George Lucas Returns, Ahsoka Rumors, & Regal Robot Reveals! | ATGLive - Around the Galaxy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 5 (01:45):
Hey, Hello and Welcome to another Thursday night of AGG Live.
I'm one of your hosts, Pete Flinzer. I was not
here last week, but I'm also joined as always by
my good friend and co host Nick.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'll do that little little princess face. That's cute.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, after watching last week, and you guys had a
lot of fun with Vanessa Marshall and Corey. Uh, Corey,
I know he's got he's going to kill me. Holy gout,
Corey Ryan Forces try I remember the middle part and
Max Fryan. Max Fry was so much fun. I think
we've decided to have him come back this week.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Somehow Palpatine returned, so.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
We're we're ready to ready to go with some of
that stuff. There was some Star Wars news this week, Nick,
and so we'll definitely hit some of that. But Nick,
I just I started just rolling because it's been a week.
You know, if I miss a week, I get a
little bit screwed up. But how are you most.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
People, you got to play catch up, You got to
get everything out.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I was like I had to get out last week
because certain number of words every week.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
And word's got words coming account and yes, we do
things they do and I think I caught up, so
now I'll let you talk.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Okay, Well, I am doing fantastic. It is the dread
awful heat of Alabama summer. It always was like one
hundred and eight here today. Yeah, you know, and in
Alabama that means mostly like ninety percent humidity. But as
we like to say, the horror persists, so do we.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're just going to keep on plugging along. We're going
to get through the heat.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
School starts this next week for my kids, so it's
time to get people back on a routine after being
home for two months and basically just eating.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
All day long.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah, up in the Northeast, our kids don't start till
the end of the month. So but football season starts
next week to practices and all that stuff. So my
son will be keeping me busy there. May as well
be back in school.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
But that's right.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Well, and of course with football here in the South, yes,
that means college football starts back, which is its own
very special religion. And so while I don't have high
hopes for my Auburn Tigers, I'll just be excited for
college football to return as I continue to ride out
what has become kind of a miserable baseball season.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
But guess what, I'm still here. It has been rough
for the Braves. You're under five hundred, about sixteen games
back of the Phillies about sixteen and a half.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
We don't have to go into all those details. That's
not necessarily.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Just these are the things I just like to talk about, Tadline,
we have a closer.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'm happy about what happened there.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
But you know what this also brings out license you said, football,
which means we got to start planning our our Star
Wars fantasy draft again with us right with our good
friend Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
And speaking of Kelsey, why don't we bring her in
to say hello, Kelsey? Where are you? Where are you? Oh?
There she is, Hi, Kelsey. Hey. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:36):
I was like it started tonight. Come on, I know,
you know, we don't know. The only streaming service we
don't have is Paramount Plus. And so my son is like, Dad,
we can't watch the game. I'm like, yeah, I know,
it's it's pre season. Yeah, that's what it is, Peacock.
We do have Paramount Plus because I watched the Star
Trek show. So all right, Pete, I know, wait, so

(05:00):
much going on?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
You know, you go away for a week and then
you come back and like within moments, like the entire
vacation vibe is gone.

Speaker 8 (05:10):
It's all right. We can tell, like we've got a
little pinkness in the face.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Oh, I'm very very tan. Yeah, you can see like
the it's hard to see, like that's the only way
that I can tell. Oh, yeah I was before and
now I'm a little bit darker. But so, Nick, if
people want to buy shit from us and things like that,
where can they go?

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Well, first of all, you highly recommend that they do
so because it helps us. It helps them because then
you have cool merchandise. And what better thing to have
in your life than cool merchandise that you're gonna have
to explain to every single person you meet?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
What does that mean? Why is that funny? I don't
get it. If you go to the SSW.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Network dot com, it is your one stop chop for
everything we do. You can find our merchandise store where
we've got sticker packs, T shirts, mugs, cups, pint glasses,
all that kind of stuff. Lights of silly designs. Actually,
we've kind of scaled it back, reworked it. We've got
kind of some of our original logo designs, the three
shows atg Live around the Galaxy, and Podcast of the Wheels,

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a little bit of everything that you can find as
far as that goes. You can also find our Patreon program,
which we are always grateful and we want to shout
out every week our patrons who support us for as
little as three dollars a month. You can become a
part of that. You support all the work that we do.
You get access to interviews when we do the long
form interview shows, you get swag, you get meetups, you
get you know, other random things that we throw out there.

(06:34):
If we do game show nights, we try to plug
all into that. So it's a great way to get
connected and support what we do.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Here.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
You can find the links to the news stories. We're
going to talk about those a little bit later in
the show. You can find the ones from last week.
Occasionally we write blog posts. Usually it's Pete, but I
keep saying like I want to get back into writing,
so I need to do that to it. It is
the place, and you can find the link to our
social media pretty much everywhere we are the SSW network.
Social media is kind of a crash zone at the moment.

(07:01):
Not super productive. And as you can say, right above
all of our heads, we have our voicemail line five
zero four three two one fifteen oh one. Call leave
us a message anytime of the day or night about
Star Wars, about how dumb you think we are. Whatever
it is, there's a good chance we'll play it on
the show, Listen to it, talk about it, and either
answer your question or laugh along as you laugh at us.

(07:22):
Because you're not laughing with us, you're laughing at us,
we'll laugh at us too.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
We don't care.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Leave a leave a voicemail during the show as well,
like cause if you do that, we'll just play it
blind and we don't know what you're gonna say. We
we are not rated g so you know we don't
want you to be obscene and disgusting, but you know,
just call leave us a leave us some thoughts five
four three two one fifteen oh one. Or if you're
listening to this back on the playback on the podcast,

(07:49):
same thing you call it anyhow, driving to work listening
to us, and then you're like, you know what I
still thinks to say about Skeleton Crew, and well, since
Chris is in here, because I still have things to
say about about the accult.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
But that's a whole other story. Cause are you a
Lions fan on top of being a Tigers fan?

Speaker 8 (08:08):
Yeah, I'm from Michigan, I know, But what is that
supposed to mean? I chose pain?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
That's clearly been working on his brain from the time
you said, hey, look at my jersey.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
Yeah yeah, I went to Michigan State, like I don't know,
like all Michigan things except for the Wolverines.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, yeah, we can afford that they can go away.
Are you a Pistons fan?

Speaker 8 (08:39):
I am? Okay, yeah, oh actually you my old one
right there?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I say. Are you a Red Wings fan too?

Speaker 7 (08:47):
I am?

Speaker 8 (08:47):
But I can't wear that hat anymore?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Why it's red?

