Chad the Bird Strikes Back: Josh Zagoren on Comedy, Chaos & Star Wars

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Doors well Welcome to AGG Live, your Thursday night home
for all things Star Wars. I'm one of your hosts,
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Nick Milkie, Nick, what has happened? Brother?

Speaker 8 (02:05):
Well, so the problem was this intro was going to
work because I was going to stare at you angrily
for the really jackass thing that you just texted me
right before we went on live.

Speaker 7 (02:15):
And then I ruined it by being needed.

Speaker 8 (02:17):
So we're here, we're ours saying we're we're doing what
we do and yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 7 (02:23):
It is gonna be a lot of fun. We have
a special guest, Josh Zigorin and his puppet bird Chad.
So we have never had a puppet live on ATG
Live before, so I'm excited about that. I'm excited to
talk to Chad. And if any of you have not
found Chad the Bird yet on either Instagram or TikTok,
you are definitely going to want to do that as

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Speaker 7 (04:23):
And we do itnything lots of words, now, yeah, we do.
Speaking of lots of words, we bring those news stories
in like two hundred and fifty. You just need to
know what you know, right, You don't need to know
so nobody got time for all that. Yeah, I mean,
just just tell me what I need to know. And
speaking of telling us what we need to know, thank
you very much, Matthew. Matthew says, I'm slowly morphing into
older Kenny Rogers older, Oh, Kady Rogers older, Kitty.

Speaker 8 (04:47):
Rob Kenny Rodgers was always old, but then he got
really bad plastic surgery and so we started to look
like that. So fun fact, my mother's all time favorite
music artists, both of them.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
One is Kinny Rogers, the other is Alice Cooper.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
So I grew up all my life going my mom
loves Alice Cooper, like loved him in high school. And
it was the two things that obviously don't match up
and don't mix, but she loved Kenny Rogers. Went to
Kenny Rogers concert and he threw out a tambourine. She
caught the tambourine at Kenny Rodgers concert, like just you know,
the weird cross section of the world. So I have
listened to a lot of Kenny Rogers in my day.

Speaker 7 (05:22):
And that was young Kenny Rogers, that's right.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
And at the time I thought he was old, because
you know, when you're a kid, everybody was old. It
turns out he was probably like forty and he looked
like he was one hundred.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
Right, Yeah, do yourself favor of your gen X school.
Look up how old the Golden Girls were when he awake?
Call ruin your day? In fact, yes, I don't know.
I don't know how to make that connection, but I
had to bring you in. Golden girl, you're a golden girl?
How's that?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Is that? Good?

Speaker 6 (05:50):
No?

Speaker 9 (05:51):
No, don't tell me, old what the hell's wrong with you?

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Come on?

Speaker 7 (05:57):
You know kind of? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
Hold up, hold up by just go back to I
have to go back to.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
I'm still trying to rectify Kenny Rogers and Alice Cooper.

Speaker 9 (06:07):
That and then also popop pop, lock and drop it,
like what is that cross section of music there? Like?

Speaker 6 (06:13):
What is wrong with you tonight?

Speaker 8 (06:15):
For getting you the news? However you want to consume it.
It's not our business.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
What a mess? What a mess?

Speaker 7 (06:22):
Happy Thursday? This is the way every Thursday goes well cool,
And you know it's also just not a Thursday unless
we do our toast. And it's a new month, Nick,
it is August. That means a new a new celebratory.
We toast.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
We have a new theme for our toasts for the week.
And I found this in I actually think it belonged
to one of my kids at some point. It is
the there it is the Ahsoka saber nice. It is
the month of Soca, and I have to give a
shout out. My nine year old came up with that
last week, right before the show. She's like, Dad, what
about Soca? So I've corrupted my children into helping me

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come up with silly drinking games for my podcast.

Speaker 9 (07:08):
They are like, you know, just improving their lives.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
Well, it depends on what it says.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
All right, I'm saying corrupted in case d HR is watching,
but we all know that it's improving. So it is Soca.
We have our Soca, a Soka action figure that is
going to go into this beer. Yes at the bottom
because Ahsoka's don't float.

Speaker 7 (07:31):
It's a smaller figure than you.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
And that's right, fun fact for everybody, which means she's
not a witch.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
Right, isn't that how that works?

Speaker 6 (07:40):
This this week, which is now you get.

Speaker 8 (07:47):
Turns out actually turns out Ahsca's do float. I'm raising
my toast to Chris tonight because Chris is in here.
So that's what happens when you're not here, you get toasted.
You miss us out on it. He did create our
video for us, our little tens a post video. So
I'm going to raise this toast to Chris. Happy O

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Soca and happy Star Wars.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
He didn't die, and now she's stuck in the middle,
proud of you. The beer between beers, that's where she is,
all right. The world between beers, which I think is
Friday through Wednesday, that's the world beers.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Perot.

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and then when we come back, we're going to be
joined by Josh sa Goran and later in the show,
Chad the Bird is going to be with us to
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Speaker 8 (09:36):
Local business small well not local to me, no small business. Yeah,
I mean, I guess anything's local. If you're willing to
take the time Philly to Alabama, whatever it, sure.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
I mean, ups will make it work. So I want
to introduce our guest for tonight. Josh sa Goran is
an actor, comedian, playwright, and puppeteer. He's appeared in Chicago
Med and Chicago Fire. I know a bunch of friends
from Chicago who are in the acting space and they've
ended up on those shows as well as always they'd
love to take those local actors, which is awesome. But

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we know him from his wild rants as the puppet
Chad the Bird. On Instagram, on YouTube, on TikTok plus.
You can find him live in Chicago for the next
I think six or seven Saturdays at the Green Mill Lounge.
So please welcome Josh Zagorn. That was a jam.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Don't stop the jam.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
What's going on Josh, Hello.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
I'm okay. How is everybody good?

Speaker 7 (10:40):
You know, I realized that I didn't ask how to
say your last name?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Nailed it off the tip.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Afraid we're gonna be like, no, it's Zagarin, please, that's.

Speaker 10 (10:49):
The one that everybody assumes that it is. And I
was like, now that Gore is in the middle, and like,
I did have a coach once when I was a
kid that pronounced it Zaragaran for a year until I
was like, you're making it harder, you like.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Making this more difficult than it needs to be. It's
just a very simple name. Some idiot from Jersey's gotta
nailed it on the first try.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Nailed it, killed it, owned it, love it.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Nice as well.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
We're excited to hear this is gonna be a lot
of fun. We're looking forward to hanging out. Having an
intro there, he did a little bit of an intro.
But tell us a little bit more about yourself. About Chad, well, oh.

Speaker 10 (11:23):
Man, what is there to tell It's not a very
interesting I have a bird that is a puppet that
I do, live at the Green Mill in Chicago and
a tour as Chad all over the place.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Been doing that since two thousand and six, there.

