December 19, 2025 • 16 mins
ColorScapes, explores how seasonal color and light affect our emotions, learning, and overall well-being. From spring’s hopeful pastels to winter’s introspective tones, Lee offers an accessible, science-meets-art perspective on how color perception influences mood, focus, and creativity. It’s a perfect conversation for audiences eager to understand the educational and emotional power of art in everyday life.
With over four decades of experience connecting audiences to art and culture through her work at the Smithsonian Institution, Library of Congress, and collaborations with DreamWorks, Showtime, and Columbia Pictures, Lee now turns her talents to teaching through poetry. Her multi-cultural upbringing in France and India—coupled with her lifelong dedication to education and the arts—makes her an engaging voice for discussions about creative literacy, emotional intelligence, and cross-cultural learning.
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With over four decades of experience connecting audiences to art and culture through her work at the Smithsonian Institution, Library of Congress, and collaborations with DreamWorks, Showtime, and Columbia Pictures, Lee now turns her talents to teaching through poetry. Her multi-cultural upbringing in France and India—coupled with her lifelong dedication to education and the arts—makes her an engaging voice for discussions about creative literacy, emotional intelligence, and cross-cultural learning.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-like-it-s-live--4113802/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Maybe it's just a radio thing. Variety, give people a variety,
and that's what we do on aero dot net a
r r oe dot net. It's not just a podcast
with rock stars and movie stars. Oh, it's about lifestyle
and beyond. It's variety a r r oe dot Net.
Enjoy the exploration, hier.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh this is Lee Woodman.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Lee Woodman, I am so fired up to share a
conversation with you because you're speaking my street on two
different levels, and that is a working with artwork and
colors as well as poetry. So it's like, I cannot
wait to kind of dig into your imagination in the
way of getting people inspired to explore their own journeys.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's do what is right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Okay, how did you jump into this?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
First of all?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I mean, come on, now, you're you're combining two completely
different mediums of communication.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I know. Well, just to start with, I've been a
writer all my career and was first in poet and
I mean in first in radio and television, and then
when I finally retired from the Smithsonian, I thought, well,
(01:10):
I want to go back to my first passions in life,
and that was art, dance, language, theater and music, and
so it seems odd to say, but I think poetry
brings all of those arts together.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, you're absolutely right about that because I look at
that as being that one connection and then for you
to explore, like you know, into radio and television as
well as a Smithsonian. Isn't that just taking your artwork
to just a different platform where you could put it
on display, but just in a different language.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think so, And that's a great way to put it.
And Color Skates is actually the sixth in a series
of scapes collections, scapes being kind of an umbrella of
inner and outer landscapes either literal, emotional, cultural, and each
book is on a specific topic.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, what home?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
What is womanhood? What? You know? How does art inspire poetry?
And now Color?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, and the goal would be how do we get
people to understand those different levels that you're trying to share,
because I mean, we live in this AI you know,
chat GPT kind of society where everything is you know,
delivered through our smartphone. It's like, no, get your eyes
off the smartphone and plant it in.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
A book exactly. Well, yeah, you make me want to
say two things. Why poetry? Well, poetry reading and listening
slows us down, it makes us think. It actually encourages
problem solving and you know, offers new perspectives and a
(02:45):
moment where we can actually have a conversation that's about ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
How did that affect your writing though, as you know,
being in journalism, because I mean one of the things,
because I'm very much into poetry. But the problem is
is that I put too much poetic speak into what
I'm doing. And you always get that shrug shoulder approach
as well as I don't know what you're talking about.
You rewrite it, do it again, do it. You've got
to make it even simpler than what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Huh. Well, what I say about color is that from
the time where children, color holds deep joy and fascination,
and as adults we revel in nature and the effects
colors have on our mind and senses and actually for ages.
