Pair it with food, and.

Speaker 12 (05:55):
Preferably something really yummy tasty. Those treats that you wouldn't
give normally you give when you want to work with
her and her name, and you can. You can even
do clicker training for accounts, believe it or not, if
if you work on it.

Speaker 11 (06:08):
But I think I want to go back to Joy,
and uh, you know.

Speaker 12 (06:11):
Maybe this count Joy does she have a suggestion on
what she wants her name to be.

Speaker 10 (06:16):
Well, she wouldn't mind the baby thing, but she wants
something that's a little dignified. The other thing she's really
wanting is she wants you to understand that she is
not your servant, so she's not going to come at
your beck and call you are her servants.

Speaker 11 (06:31):
You have to remember that.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
That's it.

Speaker 10 (06:35):
And she says, if you do give her something that's
motivational enough for her, in other words, a big enough
reason in her mind that she should come toward you,
she will do that. But don't expect it unless it's
a real good thing in it for her.

Speaker 9 (06:50):
Well, that's the truth.

Speaker 8 (06:51):
And I don't give her many what I've done and
substitute a treat for a different.

Speaker 9 (06:58):
I have a better cat foods. She won't eat.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
Can went she only and she's a grazier, so she
doesn't eat a lot at a time. And I do
substitute a different cat food, the kebbles instead a treat,
because I end up giving her too many, and so
she loves them.

Speaker 9 (07:21):
She thinks they're a treat.

Speaker 8 (07:22):
So I just put in the little shaker and shake
it and she comes. That's her motivation. That's all that
she's looking for.

Speaker 10 (07:30):
That's all she's looking for is a reason to come
and not to feel like she has to respond just
because you said so.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
Uh huh oh okay, good luck with that.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
We have four cats in the studio, and one of
them actually comes for its medicine. We can call. We
can actually let the cat outdoors and call it to
come like a dog. But then the other cats they
wouldn't give us the time of day on the bed.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
Yeah, good look, I know my daughter's got a couple
of cats and they all.

Speaker 9 (07:55):
Come to their name.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, she's lucky. She's lucky. Can well, hopefully you can
work this out. Let us know how it works out.
We're curious to find out if Doctor W's advice really
works or not.

Speaker 13 (08:07):
Hell con.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Take care of course it does. She is our vet,
by the way. You trust her implicitly with your animals.

Speaker 14 (08:18):
You're listening to Animal Radio.

Speaker 13 (08:27):
Hey, Animal Radio, it's Vinnie Penn, your party animal coming
at you yet again. If you were paying attention to
the last episode's party Animal installment, you know we're doing
We're getting a little art house here, got a subtitle going.
We're doing the Cruiser chronicles. Cruiser is my mini Schnauzer
of my youth that I had. He ran the show,

(08:51):
He ran the penhousehold for over ten years. I was
telling a story and last installment about Cruiser eating about
thirty pounds worth of chocolate probably and surviving. And now
I've got an even better Cruiser story for you all,
although it does start on a somber no. I just

(09:12):
let you know. Recently, my older sister called me an
old friend of my mother's had passed away. Hadn't seen
her in ages, and she said, you know, we should
pay our respects. We should go to the wake. And
went to the wake, of course, to pay respects. Really,
I hadn't seen her in ages since the nineties. When
we were leaving, my sister said, gee, when was the

(09:32):
last time you saw her. I've been seeing her around lately.
You probably haven't seen her in a million years, I said, Laura, Laurie,
I haven't. And I started thinking about the last time
I saw her, and it was actually and we were
in hysterics, which you never feel good about being in
hysterics on the way home from a wake. I mean,
there's at least a slipper of guilt. But nonetheless, I said, gee,

(09:52):
I remember what it was. She had come to the house,
she was visiting mom, and while she was visiting Mom,
Cruiser took a dump.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
In her pocketbook.

Speaker 13 (10:02):
Even kidding you of the sick part is she didn't
even realize. We always said that Cruiser acted like his
crap didn't stink. You know the old saying, yeah, you
act like your crap doesn't stink.

Speaker 15 (10:16):
Well, Cruisers evidently day he acted that way, and it
was because it didn't because she made it all the
way out to her car, God rest her soul without
knowing there were two dog turns in her pocketbook. I
don't know if Cruiser was sending a message, if there
was something in the pocketbook that had made him feel
as if this was the perfect spot. Maybe he just

(10:38):
felt like she was a she would she'd take it
outside for him.

Speaker 13 (10:44):
Who knows? Only Cruiser knows. But inadvertently this gives me
an idea the doggie poop pocketbook. I got a lot
of money out of that. Well I need is a distributor,
Vinnie Penn Animal Radio.

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Speaker 14 (13:00):
You're listening to Animal Radio. Here's Alan Judy. We have
Violet on the phone.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
High Violet.

Speaker 9 (13:05):
Hi, are you good?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
What's going on in your world? Oh?

Speaker 20 (13:09):
Just working at Poocha's playground. But I have a client
that has the troubles with one of their dogs. His
name is Poppy. He's actually they say he's I believe
he's multi poo and poodle. Okay, what's happening is he's
way overweight. He came from the dogtown. He has bad
disability things. You have to put boundaries up because if not,

(13:30):
he gets under somewhere he'll bite you.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Oh wow.

Speaker 20 (13:34):
He also has a lot of allergies going on. He's
been coming in every two weeks. I give him a
bath and it's an ELFI vibe type of bath. More
stuff it's like from the doctors and stuff. He's got
ear infections. He's got down where his stomach area is
all Christy, all everything. And after I get done with him,
he's all nice and clean, but it's a little red.

(13:56):
And then I put some quarterzone on him, which is
from the doctor. But the problem is he's going home
and he's peeing in his living room on a hardware floor.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Okay, I told him he.

Speaker 20 (14:09):
Had to start putting him in a kennel. At first
he thought.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
It was the other dog.

Speaker 21 (14:12):
I said, go.

Speaker 20 (14:13):
Ahead and put one in a kennel and see which
one it is first. Well we found out who it was.
It was Puffy. Okay, so Lenda Puffy when he could
be cool, you can put him in the kennel. And
then when you come right back out, he doesn't want
to go outside. It's the doggy door. He's scared to
go out. And then he weighs about fifty pounds.

Speaker 11 (14:33):
Wow, that's a big multipoof.

Speaker 20 (14:36):
He looks like a walworst. I could tell you that much.
Not a very nice wallworst. Okay, we're having a lot
of troubles. I think he's got behavior problems. He needs
on some meds, like you know, Pearls.

Speaker 12 (14:50):
Okay, let you sound like you're really, you know, an
advocate for puppies to health here, and I definitely appreciate that,
and I hope the owners have that scene enthusiasm for
trying to help him out, because it does sound like
we've got a couple things.

Speaker 20 (15:04):
Give them back over there, but I'm trying to help
him to start all over again.

Speaker 12 (15:10):
So the owners are thinking of giving the dog back
to the pound? Yeah okay, oh wow, Okay, Well, a
couple things first and foremost, and the owners may not
want to hear this from a veterinarian, but as far
as if I have a grossly overweight dog, one of
the first things that I want to do before we
talk about trying to get that weight in line is
to make sure we've screened them.

Speaker 11 (15:29):
For a thyroid problem.

Speaker 12 (15:31):
The extra reason that I would recommend that for Puffy
is because you're describing a lot of skin problems and
sometimes pets with thyroid disorders can also have an increased
propensity for skin disease so.

Speaker 11 (15:43):
Frequently, but he doesn't have that all right.

Speaker 12 (15:47):
And then the other thing is with a urination problem. Also,
I always look at to the side to make sure
we don't have something medically going on.

Speaker 11 (15:55):
So if they.