Speaker 10 (11:39):
Was a sketch show that I was in where they
wanted a It was a porn themed sketch show.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
So I was like, I'm okay, I'm interested. I want
to know what you're going to do with that.

Speaker 10 (11:49):
And one of the bits was they were like, hey,
would you write something about like a puppet and a person.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Having sex for the first time.

Speaker 10 (11:56):
So I wrote this sketch and then they were like, also,
we don't have any puppet.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
It's because nonprofit theater.

Speaker 10 (12:01):
And they allowed me access to their basement and I
found whatever I.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Could find lying around.

Speaker 10 (12:08):
I kind of Frankenstein monstered this puppet and they loved it.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
And now that was two thousand and six, nineteen years later.
This is all I do so and that was.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
The creation of Chad for that show.

Speaker 10 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, I did it for a porn themed sketch show,
Frankenstein out of parts from a nonprofit theater's basement.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
It's whereas come from.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, It's where all good ideas begin if I had
a dime.

Speaker 10 (12:36):
Yeah, But eventually we had to like change the design,
we had to kind of make it more our things
so we could patent it. And now it's a it's
a new thing. It's like one piece, but back then
it was a bunch of little things kind of just
sewed together quickly.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
I love that. It's awesome. So I had I was
telling you before you came on and we we were
I was going through TikTok. No, it was Instagram one night,
as you do laying in bed instead of sleeping, just
like it's too an a zipping through.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Are you gonna know what everybody's hot takes are?

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Well, that's true. I need that. I need I need
you for some reason. My algorithm. My daughter is like,
what are you looking at? My algorithm has a lot
of magicians. I don't know what that is.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
It's better than most algorithms. It's true.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
It's just like those.

Speaker 10 (13:24):
Guys doing a card trick and I'm like, I'm over here.
I think it's an insane clown posse.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
For last Catorn, I.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Don't know what I'm looking at, and I fact you
did this whole thing on droids. But for the people
who aren't familiar with you, I'm gonna play I have
a little clip here that I want to play of
you just talking Star Wars, just like five or six
different Star Wars clips you've done. I'm guessing you've got
a certain level of nerdity. I mean, I'm just looking
at you. You got some Star Wars action happening. So

(13:55):
this this is a clip that I pulled together from
from one of your Instagram clips.

Speaker 10 (13:59):
Here this probably most interesting fuck you to me is
the logo for Return of the Jedi. It's just times
new Roman, the diet coke of fonts, excuse me.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Typefaces now, arab besh.

Speaker 11 (14:13):
That's the text you see in all the Star Wars
computers and stuff in and all the shows and the
movies and the merch and the price tags on everything
at Galaxy's Edge, which personally, I think is the ultimate
expression of Star Wars, because I dare you not to
be so overwhelmed with nostalgia and emotion, especially if you
survive the special editions when you see the Millennium falcon
in the real in front of your face. But anyway,
arabsh that's the language and typeface, like I was saying,

(14:35):
Stephen Crane, but it was based on random symbols from
Return of the Jedi.

Speaker 10 (14:38):
Because that is what typefaces are. They're symbols you agree
have meaning. Humans that's how you connect. That's all we
got humans, You and me, and the star wars in between,
communicating thoughts and truth to stories to crust this and
all generations to come, leaping through time, one letter to
the next, surrounding us and binding us.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Fuck the fascists, the Empire. We're gonna win this war.

Speaker 10 (15:02):
Not by fighting what we hate, but by saving what
we love.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Save the rebellion, save the dream.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
May the Fourth be with you, you, you, and also
with you. I love you.

Speaker 10 (15:11):
You're not.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
Blah nrvy the absolute checklist of amazing things in that
rant that I got.

Speaker 10 (15:24):
So much heat for doing a Rose Teaco quote the rogue.
The brogans out there really don't.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Like you when it's not their favorite. But that's too bad.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
That's too bad on you. I'm sorry you hate fun.
It's not my prosy.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 8 (15:37):
And I will say, right near the top of that list,
Times New Roman, the diet coke of typefaces is just
just because it is, because it is.

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Let's let's off, let's off all flavor.

Speaker 10 (15:51):
I'm finally finally saying you, guys, we're finding this is
the real truth.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
These are hard what we already knew.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
There's so much going on in the world. People are
forgetting the.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Time New Roman is the dyed Coca fat It's flavor.

Speaker 8 (16:03):
Thought, so it makes the question is common sense? Is
comic sands like the tab is it the surge cola
from the like early two thousand.

Speaker 10 (16:12):
Oh no, it's even goofier than that. It's like a
big red It's like a bubblegum flavors where you're just.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Like, what are you doing? And like I love it
and you're like, yeah, you do you.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Know, like sure, yeah, I could tell you.

Speaker 10 (16:23):
Okay, man, I love green Rivers. That's probably like Helvetica.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
But there you go, that's totally fine.

Speaker 8 (16:31):
Well, I do want to ask this because obviously, like
Pize said, there are several of your clips that have
Star Wars flavor to it. There's clearly a fandom there.
You know, it was just kind of a quit, you know,
quick rundown. Where did your Star Wars fandom start? What
was your origin story? How did it hit for you?

Speaker 12 (16:44):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (16:45):
Well, Jedi was eighty three, so I was three years
old when I saw that, and and then yeah, it
was for me. I think the first real clear Star
Wars memory I have is Job of the Hut, like
when you first see him for the first time, for
the first the actual first time, not the special con second,
third time or whatever the hell, And I just remember

(17:07):
being so impressed and not scared of that, but like
I was terrified of everything. I remember being terrified of
e t and Gremlins and anything that ran at me
and was like lit and rubbery and sweaty, which was
most of the movie monsters from.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
The everything in the eighties.

Speaker 10 (17:21):
Yeah, but I remember Job of the Hut just kind
of always fascinated me. And I had birthday parties where
my parents would get their friends to dress up like
Star Wars characters. One birthday party that I have pictures
of where their friend came in like a full Darth
Vader cosplay, and yeah, hut shaming. Eric Elliott agreed, total
Hutch shaming, but yeah, there was. It was always kind

(17:43):
of like permeated in my culture, Like in my family,
we always had a Star Wars thing. Yeah, it was
just always around always. It's It's as comfortable and normal
to me as like chicken soup in a blanket.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
So I'm like, yeah, Star Wars, that's.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Where we are I'm going to clip this out because
I would to buy a Darth Vader costume that fifteen
years ago eight hundred dollars. My wife was like, you're
not spending eight hundred dollars on a Darth Vader because
I said, yes, but I'll make it back in birthdays
in like two months.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Right, listen.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
That's so you're not wrong, man, But no, now now
I don't have it, and we don't have that kind
of cash flow, because it could have been a whole stream.