Architects and designers have considered the way colors affect the
(03:31):
way people enter spaces, the way they choose clothes, cars,
home decors. So it really can be very accessible if
you write to the specific, you know, really get to
the specific. And I read a lot of books on color,
and even though I had been an art major in
(03:54):
college and graduate school. I realized how much more there
was to know about the sources. Where where do colors
come from? Rock shells, mud, chemicals, and now uh technology,
And so I went about learning about the sources and
(04:14):
then read about the psychology of color. And it's true. Designers, doctors, architects,
they're all thinking about how color affects their clients. And
so you know, a hospital waiting room will be painted
in a certain color and so forth. And then different cultures,
(04:36):
you know, they see colors in very very different ways
and assigned symbolism in very very different ways. For instance,
we see black as a color of mourning. In India,
it's white. You know, people who are going to bury
their dead dress in white. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
One of the things that I love about Color Scapes
is the fact that this has got to be one
of the first time since Julia Cameron's The Vein of Gold,
where she was the one that introduced me to the
different colors and what they mean and how you can
utilize them as tools. And then when you get your
hands on this book, you're going, Okay, why did it
take me so long to find something like this? Because
now it's like you learn about what the colors are
about now activated in your life, and that's what to me,
(05:23):
that's what I feel in doing color scapes.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Wow. Wow, Well, you know there are different families of colors,
and people think of red, blue, yellow, green, but there
are families of green, and families of blue and families
of red. I can actually read a poem called contradictory Red. Yeah, Okay,
here we go. Rocks were crushed, insects were blood, minerals
(05:53):
and emulsifiers, adding scarlet, crimson, cherry matter. Human for decades
rushed to find red. Artists keep reaching for red. They
made personal push boundaries with gum oil and chemicals da
Vinci and rubens, stained and emblazoned. Rothko said red was
(06:18):
fire and blood. Red in the deep Earth, comets and
stars clay for geologists, red planet for marsh Astrologists explore
universes widespread beyond black holes where blue stars appear. Red.
(06:39):
Red suggests ardent love, impassioned anger, stop signs. In drama,
martyrdom power symbol of fury, raging through psychees, lust and passion,
fraught with danger. Red can seduce or portend good fortune.
(07:03):
In China, people link crimson to luck and prosperity. Really,
but red horns of the devil can throw a strong hack.
Red light districts offer prostitutes and sex so hues of hematite, pomegranate, vermilion.
(07:25):
Charlemagne wore red leather shoes at his coronation. Russia's flag
turned red for the Bolshevik revolution, Dragon's blood, burgundy finned
with a lizarine and finally a red badge of courage
(07:45):
to raise a red flag, to roll a red carpet,
or paint the town red, all tied up in red tape.
These stunning illusions only come to on tradictory conclusions.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
M You see what I mean by how it opens
up your eyes as to what that because I mean,
how many people actually see the color red as just being.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like you said, power, that's it power.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
But yet you just gave me just an umpteen million
amount of different definitions on what to look forward to
and to keep my eyes open when I go strolling
on a greenway or just go walking through an uptown area.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's so true, you know, And I do think errow
that poetry, and I'm sure you felt this. It's all
about observation, paying close attention. I carry a little notebook
around me with me and just take notes. You know,
what what is that bird doing upside down? Or you
(08:45):
know why is the snow really gray more than white?