Speaker 8 (08:51):
Oh you know, that one's been buried in my closet
for a bit, Like you.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Gotta get one of those cool like white logo on
white hat or.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
I just haven't. Yeah, the team like they're getting back,
so I just I haven't bought a hat since the
red hat stuff has been going on.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So that's rough. I get it.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Well, Christmas is coming, Kelsey, so maybe all right, Chris
is not with us tonight, unfortunately, but you can still
go to bro actually Mountpost dot com and buy all
of your Star Wars stuff. We'll have a little video
on that in just a couple of minutes as well.
But it is the July thirty first, which means it's
the last chance.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
For what it is, the last opportunity for our July
jar Banks toast. We have a themed toast every month.
I'm for the first time and probably what has been weeks.
I'm not going to run through what the last like
ten months of you know, toasts and themes have been.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
But this month has been July jar Banks. We've had
a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
We've toasted a lot of different things and people, and
tonight is no exception. As we finish up July jar Banks,
I am going to one one challenge to the chat
to anybody that's watching now, if you're watching this later,
send us a message. I'm not entirely sure what the
August theme is going to be yet. My nine year

(10:12):
old did actually throw right before the show. She threw
at us O Soca, which actually has a good being
ag Soca.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Could be it. But if you have another idea, and
I know.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
There was a Twitter group message thread where they were
hashing out some and came up with some great ideas,
but I deleted Twitter and pieced out from there, so
I don't have access to that anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So we don't know what August is going to be.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
But next week we're going to start our August toast
and it very well could end up being a Soca.
But if it's not, that doesn't matter because the O
Matt says the August of Acbar, which I've got a
six cinch Admiral Acbar figure hanging out right back here.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
That would be prime oug Bar. I don't know, we'll
work it out.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
We've got a week, but tonight is the last night
of ji jar Binks, and we want to send July
jar Binks out with style. I know we've got the
video down below, if one of y'all want to get
that ready. I'm going to send this toast out to
my good friend and I'm going to hit very quickly
for half a second the solo button because I.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Am wearing my purple and black star.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
As we've talked about sports and baseball, because we're like
fifty percent of Sports show at this point. My good friend,
my good friend Bob, who is the older brother of
my college roommate, Brian, who was the lead guitarist in
my band in college.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
He lives out in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
And he went to Star Wars Night at the college
last week and he sent me this shirt and I
don't think I can get it on the camera, but
it's Star Wars Night course field Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
And it came in the mail earlier this week.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
So I want to send my shout out to another
weird space friend who hooked me up, who was at
a baseball game and I saw it on Facebook and
I was like, dude, get me a shirt, and he's like,
what's your dress.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I'm sending it your way.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
So Tonight's July jar Binks toast is going to go
to my good friend.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Bob in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Cheers and Pete if we're ready, Happy July jar Binks, Yes,
here we go, and Action.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Julie, we win the money. These we broke me from
that spine.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Okay, if you're tuning in for the first time, gave up.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Gave up? Yeah, And if you're turning in for the
first time, normally there's an action figure in your beer.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I don't have a jar Jar action figure, so.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
Instead I drank my beer out of two jars, too
many Mason jars because I live in the South, so
it is a jar jar toast.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
When you buy a house in the South, they actually
there's a hole.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
Comes with it that's full of miss jars ver but
no lids, which is one of those things you're like,
what the hell, man, what are we doing?

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Well, we are gonna take our first break of the night,
and then when we come back, we're gonna be joined
by Max Fry. We're gonna be talking about collectibles, we'd
be talking about Regal Robot, and we're just gonna see
what happens, where it goes what we do. We also
got news tonight, as we always do. So thanks for
hanging out with us. We're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be back with more ATG Live. Well we are back.

(13:22):
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what's going on?

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Yes, we are so excited to welcome back two weeks
in a row. He did such a good job last
week during the Galactic Happy Hour that we thought he
needs an entire segment.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We need a chance to talk to Max Fry.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Max Frye is a artist, a cosplayer, which I'm excited
to ask some questions about because he has one particular
cosplay that he just recently acquired that is I mean,
checking every box right up my alley.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
But he also works at Regal Robot.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
And has been a part of a lot of the
amazing stuff that we have seen over the years from them,
And there was a bunch of exciting announcements at San
Diego Comic Con just last.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Week, so we reached out.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
We had an amazing connection through our friend not related,
Holly Fry, and we said, Max, we want you to
come back. We want you to talk about who you are,
what you do. So it is a great thrill to
welcome to ATG Live. Mister Max Fry there he is.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Hi, Thanks, what's up. How's it going? Good evening, good evening.
Thanks for having me back. Of course, it's good to
see you again.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
And I think it's important that we established the baseline
right off the bat. We learned last week during the
Galactic Happy Hour. You are in your at home sebah Den.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Is that correct.

Speaker 9 (15:23):
It's a work in progress, but yeah, that's that's where
I am, and I thought it would make for an appropriate,
you know, location where I should talk to you guys.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
It is very appropriate and very you know, scene worthy.
We've got the ig head, we've got the Camtono, you've
got the shelves, like the mood. It's almost like you
work somewhere where you have access to some cool things
to help you make that happen.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's almost like I have access. Yeah, I like it.
I like it. Well, we are thrilled that you're here tonight.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
We're going to jump in first of all, because really
we again, speaking of establishing a baseline, you're clearly a
Star Wars fan. You work in a bunch of different
you know ips. Tell us a little bit about your
Star Wars origin, how you came to it, how you
had an impact on you early in your life.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Then let's go from there. Sure.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
I mean, it's a story you've probably heard a bunch.
I am of the Star Wars generation.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know, I grew up in the seventies, the late seventies.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
I was a young kid through the early eighties. So
my clearest first memory of Star Wars is actually seeing
Empire strips back in the theater. Okay, I think I
saw Star Wars in the theater when Empire was about
to release.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
They did that re release.

Speaker 9 (16:36):
I think in eighty eighty one, so yeah, but from
then on it was just I think all Star Wars
all the time. And it really hasn't gone away, and
in fact, I'm lucky enough that it's kind of taken
over a large part of my professional life as well,
and that's it's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, you know, it's really interesting, and I mean, look
think of me this way. We saw these movies back in
nineteen seventy seven, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty three, whenever we
first saw them, and here it is almost fifty years
later and we're still talking about Star Wars. We're still
like like when I was a kid, and I will
never forget when just before Return to the Jedi came out.

(17:20):
My dad brought home a Starlog magazine and there was
a picture of Luke standing in front of Darth Vader
as what we didn't know at the time, we saw
I would going back up to see the Emperor and
just pulling so much, like just being so psyched about it.
And we're still in that place now where we follow
every piece of Star Wars news and there's stuff coming out,
and there's all this kind of thing. What do you think,

(17:41):
and this is an impossible question to answer, but I
won't sort to you anyway, what do you think it
is about Star Wars that fifty years later, we're still
enthralled with this crazy George Lucas idea.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I think it's a couple of things.

Speaker 9 (17:57):
I think on the perhaps logistical side, I think it
can't go understated how important it is that the people
that are now making Star Wars grew up with Star Wars,
you know, the people that like us, you know, like
we are the same age as the people that are
in control of the franchise now, so they're the ones

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that have the love for it, that want to keep
it going. But I think on a more fundamental level.
And I think this is why I connected to it,
and I think this is probably why so many other
people connected to it. And I think this is why
George Lucas. I mean, I know, we know this is
why George Lucas. He has stated as such. He wanted
to make a modern mythology for our world, for our culture.