Speaker 10 (18:21):
A whole opportunity, get a sponsorship, get like a little get,
like a little NASCAR jacket, going for that Darth Vader costume.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Right when you're dragging the big box. You got, yeah,
pikers all around.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
I like where this's go make it happen.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
So yeah, I know that was that was the That's it.
It was just kind of always around. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
You also you also have the bat two hat on,
so your level of Star Wars nerdicity is pretty.

Speaker 10 (18:45):
This is the hat I bought in space because I
went to Galaxy's Edge and I absolutely literally needed that.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
I was like, I always like to buy one thing
when I go to fun.

Speaker 10 (18:56):
Places, and this was the thing. I absolutely wanted to have.
I used to have an X Wing Fighter Cat and had,
but that's gone now. But yeah, I know that was
all a lout of biographical about crying when you see
the Millennium Falcon, because I absolutely did. And my fiance
had the phone right up here. What could she had
been there before? And the two of us were walking
around and she's like, got the phone right here, and

(19:17):
I'm looking at her and we're walking around the corner and.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I was like, I know what you're doing.

Speaker 10 (19:22):
You think I'm gonna cry when we turn and they're
gonna reveal it because it's Disney and you just everything
is a reveal and it's really immersive.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
If you haven't been to Galaxies Edge, those of you
watching the Walk.

Speaker 10 (19:32):
Between Toys when you go there for the first time,
go to Toy story Land and then go to Galaxies Edge,
because the walk between the two is crazy. The sound
effects change as you walk. You have to walk through
a little field, the tiles on the pathway change, the
lighting changes, and then suddenly you're in these rocks and
all you hear are weird Star Wars noises. It's immersive,

(19:55):
But then you turn the corner and then there's the
big Revere, there's the reveal, there's the black spire out
post or whatever, and then it's right there in front
of you, and she's got this video of me just
kind of going yep, yep, yeah, now they did a
real good job, real good job.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
That's great. No, they killed it.

Speaker 10 (20:13):
And you see me like wading off and she's following
me with the camera and I'm just yeah, it was
somebody turned on the hose man.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Just couldn't stop myself.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
Jine, Jasmine, how are you doing? You're soliloquy leword Jenkins is.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Okay, I want to throw something at you, Jasmine. Okay.

Speaker 10 (20:30):
So I called that the Ballad of Leroy Jackins and
I got not one, not two, but thirty.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Well, actually from people being like, you don't know.

Speaker 10 (20:38):
What a ballad is, a ballad is a song, I'm like, actually,
a ballad is an old poem they turned into a song.
They're like, yeah, more traditionally, and I'm like, dear, you're
more traditionally, So thank you for giving me some love
for that. Because it's always six o' one half does
know the comment section?

Speaker 7 (20:55):
So do you check the comment section off? And then
you're I mean, I do.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
I try to because I hate it.

Speaker 10 (21:00):
But it's more like we always check to make sure
there's no like horrible racist, sexist, anti trans, anti home
like any homophobia, any transphobia, because like I'll go through
and I'm like, I can tell you I don't care.
You're on your computer. Anybody can post a comment. The
internet's rest stop bathroom. But uh yeah, but yeah, you

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just want to make sure because we have a lot
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and we were like, well, we don't want people who
who have to deal with that on a daily baby
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Comment session because they don't want to deal You heard
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Speaker 10 (21:35):
You can change vote the change my mind, change my mind, Alabama.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
You're right, right, Yeah, I come from well and you're right.
And we're the same way about social media and comments
and things like that. Obviously with the YouTube channel and
you know, people will come in on our dumb takes
and things we hate.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
I do have to say and I have it saved
on my phone. One of my favorites.

Speaker 8 (21:57):
Somebody commented on one of our videos too elderly men
filming videos in teenager like rooms with about as much
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Speaker 8 (22:07):
I was gonna say to you, if my bedroom look
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Is what you're saying there, exactly, Go tell your mom
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Speaker 10 (22:29):
Yeah, it's like yeah, I mean yeah, we just do
it just to make sure that there's nothing awful, but
it's usually a skim, just kind of like.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
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Speaker 7 (22:42):
Thanks, great, Yes, thank you, thank you for stopping by.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Yeah, seriously, thank you for your opinion. It's always valid.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
Everything you love is the right thing.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
It's your favorite, is the best one, that's right?

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Your lines about he pick me out? Yeah exactly, Yes,
it doesn't matter. Yes, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yours man's the best one?

Speaker 7 (23:01):
Yes, none better, but yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
Yeah yeah, And I was just gonna say, you know,
we've hit typefaces, We've got the droid rent actually had
another former producer of ours text men, say, get him
to go on a droid rent.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
I'm not going to make you do that right now.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
Jasmine talked about Leroy Jenkins, But it begs the question
in your deep dives, a lot of the different things
you've got, the hand buzzer, novelty, cheese rolling competitions, like
you've covered a lot of ground. What are one or
two of your favorites of just things that even when
you hit that moment, you're like, man, that was really great.

Speaker 10 (23:37):
Oh, I mean like in terms of like things we
we did, we were like, that is fascinating.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
I'm blown away by this. Absolutely. We just did one.
What was the last one we did?

Speaker 10 (23:48):
It was about the ninety It was about the baby
that was born, was a thirty year old embryo that
was frozen and then successfully.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Completed and birthed. I thought that was pretty wild.

Speaker 10 (23:58):
Yeah, man, My favorite ones are the like the ones
about the like the poop cruise, or like the story
about the guy you threatened to blow up a home
depot bathroom but it turned out he was just talking
about taking a giant dump.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Like it's that stuff that just blows my mind. There
was one.

Speaker 10 (24:18):
My favorite one that I think I've written that I've
always mentioned is my favorite.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Is I did want about It's not very exciting because.

Speaker 10 (24:25):
It's always it's always the ones that I like that
everyone's like, yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 10 (24:31):
I did this one about when Orson Wells's final movie
was finished, the Other Side of the Wind. I think
it's what's called, And it was a I wrote Chad
wrote a screenplay about the making of Citizen, about the
making of the Other Side of the Wind, And I
just had so much fun writing that.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
And I guarantee you'll go back and watch it and you'll.

Speaker 10 (24:52):
Go, yeah, that's fine. Sure, but yeah, now that one
was my favorite. Mine's always the boring ones. But any
anytime we get to talk about him, all I get excited.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
So yeah, how.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Much of that stuff do you like keep in your
head after you've done it, because like it's you're you're
pouring out like dates and me.

Speaker 10 (25:10):
That's one of the reasons why I'm always like, if
you want to ask me questions about specific events, let
me know ahead.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Of time so I can find my notes heads up.