Speaker 12 (15:56):
Haven't had his urine checked, that's going to be one
thing I definitely want to do, especially if he's on
any kind of cortizone or other medications, then that definitely
can affect his.

Speaker 11 (16:04):
Ability to hold his urine.

Speaker 12 (16:06):
So make sure that the medical part of his health
is taken care of, you know, before we start talking
about how we're going to manage, you know, behaviorally, create training,
because you can create train a dog that's got a
urinary tract infection. You're going to bang your head up
against the wall and not to mention, you're going to
mistreating something that's making the pet uncomfortable. And they may
just be trying to tell us in some physical way
because they can't tell us verbally.

Speaker 20 (16:28):
So now, so I think about what you said, he
took him to the ved, it's it's not a urino
infection because when he left, puffy out he peed right
in front of them.

Speaker 11 (16:39):
Well that doesn't that doesn't mean it's not an infection.

Speaker 12 (16:41):
So I mean if they did have a urine test
done and that's been analyzed, then then that's a different
kind of thing.

Speaker 11 (16:47):
But you know, sometimes it could.

Speaker 12 (16:49):
Be a behavioral or a medical problem that will cause
a dog to do that. So so I don't know
that that makes a case for me, now does he
need behavior mends? And maybe in my office we might
go there, but I think we've got I would want
to make sure that I've done everything that I can
to make sure we're not missing, you know, something medically
going on with him.

Speaker 20 (17:06):
Yeah, that's what I was worried about too.

Speaker 11 (17:09):
So, Yeah, and there's a lot of game to be.

Speaker 20 (17:11):
So extensive because of medical problems.

Speaker 11 (17:14):
Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 12 (17:15):
And you know what, unfortunately, you know, there's some folks
that are just made to be the parents of difficult
to manage or medically challenged dogs. There are definitely some
people that aren't on board for that. So and that's
where it's tough because you know, you have all the
great intention as a war in the world, but if
his parents don't have that motivation, you can't make that

(17:36):
for him. And I don't think we can make necessarily
all these problems really simple for them to deal.

Speaker 20 (17:41):
Really doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 22 (17:42):
So Violet, you know the owner, and what is the
owner willing to do, really willing to do to help
his stock.

Speaker 20 (17:50):
Wants to keep him, but yet he's he's worried at
it's going to be costly after a while.

Speaker 22 (17:55):
Why does he feed him too much? That's the simplest solution,
the simplest thing to work on from the start is
to feed the dog less. And yet you tell, you
tell us he refuses to do that.

Speaker 20 (18:05):
I could tell because it's okay his sister I take
care of her multipoos and they come in here maltese,
and I can tell because they tolly overfeed them.

Speaker 22 (18:15):
Well, we know what to do, and you know what
to do, Violet, but if the owner is not willing
to do it, you really can't help this owner.

Speaker 10 (18:21):
You know.

Speaker 22 (18:21):
That's what's so sad is that people feel guilty when
they when they're feeding their dog lesser, when they're giving
their dogs structure and rules.

Speaker 23 (18:29):
They think it's mean and a reality it's it's saying, oh.

Speaker 20 (18:32):
My god, yeah, because he looks up puffy and Puffy
is a real puffy, you know, And I.

Speaker 24 (18:38):
Looked at him.

Speaker 20 (18:39):
I'm like, dude, you're too heavy.

Speaker 11 (18:41):
Alan's right, you know, he's got to embrace this, this
whole approach that we're not going to have a quick fix.

Speaker 12 (18:46):
So no, that is not going to give you a
pill to fix the behavioral problems. Well, we've got a
lot of other things going on with this baby. You know,
he may be having a lot of other issues that
we really need to address.

Speaker 11 (18:55):
So you know, what about the idea of Violet? I mean,
you sound like you really care about him.

Speaker 12 (18:59):
What about you know, if his family doesn't want to
take on this challenge?

Speaker 11 (19:04):
What you sound like a great mom or even maybe.

Speaker 23 (19:06):
A fluster fan.

Speaker 20 (19:07):
I can't do anymore. I have violence takes away and
I had seven but she had cancer. But the doctor
told me she's only at least two and a half weeks,
and here she was for eight and a half.

Speaker 23 (19:21):
You're awesome, Violet.

Speaker 22 (19:22):
Hey, Violet, do you think it would be possible to
have the owner himself call us up?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (19:26):
I could get him to do that.

Speaker 23 (19:28):
That would be good, That would be the best thing.

Speaker 20 (19:30):
Yeah, I have him do that because maybe.

Speaker 11 (19:32):
Altogether we can convince him.

Speaker 20 (19:34):
Know what to do. And I think if he hears
it from someone else, sounds like I just tell him
he needs Right now, he's at home cleaning his floors.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, get him to get him to call in. If
you can do that, and we'll we'll give him the
four one. We'll set him straight.

Speaker 14 (19:47):
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Speaker 11 (21:02):
This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
I'm Stacy Cohen for Animal Radio. Elizabeth de Massley's family
is like many in Detroit and across the country. They
live paycheck to paycheck, bills to pay in diapers, to buy.
Sometimes when money gets tight, food for the family's dog, Zoe,
a Boxer bigle mix, it's stretched a little, or she
only gets a hot dog. Well that is until three
months ago. That's when the mother of three learned that

(21:27):
she could get dog food at a community sharing outreach
center in Highland Township. She's visited this center before for
clothing and food for her family. Well, De Maasly has
now gotten free bags of dog food. It keeps her
dog's belly fold. It saves up to about twenty five
dollars extra a month. It's been a huge bonus and
blessing to her family. She said, I wouldn't get rid

(21:48):
of my dog just because I can't afford to feed her.
It's like getting rid of one of your kids. Families
who are struggling financially often don't have enough food to
put on their tables, let alone to buy for their pets,
so they share their food, or worse, surrender or abandon
a beloved dog or cat to a shelter. The Humane
Society of the United States started in a new program
it's called Fill the Bowl Project, where congregations can help

(22:10):
pets in their families just by adding pet food and
supplies to their collection drives. Well, that's an experts agree.
Your dog needs to walk. So what constitutes a good walk. Well, first,
it should be every day, preferably more than once a day.
And it's also imperative to keep your dog on a leash.

Speaker 22 (22:28):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
I was walking my horse and my dog the other day,
just yesterday, actually on the side of the road, and
some guy came by. He had three dogs, big huge,
two Pyrenees dogs and one Golden Retriever. Well, the Golden
Retriever was an older dog. He wasn't on a leash.
She felt like it would just follow him, and the
dog stopped in the middle of the road on this huge,
busy road with big trucks coming by and everything. So

(22:51):
you want to make sure you keep your dogs on
a leash. Also, you know, sometimes your dogs sniff and
you pull one, Well let them sniff because dogs actually
see with their nose, so it makes it more enjoyable
for them, and you can also work on obedience when
you're walking with your dogs. Just carry some treats and
you know you could work on sit, down, heel, etc. Obviously,

(23:12):
it's a great exercise for both you.

Speaker 23 (23:13):
And your dog.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
And that phrase if your dog is fat, you're not
getting enough exercise, it's not far from the truth. And
of course walking enhances the bond between you and your pet.
Bedtime at Catherine Heigel's house can take a little while.
A mom of two daughters and seven other kids of
the four legged variety, she likes to give each one
special attention, so after she puts her girls to bed,

(23:35):
then she does her own nighttime ritual with her dogs.
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Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's Animal Radio. Since the beginning of the show, we
were talking about these dog tarot cards and we're gonna
have something to give away. The phones have been ringing
white hot. Everybody won some of these dog tarot cards.
Let's find out a little more about them. We have
Heidi Shulman, she's the creator of them on with us.