(18:39):
We had no modern mythology. We had no tales. Well,
we had the ones from history and those didn't go away.
But he wanted something that kids could connect to at
that time, in the late seventies and early eighties. But
I think he did such a good job of it
that it continues to connect to kids who are growing up,
and then they grow up become teenagers, to become adults,

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and it stays with them. Yeah, and then they pass
it on to their kids, and it stays with them,
and it's just this amazing cycle.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
I think you hit on something really important there that
I don't always think about. It has sparked in my
mind over time. But like you said, we had existing
myth We had you know, Greek and Norse mythology. We
had these other we had the ideas and the concepts,
We had war movies, from the forties and fifties, we
had these different things. But when you modernize something like
that and you make it relevant to an age. We're

(19:30):
coming out of the Space race, and we're coming out
of post World War two and Baby boomers and you know,
all of these things that it creates a different element.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
And I think that probably drives as much of it.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
You know, we're all of the same age and generation
that we grew up with it in the like you said,
in the early and late seventies, and it was our
entire everything.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
But it's tied to the love for.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Space exploration, which at that point was new and exciting,
and so it was a way for that to be
accessible on a level that we could connect with, not
Greeks and sailing ships or something else like that.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I think that really has a lot to do
with it.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
So the vision to be able to take something that's
you know, tried and true as time and modernize it
for a new age is really something that I don't
know if we give enough you know, trift to.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah, and I would the only thing I would add
that is it's also evolving, right you look at something
like and or which reflects you.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Know, current we are literally right now.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, and so it just continues to hit after one
after another after another.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah yeah. I mean, and they're trying what's there.

Speaker 9 (20:36):
They've gotten to the point and I think almost out
of necessity, or they're trying new things with the franchise.
You know, they're trying different genres, sort of trying, you know,
seeing what fits and what works and what doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
And I don't know, I mean, I I don't know.

Speaker 9 (20:51):
If you overheard this, but I think I heard Tony
Gilroy when he was doing promotion for and or season
two that supposedly, and who knows if we'll overseee it,
but there's supposedly some sort of Star Wars story that
would fit into the horror genre that they're developing. These
are the things that I'm excited about. Like a Star
Wars horror movie sounds incredible.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, correct.

Speaker 9 (21:11):
You know, I'm also like, you know, I'm the kind
of guy who's probably gonna see anything and most likely
going to like anything.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I mean, I'm pretty easy to please. Don't see a
Star Wars yeah yeah, but I really want to see
that if it happens.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
But you see things like the episode of the Mandalorian.
I think it was in season one on the prison
Ship that had the little horror elements and the red
lights and the people popping out from the different corridors,
and you're like, oh, I see how that can work.
Like you see, there's a way for that to connect
and be something for people who are into specific genres.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
We live in this world of social media and too
many people complaining in too many squeaky wheels getting the grease.
But the reality at the end of the day is
keep trying things new because there's a lot of people
out there. Because the other side of it is you
do the same thing over and over again, and those
same people are going to complain. I've already seen this.
It's the same thing. So pick one, pick the other.
Let's try other things and say what happens.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, you're right. You literally can't please everybody.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
So you know there's going to be somebody out there
who likes what they're doing. If it's not for you,
it's for somebody else. You know, whether or not that
someone comprises a big enough audience for them to get
whatever the ratings that they need to deem something success
is a great.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Story for sure. For sure.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Well, speaking of a you know, one of the big
pieces about they keep Star Wars alive for gen X
and and sort of everybody is there's this sort of
collectible world that Star Wars created as well, and Regal
Robot hits a sweet spot for you know. Obviously, I

(22:50):
don't think my twelve year old son can mow enough
lawns to buy some of the premium Regal Robots stuff,
but there are adults out there like us who who
I want to see it. So maybe before we find
out how you got involved in Regal Robot, for the
handful of people who may not be familiar with what
Regal Robots all about, maybe give us a little bit
of that story.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
Sure, yeah, I mean I myself have been a collector
my whole life. It started with Star Wars action figures
to this day, it continues with Star Wars section figures.
There are other things as well, but it's something it's
a hobby I'm very familiar with. So Regal Robot is

(23:31):
owned by a gentleman by the name of Tom Spina.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
He started.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
The other company that he has is called Tom Spina Designs,
and that is a company that he started primarily as
a specialist in costume prop collectible sort of conservation and
restoration and display pieces. So a lot of these things

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that you know, these artifacts, creatures, masks, props, whatever that
we grew up with that we saw on screen eventually
make their way into the hands of private collectors through
auctions and other ways, I'm sure, and if they're you know,
if it's like say, like a xenomorp from Ridley Scott's Alien,

(24:21):
that thing was falling apart in the year twenty twenty
or whatever and needs to be conserved and repaired. So
like that, that's where that business comes in. Where Regal
Robot started, as far as I understand it was one
of the things that Tom specialized in was making themed
furniture and the core pieces. He made a Han solo

(24:47):
in carbonite table. I think it was a table. It
might have been a desk one or the other, because
he's done both, but the first thing I think was
a table, and it went viral. A lot of people
started talking and about it, and a lot of people
started asking about it, and being the savvy businessman that
he is, he realized that there might be a future

(25:09):
in this for him, and so he became an official
licensee under Disney and Lucasfilm and started this company, Regal Robot,
to make high end collectibles seemed first for Star Wars
and then recently, I think it was the year leading
up to Dial of Destiny, which my brain is Swiss

(25:31):
cheese ago or two years ago? Was it only last summer?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (25:37):
But then we got the Ianana Jones license as well
and we started making collectibles under that ip and it's
been fantastic because we've really especially with what is and
it's my favorite thing that we make is this archive collection,
which is under the Star Wars brand, and they are

(25:59):
reproductions of the concept mackets that are in the archives
at Skywalker Ranch and so you know, and the nice
thing about that is that there are so many of
them and people love them and we love to make
them and it's exciting because it's like, you know, having
the real thing written in front of you. So that's

(26:21):
that's the big I think where Regal has gotten the
most attention over the past few years is this line.
But we're also doing some great proper replicas under Indiana
Jones and other decor pieces, and so there's a lot
of stuff all of the fun stuff that we get
to work on well, and I.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Think that's incredible, and I want to come circle back
in a minute to what you do specifically at Regal.
But Kelsey went ahead and through this up there for us,
which I think is a perfect transition. Last week with
San Diego Comic Con, there was a plethora of announcements
and reveals coming out from Regal Robot the things that
are going on, and I want to run through a
bunch of these real quick. I have a special but

(26:56):
of course I love Star Wars is a Star Wars show.
Indiana Jones is one A one B with me in
Star Wars, and so as y'all got this license a
little over a year ago, I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Have any of this stuff yet.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
This is the one, and this is the thing where
I have to really try not to be obnoxious. This
leap of faith painting has been one of my favorite
Indiana Jones things since Crusade came out in nineteen eighty nine.
I'm also about ninety nine percent certain this is going
to be the next tattoo I get.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
But this piece, this piece.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
Of artwork right here, like this is the thing that
makes me catch my breath and go crap. I might
have to buy that, and I haven't been able to
commit to it yet, but like this hits every button.
I love this so much. But there are so many
other fun things. We've got the Tote Hangar, which, if
anybody knows raiders like this is phenomenal and it's such
a key little piece of Indiana Jones lore.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
So phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
And I'm just going to hit a couple of these
and I want you to just talk about any of
these that stand out, anything that has a connection for you.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
We have the Tote Minibus. This is phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
You turn it both ways as the starting to melt
as he does melt.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
The Fedora gave me nightmares as a kid after watching a.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Movie, so you know, the indie Fedora based on you know,
screen and all the stuff that y'all do is based
on screen use connections and scans and all that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's so great.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
We have as we jump back into Star Wars, we
have this Clone Trooper maquette, which if anybody is a
you know, Prequels person clone Troopers, this is right up there, Alley.
We get Klattu Barata nickto these scale replicas, the little
heads incredible. We have mini busts, Tarkin, we have Lea
these casts just you know, the quality of all of them.