Speaker 10 (25:18):
Because after a while you're just kind of like, ah,
I don't know, go back and watch the video. I
said it, then I meant it. Whatever I said I
stand by, but it does. It's some of it sticks.
There's some like wild stuff, like the fact that, yeah,
like the Times New Roman thing, I'll never forget that
that Return of the Jedi is just an elongated Times
New Roman and that like the Oh, speaking of Leroy Jenkins,

(25:42):
it's still fresh in the mind. There was an onslaught
of cowtriders that were super mad that I didn't mention
EverQuest or Ultimate online when talking about the history of
mm RPGs, and I was like, well, I only have
ten minutes, and I'm not really talking about that. I'm
talking about Leroy Jenkins. I'm trying to get you there. Also,

(26:03):
how long do you want me to go? But they
kept saying that never Winter Nights was not the first
graphical mm RPG, and I was so mad because I
was like, I had to learn this. You don't have
to learn I did this for you. But yet you

(26:24):
keep hammering at me that that's not true. And I'm like,
you're doing this on a device that is connected to
the Internet. It is possible that maybe you can google
this on your own damn set the answer, and here's
what you're gonna find exactly what I found, which is
the reason why I told you that. No, but it's
that never Winter Nights in nineteen ninety one for AOL,

(26:46):
not the two thousand and two one, it's the one
from Beyond Software.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
So it's stuff like that I'll never forget.

Speaker 10 (26:51):
I had to go, Yes, it's because of this, So yeah, no,
I'll never it's thanks to this stuff. I'll never forget that.
The first grab there's red just geographical MMO RPG was
never Winter Nights for AOL from Beyond Software in nineteen
ninety one.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Like, that's just jammed in there.

Speaker 7 (27:07):
It's never leaving. You'll forget your ATM PIN, but you
will never.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Single time forget that.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
Yeah, that's the stuff that sticks, is the stuff I
have to reiterate over and over again.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
So how when one last question about sort of your
TikTok and Instagram world, you have sort you've been doing
this online for a while, but it's recent, it's fairly
recent right that you've started to really just pick up
and take off. How does that? How does that make
you feel like you're worried about that?

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (27:34):
You know? How does obviously that's what you want to
do if you're putting that stuff up.

Speaker 10 (27:37):
But well, okay, so the story is this, like, originally
we were doing Chad. So I've been doing Chad since
two thousand and six at live shows, just kind of
all over and he just kind of was always around.
We just he was always a side hustle and always
just kind of a fun thing I would do.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
And every now and then I get to do.

Speaker 10 (27:56):
For like an event or like a big stand up
show or host or something like that. And then twenty
twenty happened. All the live shows shut down and the
show that we normally that you normally see from the
Green Mill is called The Paper Machete, which is where
we got our start doing the deep dives. And I figure,

(28:16):
you know, well that has a usual take about two
hundred people a week. One hundred and fifty maybe that
are regulars that go there to drink and watch our show.
And I kept thinking, you know, it's twenty twenty. These
people are all freaked out, and what can we do
to help out? And I was like, well, I could
do Chad stuff online. So I started doing Facebook updates.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Because they're all on the book, because they.

Speaker 10 (28:42):
Are, and then that picked up a little steam, and
then I joined TikTok and YouTube and Instagram and that's
the first time really I put chat online in any situation.
And then yeah, then that happened. Then it happened, and
now here we are five years later and it's literally
all I do. So it's a it's a lot to

(29:02):
think about, but it's not really I don't feel any
which away. It's more just like, well, I really just
hope I don't suck every time we do our show.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
So I'm just like really more focused on, like, I
hope this doesn't suck.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
So is it bringing more people into the live shows? Ah?

Speaker 10 (29:16):
Yeah, we have people come from out of town just
check us out all the time from all over. We
have another show at Lincoln Lodge in Chicago called Class
that we do that Chad hosts, and now we have
people coming in from out of time just to see that.
So and then like we'll do cons, I'll just be
I'll just go to a con and walk around and

(29:37):
take pictures and people will give me recognizes and they'll
you know, want to get pictures with Chad and that
kind of stuff, which is great. You know, I'm happy
he's the popular one, so no complaints there.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Well, and this fascinates me.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
I just want to ask very quick before Peton takes
us to a commercial, because I'm such a sucker for
inside and how it works and all that, Like, is
your process a lot like stand up?

Speaker 12 (30:01):
Like?

Speaker 8 (30:01):
Are you writing and thinking about things as a stand
up comedian? Are you, you know, seeing things and banking
up you know, bits and pieces or are you more
off the cuff like I'm a little bit by your process.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Well, the process goes like this, so I for the
the reports, for any of the deep dives, the routine
was always when we first started doing this, I would
get a topic from the guy who runs the paper machee.
It's Chris Piet and he was like, he would send
me a story, and we used to do it that
we would do it the first Monday and then I
would write all week and then we have it up

(30:34):
on Saturday. But then we realized that news changes and
vibe changes, and you know, you living in twenty twenty five,
it's right. Every day is a year that you're just like, well,
the news is never what it is.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Too late, We've moved on.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
We've moved on.

Speaker 10 (30:48):
We're now on this now, so we've developed So I
developed this method where Friday, I get whatever you know
article he wants me to read or to talk on
or write a now on, and then I'll write the
day up. So everything you see me do is written
that day. So that morning I'll wake up and I'll
just write it, you know, try to give you my

(31:10):
my take and learn at the same time, and then
I'll do it. And that's just become the thing. And
it's just like I write, whatever you see me do
is a report or an essay that I wrote that day,
and since it's a puppet, I can just hang out
and read what I wrote, but it's written that afternoon

(31:32):
or maybe an hour beforehand is sometimes, and then I
can go off the cuff from there because as you said,
there's a lot of information because we try and that's
just me. I'm just I'm a guy like that, Like
I want to know everything and I want to be accurate,
so we're information aggregating. So I think of it more
like journalism, and you know, if we're doing if it's

(31:52):
stand up, it's more like on the like because like
my heroes.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Were shel Silverstein.

Speaker 10 (31:57):
And Lenny Bruce and Billy and Carlin and Williams. So
I'm like, I'm more on. I always thought of Chad
Moore as a spoken word thing. I used to do
that a lot in Boston when I was in college.
There was a place called the Cantab and that's like
a straight up old school Caroac kind of place, and
I was really bad at it.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
But the things I learned, I think kind of moved
into this. I feel like it's less But did you
learn how to make sour dough breadjet? It's true, did
you I never actually learned how to make sour day bread.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
I did learn how.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
To make a tortillas.

Speaker 10 (32:31):
But then like, yeah, it's to me, it's always been
a little bit of journalism, a little bit of spoken word.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 7 (32:39):
And it's so hard to find your niche right, everybody's
up there doing one thing or another, and this is
this is different, this is cool, this is frue.

