Beyond the Barrier: A Deep Dive into Star Wars Skeleton Crew | Episode 7 - Around the Galaxy

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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well a, holy they're Star Wars Adventurers and welcome to
our fourth episode. I know it's the seventh episode of
the show, but it's our fourth episode of Beyond the Barrier,
where we explore the mysteries of Skeleton Crew. I'm one
of your hosts, Pete Fletzer, and as always, I'm joined
by my good friends and Star Wars first mate mister
Nick Milk. Every couple of weeks we're going to chart
a course through the twist, turns and treasures of the
Disney Plus Star Wars series. And tonight we're going to

(00:56):
be joined by our friend Darth Chaco. I will bring
him in. Now. How are you doing, Chockoh, I'm doing great.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Do I sound good?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Send a little choppy, but we got you, we can
see you.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay. I apologize. I my internet's down. I'm just I'm
just phoning now.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
So are you close to l A? Are you you're out?
Are you in that? Actually?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
So my diet Element seven, he's the one that's actually
close to the fires and stuff. I'm in San Diego,
so I'm safe. But yeah, I definitely shout out in
the parish for everyone who is over.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
There for sure, for sure. All right, Nick, well let's
let's continue and we'll chocolate. Just having you here is
good enough. I don't care if it's chopping. We love
having you with us. A nice conversation, so go.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
For it to.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I lost my lost my page here. That's how that's
how professional we are. Yes, So we're going to jump in.
We are going to have we're breaking down episode seven
titled we are going to be in So Much Trouble.
It's a fantastic show lined up, and there's a bunch

(02:10):
of stuff on deck.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Right, and first of all, we are going to be
joined by by Chokol and Nick. First, first of all,
then we're going to have the scuttle butt, and then
we're going to kick things over to our which is
basically we kick off with our sort of one word
reactions to the episode, and then we set the stage
for what's to come.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's right after we do that, we're going to hit
plotting the course. We're going to map out the major
story beats. We're going to kind of go through the story,
talk about what happened, the things that stood out the
most to us, and then from there Pete, where.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Do we go? Well, then we go into some bury
treasure where we uncover some different Easter eggs and references
and some hidden details that even the sharpest fans like
Darth Choco here might have missed. But I'm pretty sure
he'll have gone most of the ones we got.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And then finally we're going to wrap it up with
buckos and codgers, some great pirate terms. We want to
pass the mic. You guys, We're going to do call ins.
We're bringing back calls on ATG Live every week. We
want to hear from you. We want to hear your thoughts,
your theories, your thoughts on our thoughts and theories. So
it's your time to shine. You can click that link
you'll join us live on screen for a minute, or
if you're not comfortable doing that, Like Pete said, we've

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got the voicemail at the top of the screen. Give
us a call, let us know in the chat that
you left a message, and we can pull that up
and hear your thoughts as well.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Absolutely so, if you're catching this on the podcast feed
while you're missing out on the live action, join us
live every Thursday night for ATG Live, not only can
you be part of the fun real time, but as
Nick just said, you can call in and be part
of the fund.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
And there is one warning we have to give. I've
done this every time, we've done behind the barrier. Let
me clear my throat, let me get ready do it.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
You warned, there be spoilers here. Best pirate I can
give you. We are digging into the plot. We are
digging into the details, speculation.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
If you haven't watched episode seven yet, take a break,
go watch it.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Come back.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
You can find us on the replay. We love that
you're here, but we don't want to spoil anything. If
you're ready to, you know, enjoy it for the first
time yourself.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Absolutely, So grab your maps and raise your solar sales
and let's set course for adventure. So, Chaco, we do
this thing before we even get into the plot of
the episode, before we get into some of the things
that struck us, we give a little sort of one

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word sort of reaction to the episode. If you want
to go first, we can throw it to you, Choco.
What was your one word? Sort of take It can
be a hyphenated word, it could be a hashtag. I
got away with hashtag a couple of weeks ago. I
was kind of cheating, but I did it that way.
But what's your sort of your your one word kind
of reaction to the show?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
One word reaction is one word, but I have to
say it twice. It's job, job.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I love that. That is pretty Yeah, I think so
many people were feeling that way. And after we get
through the the plot of the episode, I definitely want
to dig into to that concept. Like it's so funny
to watch social media respond to John than I would
in this particular episode, and I can definitely get beyond
that one Nick, what's your one word response? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I went back and forth on this a little bit,
and this is always like, for all the things that
we've done on the show over the years, for some reason,
the one word response is the thing that catches me
out the most. And I'm like, I have too many
words to just use one word. I'm going to say
I think my one word was pensive, Like they left
me hanging right there on the edge, you know, obviously

(05:44):
the way the episode ends, and they've done that several times.
You know, several of them ended with like the saber
coming on the you know, the whatever. But like I'm
thinking and I'm in my head on this episode, especially
a bunch because we kind of had a little bit
of a lead if are we going to hear more
about his backstory? Like, it's a lot of thinking involved
in this one, which then puts me headlong into thinking
about the next one.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah. Yeah, I think pensive is a great word. I
think it's sort of along the lines of what I'm thinking.
I was I couldn't think of the right word because
it's the only word I can think about. I can
think of doesn't come across right, And that word is disappointed,
And it's not in the episode. It's not in the show,
it's not in where it is. It's just disappointed that
it's going to end. I feel like we're just hitting

