Who Gets The Pet In A Divorce?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Celebrating our connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio.
Here are your hostskel Abrams and Judy Francis.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Blah blah blah blah. Those airbags. Hey, we're all here
for doctor Debbie Allen, Cable, dog Father Joey Vallani, and
animal communicator Joey Turner. Any questions about your animals, We're
a lands of them. If we don't have the answer, what, well,
what do we do? Alan We make them up?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, that's we make them up. Yes, we make them
up very well. It sounds official like we know what
we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Oh we don't.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, well, listen on the show today, we have an attorney,
a divorce attorney, who's going to tell us about holding
on to that pet that you have or that you've
had with your spouse for so many years. Apparently, if
you love the pet more than the spouse doesn't mean
you're going to get the pet. And more and more
people are breaking up and losing their pets to custody.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
What if you have a divorce attorney for a pet
and you you know you're married, and you want to
keep them, and you have a fight over the divorce attorney.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Which one gets to keep that. This is a good question.
I hope you'll save it for what is her name,
Sylvia Rosso. I can't read that far.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
I want to ask if you if you got to
pay any type of pet support.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, like go child support? Yeah, yeah, I think And
I'm not sure about this. I think pets are treated
as property in most states, so it's just like divving
up the TV unless you have kids. I think the
pet goes with the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We'll find out on the way. I didn't even want
to begin to talk about that there.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
You know, my husband and I have talked about this.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh and in what in what respect? I thought things
were going okay on the uh you.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
And mister Debbie are having trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
No, but we kind of throw down the gauntlet.

Speaker 7 (01:35):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:35):
It's like Jade was, you know, both of our dogs
when we first got married, and then we added two
more children after and so it's not like when was
present before.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
We got married. So yeah, it might get ugly. We
haven't agreed that anyone's going to take to talk.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Can I just can I just make a suggestion if
it ever comes to that, you leg wrestle them two
out of three falls, because you'll kick his butt.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Thanks.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
And if you're in my corner, awesome, let's be there
for you girl.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Also on their show today, if you have a cat,
you got to cut their nails. Apparently this is something
you need to do occasionally. We're going to tell you
how to do that. Well, Joey Vellani will tell you
how to do that, Stacy, what's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (02:13):
I had no idea. But there is a Hamster Association,
The California Hamster Association is very upset with a very
popular star. And no it's not Richard.

Speaker 10 (02:25):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I knew there was going to be a Richard Geer Joe,
God bless you, Stacy. Let me bow to you. Let's
go to Terry. Hey, Terry, how are you doing?

Speaker 11 (02:36):
Oh? You want me to tell you or tell you
the truth?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I want both? No, no gray area, Okay, Well tell
us the truth.

Speaker 11 (02:43):
Well, I'm sitting in a traffic jam in Louse, Alabama
right now.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh my gosh, my prayers are going out to.

Speaker 12 (02:49):
You, buddy.

Speaker 11 (02:49):
Yeah, I've been in it for over an hour. And
Tuscaloosa is not that big of a town of being
in a traffic jam for over an hour.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, what are you hauling?

Speaker 11 (02:56):
Uh, what have I got to Oh? I got the
caps for liquid tide.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Liquid caps were tiede Oh interesting, I guess.

Speaker 11 (03:03):
The plastic plastic judge the liquid tide goes in.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You never think about this, You must call all kinds
of weird stuff. Do you travel with a dog?

Speaker 11 (03:11):
No? No, I love my dogs too much to put
them in a truck. I don't believe they belong on
a truck. There are those who carry him. But I
don't have ankle tighters either. I've got big dogs.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh okay, I understand that. So do you have problems
with your dog at home? I got Alan cable right here.

Speaker 11 (03:24):
Yeah, I've got old Alan. You doing, buddy, I'm hanging
in there. It's been a fiasco coming out since the
first year. I was on vacation for two weeks and
I didn't get to listen to you guys.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
So where'd you go on vacation?

Speaker 11 (03:37):
I go every year between Christmas and New Year's and
I I go home because trucking during that time of
the year is a waste of time.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, so where's home? Where did you go?

Speaker 11 (03:47):
Yeah? So many customers shut down for inventory because of
the holidays, and I've been fighting for empty traders because
a lot of our customers leave their product on our traders.
Where did you go those count of inventory? You don't
have to pay taxes?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Hey, Terry, where did you go? Where's the vacation for you?

Speaker 11 (04:02):
Home? Right at the house?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I know, but where's home?

Speaker 11 (04:04):
All right? Live in Illinois, start in Illinois?

Speaker 12 (04:07):
Got you? Okay?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
All right? So what's the problem? Buddy?

Speaker 11 (04:09):
Okay? I kind of you kind of started to answering
my question after I called in. You had the lady
calling in with the two poodles. I got two German
shepherds females. I bought his puffs. They were paper trained
when I got them, and we continued that at the house,
and after a while we took them off paper. These
dogs are crowding seven eight years old. I'm not sure.

Speaker 13 (04:26):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (04:27):
Every now and then one or the other of them
will go in the house at night. They're on a
routine during the day. The wife gets up at six
point thirty seven o'clock in the morning, she goes to
work dr out you know that time. She comes home
at noon from twelve to one. They're out at that time.
She's back home by five. But sometimes during the night,
they will go in the living room and one or
the other them we'll go on the carpet. It's easy

(04:48):
to tell which one did it because I've got one
it's stationary Pooper and Peter, and the other one is
a walk in Peeter and Pooper. So it see.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
So let me ask you this side some questions for you.
That spot where the dog goes, is it the same
spot every time?

Speaker 11 (05:03):
Sometimes it's in the same area. But what I have
told her to do is to sprinkle vinegar there because
I hauled livestock for years and I'm like you, I
know you don't clean with ammonia.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know, you know what you gotta do, though, buddy,
you gotta okay, a couple of things. Do you take
their water away? Take their water away when you go
to bed. That's that's number one, because some dogs can
hold it all night and some dogs can't. And the
first thing is to make sure always that there's not
a veterinary problem, a medical problem, because sometimes dogs pee
because they have a you know, they have a kidney
problem or an infection, just like a person, and they

(05:35):
can't tell you. So the first thing you got to
do is make sure there's nothing medically wrong. And once
you eliminate that, take to take a water away at
night and then confine them to a space.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
So get a kiddy gate or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
If you want to keep them in the laundry room
or you want to keep them in the kitchen, confine
them to that space. The third thing is to get
yourself an enzyme cleaner. You can get that at the
pet store and clean that area of the rug real
good so that the scent is not there. Because once
a dog goes in a certain spot, you know he'll
continue to go back to that spot to go because
he doesn't realize he went. He just knows that a

(06:09):
dog is there and urine is there, so he's gonna mark.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
That that spot.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
But the best thing to do is to confine the
dog to us to an area so you don't have
to worry about the dog peeing in your house, and
if she or he does go, it's in that confined area.
And dogs don't like to go where they sleep, so
they only go when they have to go. So again,
first step, go to the vet, make sure everything's okay.
Second step, take her water away at night before you
go to bed. That way she won't drink and get

(06:35):
her bladder full and have to have the urge to go.
And the third step is to confine the dogs to
a space so that you have control over where they are.

Speaker 11 (06:43):
It's not a not an easy task because I've got
six dogs in the house.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh my.

Speaker 14 (06:50):
A vehicle.

Speaker 12 (06:51):
Wow, holy cow, that's a ken on. That's not a house.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
That's a lot of dogs. You got there, my man?

Speaker 11 (06:57):
WHOA Well, I do something. You agree with it too.
I sleep with my dogs when I'm home, So.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Oh no, I don't. I didn't say it.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
See, I don't want people to get the wrong idea
about that, like me and how we always talk about that.
I hate the term expert. I will never tell you
what to do. I just don't do it, that's all.
I just don't do it.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
And my dog Sep, I've done it since I've been
a kid.

Speaker 11 (07:17):
I remember having a puff as a kid and my
mom you always used to sleep with me too. But anyway,
my dogs are rotten. They probably know better than most people.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Whatever works for you, you know, whatever works for you.
But that's the easiest way you can confine those two dogs.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
It's easy.

Speaker 12 (07:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
People have lots of excuses for why they can't do things.
You know which dog is peeing, can find that dog
to the kitchen or to the lawndery room with a
doggie gate, or put the.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Dog in a crate at night.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Now, way you don't have to worry about it, because
you can't teach a dog not to pee in the
house if you're not there.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
And then that's the that's the biggest problem.