Speaker 10 (32:44):
Well, it's what Steve Martin said. I know because I
took a master class during COVID. That's what I did that.
I signed up for masterclass. I went back to school. No,
Steve Martin's materic class is a thing he talks about
where he's like the thing that people will not understand
you or will be something like the things that people
don't things that make you make people question what you're doing,

(33:05):
are the things you should be doing. And so I
kind of always stuck with that, like, well, if people
are confused by it, must mean I'm doing something different.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
So it's working. Yeah, I love that. That's awesome. Well cool, Well,
we're gonna take a break. We're gonna do our Around
the Galaxy news show, and I'm hoping that Chad is
willing to come in and do that for us.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
I'll wake him up. He's around here.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Someone all right, Well, we're gonna take it. We're gonna
take a quick break, and when we come back more more,
well not more, Josh, we're gonna get Chad and we're
gonna be talking more Star Wars news from the week.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well, it's time to go around the Galaxy again. Welcome
to the segment where our producer Chalousy clearly the most
powerful feelings in the Galaxy so lex this week's most
overhyped Star Wars news from our website and forces a
power more gallic life.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Forms to find you.

Speaker 7 (33:56):
Mary loudly for points that she.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Gives out however she wants.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
This makes no sense to me at all.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
This week's special guests will also join the chaos, pretending
to their opinions manner while Kelsey quietly calculates who lives,
who dies, and who gets muted. And at the end,
the so called in Winter gets sixty seconds of uninterrupted
airtime because that's what the show needs. More talking. So

(34:25):
hold on to your motivator and embrace for in Bett.
This is around the galaxy?

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Do I have to say it?

Speaker 7 (34:32):
Do it? Do I really? Roger?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Roger?

Speaker 7 (34:42):
Well, here we are and we have Chad. Chad, how
are you doing?

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Are you saving me?

Speaker 10 (34:49):
We got doing the thing we do when we zoom
and I get right up in it's business.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
And I yell and stuff.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Well, this is gonna be a lot. All right, Wait,
it's lighting.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Hey guys, Hey, how.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
We doing you?

Speaker 10 (35:11):
I feel like I look like I just would out,
but I swear I've been working.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah, it seems like he got at What is the question?

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Is an n D A. I can't liberty.

Speaker 8 (35:22):
To say, oh my goodness, The real question I have
for you, Chad is the pin on your jacket and
alert bottle because it was very yeah, there we go,
very very brand.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
This is one of my own brands achieved this. This
was given to me by the CEO. Like this guy
gave it to me.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
He was like, this is incredible.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
This is your badge. I also have a Ecto cooler pin.
I don't know if you can.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
It's the one half dozen of another right, yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
All I got.

Speaker 9 (35:55):
Yeah, I'm sorry a negative five just to start for
the alort pin because you know, Chicago people have made
me try that and like it is foul.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Yeah yeah, look see yep, some people just don't know.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
I'll take that negative five. I'll take it on the chant,
all right, all right, we'll do it, happy to do it,
all right.

Speaker 9 (36:19):
Well I'm gonna start the first question with you then,
so maybe you can dig yourself out of this hole.
I'm not sure we'll see, all right. So Star Wars
a New Hope comes back to theaters in twenty twenty
seven for its fiftieth anniversary. Why are these re release
events significant?

Speaker 10 (36:37):
They're significant because it's one step closer to us actually
hosting a civil war and demanding the release of the
original cut of the original trilogy. He keeps prodding us
like this, George, George, if you're watching, we're watching you.
That's all I'm saying is one of these days you're
gonna feel the pressure and it's going to be that
glorious day when it's freed from its bonds and like

(36:59):
loose in the world, can finally watch it for real
instead of on the damn special edition special selection whatever
the heck on the DVD that we bought back in
two thousand and one or whatever.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Yeah, which I can do brag.

Speaker 6 (37:12):
Fair enough, fair enough, Pete. What do you think.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
I love these returns. I think this is this whole
concept and interesting thing that's happening in movie theaters right
now is re releases are just there. I mean, we're
gonna see Jaws. I think at the end of August
is coming back and out this because people are going
to see, you know, new movies because they're not that great.
So it's great to see Star Wars and I cannot

(37:37):
wait to go back into the theater and witness that
movie with friends and with an audience and laugh along
with everybody. I always say when I went to the
special edition re release and brought my dad, one of
the things that I Remember is the line when C
three Pus has cursed my battle body they're dying, when
everybody laughed. I forgot that was funny, you know. I

(37:59):
forgot that there's humor in Star Wars. And when everybody say,
you know, you sort of snicker at it on the
couch when you're watching it, but when you see it
again in the crowd, it changes the way you look
at it. So I'm all for I can't wait for
it to come back.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
Frankly, did you say that new movies are bad? Are
you saying Hollywood is creatively bankrupt or something?

Speaker 10 (38:21):
I have no son, Go ahead, chat. I just saw
Weapons and that movie rips. I think we're living in
a horror movie renaissance right now.

Speaker 7 (38:31):
Me.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
It's just like, hey, look, I get it.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
We don't really want to watch like rom coms orly
dromedies right now. We want some hardcore misery and insanity,
and Hollywood is delivering that on the table.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Man.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
So I agree that a lot of the movies that
are supposed to be fun are kind of dumb, But
the ones that are supposed to be terrifying are like,
let they're let ghoasty Weapons, It's so good.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Belivia believe the right nick.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
Do you have any thoughts on Star Wars? I, surprisingly enough,
as somebody who hosts a podcast or livestream every Thursday
about Star Wars, I do.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
So.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (39:08):
Star Wars came out in seventy seven. I came out
in seventy eight. I missed that first round by a year.
It wasn't my opportunity.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
I grew up.

Speaker 8 (39:18):
I saw Return of the Jedi a a drive in
movie theater in Central Illinois where I grew up. It
was something that, you know, that's an experience I've always
wanted to have to see those original trilogy movies. I
agree with Pete the opportunity. You know, nostalgia is driving
a lot of theater stuff right now. Like you said,
we've got Jaws coming out. I saw they release the
other day that Batman and Batman returns are gonna lead coming.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Up sometime soon.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
That's cool, you know, the keeping Batman's like, that's stuff
that would drive me out when we get re releases,
anniversaries of Indie you know, stuff like that. That's what
is driving me more to go to movies than some
of the newer stuff. The other problem is I do
have the original edit of the three Star Wars movies,
but they're on.

Speaker 7 (39:58):
Blue lives, They're on the thumb drive.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
And every time I go to my local movie theater
and ask them can I play it, they throw me
out and tell me I'm too.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
Yeah, they don't. They don't understand cinema clearly.