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this great peak. It's like when you're when you're sitting
in a movie and suddenly those those credits come up
and you're like, oh man, that was great. I need more.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
So it was another moment where and we've lamented this
certainly a bunch of times with a lot of the
Disney Plus shows, but it was that moment where I
lamented the fact that, like we've gotten into this eight
episode TV show thing yeah, like what happened to twenty
two episode shows? What happened to twelve and fourteen episode shows?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Chack o? I see you you know agree with this
chime in.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
This is I mean, it's it's my number one gripe
with the way the the string shows have been providing media.
It's that we don't they hit the zone. And what
you want to do is maximize your time in the zone.
You know, you have the story arc and then this
this high end, give me three episodes in that zone,

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don't you know. There's the problem is there's there's no fat.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
These scripts are so lean and mean that they give
us only what we need for only as long as
we need it, and we need we need that extra,
we need to we need that fat.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I think that's why animation that is where the flavor
is exactly. Hey, hey, somebody who loves to barbecue and
and grill and smoke stuff, I know that's where the
good stuff. But I think I think that's why animation
has been more successful is because it doesn't cost as much,
so you can spend three episode arc like Clone Wars Mastered, right,

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going from a story literally ended and then another one
came and you were going to speak. You knew you
were going to be spending the next three to four
weeks in whatever that was. This you're just getting going
and it kind of hits. So but speaking of getting
going and it hits and what that story is, let's
plot the course and talk about what this episode gave us.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
All right, well, we are going to jump in with
plotting the course. We're going to do a quick recap
of this episode, which, as we said, is entitled We're
going to Be in So Much Trouble.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
This was directed by Lee Isaac Chung.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
We had a runtime of thirty seven minutes, and the
official Disney Plus description reads, our heroes have never felt
further from home, which obviously there's some great irony in that.
So we open this episode at night, beneath the green
glow of the barrier. Kb's parents Gary and Mary. I
love that that's their names. There's no way around that.

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Farah who is Fern's mom, Wendell and Numa. They risk everything.
They're sending a message to their kids. They've got stolen
bearer codes. We saw that in the last episode the Transmitter.
The group faces off against relentless security droids, the parent
sacrifices themselves to pass the device forward.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
It was like felt like a football game, like a
high school.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Football, you know, like we're lateral in that ball, We're
trying to keep it going, We're trying to get to
the end zone.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
It was literally a scene from Little Giants.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Correct exactly what it is, the fumble Rooski scene from
Little Giants, which maybe that was a callback to the
you know, a nineties movie that we didn't know we needed.
And then Farah and a nailbiding moment, managed to launch
the communication buoy into the sky and though captured their
messages on its way. So you know, in this we've
got you know, we've got those vintage throwback vibes.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
You know, certainly that's a great one.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
It did to me feel very you know, sports movie
like football is what I went to Pete. I know
you said this, those flashlights in the forest, that's the
most et thing that we've seen, you know, other than
at the beginning when they're being chased through the forest,
ye Chaco in this opening scene.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
What you know what grabbed you in that quick moment.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Definitely the et vibes. But like I said, when during
our live reaction, I said, this is the thumber Uski.
The show's doing nostalgia right where it's not too on
the nose.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
If you know, you know, if you don't know, it
doesn't feel unnatural. But this opening scene and just showing
I don't know why. There's a lot of media where
parents don't really care about their kids, and so it's
just heartwarming to.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Have uh, to have this, but no, it was I agree,
and I think it was the It was the Et
vibes for me. And then you know, somebody pointed out
that the the Little Booie almost looked like ET's ship
at the end of it as well. So but sorry
continued on the Onyx sender, where the kids for Neil
and Whim and KB, believe that they're finally going home.

(10:54):
This is such a great moment to see the kids
kind of relaxing. But as they approach it at in
the pirate frigate, but led by Brutus, intercepts their ship.
John Nanawood, a cunning and ambitious pirate, seizes the opportunity
to overthrow Brutus and take control of the frigate and
the kid's ship. John's charisma and ruthlessness ruthlessness, shine as
he manipulates his crew, executes brutus, which was beautiful, and

(11:18):
takes the kid's hostage. His true goal was to explete
the Onyx Sender's ability to bypass the barrier and plunder
at Aton's legendary mint. Am I the only one that
was shocked that that the Wolfman went out like a bitch?
I mean that was quick and easy and brutal.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Was I the one that was surprised by that?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Honestly it kind of worked for me, like he was
built up, But yeah, go ahead, Jack, it was.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
It was surprising, you know, because I honestly wanted a
duel between Like in my mind, I saw the lightsaber
reveal as a duel where he uses it to take
down for and like that's what I wanted in my head.
But what we got is more pirate life. It's more ruthless,
and it's more full, and I think it actually better

(12:10):
suits the heel turn for the character of jod of
letting us know, because because I think he's done a
fantastic job of showing us as like a reluctant, drunk
uncle who's like taking the kids to a park.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Or something.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
To like uh to he might try to kill these kids,
you know, like he's It shows the ruthlessness that either
is a heel turn or was always there. We don't
know which Jod is the real job. I don't know
if Jod knows which God is the real job.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yep, great point.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
And it also had you know, as we've this show
seems to have just been such a great you know,
amalgamation of eighties things, nineties things, other pop culture things.
It has a little bit of like modern Pirates of
the Caribbean movie of like who's in charge?