(24:34):
Hi Heidi, Welcome to the show. I've heard this lady before.

Speaker 21 (24:38):
If you'd like to make a call again.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I didn't realize she did that job. Also, that's call.

Speaker 23 (24:43):
She plays hard to get.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I know you hate when I'm on my iPad when
I'm on the show. I got some really cool stuff I.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Just found here.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
What did you find?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Okay, the best and worst cities for raising your dog?
Can anyone guess what the number umber one city in
the United States is for raising your dog?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm gonna guess, uh, Boulder, Colorado?

Speaker 23 (25:07):
No, I would say.

Speaker 22 (25:08):
I would say next the Pacific Northwest, somewhere in the
Pacific Northwest because they allowed dogs almost everywhere.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Do you want to know something? You're right?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Portland, Oregon really is number one and the worst city
to raise your dog in.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Can anyone guess Oh.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's got to be in Jersey. I'm guessing no.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
But but but New Jersey was the next was the
next one where no l A l A l A
was the worst city in the country to raise your dog,
and then Newark, New Jersey was right behind it.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I can't figure that one out. I mean, I would
think that La has a l A is very dog friendly.
I would think, oh, that's.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Very studding to this and and and it was put
together apartments dot com my veterinarian dot com and pet
find the dot com. And what they did was is
they put the dog parks, the places that allow pets
in and the amount of apartments that allow pets and
with the per capita of dogs in those areas, and

(26:05):
these came up the most favorable and the least favorable.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's good to know. Good to know. So the top
city again was Portland and the.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
LA was the worst.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay, we're gonna did you see I'm sorry, I was
just gonna say, we'll post this over at the website
at animal radio dot com. I'm sorry, Ellen, go ahead.

Speaker 23 (26:21):
Did you see the top dog names?

Speaker 7 (26:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I missed that. Max. I guess Max was up there
for the dogs, right I'm guessing.

Speaker 22 (26:27):
Thanks, So yeah, I had it written down, but I'm
poorly prepared as normal, but I will. I will now
tell you the number one two dog names. I'm clicking
two more clicks and were there. The number one dog
name for girl dogs is Bella and for males it
was Max.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
You're right, Bella and Max. It seems like Max comes
in every every year. Do we have her back? Okay, Hi, Heidi,
how are you doing?

Speaker 7 (26:48):
I'm great. How are you guys doing today?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Very good? Tell us about the original dog tarot cards?

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Ah, the original doctor O, So thank you so much
for having me on with the doctor. It's it's a
thirty very colorful cards and a book, a sixty four
page booklet that explains how to use them. It's a
very light oracle. It's we call it a tongue in
joals deck that helps you just understand your pets a
little bit more and have a lot of fun doing
it at the same time.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
So is this a novelty or is it for should
we take this very seriously?

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Well, you know you can take it as you need to.
I get letters actually from people who are tarot card
readers that tell me they're using this to read and
they're doing very well with it. And then I get
letters from people who say this is so much fun.
In fact, I got a letter from a woman the
other day that said she's going to have a dog
Toro party, and I suggested uttering her vacuum cleaner. So

(27:38):
you know, you can take it both ways, you can.
I've gotten insights from it about my dogs. And then
sometimes it's just a lot of fun and the cards
are charming.

Speaker 26 (27:46):
Did you ever do any human tarot cards?

Speaker 7 (27:49):
You know? I love the tarot. I think the symbolism
is absolutely fascinating, and I have done some. I wouldn't
say I'm an expert by any means, but I've taken
inspiration from people who've done tradition miltaro, and I also
ask for their forgiveness in the way I've done the deck.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Well, tell us that's how this works. Can we do that?
Can we do something right now? With Lady Buggers stunt Dog?

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Do you have your dog with you?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
She's right here and she's always She actually screened some
of the calls that are come in for the show.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Now, that is a genius.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
She is a genius. She runs what's her name Ladybug.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Ladybug? And what kind of dog is she?

Speaker 26 (28:22):
She's a Jack Wressell minpin about eight pounds.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Oh, you have your hands full. Sure, What do you
want to know about her?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Why does she always turn around in three circles before
she lays down? This is very confusing for me, and
I'm wondering if I should do this when I get
into bed.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
You'd have to ask your wife. Okay, let me see
what carl I'm going to draw here. We'll just draw
one card here. Okay, we drew the oracle. Now the oracle.
Of course, this is radio. The oracle is a beagle
with gigantic ears.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
And the oracle is very very sensitive to things in
his environment.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
And the oracle asks us, it's about awareness and intuition.
Is there some thing in your immediate environment bothering your dog?
So what this is saying is, look around, see what
it is that your dog needs to be comfortable? And
is that why your dog is Ladybug is going around
in circles to lie down. That's what the oracle is
saying to me. The cards also have a message for humans. Okay,

(29:17):
every time you draw a card, and let me tell
you what the whoops? Let me tell you what the
message is for the oracle. Okay, okay, hold on, we're
in getting here. How old is Ladybug's four mm hm?
So the message the message for humans who draw the
oracle is pay attention to your surroundings and follow your
dog's lead into the realm of vibration. Dogs help those

(29:38):
who help themselves.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Too.

Speaker 7 (29:43):
Let's it's you know, it's it's a cute way to
get to know your dog better. I've always been fascinated
by you know what, and scientists for decades have been
fascinated with how do we communicate with another species? I mean,
it's hard enough to communicate with humans, so I was
fascinated by how do we really know what our dogs
they're thinking? You know, I'm sure you have this with Ladybug.
I've had this with my dogs. They sit there looking

(30:05):
at you with those soulful eyes, and you're thinking, what
are you really thinking? Can you tell me? And you
feel like they're just about to speak, And so then
I thought, well, you know, logic is not helping me
understand this, so I'm going to turn to a little
bit of magic.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
So this is good if our animal communicator Joy Turner
isn't around, you can always have the dog Tarot cards.
I got to mention that I met. I said at
the beginning of the show that we were going to
have you on. We're going to have these giveaways. The
phones have been ringing nonstops, so wonderful. They're doing very well.
Are you surprise?

Speaker 26 (30:36):
Ideas well?

Speaker 7 (30:37):
They are doing very well. My surprise was that Random
House published them. I was a very serious journalist for
many years, and clearly I've given that up. But they
are doing well. You know, you can buy them everywhere.
In Barnes and Noble, which is carrying them nationwide. They're
in the New Age Spirituality section, which is really amusing,

(30:57):
and in other places they're in the pet section. And
I think they're doing well. I mean, we love our dogs,
we want to understand them better, and we want to
feel good about our communication with them, and so these
cards give you insights, and they also give you a
little bit of insight into yourself. You know, we all
need to take inspiration wherever we can find it, whether
it's through a serious oracle or a sign on a

(31:18):
billboard that makes us think about something. And I think
that's why they're doing well. And also they're charming to
look at. They're colorful, their fun and you can just
have a really great evening, you know, on a on
a cold weather day, you know, or even where you
are on a stormy day.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay, well they're very cool and I'm going to give
away ten right now at nine. Yes, oh you keeping
okay nine. If you're not lucky enough to get through,
head on over to your bookstore or Amazon and ask
for the original dog Tarot Divine the Canine mind. Heidi Shulman,
the author or creator of these hidie, thank you so
much for spending time with all much.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
Have a wonderful near and many happy wolfs back at
you there, bye bye.

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Speaker 23 (34:18):
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Speaker 2 (34:19):
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before he comes on the air and see these videos.
Just type in driving dog and let's go to Sonny.
I like that. What a beautiful man. Hi, Sonny?

Speaker 28 (34:33):
Hello, Hello?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
How you doing today?

Speaker 28 (34:36):
Why? Fine? Just relaxing?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
What's going on in your world?