And you know, sometimes just listening to what people say
in a gallery or a museum. I have a poem
that I wrote in another book when some and said, well,
that's not really a sculpture.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh cool, please do not move. There's more with Lee
Woodman coming up next. The name of the book Colorscapes
with author Lee Woodman, the journey to combine the two
different forms of mediums. Because I during back in the
nineteen nineties into the New millennium, one of the things
that I did was I combined my poetry with artwork,
(09:25):
and then but I was using the artwork to get
people to my poetry. And then I displayed it at
Barnes and Noble, and then we sold the paintings for
nonprofit organizations. So how did you bring them together and
how did you know that it was a workable art.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I do a lot of poetry called echrasticks, which
is just what you're saying, you go, it's a really
hard word ex frastick. But it's a really really simple
concept staring at artwork and then being inspired to write
(10:00):
at a palm. And there are quite a few ecrastics
in the last part of Color Scapes, where I actually
pick certain paintings going way way, way way back to
Caravaggio in the sixteenth century, to way way way way
forward to photographers now and sculptures now, and then again
(10:24):
it's observation detail the way painters have used color, you know,
some just searching for the perfect yellow or the perfect blue,
and the Impressionists searching for the perfect purple to use
as shadowing rather than black.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
One of the quotes that you have in this book
that blows me away, and I would love to have
this on a T shirt or something. And it is
the psychology of seeing color and how it affects perception,
because how many times that we rely so much on
that perception but we don't have the full story.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, that's right, that's right. You know, we here but
we don't listen, We talk, but we don't speak. And
you know, there's a lot of things that we have,
all five of our senses, that really can go so
so so much deeper. Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So now are our museums and schools reaching out to
you to to bridge this gap, because I mean, you
speak openly about how how art in schools continuously is
being challenged, and yet and yet at the same time,
what I'm feeling from this is that why not in
a museum. I mean, I just came from a huge
library in uptown Charlotte, and it's like, why why is
your art not in here? Because of these little imaginations
(11:43):
have got to be turned on by colors as well
as writing as well, and why not get them at
such an early age or as in the in the
Silver years as well?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, well, ero, you know it's so interesting. Museums and
galleries are starting to have poetry workshops, and actually some
like the Guggenheim and MoMA have poets and residents and
they work with the curators. They decide really what they
(12:11):
want to share with children and adults looking at art
almost like detectives, you know, see if you can find
such and such and really look for a face in
the crowd, or really look for a different kind of
green than you usually think of as grass. And so
(12:35):
they're doing wonderful, wonderful work they're reading, they're writing booklets,
they're doing practice sessions for kids. And one of the
very short poems that I have that I think has
a good sense of humor is about how kids see colored. Yeah,
should I read it?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Please?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Because I mean how they see it and how I
see it. I wish I could go back to being
that kid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I know, okay, the way kids see it. My favorite
color is ange, explains Joseph at his preschool easel. And
mine is lollow because it makes me sunny, responds Emily Poppy,
sporting pink ribbons, boasts I have three barbies. Mollie in
(13:22):
black T shirt with skulls, replies, you are an asto.
Matthew announces that he likes baalu and pours it all
over the floor. Miss Angela and her turquoise apron covered
with fingerprints, smiles and cheers on students who choose purple green,
(13:46):
even dork gray.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Uh see, that's the kind of stuff that makes you giggle.
Doesn't matter what age you're at. I mean, if you're
even if you were to read that to a young child,
they'd sit there and giggle just by the inflection that
you're using. And maybe that's what's missing from poetry, and
a lot of people don't go near it because we
don't know how to read it. We don't know where
to put the inflection and the volume and everything into
it because to hear you do it and versus what
(14:11):
I read, all of a sudden, we're back to that
perception thing again.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Thank you, yeah, thank you. Well, you know, people are
very moved, especially during change of seasons, and I find
when I'm reading about that people, you know, it resonates
for people and they're sort of writing their own feelings
about seasonal change right along with me.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Wow, I could spend all day having a conversation with you.
First of all, one of the things that my wife asked,
because she's a she's a former school teacher, is that
what is the age group? And then, of course from
and when we identify the age group. Now, I want
to ask one from my side of the poetry side,
and that is is that when you sit down with
students of poetry to help open their imaginations in their
(14:57):
writing style, do they all think they're stars right now?
Like YouTube people and TikTok people, they all think they're stars,
And that's not It is a honed art. What are
you facing?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, you said it so well. I think you know.
I taught art before I went into radio and television,
and I thought that third grader's eight year olds were
really ripe for poetry and art. They hadn't learned yet
or been told that they can't draw, or they can't paint,
(15:30):
or they can't write. And I used to invite poets
to come into my goss that's awesome and we'd work together.
So tell your wife that I.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Do like that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh my god, please come back to this show anytime
in the future. Like I said, fifteen minutes with you
is not enough. I mean we're just barely So where
can people go to find out more about you? Because
if you're going to be an educator, if you're going
to be a communicator and be the journalist that you
still are, I mean you've got to have an outreach
here where people and tap into it.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh yes, well it's very easy. Poet Leewoodman dot com.