Speaker 4 (13:01):
No, you're in charge?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, now I'm in charge, like you know, we have
a mutiny, and then it changes and same thing, like
he stands there, he shoots and he's like, really, is
this what you want to do? And they're like you
know what turns out No we don't and wipping around.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, well for someone to go parlay.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah right, yes, exactly parlay Yeah, the parlay gig back
and back or the gimmick back and forth. So they're
aboard theonic sender, John and his crew intercept the parents
holographic message.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
We get that booy it gets up.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
The heartfelt recording reassures the children of their parents' love,
warns them about the dangers of the barrier, and crucially,
it provides a clue. The republic emissary is the key
to navigating safely through the barrier. Inspired by their courage
the parents' courage, the kids fight back s M thirty three,
Their loyal droid ally takes out several pirates, allowing the
children to escape on board the Sender. In a thrilling

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chase through the barrier, the ship narrowly avoids destruction by satellite.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
They emerge on.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
The other side, and finally at at in his back,
it's revealed that beautiful world inside this kind of hollow,
you know, gas giant barrier, that whole kind of thing.
You know, they think they're home and then they're not.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, you know I saw that. There was some typical
sort of Twitter conversations, and he was like, well, how
does the sun get through this? Just no, it's star wars.
Like bricks and screws, fires in space, noise in space.
It's star wars. Just enjoy that. Take that in. But yeah,

(14:38):
I thought it was I thought it was very well done.
But their relief is short lived because John, who has
stowed away aboard the cinder, reveals a blue lightsaber and
swiftly eliminates S thirty three. He forces the children to
accompany him to add at in surface, posing as a
Republic emissary. John's deception fools the planet's droids, granting him

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access to the mint, a vult of unimaginable wealth. And
meanwhile the parents have been detained for violating at at
in security protocols, and they watch as the Onyxtender lands.
I love the way it opened up, and it's my
sense that this hasn't happened for a hundred years, because
nobody who was picnicking on that green lawn had any
idea that they were about to open up to a

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landing platform.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
They're like, oh shit, the ground opens up.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Wait what? And an emotional reunion the children and their
parents do embrace, only for a moment, because John emerges
Knights's lightsaber after he has seen the treasure of at
At and it is in his grasp and with their
homeworld and their loved ones at risk, the stage is
now set for this final high stakes episode. Yes, we

(15:45):
skimmed through the top details. We figured you've probably watched it.
We did see you. You mentioned at Chaco this heel
turn from John? What's your thoughts? Where is he? It's
again funny to want Twitter and social media just turn
on him like bad milk. They hate him now he

(16:05):
cannot be redeemed. Is John a bad guy? Or what's
going on with him? What's your and? I love it?
By the way, before we get too deep into this,
if you're not following Darth Chalco on TikTok, and I
think you're also on Instagram and on Twitter, you give
these I love your little sixty second conversations and perspectives.

(16:26):
So I'm really excited to hear your thoughts and tell
us where everybody can find that before we forget to
do that at the end. So tell us now where
they can follow you on social media before we forget.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
Yeah, so TikTok is going to be going away, so yeah,
which my primary place, So most of most of new
content is going to end up being here on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I think that's gonna be my good cool but so
Darth Chroco on YouTube, also Darth chraco ig on Instagram.
I'm also on Blue Sky and I largely avoiding Twitter
because it's filed out.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
There, but.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I'm around just just follow me wherever. But with John,
I think it's a That's why that's one of my
complaints of like, we need more episodes because I don't
see how they can give us what we need and
wrap everything up in a bow in a single episode

(17:29):
with what they've given us, you know, I mean, I
guess from one standpoint, we know roughly what the kids know,
and that that makes this us kind of anxious because
he really does seem like a massive threat to him.
On the other hand, the backstory I've written in my
head was that he's a youngling that left the Order,

(17:53):
not and I actually don't want him to be an
Order sixty six survivor. I want him to have just
left on his own a cool prior to them, because
you didn't have to become a Jedi, you could you
could leave anytime you wanted, And so I would like
to have because I feel like all the characters have
had their kind of episode, and I think him and

(18:14):
Whim it would be really interesting narratively if they had
this crossing where you know, Wim is craving this adventure.
He wants to be a Jedik because he wants to
help people. If you have someone who was raised to
be a Jedi and said, I can't live up to this.
I'm going to go do my own thing. You could
have an interesting story of him looking through Whim's eyes

(18:36):
and seeing the love of the thing that he left
that he didn't respect, and maybe using that to make
a better choice. Either way, I foresee him trying to escape,
and I see Neil pulling a fat turret out of
the school yard and shooting him down before he before

(18:57):
he makes it.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
That's what I get. So many Chekhov's guns, and every
single one has been paid off, and You're absolutely right,
that is one that I've forgotten about. But you're right.
It's at the top of the school. There's Yeah, it couldn't.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Have been where it is.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, there's a definite reason why Hana showed him where
it was. Right, So I love love that, even maybe
it's against the pirate ship or something. But I want
Neil on the gun. That would be great. But but
you kind of hit toward my My theory, which I'll
share in a minute, is how it ends. But I
think I like, I think I might modifind it based