Speaker 11 (07:49):
And see the thing is she didn't get to go
home yesterday at lunch and they were locked up for
eight dollars and neither of them to win. I mean,
it's not an ongoing thing, is just periodically every once
in a while thing do it when I'm home because
I let them out more frequent. If I get up
in the middle of the night to go bathroom myself,
you know, I'll automatically.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, you know, you just that's a that's another When
you're home, are you home for long stretches of time,
because that's another thing. Dogs will start peeing in the
house when things change, like if you move, if anything changes,
they get some dogs are sensitive to that. So if
you're home for two weeks and you're gone for two weeks,
you know, the dog might freak out a little bit
because there's nobody in charge. And then they pee in

(08:27):
the house. There's all kinds of little things that can
make it. Dogs start peeing in the house, but it's
easy to stop it. And the easiest way is the
way I told you. Just confine the dog to a space.

Speaker 11 (08:37):
Yeah, because I handle them farm. I mean I'm not
relax with them. I mean they mind better than most kids. Actually, well, I.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Can tell Terry you're tough. I'm scared of you.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Hey, hey, Terry, tell me to do something. Man, I
want to see if I react. Tell me to sit
now I'm laying down.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Scratch my belly, scratch, keep those legs closed.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, I think I think Alan just peede on the floor.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Anyway, Yeah, he Darry, Gosh, you have to confine myself.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Now, how came if something changes in the house the
dogs pee?

Speaker 12 (09:12):
I mean, what is what is that significant to?

Speaker 15 (09:14):
Well?

Speaker 11 (09:14):
Dogs? Nothing really changes. I mean me and my wife,
I've listened to you. I mean we're the two most
laid back people you ever wanted to eat. Most of
my dogs are that way. I got the one German
shepherd that she has to be in a separate room
because she tries to eat the Saint bart and she's
the smallest of the German shepherds.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
You know, Joey, that's a good question. Dogs manifest stress
in different ways. Each dog is different. Every dog has
a unique personality. Some dogs are unfazed by anything, and
some dogs are very sensitive to routine and structure. So
that if you're home every day, or you know, if
you decide to move, you know.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
You can't prepare your dog. You can prepare your kids.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
You can say, hey, kids, we're moving, but your dogs, yes,
it's as night.

Speaker 12 (09:55):
Okay, that's that's that's what that's that's what I was.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
It's an anxiety stress thing. It's that's an anxious stress thing.
And they they will manifest that. Some dogs will choose,
some dogs will pee, some dogs will start jumping on you.
They'll start doing something that they didn't previously do, you know,
because they're nervous and stressed out.

Speaker 11 (10:11):
Well, I don't see that a problem with my dogs, because,
like I said, my wife and I are real laid
back and relaxed and calm, and the dogs are the
same way. I mean, naturally, you know, me being on
the road like him, I'm gone three to four weeks
at a time, and they're spastic when I first come home,
and it takes me about twenty minutes to calm all
six of them down because I've got to give each
one of them, you know, a little bit of attention.
And once you know I've passed myself around, then we

(10:33):
play ball and what have you, and go for walks,
you know, but the wife walks them on a record
basis at night, and you know when she comes home
in that we've got free acres and they we got
a horse and they laughed the acre each and they
chase the Marston side defense and everything. So I've got
the two German shepherds are they're pretty much like sharks.
They never stopped moving. They're afraid if they stop they're
gonna die.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, Terry, you're joined to talk to but I enjoy
when you call, and it's been a pleasure talking to you,
and I wish you may many years of happiness, success
and love. And you're obviously a great dog person, So
thank you so much for that.

Speaker 11 (11:05):
Oh yeah, well, like I said, four out of the fix,
I gotta arrest you. So I've done, my partner.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I appreciate you calling today, Terry.

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Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's Annibal Radio. Just a few minutes, we'll find out
how to cut your cat's nails. Joey says they need
to be done. It's the two person jobs. I gotta
ask Annibal communicator Joey Turner, what do the cats think
when we're cutting their nails? They like it too? They
feel like there it's grooming a spa, or do they
just really want us off?

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Well, I have to say I have a lot of
clients who call me because of this very exact problem.
My kiddies, they're angels. They just lie there in my
lap on their backs. They let me cut their toenails. However,
a lot of the cats I've spoken with, I would
have to actually say most of them absolutely hate it
because to them, you're taking away their defense. It would

(13:41):
be like if somebody needed something to defend themselves and
you decided you were going to be a really wonderful
human being, but you were going to take away their
gun or their knife, or their bone, arrow or or
whatever it may be.

Speaker 12 (13:54):
Okay, I can see that.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
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that you listen with helping you out here.

Speaker 12 (14:00):
So don't scratch to gruma please.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Hey Keith, how you doing?

Speaker 20 (14:05):
Hey?

Speaker 21 (14:05):
Pretty good?

Speaker 20 (14:05):
How you doing good?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Where are you calling from today?

Speaker 22 (14:08):
Actually?

Speaker 21 (14:09):
Mole Pleasant, Iowa. I'm just pulling into a Walmart distribution center.
I'm a truck driver, So we.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Love ourselves some OTR. What's going on with your animal?

Speaker 23 (14:19):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (14:19):
She's thirteen years old, very vibrant. Still, she's a large
border Collie, kind of big bones for a border Collie.
She has hits problems right now, and I'm kind of
worried and wondering what I can do to help her.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Okay, now you're saying she's big bone. So is that
a nice way of saying she's overweight?

Speaker 21 (14:40):
Well, no, no, no, she's you know, for a border Collie.
Her prime way when she was young or she came
off of cattle farm in Texas is sixty pounds for
a female.

Speaker 11 (14:50):
That's large for a border collie.

Speaker 21 (14:52):
The males generally ran around seventy pounds.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
Okay, I'm just giving you a grief here, Keith. But
you know, definitely, weight management isumber one thing that the
head owners can do that you can control to make
sure your pets are having the best mobility they can.
So if she's in good weight, perfect, but if you know,
for other dogs that might not be in good weight,
before I go to drugs and medicines, I'm going to really.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Push to get weight loss because that's that's the number
one thing.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
So are you currently using any remedies, any supplements anything
for her at this time?

Speaker 21 (15:24):
You know, I mean not three of the glucose means
stuff at her. I was just more wondering, like do
that because she's thirteen. She was a frisbee doll of
all her life, jumping up and down, and you know,
I mean it's seven that the doc told me that
she was gonna have hit problems, and I'm just wondering
if there's any She's having a real hard time getting

(15:44):
up and down all the time. Now, yes, there's anything
I can do to alleviate the pain. The wave is
under control, that she's still in pain.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Okay, well you know yeah in her age group.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
I'll tell you, I have a thirteen and a half
year old lab and I'm going through the same thing.
And it depends a bit on the degree of discomfort
that we're having. If we're getting slow getting up and down,
there's a little bit more effort to her movements. Dogs
aren't going to cry, so I'm not looking for that.
I'm looking for the slow, purposeful movements that they do.
And if we're seeing that that I may just add

(16:17):
in one medication. I may try something as simple as
a joint support with a pain medicine. My own dog,
I'll tell you right now, I have around five different things.
Because we're losing function, we're losing the benefit of these
different medicines, so we'll need to find a spot for
your dog somewhere within that. I'm assuming, so joint support
absolutely put her on a glucosamine product, and even Beyond that,

(16:41):
there's hyaluronic acid supplements that can be given in the
injection form or even in the liquid form. There's one
called Luberson that we talk about on the show quite
a bit, so that can help.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
It's a low level thing, so it's not going to.

Speaker 8 (16:53):
Help that has really horrible arsridic hips and be the
only thing that's going to fix that.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
So we're going to add in other things.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
My own dog, I have on tramadol, which is in
opioid like pain medicine, which is very nice because it
has low side effects and it's tolerated really well. And
then I added in a non steroidal pain reliever for
my dog, and there's many out there. You'll need to
talk to your vet about this, make sure that she's healthy,
she's got recent lab work. But a non steroidal pain

(17:23):
reliever is really important for a dog that's got a
lot of arthritic problems, a lot of joint discomfort. There's
only so far that supplements will go for those babies,
and that's where my doggie's at. And then beyond that,
I'll even add in there's a medicine called Gaba Penton
and I just recently added that to my dog's regimen

(17:43):
and it's really helped her quite a bit. But that's
where we kind of build upon this, and it's what
we call multi modal pain management. So one medicine doesn't
stop pain enough in many older pets, so we have
to kind of dabble in different pathways to try to
relieve their discomfort and to help them move. And so
if you're new to starting something with her, I'm not

(18:05):
advocating trying five things like my dog, but I would
definitely see about getting into something that's maybe well tolerated
like Pramo doll or gap a penton, and then see
about a nonsteroidal with your vet.