(28:41):
Seven is just tall. Like this is something that's going
on a bookshelf. It's going on a place of prominence
and display. We have the space lug. When you'll do
two of these, there's the one to one prop replica,
which is the size of what was used when they filmed.
You have the scaled replica. And like you're talking about
these signature editions, Yeah, when you have people like Phil

(29:01):
Tippet signing onto these. There's a Ben burt One, I
know all of these new things. Chris Wallace, Judy Elkins,
the toadstool tear that email came out today. I got
that one. We've had the difference and the concept art.
Those are the other ones that are so much fun
when y'all do the concept art busts.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
We have walrus Man.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
This is the Ben burt One skin from the original
mask the display with or without the or so like,
these are things that collectors are literally going, I need this.
Our friend Brandon Wenerdi from Talking Bay ninety four, like, yeah,
every time these come out, you know his joke is.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Don't let me buy this.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
But every one of these things is something that is
just top notch. The amount of artwork, the quality that
goes into them is incredible. What is your role at Regal?
What do you do, what do you work on? And
kind of what is your connection to some of these things?

Speaker 9 (29:59):
So I am an I have a couple of different
hats that I wear at Regal. One of them is
an artist, and so I do a lot of the
development work on a bunch of the products you just
showed in others in terms of doing the some of
the research from UH swatches and photos that come back

(30:24):
from Skywalker ranch and finding you know, the right paints
to use, the right techniques to use to replicate, you know,
an artist's style, and then sort of developing the prototype
and breaking that prototype out for our production artists to
use in sort of steps so that every single one

(30:46):
can come out looking the same and the right way.
And that I mean, I can't think of anything more
fun to do for a living. It's it's every time
I get to do a new prototype or develop help
develop a new piece, it's it's so much. It's a joy,
it really is. And I and It's not lost on

(31:08):
me how lucky I am that I get to do that.
Other hats that I've worn and continue to wear.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I do some. I do some marketing outreach. Uh, I
did some.

Speaker 9 (31:18):
I was sort of a studio supervisor for a while,
but really my my focus now is working more closely
with Tom and Rob doing development.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So that's that's very exciting for me. That's fantastic.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
Well, and I have to say, well, I don't personally
own any Regal Robot things yet, and it's a great
shame to admit that I have had the opportunity on
a couple of occasions to visit CAB's Oasis, and so
I have seen I have seen some of the Regal
Robot work at firsthand at that amazing spot, having cocktails

(31:51):
provided by Holly Frye and her magnificent husband Brian. So
I can attest that the Regal Robot work is real.
The tables, the chair, the furniture. Like you said, you
know a lot of it. Starting with the furniture. It's
legit and it adds to an element, whether you're building
an in home canteena as some do, or whether you're
adding something to a man cave or an office or

(32:14):
a bookshelf for a bookend, like every bit of it.
It's austere, it's classy, it's accurate, which is one of
my favorites. When y'all did the Grail tablet last summer, like,
that was another one that I'm going, holy crap, like
that's something I need in my life. And it's just
because they connect us with the nostalgia from our childhood.
They connect us from the things that we grew up

(32:35):
with and the opportunity to go ooh, I could have
that the earn of ner Hachi.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
What are we talking about here? It's amazing. Yes, that's
one of my favorite pieces. It's one of my favorite goods.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
But I think it's also important to oh, go ahead, Max, gohead, no, no,
please please. I was just gonna say it's important to
note that not everything is large and premium. I actually
owned three Regal Robot things out of the Taunton Agent
came out at New York Comic Come a couple of
years ago. I have the detonator that the Mando carries
in my uh my droid head over there is being

(33:07):
controlled by a restraining bolt created.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
The Great Regal Robot studios. But yeah, so yeah, maybe
talk a little bit about where that detail comes from
and and and you know, I still kick myself.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
I was this close to pulling the trigger on the
field Tippet Tonton a couple of about a year and
a half ago, and then it sold out, and which
is just my lame excuse for not buying it.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
But yeah, yeah, the the things, you know, the runs
are small, and part of that is just out of necessity.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
It's a small shop.

Speaker 9 (33:42):
You know, there's only about ten artists working on these things,
and some of those artists are even you know, like
I said earlier, there's a there's the Thomas been a
design side of things. So you have artists that are
busy doing the restoration and conservation, and you have we
have production artists that are dedicated to the regal stuff.
But there's literally only so much we can do, so

(34:05):
we have to keep the runs fairly small. Obviously that
helps make things collectible, but I don't think that is
ever our primary goal or focus. Like, the scarcity is
not what is not like a watchwork, like, there's no
there's no intention to make things rare. There's an intention
to make things high quality there's an intention to make things.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Collectible and available.

Speaker 9 (34:31):
But yeah, if I know, Tom has often said that
if he can make sure everybody got one, you know,
he would be happy. But that's just not how unfortunately
it works sometimes. But sorry, was the original question.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Like sort of the I mean you were talking about
how when you were working on some of the maquette
stuff and you had you actually I mean bigle robot
and time speed of Designs gets access to the actual Fedora,
right the actually, so yeah was like that. I mean
we just talked a little bit at the start as
a fan like what let me let me ask you.

(35:07):
This is maybe sort of the last question then would
be what's the one piece that ended up in front
of you that major jaw hit the hit the desk
and go, oh, it's that.

Speaker 9 (35:20):
I wish I could narrow it down to one piece,
you know, like no, I'm I'm not even trying to
be funny, like it's it's never lost on me. I'm
always amazed whenever something new, you know, either comes in
or yeah, I I have been fortunate enough to go
to the archives and that is just how I did

(35:42):
not die there on the floor. I don't know, and
it's not lost on any like. Mom is still wide
out about this stuff as well. And I think I
remember what part of your original question was, which was
how how how does Regal achieve I don't remember or
how you phrase it exactly, how does Regal achieve such?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Maybe it was accuracy or quality.