(19:34):
a little bit on what you just said, But I
do like I like where you're going with that, Nick,
What do you think is John? Is he the villain
or is he the lovable pirate or what's the story
with him?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I think, and I'm sure this is the eternal optimist
in me. This is the dad who's watched this guy,
you know, being mean to some little kids, you know,
in this episode, and you know he makes whim cry.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
He kind of you know, he laid the he laid
it down. He was like, this is the flaw with
each of you. This is your deal. This is a thing.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I want it, you know, I kind of want him
to be Willy Wonka. And I think he used that term,
you know, last week or at some point, you know,
I want it ultimately to be you know, he's going
to come through in the end.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
He's going to have that moment or one of the kids,
despite the way he's done.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
You know so far, is going to do something nice
for him at the beginning of this next episode and
it's going to pull on those heart strings and he's
gonna have a change. So I don't think he's the
bad guy. That then begs the question who is the
bad guy? Because Star Wars has bad guys? Is it
the supervisor who we don't know, the voice behind the curtain,

(20:39):
but I don't know. I mean, it would be awesome,
honestly if he is just straight up the bad guy,
because we don't always do that, and that gives you
a empire kind of ending, a last Jedi kind of
ending to go, hey, it's not a happy ending. It's yeah,
this guy kind of was a dick and that's the
way it goes.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
You know. To me, it almost feels like the the
villain has been just what they've run into along the way.
Because it's my set. I believe the Willy Wonka thing.
So I'll give a little bit of my Yeah, screw it, well,
I'll just I'll put it all out there. I'll put
it out there. I don't care. I want I want
to hear from you, and if you're if you're, if

(21:20):
you're watching, I want to hear from you. I want
you to dial in. We have our good friend Eric
who's already dialed in. I want to die I want
you to die in and tell us what you think
or leave us a voicemail. There's again another Chekhov's gun
that was left was at the beginning of the episode.
Wim says, we I still have to take my assessment.

(21:41):
So I believe that this is WiM's assessment, and I
feel like somehow John or Snowballs I'll get to that
this is this is his trial. And I feel like
at the end of this episode, at the end of
this series, somehow Whim and SM thirty three and Snowball

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will go off in the Onyx sender and protect at Aton,
which is where he could show up in the in
the in the Folony verse with protecting at Aton from Throng.
There could be a connection there. But I would love
this whole thing to have been his test. Once he
found the ship, once he turned it on, and and

(22:27):
and Snowball and SM thirty three realized that this kid
has figured out this trick. He's the you know, he's
inherited Wonka's factory, and it's his job now to see
if he can survive and figure out the mystery and
get there. And you know, it's sort of that that
concept of you know, maybe it's the friends we made

(22:48):
along the way, and so the role that Fern and
Neil and KB played maybe maybe uh expanded in that.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
So So I just real quick one thing that that
just makes me think of is a Star War celebration
in Anaheim. On stage they announced we finished shooting Skeleton
Crew and that was the first time I had ever
heard of it and they had finished. So that's why
when you look at the kids now, they're all older

(23:16):
and stuff. So I would love to see something like
what you described. But I want I want all the
kids right, you know, once ad at and gets discovered
you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, right.
I would love to see because, especially in the last episodes,
we got to see the kids working together. We got
to see them with an engineer, a captain, a pilot,

(23:38):
and a gunner. And I want to see them realize that,
you know, because this whole show was based off of
the you know, and that checkouts come him saying I
still have to take my assessment.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yep, he doesn't want to grow up.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
That's been his story throughout this entire thing, and correct,
what are pirates but big kids? You know what I mean,
which is why there's a similar between Pirate Code and
just say unclaims ease because they're so stupid and childish
and so. But what's happening on that AD I think
is also the enemy. Right, it's pure conformity, and I

(24:14):
don't think there's anyone at the top. This is something
that was scripted a long time ago, and they're just
doing this thing just to do this thing. So I
would love to see because he wants to help people.
They have a ship, they have a mining crew. I
want to see, you know, a little time jump to
where they're you know, kind of teenagers and they're using
the wealth of this planet to help people around the galaxy.

(24:37):
That's what I.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Want, well, and I think I think that's one of
the big challenges with this show right now, and again
it's going to be it's so important that they land
this plane. This show. This show has to end at
eight episodes and if they do more, it can pick
up from there. But we can't leave things dangling because
to your point, now, the the loft cat is head

(24:57):
of the bag. There's a planet with one one hundred
and thirty nine vaults full of credits, so much wealth
that this, you know, this would ruin the galactic economy
if this guy out there, and it's so it's it's
a really interesting which is why I think I think

(25:17):
we all thought, well, this is gonna have some sort
of connection to the first order and building, you know,
the final order, and that's maybe that's where it goes,
and maybe that's how it happens. But how do they
leave this with a positive feeling?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
And how do they do it? Because I'm with you, Chaco,
He's whim is truly the Luke Skywalker of this series, right,
doesn't love his life, wants adventure, wants it. But now
that he's seen it, you know, it's it's the classic
hero's journey. Now that he comes home, he needs to
bring that home with him and what is he going
to do with it? And how is he going to