Speaker 21 (18:18):
I appreciate that. Do they make like a quarter zone
injections when it gets you know, I mean down the road?
I mean yeah, eventually quality of lives is going to
come down to where she will have to be put
down to understand that. But I mean she's just so
full of life, you know, I don't see that happening
in the next five years.

Speaker 8 (18:37):
Yeah, I know exactly. I'm going through the exact same things.
You know, the tails wagon, the jump in and the
running for balls is still going on. So for cortizone injections.
They're really not the best thing when we're talking about
managing pain. We can if there's a particular joint, we'll
sometimes give it an intra articular injection of cortizone, kind
of like people. But if we're not doing those other

(19:00):
steps that I've mentioned, that would be my first line
therapy that I would try.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
That now I have looked.

Speaker 8 (19:05):
Into, and believe it or not, they actually do stem
cell therapy for dogs with hip displasia and arthritis. So
that's something, but it's a little bit more of a
surgical procedure and probably not you know, routine use for
you know, the average pet owner.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
But and it sounds like your baby's probably.

Speaker 8 (19:22):
Not a strong candidate for some of the surgeries that
we might get into, like a hip replacement or another
hip surgery called an FHO.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Those are some very useful surgeries.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
For pets that when we're trying to manage that hip displasion,
they just can't control it with the medications alone. But yeah,
you'd have to weigh that when a thirteen year old doggie,
whether you want to get into the surgery.

Speaker 21 (19:44):
Wow, very much appreciate your I'll look into innermodal pain management.
You were talking about about that. I appreciate your input.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Okay, thanks for the call, Keith, and have a good one.

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I'm Stacey Cohen for Animal Radio. Well cat ladies all
over the United States better pay attention to this. Residents
in Wellington, Kansas, now have a limit on the number
of cats that people can own. As of January first,
households in Wellington are only allowed to have a total
of four cats. Previously, they had no limit on the
number of cats that somebody could own, and the measure

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was a reaction to the increasing number of stray cats
that were picked up by city officials. Wellington Police Chief
Tracy Heath told the Wellington Daily News that as of
November twenty twelve, the city picked up two hundred and
thirty one stray cats. Eighty seven percent of those cats
had to be euthanized. Officials that did German Zoo are
happy to say that dancing days are here again for

(21:53):
one of their gorillas. A spokeswoman for the Criffield Zoo
says Kidago, a twelve year old silver back guerrilla, was
feeding a little homesick after he moved to the facility
from Denmark back in April, but they say the talented
ape has adjusted to his new home and is ready
to show off his rope dancing moves just in time
for the Zoos seventy to fifty anniversary celebration. According to

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The Daily Mail, trainers discovered Kidogo's talent when they added
a rope to his enclosure. They thought it would just
give him something else to hang on to, but they
were amazed he decided to walk across it instead. Who
knew a tight roping gorilla. A New Year's Eve event
in a small western North Carolina town will no longer
be able to use a live possum as part of

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their festivities. Residents of Brasstown would welcome the new year
in part by lowering a live possum trapped in a
clear box. Well, you can imagine what Pete did. They
got upset. They sued the state's Wildlife Resources Commission, which
had issued a permit for the event. A judge ruled
in Pete's favor. Now the organizer may use a stuff
possum or one that's roadkill instead. Nice. I'm Stacey Cohen

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So we're going to be eating the live.

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You're listening to Animal Radio. Here's Alan Judy.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's Animal Radio. I think we're having more fun in
the studio than allowed by law. And there's more animals
in here today than I ever recalled.

Speaker 10 (23:49):
You know, I got a cat on my lap.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
What's that about? I know, maybe she's hungry or something
like that. Coming up next hour, we'll talk to a
lawyer who I guess one of her big deals in
her practice is that she deals with custody of animals
or who gets the dog, who gets the cat, which
is always messy.

Speaker 12 (24:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
I've been pulled into that too.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
It gets well, you know, someone wanted me to speak
on their behalf for the one spouse, but I had
actually been treating veterinarian for both of them, so it
really put me in a tough spot. But yeah, and
then I've had folks where their custody required they dropped
the dog off at the vets, and then the other
spouse picked it up, so we were kind of the
goopy Wow.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
So it can be very difficult.

Speaker 10 (24:31):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Okay, well I can't wait. We'll find out more in
just a little while. It makes me wonder if I
should have signed a prenup or something like that. I
couldn't imagine not living with my animals, definitely without my wife.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Yeah, I was waiting for that one.

Speaker 10 (24:46):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Let's see we have on the phone with us Robert
samro who's the author of Life is Perfect paw Fect,
which is a great but I'm just checking your hand.
I'm just cracking it open for the first time I've
seen it today and has a lot of great pictures.
Robert is an amazing photographer as well as a videographer,
and he did a little segment on Animal Radio a
couple months back, which you can check out over at

(25:09):
Animal radio dot com. Robert, welcome to the show.

Speaker 14 (25:12):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 13 (25:13):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I want to talk about taking pictures of our animals,
but first let's talk about your book, which includes a
lot of strange pictures, mostly with dogs in clothes. Now,
do dogs like to get dressed?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Up for this.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Are there some dogs that you find really enjoy it
their hands for the camera. How do you get that
perfect picture? I mean, these are amazing. I'm going to
hold it up to the microphone so people can see
some of these pictures here.

Speaker 14 (25:36):
Well, that's great. They can also see him at life
ispofc dot com. But that's a great question. How you
know these are just normal everyday dogs. These aren't model
dogs that are in the book. And what we did
is we built out these wonderful scenes and themes and
instead of putting kids into them, we dressed up the dogs.
And you would be surprised how many dogs actually enjoy

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And we have a clear rule at our studio. If
the dog's not enjoying it, you're not going to get
a great picture. And there's no sense in putting any
animal through that.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
Do people request certain settings or do you just decide
what fits the dog best.

Speaker 14 (26:15):
Well, what we do is weekly we change up our
scenes and our themes. So literally one weekend we might
be doing an ocean theme and the next one we
might be doing our sushi chef scene, if you will,
So we have a look on every week. It's something new,
it's something different, and we try and keep it fresh
because frankly, as a creative person, I need that creativity

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to constantly be moving forward as well.

Speaker 8 (26:40):
So do you have repeat visitors, you know, so if
someone will bring their dog one month and then bring
them another month just because they want to get that
variety of.

Speaker 15 (26:46):
Photos, Oh, we have.

Speaker 14 (26:49):
I love it. I come from the music world, and
we certainly have our groupies for the potographer there are.
It's unbelievable how many customers we do have. The areas
from which they'll travel from to attend a new scene
that we're doing that they haven't been a part of before.
They definitely they treasure it. I mean, these animals are

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their children and are a true family member, and I
love it. If they're enjoying it, their pets are enjoying it,
and it really makes it. It's almost as fun as
you guys are having in the studio.

Speaker 10 (27:24):
What a great keepsake to have your pet in a
setting like that.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Is there any photoshop going on? I got to ask
that right on this book.

Speaker 14 (27:31):
Oh, absolutely, Well, we don't photoshop the outfits onto the animals, okay,
but certainly when you look at things like our scuba
dog We're not going to put a dog underwater with
a scuba tank, as much as it might intrigue me
to do. But we have a number of scenes where
whenever water's involved, you'd have to get that one shot

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and then the minute the dog was wet, you know,
we're not going to run them through a dryer to
get them for a second shot. So we certainly, you know,
take advantage of the technology, but we're not reliant on it.
The best photos we get are those natural shots, and
that's why you'll see in some of the photos it's
not a perfect photo if you will, or it hasn't

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been photoshopped perfection, because that's not what the beauty of
the photo was. The beauty was that pet being there
in that moment.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I don't understand where you find all these outfits like
the YMCA one with the little dog kind of dog?

Speaker 12 (28:29):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Jack Russell in a tool belt with tools or the
little hard hat? I mean, where do you find that
kind of stuff?