Speaker 9 (36:04):
Because I remember, because I remember, my brain immediately went
to Tom, do you know? Because Tom is the guy
who sets the standard, and he's as obsessive about this stuff,
and I mean that in a healthy way. He is, unlike,
unlike me, obsessive about this stuff as anybody, and so

(36:28):
he makes sure that every detail is correct, and he
employs people to help him make sure every one of
the reasons I think that I've done and I do
what I do at Regal is because I am also obsessive,
do you know I am? I am the guy who

(36:48):
will say, you know, that hair on the wampa's mustache
needs to be a little earlier, or a little longer,
or have a little more snow in it, or a
little less, you know, blood on the lip, or whatever
it is.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Because we know these things. We've grown up with these things.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
I've had all the compendiums and the encyclopedias and the
art of books and everything I grew up with and
you know, pour it over my entire life and it's
just bananas to me now that what used to be
useless knowledge. You know, you sort of like when you're
when you're a geek about something, you sometimes excuse your uh,

(37:27):
you know, your your trivia with the preface of, well,
this is useless knowledge. It's amazing that a lot of
this stuff isn't useless anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Oh, and we talk about a lot on this show,
the books that we had as kids, like you said,
the blueprints books, the diagram books, you know. The Lucasfilm
Archives book is incredible and I read through that thing
all the time, same thing, just agape and I've read
it multiple times and go how incredible, Like I can't imagine.
Like to me, walking into the Lucasfilm Archives is like

(37:56):
the end of Writers when they walk into the warehouse
where they lock up and you're just like it's just
walls and shelves and everything, and then your face melts
like total yeah exactly, and your face melts off like
it's all it's well connected and that's that's what. Well,
so this is my this is I tell this story

(38:17):
every time. This is my nineteen eighty nine Pepsi Indiana
Jones and the last crusade Stets and Fedora a promo
where if you got like twelve UPCs off of twelve
packs of Pepsi Cola in nineteen eighty nine, mailed them
in with some money, they would send you the stets
in Indie hat.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I wanted one.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
My cool ant, who was the cool ant who taught
us everything, got it for me.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
She sent me one, and she bought herself one.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
She jokes all the time to this day, she's like,
I bought so much pepsi that summer just to buy
you this damn hat.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Well, I got it.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
I loved it, and then as I got a little
bit older, like a fool, I traded it to a
kid in my neighborhood for baseball cards. And to this
day she won't let me live it down. But several
years ago she sent one of my daughters hers because
at that point my daughter was obsessed with Indiana Jones.
So I have hers now and it will never go anywhere.
But it becomes that thing, just as you know, the

(39:14):
stuff that you guys create at the end of the day.
It's connected to nostalgia, it's connected to good feelings, it's
connected to something that makes us go, hey remember that time,
Hey remember that thing that makes us happy? Yeah, And
I think that's so special and I'm so thankful that
you guys do the work you do and provide the opportunity.
Like Pete said, it doesn't have to be the big,

(39:34):
high end, crazy expensive things. It can be the magnets
which are twenty and thirty dollars in the metal signs
like there's a way in for everybody, which I also
think is incredible that that's something that they do, that
you guys do.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
So we're really thankful.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
Not only we've had time on before and y'all have
been kind to donate to Potathon in the past, So
we love what you guys do. We love getting the
chance to talk to you a little bit. What we
are going to do now is we're going to take
a quick commercial break. We're going to transition for a minute.
It's time to talk about the news of the week,
and so when we come back, we're going to play
our news game, which is around the Galaxy as a

(40:09):
nod to our friends at the ESPN and around the horn,
so we will be back in just a minute with
more ATG Live.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Well, it's time to go around the Galaxy again, and
welcome to the segment where our producer Kelsey, clearly the
most powerful beings in the galaxy, selects this week's most
overhyped Star Wars news from our website and forces a
panel of more gallic life forms to talk you about
it loudly for points that she gives out however she wants.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
This makes no sense to me for at all.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
This week's special guests will also join the chaas, pretending
the therapy needs manner while Kelsey quietly calculates who lived,
who dies, and who gets muted, and at the end,
the so called winner get sixty seconds of I'm enjoying
the airtime because that's what the show needs. More talking,
So hold on the motivator and race very mute sings

(41:09):
around the galaxy?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Do I have to see?

Speaker 8 (41:13):
Really? ROGI?

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Well, welcome back to ATG Live. You're Thursday n at
Home for all things Star Wars. Like everything Star Wars like,
drinking games and cooking tips and news and trivia and
of course the around the Galaxy game with our lovely
inquisitor Kelsey Pucket, Kelsey, how's it going.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Doing all right? Uh? You guys holding down the fort
so far. Good job, proud of you making it through
your post vacation show.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
I'm doing it. I'm doing I know you are. But yeah,
so surprisingly and that's, you know, kind of one of
the other things there. Max, we're kind of getting to
it before, Like there's still Star Wars news like every
freaking week. Every week we're like, well, we're gonna have
a tough time finding stuff to talk about this week. Nope, No,
there's always stuff happening, and so uh that's why we

(42:11):
kind of put this game together like we have so uh.
Now I got to ask you, Mix, are you familiar
to all with the Around the Horn show from ESPN?

Speaker 8 (42:20):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Not personally, but I think I understand the premise.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
So simple that you don't even need to know how
to spell ESPN to make this work.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
So that's all right.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
I was kind of thinking the points also work, like
whose line is it? Anyway?

Speaker 6 (42:36):
It's very much like anyway where the points don't matter
and something else.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I forget what he always did.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
You are not Drue carry. I can see, well I'm
actually going to start with Max since our first news
story is about comic con. So George Lucas appeared in
his first ever San Diego Comic Con, and he offered
a look at the upcoming Lucas Museum in La What
from his panel got you most excited?

Speaker 9 (43:05):
I man, I love so much about this museum that's opening.
I think what got me most excited was probably just
the focus on elevating.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Narrative art sort of.

Speaker 9 (43:19):
I think someone maybe even used the word canonizing, which
I thought was interesting into quote unquote fine art, you know,
giving it the platform giving whether it's comic books or.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Sketches or.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
Or whatever it is, but just giving it the same
platform that you know, fine art has had all these
years of museums, and giving it the respect and giving
it the attention and the educational aspects that it deserves,
because it's a way in for kids to learn storytelling
and honestly for anybody to learn about storytelling. And I

(43:58):
think it's really really exciting, and I can't.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Week to go.

Speaker 8 (44:01):
Yes, what about you? Nick Roger?