(25:51):
to to elevate that? Nick, We didn't get your thoughts.
How does this series end?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I honestly have no idea. I think it has to
end and on I think at this point, and basically
with the rumors that we heard, you know, in that
news story, it ends on some version of the kids
are in a good place. I don't think we end with,
you know, an empire strikes back, ending for the kids themselves,
but it ends in a way that, yes, it could

(26:19):
be season two, or it can jump over to the
Feloney movie with some version of something The thing that
stuck with me based on what the two of y'all
just said, excuse me, is these kids out doing good
in the galaxy. I said for a bunch of years
that the bad Batch was supposed to be Star Wars eighteen.
Maybe Skeleton Crew is teenage Star Wars a team and

(26:41):
they go out into the galaxy and you know, Heroes
for Hire flying around in the onyxinder throw red stripe
on there, like the eighteen band, like.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Let's make that happen.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I'm all about that, Like, let these kids go out,
And honestly, it also feels a little bit like Young
Jedi Adventures. You've got kids in a spaceship flying around
doing some things. Like there feels like some synergy there
that I hadn't considered before. But you know, empower these
kids to go out and do some things and help

(27:12):
because they've left the safety of the planet that they
grew up in this bubble like everybody else did. They've
seen what's outside of it. You know, it's the joke
we made at the I think after the first episode,
what's outside of Pleasantville? You know, they've gone outside of Pleasantville.
They're back now, and now they get to go out
and go, oh, we know some ship, we've had some experiences. Let's,

(27:34):
you know, do what we can do.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
So I don't know. I have no idea, but I'm
really excited to find out.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, and I think you give them is John is
he for sensitive? Is he a former Jedi? Or is
he using tricks like uh like uh from Camille did
in uh in Kenoby? What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Uh Chaco.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think he's definitely for sensitive. The reason I said
he would I believe him to be a padawan who's
left who's left the order is because of the limits
of what he's done. He hasn't done any extensive training.
He kind of does what is still natural to him.
A scene that comes to mind is when when Smeem

(28:25):
starts going off you know, Limb from Limb, and he
dives over to flip the switch, and then the question
is why didn't he just do that with a force.
I don't think he can, So it's gonna be it's
easy to force push something over than it is to
do small and very precise manipulations. I don't think he
ever got to that level.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Additionally, I don't think he wants people to know he's
for sensitive because you know there's a bounty on there's
this bounty on your ass, and you gotta pirates aren't
known for being super charitable.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he did use the force to
get the handcuffs off.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
The handcuffs of the best.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Description I think it was New rock Stars said it
was very similar to in Justice League. I think it
was where or maybe Batman v. Superman where Superman is
wearing the handcuffs the whole time and they didn't do anything.
I mean, he knew he could just take him off.
The same thing with John. He just you know, when
he needed them off, he did it. So I like that,
and I think that's part of the really interesting intrigue

(29:29):
about John is he clearly I don't think it's tricks.
I think he does have the force. I'm with you
on it. I think he does too, And that's and
that's a very interesting thing. Why isn't he use it?
I mean he's a pirate, I mean a pirate with
the Force. I mean Hondo and Aka wanted Ezra to
be a pirate with the Force forever. So I think
it's I think it is really interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
His his greatest strength has been not letting anyone know
who he is. That's why he has a dozen names
and aliases, and he's known as different things. And the
more you can keep that under wraps, like I think,
if he was fully out there as a four sensitive pirate,
you know, you can't really have aliases because you're like, no,
you're the forest guy.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I've heard, we know you. Yep, yep for sure. Well
let's let's quickly go through some of the Easter eggs
and then we're going to bring in some calls and we'll
keep this conversation going. All right, I have.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
All right before we get to this is this is
we'll call it my easter egg. Maybe Chaco talked about
I think you said, you know, whim with the lightsaber.
Here's what I need. I Neednel with the lightsaber. That
was the thing I want before this you talked about
the turret. I want Neil with the lightsaber. I want
there to be a moment where he stands up and

(31:01):
goes no, and we get that little blue badass just
rocking it ready to go.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
That's that's the one I want.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So, I mean, you saw what his dad looks like,
and if you had that looks like that I enjoyed.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
That you're sitting down.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, but again again. So let's let's call that at
Chucks a good he he was U fought with his
cloiticalte lightsaber with with women the very first episode, right
while they're waiting for the bus.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
So let's do it.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
If they made this, I want Neil with the light
Neil Nation on social media will lose their mind.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
God, that will be unbearable.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
And that's fine. I will join, I will lead the parade.
Mark it down right now.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Send me a picture of Neil with a lightsaber that
I can hang on my wall, and.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I'll do it. I'm gonna make one for you, Okay,
So a handful of things and and uh chuck o
and and Nick, let me know if I missed anything.
I mean, the deeper we get into the show, the
fewer and fewer strikes there are. But that's the way,
you know, I think that's actually good. I mean, there's
a ton of these strikes. There's probably a million things
that we missed in the background. But a couple of
things that I noticed John Stance when he ignites the

(32:10):
lightsaber in front of the parents, were in front of
the kids rather very anakin in the child murder scene
from Return Revenge of the Sith. The Pirate snub fighters
were the ones that we saw in Mandalorian season three.
It was so funny. I was watching it with the
loo Oh they are all the cool and my son said,