Speaker 14 (28:37):
Well, we you know, we've been doing. I started off
collecting these many many years ago, and the outfits will
adapt them. There are plenty of great pet fashion companies
out there now that are creating more pet fashion for
the animals, so that's been an advantage as well. But
a lot of times, a lot of what you see

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is something that we took that was maybe set up
for a child, and we adapted it.

Speaker 10 (29:02):
And work for animals, even dog clothes.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, I encourage listeners to pick up life is Perfect
paw Fect. The website is www dotpotographer dot com if
you want to learn more. Now, I got to ask
some questions about taking pictures of our animals because sometimes
I have one dog that is not really photogenic, and
I have a cat who just loves to be in

(29:26):
the camp in front of the camera. Can you give
me some tips on how I can take some really
good pictures with these guys?

Speaker 14 (29:31):
Absolutely? Absolutely. The first thing is don't always try and
do it yourself. I tell this to everybody. My dogs
when I try and photograph them, have the same reaction
that your dogs do. And that is the minute you
go down to their level, which is the point of
view that most of us want to catch, that's a
sign for them to come to you that you want

(29:51):
to engage them and play with them exactly. And so
the dog goes to you and you get a little
frustrated Oh, it was going to be so perfect. Why'd
you move? They moved because that's what they've been trained
and signaled to do for so many years. So I
would suggest grabbing a friend and having them take the
actual photo while you're there to make your animal comfortable.

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That friend can actually photograph them in a more natural state.
And that's really that secret that every goes. What's the
secret to your success? Patience? And I'm not the owner's animal.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Do you use any tools like a laser toy? It
seems like on the front picture of life is perfect
that there's a little red dot that looks like a
laser toy? Do you use that to get their attention?

Speaker 9 (30:33):
No?

Speaker 14 (30:33):
Actually that's a little sticker A but no, we don't.
You know, it's such an incredible environment. I have a
lot of people, because we're based in Orange County, California,
that say, wow, this is like Disneyland for animals. You
set up these you know, big scenes and sets, and
the animals themselves. I mean we have photographed over three
thousand animals. So the smells, the sights, and just the

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environment itself is something that the animals are so inquisitive
and they're smelling every animal that's ever been there, and
they're just what is this place? And we'll just make
a quick sound and a lot of times they'll look like,
what that's that picture?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's yeshatically.

Speaker 13 (31:15):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
It's a fantastic book and I'm going to encourage listeners
to pick up a copy of it right now. The
photographer did this, Robert Simrow it. It actually doesn't have
your tire your name on the front of the book.
Life is Perfect. And I'll give out ten copies right
now at one eight six, six, four, five, eight four
or five. We can get this on Amazon, I.

Speaker 14 (31:31):
Assume absolutely the best place to get it.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Okay, Robert, We thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 14 (31:36):
Thank you for having me, and thank you for such
a great show you all do.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You're awesome. Take care of yourself.

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Or is this someone calling from DC?

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No?

Speaker 5 (33:41):
This is DC.

Speaker 22 (33:42):
How you doing today?

Speaker 15 (33:43):
Good?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
How you doing? What's up?

Speaker 14 (33:44):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (33:45):
Thanks for taking my call. I'll tell you what I got. Oh,
I got Tusha Wallas and the female just had cups
three days ago.

Speaker 20 (33:55):
And the male he's.

Speaker 22 (33:56):
The one taking this so high. As a matter of fact,
he got a lot of the most thinking about maybe
I should have taken me to get in from something
for depression. And I'm afraid that maybe he's so angry
about that. Uh my female dog won't pay him no attention,
and I'm afraid he might just, you know, try.

Speaker 11 (34:17):
To hurt the purpose.

Speaker 22 (34:18):
I really don't know what he's gonna do because he's
just acting out of his heading right now. And let
me get here to the to the female. Uh, she first,
just she will eat the purpose for no reason at
not even the drink water, not not even to eat
unless you know he did something like cocked out or
something like something something was her favorite. But I finally

(34:40):
did take the food to her this morning, and she
ate it, So that's kind of my problem.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Okay, Well, it sounds like you've got a very attentive
mom and she is very concerned about the well being
of the babies to her own detriments. And we do
see this in female dogs, some that have such a
strong mothering instinct that they don't want to eat, they
don't want to leave the baby. So you actually, in
many cases sometimes we have to forcibly take mom away,

(35:09):
give her a little private time, let her do her
potty business, give her a quiet room where she can eat,
and that can help for some of the females. Now,
if her being away from the babies is more distressing
than I like what you did. You brought the food
to her so that she can accomplish both things and
dad's problems going on right now. Can be several different motivations.

(35:29):
So one is that, yeah, he may I don't say
resent dogs don't resent the lack of attention that he's getting.
But he may be very focused and interested in what's
going on. So you kind of have to gauge the
level of interaction that you permit the male depending on
how everything's going along. Some female dogs do not want
any other creature around their babies, and she might hurt

(35:53):
him or the male might hurt the babies. Now, if
these guys, have they been through a litter before, is
this their first time together? Okay, so you kind of
have to read the situation a little bit to see
what dad is doing. But I would basically have him
on a leash and have you know, someone monitoring him
while you're watching her and see what the interaction is.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
If she's upset.

Speaker 8 (36:14):
Her hackles are going up, or she is, you know,
guarding those babies. I would not even risk that. And
some males it's best for them to just stay away.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
If he wants to be an involved parent.

Speaker 22 (36:25):
That's great, but that's saying for him because she's ready
to fight him if you try to come around them.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
Yeah, then let's keep these babies away. And you know,
there's there's no reason we.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
Want to increase her level of stress in any way.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
But you know, and with some moms, they can be
even hostile to the humans in the household when they
are protecting their young, So that too is a thing
to be cautious with. I still like to handle the babies,
and I still like to, you know, get them exposed
to human contact very young, but you got to do
that cautiously so you don't injure yourself.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Or stress the mom.

Speaker 22 (37:01):
I got one more question, when can I touch the puppies?

Speaker 8 (37:07):
When can you touch the puppies? Actually, you can touch
them at any point, so it's not it's not like
some of those wildlife where if you touch them, the
mom's going to reject them because you got your son
on them. So that won't happen. But just just use
caution and watch her body language so that you're not
going to put yourself in a point where you're going
to get injured. The best way to kind of manage
that is what I like to do, is to just

(37:28):
kind of put a little light slip leash on the
mom and then that way you have control of her
and you can just kind of gently while you're talking
to her, just kind of gently kind of take her
to the side a little bit, and then you can
handle the babies.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
And then what you do is after.

Speaker 8 (37:40):
You handle them, you give them right back to her
and you return them to her area, and then she'll
see that you are not a physical threat to the babies,
and that makes her more at ease for future handling,
so you're kind of training her at.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
The same time.

Speaker 22 (37:54):
Oh right, I really appreciated your headby doctor Debbie. Okay,
thanks answer a home so one more question. So it
may aw, he don't need it. He don't need nothing
depressing up.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
Not likely.

Speaker 13 (38:07):
No.

Speaker 8 (38:07):
And you know some some male dogs, you know, whether
it's their hormones and the females are in heat or
you know, they've got something like this going on, they
just may not the most may not be the most
interested in food. So if it takes getting him out
of the situation a little bit, take him over to
your family member's how something like that, he might do
a little bit better just to be away from some
of the commotion.

Speaker 22 (38:27):
Oh right, I appreciate it so much. And now you
have a good day Inventive staff. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Good luck with those babies there.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Take care of that.

Speaker 21 (38:35):
Okay.

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Well, Stacy, right around the corner with news. What do
you got.

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What's that time of year where you could catch so
many things. People don't wash their hands and you know
they're sneezing. You're in an airplane when you're traveling, you
catch something.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
It's the flu season.

Speaker 9 (38:52):
But you know there's a lot of things that you
can catch from your animals. I'll tell you some of
them coming up on Animal Radio News.

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Sorry, hang out for yourself.

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Look on my friend this hour, We're gonna talk to
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Oh yeah, that's becoming more and more of a problem,
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I don't know. The last few newscasts with Stacy had
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how to cut your cat's nails. Apparently this is important.
I don't do it for the sake of well, my health. Yeah,
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for this. And that's all the way. In just a
couple of minutes, let's hit the phones. Hi, Vicky, Hi,
how are you good? How are you good? Where are
you calling from today?

Speaker 29 (42:39):
I am in Idaho?

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Is that where you live? Very beautiful place.