That's my website, poet Leewoodman dot com And it has
all my books on it. It has all the places
you can buy them, and then I have recordings. There's
(16:23):
there's video on the website. There's audio on the website
and people can just you know, test it out and
see see what they like.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So you do understand the power of inflection, then don't
you pitch volume in tone. If you've got that up there,
then that means you you understand I do.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You You'll be brilliant today, okay, Lee? And please we
need to we need to get you back on here
as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I would love that. Thank you. Ero.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
You'd be brilliant today, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
YouTube
Maybe it's just a radio thing. Variety, give people a variety,
and that's what we do on aero dot net a
r r oe dot net. It's not just a podcast
with rock stars and movie stars. Oh, it's about lifestyle
and beyond. It's variety a r r oe dot Net.
Enjoy the exploration, hier.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh this is Lee Woodman.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Lee Woodman, I am so fired up to share a
conversation with you because you're speaking my street on two
different levels, and that is a working with artwork and
colors as well as poetry. So it's like, I cannot
wait to kind of dig into your imagination in the
way of getting people inspired to explore their own journeys.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's do what is right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Okay, how did you jump into this?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
First of all?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I mean, come on, now, you're you're combining two completely
different mediums of communication.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I know. Well, just to start with, I've been a
writer all my career and was first in poet and
I mean in first in radio and television, and then
when I finally retired from the Smithsonian, I thought, well,
(01:10):
I want to go back to my first passions in life,
and that was art, dance, language, theater and music, and
so it seems odd to say, but I think poetry
brings all of those arts together.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, you're absolutely right about that because I look at
that as being that one connection and then for you
to explore, like you know, into radio and television as
well as a Smithsonian. Isn't that just taking your artwork
to just a different platform where you could put it
on display, but just in a different language.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think so, And that's a great way to put it.
And Color Skates is actually the sixth in a series
of scapes collections, scapes being kind of an umbrella of
inner and outer landscapes either literal, emotional, cultural, and each
book is on a specific topic.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, what home?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
What is womanhood? What? You know? How does art inspire poetry?
And now Color?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, and the goal would be how do we get
people to understand those different levels that you're trying to share,
because I mean, we live in this AI you know,
chat GPT kind of society where everything is you know,
delivered through our smartphone. It's like, no, get your eyes
off the smartphone and plant it in.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
A book exactly. Well, yeah, you make me want to
say two things. Why poetry? Well, poetry reading and listening
slows us down, it makes us think. It actually encourages
problem solving and you know, offers new perspectives and a
(02:45):
moment where we can actually have a conversation that's about ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
How did that affect your writing though, as you know,
being in journalism, because I mean one of the things,
because I'm very much into poetry. But the problem is
is that I put too much poetic speak into what
I'm doing. And you always get that shrug shoulder approach
as well as I don't know what you're talking about.
You rewrite it, do it again, do it. You've got
to make it even simpler than what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Huh. Well, what I say about color is that from
the time where children, color holds deep joy and fascination,
and as adults we revel in nature and the effects
colors have on our mind and senses and actually for ages.