Speaker 8 (40:12):
So I'm ready for a legit opportunity to sit and
watch that movie in a theater.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
Take my kids, the ones that you know we'll still make.
You didn't see the special editions in the theater, oh.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
I did, But the same thing. This is the yeah,
special editions. It's not I mean, obviously we're not gonna
get the original edits, but.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
We're gonna get my clunky Yeah, we're gonna get. We're
gonna get.

Speaker 8 (40:36):
We're gonna We're gonna get that damn job of the
Hut digital bull crap. That's the worst part of anything
that happened in the special editions.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
But that's a side turney.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I'm not trying to ay of the worst parts that happened.
We got rid of yub Nub, we got rid of
the original slice Noodle song. I could go on and
I will.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
Patient zero is Patient zero is digital. Jaba Uh.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 10 (41:02):
If you go back and watch like Empire strikes Back,
that's like the least messed with. It's not as bad
as you think it is, but it's still annoying.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
Eric Elliott asked, is Chad the bird e mice?

Speaker 6 (41:15):
No.

Speaker 10 (41:15):
I am a vegetarian, but I do like fish, So
if you haven't, I guess that makes me a pescytarian.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
But I don't believe them.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
They're the vegetables of the sea.

Speaker 10 (41:23):
They're the carrots of the ocean meet without feet.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Yeah, no feed meat.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
All right, I'm gonna stick with you, Chad Our Next question, so,
Matt Smith joins the cast as a villain in the
upcoming Starfighter movie.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
What is your excitement level for this edition?

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Hype hyped.

Speaker 10 (41:43):
I'm at a ten because the one thing I just
wanted to be in the Star Wars universe because I
feel like I could make a pretty good something in there,
just based on my general vibe. And look, I'm some
sort of anthropomorphic something, so I feel like I.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Should be in there doing bleep blurbs and such.

Speaker 10 (41:58):
But I've always want to be an x Wing part
so anytime that they're like, hey, we're mega x wing stuff.
I'm all in, all in, so I hope it's got
that vibe and not in the like Rogue one. It's
pretty sad, but like, no, it's just about this kicking
assen this guy. Then I'm in all right, yes, yes, yes,
and putting a doctor. He's got nerd cred all over
the place. He's been around. All he's done is he's

(42:19):
done his Marble stuff. He's done his DC stuff, He's
done his Doctor Who's stuff. I feel like that he's
done the trifle. He hadn't done Star Wars yet. It
was only a matter of time and whether or not
Pedro Pascal was available.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
So it's nice that Matt Smith is involved.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Yeah, but you just mentioned the Marvel thing. Wasn't he
in like Morpheus? Dear god?

Speaker 5 (42:39):
I mean that's the Sony Marble. I'm not saying it
was a good thing.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Okay, he's got creds.

Speaker 10 (42:44):
It was more time that back in those days. We
were all morevious.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
In those days. I spent money on that movie.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Your problem.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
That's true, that's true. I cannot.

Speaker 10 (42:59):
I'm just like, for me, it's all pizza. I'm like,
it's sometimes it's good.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Sometimes it's bad, fair enough, Nick, What do you think?

Speaker 8 (43:09):
So I'm kind of neutral on this one. Matt Smith
is fine. House of the Dragons is fine. I'm not
a doctor who guys, so it's not necessarily as much
of my you know, wheelhouse things like that. I have
a problem sometimes we're in my mind, I confuse Matt
Smith with Christopher eccleston, and so I feel like there's

(43:32):
an overlap and.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
Doctor Who interesting, yeah, exactly, having.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
Gotten doctor who guy brain thing or like just that.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
It could be.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
I mean I drink a lot of whiskey, so I
make no, that's right. But the positive I take out
of this is it's new Star Wars. It's moving forward.
There's villains, there's characters, and, as our friend Chris, who
is not here tonight, likes to say, quite regularly, gimme so, yeah,
Matt Smith, let's go show me what he's got.

Speaker 6 (44:04):
All right? What do you think, Pete?

Speaker 7 (44:06):
I'm excited because do you remember there was a rumor
that he was going to play the Emperor in Rise
of Skywalker and he would have been a great as
long as he's not playing the Emperor, hold on.

Speaker 9 (44:21):
That freaks me out for a few reasons because young
Emperor Palpatine. Then you're thinking Palpatine Fox and I don't
like it.

Speaker 10 (44:28):
Yeah he does, but he only he only box machines.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Sly More.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Sly More can confirm.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Yeah, do you.

Speaker 10 (44:40):
Me here of Darth No now, sir Gross in the trailer.

Speaker 7 (44:48):
We're at the opera. Maybe tell me later, wait for intermission, guys.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (44:56):
Man, God, maybe I'm just sitting next to him during
the show and he's just like, no, you never told
me about anything. You're not going to right now. I've
never seen this water opera, bubble show. God, I haven't
seen this.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
Sorry, Pete, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
You were saying, how long.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
To short of it? Glad he's gonna be a villain.
Can't wait to see it. Let's go.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
That's all you got from me.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
It does seem like it does seem like villain is
kind of his ubra, Like that's where he eats, that's
his deal.

Speaker 10 (45:31):
So happy for him, him and David Tennant, like, both
of you go get it, you can.

Speaker 9 (45:36):
Go get it, Go get it all right, Pete. I'm
gonna stick with you since just derailed you. There, I'm
so sorry.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (45:45):
Morrison has been begging fans to bring back Boba Fette
to Star Wars after his show was met with mixed reactions.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Do you think it's time for him to come back?

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Or no, I am going to get a lot of
heat for this nice big boy pants. Let's go tomorrow.
Morrison has been like elevated to this trying to be
like Hayden Christiansen level. He's not. He's not. He's He's
a fine original Django Fet. He was okay as Boba

(46:20):
Fet and I know the whole clone thing, and I'd
like to see him come back as Rex as some
of those other things. But it's kind of sad that
he's at a convention saying saying things like send a
fact to Lucas Phil That's literally what he said. Well,
I think everything you need to know is he said,
send a fact the facts Lucas quote.

Speaker 12 (46:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
Yeah, So I'm a little I don't know. Look, I
love Boba Fett as a character, I love Djangle, you
know all that stuff. But I just feel like tomorrow,
it's just I just feel like there's a reason why
he's not getting called and I don't know what it is.

Speaker 13 (46:57):
So Chad, what do you think, I'll tell you what
it is period is that that show sucked and we
watched it because some of it didn't suck, which is
like how it's been with Star Wars show.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Some of it's fine, some of it kind of sucks.
But again I'm all in. Like I said, it's like pizza.
Even if you get like gas station pizza. Yeah, it sucks,
but it's still be pizza, and I'm fine with that.

Speaker 10 (47:20):
I think he's just trying to play into some kind
of hype where I'm like, bro, nobody hates you, everybody
loves you.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
You're gonna get.