(32:34):
while we're watching it, my twelve year old, he said,
didn't we build one of those out a lego? I
was like, you're right, those are the ships. That's the
one right there.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
And that was the one that when we watched Mando
season three. I don't think we were doing a recapture
or anything, but I texted you when that scene was
over when Vain got away, yep said, I said to him,
we're going to see him again, and I knew were
right that was coming back. That was one of the
few times I've called it and got it right.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
You have you have to live in those moments, man.
They don't happen off and we.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Have to own them.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yep. Neil's mom almost said I have a bad feeling
about this. She said, I have a bad feeling and
that she was zapped. My favorite one, because and it's
the last one I have, is is that Stephen Frye
is the voice of the Supervisor And for me, I
know he's done a million things, but for me, Stephen
Frye is the voice of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy,

(33:28):
which ties into my belief that, uh, Snowball is the
key to everything. Snowball is connected somehow to either the
Supervisor or attack or both. And I put up a
little social media clip this morning about you know, it

(33:49):
was very deliberate that John didn't step on him or
throw him when he they they made it very clear
another Chekhov's gun that he just sort of swept him
off to the side of the slood. Those that's CGI resources.
You don't do that unless there's a reason. You need
to know that this little rat is still alive. So

(34:11):
I don't know what the connection is, but I believe
he's the key to everything. I just don't know what
that is.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
So that scene, that scene is the one thing that
makes me think that John is redeemable. Yes, because how
humans treat animals androids determines whether or not they're good
or bad.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I agree with that. Yep.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, Just a quick side note. You know, the amount
of vaults that there were was one one three woman
for nine, which is one more than you know, TX
want create, which is a similar plot to what's happening
on a Aton, So I wanted to add that.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
So here's what I decided with the one, one, three nine.
This is going to be the most extreme reach, and
I hope nobody else has made this connection. I hope
we can put this on social media. It's one, one, three,
eight plus one more. And if you've ever seen spinal Tap,
that amp goes to eleven, it's not ten.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
It goes to eleven because it's one more. So this vault,
this is the Star Wars spinal Tap moment. I'm calling
it right now.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I love that. Well, what did you just make ten latter? Well,
it goes to eleven.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
To eleven.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Also, I don't know that it's actually an easy lag
or not. But when I first saw the inside of
the vault, I was like, oh, you can hide the.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Arc of the Covenant in there, the Covenant coded.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, yeah, but like Aadiana Jones vault hiding stuff, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I do have to say that was the only scene
in this entire series so far that felt to me
like the volume. I felt like it was on escape
from Gringott's vault from down in Orlando. I don't know
if you had a chance to ride that in Orlando
Universal Studios. I felt like I was in a ride
more than.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
I felt like Polar Express.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
When they started the credit starts spilling on top of him.
There's that moment I was like, is this Polar Express?
Like it felt a little too. That's like you said,
is the first time the show there? Felt like I
felt the CGI.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yep, yep. Well cool, Well we do have at least
one caller on the line, and let's bring him in,
all right. Well, we have, of course a little bumper
when we want to bring in a caller, and this
is a call that we've had before. He's back to

(36:42):
bringing his streak to life. Here he is.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
So he talks first, You talk first, I talk first.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
There he is honest, Claude, Eric, how are you doing
my right? See?

Speaker 5 (37:01):
We have Pete Rock, we have neck Ross, and we
have as.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Ye I'm doing it right.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I really enjoyed this episode.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
You know what was it a job? His reaction to
seeing the daties, you know, he's going from uh, this
litly old poor pirate to Manson Musa in like a
couple of seconds is one of my favorite parts of
this show period. It's prepared acting the show. But that's
something more important to talk about. I have a conspiracy.

(37:38):
Oh okay, so you know shock T. Yes, the only
real shock Ta in Legends is the one that shows
up in Force Unleashed. The other two that we see
die are clones.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Really, where's uh Chaco? I went for that to you?
You your lord, You're you're the lord.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I mean that that that was the incontinuity death for her,
So I'm into it. Well, we see three deaths.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Uh. And obviously those deleted scenes are wishy washy of continuity, obviously,
but I feel like you still make it work by
establishing that shot T had a romantic relationship with Cyphodias
and like what what what what jngle wanted as like

(38:41):
him like helping out the chemin OANs was on auto clone.
What he wanted was the love of his life, free
animated because she just died, because she just keeps dying.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I want you to write more.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
And why am I saying this?

Speaker 5 (39:03):
I'm just like, think about how different her depiction is
in the Force and Leash.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
She she's a different girl, Like there's no way she
would dress up like that.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
In the other versions we see of her like, she's
way more modest and reserved.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
And I know, but is there a connection because it's
hard on a fallution.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's hard on a fallution, is there?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (39:26):
I still think of hers like, you know, she would
be dressed up like a Catholic nun.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
And in South.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
America she just would would bear through it. She would
use affordabilities to help keep herself cool. But no, this
version of shot t oh, she's dressed up like a
final Fantasy character.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Okay, have I have I missed a shock t scipho
deist connection somewhere? Does that? Is that cannon anywhere?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
No, beforehand, no, I love big in the leap. I
just wanted to make sure that it wasn't like based
in something that I wasn't aware of.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Uh Pete trying to protect his fan card? Should he
be turning that in right now?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I just want to make sure that I didn't have
my fan card revoked? But all right, so real quick.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Reader?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Uh caught card revoked?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah? Yeah, God knows that.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I don't know that he was ever assigned one.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah no, never had it?