Speaker 28 (34:41):
I've got a cat so like a rag doll cat.
And we've had cats that comes to the window and
a week I've had them all packed up already, but
he has got into a springing over a year now
and he's he's I can't control him. My try stuff
from the from the stores to find out what the
stop him from doing, but it hasn't worked. And I

(35:02):
was wondering what was called why he's doing this?

Speaker 11 (35:05):
Okay, So so far you've tried, you said, taping up the.

Speaker 28 (35:08):
Window covering it, put the windows up so he wouldn't
look outside anymore, okay, because he was getting involved with
this female cat that would come to the door and
just you know, and as I told my wife, look
she's coming through the window and atagonizing. My cat ain't
our cat, and he got really involved with it. He's

(35:28):
never been the same after that. It's been over a year.

Speaker 11 (35:31):
Okay. And is this the only kidy you have? And
does he stay alive?

Speaker 12 (35:35):
I have three.

Speaker 28 (35:36):
Kiaties, but I got one that we just brought in
about six months ago and belost to our friend of
ours and we will all work together and she's on.
He stays with.

Speaker 11 (35:45):
Us now for months now, and then everybody stays inside.

Speaker 28 (35:49):
Now, yes, they're all inside cats.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (35:52):
All right, So Sonny, you have a challenge here because
as long as that that neighborhood.

Speaker 11 (35:57):
Cat is coming around.

Speaker 12 (35:59):
You have an on going stimulus for your kitty, and
everything you try in the inside of the house is
going to be very marginal at improving this because as
long as that cat is there, that stimulus is way
stronger than any kind of obstacle you can put in
the way. So whatever we do, it's got to be
a multi approach. So I definitely like the idea of,

(36:21):
you know, doing things to help your cat from not
seeing the kitty, But I want to start first on
the outside of the house. And I'm not advocating doing
anything that's going.

Speaker 11 (36:29):
To harm this cat.

Speaker 12 (36:30):
So if it's a neighbor's cat, i'd go over there
and say, hey, you know what your cat's coming over.

Speaker 11 (36:34):
I'm having urine spring issues in my house. You know,
just wants you to know maybe you can keep them inside.
That's one one step.

Speaker 12 (36:42):
But there are things that you can put outside that
window to help keep that kitty from choosing to come
by that window, so you may end up.

Speaker 11 (36:50):
In nice weather.

Speaker 12 (36:51):
You can get the motion activated of sprinklers so that
when the electronic eye detects movement, it sprinkles.

Speaker 11 (36:58):
With a sprinkler in the area. That helps to keep
feral cats or outdoor cats away. You can also do this.

Speaker 12 (37:04):
There's canned compressed air units that are also motion activated,
and that's one way to kind of create a invisible
barrier so that that cat won't come around. And I'll
often use cats don't typically like citrus, So you can
take orange peels, lemon peels and kind of sprinkle that
in the area, and that might be kind of a
more natural way to kind of deter the kitty from there.

(37:25):
So that's one thing we got to keep the other
kittie away. The other step is we want to try
a little bit more creative ways to block your cat
from seeing this kitty. And you know, you can close
the drapes, put barriers on the windows, you can put
something that might make it less attractive for your kitty
to go there. So those little plastic runners that you
used to preserve your carpet so you know all the

(37:46):
traffic on it. You flip that upside down and it's
got those little nubs. If you lay that down in
front of the particular area where this is happening, and
that's just one incentive for your kitty not to go there.

Speaker 11 (37:58):
To help keep them away.

Speaker 12 (38:01):
And make sure you do pick up some kidty pheromones,
which are scent hormones that have kind of a calming
effect and do help when we have multiple cat issues
or anxiety issues.

Speaker 28 (38:13):
One of them collars around his neck and he wears
a calm Yeah.

Speaker 11 (38:17):
Yeah, So that's definitely one way those are those are designed.

Speaker 12 (38:21):
And then the other thing is, you know, if hopefully
you have a harmonious vline inside household, but also we
want to make sure you got ample resources so that
anything in a cat's world that they kind of stress
about creates more anxiety and feed some of these bad
behaviors and unpleasant things.

Speaker 11 (38:38):
So what is a cat stress? Cats stress about not
having enough.

Speaker 12 (38:43):
Food sources or water sources or having to walk by
this hallway and have another cat yow at them. So
you want to make sure with four cats that you
have at least a good four litter boxes. I'd prefer
to see five, but we want to have those strategically
around the house and have lots of food and water
sources as well, so that decreases the inside stress with
your social situation, and then hopefully that will also help

(39:05):
with you know, this other cat on the outside. But
that's that's a very overwhelming drive, you know, to want
to hey, say, this is my house, go away from
that window.

Speaker 11 (39:14):
This is what cats do.

Speaker 12 (39:15):
And instead of you know, picking up the phone and
calling or yelling out the window, this is how he's
trying to tell that cat get lost. O. Well, good
luck with that, sonny, and give your kiddies a good
scratch behind the ears for me.

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Okay, I'm shorty, Hello, this is doctor Bull Animal Radio.
You know, take care of the pends and make sure
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Celebrating our connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio.
Here are your hosts hal Abrams and Judy Francis, and your.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Dream team, Doctor Debbie answering your veth medical questions, Dog
trainer Ali Cable with your most flexing dog issue. Your
dog father Joey Bonnie today has become the bird Man
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I'm telling you that right now. He gets in the
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(41:29):
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Speaker 5 (41:48):
Maybe I should I can teach my wife how.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
To drive, I can, you know, maybe one of the
dogs gonna teach that radio connection.

Speaker 22 (41:56):
You know, it would be funny to open up a
driving school with these dogs where the dogs teach people
how to dry.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
There you go, be good movie cameras.

Speaker 26 (42:06):
You go to the DMV to take your driving tests
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Speaker 2 (42:14):
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Speaker 6 (42:16):
Okay? In Sweden they've been given this gift by the Japanese,
which is a robot that will actually calm elderly and
little children down when they get upset about things or
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(42:37):
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Speaker 2 (42:57):
Hey Tom, how are you doing?

Speaker 17 (42:58):
I am a four year old beagle who will not.

Speaker 18 (43:03):
Come to me.

Speaker 23 (43:04):
How long have you had the dog?

Speaker 9 (43:06):
We adapted him about eight months ago.

Speaker 22 (43:10):
So when you say he won't come to you, what
does that mean? I mean he never will come to you.
Does he ever come around you.

Speaker 23 (43:15):
If I have something in my hand, if you have
like food or something, he'll come to you.

Speaker 17 (43:21):
Exactly. I can't get him to come to me when
I say.

Speaker 23 (43:24):
Come, Okay, do you walk him?

Speaker 21 (43:27):
Uh? No?

Speaker 24 (43:28):
Not really?

Speaker 23 (43:29):
Do you praise him?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Like?

Speaker 22 (43:31):
If he does come over to you and you have
something in your hand, what do you do when you
give it to him?

Speaker 23 (43:34):
Do you tell me he's a good dog?

Speaker 9 (43:37):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (43:37):
Yes, okay, start taking walks with I.

Speaker 9 (43:40):
Call him and he does come by chance, then I
give him a lot of praise.

Speaker 22 (43:44):
Does he move away from you when you call him?
Or he just pays no? Attention to you.

Speaker 28 (43:49):
No, he doesn't.

Speaker 9 (43:50):
He just doesn't pay attention.

Speaker 22 (43:52):
Okay, well you have to. You have to become the leader, buddy.
When you feed him, what do you do do you
just put his food down and let him eat it?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Right?

Speaker 23 (43:59):
Okay, Well, don't do that anymore.