Speaker 29 (42:45):
I'm actually a check driver and I'm on the.

Speaker 15 (42:47):
Road right now.

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Okay, chick driver? Is that what you called yourself? I
like that chicks drive much better than guys. I understand.
You want to talk to doctor Debbie.

Speaker 15 (42:56):
Hi there, Hi, Hi, Boston terrier and she has demodetic
mange mite. Okay, and I'd like to know if there's
something that's natural that I can treat her with.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
Okay, So how is this diagnosed? So she does she
having problems?

Speaker 20 (43:17):
Or yeah?

Speaker 29 (43:18):
Her her cheeks get a little bit puffy and red,
and so the vet did a scraping.

Speaker 8 (43:24):
Alrighty, well, I guess we'll back up a little bit
because demodex mites are really common in the Boston Terriers.
It's you know, more comminency in the young pups because
it is a function of their immune system and how
it's maturing. So there's the young dog form and kind
of the old dog form or mature dog form. So
in a young dog, I expect this in a Boston

(43:47):
and I'm not too bothered by it in an older dog.
It does bother me if we detect demodex mites, and
not so much because the mites themself are serious, but
in order for it to occur in an adult dog,
there's usually gotta be something wrong they add to kind
of making their immune system out of whack. Because the
normal pet actually, believe it or not, has these mites
on their skin. I might even find them on a

(44:08):
perfectly normal pet if I scrape their skin. The problem
is is when their immune system and their skin can't
kind of fight this off. So for an adult dog
like yours, I would say, Okay, you know, there's ways
to treat the mites, but my bigger concern is why
did she get these?

Speaker 6 (44:23):
And I'd want to make sure we check for a
couple different health problems because it's real.

Speaker 8 (44:26):
Common in dogs that have underlying hormone problems like thyroid problems,
Cushing's disease, which is an adrenal gland problem, diabetes, and
you know, even.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Cancers and so forth.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
So the other things that kind of take her stresses
away from fighting off the mites are going to be
my bigger concern. The mites can be treated, but for
an adult dogs sometimes it's much harder to treat them
and to get rid of them because of these underlying factors.
So that would be my big goal and my big
focus for her that I would urge you to do.

(45:00):
No answer to your question, is there something natural you
can do?

Speaker 13 (45:03):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Not really.

Speaker 8 (45:05):
Sometimes we'll use probiotics to boost immune support, but really
it's a function to get into the heart of the
problem and then to address these mites.

Speaker 29 (45:14):
She is a blue and light Boston and because they're
not typically supposed to be blue, she has had a
lot of skin problems and you know, so she's been
treated for skin cancer.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Uh oh, okay, and then.

Speaker 29 (45:31):
Might kind of come and go at different times of
the year, Okay.

Speaker 8 (45:36):
In having the blue color dilution in a lot of breeds, Yeah,
that signals kind of a life lifelong skin disorders and problems.
And they just don't have the normal defenses when it
comes to dermatological problems. So so I don't think I
would necessarily look so much for something natural that's going
to cure this. I would definitely want to have They

(45:57):
used ivermectin in the past for her, Yes, okay, because
that's the best.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
Line therapy, is a drug called ivermacton in.

Speaker 8 (46:05):
Less we have a hurting breed like a Collie or
an Australian shepherd, but that's something that I would definitely
kind of lean towards that route.

Speaker 29 (46:12):
Yeah, that's typically what I use whenever they do flare up.
I just that maybe there was something more natural that
I could give her.

Speaker 8 (46:22):
Yeah, and I, you know, talk to your vet if
they're suspicious about any of the other problems. It might
just be something as simple as doing, you know, starting
with some routine lab work and screening like the thyroid level,
see if there's any hints of Cushing's disease, because those
aren't uncommon either in vusted here or so just so
we're not missing something on that radar.

Speaker 15 (46:40):
Alrighty, well, thank you, you're welcome, Vicki, and thank you
so much for the calling.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
Give that baby a pat on the head for us.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Okay, I will ladies and gentlemen. Dog father grewer, Joey Vaalani.
How are you doing, sir?

Speaker 12 (46:52):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 8 (46:53):
You know.

Speaker 30 (46:53):
Two weeks ago I was a dog father. Well, last
week I was the Birdman of Animal Radio. It is
n N N N N N and Catman Catman. Wow, Okay,
I'm gonna be Catman. I'm gonna be talking about how
to clip your cat's nails because I got an email
without getting torn up and shredded to pieces.

Speaker 10 (47:15):
You mean you're supposed to do that?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I didn't really, Yeah, yeah, you you you should, you should.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
You know, the nails get grow a little bit too
long and they start curling under them, just like a dog.
Eventually they'll you know, curl into their into their feet. Now,
some cats will, you know, use a scratching post or
the start of your sofa shopping them and actually wear
them down a little bit. But then there's a lot
of other cats that don't do that. So this is
what you gotta do.

Speaker 12 (47:42):
Number one.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
You gotta find a brave and willing partner because this
is a two person job. Okay, I'm gonna say that
right now. It's definitely a benefit to wear long sleeves.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Now, the first thing we're gonna do, calmly, yes, is
the holder.

Speaker 12 (47:59):
That's what we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Talk about first, okay, because the holder is probably more
important than the one cutting the nails, especially to the
nail cut of themselves.

Speaker 12 (48:08):
So what you.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Wanna do is to make sure the holder has long
sleeves on. Now, if the holder is righty, they're gonna
scruff the cat with their left hand, Okay, So what
you're gonna do is right underneath the ears, that that
that skin that's right down the base of the neck.
You're gonna grab that and not real tight where you're
hurting the cat, but where you have control of the head,

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and you want to make sure you have that. First
next thing you're gonna do with your right hand is
you're gonna wrap it around the cat's body a little
bit above where the knees would be, okay, because that's
the other the other thing you're gonna have to watch
the two back feet coming up and just tearing your
forearms to shreds. So you wanna you want to, you know,
make sure that you got that under control. And as

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you come around the body. With your left hand, you're
gonna grab the front leg that is not being trimmed
at that point because now the person doing the trimming,
and you want to make sure you have a pair
of cat nail clippers okay, which look like tiny little pliers,
and some steptic powder okay, well otherwise called quick stop

(49:14):
just in case you make the cat bleed. But most
we don't want to make our cat bleed by any circumstance,
if that could be helped.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
So he's trying to make a person that's for us.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Yes, the person that is cutting nails is gonna hold
the free leg okay, And what you're going to do
is you're gonna take your thumb. You're gonna push it
up into the pad. And what it's gonna do, it's
gonna retract the claws. Because cats different than dogs. Dogs
nails always show. Cats will retract their their claws. So

(49:47):
what you're gonna do is you're gonna push down all
the nails will show. Now if you look at cats nails,
they're clear, so you can actually see the little pink
vein or quick is really what it's called, that's inside.
I want to cut close to it. But I want
to be far enough away where I am not going
to hit it, because cat's a little bit different than dogs.

(50:07):
Usually once you quit them, they freak out no matter
who's holding them.

Speaker 12 (50:10):
It could be the hulk, and you.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Know the cat's gonna get away and probably hurt somebody,
and you don't want to hurt the caty. You want
to make this a good experience. So what you want
to do with a smile. And I say with a
smile because it's important because especially if you listen to Alan,
Alan always says that pets react to how you react. Okay,
so if you have a nervous or fearful face on

(50:33):
an angry face, the cat picks up on that. So
be happy, be friendly, talk to you, talk to your cat.
And you're gonna start cutting the nails from the outside in,
and I do it that way just so you know
you got all of them. And then the hold is
gonna switch legs. They're gonna grab the leg that was cut,
and you're gonna grab the paw that needs to be trimmed,
and you're gonna go and you're going to do that,

(50:54):
okay until you do all four feet. Now by if
you do happen to quit your cat, okay, which I say,
try not. Even if you just take the tip off
the nail, that's better than quicking the cat. But if
you do, just take a little bit of that steptic powder,
put it on there, hold it for a couple of seconds,
and you should be fine, okay, and your cat will

(51:15):
be happy. But you know a lot of people they
don't trim the nails. And it's the same thing. You
can actually make a pet lame, just like a dog,
and it's even more painful for a cat because they
are so shop so when they crowl under, it's like
the cat is walking on a bed of nails. And
a lot of older cats sometimes have this problem because,
you know what, they just don't have the strength of
the energy to actually wear their nails down themselves.