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yeah yeah, back when a pair it was you know,
nice and dark.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Well, we do have another call. My hair is never dark.
It was always it was a beautiful blonde.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
All right.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
On that note, Eric, we are going to let you go.
We will see you next week, I hope. And I
want to hear what you think about the end of
Skeleton Crew when we get there. So dude, take it easy.
Ye peat, he's still there. There you goes, okay, love.

(41:23):
When Eric calls, I usually don't know what's going to happen.
I'm always glad he's there. But hey, we do have
another caller. Here we go through. Hi, I'm holding for
General Huggs. This is Huks.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Okay, I'll hold.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Hello, yep, I'm still here.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Look who it is. Mister Chris is Star Wars figures himself. Hey, Chris,
I needed a handsome man at pro Actump Post. Do
you have Black Sea these action figures?

Speaker 6 (42:02):
I have a couple, Okay, not like a huge amount.
It's not what you know. I based the store out.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Your your voice went up at the end there like
there is a question, you know, So.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
What are we are we talking? Skeleton Crew? We're talking.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
We were like, yeah, we are Skeleton Grow if we can't, yeah, we're.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Talking about the harem of.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
No idea, no Idea.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
I love that episode in Skeleton Crew when they talked.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
About that.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Of shot that's involved eleven forty.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
Yeah, don't dip it in the more that in season four.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Ah, So what are your thoughts? Where are you going
with this as far as the finale goes?

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Like the series as a whole, have it, Flora is yours, mister.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Flora is you for the series as a whole?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
As an eighties kid?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I love it, absolutely love it.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Uh you know, I love I love the There are
people who who couldn't get attached to these kids. They
like it took them like five six episodes, and like
I was there from the beginning. Yeah, like like every
you know, like I felt for these kids, I like
especially you know, like I feel like I got a
little bit of both women and kneeling me a bit

(43:28):
and even and even and even uh Fern and k
to an extent all of them. But the way that
those kids were at the bus stop playing lightsabers.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Done that. I just did that. I just did that
last month. I'm fifteen. A couple of weeks.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
But yeah, it's like everything about this show, like it
is literally a sleeper hit I did.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
After Acolyte. I just I kind of was like, you know.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
I watched Scletic Crew and the come out because I
was just a little upset with Lucas film way they
handle things. Skeleton Crew has been like this, like if
you're a comic reader, it was it was a sleeper hit,
like the way Marvel Zombies was. It came out and
it just blew everything away and like it's it's it's
it is a special series. And I hope this continues

(44:20):
with them as like teens or or whatever going forward.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Let me let me ask a question because I think,
you know, there was something that was interesting that came
up when I was on screen Shark t would she
hook up with Wendell no a point. I think she might.
I think she might. I can tell you that season two,

(44:48):
when I was I was on screen Crash Yesterday, they
brought up if this show had come out before Acolyte,
if it would have done better and or I mean
they didn't have answer, which is a comment which I
thought was interesting, and or would Accolade have been received differently?
Because you know, this is as I put it, this
is the most Star Wars show to ever Star Wars,

(45:11):
I think other than you know, maybe Mandalorian, do you
think it might have been differently, I don't think it
would have mattered.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
You know, whatever's good is you know, when people like,
they liking what they don't like, they don't like. So yeah, yeah,
it doesn't, it doesn't. I don't think it would have mattered,
like when it came out.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
As far as I kind of a small disagreement with that.
I feel like there was a kind of a drought,
a content drought, with nothing but the act like on
the horizon for months, and so I think if that
content drought was leading to Skeleton Crew there, the hate

(45:50):
train wouldn't have been months long, and I think we
could have gotten at least, I don't know, a more
intelligent first.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
So instead of like one hundred percent hate, it'd be
like ninety four percent because these guys still would have
found a way to hate.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
On this show. Come on, just come.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
On, just yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
I'm trying to go there. But you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
I don't know if you guys, like I put in
the in the in the chat, I put a prediction
in there that I have for the finale.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Oh, let's hear it. Yeah, And I hate to be like, oh,
this guy's going to showup.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
That's guys going to show up, but it would make
sense because there's no coming back for for for Job
as far as I'm consent, there's no coming back for that. Interesting,
no no coming back, So that the Republican is going
to send Mando to come in and take care of

(46:57):
these pirates, like if they're going to bring these kids
or this cast and this show into the Mandal verse
and maybe into this movie. I like that time I
think to do that is you know that they have
him show up at the end, and either Mando's there
to fight him, and then like if he starts using
fource stuff, which I know he's not that skilled with
outside of like pulling stuff here and there, you've got