Speaker 22 (44:00):
Start doing things that let him know that you're in
charge and that he's not in charge. Because right now
he thinks he's in charge of you. He's the boss
of you. He's he's the leader. So start walking him.
Walk him every couple of days, keep him at your side.
Never let him walk in front, Never let him walk
in the house in front of you. Always go in
the house first. Everybody goes in first, he goes in last.

(44:21):
When you feed him, hold the food for a couple
of seconds, hold the food for about thirty seconds and
look at him.

Speaker 23 (44:26):
Let him know that you're in charge of the food.

Speaker 22 (44:28):
Take a piece of food out and feed it to
him with your hands, and then put the food down.

Speaker 23 (44:32):
Make him stay, don't let him go right at it.
Make him stay a minute or two, and then let
him have the food.

Speaker 22 (44:37):
Make him work for everything that he enjoys and finds pleasurable.
And I don't mean he has to do tricks or anything.
He just has to, you know, have a little bit
of patience. And when you start doing stuff like that,
the dog is going to recognize that you're the leader,
that you're you know you're the you're in charge of
the household, and that you know he is not in charge,
and he'll start coming to you on his own, and

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you'll also be able to get him to come to you.

Speaker 23 (45:00):
Another good technique.

Speaker 22 (45:01):
Just take a leash, you know, and stretch it out
six feet seven feet long so that you're sitting there,
and then ask him to come to you.

Speaker 23 (45:09):
And when he doesn't give.

Speaker 22 (45:09):
It a little a little yank, just a little yank,
you say, come give it a little yank and move
him towards you that way.

Speaker 23 (45:15):
If he doesn't move, just don't don't.

Speaker 22 (45:18):
Get get food and try it with food, and after
a while he's just gonna come to you when you
yank on the leash. And after a while of doing that,
maybe a month or two, you'll be able to do
it without the leash. But taking walks is important and
letting him know that you're in charge, making sure everybody
else follows the rules too.

Speaker 23 (45:33):
Is he allowed on furniture.

Speaker 28 (45:34):
Yeah, I have too.

Speaker 23 (45:36):
Okay, oh you got another dog right now?

Speaker 9 (45:40):
I'm my lazy boy?

Speaker 23 (45:43):
Does does he jump on your lazy boy?

Speaker 17 (45:45):
When I catch him, I get him off as fast
as I can.

Speaker 22 (45:49):
Yep, see he jumps on your lazy He does not
recognize you're in charge of anything right right now?

Speaker 23 (45:53):
Maybe the other dog's in charge.

Speaker 22 (45:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 23 (45:55):
I'd have to be there. But you have to start.

Speaker 22 (45:57):
Being in charge and the dog will start coming to you.
And the best way to start is by taking nice walks.

Speaker 23 (46:03):
With your dog. Don't let him walk in front. Go
he's at your side or behind.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
All right.

Speaker 12 (46:08):
My two Labradors were the most delightful guys to train,
and they're just they're so obedient.

Speaker 11 (46:13):
And then I got my little Boss, my little terrier,
and he did the same thing.

Speaker 12 (46:18):
And we had the biggest challenge getting to him motivated
to listen to us. And I had to recognize that
I couldn't treat him like labrador, I couldn't treat him
like my other dogs. I had to find his motivation
and to will him to do what I wanted to.
So I had to get kind of tough and to
be a tough mom and you know, do all what
you said, but not letting him have food and.

Speaker 11 (46:36):
Going through the door first.

Speaker 12 (46:37):
And it really I had to think of him as
an individual, not as my other dogs.

Speaker 22 (46:41):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense because they're all different,
they all have different personalities and size has a lot
to do with it too.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
It is funny because you say, don't let him go
in the house first.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And it's funny because when they want to go out,
the one runs down.

Speaker 9 (46:55):
To the back door.

Speaker 28 (46:57):
Aggie, which is the bagel.

Speaker 21 (46:58):
Says kind of and waits for me to go down
the stairs.

Speaker 22 (47:02):
No, you take the door, you see. You gotta be
in charge of that too. Take that space by the
door away from them. You go down to the stairs
and move them away from the door with your body.

Speaker 23 (47:12):
Tell them move, move, move, and you make them sit.

Speaker 22 (47:15):
You make them stay until you open the door and
give them permission to go out. These are all things
that let them know that you're the boss, that you're
in charge. When they do things before you without permission,
they're in charge.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Okay, good luck with that.

Speaker 23 (47:28):
I'm gonna give it a try.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Ladies and gentlemen, our dog father, Joey Valani, how you
doing today? Big guy.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
But you know what, today you can call me the
bird father because we're gonna be talking about birds.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Okay, And for people that don't know that are new.
You have you have two birds, you have one bird,
right No, I have one bird right now.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I have an umbrella cockatoo that you know, pretty much
rules the roosts to you, all the dogs, the people,
everything you know, revolves around the bird.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
So the bird has its own orbit, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
It's funny because I got an email from someone as
I was bathing my bird, and I said, you know,
let's let's let's talk about the benefits of bathing your bird.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
And and when I'm talking about bird, I'm not just
talking about parrots.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I'm talking about budgies, I'm talking about canaries, I'm talking
about cockatoos. It's an important process in owning a bird, okay.
Number one, it keeps their plumage in good condition. A
healthy bird when when when you see it an unhealthy bird.
Let's start with that. The feathers are going to be
they're they're gonna look like, the ends are gonna look freed.

(48:36):
It's not gonna look pretty.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Okay. A lot of that is.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
From diet, but it also can be from from not
being clean. Birds like to be cleaned, Okay. Bathing will
soften the dirt on the feathers and the skin, so
it'll help. It'll help them when they clean. So what
they do, birds prune a lot. And you'll see them,
you know, anytime you look at a bird, that's what
they're doing. They're pruning their feathers and and they're peeling
off the casing. They're they're encouraging the new growth of

(49:04):
new feathers to come out. And what happens is when
you when you bathe them, it helps get the dirt off,
It helps keep the dander down, It cleans their skin
so everything comes off a little bit easier for them.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
The other thing is when I and I kind of
just touched on it, it keeps the dander down. Now
that's good for birds themselves, so their health, because a
lot of times they develop respiratory problems when their own
dander is too.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
High and basically stays in that cage area.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
So you want to keep you want to keep them
clean for that and also for someone that has respiratory
problems like myself. I have asthma. Okay, and I developed
asthma from.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
My bird basically.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
And I found out years ago that the cleaner I
kept my bird, the better it is for me.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
I can breathe a lot easier.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
It also, just routine bathing moisturizes the bird skin. Now
everyone's sitting here and they listen to me and say, okay,
smart ass, how am I gonna bathe my bird?

Speaker 5 (49:59):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
The only one that I know that ever bathed their bird.
And you actually put a bird in the sink, right, I.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Put him a sink. He comes in the shower with me.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Birds are social, social pets, so they like if you
have a friendly bird or you know of someone that
because sometimes birds bond with one or two people in
the house, opposted a whole family. The other birds bond
to everyone. Like my bird would go with anybody but
my bird. If you're in the shower, if we have
guests here and the bird goes in the bathroom, the

(50:28):
bird will walk right in.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
The shower and want to shower with you.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Now, most guests don't find that so feeling to be
very honest with you. So what you could do is
just get some distilled water and a missing bottle, you know,
just a regular spray bottle. You would get it in
any any local supermarkets, dollar stores, whatever.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Fill it with the distilled water and spray.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Now, the important thing is is don't spray from the
bottom up. Spray from the top down, almost like it's
imitating how rainfall would be. Because the bird birds feel
more comfortable that way than when it's sprayed in an
unnatural way. It's just not natural for them. So sometimes
they'll get a little bit alarmed and they're not going
to like it. Other birds aren't gonna like that at all.