Speaker 10 (51:39):
What is it when they shed their nails? I see
shedded nails all over my floor.

Speaker 12 (51:44):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
It's almost like sharp teeth in a way. It's not
that they have rose, but when they shed their nails.
Number one, it's a healthy process. But when the nail
sheds away is a nice, healthy, sharp nail that's underneath.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Now, how much do you charge for a cat clipping
at your salona.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
If you flipping, we we only we charged ten dollars
the same thing we charged for dogmail creeping. There's certain
things that I feel it's part of public assistance.

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Joey Vallani the Catman is on.

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Speaker 2 (53:30):
Here's hol and Judy, doctor Debbie answering your vet medical questions,
dog trainer Alan Cable, Dogfather Joey Volani or animal communicator
Joy Turner. We have Wayne on the phone. Hey Wayne,
how you doing.

Speaker 13 (53:41):
Oh, I'm doing just fine.

Speaker 20 (53:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Where are you calling from today?

Speaker 8 (53:44):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Pomona, California, Pomona, lovely Los Angeles area. What's going on?

Speaker 13 (53:48):
I wanted to speak on my white found pit bull.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
You got a pit bull?

Speaker 13 (53:53):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
What about it?

Speaker 13 (53:55):
Uh? She is fantastic. I got a name. It is Platinum,
And I purchased her right after the death of my
wife and like because I knew I was gonna be
long fome And she lives in the house with me
and boy, I'll tell you she must have been sent
by guy because she is one fantastic friend. I'm telling you,

(54:16):
never waiting, did her business in the house, always there
with me, learn so fast I can't believe it, you know,
And like she never touches any of my stuff. And
believe me, I'm kind of Jackie. But she'll walk around
my stuff. I buy a little toys and stuff, and
she only plays with her toys. She's just outstanding. She

(54:39):
she goes outside, you know. When I first got her,
I put her on a twenty six foot leash, and
like I would always walk out into the front yard
because I don't have a fence. And she learned to
stay within the perimeters. And like she's two years old,
a little bit better than too now and like I
can let her outside. She goes outside. She will not

(55:01):
leave my yard. In the beginning, the neighbors were a
bit apprehensive, but they watched her grow up too, and
so this is a pit bull with no aggression, don't
want to do nothing but be loved. Like and they
learned that she stays up on my property and kids
they play, They go up and down the streets on

(55:21):
scooters and bikes, and she just looks at them, you know.
And she's just one exceptional dog.

Speaker 10 (55:28):
See, I think dogs are like kids. They learn what
they live. And obviously you've shown this dog a lot
of love, a good life, and you've been patient with
her and treated her well, and she does it she's
showing it in return.

Speaker 13 (55:41):
It's me and her, you know, And like she follows
me from room to room. When I'm in my very
sad pid which I still have, she seems to sense
it and come up and lay ahead in my lap.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Hey, Wayne, what do you do for a living buddy?

Speaker 13 (55:58):
Well, right now, and I've retired, but I worked for
probably thirty six years for the State of California and
forensic mental health. And wow, because of that, you know,
I learned behavior modification and you know, and how to
get the best out of not only humans but animals and.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
With kind Wait, I'm not surprised you said that. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Some people have a gift, and you probably do. You
probably don't even realize it. But you might have a
second career now. You might be able to help people
with their dogs because you you probably have a really
good gift that you're not even aware of. And you know,
I'm glad you called because pit bulls get a bad rap,
like a lot of dogs do. A pit bull is just.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Like any other dog.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
They can be kind, gentle, sweet, caring, great companions. And
it's great that you're showing people that there was a
story a couple of weeks ago of a family whose
pit bull took a bullet in the head for them
and protected them from a burglar, and it got a
little bit of press, and I'm so happy to see that,
because when something bad happens, pitbulls get the worst rap

(57:04):
instantly the media jumps all over it. But when something
wonderful like that happens, you don't see it very often.
And I just want folks to know there's no such
thing as a bad breed. It's the owners who make
the dogs crazy.

Speaker 13 (57:17):
And I definitely go along with that. If you try
to bring out aggression, or if you try to bring
out any negatives in the animal, this link where I'm
trying to bring out all the good, you can be successful,
you know, But who wants a mean, bited dog that
nobody can can deal with? And then everyone's afred up?

Speaker 14 (57:40):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Well, let me ask you a question, Wayne, when you
walk around with your dog, what's your dog's name?

Speaker 13 (57:44):
It's Platinum?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Oh, Platinum?

Speaker 12 (57:46):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
When you walk around with Platinum, do people freak out?
Do they think maybe they should be cautious at first?

Speaker 10 (57:52):
Did they cross the street immediately?

Speaker 13 (57:54):
And like they say, can't?

Speaker 12 (57:56):
Can I pet them.

Speaker 13 (57:58):
She loves to be petted, and like her biggest drawback
is she's just so eager until a lot of people
interpret that as aggression, But it's just her eagerness to
be loved, you know, and be petted and have a
head spatched. And you know, like I said, she doesn't growl,

(58:19):
not even ground.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
You know, it's really cool that a guy with a
behavior modification career and background gets a dog like that,
because you have talent, you have abilities that most people
don't have, and that's important.

Speaker 13 (58:31):
Well, I appreciate that.

Speaker 10 (58:33):
You know.

Speaker 13 (58:33):
I have three other pits that are those pref canarios
that are really really big pits. One hundred and twenty
five pounds apiece, I got two hundred backyard one on
the side, and I got platinum in the house, and
like I love all four of my dogs.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Well good, I'm glad to hear this story.

Speaker 14 (58:50):
Wayne.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Thank you so much for calling today and telling us
all the good things that pitts do. I appreciate it
the time.

Speaker 19 (59:06):
Good day, and I'm a lovers. It is time for
your resident party animal, and that'd be me. Vinnie Penn
just hung up the phone with my sister who lives
out in Las Vegas. She had to go because she
was having what she called a play date with her dog.
She has a girlfriend who got the same dog same
time as her. Technically the dogs are brothers, I don't know,

(59:30):
brother and sister or sisters, I don't know. I never
inquire about the sex of the animal when a dog
is introduced into a family. But she said, yeah, we're
having a play date with the dogs. And I said, well,
this is a brilliant idea. And she said yeah. She
comes over once a week and we let the dogs
play in the yard and then we get to catch up.
We also have a yappy hour, she said, And I said,
excuse me. She goes, yeah, yappy hour. You know, we

(59:53):
have drinks. We'll crack open a couple of bottles of wine.
And I thought to myself, this is not a play
date for the dogs, no matter what clever name you
come up with. Whatever, guys, this is an excuse for
you to get drunk with your girlfriend under the ruse
that you care about your animals, and then drive the

(01:00:13):
little guy home drunk.

Speaker 12 (01:00:16):
And I've met her friend an Marie before.

Speaker 19 (01:00:18):
I could see her propping her dog up in her
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Keep love in those pits.

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This is an Animal Radio news update.

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
I'm Stacey Cohen for Animal Radio. Well, this is the
time of year when everybody gets sick because people don't
wash their hands. It's very easy to prevent a lot
of these flues and colds and all that. Well, there's
many diseases that affect pets that can also be dangerous
for people. These diseases even have names. They're called zoooses. Fortunately,

(01:02:02):
though many of them are preventable by washing your hands
or giving your pets shots. Rabies probably one of the
most dangerous. Without exception, Rabies is fatal once an animal
or person becomes infected with it. You can be exposed
to rabies through animal bites. Roundworms they're intestinal parasites. They
can infect dogs, cats, and other mammals, including wild animals

(01:02:25):
like raccoons, and it can infect people. It's particularly dangerous
for children. It can cause blindness, seizures, and other symptoms.
Keeping pets free of parasites, picking up pet feces, and
following good hygiene practice best defense against this. Hookworms same story.
They're worms that live in the intestinal track of dogs
and cats and other animals, and they can infest sand

(01:02:47):
and dirt. They cause skin lesions for people who contact
the parasite again. Picking up pet feces can help stop
the spread salmonella. You hear about it all the time,
a lot of recalls with pet food and things like that.
When you touch the pet food or the pet treats
and then you don't wash your hands, you can infect yourself.
So you've got to wash your hands, keep your animals inoculated,

(01:03:09):
and it's easy to stop these things, all right. This
is a bizarre story, not that I never tell you
anything bizarre, but there's a squid that inseminated a woman's
tongue in Soul, Korea. This woman was eating semi boiled
squid in June when it injected its sperm bag into
her tongue. The unidentified woman reportedly experienced a pricking and

(01:03:33):
foreign body sensation while she chewed and spat the squid
out ah she didn't swallow. Doctors found that the squid
had left twelve small, white, spindle shaped bug like organisms
in the mucous membranes of her tongue and cheek. Hopefully
she's not pregnant. I'm Stacy Cohen. Get more animal breaking
news at animal radio dot com.