(47:18):
Grogu there to kind of balance that, or since there's
now another Force user in the Republic, not so much
Luke but Ezra, they could both be going there to
handle the pirates and.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
To handle Job holding Grogu. I will I will cease
to exist.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Will Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, Star Wars, Star Wars, Twitter will evaporate it's too much.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, yeah. Matthew says there's a seventy seven chance of that.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I I I you know what I think, and I'm
only willing to accept that if they're escorted in an
X wing by Carson Teva.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Yes, yeah, there's been a there's been like a shocking
lack of that, dude, But we don't know where in
the in the in the you know, the the Republican
New Republican erad this is dew We like, there's no well,
I think it's time.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
The assumption is that it's at the same time as
the Mandalorian, right, all right, because those are the one pirate. Yeah, so,
and it would make sense what you're saying makes sense
because Carsoneva did sort of negotiate with Mando at the
end of season three. Hey we may call you for
a little little help. And if they are going to
perhaps bring some of these this crew into the movie

(48:42):
that was releasing as it were, Yeah, they could start
to plant some of those seeds. That'd be very interesting.
That'd be interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I mean, there's been X wings that have been tracking
them down this entire time. You know, who's to say,
you know, Zaba's I'm one of those pilots.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
Oh man, you bring it. Just star wars it up
on that last episode, do it didn't? Did the tips
into the middle of the table.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Did Kim put some sort of tracker on the Alex sender?
I mean because she found maybe at Lapo or wherever
it is, Lena or maybe KB. Yeah, the KB and
Wi Kim are I like this, Matthew, Now you're just

(49:32):
now you're just playing with Come on now stop that.
That would be amazing. I'll take that too. Lando shows
up and kicks on the Soga falls out of a wormhole, boom,
right into the whole picture.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
But it happened.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Yeah, what happened just like like an Avengers type thing.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, I'll take it. This is what happens when we
take phone calls. But no, but I do I do
like that. I think it's a I think it's a
I think it would be very cool. It would be
a unique way to do it. So and you did
just make you think go ahead, chocolate.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Oh you didn't just make me think of one thing though,
because I can definitely see, especially these are connected. I
can see a world in which that technology has been
used to hide the planet, to create an artificial gas
giant that's hollow surrounding it. Beautiful scene by the way, Yes,
but I could see drawn finding out about that technology
and using it to his advantage. And one of the

(50:32):
books there was a vision so of no sorry and
uh in the Throng trilogy he has a whole bunch
of star destroyers that are waiting inside of us field.

Speaker 9 (50:43):
Yeah, yeah, he's now we just set up that technology,
uh to do that, you know, just gonna start a
conflict next to a gas giant and all of a
sudden a bunch of star destroyers just gonna fly out
of it.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Well I can, I can, actually I can almost in
my head here Thron saying like I don't need the credits,
I just need the technology, and like that's like all
he like, because he wouldn't care about that, right, he
just would want Oh man, Yeah, so there are definitely Hey, fanboy, Cantina,
thanks for stopping in. I can definitely see so. But

(51:18):
that to me is the biggest challenge with this show,
and we'll we'll we'll wrap up here. The biggest challenge
with the show is if there's a planet that literally
has you know, almost thirty nine vaults full of credits
that screws up the entire galaxy. So something has to
happen where either a this planet is destroyed or B

(51:40):
it is again forgotten about because it needs or C.
And this is the this is the somehow Palpatine returned.
Palpatine gets his hands on this and uses it to
make the first order, right, that's the one. Yeah, somehow
Palpatine returned. Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So well that is it for this week here on
ATG Live and Beyond the Barrier. Chaco, thank you so
much for joining us. Chris. It was great to see
you back on the screen with us, and of course
Eric and all of you hung out with us in
the chat and hung out with us on Twitter. Guys,

(52:23):
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Speaker 6 (52:42):
I mean, I don't defense what's doing it, but yeah,
we finally got that email too.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
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(53:09):
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(53:33):
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whatever you're buying comics?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Uh? Why are you going to the big guys? You
don't need your money?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
No, no, do you realize if you were to buy
five Black Series figures from Target that covers that's like,
that's nothing for them? Five block series figures for Broxim Outposts.
That's a good day. That's a good day for these guys.
So go check them out. Help out our friend Chris.
You as I said before, and I'm gonna make the
shirt for you. Chris. You're gonna buy the ship anyway,

(54:21):
Go do it for Chris. We have fifty one people
watching on Twitter right now. If you're gonna buy something,
go to Broaxium outposts dot com right.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Now that use the promo code ATG ten for two
off ten.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
We just raised. It's like it's like potathon. We just
hit the ten percent ag ten. Go out there and
pot some stuff and get tempera sent off target. Somecking
give you ten percent off and they're gonna ship it
like garbage. So just for the costplane.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
You know it's still got that balin skull force effects
saber coming in. Well, it's up there for pre order
with the a whole bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
You know, you got my money. You know I'm coming
to you. Actually, I'm here. On a side note, Chris.
In February, our friends the Screen Crush are doing a
show live in Philly. I'm gonna come down and maybe
you and I can go and head over to that together.
So it's a whole other story. What day is that?

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Is that happening?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I'm not sure. I don't even know what today is,
so we'll figure it out. I just know it's Thursday.
Is it a Thursday? Oh no, today's Thursday. It's ATG Live.
It's Thursday. Well with that, Nick, Sorry, this has fallen
completely out of my control. Nick.

Speaker 10 (55:37):
May the Force be with you always.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
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