(51:11):
And they're like a saucer of water. And again, if
you can use the stilled water, because believe it or not,
the chemicals that we have in our tap water is
actually pretty harmful for them. Fluoride and chlorine doesn't, you know,
really react all that well for birds. So people take
their birds in a shower. Shower filters are cheap, they're
very inexpensive.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
You put them on.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
It's actually better for your skin as well, so everyone
actually benefits from it. And never, never, never use any
type of antibacterial soap on your bird.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
And now sometimes your bird may get some.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Grease or something on it whatever, use a dish detergent,
but something that's not antibacteria, because the antibacterial properties in
the soap are actually harmful to your pet, so you
really don't want to use that. Actually they can cause
death in some cases that I've red.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
And the other thing is you can.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Go to your local store and they have bathing products
for birds that are pretty inexpensive if they have alavaro
in it, which also will keep the skin a little
hydrated and and that's actually good for your bird. And
the last thing I want to say is if you're
going to dry your bird, use a pet dry like
the pro at home dryer. And I'm not saying that

(52:21):
because the responsor it's an important thing. Your regular hair
dryer has teflon in it, and teflon is very very
toxic for birds.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Even if you're cooking teflon.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
What you want to do is make sure that your
bird is actually not in the area because the properties
that come off when it's heated actually are very.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Harmful for you for your bird.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
So if you're going to blow dry because you don't
want to air dry, maybe it's a little bit chilly
or something, you want a pet.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Dryer and you'll be safe.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
The bird Father, The bird.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Father this week.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
This week I go you know what. It don't sound
so manly though, So that's just for this week.

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Speaker 2 (54:20):
Wow, that song right there goes back to nineteen eighty seven,
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Speaker 26 (54:27):
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Speaker 2 (54:28):
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your vet medical questions, dog trainer Alan Cable, and of
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Speaker 26 (54:42):
Let's go to line four.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
We have Rick, Hey, Rick, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (54:45):
Yes, Hey, I have a chocolate lab. She's about six
years old and she's got some real flaky skin. We've
taken her into the ved a couple of times and
they put her on pread in his own and my
wife's got some hot spot spray that she's been spraying
on hers got uh tea tree oil and alvir and
it's all natural and stuff, and we've switched her dog food,

(55:08):
but she still gets the slumps and uh, she's losing
some of her hair on her skin is real flaky, okay,
And we don't know what else to do with or
been giving her old meal bats and giving the old
house shampoo on her for quite a while.

Speaker 12 (55:24):
But and with her being flaky, is she flaky all
over or is the flake kind of more like stuck
to her skin and coming off in like patches.

Speaker 9 (55:35):
Yeah, it's coming off into patches.

Speaker 12 (55:37):
You said she you switched the food, And is she
on any kind of flea tick control here?

Speaker 9 (55:46):
Yeah? We give her what is it? I can't even
see the name of her stuff all that we get
it from the vet. What's it?

Speaker 11 (55:53):
Okay?

Speaker 12 (55:54):
It's always hard. I have that all the time where
I'll ask people what food do you feed? And it's
kind of like deer in the headlights are like, oh,
it's the blow bag. It's the one with the little
slash on it.

Speaker 11 (56:04):
So that's okay, all right?

Speaker 12 (56:07):
Well with a labrador, definitely, we have a lot of
different potential causes when we're talking about skin problems. So
the good old seasonal allergies combined with food allergies tend
to be a really big pot of potential causes.

Speaker 11 (56:20):
For that type of problem.

Speaker 12 (56:22):
So you know, some of the things you're doing aren't bad,
and if we're not making headway, then I'd certainly want
to try looking at doing a couple other things there
for any dog with itchiness, hair loss, dry skin. One
of the really natural things that I'm a fan of
doing is supplementing omega fatty acids. So typically these tend
to be the fish oils, so we're not talking about

(56:44):
just taking crisco or pouring vegetable oil on the food.
Those tend to be higher in omega six fatty acids,
So we really need to supplement in dog's diet the
omega threes, which are naturally poor in dog foods. It's
just something we have to add in. So fish oil
would be a great place to start to add that
in to as an oral supplement. And being a labrador,

(57:05):
some of the other common problems that can be linked
with skin disease can be thyroid disorders, So if you
haven't already had this baby's thyroid level checked, that would
be something that I would definitely recommend. Hypothyroidism or an
underactive thyroid can definitely cause problems with hair loss. It
can cause problems with dry skin, even things like weight

(57:27):
gain and gosh, most labradors loved those calories, so they
grab on those calories really well, So that might be
something worthwhile looking into. And in many cases, even if
I don't see them, I'll either do a test for
skin mites or I'll just go ahead and start treating
for mites, especially when we have some chronic problems.

Speaker 11 (57:46):
There are some various types.

Speaker 12 (57:48):
Of mites that can be present and they're not visible
by the naked eye. That can complicate some of these
skin therapies when we're doing this, So that would be
one other thing to consider trying, and then a diet
management And for me, if we can play hardcore tough
love mom and Dad, then that is a great strategy.
When we have a dog that we're worried about the

(58:08):
skin and maybe they have some food allergy, and that
basically is not just simply change in brands of food,
but really working with your veterinarian to find a hypoallergenic diet.
And that means we have to be very super strict
in the household. No treats, no rahydes, no goodies off
of mom and Dad's plate, no even edible supplements, things

(58:30):
like heartworm preventatives, we have to switch to the kind
that don't have flavorings in them. Those type of things
we have to really limit if we're doing a very
serious food trial, and there's different strategies with that.

Speaker 11 (58:42):
We've talked some on the.

Speaker 12 (58:43):
Show before about the hydrolyzed protein diets as well as
the novel protein diets, and there's different schools of thought
with that. But that would be something to also talk
to your veterinarian because that's kind of a two hour
lecture from doctor Debt. But I think that is one
of the things. And actually we know compliance with food
allergy prescriptions. When I give a prescription to someone and say, okay,

(59:05):
I'd like you to follow this hypoallergenic diet. Research shows
that only twenty percent of pet owners can actually do
that because of household situations and also just compliance because
it is tough. So that would be one thing that
if you can do it and you can kind of
put all your efforts into that, that one thing might
make a big difference. So that would be another thing

(59:26):
to really look at for this kid.

Speaker 11 (59:28):
And in some cases, if I do all these things
and we're.

Speaker 12 (59:31):
Still feeling like we're tread and water and we're not
getting ahead of the game. You know, there are veterinary dermatologists.
We have some in our local veterinarian community that we
will look to if we need to do specialized allergy
testing or even just a you know, consultation to give
us some directions.

Speaker 11 (59:48):
So if that's something.

Speaker 12 (59:50):
Where your veterinearian feels like they've kind of taken it
as far as they can, you know, see if that's
an option for you as Well's there's a lot more
that we can do, just depends on on how aggressive
you want to get about getting an answer. I've actually
gone to taking a biopsy sometimes of the pet skin
and we'll find out, oh, that's a hormone related disease.
Oh my gosh, we need to check this dogs for

(01:00:12):
thy ray disorders. We need to check this dog for
a Christians disease. And it gives us a different direction.

Speaker 9 (01:00:17):
It might radish if that was what it was.

Speaker 12 (01:00:19):
Some kinds can, but others can be more of an
immune problem, so it can be an individual problem. Particularly
demodex type mites are not typically contagious in the normal
sense of the word, and it sounds like you're a
man who loves his labs just like a house.

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This is a radio news update.