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Speaker 16 (01:04:05):
You're listening to Animal Radio call the dream Team now

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Listen. If you're looking over at your spouse right now
and you're saying, boy, been with this lady for fifteen
twenty years.

Speaker 10 (01:04:21):
Or been with this man, don't make it all one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Sided and you really don't want to be with him anymore.
You'd like to, I don't know, check out the scene,
but you don't want to split because of the dog.
You love that dog and you know that that could
be a custody battle. Then we have today joining us
a divorce attorney, Silvana d Rosso. Am I pronouncing your
name right, Miss Rosso? You are okay?

Speaker 12 (01:04:44):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I usually don't, so that's good. Your practice is? Where
is your practice?

Speaker 27 (01:04:49):
My practice?

Speaker 29 (01:04:50):
Your PG?

Speaker 27 (01:04:50):
McLaughlin is in Bergen County, New Jersey, Englewoodcliff, Okay, a
very right.

Speaker 9 (01:04:55):
Grew up.

Speaker 12 (01:04:55):
I grew up in a cliffside park.

Speaker 27 (01:04:58):
We're right next door.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Let's as them for that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
A lot of people are getting divorced more than ever.
You always hear that fifty percent of marriages end up
in divorce, but more and more the pet has become
an item in the divorce, and in most states they're
treated like property. Is that correct?

Speaker 27 (01:05:13):
That's correct. The law doesn't recognize, unfortunately, the emotional attachment
that we have to pets. We see them as members
of our family, but unfortunately the law doesn't recognize them
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
So what happens in these cases, I mean, there's do
you have custody battles like we do with kids?

Speaker 27 (01:05:29):
Well, we do have custody battles, but the factors that
are used to determine where those pets go are not
the same factors that are used when courts look at
custody battles with children. And the reason for that is
because the law doesn't allow judges to view as anything
other than property. But judges are human beings and they
understand the emotional attachment that people have to pets, so

(01:05:52):
they don't treat them just as properties. You're splitting the
big you know, figuring out who's going to get the
big screen TV or the car or the vacation house.
Courts do try to factor in some emotional value to
the pets to try to make a decision as to
where the pests go. If the adults can't decide.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Well, now, if I said that I'd love the dog
or the cat more, does that hold up in court?

Speaker 13 (01:06:14):
Not?

Speaker 27 (01:06:14):
Really. There are few things that the courts look at.
One of them is who owns the pet before the
marriage took place. If you came into the marriage with
the dog, then odds are you'll probably leave the marriage
with the dog as well. That being said, there are
some exceptions to that rule. For example, if there are
kids in the marriage. Generally courts don't take away pets

(01:06:35):
from kids, so whoever gets custody of the kids, generally
the pets go with the kids.

Speaker 10 (01:06:39):
Does the court ever bring in animals into the court
room and say, okay, whichever person the animal runs to,
that's the one that gets to take them.

Speaker 27 (01:06:46):
Well, that has been threatened in a case before. There
was a case I was involved in where there were
no children in the marriage and the parties couldn't decide
who was going to get the cat. So the cat
had been bought during the marriage, not before the marriage,
so the couldn't really use who had the pet before
the marriage to decide who was going to get the cat,
And the grown ups couldn't decide between themselves who's going

(01:07:07):
to get the cat. So the judge said, well, if
you guys can't decide, we're going to bring the cat
into the courtroom. We're going to drop the cat in
the middle of the court room. Whoever the cat runs to,
that's who it goes to. In face with that prospect,
the husband and the wife decided between.

Speaker 15 (01:07:20):
Themselves it ran to the guy with the tuna exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
He has a cat treats.

Speaker 27 (01:07:24):
In his pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
So if I'm feeding the cat more and let's say
I am always the one that cleans the litter and
I'm always the one that feeds it, does that hold
up in court at all?

Speaker 27 (01:07:32):
It does because if the judge can't use who brought
the pet into the marriage to decide, then the courts
look at well, who was primarily responsible for the care
of the pet during the marriage.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Hey, what's the kookiest, strangest reason you've ever seen a
judge of water pet to somebody?

Speaker 10 (01:07:47):
Well, you know.

Speaker 27 (01:07:48):
What the strangers case is, the one where the cat.
The judge threatened to drop the cat in the middle
of the courtman and see who it ran to. But
generally courts don't like to get involved in this, and
they don't like to make these kinds of decisions because
the law really tied their hands. They can't decide. They're
just going to basically roll the dice and see whoever
gets the pet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Are there some states that animals are starting to be
looked at as living beings scenting beans and treated that
way in court?

Speaker 27 (01:08:13):
Now, unfortunately the law hasn't caught up to our society
in terms of how we think of animals. Animals are
simply property in every state.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
So I guess what you're suggesting is figure this stuff
out out of the courtroom, because you don't want somebody
who has no emotional attachment to siding that's correct.

Speaker 10 (01:08:28):
Are there any cases where any pets support is awarded
to the person that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Takes the aid like custody?

Speaker 10 (01:08:33):
Yeah, child support?

Speaker 27 (01:08:35):
Now generally that's not done. Although what people do is
they do work out an arrangement. If they decide between
themselves they are going to share custody of the dog,
for example, you know whife ex wife gets the dog
every other week. Then the people do come up with
an arrangement on their own as to sharing vet bills
and things of that nature, and boarding bills if necessary.
But courts generally don't get involved in those decisions because

(01:08:56):
they can't. The law simply doesn't let them do that,
which is why judges encourage people to try to resolve
these on their own.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
When you're filling out the prenup, is this something that
you might include in it?

Speaker 27 (01:09:05):
Absolutely, that's always what we recommend. And when we ask
people when they're doing a prenuptional agreement, are you coming
into the marriage with any pets? Because if you are,
you need to be clear as to who's going to
get that pet if you get divorced.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Do you notice any people staying together for the pets.

Speaker 27 (01:09:18):
I've never found that to be the case, because people
come to me when they're already made the decision can
get divorced.

Speaker 10 (01:09:23):
Have you ever seen anyone kidnap a pet?

Speaker 27 (01:09:25):
There have been allegations of that, Yes, that somebody has
taken the pet and the other person denies it, and
usually they end up being found out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
You must see a whole lot of crazy people doing
crazy stuff.

Speaker 27 (01:09:36):
Huh, Yes they do. But unfortunately divorce lawyers we tend
to catch people at the worst time of their lives.
So we chalk it up to just catching something in
a bad moment doesn't mean that they're bad people. But
sometimes people when they're emotionally distraught, do crazy things.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Never, my net girl, we got to get together you
I howl the whole gang over a glass of wine
and just let you tell us stories.

Speaker 27 (01:09:58):
I would love to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Well, now, it seems like at the end of the
day you might come home in a grumpy mood seeing
people fighting all day and all of that.

Speaker 27 (01:10:04):
Sometimes that does happen.

Speaker 10 (01:10:06):
I would think the opposite. I would think you would
really appreciate your spouse after listening to stuff like that
all day.

Speaker 27 (01:10:11):
Well, you know, sometimes I do thank myself for having
a somewhat normal life, but other days it does get
to you. But you know, that's part of life.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Okay, Well, that's a lot to handle right there, A
lot on my plate. The pets have come in the house.
Twenty years ago. They used to be in the backyard.
No one really cared who got their pets, But now
they are a part of the family. And do you
think the laws will ever catch up?

Speaker 27 (01:10:31):
I do think that the laws will eventually catch up
if there are enough people who fight for the laws
to change. Unfortunately, pets are caught in the middle. And
the sad thing is that the owners of those pets
are stuck not being able to really advocate for who
should get the animal because the court stands are tied.
So I think eventually the laws will catch up with
the way society of use animals today.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Sylvana, I thank you so much for joining us today.
Is there a website or any information you want to
give out?

Speaker 27 (01:10:56):
Yes, our website is www dot Shippie c h E
p I s I dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Okay, well that's your last name.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
You have a beautiful name.