Speaker 10 (47:26):
There, don't worry. It's just like he's hanging out in
the line and being like, man, it'd be really cool
if I got to the front. You know I was,
but but he said, we.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Know you were Boba fet.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
You wait your turn to be in. Matt Smith has
to shine. But yeah, I mean I don't agree. I
think that we don't need more. I think we had
our moment, and if you're gonna do it, it needs
to be like it was in Mando two. He needs
to pop in, kick ass, be weird and creepy, and
then disappear.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
I don't need any more. I'm fine.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
I think that and The most underrated thing about when
he came in and Mandalorian was the music, which didn't
carry If you have the music when he's so good
as they didn't carry that over as his theme into
the next show. And that's I think that's part of
the problem.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
So the problem is it was Robert Rodriguez. We wanted
dust till done. We got spy kids. And I'm like, okay,
well that's not the flavor of Rodriguez. You were asking
for it, but okay, I mean you went for it
fair enough.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
Nick, Do you have any thoughts?

Speaker 8 (48:23):
I do, and I'm going to say something that I
can guarantee everyone on Earth that I have not said
at any other point today. I agree with the bird
on this one.

Speaker 7 (48:34):
Here's the deal.

Speaker 8 (48:36):
No, thank you, like great, God, you did, you did
your time. The Book of Boba Fet it was fine.
The best part of it was the middle part where
the Mandalorian showed up and Ahsoka showed up and Luke
showed up like that was the best part of the
Book of Boba Fet.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
I don't hate it.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
I'm not going to shoot on it. It's just not
my bland. It's not my brand, it's not my thing.
But The allure of Boba Fet as a kid who
grew up in the eighties with Star Wars was he
was mysterious.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
And it wasn't that they made him woke.

Speaker 8 (49:02):
It wasn't that they made him have empathy for the
Tusken Raiders and that kind of thing, like.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
That's great, it's a good story all in.

Speaker 8 (49:09):
What it was was Boba Fett was the baddest bounty
hunter in the galaxy. And now we're having like a
process story where he's like becoming a city administrator and
running for mayor. And it wasn't. It wasn't what I
was looking for. So I don't need more of that.
And Disney and Lucasfilm and Star Wars are moving forward.
They're doing new, exciting things which I can't wait to see.

(49:30):
But it feels a little bit and I'm gonna borrow
expression that I'm easily twenty five years too old for.
It feels a little try hard when you're at a
con where clearly, as Pete said, he's phoning in from
nineteen ninety four saying, hey, facts Disney and tell them
give me a job.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
Like if you can't get it on your own, it
may not be.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
You know, he's not like doesn't have a job. He's
that's right, he's right now. He's doing great, every man.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
He's in the thing on Apple TV, like he's if.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
You're watching Buddy, we love you Inger.

Speaker 7 (50:02):
On the show. Let's talk about it, let's get out.

Speaker 9 (50:04):
I was just about to say, I guess I'm gonna
have to cancel his appearance for now.

Speaker 8 (50:10):
I'm hoping he's at Dragon Con at the end of
the month and he can just punch me directly in
the place.

Speaker 9 (50:15):
I'll show this cliff, right, Nick, I'm not sure if
you could notice, I do have a shiner right now. So, uh,
you know, if you need me to like come defend
you back, great at taking punches, all right, I'm gonna
stick with you, Nick. So in a recent interview, Liam

(50:37):
Neeson criticized how easily his Jedi fell in battle against
Darth maul Fite, being billed as a master Jedi. Do
you agree with him or do you feel like he's
not giving mall proper respect?

Speaker 5 (50:49):
All right, So.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Here's my real problem with what Liam Neison said. And
I hope, I hope that it was an error like
on the journalist or the original person who translated this all.
It was quoted that he said it was nanby Pamby
with an N. The expression is mamby Pamby with an M.

(51:11):
I couldn't get past anything else because it was said wrong.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
Well, I was questioning myself after all these years, and
have I been saying not that I've been saying mamby
Pamby is the way that I've always understood this expression
to be. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (51:25):
I mean, we love Liam Neeson's he's the taking guy,
he's the gruff voice guy. I keep seeing that the
New Naked Gun is great, and I don't know if
I believe that because the New Coming to America was
not great, and I don't think Happy Gilmore Too was great,
And like we don't need to do some of these things.
We just need to put the original ones back in

(51:45):
the theater. As we discussed earlier, Do I agree If
he's giving mal Res, Mall beat him, and that's the
way it goes, Like Mal was younger, mal was faster,
Maul was trained in the dark side. That's the way
it goes. Because the story ultimately was not about Qui
gon Jin. The story was about Obi Wan Kenoby where
he goes from there, and it creates something that is

(52:07):
one of my favorite things in Star Wars, which is
Mal's single focus obsession with Kenoby because of what happened
in the Phantom Menace, which pays off so beautifully and
rebels on down the line.

Speaker 9 (52:19):
I do have to tell you why I took away
some points there? Are you aware of weld on Liam
Neeson's interview where he was asked if women should get
paid the same as him and being well, know, it
was my favorite thing ever because the interviewer is like, well,
would you take a pay cut?

Speaker 6 (52:38):
And he goes no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 9 (52:40):
No, just like he laid it on thick and I
was like, man, it's so like.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
You didn't have to say it that many times.

Speaker 9 (52:49):
Yeah, He's like, oh your god, women being paid the
same as me?

Speaker 7 (52:54):
So dull turns out protest too much.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
It's terrible easy, You're doing fine.

Speaker 9 (53:03):
All right?

Speaker 6 (53:04):
Thoughts on Mal versus QUI gon Chad.

Speaker 10 (53:07):
First of all, just to throw it in there, I
would never want to, never will actually, but I am
fighting for points. It is an Ambrosepierce, It's an Ambrosepierce word,
and it is Namby Pamby. It goes back to the
day and that's an ambrosepiars. But I don't care because
Liam needs needs to sit down again.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
No one's talking to you.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
Liam.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
You're doing You're you're dating Pam Anderson. Now you're doing fine.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
Go all in your life.

Speaker 10 (53:32):
Is like, I can't believe you went down. So he's like,
you sat down. He accepted his death. He did what
Obi Wan does in the first Star Wars. He's like,
you know what, He's drive me down, become more powerful
than you can imagine.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
So he just lets Maul do his thing. And then
what's mulgat maulgus.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
Just like divided by Obi Wan, and I feel like
Qui gon knew what he was doing.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
I never took it as he went out too easy.
I was like, yeah, man, he's the guy. He knows
what's up. So no, I disagree, Fine.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
All right?

Speaker 9 (54:00):
And then I left it for our biggest small fan
on the podcast last.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
What do you think?