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
I'm Stacy Cohen four Animal Radio. Well, it turns out
that parrots seemed to be pretty choosy about their music.
According to the Daily Telegraph, scientists have discovered that parrots
have personal tastes in music. Scientists played music to a
pair of African gray parrots and found that the bird's
preferences differed greatly. Doctor Frank Perron, he's of the University

(01:02:22):
of Lincoln. He headed this study, and he says that
both birds enjoyed rock and folk music from artists like
you two Ub forty and Joan Baiez. They even got
into the music, bobbing their heads squawking like they were
singing along when they were playing bach though they became
very relaxed. Meanwhile, they seemed to become distressed when researchers
played electronic dance music. Parn says that's when EDM was

(01:02:45):
played and the birds screamed in a distress scared way.
But they did a second study and the birds were
placed in a cage equipped with a touch screen. They
could play either Scissor Sisters, I Don't feel like Dancing
or Vangelis Well. During the month long experiment, the pair
chose to play the songs a combined fourteen hundred times.
But here's the problem. One bird like Scissor Sisters better,

(01:03:06):
while the other preferred Van Jealous Go Figure. One Swedish
retirement home is getting a new guest. It's a robotic seal.
According to a care trust in Sweden, they brought in
the Japanese bot to help improve the morale of residence.
Barrett Lunstrom, he's the chair of the care trust, says
that the seal has appealing eyes and soft fur which
is pleasant to touch. He added that he hopes it'll

(01:03:27):
bring comfort to elderly people who feel anxious. Link Po
King University is backing up Lundstrom. They say that robotic
seals are more effective in calling people than robotic dogs.
The reason is most people are accustomed to dog's behavior
and when they discovered that the robot dogs aren't real,
then they become disappointed. And because people aren't used to

(01:03:48):
the movement of a seal, it makes the robotic seal
more believable. The university study also found that after children
and the elderly interacted with a robot seal, they became
calmer and more in tune with their surroundings. Prefers the
robot over the real life counterparts. He says, there's no
risk of allergies, and the robot is easier to handle.
He adds, when you put the robot in somebody's lap,

(01:04:09):
it stays there, and I add it doesn't smell like fish,
which is a lot better. Want to get your pet
a modeling or showbiz gig. Here are some tips for
the aspiring pet mamager you want to strike a pose.
Don't spend a fortune on professional photos. Simply snap a
few well lit and clear shots of your dog or cat,
capture their personality, and have them printed in a ten

(01:04:31):
by eight inch format. You also can draft a resume
for your dog or cat, put together a montage of
photos of your pet with different looks, and then some
tricks that they may do, and submit your pets package
to several agencies. Get an agent. You can contact advertising
agencies in your area that will directly work with pet products. However,
an agent will increase your pets shot at stardom, but

(01:04:53):
beware of scams and make sure that you ask each
agency for their terms and conditions up front. Most importantly,
let your pet know about that casting couch thing. I'm
Stacy Cohen. Get more animal breaking news at animal radio
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Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
This has been an animal radio news updates. Get more
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Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
We've been talking all morning about these dogs that are
learning to dry and if you haven't seen the videos
over on YouTube, they've gone viral's type in driving dogs.
It is amazing to see these animals actually driving and
using the stick shift, the blinkers, looking behind them to
see if there's a car in the other lane. And
they're driving these retrofitted mini coopers.

Speaker 26 (01:05:36):
What are they? Superdogs?

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
They are superdogs? And who's the supertrainer behind that? Mark Vetty,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 21 (01:05:42):
Good morning, here are you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Good morning? Yeah? What time is it? Where are we
calling you?

Speaker 21 (01:05:45):
First of all, I Buy'm an Auckland, New Zealand. And
what it must be about nine o'clock here in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Something like that, Sunday Sunday morning.

Speaker 21 (01:05:54):
How is Sunday Sundays?

Speaker 15 (01:05:56):
Great?

Speaker 21 (01:05:57):
You can look forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
You're training these dogs? How many dogs? Are you training
to drive?

Speaker 21 (01:06:03):
Well, we've trained them and so they've trained, they've they've
done the world first and we've trained three. We rescued
them out of out of the Speciates shelter here in Auckland,
with the purpose to demonstrate that dogs out of shelters
as intelligent or more intelligent than any others.

Speaker 23 (01:06:20):
How did you.

Speaker 26 (01:06:20):
Select the dogs that were going to participate in this, Well.

Speaker 21 (01:06:24):
We trained animals for film and television and also an
animal psychologists sorry treat behavior problems and animals. So basically
we used similar criteria to what we use for a
film animal and and but we had six or seven
to choose from, and and really, to be honest, any
one of them could have done it. So so it
was really on the basis of which ones were good

(01:06:47):
and stable under pressure, you know, and when they because
it was we knew there was going to be cameras
and lots of things happening, a bit like a film set.
And yeah, just trainability in terms of food orientation because
we clicked and yes, stability and temperament.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Is there a certain breed that performed better than another breed?

Speaker 21 (01:07:07):
Well, there is in a traditional sense. We tend to
find the breeds that we select for trainability, like the
border colleagues and German shepherds and those kind of breeds
tend to be more trainable. But hybrids, which is what
you invariably get to, will almost always get out of
shelters which are MutS. Basically, there you get what we
call hybrid vigor, you know, which is the benefit of

(01:07:28):
two breeds coming together and you get an extra kind
of a vigor, and that can include trainability. So and
certainly we found that with these guys they were fantastic
to train.

Speaker 23 (01:07:38):
Whose idea was it to do this?

Speaker 21 (01:07:40):
It started out with Many and their agency starting to
do the gag and we started out kind of thinking,
you know, we'll just do I don't know whether you've
seen the Subaru ad and ads like that, where they
basically what we do when we're training film animals is
quite a bit of it's a cheat, you know. You
teach them little bits and pieces and then you edit
it together. Whereas this as the dogs are in the

(01:08:01):
car driving by themselves with no trainer in the car,
we're just communicating with them through an RT through radio.
So to actually get to take it from that stage
to the next stage. They asked me basically in the
early stages that I think I could do it, and
I was stupid enough to say yes, So I just
evolved where it is.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Well, it was so cool.

Speaker 23 (01:08:21):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 28 (01:08:22):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
No, I just wonder if this is going to turn
into a commercial venture. Is there going to be a
commercial behind this? Some company like sob Are they reached
out to you and said, hey, we want to make
a car commercial with the dogs anything like that.

Speaker 21 (01:08:33):
Oh yeah, Well, it's been massive. Actually, we're looks like
we're going to be doing top gear in March. Many
obviously because they initiated the project, so we're kind of
will be going with Many. Many are owned by BMWs,
so between BMW and Many will be hitting down that
track I expect with them. But it's gone so big.
I think we're heading towards ten million views.

Speaker 26 (01:08:55):
Oh now, where are these dogs now? Are they in homes?
Are they with you?

Speaker 21 (01:08:59):
We're just right at the moment in the final stages
of rehoming them or homing them. And one of the
problems is you.

Speaker 26 (01:09:06):
Have to keep your key so locked away if you
do one of these tongues.

Speaker 21 (01:09:10):
They're staying there with their trainers still with me. One
of them is with me, Monty's with me at the moment,
and the other two with their trainers. In fact, to
be honest, they're all at my place at the moment
because evenen else's gone on holiday, and we'll be looking
at the at the final adoption kind of process, but
they'll be, yeah, moving on to the big and better
things as well. So there's lots lots ahead for them

(01:09:31):
and for us, that's for sure.

Speaker 22 (01:09:32):
I so much idolize you. I mean I just watched
the long version of the video and I thought, man,
this guy is so good, and I thought to myself,
just what you said about being dumb enough to take
on the task, was there was there any point in
time when you were doing this that you were afraid
or you had you were just worried that you wouldn't
be able to do it?