Speaker 6 (44:04):
So every like Max said, everything about it is exciting,
Everything about it is something to look forward to. You know,
you read the list of like the props that they've
already said are going to be there, you know, the
land speeder in Grievous's bike or whatever.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I forget what it's called. You in revoke my fan card.
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
But I love the talk about connection to physical media,
connection to original Like there's a lot of stuff about
comic books, and he talks about comic books and the
collections and the things he has. Because this hits me
in that same vein as like the Smithsonian and I'm
met of that age, you know where like that hits

(44:43):
me in my feels like let me go see a
space shuttle, let me go see an X wing, let
me go see the fines this jacket, like, let me
see all these things that connect to parts of my life.
And so to have George Lucas creating this thing that's
not in an era and time where we're facing down AI,
where we're figuring out what is the role of AI
And that came up in that panel and you know

(45:05):
he talks about you know, there's a concrete thing here
and this is where stories are told, and this is
where what narrative is the fact that this is someone
who goes this is important enough to preserve that I'm
going to make the back half of my life and
career about preserving this and creating something that's going to
live on is phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I think is really significant.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
Pete, what do you think.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Well, you know, other than comic books, which, as you
all know, I don't read or pay too much attention,
you know, And I kid about that because I was
actually pretty I know, I was actually pretty excited, much
like Nink was saying about the things that he has
decided to put in this museum. But one of the
things when we were talking a little bit before about
why Star Wars still is where it is in our
hearts and minds, it's not so much creating other genre

(45:53):
stuff as Star Wars. To me, I think one of
the things is Star Wars has become its own genre
and if it's going to continue, and if we believe that,
which I think it doesn't take too much to make
that connection. If you believe that, then a museum to
show where that comes from, right and where that you know,
we all you know they was that they say, you know,

(46:15):
the best was the finest form of flattery is is imitation.
And yeah, I mean you can you can literally point
to things that George took to create some of the
Star Wars and create this culture, this cultural phenomenon, and
to be able to lead with that because when people

(46:39):
think George Lucas, they think Star Wars. But this will
allow us to think George Lucas and think pop culture curator.
And I think that that's a huge next step and
you know, frankly, a great way for him to spend
the back half of his life.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
Nice some fair points there. I actually was going to
ask Max one more thing from Comic connor quick that
I heard that you did a cosplay there.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
No, I not this year.

Speaker 9 (47:07):
Personally, I didn't make it to Comic Con, but I
have done I do occasionally cosplay, and if I was
at Comic Con this year, I probably would have so well.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
And that's and that's what I referenced at the top
of the show. And I'll just jump in here for
half a second. Max has a cob Van cosplay that
was recently revealed on his Instagram. And I love Timothy
Elephant in a way that's hard to describe between Deadwood,
Justified the Mandalorian like he's my guy, Like I'm right

(47:35):
at the top of the list, and Pete and I
have joked for a long time like if I'm doing
a cosplay, because I'm a bearded guy and I will
always be a bearded guy, I have two options, put
a helmet on or find a Star Wars character that
has a beard. Pete can do Rex, I can do
Obi Wan. But like cob Van opens up a little
bit of a territory where if you get a little
bit of a beard, some hair, you know, going back

(47:56):
and yours is fantastic And the pictures on max the
Instagram are legit so and there's other cosplay here as well.
But I did say that when I was checking out
your Instagram and thought, say, this is somebody who gets it.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (48:10):
The beard, the beard I've only had for about a
year now. Before I used to spend most of my
time cause playing variations on on solo. You know, I've
actually tried other people have tried, like podammer In. I
usually go for like the sort of smuggler scoundrel look.
But even when I'm podammoning, people think I'm onn solo,
so I kind of just.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
It.

Speaker 9 (48:31):
Yeah, But then I grew the beard and this costume
came up for sale and I couldn't resist.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
So it's really good.

Speaker 8 (48:39):
Yeah, thank you, all right, I'll have to check that
out after the show. I'll suit with you.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Max.

Speaker 8 (48:44):
So that Wesaft CEO blamed the state of the Star
Wars brand for Outlaws underperforming. Do you agree with them
and why it's tough?

Speaker 9 (48:54):
I I think there's enough lame, if you will, to
pass it around. I think I think the game maybe
came Look, let me let me preface everything here by
saying I actually really loved The Acolyte, but I know
that it had a lot of negative attention. It was

(49:17):
very divisive and and I think some people were suggesting
that maybe Outlaws coming out sort of in the wake
of that was not great timing for the franchise.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
But I also know.

Speaker 9 (49:28):
Because I played Outlaws pretty much immediately that game was buggy.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
The game was buggy, and.

Speaker 9 (49:37):
I that never helps and so and it also, you know,
it tried to do a lot.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
It was it's the first.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
Open world, I think is sort of what they were
saying about, is first open world Star Wars game, And
so there was a lot of things I feel like
that you kind of couldn't do, maybe that you would
normally want to do in an open World game, and
and I think maybe folks maybe might have been suggesting
that Star Wars or I don't see what. I guess

(50:08):
this would be more wulb Besoft was more sort of
relying on the brand recognition to sell the title as
opposed to really building out the game as robustly as
they could have. I don't know who's that fault, but
I agree that the game was a little lacking in
the areas, but I still enjoyed it.

Speaker 8 (50:25):
What do you think, Nick?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
So full disclosure, haven't played Outlaws.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
I have a PlayStation four, so like I haven't really
played the second Jedi Fallen Order game, Survivor. I'm a
leddye when it comes to video games. I play Fortnite
at night when my kids go to bed because it's
an easy way to check out and not have to.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Think about anything.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
But having kept up with the stories and of course,
you know, being a part of the Star Wars fandom
and what it.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Is that we do, I've paid attention to this and.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
I kind of feel like it's a thing, like there
may be something to it because of timing.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
We ran into that with when.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Solo came out after Rise of Skywalker, like there was
too much, too close together. That created some negative whatever
that caused people to you know, taint the way they
looked at things. We're not going to get into solo. Kelsey,
I saw you make that face. Go ahead, you can
file that away back in a drawer. That's for another time.
But at the end of the day, you're a company

(51:27):
that's making a game and you kind of need to
own what it is that you do. So my thing is,
don't shove it off on the brand. Like you had
the opportunity to make the game, you had the opportunity
to work on it. There were bugs. That's not Star
Wars fault. There were things that didn't launch and play well.
That's not Star Wars fault. Battlefront dealt with the same
thing when it came out early on. There were issues.
It's not Star Wars fault. That's a production thing. That's

(51:48):
a game company thing. So it feels a little I
don't know, it feels a little bit of a little shady.
I'm not buying it, but I'm also a Star Wars
you know, in the tank guy.

Speaker 8 (51:59):
So Pete, you have any thoughts on this?

Speaker 5 (52:02):
Yeah, I mean I tweeted and I'll take the most
obnoxious way of saying with both Nick and Max were
trying to say is if the game was good, we
wouldn't be having this conversation. And it's one of the
rare Star Wars games that I didn't finish. And I
also think it's part of the challenges. I don't know
that Star Wars lends itself to an Assassin's creed type

(52:25):
of game. I think, you know, when you think Star Wars,
you think blasting your way through allways and blowing stuff up.
And while that would later became an option, the game was,
you know, it had. It was a very challenging It
was a different way to play a Star Wars game.
And Max, you right, I played it like moments after

(52:45):
it came out, and it was it was absolutely buggy.
I think there were some issues with it. I think
blaming Star Wars is as a brand is kind of
a it's kind of a punk way out, but you know,
as politely as I can, but I think it's you know,
and I wish the game was better, I really do.
And what I did, I enjoyed a lot of it.
It looked great, there was a lot of really cool

(53:08):
opportunities to it. I love the lead character. I thought
she was great. I loved the droid companion. I love
the little fuzzy animal that wrote on your back. And
there was a lot to love, but not enough to
get attached to like I did to say Survivor or
Power the Force or no Force on least rather.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
Roger Cool, I'm going to stick with you on this
next one. So, Hayden Christiansen returns the Soca Show with
an expanded role for season two. What are you most
excited to see from his character?