Speaker 7 (54:09):
I never saw this guy until he said something about it,
until it hit the internet. I never thought that he
went out like a bitch. I think to just say
he was like he was in a fight and Maul
out of laid him and he lost, and I didn't
think anything of it. And your point about him dating
Pam Anderson, you know, it's for those of us in

(54:33):
this sort of generation X like Pam Anderson today. You know,
it's like it's like it's like dating that teacher that
you thought was hot when you were like fourteen years old.

Speaker 10 (54:43):
Easy, easy, Yeah, you're you're probably right.

Speaker 7 (54:49):
I should shut that one down, right.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
Whine she did five year old jokes?

Speaker 9 (55:00):
No, no, you do you do sound like all the
like shrivially old men being like, oh, she's not wearing.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
Look, I actually think she looks great. But I'm just
saying nothing. I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying I'm glad.
As Liam Neeson would say, no, no, no, no, no
no no no no no no no.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
Liam Needson did this to us. I blamed Liam for
this conversation.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
We were doing just fine.

Speaker 10 (55:26):
The fine until he showed up in the meeting that
he was not invited to to complain about a thing
that isn't happening.

Speaker 9 (55:35):
All right, Well, uh yeah, I mean that's a great,
great way to and this and U Chad, you did win,
so are.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
Here's the thing that I want for more Star Wars
movies for those of you who are watching that are
involved in making more Star Wars movies. Stop making your
aliens have English accents and speak of the English and
that kind jazz.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
They speak bleeps and blur ups. That's all they're allowed
to speak.

Speaker 10 (56:02):
So many people work so hard to create and then
wreck on these languages, and then you just throw it
all the way when you meet like some like half
elephant half fighter pilot guy and I'm like, oh, here
comes those bleeflorps, and I'm gonna get that little translation
at the bottom.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
Of the screen. But instead he's just like art Curve,
where are we?

Speaker 7 (56:20):
And I'm like, what the hell.

Speaker 10 (56:21):
Is that shit? That's not Star Wars. That's like star Stargates.
That's like that's like, what was that show with a
far Escape? That's far Escape shit, man, And I love
Far Escape, but I don't mix. They don't mix with
Star Wars. If you're an alien, if you're a robot,
you bleeps, you blur ups.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
And I'm tired of I'm tired of not of no
one talking about it. I'm tired of no one's saying
it because it drives me crazy.

Speaker 10 (56:43):
And every single Star Wars movie and TV show when
the little alien thing.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Has like a fucking Australian accent.

Speaker 10 (56:50):
I'm like, oh, knock it off. It was like and
case in point of being when they redid the Phantom
Menace of that cut where the guy like made it
good and like Jorge Jargi just spoke can bleed form.
So it's like, see see that's all you have to do.
All he is he could look like crap and I'd
buy it. If he's out there being like, I'm like, yeah,
that's Star Wars. That's what I'm here for. Said, that's

(57:14):
what I had.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
To get it off. I guess nailed it. I love
than that and they're killing it. I'm having a great time.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
Let's go.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
Well.

Speaker 8 (57:24):
And I've never I've never been more glad to be
wrong about something in my life than to have Chad
the Bird point out to me that it is in
fact namby Pamby because or.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
Than I've seen it, I have known other than that,
I couldn't like.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
I did it. I didn't backpack.

Speaker 8 (57:39):
I did a quick fact check and you're one hundred
percent correct. There's a Poe by Henry Carey that was
the satire of Ambrose Philip Yeah, and so completely nailed it.
The knowledge, the dive. This is why you bring Chad
Chad the Bird on folks like this is what you
get when you.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
This Saturday show in Chicago. I want you to use
the nayampy pammy.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
I will for you. That's gonna happen. I promise I
will be.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
I can tell you what I'm talking about this week,
and I never get to do this, So I'm gonna
tell you what I'm.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Talking this week.

Speaker 10 (58:09):
On August eighth, two thousand and four, the Dave Matthews
band bus jumped a load.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Of shit at a boat in the river. I've been waiting.

Speaker 10 (58:21):
I've been asking the editor of that show for ten
years to allow me to talk about that, and this
is the year he said.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (58:28):
This is the twenty first anniversary this fall, and I
will be talking about the Dave Matthews shit bus and
for you pee yes, I will find a way to
work namby pamby.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
Nice that we're talking. Well, Hey, so people can watch
that clip. Where can people follow Chad the Bird on
the interwebs.

Speaker 10 (58:46):
You can find me it just google Chad the Bird.
It's really easy. That's I'm only the only one. Oh,
I'm not the pastor Chadburd.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
He was coming up all over my FYI.

Speaker 10 (58:57):
I've had people reach out and ask me to pray
for their family and I'm like, well, I will, but
I don't know if that's.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Going to do any good.

Speaker 10 (59:02):
I don't have any I don't have any credentials on
that front. Also, a quick Google search, you'll know you're wrong,
but yeah, it looks like me, and his name is
Chad the Bird, and you'll find yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
YouTube Chad the Bird. That's where we give the full
size bars.

Speaker 10 (59:16):
That's where I do my pinball streams, which the next one,
by the way, is gonna be August twenty.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
First, it's a pinball fight club, so it's a tournament.
It's give me fun. And then uh.

Speaker 10 (59:26):
If you go to Instagram, it's Chadbird with you because
of Chadbird, which someday I'll be able to claim my name.
And then TikTok is Chad the Bird talk t okay.
Other than that, I'm just you find me.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
It's easy.

Speaker 7 (59:38):
It's easy. That's great. Well, Chad, thank you so much
for hanging you on this show at any time, anytime
when you're not able to geek out enough in Chicago,
ill too. Yes, thanks here we got yes, yes, thank
you so much for hanging out. Nick. What do we
have next week? Do we know at this point where
we have? No, we don't.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
I literally just canceled tomorrowly so just slating.

Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
Yeah, I ruined tomorrow Morriston, So I'm gonna spend I'm
gonna spend the weekend doing penance and trying to come
up with a new plan. So the thing you can
count on is we will be back next Thursday night,
nine pm Eastern, six pm, uh Pacific.

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
And then I live in Central Time, so eight o'clock.
Come hang out with us. Tell your friends. We drank,
we laugh, we have fun, we talk about Star Wars,
and we will be here next week.

Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
We don't know with who, but it'll be fun guaranteed.
All right, Well, thanks again to Chad, thank you Kelsey,
and thank you everybody who's listening and watching. We will
see you next time, and Nick me, the force be
with you always.

Speaker 14 (01:00:45):
Just one more round, friend, sent a homework bound friend.

Speaker 12 (01:00:51):
Don't look at me in your dreams.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
Just one more song.

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
Friend.

Speaker 12 (01:01:00):
The nights so long, friend, the nights get shorter, It
seems just one more rime friend.

Speaker 14 (01:01:11):
Yes, it's a crime friend, but you know time friend,
time can fly, so it's good night friend. Good night
but

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