Speaker 27 (01:11:05):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
The uh, Well, but that's kind of hard to spell
s c h E p I s I will put
the link over at Animal radio dot com. Savana, thank
you so much for joining us.

Speaker 27 (01:11:14):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
I have a good day there.

Speaker 12 (01:11:17):
I got it. I want to ask Judy a question
because I don't want to ask you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
If you if you and your husband were getting a divorce,
would you fight over the pet?

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:11:25):
I would automatically win. There'd be no flights.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Are you kidding? Judy's got her man wrapped around both fingers.

Speaker 12 (01:11:34):
Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 10 (01:11:36):
And what about you, Joey?

Speaker 12 (01:11:37):
No, I give it one of my wife. Yeah, I
want new beginnings.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Take it all. Okay, you take everything.

Speaker 12 (01:11:46):
Okay, you can have all the baggage.

Speaker 10 (01:11:49):
Typical guy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
What about the flat screen, Joey, does she get that too?

Speaker 12 (01:11:53):
Everything?

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
I'm just oh, listen, give me my my car, pair
of clothes, and you know, and the guy is drawing
confetti when I was singing Happy Days.

Speaker 12 (01:12:02):
Here again here I'm laughing throne the confetti.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
Should joe You, Cobie, you talk a big game, but
I've seen you and your wife and I know you're
so fuller. You love that woman.

Speaker 12 (01:12:13):
She's so happy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
If a woman's not happy, that means her man is
not treating her well, and she's happy.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Brenda, Hey, Brenda, how are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Hey?

Speaker 20 (01:13:31):
I'm fine. How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Oh? I love that Southern accent where you call them from.

Speaker 20 (01:13:36):
I'm calling well, I'm actually in Tallahassee, Florida, but I'm
from Thomasville, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Thomas Via. That's the that's the Georgia accent you have there,
isn't it. I guess I have a weakness for ladies
with with that kind of accent. I'll tell you that
right now, but I want to I'm going to shove
my mouth and I'm going to let you talk to
doctor Debbie. How does that sound?

Speaker 20 (01:13:54):
Okay, sounds good?

Speaker 8 (01:13:56):
Thank you, well, behave there. How this is doctor Debbie.
What can we do for you here? Now see I'm
kind of drawing into it myself here.

Speaker 20 (01:14:03):
They said that you wrote a book on Yorkies. And
I was telling the lady that I spoke with earlier
that I just actually bred my Yorkie. My best friend,
Barbara Bedales, is from She's actually from Coming Georgia, up
north of Atlanta, and she and I made about every
six to eight weeks in a little town called Warner Robins,

(01:14:25):
George into shopping and I actually bought my Yorkie and
my female Yorkie there, and she and I got to
talk to and she wanted a puppy from her, so
I said, okay, she was actually a rescue and I said, okay,
I'll read her one time and I'll give you a
puppy from her. So I did, and thinking that she
would only have maybe three to four puppies, she had

(01:14:46):
eight puppies seven towns. Oh my goodness, that for the
male only weighs six. So I never, in my live
imagination thought she would have eight puppies well.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Those to stop you for a second, because when the.

Speaker 20 (01:15:03):
Puppies were five days old, she got milk fever. So
I had to play optimum and raise all eight puppies. Well,
never did the vets here in Tallahassee, or and Thomas
Hill thought those eight puppies would live. I'm extremely hard
headed and I just was very determined to have them live.
So I got up every three hours and bottle fed them,

(01:15:25):
and all light live.

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Awesome.

Speaker 8 (01:15:27):
I gotta say, I'm gonna put a little kind of
flavor to that. So Yorky puppies are usually they usually
only have about wonder four per litter, so the fact
that this little thing had eight is just it is
truly that's kind of like the max that these guys
can potentially have. So yeah, I'm gonna say Brenda that
you know. And just also, milk fever, just for those
that don't know, this is a real problem in dogs

(01:15:49):
that have especially large litters because they have a lot
of milk demands.

Speaker 6 (01:15:52):
So what happens is their calcium.

Speaker 8 (01:15:54):
Level drops really seriously low, and it can lead to tremors, seizures,
and it can be fatal if it's not treated.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
So the fact she had such big letters.

Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
It's definitely one reason that was probably more apparent there. Well, Godley,
that's success to you and her.

Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
So you got to retire this baby. No more liters
for her. She's done.

Speaker 20 (01:16:14):
No, she's done. And so I used to raise Pickingne.
So luckily I was at home and I knew what
to look for, and I immediately took her to the
vent and took the puppy's way, and of course they
were raised in a pack and play, and I tell
you it was it was a real challenge because I
had to. I mean I was up every three hours
and it took me an hour to feed them. And
although fitting the pall in my hands.

Speaker 8 (01:16:35):
Are you having any current problems or concerns with your
babies at all or is everything going well?

Speaker 20 (01:16:39):
None? None, except they're like rats on acid. I'm telling it.
These are the my hyper dogs I've ever seen. And
I've been listening to your show all day about walking
in front of them. I mean, these dogs are so fast.
I couldn't walk in front of them. I mean I
have to run. I mean they are the most hyper

(01:17:00):
dogs I've ever had. They're still they're only about four
and a half tounds. I guess coming from such a
large letter.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Brenda, I see up here on the board you have
a question about a Pekinese and I want to make
sure that we have enough time for that.

Speaker 20 (01:17:12):
Okay, Yeah, I've got idea. As I said, I did
used to raise pickanes and I've got two picknees and
a ship foo as well as the other three Yorkies,
the mother and the two babies. I've got one Picknees
that's about thirteen years old. She's got hip display you
and the event won't do surgery on her because number
one of her. Because of her age. They won't put
her to sleep, and they're afraid to go in there

(01:17:34):
and just start cutting because they don't know really which
disc is actually bad. So today I'm going home to
make hero a wheelchair. I saw it online and it's
made out of TV sea pipe. And I just happened
to be in wall Rings the other day and they
had some wheels that go to a walker that will
fit in the TV sea pipe. So that's my shore
today is to go home and make her a wheelchair

(01:17:56):
that will fit her back legs so that she can
walk with this wheelchair cat.

Speaker 8 (01:18:00):
Okay, So, and you wanted to know if that's going
to be an appropriate thing to try.

Speaker 20 (01:18:04):
Right, she could she you know, actually your a night,
go to the bathroom and she eats, and you know
she has all of her bodily fronts and.

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
She just can't use I got it all right, Well,
that's that's gonna be. That was gonna be.

Speaker 8 (01:18:16):
One of my first thoughts for you was, you know,
if a pet has a mobility problem. So in most cases,
wheelchairs are used for dogs that have spinal disease where
they become paralyzed. And the criteria for a dog that
would be comfortable and that would have a good quality
of life in that is if they are relatively pain free.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
And if they have continence.

Speaker 8 (01:18:36):
It doesn't have to have continence, but if they don't,
then that means we have a lot of more labor
intensive things that we have to empty the bladder for
them at home. So if we're comfortable and we're peeing
on our own, there's no reason I wouldn't consider that.
They do make some very good quality pet wheelchairs. They
can be quite pricey, and if you got a kind
of an older gal that's up in the higher double

(01:18:57):
digit of her age, then I don't see any problem
with trying to make one at home as long as
she you know, we kind of gradually train her to
that and really use positive rewards and make sure it's
just really comfortable. The number one thing we want to
watch on those when they're homemade is that we don't
want any kind of rubbing and kind of an injury

(01:19:18):
traction injury from where it fits under the armpits and
the under the hind quarters, so that you really have
to watch that, And that would be the one shortcoming
that I do see when people make these on their
own is that it's just not always ergonomically correct. It
may function and get her moving around, but it may
not be the most suited for her body style. So

(01:19:39):
I would say give it a try.

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
Good. Well, yeah, I'd say hats off to you.

Speaker 8 (01:19:43):
You sound like you're a very dutiful pet owner and
you love your babies.

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
Thank you so much for calling Brenda.

Speaker 8 (01:19:49):
I really enjoy and I thank you for recognizing about
my your key book.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
It is called Yorkshire Terriers How to Be Your.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Dog That's a Kid.

Speaker 6 (01:19:57):
It is on Kindle and it's published by One on
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Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
That's all we have time for today. I want to
thank Silvana rosso. Remember you can get us at Facebook,
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from the app for iPhone and Android. Have yourself a
great week.

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
Bye bye bye boy.

Speaker 12 (01:20:17):
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