Architects and designers have considered the way colors affect the
(03:31):
way people enter spaces, the way they choose clothes, cars,
home decors. So it really can be very accessible if
you write to the specific, you know, really get to
the specific. And I read a lot of books on color,
and even though I had been an art major in
(03:54):
college and graduate school. I realized how much more there
was to know about the sources. Where where do colors
come from? Rock shells, mud, chemicals, and now uh technology,
And so I went about learning about the sources and
(04:14):
then read about the psychology of color. And it's true. Designers, doctors, architects,
they're all thinking about how color affects their clients. And
so you know, a hospital waiting room will be painted
in a certain color and so forth. And then different cultures,
(04:36):
you know, they see colors in very very different ways
and assigned symbolism in very very different ways. For instance,
we see black as a color of mourning. In India,
it's white. You know, people who are going to bury
their dead dress in white. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
One of the things that I love about Color Scapes
is the fact that this has got to be one
of the first time since Julia Cameron's The Vein of Gold,
where she was the one that introduced me to the
different colors and what they mean and how you can
utilize them as tools. And then when you get your
hands on this book, you're going, Okay, why did it
take me so long to find something like this? Because
now it's like you learn about what the colors are
about now activated in your life, and that's what to me,
(05:23):
that's what I feel in doing color scapes.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Wow. Wow, Well, you know there are different families of colors,
and people think of red, blue, yellow, green, but there
are families of green, and families of blue and families
of red. I can actually read a poem called contradictory Red. Yeah, Okay,
here we go. Rocks were crushed, insects were blood, minerals
(05:53):
and emulsifiers, adding scarlet, crimson, cherry matter. Human for decades
rushed to find red. Artists keep reaching for red. They
made personal push boundaries with gum oil and chemicals da
Vinci and rubens, stained and emblazoned. Rothko said red was
(06:18):
fire and blood. Red in the deep Earth, comets and
stars clay for geologists, red planet for marsh Astrologists explore
universes widespread beyond black holes where blue stars appear. Red.
(06:39):
Red suggests ardent love, impassioned anger, stop signs. In drama,
martyrdom power symbol of fury, raging through psychees, lust and passion,
fraught with danger. Red can seduce or portend good fortune.
(07:03):
In China, people link crimson to luck and prosperity. Really,
but red horns of the devil can throw a strong hack.
Red light districts offer prostitutes and sex so hues of hematite, pomegranate, vermilion.
(07:25):
Charlemagne wore red leather shoes at his coronation. Russia's flag
turned red for the Bolshevik revolution, Dragon's blood, burgundy finned
with a lizarine and finally a red badge of courage
(07:45):
to raise a red flag, to roll a red carpet,
or paint the town red, all tied up in red tape.
These stunning illusions only come to on tradictory conclusions.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
M You see what I mean by how it opens
up your eyes as to what that because I mean,
how many people actually see the color red as just being.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like you said, power, that's it power.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
But yet you just gave me just an umpteen million
amount of different definitions on what to look forward to
and to keep my eyes open when I go strolling
on a greenway or just go walking through an uptown area.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's so true, you know, And I do think errow
that poetry, and I'm sure you felt this. It's all
about observation, paying close attention. I carry a little notebook
around me with me and just take notes. You know,
what what is that bird doing upside down? Or you
(08:45):
know why is the snow really gray more than white?
And you know, sometimes just listening to what people say
in a gallery or a museum. I have a poem
that I wrote in another book when some and said, well,
that's not really a sculpture.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh cool, please do not move. There's more with Lee
Woodman coming up next. The name of the book Colorscapes
with author Lee Woodman, the journey to combine the two
different forms of mediums. Because I during back in the
nineteen nineties into the New millennium, one of the things
that I did was I combined my poetry with artwork,
(09:25):
and then but I was using the artwork to get
people to my poetry. And then I displayed it at
Barnes and Noble, and then we sold the paintings for
nonprofit organizations. So how did you bring them together and
how did you know that it was a workable art.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I do a lot of poetry called echrasticks, which
is just what you're saying, you go, it's a really
hard word ex frastick. But it's a really really simple
concept staring at artwork and then being inspired to write
(10:00):
at a palm. And there are quite a few ecrastics
in the last part of Color Scapes, where I actually
pick certain paintings going way way, way way back to
Caravaggio in the sixteenth century, to way way way way
forward to photographers now and sculptures now, and then again
(10:24):
it's observation detail the way painters have used color, you know,
some just searching for the perfect yellow or the perfect blue,
and the Impressionists searching for the perfect purple to use
as shadowing rather than black.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
One of the quotes that you have in this book
that blows me away, and I would love to have
this on a T shirt or something. And it is
the psychology of seeing color and how it affects perception,