Speaker 21 (01:09:51):
Many many points that I mean, we do. We do
do some pretty amazing things. We do the kind of
the Big Nannias, the wolves on that and all the
animals we did the Lord of the Rings and Last
Samurai and all those kind of movies. So you know,
we're up for big challenges. And with my background in
animal psychology as well, I teach and all behavior and

(01:10:12):
learning psychology, and so we use some pretty sophisticated positive
reinforcement techniques that probably aren't necessarily available as the whole
package to many other people in the world. Those we
had the advantage, but there certainly was times when we
transitioned from from the rig.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
To the car.

Speaker 21 (01:10:27):
You know, there's we had some pretty funny moments to know,
when the old exagerator bumped on to full throttling, there's
a trainer chasing the dog down down the run and
cameraman never getting run over. And we do have a
remote controlled cutout and safety break for wealthare reasons, you know,
if something goes wrong. So if we hadn't had that,

(01:10:49):
we might have been we might have been in for
a bit more trouble. But there was a lot of
laughter and a lot of a lot of fun, but
also got a lot of work. Obviously, we were training
three times a day and it was a full on
it's just like a big, full of film project based So.

Speaker 26 (01:11:03):
No people were hurt during the filming of this.

Speaker 21 (01:11:05):
No people were hurt during the film. I'm pleased to say.
There was a few quick.

Speaker 22 (01:11:11):
For all the folks listening right now, are just trying
to teach their dogs basic stuff. What message could you
give folks just trying to teach the dog to give
them their paw or sit or anything like that.

Speaker 21 (01:11:21):
Yeah, well, I mean the quickest method. I mean, you'll
notice all the professional trainers are certainly the better ones
use clicker training. Clicker training is a little clicker is
just a little tool that click makes a click sound,
and it's a promise of a food reward. We call
it a bridge. But it comes from their work with
training dolphins and so on, where your dolphin jumps up,
touches the ball way over there, you blow a whistle.

(01:11:43):
At that point, it knows that it's done the right thing.
When it hears that, comes swimming back and gets the fish.
Same principles as the clicker, and so the clicker speeds
up learning and dogs about ten times. And the reason
that is is it's a consistent stimulus that they can
identify and they're doing something right. And the hardest thing
for a dog or any animal for that manicals we've trained.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Lots of species.

Speaker 21 (01:12:06):
They don't know what you want them to do, obviously,
so the clicker tells them exactly what they want what
you want them to do, and it's a promise for
food awards, so they're going to be working towards doing it.
And once they've got that a few times, they're away.
A really nice book called Don't Shoot the Dog bro
Karen Pryor. As people want to have a wee look
at one of your American trainers. You want to have

(01:12:27):
a look at how to click a train. It's a
great technique. The other thing I'd say is the first
four months of a dog's life is a formative period,
So make if you get one from the shelter. Obviously
you've missed that period, so you're going to see what
dog you get in terms of it sociability and its
ability to deal with life. But if you have the
chance to get a pup, you know, get them at
seven to eight week and spend that next two months

(01:12:50):
really socializing and getting.

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We have Randy.

Speaker 31 (01:15:03):
Randy, Hello, how are you very? I'm doing good. I'm
hoping you guys can help me with my cat problem.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
We are hoping so too.

Speaker 11 (01:15:11):
All right, let's go for it. What do you got
going on there?

Speaker 31 (01:15:14):
We have a I don't know kind of tabby. She's
just a white tabby type of cat. And we've had
her for three and a half years now and she's
always been a great cat. We've never had a problems
with her. However, we got a puppy March of last year,
a little Minni pen and brought her into the family
and ever since she came into the family, our one

(01:15:37):
particular cat, whose name is Pink, likes to pee on everything.
He's in the cat box, but sneaks in the garage
and pee's in the gym bags or the kids toy
fun And it's only she's got the puppy. She on
the puppy no, not yet. No, No, it's only in

(01:15:57):
the garage and mine and my husband's jim bags. Or
if she can't get to the garage since we walk,
it's the garage coming from our house into the garage.
Or if she can't get to the garage, it's only
at nighttime when no one's looking. She'll go in the
kids playroom and she'll pee in their tents.

Speaker 10 (01:16:12):
It's not going to take her long to pee on
your puppy, I'll tell you.

Speaker 11 (01:16:17):
That would be really the signal there.

Speaker 10 (01:16:19):
Okay, you're really not happy with that dog.

Speaker 11 (01:16:22):
You have a dog, and do you have other cats
as well?

Speaker 13 (01:16:24):
We do.

Speaker 31 (01:16:25):
We have two cats, and we have three dogs, and
only the MANI pens the inside dogs. He's inside all
the time. And if only started since she's got.

Speaker 11 (01:16:33):
The wh Okay, how many litter boxes do you have?

Speaker 31 (01:16:37):
We have two litter boxes, and they only seem to
use the ones that we always keep too.

Speaker 11 (01:16:42):
As far as this kitty cat anything else going on?

Speaker 12 (01:16:45):
Are we having any other kinds of aggression issues with
the other kitties?

Speaker 31 (01:16:49):
Sometimes I can hear at night sometimes him growling or
her growling out our other cat.

Speaker 12 (01:16:55):
Okay, so the big causes for cats to urinate in
appropriately are medical causes and be here girl causes. So
my first crusade is always to make sure we're not
missing anything medical. So I would if you have not
taken this kitty to a vet, have her checked out,
get urine sample, make sure all is well in her
urinary world. We can have crossover of behavioral with medical causes,

(01:17:17):
so we really need to make sure we're not missing
that aspect of things. But from there, there is a
lot that we need to address for this kitty. And
when we introduce a dog into a cat household or
vice versa, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:17:28):
We always hope that they're going to get along.

Speaker 12 (01:17:29):
With that old phrase they get along like cats and
dogs sometimes has some serious truth and they're.

Speaker 11 (01:17:35):
Very big differences.

Speaker 12 (01:17:36):
It's kind of like, you know, some women can get
along really well with other females and others. It's just
like oil and water. So my former college roommate, Okay,
won't go there. So let's just say that we need
to work on making this kitty's environment more favorable for her.

Speaker 11 (01:17:55):
Now, dogs things that cats don't like about dogs.

Speaker 12 (01:17:58):
They move fast, they make a lot of noise, and
they disrupt a cat's peaceful world. So for cats that
are having trouble in this situation, I recommend giving a
lot of vertical escape to get away and to be
superior to those dogs, because cats, let's face it, they
need to look down on dogs to say he me
a little dog.

Speaker 11 (01:18:16):
So we want to give those vertical escapes.

Speaker 12 (01:18:18):
Those are cat trees, perches for windows, ways that we
can find a peaceful zone. The other things we need
to do is work on this litter box situation because
we usually want one more litter pan.

Speaker 11 (01:18:29):
Then we do the number of cats in a household,
and that.

Speaker 12 (01:18:32):
Number can increase even if you have other things like
two floor houses if you have cats or dogs that
go in or outside.

Speaker 11 (01:18:41):
We want to have different access points of the home.

Speaker 12 (01:18:44):
So a cat might avoid going to the normal litter
pan if they have to go through a doorway or
an area where say there's noisy children or a dog
that might come chasing after them or annoy them. So
we want to make sure that we have alternate litter
box sites and make those so that they're in a
yat zone or they're away from the path of other
animals and people. And preferably I hate the lids take

(01:19:06):
the lids off the.

Speaker 11 (01:19:06):
Gosh strong letterboxes. Cats do not dig those.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I hope these ideas work for you. And if you
need a follow up, we do follow up. I believe
we're the only radio show that does follow ups.

Speaker 31 (01:19:17):
And well that's good. That would totally help.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Wow, the show just flew by today. Thank you so
much for joining us. Remember you can catch us all
week long over at Animal radio dot com or download
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Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
And we have links to everything you've heard on today's
show over at Animal radio dot com. Have yourself a
great week.

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