Speaker 5 (53:43):
You know, I will take the I'll take the side
that I've taken before. And this may be an unpopular opinion,
but I'd rather see an Anakin ah Soka Kenobi show
then try to put it into again. We're saying this
before we see what it actually means and how it's

(54:03):
going to all work together. But man, I loved I
think my favorite part of Ahsoka was the Clone Wars
flashbacks and seeing what Ariana Greenblat as the young Ahsoka
was so great. I would love a series with the
three of them. You know, there were a million little
battles that went on. There was so many, I'm sure
we didn't see all of them in the Clone wars,

(54:24):
so to see the three of them perhaps on it,
but even give me a give me a two hour
movie of that. I'm excited that Anakin's coming back, but
I also kind of feel like, in a way, it's
sort of leaning into something a little safe. Everybody knows
that that was the most popular and the most talked
about piece from the show. They put that episode in

(54:46):
movie theaters, so it's I'm I can't wait to see it,
and of course I'm going to be there watching it
and I'm not gonna miss it, and I'm gonna love it,
But I would like to see, let's put that up
into something that is a little bit more focused on
him versus sort of a side story.

Speaker 8 (55:07):
What do you think, Max?

Speaker 9 (55:10):
Again, not knowing exactly what we're going to get, what
I'm hoping we're going to get are more flashbacks.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
I've heard the rumors about Ewan joining.

Speaker 9 (55:20):
The fun and if we get flashbacks with Anakin and
Obi Wan and Ahsoka during the Clone wars.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Man, I mean, I can't, I can't. I get chilled.

Speaker 9 (55:30):
I'm literally getting chills just thinking about how cool that's
going to be to see it in live action. Because
Hayden did something I don't know if it was unexpected,
but it was so effective. He clearly became familiar with
the character from the Clone Wars before he was on
Ahsoka because he brought all of that in addition to

(55:52):
what he had done in the prequels, and it was
it felt so much more complicated, or not complicated, but
complex and fuller.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I mean, I mean, I just want more of that.

Speaker 8 (56:02):
Yeah, Nick, you've got any thoughts on this one?

Speaker 6 (56:05):
I have two very specific thoughts. First of all, it
hadn't crossed my mind until Max said it. But if
Obi Wan shows up, the cosplay that I have said
for years that I want and want to do is
the General Kenobe cosplay where he's wearing the white armor.
Grow my hair out a little bit, a little bit
more beard that that's my move, that's my guy. So yes,
please give me live action General Kenobi in that you know,

(56:28):
in that armor. But what I have said, and I
love all of this, I want Anakin. I mean, I
want Hayden to have this expanded role. I want Anakin
to have more of a weight in it. We've seen
that because his two appearances at two different comic cons
have been canceled due to shooting. That's not a cameo thing.
That's a you know, he's got something significant. Here's what

(56:48):
I think it is. And I threw it to Pete
in the text message and it was clearly such a
terrible theory that he didn't even respond or comment on it.
Anakin becomes the father, a So becomes the daughter, and
Balen Skull becomes the Sun, and Anakin truly does get
to bring balance to the Force. And I think that's
what happens in Ahsoca season two because we don't know

(57:09):
Ahsoka's in. And then the other half of that is
it sets up the live action Rebels.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Showdown with Ron.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
But I think Anakin becomes the Father and he does
actually get to bring balance to the Force all these
years later, and I if that's the story we get.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
We will be eating. It will be incredible, it will
be amazing. Give them all the points.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
It's been boosting it.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yep, that's where it's at.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
That's what I want, that's what I'm excited to see
if it happens.

Speaker 8 (57:36):
All right, I'll stick with you, Nick for our last one. So,
despite slow progress since the project was announced, the Ray
movie is slated to start filming in twenty twenty six.
Are you excited about this news or other future projects
grabbing your attention a bit more?

Speaker 6 (57:52):
In the words of Chris Ryan's gimme I want this,
I want all of it. It's New Star Wars. I'm
not gonna be mad about it. Give me every New
Star Wars. I'll watch it. If I don't like it,
I won't watch it the second time. If I do
like it, it'll become my whole personality. It'll become a
whole obnoxious thing. I do love Daisy Ridley, I do
love Ray. I am excited to see what the journey

(58:15):
for this character is. I'm really hopeful that John Boye
is involved. I'm excited to see the connecting points to
you know, if Poe's involved, if it somehow ties into
some legacy characters somewhere along the way. But it doesn't
have to. And that's what I'm also excited about. This
is charting new course, New Jedi Order. Let's go because
as a kid who grew up with the EU, the

(58:37):
Luke Skywalker, New Jedi Order books and Kip Duran and
being tempted by x R Khan and all these other things,
like there's stories that can be told, and there's ways
for this to be something brought into a new audience
and a new universe in a part of the Disney
Star Wars era.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
This is nothing but wins in my opinion.

Speaker 8 (58:55):
Max, Do you have any thoughts on this one?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I am excited.

Speaker 9 (59:01):
I am cautiously optimistic. I also am curious about these
rumors that I've heard that Ray will also potentially show
up in other sequel movies that aren't necessarily focused solely
on Ray. And in fact, I hear a lot of
conflicting rumors that even this Ray movie doesn't necessarily have

(59:25):
her as like the main character, that there's probably a
new apprentice that leads the story, and that she's more
of the sort of stage wise Jedi master in this case,
which kind of makes sense, you know, like let's give
her that role. I mean, I don't want to get
into sort of controversial topics here, but like I know

(59:49):
a lot of folks I love the sequels, I love
the Last Jedi. I know a lot of folks wanted
to see Luke Moore in his prime. Unfortunately that wasn't
up to anybody, but father Time. They just kind of
came to those a little too late, so true. But
now they've a chance to do that with Ray you know,
they have a chance to show her being a Jedi master,
building the order, give us the sorts of stories that
I think people wanted with Luke, and I think that's

(01:00:11):
pretty exciting.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
Pete, you want to take us home?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
I mean, like Max said, cautiously optimistic, we've heard this
song before. It's we keep hearing it. I'm I don't
know where this one came from. Uh Daniel Richman, who
tends to be fairly accurate, but I don't know. I'm yes,
am I excited about it. I'm always excited about it,

(01:00:37):
and I really hope they they do right by Finn.
I hope they do a whole you know. I hope
they bring it together properly. I'm excited that what Max
was talking about with the possibility that that Daisy could be,
you know, in multiple stories, because I mean, I think
one of the things I'm so excited about is, you know,

(01:01:00):
Ford and Mark Hamill spent twenty five years distancing themselves
from the most famous character they were ever going to be.
Well maybe not Harrison, who also did a lot of
other things, but still he is Han solo and Indiana Jones.
Mark Hamill, you know, went on to do great voice work,
but a lot of people didn't even realize that Daisy Ridley,

(01:01:22):
if she's smart, and I know she's very wise, should
embrace the Ray character and do everything she can with it,
because that's where people know her. And there's nothing wrong
with being known as a Star Wars hero as your legacy.
I mean, look at Mark Hamill and look at Harrison
Ford and Billy d Williams and Carrie Fisher. It's, as

(01:01:44):
we said before, it's part of culture and it's not
a bad thing to be a part of. So let's
put her in all the stuff. And I'll wait until
we get to until we get the preview before I
get too excited about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Though.