because how many times that we rely so much on
that perception but we don't have the full story.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, that's right, that's right. You know, we here but
we don't listen, We talk, but we don't speak. And
you know, there's a lot of things that we have,
all five of our senses, that really can go so
so so much deeper. Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So now are our museums and schools reaching out to
you to to bridge this gap, because I mean, you
speak openly about how how art in schools continuously is
being challenged, and yet and yet at the same time,
what I'm feeling from this is that why not in
a museum. I mean, I just came from a huge
library in uptown Charlotte, and it's like, why why is
your art not in here? Because of these little imaginations
(11:43):
have got to be turned on by colors as well
as writing as well, and why not get them at
such an early age or as in the in the
Silver years as well?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, well, ero, you know it's so interesting. Museums and
galleries are starting to have poetry workshops, and actually some
like the Guggenheim and MoMA have poets and residents and
they work with the curators. They decide really what they
(12:11):
want to share with children and adults looking at art
almost like detectives, you know, see if you can find
such and such and really look for a face in
the crowd, or really look for a different kind of
green than you usually think of as grass. And so
(12:35):
they're doing wonderful, wonderful work they're reading, they're writing booklets,
they're doing practice sessions for kids. And one of the
very short poems that I have that I think has
a good sense of humor is about how kids see colored. Yeah,
should I read it?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Please?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Because I mean how they see it and how I
see it. I wish I could go back to being
that kid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I know, okay, the way kids see it. My favorite
color is ange, explains Joseph at his preschool easel. And
mine is lollow because it makes me sunny, responds Emily Poppy,
sporting pink ribbons, boasts I have three barbies. Mollie in
(13:22):
black T shirt with skulls, replies, you are an asto.
Matthew announces that he likes baalu and pours it all
over the floor. Miss Angela and her turquoise apron covered
with fingerprints, smiles and cheers on students who choose purple green,
(13:46):
even dork gray.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Uh see, that's the kind of stuff that makes you giggle.
Doesn't matter what age you're at. I mean, if you're
even if you were to read that to a young child,
they'd sit there and giggle just by the inflection that
you're using. And maybe that's what's missing from poetry, and
a lot of people don't go near it because we
don't know how to read it. We don't know where
to put the inflection and the volume and everything into
it because to hear you do it and versus what
(14:11):
I read, all of a sudden, we're back to that
perception thing again.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Thank you, yeah, thank you. Well, you know, people are
very moved, especially during change of seasons, and I find
when I'm reading about that people, you know, it resonates
for people and they're sort of writing their own feelings
about seasonal change right along with me.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Wow, I could spend all day having a conversation with you.
First of all, one of the things that my wife asked,
because she's a she's a former school teacher, is that
what is the age group? And then, of course from
and when we identify the age group. Now, I want
to ask one from my side of the poetry side,
and that is is that when you sit down with
students of poetry to help open their imaginations in their
(14:57):
writing style, do they all think they're stars right now?
Like YouTube people and TikTok people, they all think they're stars,
And that's not It is a honed art. What are
you facing?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, you said it so well. I think you know.
I taught art before I went into radio and television,
and I thought that third grader's eight year olds were
really ripe for poetry and art. They hadn't learned yet
or been told that they can't draw, or they can't paint,
(15:30):
or they can't write. And I used to invite poets
to come into my goss that's awesome and we'd work together.
So tell your wife that I.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Do like that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh my god, please come back to this show anytime
in the future. Like I said, fifteen minutes with you
is not enough. I mean we're just barely So where
can people go to find out more about you? Because
if you're going to be an educator, if you're going
to be a communicator and be the journalist that you
still are, I mean you've got to have an outreach
here where people and tap into it.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh yes, well it's very easy. Poet Leewoodman dot com.
That's my website, poet Leewoodman dot com And it has
all my books on it. It has all the places
you can buy them, and then I have recordings. There's
(16:23):
there's video on the website. There's audio on the website
and people can just you know, test it out and
see see what they like.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So you do understand the power of inflection, then don't
you pitch volume in tone. If you've got that up there,
then that means you you understand I do.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You You'll be brilliant today, okay, Lee? And please we
need to we need to get you back on here
as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I would love that. Thank you. Ero.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
You'd be brilliant today, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
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