Speaker 9 (01:01:58):
All right, well I can I quickly jump on something
that Pete said, which I think is really important because
when you know, at post original trilogy with Mark and
Harrison and carrying everybody, you know, the culture and pop
culture was totally different. You know, like Star Wars was
not seen as serious movies. The franchises and the popcorn movies.

(01:02:20):
We're seen as that popcorn movies, and we're seeing it's
sort of like Lucas's comments about raising comic book art
to fine art.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
It's the same. I don't you know.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
Today so much of entertainment is franchise and IP. There's
very little, I think, or not as much looking down
on those sorts of movies where actors feel like they
have to distance themselves or do more furious stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
You have.

Speaker 9 (01:02:47):
You have the most one of the most well known
like actors today, Pedro Pascal, who is just franchise after
franchise after franchise, and he's considered, you know, untouchable. So
like I agree with you. I think Daisy should and
hopefully will embrace her her destiny.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
Well, And if anybody wants just a little delightful dessert
teaser when you get done tonight, go find the video
clips of the Vanity Fair article that Harrison Ford just did,
the interviews where they talk to him about all the
different There's a fifteen minute clip. Kelsey sent it to me,
but I read the article online as well. And when
he talks about these different roles, and like he talks

(01:03:26):
about Star Wars, he's very earnest and genuine when he says,
I loved every bit of it, you know, And there's
been stuff over the years where he was grouchy and
he didn't want to and kill me off, but like
he recognizes it. And to watch him walk through the
different stages of a career and talk about what he's
done is another reminder why he is probably my favorite
actor of all time. Like he is truly just he's

(01:03:49):
a gift to our modern era of acting in heroes
and people who are out there doing something, and he's
not pretentious and he goes, yeah, like I went to
college and I thought I can do this, but I
didn't read the second half of the syllabus that said
I had to actually be into play.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
And you know, he's.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
Like it said read and talk about it. He's like,
I can read and talk about it. I didn't mean
to have to do it. It Just he's the guy
that you look at it and go damn. I'd like
to hang out with him and drink bourbon like he's
that real, But don't fly with him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Especially especially not after drinking bourbon. Yeah, they're probably not together.

Speaker 8 (01:04:25):
All right. Well, I was going to give Pete the wind,
but Max, you have the floor. You stole it at
the end there, So whoa ye. Sessions you can promo
whatever you want.

Speaker 9 (01:04:39):
Oh okay, wow, do you know I'll leave you guys
with this thought and maybe maybe you'll have me back
on to talk about it one day. I, like everybody
else on this planet, apparently loved end Or season two.
I thought it was amazing Star Wars. I thought Gilroy

(01:05:01):
brought it to the screen in a way that only literally,
only Tony Gilroy could. What I keep thinking about, though,
is how and Or differs from typical Star Wars in
a very interesting way. George Lucas always talked about Star

(01:05:23):
Wars as space fantasy, mythic operatic space opera, big themes, destiny,
the Force, and and Or doesn't really do that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
And Or really looks at societal and.

Speaker 9 (01:05:42):
Political changes and things that happen when we're not paying attention.
It's a thriller, it's an allegory. It's science fiction, not
science fantasy, which is probably the first time Star Wars
has been science fiction. And I think it's also one

(01:06:08):
of the reasons why we might never see anything like
and Or again, unless lucasfilm really sort of decides to
make more attempts to break away from the mythic science
fantasy aspects.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Of Star Wars.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
Yeah, well, you know that's that was perfect. I love
hearing you talk about that. We did a seven part
series called Road to Rebellion where we broke The first
four episodes were based on the four arcs, and then
we had some conversation. I'll tell you what we can
get on the chat after this. I would love to
do part eight and talk about exactly because that's one

(01:06:46):
of the things that we didn't get into in that series,
So that would be I would welcome that conversation for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
That would be great because I think you're right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
I think that's I think it was a called a
one off, but it was too serious, but so too
two seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
But I think you're right. I think that we may
never get that sort of thing again. That would totally
be it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
And I had to throw the hat on right at
the last minute format because Max get in so gets
into one of my favorite territories. We may not ever
see anything like and Or again, but I've asked for
a long time for a Star Wars West Wing, and
the and Or is Star Wars West Wing, and so
I have to put on my hat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
It's a drinking game on the show. So Matt, this.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
One's for you, buddy, poured up a shot for Star
Wars West Wing.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Well perfect, Well this Max, this has been great. I'm
glad I got to talk to you for more than
just a couple of minutes this week, although I do
kind of still wish I was on the beaches of
the Outer Banks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
But this was a ton of fun. Where can people
find you online and keep up with some of the
stuff that you're doing? Sure?

Speaker 9 (01:07:52):
I mean, my everyday Instagram is at Last Max Standing,
and my sort of hobby Instagram, which is custom action
figures and props uh is at Last Max Studios. And

(01:08:12):
you can find some old cosplay pictures at Karellian Cosplay,
but I barely post on there anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
That's awesome, very cool, Nick, do we what we Kelsie?
We haven't heard back yet from our potential guests for
next week, I'm guessing.

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
Also, I haven't checked my emails, but we have come on,
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
Yes, we have a potentially wild guest situation in the
works for next week.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Not like I'm not like wild famous, but wild, weird
and just fun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
That's what we do.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
And if you're following Instagram reels, you may have seen
this guy, so yeah, So hopefully he'll be joining us
next week, certainly sometime soon. So that that's what we
have going on. We are still trying to get the
show up in the podcast feed. We didn't do it
the last couple of weeks, but we will be putting
this one up in the podcast feed on Tuesday. And again,
if you're listening on the podcast feed, thank you so much.

(01:09:13):
Leave us a voicemail five O four three two one
fifteen oh one. We'll play you on the show again
whatever you have to say if we want to hear it.
And Max, thanks again for joining us. We will hit
you up for that Road to Rebellion episode. I think
that would be a ton of fun. And it's funny.
We still can't stop talking about and Or, and that's
I think, probably more than any Star Wars Disney era show.

(01:09:34):
This one is still still top of mind for so
many people, so there's a lot to talk about. Kelsey,
good luck to your lines tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Did they win? I mean it's pre s. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
I came up here mid game, so it's preseason.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
We're good.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. Yeah, just getting get
the starters off before it's too late. And I guess
that's going to do it for us this week, Nick.
As we say every single week, may the Force be
with you always.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Just one more round friend sent a homeward bound friend,
don't forget me in your dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Just one more song friend.

Speaker 8 (01:10:16):
And that's a long friend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
The nights get shorter. It seems just one more rime friend.
Yes it's a crime.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Friend, but you know time friend, time can fly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
So it's good night friend, good night, but none goode.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
What do you me

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